I think Zabuza vs Team 7 could have made it into the top. Multi layered trap from Sasuke and Naruto, and Kakashi using psychological tricks in tandem with the Sharingan to manipulate Zabuza into acting a specific way, and panic at the idea of Kakashi predicting the future.
Homestly, they should have also made it more clear, and used it more, that turning clones into items is Naruto speciality and not easy to combine the two, otherwise it makes no sense that it's not used more
Physician here. What I love about these fights is that most of the strategies are scientific. My favorite is Kidomaru finding the blind spot on Neji's byakugan. Observation, hypothesis, experiment (using long-range attacks), analysis, and conclusion. This discovery made the fight very hard for Neji. Kidomaru is THE ONLY ONE (as far as I am concerned) in the series who is able to show this weakness. The precise localization of the blind spot behind the first thoracic vertebra is also ridiculous. Truly a sharp analyst.
He's one of my favorite characters because of how much I relate, being smart can make doing or stressing over anything feel like a drag. I've always wished I was dumber because ignorance is bliss, intelligence is a heavy burden when it makes you feel disconnected
In your example of the Pain fight, pretty sure Naruto also cover the eyes of the Preta path to stop that one from revealing the clone coming in from the top rope. Honestly, he kept track of every moving part really well.
That's also why the clone that jumped up to attack from above attacked the Naraka Path instead of the Deva Path, even though the Deva Path was the more troublesome opponent. If he'd tried to attack the Deva Path, the Naraka Path would have seen him coming.
I'd say at that time Obito didn't actually knew that Minato was able to teleport to his kunais. The fact that not even Kakashi knew that this "special kunai" gifted to him by Minato actually had a Flying Raijin seal on it and Minato was actually able to teleport to it at any given moment, only proves this statement. Also, without knowledge of that, it caught Obito off guard by kunai being out of his sight and Minato being the fastest being alive (just remember how even Sasuke (one of the fastest character in the series by the way) struggled against Bee's speed in a close combat) made it impossible for Obito to react in time
Sasuke going to missions and turning himself to a tree just to not pay any child support is the highest iq move in the series. Dude won the battle of life
Naruto in a nutshelll: "..and then he used a 12th shadowclone+rasengan, the previous attacks were all fake attacks, and when the 12th does not do the trick, he uses a 13th shadowclone+rasengan and when ..."
@@Pain-106 Typical dumb Naruto interpretation here. There were plenty of strategies used in that fight, the most notable one being Sasuke making the clouds fat with fire jutsus to enable his Kirin.
It's just that, since the combatants got way more destructive arsenals, some fans began seeing the War Arc as much simpler than it actually was. Naruto figuring out that Juubito is not immune to sage energy, because Gamakichi's acid spit wasn't completely brushed off by the Truth-Seeking Orb, so he and Tobirama worked in tandem to shove a senjutsu-infused Rasengan in his still-marked back is an example I always remember. Not to mention that ridiculous scheme to Flying Thunder God the whole Ninja Alliance out of the Six Rays Formation, in order to escape Juubito's Juubi Bombs.
You gotta put so Sakura vs Sasori moments in there…When she creates anti-virus to Sasoris poison. They literally say only like 3 others could’ve done what she did
I put the neji vs kidomaru fight higher on my list bc the fight revolved around kidomaru trying to find neji's weakness and it involved him coming up with a hypotheses and then testing said hypotheses during the fight (much like how sasuke tested out his hypothesis of his lightning style countering deidara's bombs). The counterplay in that fight was so cool and I think it's the most strategic fight out of the sound 4.
Yeah, we dont really see much analyzing and counterplaying by the antagonists in the series. It's usually the antagonist who's having an unusual ability and the protagonists have to figure it out and defeat them
The Sasuke vs Deidara is definitely one of the best fights in the anime! A lot of Sasuke haters try to downplay that fight arguing that Sasuke shouldn't have won the battle and all, but they don't bother asking what the f*** did Deidara do to be "imune" to Sasuke's genjutsu lol
11:30 i like that genjutsu a lot because of how its used. characters always use mega genjutsus that put you in another world or make see you irreal things. but a very small genjutsu that lets you think that a very small detail is just a bit different is very hard to counter. i think that even the jinchurikis would be affected due to how small these genjutsus are.
Yeah I’ve always thought subtle genjutsu are op. Like imagine a genjutsu that makes it look like you are 10 meters further than you are. Something simple like that would be op in a fight
because the show isn’t about them anymore, what more character development do you want from the characters that are side characters of the original show?
@@BlitzzMafia DO You know what peak means? So you think Boruto>>LOTR,VINLAND saga, Beserk, Star Wars, Bionicle, Ninjago, Avatar last airbender, A song of ice and fire, Squid game, and a tone more. I think Boruto is garbage, because it is poorly written, however I can somewhat see people liking it, but peak, smh. There is so much wrong with it. calling it peak, is delusional at best, because even though Naruto for me is a solid 6/10, It is leagues above Boruto in every aspect, in fact it is an insult to Naruto to even compare it to Boruto. Boruto is not peak, you guys only think it is peak, because Boruto is older, edgy, and "the strongest" now. We have bad character designs for everyone except Boruto and Mitsuki, awful dull boring villains, boring fodder claw grimes. Nerfing of og characters to elevate new gens. Dumb powerscalings, contradictions in powerscaling. Characters being outright being stupid. Asspull powers like Eida. I could go on. Countless retcons, and contradictions.
