Jared Leto: What Went Wrong?

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    Did Jared Leto Ruin Method Acting?
    Jared Leto has garnered lots of media attention for some of his recent performances, though not in a good way. But according to him, when he mails a dead pig to his co-star, he’s simply doing “method acting,” a classic tradition used by some of the best actors to ever grace our screens. So is Leto really just “going full method?” Or is he misunderstanding method acting altogether? Let’s find out in this Wisecrack Edition on Method Acting: What Went Wrong?
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  • @WisecrackEDU
    @WisecrackEDU  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

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    • @kendomyers
      @kendomyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its Morbin Time!

    • @GlennDavey
      @GlennDavey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello buddy! :D

    • @ashroskell
      @ashroskell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That Lawrence Olivier / Dustin Hoffman anecdote, whilst being a wonderful story, is apocryphal. It never happened. It began as a Peter Ustinov story, one of many semi-truths he would use to entertain audiences on talk shows, as he, like David Niven, made more money from selling books, full of Hollywood gossip and eclectic anecdotes, than he did as an actor, especially as he got older. In this case, both actors denied that rather mean jab was ever made by Olivier, who was actually a very sweet man and he and Hoffman grew very close. Hoffman constantly cries when he remembers him, as he knew Olivier was seriously ill during the filming of Marathon Man, because there had been an issue about getting Olivier’s insurance covered. They ate together and met each other’s families.

    • @I.I.I....IoI....I.I.I
      @I.I.I....IoI....I.I.I ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Wisecrack, interesting video, am a fan of your channel and definitely not a fan of Leto - his personality and all behaviour I've seen from him just makes me feel ick.
      With that said though, I can't help but question the line that mentions how certain allegations (whether credible or not, allegations = unproven claims unless I'm mistaken) are sufficient reason to judge somebody. Do you actually stand behind this? I would think it would be something you'd want to revise or perhaps word more carefully? I don't mean to be confrontational but it seems to go against the notion of 'innocent until proven guilty' and I can't help but take issue with it.
      Thank you again for your videos and any time or energy you may put into a response.

    • @Noms_Chompsky
      @Noms_Chompsky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That shot of bourbon before a shoot is technically correct, but I think you're confusing the issue even if it is in fact poison.

  • @caffeinedelusions
    @caffeinedelusions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    I'm not convinced Jared Leto is 'fully immersing himself in his character'. It seems more like his approach to his characters is based less on empathy and introspection, and more on filtering his own assholish tendencies through a character's aesthetic.

    • @kendomyers
      @kendomyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Someone like the Joker would be cloying, obnoxious and scary.
      Its not what the people want, but have you ever met a guy who regularly dresses like the Joker who was a good person to be around?

    • @birdknight6616
      @birdknight6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@kendomyers This assumes the Joker character he played was worth going that extra mile. Considering a grand total of under 15 minutes of screentime across two films, probably not. And shouts out to his performance on Morbius being the most obnoxious behavior on set imaginable, slowing down the process of filming and all for a performance where he couldn't even show sadness convincingly compared to normal ass-actor Matt Smith who outshined him in that trainwreck of a film. The idea that Jared being an asshole on set somehow improves the film is ludicrous when neither of these performances did anything to enhance the films they were in in any way- Suicide Squad was a bomb, Zack Snyder's Justice League wasn't a trainwreck saved by its post-credits cameo of Leto's Joker (it was a good movie without him!), and Morbius was turned into a memetic failure.

    • @kendomyers
      @kendomyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@birdknight6616
      DC really shit the bed. And good point: Leto's joker only got 15 minutes of screen time.
      He could have just played the OG Joker from the Batman series and gotten a better reception.
      But one point I disgree on.
      One hill I will die on: Morbius was the best movie ever!!!!1!
      ITS MORBIN' TIME!

    • @vedranavidicevic3734
      @vedranavidicevic3734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Briliant.Perfect.

    • @mbrammy7
      @mbrammy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was so good in Dallas buyers club :( you could hardly recognise him

  • @silverstarlightproductions1292
    @silverstarlightproductions1292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    Honestly, I'm more impressed with actors who can easily slip in and out of character than those who go full method.

    • @festethefool6701
      @festethefool6701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah man for real - it's a skill that even a lot of great actors struggle with too.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same! I think I'd have a harder time switching it on and off than just finding a groove and staying in it.

    • @AmandaStanley88
      @AmandaStanley88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a voice actor and I find it hard to "slip out" of feelings and moods. I don't feel immersed in the character, but if I just did a sad scene, the feeling, the sadness, is real and comes from a place of truth. So accessing that and using it as a tool for art is part of my job and when the scene's done, it's done. But I might feel a little extra vulnerable and sad the rest of the day.

