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There's a visual bug when using the fusion fix. Rain seems to appear inside interiors too. Can you please check?
@@meowxgamingstuff This is actually caused by a trainer I was using. Hopefully it gets fixed in the future, but the trainer basically breaks the restored rain effects and causes them to appear inside as well.
@@TJGM But bro I am not using any trainer, still the rain appearing inside interiors. I hope it gets a fix soon.
@@meowxgamingstuff This rain bug is caused by Liberty's Legacy and/or ScriptHook
Lol this may be a weird suggestion, but you can do a similar video for Driv3r since the PC port of the game was similar to GTA 4's PC release. Many graphical bugs and errors that were not on the consoles. I made a mod which fixes and recovers most console stuff for the PC version of Driv3r. The mod is called Driv3r Definitive Edition.
It's sad how a billion dollar company just don't want to do this itself, but the modder guy in his house can. A weird world we live jn😊
why would they waste their time actually doing something instead of dropping the 3859202th dlc of gta online
The worst part is in a similar case in the 3d GTAs they attacked and forced them to take down the mods and then releases an even buggier version. One can only hope they never decide to rerelease GTA 4.
One does for joy, one does for money.
They'll only do it if it can make them $$$
@@justchill5628 It's not entitlement when you're rightfully complaining about something that SHOULD be there in the 1st place. Rockstar's PC port of GTA 4 sucks ass and they can't be bothered to fix a game that's 15 years old now but will gladly sell you new ports of old games for outdated consoles.
the rain looks surprisingly great with this. great video, hope to see more on modding to fix games or make more vanilla+ improvements.
Rains also appears inside interiors when using this mod. : (
@@meowxgamingstuff ah that's unfortunate, hope that gets fixed
@@atul1991ful yeah
@@meowxgamingstuff Do you have scripthook installed? It breaks rain occlusion and splash particles for some reason, it has nothing to do with the shaders.
@@Parallellines0451 Yes, I have scripthook installed. Is not it mandatory to have for mods to load?
Crazy how modders are more capable of fixing games than a billion dollar company
because these people are doing it out of passion & love, by the community for the community. not for money
rockstar should just open source their old games if they dont wanna fix it!
Because the modders have more passion for what they do than present-day Rockstar.
@@pedinhu18I mean gta 6 is taking super long to release so that tells me rockstar is either working it to perfection or just pushing back the release date to stall
It's not because the companies can't. They just don't care
Most of the performance issues have been mitigated using DXVK iirc.
Oh really? I'll have to check it out, thanks for the heads up!
@@TJGM RandomGamingInHD has a video about it.
It depends. I've tried so many versions of it but I always get worse FPS with DXVK. Instead I use a D3D9 wrapper to keep the game in the original DirectX 9 but with fewer glitches. Without a wrapper the game will always crash if I change graphics settings but with a wrapper it's more stable.
@@MagicAl5F4781it compiles shaders in runtime, so if the game stutters a lot, it will go away after a while of playing
@@TJGMdepends, it may work for GPUs that are *high* like rtx 3060, or *famous* like gtx 1050. On my anonymous MX150 it's compatible in theory but it performs bad. Anyway all the info you need is in "Anton Shabunin's blog - How to fix choppiness in GTAIV"
Modders are really going strong in this year!
First the ACUnityFixes, then the Mafia 2 Final Cut and now this!
God bless them! 🙏
yeahhh final cut was such a good mod and all these mods for gta 4 now are amazing!
Can you elaborate on AC Unity? Does the fixes work on online mode?
Was thinking about playing with a friend for the first time, before they kill off the servers lol
@@SoyNeh Well, on the mod's Nexus site, it reads: "Also, seems to work OK in Multiplayer but not tested very extensively."
Personally, I can't say, because the truth is, I've never played Unity. My PC was very weak, when it came out (back then I couldn't continue the series after Revelations) and I didn't return to the AC franchise until '19.
But after I'm done with Odyssey (probably around late autumn), I'm gonna play it to the fullest!
I'm really grateful to the modders that I'll be able to experience this game as it should've been come out in the first place!
@@MasonPayneJericho Oh great, I'll have to check it out then
But yeah same as you. Was blown away by the idea of playing AC with friends but my toaster couldn't handle it. Now is time to catch up!
