3 Responses to Intrusive Thoughts and Religious Obsessions
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- How do we respond to these intrusive thoughts that create so much disturbance within us about our salvation, our standing with God and our sense of peace? How can we respond in a fruitful way that will actually help me overcome?
Many get stuck in their obsessions because they compulsively argue, research, debate, ruminate, seek reassurance or perform some kind of ritual to feel better. Yet they find it actually makes these obsessions grow.
The nature of intrusive thoughts in OCD is they bring a lot of anxiety, guilt, shame and accusation to our character and our standing. Today I want to share with you three approaches that have dramatically helped my OCD healing journey.
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Mark, in many MANY years of people with “training,” and the alphabet soup behind their names, there is absolutely no one who can honestly speak to these issues so intently and accurately without experiencing them. They can’t do it, you can. I thank you so much! A sister in Christ, struggling. 🙏✝️♥️
I agree. Sadly, the church has been a barren wilderness for Religious OCD sufferers. For years, I felt like the square peg around a bunch of round holes. May God raise up more faithful men and women like Mark and Melissa!
@@stevenshindler6188 Why do people blame the church, as Christians we know the battlefield is in the mind it doesnt matter what the thought is, Jesus will finish what He has started in us.
This has helped me a lot. Thksssss
I’m sixty two, and had no clue I have OCD until I started watching Mark’s videos. It’s helped my anxiety because I realize I’m not the only one struggling. Thank you Mark!! I’m learning to start listening to the Holy Spirit instead of my fear! I would not be honest if I say I do this each time I get anxious, but it does take practice and connection to God- Who wants to help us !
But i think once he saidhe did had ocd
I was crying while watching this bc you described exactly what I was going through to a tea! I feel peace today. God has answered my prayer!
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This is honestly more helpful than therapy!
I definitely have salvation OCD. I keep having thoughts about if I am truly a Christian and I want to make sure that I am saved. I have asked Jesus to be my Lord and Savior over and over again thinking that I had better be sure that I am saved.
Hi, Lola. I have been there before. Take a look at the TH-cam channel called theocast.
The Bible doesn’t say to ask Jesus into your heart, but to repent and believe.
Take a look at Romans 4. It’s not asking Jesus anything that saves us. It’s faith in His finished work-trusting that He did everything necessary for our salvation. And don’t fall into the trap of trusting in your trusting or checking to see if you’re trusting. Stop looking inward. Look outward to Jesus. I will pray for you.
Bryce
@@brycewiley1615thanks Bruce. I appreciate your help
@@brycewiley1615Bruce this is so helpful! Basically, looking outward can be best described as “Oh Jesus died 2,000 years ago for me” & moving on instead of “Do I believe Jesus died, Am I believing enough in that correctly, etc.?” We need to simplify it, like one would when looking back in the past to an event that happened in history already?
Same with me.
I feel like God is answering my prayers for help through this video. Thank you Mark
❤❤
So glad I found this channel . Compassionate explanation (with some humor 😊) of what we’re going through .
Mark, in 3 years of struggling with ocd and anxiety, I thought I knew everything about ocd. But then you came and thought me with the utmost clarity I never knew before.
Thank you, God is SO using you Mark to reach those of us who need to accept His love and grace over accusations, doubts etc. You are a gem.
Thanks so much Mark. Its so hard to remind myself of the unchanging love of god, especially when I am going up and down several times a day.
I understand
🗣Finallyyyyyyyyyyyyy 💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿 we always put God In a Box and think deliverance is one way and it's this way and its the only way, but I think God for Mark because he has allowed God to use him to show us not only the mysteries of God but God understands & cares for his children and as Mark talks I hear the voice of God speaking to me in a way where I can understand thank you so much Mark for allowing God to use you as a vessel 🤗
Wow, just wow. I feel like this has been a big blessing to me.... I feel my body relax already just after listening to this.
This has helped me never realized I have been doing these things with my thoughts. Praise the Lord for His LOVE for us!!
I can tell you have also gone through these struggles because only people who have gone through it can really understand what it’s like. You describe what I struggle with perfectly
Thanks Mark for the clearest explanation I have ever heard on how to deal with troublesome thoughts. Your resources are helpful beyond words. So grateful for you and your ministry.
I am wishing you a very joyful and relaxed weekend. Make fruitful your free days. Best weekend wishes for you! I know it has been a tiresome week. The weekend ...
Amen! No doubt the Lord is using you to help me understand and heal from father wounds… and receive the FATHERS love! What a great gift - missy
So much of my battle comes from my mom and how I grew up (emotional abuse and trauma). I am so afraid of hurting or doing the same to my infant daughter.
Recently, I heard someone say that their greatest strength is that they have become a woman that would have protected them. Tonight, I sat and watched my baby play, and I realized how much she looks like me. And I imagined myself scooping up my young self and giving that little baby a big, safe, protective hug.
By God's grace, I will raise my daughter in love and safety and joy. And maybe this will help heal "little me," too.
Mark, I dont know that you'll see this, but like so many others, I'm thankful for your ministry. Thank you so much. God bless you and your family.
You can discipline your child too don't be too easy on your child
Guys please pray for me to be free from panic attacks I had a bad one yesterday in the car my Hands were paralyzed shut and my chest and stomach really tight
Praying for you! May God comfort you with His peace and an overwhelming sense of His presence, drowning out each and every fear. In Jesus' Name, Amen 🙏🏾
I had a panic attack too, last night in the bathroom for like 2 hours, it felt like my throat was going to close on me and I was so tired it felt like I could’ve just passed out at any moment. It terrifies me. It almost feels like depersonalization in a way with a lot of anxiety. It feels like I was in some sort of stupid depressing cartoon.