    • @uosdwiSrdewoH
      @uosdwiSrdewoH ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. That's acting. Getting tear gassed to be authentic isn't acting. You're living the experience and having someone film it. I feel like I could give a good performance of a guy being tear gassed if someone through a canister of tear gas at my feet. So many people lump Heath Ledger in to that group and I've even seen people recently still saying that he was so heavily into the Joker that it haunted him and he took his own life. Nope, not even close. Yeah he locked himself away before filming to try and get into the headspace of someone that didn't really have a real world analog he could look to. Like Rosamund Pike said, at first you need to find a way in. I think people look to that first scene where he told Christian Bale to hit him as going too far but, again, that was the first day they'd worked together and they were being asked to film the most intense scene between them. Besides the fact that he was halfway through filming Imaginarium with Terry Gilliam when he passed away so clearly wasn't taking the character with him, there's also footage on set of him joking about while in full makeup. By that point he just turned it on and off which is what made him such an incredible actor and why he absolutely deserved the Oscar.

  • @Rebel8MAC
    @Rebel8MAC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    "Two time box office flop"
    Legend. How is this not a record

  • @TAP7a
    @TAP7a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting" really does sum up the whole thing doesn't it

    • @PetersonSilva
      @PetersonSilva ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Such a classy backhanded slap hahaha

  • @UnreasonableOpinions
    @UnreasonableOpinions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    Robert Pattinson really summed it all up - "I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they’re playing an a-hole. You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.”
    Method is just another theatrical technique, with merits and defects. A competent actor has to have every tool available to them to use as needed. Whenever you hear about 'method' as some Rare Special Technique, it is always from the marketing department of the film, who are using the vague mystique of it for people who have never done it as a marketing stunt. At best it's just as good as other tools - Daniel Day-Lewis uses it but there are actors just as skilled who do not. At its ugly side, it enables maniacs like Leto to be profoundly obnoxious and antisocial and blame it on Something Something Method. At its worst it can be dangerous - method is not what killed Heath Ledger, but it very obviously did not help a man in a desperate and dangerous place.

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I dunno; didn't Lewis go around pretending to be Lincoln for the duration of that movie's making? Lincoln was a nice guy I think.

    • @charliewoodruff8186
      @charliewoodruff8186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      So, as someone who studied method (a form of method anyway, there're a lot of types), you hit the nail on the head when you say that its basically just another technique. People who use it swear by it strongly (so much so that it can put people off, which I totally feel myself sometimes). I can tell you though, that there are a ton of method actors who use it to play nice people as well as a--holes. You just don't hear about them because they usually are using it more correctly than the ones you hear about because you just hear about the people who abuse it to sound like they 'really got into the character' and to give themselves the excuse to be a---holes off camera.

    • @TheCowardRobertFord
      @TheCowardRobertFord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx No, people that met him say he was just normal DDL with Lincoln's accent, the stories about it are overstated.

    • @nothingisawesome
      @nothingisawesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCowardRobertFord ok then John Proctor. That character is the protagonist of the Crucible and a decent dude...i think their point is thats not always true that its an asshole character

    • @kimi17171
      @kimi17171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So, Adrien Brody in The Pianist was a hole ?

  • @Mustachioed_Mollusk
    @Mustachioed_Mollusk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    When method acting it’s important to embody a version on your character that doesn’t want to go to jail or get punched in the face.

  • @alphamorion4314
    @alphamorion4314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Glad you talked about the whole DiCaprio thing.
    His performance in Django, I found to be absolutely *superb* ; the 'slicing the hand' was kind of an accident, but instead of yelling Cut he went with it, wich I think is pretty damn good and quick thinking from an acting perspective.
    On the Revenant, though, it was only "How much punishment can I take in order to have my Oscar".

    • @aligmal5031
      @aligmal5031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      probably the only oof thing about the hand slicing in Django was him rubbing his bloody hand in that other actress's face
      as for the revenant being how much punishment can i take in order to have my oscar i disagree with that i think he did great there + this dude is the platinum victim of the oscars the facts that he never won an oscar until the revenant was a crime

    • @Paradiselost425
      @Paradiselost425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@aligmal5031 thankfully the blood wasn’t actually his. They cleaned it up and got fake blood between cuts

    • @gustavogoesgomes1863
      @gustavogoesgomes1863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Paradiselost425 well, it wasn't oof at all then, if it was in other cut (pun not intended) it means that the actress was aware and ok with it

  • @dieseltyme
    @dieseltyme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I think Leto was a decent secondary character actor, won the Oscar, went full egomaniac, and failed the A-lister audition via public perception due to overexposure.

    • @ZachBobBob
      @ZachBobBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Totally agree with this one

  • @dlwhdtjr100
    @dlwhdtjr100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    In South Korea, Choi Min-sik(played Oh Daesu in Oldboy)was famous for his method acting. But after he played main villain in I saw the devil, he ride elevator with someone else. And he ask Choi minsik "Oh! Where are you from?" Then Choi's first thought was "Why the fxxx he talk to me like that?". He felt frightened at the thought he had made. After that happend, now he is staying away from method acting.