@@SoyNehunity coop missions are really good especially if you're into its stealth mechanics
I can't believe there have been so many issues that Ive never seen before. It's amazing to see what modders can do to fix the games we love.
This, this right here is why I play mainly on PC these days. Even if a PC port is trash, 9 times out of 10 there are community made fixes that fix, and or improve the experience. Thank god for the modding community and thank god for people like you bringing light to these mods. EDIT: I have been using these mods since I saw this video and they work just fine. Made me fall in love with the game all over again.
the only problem about it is when there's a bunch of small mods that fix things that end up clashing with your qol mods, so you can either have fix without qol mod, or qol mod without fix
@@possibly_benWhat are QOL mods?
@@ParodieHecker-mobile quality of life
I hope SR2 gets the same treatment
@@possibly_benyeah like the kotor 1 restoration cut content mod and the community patch mod. Can’t use both of them so you have pick and choose
It seems to me that most of these issues came with updates and with new GPU drivers etc. As when I originally played this on my ATi HD4850 and later on HD 6950 I absolutely had no dark shadows under cars, no massive pop-in and I had rain looking just as it did on console.
Yeah. I don’t remember these issues either. It must be the updates coming years after release pr usual with many games
Great video! Just to add to this, I would recommend using the radio downgrader in order to restore the full radio soundtrack (many songs were removed due to licensing with thw release of the Complete Edition, especially Vladivostok FM).
Really? Where can I find this radio downgrader thing?
"the performance has and always will be an issue" *instantly stops watching and breaks into tears*
i know i felt the same, but one can only hope.
you know about dxvk right 💀
Search up "gta iv dxvk"
@@DGCastelldude look up dxvk it vastly improved the graphics
Doesn't work for everyone
for old games on a desktop you can often run them at 4x the resolution.
basically fixes any anialiasing or weird pixel highlights.
best part is that for many configurations it won't even effect performance.
besides letting you turn anti aliasing off.
love your videos! they're clear, to the point without unecessary narration, and just overall good. thanks for making these :D
Thank you! It means a lot.
damn and i just bought the xbox 360 version of gta 4. It was on sale and for 10 dollars i was able to get it with the manual, map, and disk@@TJGM
having a built-in fps limiter is going to be insanely helpful for a lot of people. having only a vsync option sucked since even the lowest refresh rate monitors are usually 60hz today, meaning that for missions like the final one where you have to spam space to climb into the helicopter, you still need to press it TWICE as fast as intended.
As someone who just got my first PC, I found GTA 4 to be better on PC than Xbox etc but these EXACT issues annoyed me. It's great to see modders getting to work on these
Modding this game is a fucking nightmare, they're all so scattered about. I wish someone would make a guide, say something like the viva new vegas guide for fallout. Just someone that truly knows what they're talking about regarding the game and modding.
Are you serious? Lol, this has been the easiest game to mod I've come across. Fusion fix and various fixes it's a drag and drop.
Your videos always fun to watch, lots of things to learn! The console visuals making me play this game again. Thanks a lot.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy them.
Very nice.
Unfortunately, one thing that sucks right now is that the mods in question have little to no videos that SHOW how to install them. Telling only gets you so far and people can get stumped pretty easily (I know I get easily stumped). I hope that videos do come out that SHOW how to install these neat mods, because these mods seem like must-haves.
Working on one right now!
Have you got any article or video , how to install fusion fix mod ? I really need help installing this mod 😔 . I am new to pc games 🎮😢❤
with these 3 mods and as well the GTA IV 1th year anniversary pack (found it through a community post on steam) gives a pretty great experience... now if only there were a way to add in multiplayer on CE
Thanks for covering this mod. Could you additionally showcase a side by side comparison of XBOX 360, PC and PC+FusionFix visuals with console-like settings? I'm sure many people are curious about how faithful FusionFix's console gamma and other improvements are to the original XBOX version.
This game still looks beautiful after all these years.