@@chaos_knight_xysounds like you gave up on boruto pretty early on, the writing got way better further in and I’m not up to date on the manga but some mates are and what they’re saying about it shits gonna get hype af once the anime returns
Tbh I feel like Sasuke vs Naruto at the end of part 1 should be on the list. Sasuke made so many intelligent plays there, between how he used the wire to bind Naruto, calculated how many tools he had and realized he needed to steal Naruto's tool bag. Hell, he even had a few moments where he would've won much earlier but specifically chose not to because he was strategically dragging out the fight so that he could evolve his sharingan to 3 tomoe
Haha glad to see Sasuke Vs Deidara as the number one. I actually guessed it was gonna be in the first place. This fight isn't very important but is one of the best ;) That volume cover page is the most baddaaasss
4:26 when I first saw this fight, and how well kakashi chozo and choji did against two of the paths, and then konohamaru rasenganing the other, I really thought pain was not gonna be that big of a deal
Finally some Sasuke vs. Deidara respect. Easily a top 5 fight in the entire series. I think people overlook it because its Deidara, but hes actually extremely strategic.
I have to sai it, dude, i love this channel, new here and am watching all of your videos, and even when i think there's missing something then you come wuth the information...
Hear me out This is your list, and knowing you, you have carefully studied and Han picked this list. In a 16 times list, almost all the low rank are from shippuuden, and the nest ones are from season 1. Means to show that strategy is almost not as good and intensive as season 1. You're still right that its not lost. But we can all agree its not as smart as before. The "laser" and "kamehame blast" thing really reduced the thinking. Yes. Deidara vs sasuke is the best IQ fight. Agree!
Good list overall. I think Sasuke vs. Itachi is also worth an honorable mention since both were amazing strategists and although you *think* Sasuke won the battle of wits at first, you later get Tobi's plot twist dump regarding Itachi's motives and how the fight *really* went. Itachi, despite succumbing to illness, had accomplished everything he wanted to in that battle as he never intended to kill Sasuke in the first place. Instead, he focused heavily on subtly protecting Sasuke in the battle (such as removing Orochimaru's curse mark and planting Amaterasu in an effort to prevent Tobi from revealing the truth).
I know you're trying to defend the terrible fights in the war arcs but you unintentionally just proved the naysayers right. The war arc's intelligent moments in fights are just moments and as the list goes on and the older fights are shown you have entire intelligent fights from beginning to end. The war arc definitely took a step back in terms of intelligence in favor of giant kaiju battles and every other attack being a nuke capable of obliterating a hidden village and the time spent trying to defend that arc just made me roll my eyes.
Naruto hae a kaiju battle since the beginning the war arc has it problem's but they still use strategy to beat there enemies even against kagua which better than anything comes form boruto they use strategy and tactics
Honestly Itachi vs. Konoha and Itachi vs. Sasuke has to be the highest IQ moments because of simply what Itachi was ACTUALLY doing the entire time. Jiraiya vs. Pain was very high as well.
i feel like there's more to why kakashi missed that raikiri. Because he had all whole weird vision with the rinnegan isolated with just black surrounding them for a few seconds
Yea I think at the very least konan vs obito and jiraiya vs pain should be on the list. Konan set the fight location and knew how long kamui would work. Only lost cause izanagi. Jiraiya also figured out the secret that greatly helped Naruto
I really like the fights Kakashi is in and Minato vs. Obito is one of my personal favs too. Nice ranking! I'm just sad for my boy Shino and that he really didn't get anything in Shippuden. Some characters definitely deserved so much more but that's another topic.
I think Ino Shika Cho vs Kingaku and Gingaku also deserved a place in the top, despite being considerably weaker than them, they defeated them by turning their own weapons against them
If each akatsuki pair switch their opponent will they still keep up with the high IQ battle or they straight up lose? Like: Kakuzu vs Shikamaru Hidan vs Team Kakashi Deidara vs Gaara, Chizo + Sakura Sasori vs 3-tails, Sasuke Itachi vs Killer Bee, Gai Kisame vs Sasuke Konan vs Utakata, Jiraiya, Naruto Pain vs Obito
Personally i think Kakashi AND itachi highest battle iq. The way Kakashi uses substitution jutsu he fooled everyone itachi,óbito,pain etc. AND itachi i mean he has people literally fighting themselves lol
In that matter(Battle IQ) Naruto is like Goku like they're way Intelligent when it comes to fighting most of the time no 🧢 Edit: Love them Cheems and Doges dancing at the end
Naruto didn’t have a shadow clone transform into a rasenshuriken during the pain fight, it was himself. Otherwise that pain would have absorbed the shadow clone jutsu. And that’s why when he absorbs the transformation he says “so you’re the original”
The Naruto that was transformed into a Rasenshuriken during the Pain fight was not a Shadow Clone. The Shadow Clone was the one that attacked the Naraka Path. If the transformed Naruto that was thrown at the Preta Path had been a Shadow Clone, the Preta Path's chakra absorption would have dispelled the Shadow Clone at the same time as the transformation. That's why when Naruto tackles the Preta Path, the latter says 'you're the original?'