    • @Shinkajo
      @Shinkajo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Learn to write

    • @Legendofzedia
      @Legendofzedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Shinkajo learn to read

    • @willynilly9954
      @willynilly9954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shinkajo guy's trying his best to communicate in a non-native language, no need to be an ass about it

    • @secularmonk5176
      @secularmonk5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Where are you from?" !!!
      Man, even Koreans are racist to Asians ... smh
      /s

    • @peachdreams
      @peachdreams ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's great Choi Min-sik stopped doing it. Also your English is wonderful :) Don't let rude people get to you (who clearly can't speak more than one language as you can). 감사합니다

  • @Lfrench101
    @Lfrench101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I always love the Sir Laurence Olivier quote:
    “…have you tried acting?”

    • @lithantushelo7932
      @lithantushelo7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G.O.A.T

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Close, close. "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?" (When talking to Dustin Hoffman on the set of The Marathon Man)

    • @JasonX909
      @JasonX909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never knew that was about Dustin Hoffman. Really surprising imo, he's done a lot better in other movies. I guess he took that to heart haha

    • @lithantushelo7932
      @lithantushelo7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sephiroth144 yeah Dustin Hoffman was quite the obnoxious madman in his younger days

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It might be a controversial take but Olivier wasn’t a good film actor.

  • @Bracketmeister
    @Bracketmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    As someone who has studied the arts, I find it so weird to see what "Method" has become. One of the base principles I learned was when you enter a rehearsal room, leave everything at the door. And when you exit, leave all the art in there.
    As an actor, it's your job to become something else when performing your craft. You have to also have time as yourself.
    As touched on in this video, I believe that people that stay in character constantly are doing so because they struggle to get into and come out of character. That's what you have to do as an actor. That's how acting works.

    • @kendomyers
      @kendomyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its. Morbin. Time.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think this ability to compartmentalize one's real life vs one's professional performance life is absolutely essential in trying to maintain an actor's mental health? Particularly for young actors or for those who're portraying difficult characters.
      Human brains are good at getting confused between genuine emotion and performed emotion - see the classic motto "fake it till you make it", and how many actors end up in relationships with their co-stars following films where they play romantic partnerships! Being able to keep a gap between the personal and the professional is important for anybody, but 100% more so when your profession involves huge emotional investment in what you're doing.

    • @Absurdtheistic
      @Absurdtheistic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The way I understand it is to become your character instead of letting your character become you

  • @jewpackoshur711
    @jewpackoshur711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Surprised Jim Carrey wasn't mentioned for "Man in the moon".

    • @crothschild
      @crothschild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That wasn't acting. It was A POSSESSION oooooooooo, 👻 spooky. Or pretentious, I honestly couldn't tell which.

    • @cyro1079
      @cyro1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Love Jim btw, but boooyyyy....THAT WAS CRINGE AF.
      Impersonating as Andy Kaufman to talk good about himself (Jim Carrey) to realise your egotistical fantasy of what your idol thinks about you is one thing.
      But impersonating as Andy and talking to his daughter and then brag about providing closure to Andy's daughter as if her dead father actually came back is ANOTHER thing.

  • @morganburt2565
    @morganburt2565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    having to destroy urseld for ur art sends a dangerous message. reminds me of when ppl say you can’t be creative if ur not mentally ill. great art can come out of suffering but the process of art shouldn’t destroy the artist

    • @rav3style
      @rav3style 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can thank the fucking romantics of the 18th century for that.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This! It's like a modern version of the old stereotype that says "true" painters have to live in an attic, poison themselves with absinthe, fail in all their personal relationships and die of tuberculosis 🙄

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@capturedflame 😝 Yeah, modern artists have it much tougher! I guess the current version of the trope seems to be doing lots of coke and partying far too hard 😬 Or maybe that's just for rock musicians!

  • @memto2376
    @memto2376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    “You only ever see people do the method when they’re playing an assholes. You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.”
    - Robert Pattinson

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      R-Pats strikes me as a really good guy, from what I've heard and seen of him.

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      daniel day lewis in the last of the mohicans??

  • @frankjennings4489
    @frankjennings4489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?" is a bar right there.

  • @BurningHydrant
    @BurningHydrant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When you method the joker so hard that you become an actual joke...

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    The idea that one must become "immersed" in the character kinds suggests a lack of acting skill.
    It is sadly ironic that the impetuous to craft more realistic performances had evolved into OTT performances that are not dissimilar from the exaggerated acting it was meant to replace. In other words, Leto's Joker could easily fit into an early 20C silent film.

    • @UnreasonableOpinions
      @UnreasonableOpinions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I can understand it being more useful for film acting than theatre acting. In theatre you get the full continuity of the character every night; you come in and rev yourself up for the role, deliver the whole person, then go home. In film you may have absolutely no idea where in hell you are for filming or what scene this is meant to be, so your only real point of continuity is character. If you might be performing over 12 hours of the day in bursts of 10 seconds to 5 minutes and entirely out of sequence, I can see the merits of just getting into character and staying there versus needing to rev up for each scene.

    • @ltlbuddha
      @ltlbuddha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@UnreasonableOpinions Except plenty of great film actors do just that. Full-on performance when the camera is rolling and have a chat or read the paper between takes. AND the fact that many films are shot out of sequence whilst the character's journey through the story changes them means that "staying in character" is impossible anyway.
      There is nothing that makes "being" the character between takes anything more than a crutch. As long as one doesn't behave like an arse or idiot in the space between performances, who cares, but it remains that total immersion is like wearing "lucky" knickers; it might work because you THINK it works, but not because it actually works.