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it has the most character and distinguished atmosphere among all gta games
@@Targoon_MusicGTA 3 and GTA 4 have the best atmosphere
@@PanKoxu no wonder those two are my favorite games, shame rockstar decided to butcher the remake 🤡
Remaster, not a remake@@deadwine511
@@deadwine511 yeah same. They are also my favorites. Currently im getting the platinum trophy for original version of GTA 3 (PS2) on PS5 since i already platinumed the whole remastered trilogy
Yeah, as others have said, I’ve been able to keep my performance at a nearly locked 60 in this game by using DXVK and turning night shadows off, as well as putting view distance and detail distance to 50. Only transitioning between islands and flying in a helicopter really bring it down now. Would recommend!
Just crank down the night shadow to high, it's more than enough, very high night shadow unoptimised with dxvk.Cuz The night shadow (act as dynamic shadow) illuminate the shadow just nice 4 real. Worth to turn this option to medium or high.... At least better than not at all
@@ferdirenaldi3303 word I’ll give it a shot. I never really noticed a difference between on and off so I just figured they were broken or something.
Your amazing content is why I subbed you long ago. Your tutorials and videos are the best. Absolutely brilliant! These channels and modders are what keeping games alive and they should be getting more attention. I hope just like gta 4 someone also fixes the awful true crime new york city on PC. Its a good game.
the performance was already fixed with DXVK, converting the API From DirectX to Vulkan gets you a much better frame rate with less stutter.
So by default on Linux with proton in Steam you are going to have a much better experience than native Windows.
In a way I quite like a little blur, it gave it atmosphere. The dvd never worked on win 10 or 11,but it's code made it playable via the rockstar launcher. I think rockstar toronto converted it to pc. lighting isn't great in GTA V either, object shadows can move as you walk closer or away from them.
is there an easy to follow tutorial on how to get all these mods working and with DVKV?
Plz make a installation guide for these mods showcased
I don't have a very powerful pc, I might say it's even weak, but it runs GTA 5 good on medium/low settings. The PC even checks all the boxes under "recommended settings" for GTA 4, and yet, I can barely play that game. Even on lowest settings, constant frame drops, screen-tearing etc. This is not The Way.
How do you install these mods? I’ve been putting them in my gta 4 root folder but it keeps crashing my game :(
Where's Vulkan support for GTA IV? I downloaded, used it and every performance issue with the game has DISSAPEARED. The stutters, the loading bugs, everything. It stutters in the beginning when loading it all up, but i also think it stutters in the start because i have the game on HDD, but after 1-2minutes of loading the game, there was apsolutely NO stutters and FPS drops. AT ALL.
Do I need all three and their other dozen of required fixes installed? This is a nightmare... Why they can't just merge all these projects into one with simpler installation?
Hey guys, just a general question, every time I install the game it only recognizes my CPU but never my GPU so I can't even put the game at max settings (I have a RTX 3050). Anyway to solve it? Any mod or anything? I have searched and nothing so far :(
Do mods disable achievements in GTA IV? Great video :)
Truly a Rockstar moment.
Damn I gotta play through GTA 4 again
Loved the video. Informative and straight to the point. Keep it up!
Also: Shoutout to all the modders out there who keep, not only GTA IV, but tons of other games out there alive and still fun to play even after years has passed!
It's amazing how much better the game looked on 360 for so many years. It certainly looks and plays great on my Xbox One X. PC got shafted majorly. However mods are probably the best part of PC gaming. With a select set of mods, mainly FusionFix, Various Fixes, Console Visuals, and DXVK, GTAIV is TRANSFORMED. It FINALLY looks as good as it could have over a decade ago! With some HD texture packs over the top of that, it looks incredibly modern and shows how high the devs reached on the 360 version.
It's awesome how the PC community has rallied in the past few years and started updating their mods for the new version of the game. My only gripe is the game has very strong aliasing and Fusion Fix's FXAA doesn't do much for it at 1440p. Instead I'm using SMAA+FXAA+Fidelity FX CAS via Reshade. That gets me a much better result than any of the in-game options do. I wish we could do DSR with this game but it seems not to like it with or without DXVK.
I'm going to re-install this legendary game and its DLCs so does the order in which you install the mods matter? Can the "Radio Downgrader" (from nexusmods) also be added (if it's not already included in one of these mods?) as well as DXVK on top of it all or will there be compatibility issues? Btw you're doing a great job, keep it up! 👍🏽
love the mod however I don't have the extra options in the menu
I have alot of experience modding different games and GTA IV is by far the most frustrating to mod, all the different game versions and lack of compatibility between mods with very little documentation make it a nightmare. Alot of the most popular tools and programs like the downgrader just do not work on some machines like mine for unknown reasons, just leading to blackscreens that require fresh reinstalls. And when you do get it working, it just updates itself breaking everything despite having updates disabled and mods specifically to prevent this from happening haha.