Number 1 was not just a awesome fight. But it was also a hard counter so that the story can move on but the quick summoning escape was really well thought through
I'm pretty sure the fake rasenshuriken is not a shadow clone transformed, is Naruto itself transofrmed, other way, Pain would absorbed the transformation and also the shadow clone. Watching the sequence the montage kind of suggest it, I think. Great video btw.
The issue with by this tier list is the concept of perception and scale. Strategy is relative to perception which can be a catch all term for power level, experience, fundamentals, implementation of the those three prior disciplines. What does that mean? Let's say your a katateka fighting against a boxer, the greater the gap in abilities between the two sport combatants or life and death combatants (because those are two very different type of engagements) because fundamentals one has rules and one doesn't at it's core. Let's say both sport combatants are having a medium intensity round and for simplicity sake they have roughly the same level of abilities. The fight will require tremendously more strategy than an amateur boxer vs a professional because the abilities difference between the two changes their perception which changes the strategy. In case people don't know professional fighters study for hours the fights and movements of their upcoming matches to adapt their strategy but against far superior fighters with greater abilities this has vary degrees of success. How does that relate to this non-realistic battle shounen? It means comparing almost all of the part 1 fights to part 2 fights fall apart because the scale of abilities of the combatants is very vast with the exception being Kakashi vs Leaf Jonin. Like you can argue that Shino vs Kankuro is very strategic but that's because the perception of the two characters isn't a big gulf but you can't rank higher than Guy vs Madara because the abilities and perception of Madara allows him to observe and toy with a fighter who must rely on support to have a fighting chance. If you take any of those characters at that level of ability and swap them for Shino then the strategy will be incredibly simple and a one move stomp. Conversely, if you put Shino or Kankuro in place of anyone vs Madara it doesn't matter what they do Madara just does a one move curbstomp and goes about his business. This means you can argue that a simpler strategy can be a higher form of strategy because the exponent is so developed he can negate the need for complex ones. That's what makes this tier list hypocritical in almost all of the rankings unfortunately. Now if you said this was a tier list of the level of effort fighters used to win and how nuanced it was shown it would be much more accurate. But this isn't a good title to market so I get it.
The strategies Shino used in your rewrite were better than anything in this list. Naruto tries to emphasize the importance of preparation, but there are so few times a character specifically prepares for a fight by bringing a counter to the enemies' abilities. Konan v Obito, Shikimaru vs Hidan, and the Sasori fight were great, but it wasn't enough.
I find amazing how you guys are not only able to remember what happened in that long, boring, convoluted, poorly written, repetitive, 80-chapter fight against Obito, Madara and the Ten-Tails, but are also able to find qualities.
One thing I always wondered about is, how exactly does this replacing of eyeballs work in verse? Like are they just casually pulling their own eyeballs out and putting the other guys' balls inside the socket? (That wouldn't really work because eyeballs have more or less the most concentrated nervous system attached to them). Also it never really seems like there's a lot of pain involved (which it certainly would be IRL). Would love a vid on this topic, thanks! Keep it up!
@@GIN.356.A not really, but the guys that do it are just built different in the verse. For example, in the Danzo fight they say that "Hashirama powers are hard to control" but we all know that's bs and everybody get some of those cells as cheap powerups!
The best strategy is that Naruto knew about Talk No Jutsu since he was a child, he just needs some strong emotion in the target, something he can connect to. After that he can rewrite part of people's emotions and the path they will take. Something similar to what Shisui's Sharingan does. He planned everything since the day he stole the scroll. Think about it. He stole a super valuable scroll from the village to deliver to a traitor. After the situation is resolved without any major consequences for him he receives the bandana and the title of Genin... you know.....WTF This is the power of Talk No Jutsu
Actually Minato didn't figure out how kamui works. He simply realized Obito has to materialize himself to attack. That's it. And that's so obvious😂 Danzo's bodyguards did the same at the same amount of time because. I never considered that as great intelligence feat
Not sure i'd necessarily say it's the outright cleverest moment, it's more opportunism than say, Shikamaru's super-elaborate planning, but really appreciated the hell out of Naruto defeating Pain's preta Path by exploiting its inability to process Senjutsu Chakra and the fact that he was immobile anyway.
13:59 If shikimaru learned the akamichi jutsu it would be over 😮he could expand his shadow by blocking the sun physically and catch his opponents in shadow paralysis jutsu. I wonder if he expanded his shadow with the inashikacho connection could he explode people body by growing?😅
Like it or not sasuke does have the highest battle IQ in the series this is heavily implied by jigen. But even as a kid sasuke impressed the likes of madara with his battle IQ proving that even back then sasukes battle IQ was probably only second to madara’s. And only because madara had more experience.