    • @milesfolley6840
      @milesfolley6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ltlbuddha you’re right and wrong. Acting does require a surrender, to immerse rather. But here’s where you’re wrong.
      Script Analysis, uncovering every moment by moment, breaking down why these words were said at this moment at this time to this particular person as this particular moment is vital. But that’s just the beginning. There is so much to uncover, and lowkey it’s really fucking exciting man.
      The problem is that sometimes one persons ego can drive him off course and make him assume because he was successful before he doesn’t have to go through the same steps. That is dangerous and acting books and teachers warn their students of this blinding path. I’ve met them at every level.
      There’s video of James Gandolfini on the set of The Sopranos, punching the door of a SUV to get back into character because he says that gets him into that place needed. And he is one of the greatest actors of the 21st Century.
      Laurence Olivier embodies your belief, but at times his expression can come off non believable, people dislike his cadence delivery. I think it’s debatable but that was a critique. Yet sometimes it’s a blessing; eg his performance in Richard III.
      But even in the “drink a tea with crumpets between takes” there is the danger of becoming a caricature, or phoney...and that is the danger from that approach.
      Essentially no matter how you do it, it’s vital to have a balance in craft and humanity, like Rosamund Pike alluded too.
      ❤️

    • @ltlbuddha
      @ltlbuddha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@milesfolley6840 Part of the balance is not being a horrible person simple because one's character is.
      Anthony Hopkins isn't method and has delivered as intense a portrayal as anything Day-Lewis has. Sidney Poitier delivered powerhouse performances without the method. Judi Dench didn't need method to...well, you get it.
      The Method is a crutch when it exists before Action or after Cut. That great actors have used it is irrelevant because great actors have avoided it as well.

  • @tylerreinhold7431
    @tylerreinhold7431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I spent 4 years studying acting and 11 years doing theater and I love/align with the take this video takes for the most part. It's worth noting that the Stanislavskis retracted a lot of his early teachings later in his life, after many of his acting students suffered mental breaks as a result of his technique. Stella Adlers launched her imagination based technique/school after visiting Stanislavski later in his life

  • @aidancarlisle5078
    @aidancarlisle5078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think Christian Bale is still doing it pretty well. He does the external stuff but I still feel like his characters are deep. Like when he became Dick Cheney I felt like I wasn’t even looking at Christian Bale.

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has to be better than actually . . . looking at Dick Cheney.

  • @eamonia
    @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    We sell Magic Spoon cereal at the grocery store I work at in New Orleans and we got to taste test 4 different types. All of which, I can personally attest were among some of the most unpleasant things that have ever entered my body in any fashion. And I've been shot TWICE.

    • @PhyreI3ird
      @PhyreI3ird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay, but _why are you still in New Orleans?_

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PhyreI3ird Well... (takes huge breath) I'm in a Reggae band that plays Friday and Saturday nights on Frenchmen St., I'm the Sargeant at Arms and head mechanic of "Bad News BC" a top 40+ members that I need to keep in line and make sure they pay monthly dues and don't abuse their prospects TOO much, I'm an FFL holder that provides protection for and trains how to properly protect themselves, their homes and family's, I like the food, I've been to 47 other states and they all pale in comparison to the insane vibrant awesomeness that you can't find anywhere else in the continental U.S, fuck the cold, the drugs are cheap and the booze runs like water, I manage the entire grocery department at the no. 1 grocery store in the Bywater, the architecture is brilliant and hundreds of years old, (did I mention the food, culture, music, people (genuinely, not like Portland or Austin "people") and nothing ever closing) and the constant, year round partying 24/7. Also, I just like it here. I moved here right after Katrina with a backpack full of clothes and a guitar and this is my home now and has been for the last 17 years and will be until I die. Oh, and I got shot in Afghanistan, dipshit.

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhyreI3ird Oh, and I can't afford to leave. I have a lot of money tied up in, well, let's just say "investments" and the economy isn't exactly doing too great at the moment. Where do you live? Do you live alone? I feel like I've opened up to you so much yet know nothing about you. Let's be friends. Unless you still live with your parents... I don't want to be your friend if that's the case.

    • @Raktasdelespacio
      @Raktasdelespacio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info, I've been curious about it for a while, not that I can buy it, as I don't live in the US. But now I can eat my regular cereal at ease....
      Also... take care, I guess.

    • @PhyreI3ird
      @PhyreI3ird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eamonia Geezus christ dude why are you so fucking serious? I was mostly making a joke cuz it seemed like you were implying that it was in New Orleans you got shot and I wanted to provide a playful way for you to talk/joke about it if you felt like it. (Not that it was conveyed in my comment for you to know, but) I understand what it's like to be financially pinned down in one area, so yea it was a joke my dude.

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Robert Downy Jr.'s performance in Tropic Thunder was CLASSIC! His character vowed to stay in character until the DVD commentary came out. And sure enough, he was in character through the whole commentary. It was hilarious!