I haven't really played this game since release. Outside of performance, I wasn't aware it had several graphical issues on PC compared to console.
where are the fixes for all the mission bugs like the one dance mini game where u just freeze but everything around u keeps moving?!
Wow! So it was depth of field all the time on consoles not 2x AA?? I knew something was off with the PC version and it never looked right.
2:58 I wish I would join something like that in gta sa
Tutorial on proper installations of these mods?
Sadly the one of the console visuals absolutely borked my game to a point no NPCs would load in at all, no audio on phone at all, cutscenes wouldn't load so I couldn't start a new save game. I'm assuming it's the one involving NPCs, if NPCs can not load at all and everything is in engine, I'd assume that's likely what did it.
I remember the good old days with my crappy PC having definition turned off and when i was walking around hove beach watching the sunset, pure nostalgia.
All this is nice but for me graphics is not very important. Thus I would actually like to see someone fix the technical aspect of the game, making it work on the hardware that it should work on properly. That would be a great fix, if anyone could do that. Sadly, none of the modders are that skilled.
Being honest a lot of the fixed shaders get more performance out of the game compared to the broken ones, so if you want more performance, then using the newer shaders with lower settings should give you a boost.
any chance you can give us an install guide for these mods?
I think I have to play this game again. Thank you for this video man. You got a sub from me :D
Do you have a tutorial on how to add these mods correctly?
For those of you looking for nicer shadows without mods, turn down the shadow setting to high. It preserves a lot of the detail of very high, doesn’t look insanely sharp, and can heavily reduce resource usage (on the Steam Deck, high shadows reduced GPU usage by 30-50% depending on the area).
Question: is there a way to combine this mod and the Radio Downgrader? R* removed a bunch of cool songs from the game via the latest update and I want those back, but both FusionFix and the Radio Downgrader have a "dinput8.dll" and I'm afraid that one file would be conflicting with the other, breaking one or both mods.
It's just an Ultimate ASI Loader by ThirteenAG . It will not make the conflict
They're the same, but use the one from Fusion Fix in case you have an old version of Radio Downgrader.
Highly underrated channel I hope u get the viewers u deserve! Btw what accent is that? I just couldn’t guess lmao
Doesn't this multimulliondollar corp have anybody to fix their own games? Not one dude from any of their departments. That's absolutely amazing.
Thank you so much friend! I can't tell you how useful this video was❤ I chose to install console visuals the manual way to make sure it worked properly and like the read me said the manual way is super long and boring but when I loaded into the game, it was buttery smooth 😊 made such a difference I think it lowkey also helps with performance because before I couldn't really enable shadows it would make the game very laggy. It's been such a journey modding this game and making it playable but so rewarding. On an unrelated note I am a sound engineer and there's a hit marker mod a really cool person made where he let's you put any .wav audio files into the headshot folder and that sound will play out when you hit a headshot, I made my own sound effects for it and if anyone would like to try it out in there game I'd be happy to share it. Also I've seen alot of stuff on the internet about the episode of livery city not working properly anymore after modding and downgrading, I had the same issue but I discovered that it was the potential grim mod that would either crash episodes or cause infinite load screen . Just thought I'd share, and thank you again it truly warms my heart to see this game getting love to this day and people like you still making content on how to fix it and make it playable.
I didn't even know that PC version was so broken because i never saw console version. Great work!
Thanks for the video!
Well those graphical improvements likely doesn't seem too great for handhelds like the Steam Deck. Well, that might not be true. I do have a repack of EFLC which i think has mods pre-installed and it runs far too good on the steam deck as it is. I've added a ton of commandline stuff and whatnot.