Something about Shikamaru I kinda understand but also don't understand... is that there is a very easy way Shadow possession jutsu becomes terrifyingly useful. He doesn't exactly need to pick up an object to use it against himself I believe he has shown this as well. The way possession evolves to peirce and strike from shadows themselves means he could of easily put some time into shadow puppetry in a whole new light. I mean he can only extend from the reach of his shadow so far sure... but you can cast a shadow Miles with the right light source. Theoretically he could build a shadow version of the ninetails with a spotlight... even the nine tails couldn't actually damage the shadow either.
No way you’re saying a guys pretending not to throw a bug and knowing how the bugs work was smarter/crazier than those kamui shenanigans in the war arc
As much as I love Sasuke, I feel like Naruto is not an idiot. In the first anime he is literally a kid! Social outcast, no friends or family, very emotionally stunted. Even in Sjippuden, he made way more friends, even before Pain destroyed the village, but he spent years with only Jaraiya around him, but Jaraiya is also very intelligent, so I feel like Naruto made up for his idiocy as a child in Shippuden!
Winning against Minato without over the top hax abilities is simply impossible, not only Minato's battle IQ and adaptability one of the best but his arsenal of techniques is absurdly powerful because he has both long and short range as well as defense and offense balance. Minato can make any battlefield his turf with FTG Kunais even can escape in any situation to the other part of the planet and come back in split second behind you. Even knowing this technique is not enough to win against him that's why Obito in masked man form couldn't solo him even with all the nerfs Minato received in terms of saving village, his wife and his son's birth etc.
What's the most intelligent moment in Naruto?
When Naruto quickly learned resenshuriken by casting as many shadow cones as possible
Sakura choosing to cut her hair because Kin's *unprotected and vulnerable* hand was holding it
Tobirama challenging kinkaku and ginkaku bc he challenged someone leagues above him oh did I just explain the opposite of intelligent?🤣
When konan made a plane to counter that Obito Manginku bs jutsu
Yoooo I rock with your new pfp!
I think Zabuza vs Team 7 could have made it into the top.
Multi layered trap from Sasuke and Naruto, and Kakashi using psychological tricks in tandem with the Sharingan to manipulate Zabuza into acting a specific way, and panic at the idea of Kakashi predicting the future.
Much more strategical and cool than Shino fights
The surprise attack from Naruto and Sasuke was genius.
@@justinarzola4584 fr, Naruto planned ahead of time so much I was impressed, and Sasuke for being able to read his intention.
@@jojomachado9428shino slander unacceptable
Homestly, they should have also made it more clear, and used it more, that turning clones into items is Naruto speciality and not easy to combine the two, otherwise it makes no sense that it's not used more
Physician here. What I love about these fights is that most of the strategies are scientific. My favorite is Kidomaru finding the blind spot on Neji's byakugan. Observation, hypothesis, experiment (using long-range attacks), analysis, and conclusion. This discovery made the fight very hard for Neji. Kidomaru is THE ONLY ONE (as far as I am concerned) in the series who is able to show this weakness. The precise localization of the blind spot behind the first thoracic vertebra is also ridiculous. Truly a sharp analyst.
Being laid-back and casual like Shikamaru is called the smartest way to live
Cooksakabe
By who?
Facts.
He's one of my favorite characters because of how much I relate, being smart can make doing or stressing over anything feel like a drag. I've always wished I was dumber because ignorance is bliss, intelligence is a heavy burden when it makes you feel disconnected
Shikamaru is the only character I don’t like
In your example of the Pain fight, pretty sure Naruto also cover the eyes of the Preta path to stop that one from revealing the clone coming in from the top rope. Honestly, he kept track of every moving part really well.
How about when he transformed shadow clones to look like the terrain to catch pain off guard
That's also why the clone that jumped up to attack from above attacked the Naraka Path instead of the Deva Path, even though the Deva Path was the more troublesome opponent. If he'd tried to attack the Deva Path, the Naraka Path would have seen him coming.
Sasuke outsmarterd Deidara so bad that he got pissed and killed himself
But sasuke haters will call it plot armor
Without Orochimaru he wouldve died though.
@@William-Sunderland not really. Yeah he used the curse mark to his advantage but it wasn’t like he needed them in this fight
Sasuke just happened to be deidara's perfect counter
@@William-Sunderlandsasuke used his electricity to stop Deidara clay bombs. that was ALLLL Sasuke 😍😍
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Truly some high IQ move being done right here
Rule number one: confuse your enemy
😂😂 I was thinking the same
oh damn you're right it's 16 not 14 lmao
Shino probably never lost a single duel
I don’t the ink he did
He tied with kankuro though… and would have lost to torune if it weren’t for Naruto
Tied Kankuro
What about that brief time he and hes clan were fighting konan
@@metarock3054no he won. real fans don’t count it as a tie
Sasuke has the most goated fights in the series. Even before watching the video, I could've guessed Sasuke vs Diedara would've topped the list.