  • @badump_bash
    @badump_bash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love the olivier quote at the end. "my dear boy, why dont you try acting."

  • @Videaprojaekt
    @Videaprojaekt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And then there is Christoph Waltz and Mads Mikkelsen who surpass most method actors simply by acting :)

  • @41tinman41
    @41tinman41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's one thing to suffer for your art and another to make other people suffer for your ego-boosting antics.

  • @helenab2520
    @helenab2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they’ve an asshole.” Robert Pattinson

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How about Daniel day lewis in lincoln and the last of the mohicans??

  • @adammarrow5980
    @adammarrow5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As an actor, stage not screen, I find the original purpose of Method acting to be nearly indispenceable. Using your own life to connect to a roll is a great thing. I see what modern screen actors are doing and on one hand I applaud them for their dedication, I do think they take it to far. To your point, I don't see them becoming the character, I see the character becoming them.

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I read somewhere that when Renee Zellweger was playing Beatrix Potter, she kept the British accent the whole time she was on set. I can understand that, because an accent can be hard to get right back into. But I'm with Robert Pattison when it comes to playing creepy characters. If you insist on the "stay in the character in real life" rule for method acting, then don't choose jerk roles.

  • @zeedar412
    @zeedar412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Leto is the D&D player sitting at the table going "but that's what my character would do" while the other players roll their eyes.

  • @reddcube
    @reddcube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've always had the inkling that "Method" acting is just a ploy from the marketing department.
    If you're having trouble marketing the movie's story, setting, or visuals... talk about the actors prep for the role

  • @lithantushelo7932
    @lithantushelo7932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I think people in general don't really understand what *acting* is on a technical or philosophical level.. they cling to catch terms they over hear like 'the method' but when you ask them about other schools of thought in terms of acting, they draw a blank because THEY JUST DON'T KNOW, I keep seeing people insist everytime they see an excellent performer, that person is a method actor, when in reality there are a myriad of approaches from a myriad of coaches and their disciples

  • @OdinOfficialEmcee
    @OdinOfficialEmcee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm glad to see Helen again. I like the dude and his Philosophy and humour, but there is something uniquely charming and pleasant about her.

    • @Raktasdelespacio
      @Raktasdelespacio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. When Jared left Wisecrack I felt distraught, I'd been following since the 8-bit era; but Helen helped to ease the transition pretty well.

    • @IsuiGtz
      @IsuiGtz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Raktasdelespacio It's the hair. The messy hair is really important. Although... Helen's hair was specially fabulous this time around.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jared Leto strikes me as the sorta actor who has seen other actors winning praise for their method acting performances, and he's *SUPER* thirsty to get some of that for himself, so he keeps trying to use method acting. What he fails to realize is the aforementioned actors didn't win all that acclaim for using method acting, they got it for the performance they gave.

    • @ocek2744
      @ocek2744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No he got it for his own acting, problem is he didn't evolve his craft beyond to other film projects, he kept with the same style ... same style doesn't work for all movie types.

  • @MelkorPT
    @MelkorPT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Method acting" became an act in itself.

  • @cyro1079
    @cyro1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Jared's acting career is a meme now.
    From his Italian caricature a la Mario in House of Gucci to "it's Morbin' time 😏".
    Which is sad, he was at his peak when he won an Oscar for Dallas Buyers Club. And it took one David Ayer movie to send his career on a downward spiral.

  • @panthercat38
    @panthercat38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Leto's ego is telling him HE can make anything a hit, instead of seeing the acting role for what it is, just a small part of a larger work of art.

  • @SeppukuDoll
    @SeppukuDoll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the difference between Daniel Day-Lewis and actors like DiCaprio and Jared Leto, is that he loses himself in the characters instead of the opposite-like you mentioned, Hugh Glass lost himself in Leo instead. I was just looking at Leonardo DiCaprio crawling through the snow.

  • @theeNappy
    @theeNappy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What Jared Letto did wasn't method acting, it was just being a creep.

  • @MakiPcr
    @MakiPcr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I heard that Henry Cavil went method for The Witcher and nobody noticed because it consisted in being nice and take care of the horses

  • @rav3style
    @rav3style 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The revenant wasn’t an acting job it was just getting abused by the elements. He didn’t act shit. He was sick, cold, etc…

  • @piranha5506
    @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I really appreciate how well-researched this video was. There is a lot of misconception surrounding method.

  • @ArtamisBot
    @ArtamisBot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Art as Pain is a zeitgeist of society - Musicians should sleep in the van; Actors should hurt themselves and others to be in character; Art should not require cutting off your ear to make something potent.