It’s mind boggling how broken the pc port is
If i have to to limit my game to 30 fps , should i have to turn both frame limiter and vsync on ?? Or only one option and which option ?
from my experience using 1/2 vsync + gsync through nvidia inspector with 30 fps lock through the fusionfix limiter works like a charm with minimal input lag
@@fireseed1130 hey 👋 , thanks for the reply , but I have Intel hd 4400(potato) igpu , so I didn't have any nvidia graphics properties stuff 😐.
ah sorry then, in this case locking your fps to 30 through the fusionfix limiter should be enough if some tearing doesn't bother you much, but if you want to be tearing free there's probably some kind of control panel for your gpu that maybe have the 1/2 refresh rate vsync option
@@fireseed1130 ok I will try it 🤞.
I started playing GTA IV today. Thankfully the algorithm brought me here so i can have the best experience.
the Console Visual downloads arent working, i click on the DOWNLOADS but nothing happens
What a weird coincidence I just decided to continue my playthrough on steam deck a few days ago and found this
the funny thing was for over 15 years people called me crazy for not liking the pc version of gta 4, now people are actually realizing how crappy it is both performance and graphically, i have stuck to the xbox 360 for gta 4 exclusively, im glad though that modders are finally fixing all these graphical bugs with the game.
I don't think you're correct about that first sentence. GTA IV's PC port is notoriously bad, so much so that people had to literally download a graphics mod in the early days to get it to run smoothly without crashes. Even Rockstar themselves used the mod in the Meltdown movie for GTA V. And on top of that, you had to deal with that awful Games for Windows Live bullshit which was a plague on PC gaming back in the 7th generation.
It wasn't until 2012 & 2013ish when GTA IV without that ugly graphics mod could FINALLY be play smoothly on PC due to the newer GPUs at that time. And even then, the PC port is still a mess to this day.
@@fredster594 Ik It was horrible in the beginning, but I knew a lot of people in the GTA forums who were defending GTA 4 on PC saying it was the best version of the game. Those were typically the people who made these mods aswell now.
@@thedrbat9572 It depends. GTA IV is generally a really poorly optimized game that even the console versions run like shit with both 360 and PS3 barely running at a consistent 30fps. The PC port can negate those issues by having a mid tier PC which can not only make the fps more consistent but also exceed 30fps. It also doesn't help that GTA IV visually is a really ugly game with some of the worst blur effects I've seen in a video game which is especially prevelant in the console versions. While the PC port has a lot of technical and graphical problems, you can't deny that the game on average looks a LOT better on PC with it having less of that hideous blur, more natural looking vegetation and a much nicer gamma than the console versions.
@@fredster594 well thats the thing, I don't just deny that the PC version looks better, it's clearly worse visually, maybe it's a preference thing, but the dry matte look on PC is so hideous and it is stuttery too, blurriness isn't so bad when the rest of the visuals are atleast able to be working correctly, what's the point of clearness on PC? Clearly getting to the see the problems of the game??
What are the remaining issues on pc compared to consoles? Please make a video on it sometime.
I don't have the extra display setting shown in the video and I have everything installed
I never had any crashes on PC port of this game back in 2008.
I get both black and white raindrops now, don't know why.
plz help, for some reason i got huge performance hit with the various fixes, console visuals and fusionfix mods (running with dxvk)
0:15 Literally they only thing PC players wanted fixing 🙄
Okay some of the options are pretty sick, being able to change FPS & turn off filters is Godsend.
Hey there, I have installed these mods, they're actually incredible, however I have encountered the infamous taxi glitch, any suggestions?
Increase the vehicle budget inside the fusion fix ini.
HOW TO INSTALL?
Currently replaying the game with the iceenhancer 3.0 enb and a few other mods and its so refreshing after all the years of vanilla gameplay
Until I downloaded fusionfix, i never knew that there was rain in the first part of the first mission of TLAD.
mine crashes everytime i try and start a game or load a game, even after installing this it still happens, its unplayable
How to install various fixes mod? I cant get it to work. There is a anim.img file and in the mod its a folder with the same name and i cant replace it
hi TJGM i ran into a problem with Fusion Fix whenever i play with the mod installed i just cannot save or autosave the game and i don't know what to do any ideas ??
Imagine all of this with GTA (IV) Connected. That whould be cool! Great video btw.
Thank you man very helped!