Spot on! ✅◽⚫
I'd say at that time Obito didn't actually knew that Minato was able to teleport to his kunais. The fact that not even Kakashi knew that this "special kunai" gifted to him by Minato actually had a Flying Raijin seal on it and Minato was actually able to teleport to it at any given moment, only proves this statement. Also, without knowledge of that, it caught Obito off guard by kunai being out of his sight and Minato being the fastest being alive (just remember how even Sasuke (one of the fastest character in the series by the way) struggled against Bee's speed in a close combat) made it impossible for Obito to react in time
Sasuke going to missions and turning himself to a tree just to not pay any child support is the highest iq move in the series. Dude won the battle of life
He wouldn’t do it if he truly loved Sakura 😂 they are the worst couple ever
Sasuke never remains static. He changes based on new info he learns.
also when Sasuke used fire style to eliminate Danzo's summon was very clever.
Naruto in a nutshelll:
"..and then he used a 12th shadowclone+rasengan, the previous attacks were all fake attacks, and when the 12th does not do the trick, he uses a 13th shadowclone+rasengan and when ..."
That Kakashi fight in the re write kind of beat all the originals to be honest
😅 😅
do you know which part it was in?
@@wastingtime9004during the Land of Whirlpools arc, after everyone splits up
facts
@@wastingtime9004 it's this one th-cam.com/video/VjFZg2QfmbU/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUYdGhlIGxlZ2VuZGFyeSBjb3B5IG5pbmph
Jiraiya died figuring out nagato was in the shadows and not even mentioned 🥲
Boy when he said ino vs Sakura I lost it 😂😂
Didnt expect not to see Itachi vs Sasuke
They simply exchanges their moves not any iq feats lol..
@markstein2845 That's not a Battle iq feats bro....
@markstein2845 Nha bro 🤣🤣. Minato use kunai to teleport so using kunai is biq?? 🤣
it was the only light spot of this match. And I think it won't be as good as the battle between Sasuke, Itachi and Kabuto@markstein2845
@@Pain-106 Typical dumb Naruto interpretation here. There were plenty of strategies used in that fight, the most notable one being Sasuke making the clouds fat with fire jutsus to enable his Kirin.
It's just that, since the combatants got way more destructive arsenals, some fans began seeing the War Arc as much simpler than it actually was. Naruto figuring out that Juubito is not immune to sage energy, because Gamakichi's acid spit wasn't completely brushed off by the Truth-Seeking Orb, so he and Tobirama worked in tandem to shove a senjutsu-infused Rasengan in his still-marked back is an example I always remember.
Not to mention that ridiculous scheme to Flying Thunder God the whole Ninja Alliance out of the Six Rays Formation, in order to escape Juubito's Juubi Bombs.
You gotta put so Sakura vs Sasori moments in there…When she creates anti-virus to Sasoris poison. They literally say only like 3 others could’ve done what she did
Obito never knew that minato could teleport to his kunai. He never saw minato use flying thunder god level 2.
Minato figuring out how Kami works in like three minutes and then smacking obito in the back is top five for sure
I put the neji vs kidomaru fight higher on my list bc the fight revolved around kidomaru trying to find neji's weakness and it involved him coming up with a hypotheses and then testing said hypotheses during the fight (much like how sasuke tested out his hypothesis of his lightning style countering deidara's bombs). The counterplay in that fight was so cool and I think it's the most strategic fight out of the sound 4.
Yeah, we dont really see much analyzing and counterplaying by the antagonists in the series. It's usually the antagonist who's having an unusual ability and the protagonists have to figure it out and defeat them
Agree. Deidara sasuke fight was very strategic. I would have like more of em
I do not feel the same. It was mostly "I have a move!" followed by "I have an easy and obvious counter"
The Sasuke vs Deidara is definitely one of the best fights in the anime! A lot of Sasuke haters try to downplay that fight arguing that Sasuke shouldn't have won the battle and all, but they don't bother asking what the f*** did Deidara do to be "imune" to Sasuke's genjutsu lol
You gave Shino more shine than the entire series did xD
They literally mened on him and had Naruto forget him 😭
11:30 i like that genjutsu a lot because of how its used. characters always use mega genjutsus that put you in another world or make see you irreal things. but a very small genjutsu that lets you think that a very small detail is just a bit different is very hard to counter. i think that even the jinchurikis would be affected due to how small these genjutsus are.
Yeah I’ve always thought subtle genjutsu are op. Like imagine a genjutsu that makes it look like you are 10 meters further than you are. Something simple like that would be op in a fight
A guide to show that Naruto characters are made stupider than rocks in Boruto.
because the show isn’t about them anymore, what more character development do you want from the characters that are side characters of the original show?
@@BlitzzMafia Do you think Boruto is peak!?:)
@@chaos_knight_xy yes very much so why wouldn’t it be?
@@BlitzzMafia DO You know what peak means?
So you think Boruto>>LOTR,VINLAND saga, Beserk, Star Wars, Bionicle, Ninjago, Avatar last airbender, A song of ice and fire, Squid game, and a tone more.
I think Boruto is garbage, because it is poorly written, however I can somewhat see people liking it, but peak, smh. There is so much wrong with it.
calling it peak, is delusional at best, because even though Naruto for me is a solid 6/10, It is leagues above Boruto in every aspect, in fact it is an insult to Naruto to even compare it to Boruto.