    • @TAP7a
      @TAP7a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's also a philosophical underpinning of this attitude that artists don't need to be paid if they get eXpOsUrE, and that if they dare to pursue any course of reducing discomfort or, god forbid, acquiring any amount of luxury then a musician is automatically a sellout with neither commitment nor soul.
      Many great works of art have been influenced or made possible by the suffering of their artist. That doesn't mean we should lionise the practice or use it as a reliable method to creat good art. A shitty, or even good, painter isn't going to come up with a work of greatness because they went on a 7 day meth-fueled bender during a lockup at the Windsor & Newton factory, a composer isn't going to go from having their originals ignored in the concert hall to penning the greatest symphony of the century just because they fell into alcoholism and watched their parents throw themselves off a bridge or something. An artist should never look to traumatise themselves for art because it really doesn't make the art better, it just makes their life, and that of those around them, suck

    • @rav3style
      @rav3style 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s some evidence now that Van Gogh didn’t cut his ear and that he lost it in a duel with Gauguin

    • @ArtamisBot
      @ArtamisBot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rav3style I've read that, I was more using that as a metaphor.

  • @turkoizdog
    @turkoizdog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jared Leto just wants to be Jack Nicholson: from his music video for The Kill basically reenacting The Shining to playing Joker.

  • @jeannewynneherring
    @jeannewynneherring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you!!! For years I have said what these folks were calling method acting was not true method. Just…no. So thank you for doing this video. What these people do is dangerous to their mind. And it can be dangerous to others as we have seen. When I directed I told the actors to do what they love outside of rehearsals and performances. This helps separate one from their role. So actors, please head the warning. Learn true method if you want to do method. Acting should be fun not insane!

  • @TheLacedaemonian300
    @TheLacedaemonian300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Whatever it takes for Daniel Day Lewis to do what he does is fine by me. His performances are so good that I can rewind certain scenes over again and love them more each time. His character in Gangs of New York is next level, as was his acting in There Will Be Blood. Daniel Day Lewis is the first name that comes to mind when I think 'greatest actor'.
    Christian Bale in American Psycho is another one, as is Leo DiCaprio in many movies. The dude deserves more than just one Oscar.

    • @nodiggity9472
      @nodiggity9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We need an international Daniel Day Lewis Day.

  • @hilloneko101
    @hilloneko101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    To get an experience and get the body image you feel you might actually need, yes. If it helps you get a good performance yes. For example getting tear gassed yes because I feel you really have no idea how bad it is until you do it. Doing dumb disturbing jokes because Joker. I do not think so. I understand getting yourself pumped and ready to do your job. Though if can harm and hurt others you might need to find a new way to do things.

  • @jamyangpelsang3099
    @jamyangpelsang3099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seems like Jared Leto has sort of gone the way of Nicolas Cage. Going from Oscar-worthy performances to needlessly bizarre and meme-making tendencies. But like Nicolas Cage maybe he’ll make an astonishing comeback later in his career…

  • @hunterG60k
    @hunterG60k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You're absolutely right about the hero worship of method acting these days, I hadn't even realised it had happened until you pointed it out. You could apply it to the hero characters like Thor or The Witcher having to get so big, then having to dehydrate themselves for shirtless scenes. It's not ok that people have to put their bodies through that sort of stress for a job (although I suppose the money makes it easier to bear).
    And Leo was absolutely just playing Leo in the wilderness in The Revenant. Now that you mention it, I think it's been a while since I saw him disappear into a role like he did in What's Eating Gilbert Grape, The Basketball Diaries, etc. Even in Django, I didn't forget who I was watching.
    Great video, thank you.

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thor getting big has nothing to do with method.

  • @justinbremer2281
    @justinbremer2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alice Cooper has said that the old rock stars who died young lost the ability to turn off their over the top stage persona

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah I heard Shia LaBeouf didn't wash those pits and sacks the whole entire time they were filming the movie Fury.

  • @Ben-rz9cf
    @Ben-rz9cf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anthony Hopkins, one of the greatest living actors in my opinion, was asked about method acting. He said he doesn't do method acting, because one can never truly inhabit the mind of a character, and that for him it is more of a match between him and the other actors, bouncing emotions off of them and responding to the ones they put out. The reason he is so good is because he is not ACTING, he is REACTING. Jared Leto's mindset of hyperfixating on the mindset of his characters can only result in solipsism, rendering him oblivious to the performances of the other actors and incapable of building any sort of real chemistry with them.

  • @rachel_rexxx
    @rachel_rexxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helen's delivery of snark is delightful

  • @darkangel076
    @darkangel076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the immortal words of Olivier: "Have you tried *acting*?" /insert mike drop

  • @rachumsmcone9184
    @rachumsmcone9184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Method acting can be a good tool for really stepping into the shoes of someone else, but definitely goes too far with some actors.

  • @theletterw3875
    @theletterw3875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helen has the most perfect explanatory body language I've ever seen, I think.

  • @michaelkeith5398
    @michaelkeith5398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know about the "I'm an artist" loophole. I will definitely be using that soon.

  • @Ruderickle2424
    @Ruderickle2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jared Leto singlehandedly killed the term "method actor."

  • @robber233
    @robber233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I mean phoenix's joker was actually pretty well done. Plus since the movie was completely about that character it makes sense he'd bring his A game.
    To me awards dont matter i just liked the performance.

  • @PotatoGodzilla
    @PotatoGodzilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video as always, are you planning on releasing a video on the recently released "Man vs Bee". I think it's a metaphor and many of the episodes feel like they speak on a different topic.