Could you make a tutorial on how to install all these mods please.
it's strange, but fusionfix neither as dxvk won't work, latest steam version, latest drivers on gtx 1070, and game runs regular vanilla version or just crashing
Loved the mod, hope it continues to grow without Rockstar threatening it like it happened to other ones
Until the GTA 5, I think nearly every other Rockstar game on PC was the inferior versions of the console versions including even GTA Vice City and San Andreas. This mods actually makes me wanna start a new playthrough with the game. I love the modding community. They deserve huge respect.
can anyone tell me how to install console visuals mod?? also will console visuals and various fixes interfere with fusionfix??
Just grab the update folder from each file and place it where gta4 exe is located
@@karthikeyanar232 I figured it out after few hrs of writing this comment, thanks tho
Installing DXVK made my game not load. It launches and freezes on start up.
console visuals does not download for me. what happened?
Every time i boot up the game my resolution setting and fov reset to the lowest, anyone got a fix for this? Its really annoying.
Bro you are amazing!!! it would we awesome if u do a video about how to install these mods in GTA IV!
they could have used some of that shark card money to fix it themselves.
Help I installed the mods and it works beautifully but the only cars that spawn in traffic are taxis and police cars
Can you make a step by step video on how to install these mods.
Question is how do I actually install these mods?
drag and drop bruh
The biggest problem with the PC version was the one bug in two missions you had to spam spacebar and it was impossible to not fail. Other than that and installing the game after the Games Of Windows Live service shutdown I do not recall there being broken stuff (atleast years after release). However, having modders improve the experience is appreciated nonetheless.
That's a frame rate issue, you can easily fix it by limiting your frame rate to 30 at those sections. Although it is annoying.
Still a lot of stuff broken after the GFWL shut down, as seen in this video :P
You have to play this game capped at 60 fps, not 30 as many people say. Above 60 is where problems begin. Another thing is, GFWL never shut down, it still works as of today. It was only removed by Rockstar from the Steam version when they released the complete edition, but still works on any previous version or if you have the physical edition.
It’s just a shame that modders even have to do this in the first place. GTA 4 is the reason why Rockstar is where it is now, and they don’t seem to appreciate that.
Technically you can say GTA3 to 5 are the reason Rockstar is where it’s at now
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Yes but GTA 4 was a huge step. GTA 5 is literally built on GTA 4.
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My biggest problems with pc port were related to using a high frequency screen.
1. Near impossible to finish main story last mission with helicopter
2. Air hokey is not fun because the puck is slow or gets stuck
3. Arm wrestling is too hard
Good thing jittery cutscenes can be fixed
The old GTA games require 30fps. 60pfs or higher creates instability not just in GTA 4 but also in the old 3D trilogy. Our new PCs can reach 100fps easily so they become more and more unstable.
The fusionfix mod does include a framelimiter thankfully for cutscenes and ingame.
I love GTA IV, but goddamn is it a pain to get running. Zolika Patch, Fusion Fix, DXVK/DXVK Async, ColAccel, ReShade, downgrader...ahhh!
It's definitely a bit of a mess. I'm going to do a video soon...ish, on how to get it running well.
all the mods listed here are pretty much drag and drop. no need for downgrading or other snake oil
@icantreadyourmind1395 Unfortunately, I'm learning that the hard way. I've also shoved my head into the Open IV rabbit hole, which evidently gets quite messy.
I'd honestly recommend using DXVK alongside these mods. Reason being that GTA IV and EFLC both have really weird hardware scalability issues where they'll run terribly no matter the hardware. The game ran identically for me no matter on my old 750Ti setup, my 1060/1070 setups, my RX 5700XT, or my Radeon 6900XT, and could barely even hold up a solid 60FPS. However, when using the 32-Bit version of DXVK, which will convert DirectX 9 draw calls to Vulkan ones, it actually improves performance due to driver overhead. Can get 120FPS or so with DXVK, but at the cost of some shader compilation stuttering. That paired with the Large Memory Address Aware patch, so the game can utilize more than 2GB of RAM properly, and it feels more in line with what I'd expect the game to run at nowadays. But with a lot of older games, I'd recommend DXVK because of how bad and jank NVIDIA and AMD's DX9 driver support is nowadays, that's something people fail to take into account when criticizing the Intel Arc cards for simply using API translation layers rather than to do the work in their drivers.
Of course, hunt down the soundtrack restoration mod as well.
Only found out about DXVK recently, I'll have a video on it tomorrow.
the weapon spread and the rain splatter did not get fixed on mine