Boruto is not peak, you guys only think it is peak, because Boruto is older, edgy, and "the strongest" now.
We have bad character designs for everyone except Boruto and Mitsuki, awful dull boring villains, boring fodder claw grimes. Nerfing of og characters to elevate new gens. Dumb powerscalings, contradictions in powerscaling. Characters being outright being stupid. Asspull powers like Eida. I could go on. Countless retcons, and contradictions.
@@chaos_knight_xysounds like you gave up on boruto pretty early on, the writing got way better further in and I’m not up to date on the manga but some mates are and what they’re saying about it shits gonna get hype af once the anime returns
Shino has barely fights and he mange to be in the list shows how skilled he is
Tbh I feel like Sasuke vs Naruto at the end of part 1 should be on the list. Sasuke made so many intelligent plays there, between how he used the wire to bind Naruto, calculated how many tools he had and realized he needed to steal Naruto's tool bag. Hell, he even had a few moments where he would've won much earlier but specifically chose not to because he was strategically dragging out the fight so that he could evolve his sharingan to 3 tomoe
Haha glad to see Sasuke Vs Deidara as the number one. I actually guessed it was gonna be in the first place. This fight isn't very important but is one of the best ;) That volume cover page is the most baddaaasss
I know stuff like Sasuke vs Deidara is obvious, but if he leaves out one of Lee’s fights, that would be a diabolical oversight.
4:26 when I first saw this fight, and how well kakashi chozo and choji did against two of the paths, and then konohamaru rasenganing the other, I really thought pain was not gonna be that big of a deal
Finally some Sasuke vs. Deidara respect. Easily a top 5 fight in the entire series. I think people overlook it because its Deidara, but hes actually extremely strategic.
That new pfp is class
Sasori and Chiyo was really good too
I have to sai it, dude, i love this channel, new here and am watching all of your videos, and even when i think there's missing something then you come wuth the information...
Hear me out
This is your list, and knowing you, you have carefully studied and Han picked this list.
In a 16 times list, almost all the low rank are from shippuuden, and the nest ones are from season 1. Means to show that strategy is almost not as good and intensive as season 1. You're still right that its not lost. But we can all agree its not as smart as before. The "laser" and "kamehame blast" thing really reduced the thinking.
Yes. Deidara vs sasuke is the best IQ fight. Agree!
If you see other videos rankings the fight a lot of fight comes form Shippuden
I’m glad you broke down Kakashi Guy and Naruto countering Kamui I’ve seen it plenty of time and never quite understood how they did it
Good list overall. I think Sasuke vs. Itachi is also worth an honorable mention since both were amazing strategists and although you *think* Sasuke won the battle of wits at first, you later get Tobi's plot twist dump regarding Itachi's motives and how the fight *really* went. Itachi, despite succumbing to illness, had accomplished everything he wanted to in that battle as he never intended to kill Sasuke in the first place. Instead, he focused heavily on subtly protecting Sasuke in the battle (such as removing Orochimaru's curse mark and planting Amaterasu in an effort to prevent Tobi from revealing the truth).
For me shikamaru vs Temari is not an overlocked fight in fact i expected it to be even higher in the ranking but your choice is still good.
I know you're trying to defend the terrible fights in the war arcs but you unintentionally just proved the naysayers right. The war arc's intelligent moments in fights are just moments and as the list goes on and the older fights are shown you have entire intelligent fights from beginning to end.
The war arc definitely took a step back in terms of intelligence in favor of giant kaiju battles and every other attack being a nuke capable of obliterating a hidden village and the time spent trying to defend that arc just made me roll my eyes.
Naruto hae a kaiju battle since the beginning the war arc has it problem's but they still use strategy to beat there enemies even against kagua which better than anything comes form boruto they use strategy and tactics
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Shino appearing more in this video than in the entire shippuden anime
Sasuke vs Deidara should have easily won first place here. There were layers upon layers of strategy when it came to that fight.
Honestly Itachi vs. Konoha and Itachi vs. Sasuke has to be the highest IQ moments because of simply what Itachi was ACTUALLY doing the entire time. Jiraiya vs. Pain was very high as well.
i feel like there's more to why kakashi missed that raikiri. Because he had all whole weird vision with the rinnegan isolated with just black surrounding them for a few seconds
Shino is the only ninja that never lost a fight. Guy is a legend
Ichiraku never lost a fight.
Give Team 7 v Zabuza the flowers they deserve. Also Naruto Neji was pretty intelligent at the end.
Jiraya vs Pain? Itachi vs Nagato? Konan vs Obito? Those are worth mentioning here too. The list is great though.
Yea I think at the very least konan vs obito and jiraiya vs pain should be on the list. Konan set the fight location and knew how long kamui would work. Only lost cause izanagi. Jiraiya also figured out the secret that greatly helped Naruto
i can't believe i predicted #1, because it was my favorite fight in the anime
I really like the fights Kakashi is in and Minato vs. Obito is one of my personal favs too. Nice ranking! I'm just sad for my boy Shino and that he really didn't get anything in Shippuden. Some characters definitely deserved so much more but that's another topic.