  • @vicmatthews7747
    @vicmatthews7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am an actor myself. This is something that I really think about all the time. I find that it’s a really interesting concept to live in a character skin to the point where you and the character are one in the same, however there is a professional line that can’t be crossed. That line gets crossed regularly and the name of method acting. I love Daniel day Lewis. He is one of the greatest actors ever for sure. But it is annoying that crewmembers have to pick you up while you’re in a wheelchair because he refused to break character. And I absolutely think Jared Leto is the worst of them. He never actually is method acting he’s giving surface level performances. There’s absolutely nothing method about it. He’s not becoming a character he’s just performing antics on an offset. There’s pretty much no justification for many of the things that he’s done in the name of the method. But like the video says about Rosamund Pike’s approach, that you can be so knowledgeable and form a deep relationship with the character to the point where you can call on that character in between action and cut. That’s the approach I adopt. But the “method” shouldn’t exist anymore. I guess “immersive” is a better description of what these guys do.

    • @vicmatthews7747
      @vicmatthews7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet I do wanna add that I respect any persons process in general as long as it doesn’t hurt or affect anyone else’s performance or well-being in a negative way.

  • @baierogers5096
    @baierogers5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The difference between proper method acting and "method acting" is becoming more easier to detect on-screen. Tony Leung is a wonderful example of a method actor who uses it as a tool to really showcase the complexity of his characters, in more nuanced yet impactful ways.
    On the WAY opposite end of the spectrum are "method actors" like Jared Leto AND Leonardo DiCaprio, who use it as an excuse to physically or psychologically abuse themselves (for Oscars) and/or their co-stars (for...whatever reason).

  • @emeraldviqueen
    @emeraldviqueen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Ian’s example is perfect. Actors like Leto use method as a crutch cuz they arent good enough to switch back and forth.

  • @onyourleft5648
    @onyourleft5648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A treat as always to hear ur thoughts Helen. Lowkey I would love for you to do more videos like the public intellectual, still the best video on wisecrack. Stylistically structurally this video is similar and good, but the subject is below your abilities imho

  • @arnahunas4048
    @arnahunas4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My favorite example of method acting is Ezra Miller being a IRL GTA protagonist to play the Reverse Flash.

  • @rodylermglez
    @rodylermglez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This bastardization of method acting is another symptom of Hollywood's creative bankruptcy.

  • @jaspervanheycop9722
    @jaspervanheycop9722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the best embodiment of "classic" method acting actually isn't Daniel Day Lewis but Anthony Hopkins. Hopkins will get in the headspace of a character so thouroughly that it sometimes scares people around him. But he doesn't do it with staying in character needlessly, instead he studies the script till he has perfect recall of the lines/timing/blocking/etc so he can fully focus on embodying the character and their physique (nerdwriter has a great video on it). He does indeed "become" Hannibal in Silence of the Lambs, to the point were he controlled his blinking, for which he studied the manurisms of real serial killers. THAT is Method, not bothering your co-stars or staying in character for no reason.

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s also close to what Brando did.

  • @uwillowu
    @uwillowu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "that's why I take a shot of poison before every Wisecrack video" Is this why they say RIP when people retire from Wisecrack? lol

  • @cuadernosdelteratologo
    @cuadernosdelteratologo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful aproach, Helen... please, you have to do more videos.

  • @bmgoliath0081
    @bmgoliath0081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Helen drank some poison before filming this?! Well she's got my vote for Best Lead TH-camr.

  • @Context_
    @Context_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You have great actors like Brando, Heath, Day-Lewis, etc whos transended the method style with their roles but some actors in modern times try to imitate and it comes off as eccentric (in or out of character) Like Jared Leto's gifts to other actors while playing as the Joker

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that's what she said. I know that's an overused trope amongst countless others but she just spent 20 minutes to convey what you just plagiarized in 30 seconds. All except that disgusting cereal add. That shit's worse than Leto's pathetic attempts at "Method Acting."

    • @Context_
      @Context_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eamonia bruh i just saw the vid on my feed, made a comment and it happened to be similar so yea

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Context_ You just did to me, what you did to her. I already said what you just said. If you can somehow find a way to capitalize off repeating what someone has already said, you're set for life. Maybe you should just start doing reaction videos on other people's reaction videos.

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eamonia chill!

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@piranha5506 Stay out of this, fish boy. Context was entirely out of "context" and you're swimming in waters with a shark, piranha.

  • @IrethEdelstein
    @IrethEdelstein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Jeremy Strong (at least in Succession) has shown you can do "method" without being a total jerk. Yes, he amuses Culkin by taking things too seriously and Cox has said several times he worries he might be burning out. But I've never seen any of his co-stars complaint about his character decisions.

  • @MSHNKTRL
    @MSHNKTRL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like the better actors internalize the Method techniques like a specific tool, rather than solely relying on Method everytime.

  • @jonveal3661
    @jonveal3661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel because it brings us gems that we didn’t know we needed. Like this 👆🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @diondavis1407
    @diondavis1407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Broey Deschanel has an amazing video on this same topic, goes a bit deeper in depth (not saying WC didn’t kill it bc when don’t they) definitely recommend

  • @Svezhaja_struja
    @Svezhaja_struja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stanislavski said: "Love art in yourself - not yourself in art".