5:16 damn i never knew obito was minatos teacher. Thats awesome
Bro i love your videos your videos encourage me to read the manga and i love it❤
I think Ino Shika Cho vs Kingaku and Gingaku also deserved a place in the top, despite being considerably weaker than them, they defeated them by turning their own weapons against them
If each akatsuki pair switch their opponent will they still keep up with the high IQ battle or they straight up lose?
Like:
Kakuzu vs Shikamaru
Hidan vs Team Kakashi
Deidara vs Gaara, Chizo + Sakura
Sasori vs 3-tails, Sasuke
Itachi vs Killer Bee, Gai
Kisame vs Sasuke
Konan vs Utakata, Jiraiya, Naruto
Pain vs Obito
Sasuke vs. Deidara defenetly deserves the 1st spot 😮😮
Personally i think Kakashi AND itachi highest battle iq. The way Kakashi uses substitution jutsu he fooled everyone itachi,óbito,pain etc. AND itachi i mean he has people literally fighting themselves lol
Remember when Shino was a mystirious badass and not a joke??? Good times
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In that matter(Battle IQ) Naruto is like Goku like they're way Intelligent when it comes to fighting most of the time no 🧢
Edit: Love them Cheems and Doges dancing at the end
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Itachi Sasuke vs Kabuto battle deserves to be on this list. Intelligence comes from everyone participating in the battle
Naruto didn’t have a shadow clone transform into a rasenshuriken during the pain fight, it was himself. Otherwise that pain would have absorbed the shadow clone jutsu. And that’s why when he absorbs the transformation he says “so you’re the original”
dude do have any plans for videos about other animes like one piece or bleach etc?
i would actually rank Shikamaru vs Hidan higher than Shikamaru vs Tayuya. but that's just me. Sasuke vs Deidara tho? absolutely.
The Naruto that was transformed into a Rasenshuriken during the Pain fight was not a Shadow Clone. The Shadow Clone was the one that attacked the Naraka Path. If the transformed Naruto that was thrown at the Preta Path had been a Shadow Clone, the Preta Path's chakra absorption would have dispelled the Shadow Clone at the same time as the transformation. That's why when Naruto tackles the Preta Path, the latter says 'you're the original?'
Naruto's Clone vs Controlled Third Raikage is still one of my favorites, Naruto accidentally recreates history. 😂
Number 1 was not just a awesome fight. But it was also a hard counter so that the story can move on but the quick summoning escape was really well thought through
#1 is Naruto and Sasuke vs Zabuza when Sasuke threw Naruto disguised as a shadow shuriken
I'm pretty sure the fake rasenshuriken is not a shadow clone transformed, is Naruto itself transofrmed, other way, Pain would absorbed the transformation and also the shadow clone. Watching the sequence the montage kind of suggest it, I think. Great video btw.
Shikamaru standing on the Kunais is Chad tbh
I believe that Jiraiya vs pain should've at least been an honorable mention.
The issue with by this tier list is the concept of perception and scale.
Strategy is relative to perception which can be a catch all term for power level, experience, fundamentals, implementation of the those three prior disciplines.
What does that mean?
Let's say your a katateka fighting against a boxer, the greater the gap in abilities between the two sport combatants or life and death combatants (because those are two very different type of engagements) because fundamentals one has rules and one doesn't at it's core.
Let's say both sport combatants are having a medium intensity round and for simplicity sake they have roughly the same level of abilities. The fight will require tremendously more strategy than an amateur boxer vs a professional because the abilities difference between the two changes their perception which changes the strategy.
In case people don't know professional fighters study for hours the fights and movements of their upcoming matches to adapt their strategy but against far superior fighters with greater abilities this has vary degrees of success.
How does that relate to this non-realistic battle shounen?
It means comparing almost all of the part 1 fights to part 2 fights fall apart because the scale of abilities of the combatants is very vast with the exception being Kakashi vs Leaf Jonin.
Like you can argue that Shino vs Kankuro is very strategic but that's because the perception of the two characters isn't a big gulf but you can't rank higher than Guy vs Madara because the abilities and perception of Madara allows him to observe and toy with a fighter who must rely on support to have a fighting chance. If you take any of those characters at that level of ability and swap them for Shino then the strategy will be incredibly simple and a one move stomp.
Conversely, if you put Shino or Kankuro in place of anyone vs Madara it doesn't matter what they do Madara just does a one move curbstomp and goes about his business.
This means you can argue that a simpler strategy can be a higher form of strategy because the exponent is so developed he can negate the need for complex ones.
That's what makes this tier list hypocritical in almost all of the rankings unfortunately.
Now if you said this was a tier list of the level of effort fighters used to win and how nuanced it was shown it would be much more accurate.
But this isn't a good title to market so I get it.
The strategies Shino used in your rewrite were better than anything in this list.
Naruto tries to emphasize the importance of preparation, but there are so few times a character specifically prepares for a fight by bringing a counter to the enemies' abilities.