  • @DrPOP-jp7eb
    @DrPOP-jp7eb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some actors consider "art" as almost a religious experience. And with enough narcissism, they start behaving like some weird false prophets, cult leaders or martyrs.

  • @cyro1079
    @cyro1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jared, 🤡: "I'm not someone who is loved......🙏🙌 I'M AN IDEAAA!!!!"
    Me, 😐: ok.
    F**kin' theater kids, man.

  • @jerryschramm4399
    @jerryschramm4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Edward Norton actually punched Brad Pitt in the ear, unexpectedly, in "Fight Club" on the orders of the director. Anne Bancroft threw a drink in Shirley MacLaine/s face in "The Turning Point", also without any warning on the order of the director. These are never tallied up, but Hoffman slapping Streep gets mentioned often. The terror on Alan Rickman's face was real in his death scene in "Die Hard" because he was released unexpectedly. Margaret Sullivan was traumatized before filming, being told her dog was going to be shot if she didn't perform better. Garland and Rooney were given drugs to give them energy and force them to sleep in many of their movies. Instead, we get the same, tired old stories.

    • @piranha5506
      @piranha5506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah people conjure up the same stories to support what they have already decided they think.

  • @luizotavio2116
    @luizotavio2116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just my opinion but...
    If you need to "live as your character", are you even acting?

  • @jichaeljacksoniv310
    @jichaeljacksoniv310 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching this girl explaining and the guy with the cap 🧢. Hope to see both of them more

  • @RealCoolGuy
    @RealCoolGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pretty sure Leo breaking the glass was an accident and not part of his acting decision...

  • @gudduentertains
    @gudduentertains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Method acting is cool as long as you don't end up being a**hole to other people. Method acting really ups the game.

  • @KhemistrySet
    @KhemistrySet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:44 caught me by surprise… 🤣🤣😂🤣 Great vid!

  • @avppr3451
    @avppr3451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uhul, the best presenter is back!!
    Hi Helen !👋:)

  • @RichardServello
    @RichardServello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest problem with “method” acting is that it’s not necessary for a good actor. If you have to live your life as a character to do the job, maybe you aren’t very good at your job!

  • @LimeyLassen
    @LimeyLassen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love the idea that The Aviator would have been a better film if the pee in the bottles was DiCaprio's real pee.

  • @RubeusArchos
    @RubeusArchos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good points here.. I would like see in future videos some do something on supernatural the TV show. It's deep dive in my opinion.

  • @RK-iq9uh
    @RK-iq9uh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Method has become a way for out of touch superstars to go "Look at me! Look at me!" while giving mediocre to decent performances only boosted by how many cuts they got and rats they sent. It's become (ironically) shallow compared to every other acting philosophy. They aren't playing characters, they are marketing (at least the big Hollywood actors).

  • @LightsOnTrees
    @LightsOnTrees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noooooo Helen! No poison, we've lost so much already!

  • @Gabreya
    @Gabreya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robert Pattinson is absolutely right about method acting. It's gotten to a point where it's way out of hand.

  • @arcvideo
    @arcvideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This actors perform not only to the screen audience but to the crew of film makers , it’s a privilege to work with them , instead to criticize them , and from some one who is over acting to deliver information.

  • @Argo.nautica
    @Argo.nautica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    a great ad there would be Helen literally taking a break and just eating some cereal, no words.

  • @theamazingmarlbito6293
    @theamazingmarlbito6293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ad ends at 2:05

  • @PureLionHeart
    @PureLionHeart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, I love that Pattinson quote.

  • @SexySkoChick
    @SexySkoChick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marlon Brando in the thumbnail as Stanley Kowalski 😍🔥😱🥵 screaming out STELLA! 😩 umm....yes PLEASE! 😏

  • @RichardServello
    @RichardServello 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cut a Tyler Labine film years ago…his method was to shout swear words before each take. It’s disturbing at first…but his performance was PERFECT every take. Even better than Dreyfus! But he didn’t have to live as the character. He just cleansed his pallets before a take.

  • @konstantinhrabovsky7246
    @konstantinhrabovsky7246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forget a Jim Kerry he also use Method and been some times jerk for stuff and crew

  • @TWHueyGuitar
    @TWHueyGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came here for an examination of method acting, but bait and switch occurred and it was really a video about magic spoon.

  • @yousefibrahim1436
    @yousefibrahim1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is Jared thinks that mimicking the physicality and aesthetic of the character will get him immersed enough to replicate their emotiins ,feelings and thoughts.
    For suicide squad i think the stuff he did was massively exaggerated to promote the film. If his co stars refused his behaviour he would've stopped (like in case of viola davis). He also sent poems and cupcakes. The condoms were not used they were opened. The pig was too far but the antics were definitely encouraged by the studio at the time.

  • @2Sor2Fig
    @2Sor2Fig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helen's my favorite, now that Sweets doesn't post as much.