Konan v Obito, Shikimaru vs Hidan, and the Sasori fight were great, but it wasn't enough.
I find amazing how you guys are not only able to remember what happened in that long, boring, convoluted, poorly written, repetitive, 80-chapter fight against Obito, Madara and the Ten-Tails, but are also able to find qualities.
One thing I always wondered about is, how exactly does this replacing of eyeballs work in verse? Like are they just casually pulling their own eyeballs out and putting the other guys' balls inside the socket? (That wouldn't really work because eyeballs have more or less the most concentrated nervous system attached to them). Also it never really seems like there's a lot of pain involved (which it certainly would be IRL). Would love a vid on this topic, thanks! Keep it up!
In Naruto universe, immunology is not really a thing. You can just plug and play bodyparts
@@GIN.356.A not really, but the guys that do it are just built different in the verse.
For example, in the Danzo fight they say that "Hashirama powers are hard to control" but we all know that's bs and everybody get some of those cells as cheap powerups!
I wish fights in My Hero Academia included such high iq battles
The naruto and ragnarok online ost are too much nostalgia for me to handle ; A ;
sakura vs sasori should be on here
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Why does this guy like Shino so much. All he can do is go ''I have a super bug and I already put it on you, now you lose''.
The best strategy is that Naruto knew about Talk No Jutsu since he was a child, he just needs some strong emotion in the target, something he can connect to.
After that he can rewrite part of people's emotions and the path they will take. Something similar to what Shisui's Sharingan does.
He planned everything since the day he stole the scroll.
Think about it.
He stole a super valuable scroll from the village to deliver to a traitor.
After the situation is resolved without any major consequences for him he receives the bandana and the title of Genin...
you know.....WTF
This is the power of Talk No Jutsu
I legit got up from my chair and exited full screen mode the moment i heard number 1 spot
Jiraya vs pain deserves to at least be in the top 10
Actually Minato didn't figure out how kamui works. He simply realized Obito has to materialize himself to attack. That's it. And that's so obvious😂
Danzo's bodyguards did the same at the same amount of time because. I never considered that as great intelligence feat
Not sure i'd necessarily say it's the outright cleverest moment, it's more opportunism than say, Shikamaru's super-elaborate planning, but really appreciated the hell out of Naruto defeating Pain's preta Path by exploiting its inability to process Senjutsu Chakra and the fact that he was immobile anyway.
13:59 If shikimaru learned the akamichi jutsu it would be over 😮he could expand his shadow by blocking the sun physically and catch his opponents in shadow paralysis jutsu. I wonder if he expanded his shadow with the inashikacho connection could he explode people body by growing?😅
Like it or not sasuke does have the highest battle IQ in the series this is heavily implied by jigen. But even as a kid sasuke impressed the likes of madara with his battle IQ proving that even back then sasukes battle IQ was probably only second to madara’s. And only because madara had more experience.
Sasuke has the best biq feat in naruto
Something about Shikamaru I kinda understand but also don't understand... is that there is a very easy way Shadow possession jutsu becomes terrifyingly useful. He doesn't exactly need to pick up an object to use it against himself I believe he has shown this as well. The way possession evolves to peirce and strike from shadows themselves means he could of easily put some time into shadow puppetry in a whole new light. I mean he can only extend from the reach of his shadow so far sure... but you can cast a shadow Miles with the right light source. Theoretically he could build a shadow version of the ninetails with a spotlight... even the nine tails couldn't actually damage the shadow either.
Guys where can I find Naruto's manga coloured the same way as the pics in the video?The colouring is so well done.
Nice new PFP
itachi and sasuke vs kabuto
Deidara vs Gaara is my fav fight. What a way to start the time skip.
@markstein2845the gara rescue arc is a perfect start for Shippuden the problem is that a lot of people watch the anime
Naruto Shino went from blowing peoples arms off to the Ned Flanders teacher edition in Boruto
No way you’re saying a guys pretending not to throw a bug and knowing how the bugs work was smarter/crazier than those kamui shenanigans in the war arc
As much as I love Sasuke, I feel like Naruto is not an idiot. In the first anime he is literally a kid! Social outcast, no friends or family, very emotionally stunted. Even in Sjippuden, he made way more friends, even before Pain destroyed the village, but he spent years with only Jaraiya around him, but Jaraiya is also very intelligent, so I feel like Naruto made up for his idiocy as a child in Shippuden!
deidara is actually very underrated
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I find it funny that a random Twitter user calls this creator a Naruto hater just because I used one of this creators videos to prove him wrong xd
title:
16 highest IQ naruto fights
what i read:
highest 16 IQ naruto fights
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Winning against Minato without over the top hax abilities is simply impossible, not only Minato's battle IQ and adaptability one of the best but his arsenal of techniques is absurdly powerful because he has both long and short range as well as defense and offense balance. Minato can make any battlefield his turf with FTG Kunais even can escape in any situation to the other part of the planet and come back in split second behind you. Even knowing this technique is not enough to win against him that's why Obito in masked man form couldn't solo him even with all the nerfs Minato received in terms of saving village, his wife and his son's birth etc.