@@jamescapb3795 yeah I know exactly what you mean , really depersonalization
@@asijahjett2904 Reminding myself that “God has not given me a spirit of fear, but of love, peace and a sound mind” has helped me yeaterday a bit. Every time the anxiety wanted to come back, I just said that verse out loud and it helped.
I’ll be praying for you🤍❕
Thank You Lord for this channel 🙏
These thoughts and compulsions are driving me crazy. Nonstop arrows or thoughts.😢😮😢😮😢😮😢😮😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Thank you. Lord for Mark ! He always shows the Love of the Father .
Im so tyred of that, for more of 23 years dealing with that issue, im trying so hard, I can’t do that by myself, I need God’s help!! 😢
❤❤❤ you are not alone 😊
Thank you, Mark! Being raised as a very legalistic Catholic, all I do is check off my inadequacies. Your videos perfectly address where OCD plays into Faith. ❤
This is so helpful I feel guilty I didn’t even have to pay
So good and so beneficial! I feel like God brought me back around to your videos over the last couple of days. He knew I needed them greatly! God bless!
You are a Godsend ……Thank You, Thank You! 😊
Thank you I truly truly needed this. You and your words are a blessing!
The best way for me to describe Scrupulousity is you have a bad sliver in your skin and you pick at it and no matter how many pick at it. The sliver stays under your skin until you get those tweezers and pull it out. I've actually had this happen to me.
You have helped me more than I can say. My degree is In psychology but your help comes from experience. I am so grateful for you!
So gooood. Helped calm me down a bit this morning. Recovering from a depressive episode I had last night and carried on through today.
Broooo, the "interpreter" thing you stated, that's on point. Thank you for this! You are a blessing in the way you edify believers. Thank you🙏 May God continue to bless you in Jesus name🥲
I’ve been having lots of blasphemy thoughts against God. This is terrible I ask myself how can I be a Christian and have these thoughts. I don’t want the thoughts I HATE THEM! One minute I feel i like I got it under control and the next I’m back to spinning again asking myself all sorts of questions. This is no way for a person to live. It causes a lot of confusion as well. I have ocd and anxiety.
I have it too, your not alone. Gods faithfulness is beautiful. Perspective is so important. The thoughts are horrible though. I was upset yesterday and last night thinking about some of them. They hit me first thing in the morning and don’t ever seem to let up. It’s very uncomfortable. I don’t even really want to be around kids anymore because of them and at the moment I’m not sure how I can get over it. They can be convincing. God always comes through though. Lean on the promise that God will use this for our good and let us not lean on our own understanding. We have other brothers and sisters who are right there with us. Just think (and I want to try doing this too) whenever you are having a bad moment with these thoughts and exhaustion/ confusion/worry/ anger start really trying to dig into you, there are other brothers and sisters, who at that exact moment you are I’m sure, and moving through the same resistance too. It will be okay.
YOUR LITERALLY NOT ALONE I STRUGGLE WITH BLASPHEMOUS THOUGHTS AND ANXIETY AND ALSO I HAVE PTSD AND IM JUST SO TIRED OF THESE DEMONIC THOUGHTS I GET WORRIED AND SCARED AND ANXIOUS I CANT EVEN GO OUT AND SOCIALIZE CAUSE OF THESE THOUGHTS I HAVE TO BE HOME TO FEEL SAFE
Hi just wanted to see how y'all are doing today with these thoughts as I get them as well. I get them just about everyday
I too have these types of thoughts that disgust me. I recommend seeking help.from a qualified Christian therapist and psychiarist. And ALWAYS remember we serve a loving, understanding, and forgiving God.
Thank Your Mark DeJesus! This is such great truth and helpful to me. You understand and I am grateful for this content. You've described me in a lot of ways lol. It was relieving to hear about compassion, staying calm and grace. Thank you for phrasing that I can anchor myself in love.🙌🏽🙏🏽💕
Mark, your channel is an absolute blessing! I’m beyond grateful to have found such excellent teaching on mental health from a Biblical perspective.
I think that person was really jealous, and was insecure. I'm an insecure person too. I'm going through your heart healing journey book. Thank you Mark for your love.❤
Peace and Love
Sounded more like a Scottish accent Which is very hard to do
I would just like to say I have been on the journey at least two years I keep going back to his books and podcasts. I can’t thank him and the Lord enough
So many people just don’t understand Bless him and Melissa I’ve come so far
I will give him a big hug when we meet in heaven Bless everyone on this journey You are doing amazing work Mark 🏴💕
Amen! Thank you! Glory to God!
Thank you so much, this really helped me. God bless you
You are so good, I have listened to a couple of podcasts of yours in past couple of weeks and it is so balanced and helpful. You know it’s funny, but the past 2 weeks, all I have heard in my mind is a old secular song, please be gentle, please be kind, , a good heart is hard to find. This chorus of words I believe the lord has used over and over again in my mind to help me not berate myself. Thankyou for doing this.
Amen I love it!!! Thank you JESUS!!!
Do you have any videos on quieting the mind/racing thoughts? It's like my mind endlessly chatters.
I’ve been wondering the same thing!!
Your trying to sound British really got me😂😂😂
I am wishing you a very joyful and relaxed weekend. Make fruitful your free days. Best weekend wishes for you! I know it has been a tiresome week. The weekend ...
God bless you! Glory to God
I'm glad I've found this video
Didn't no. That they were so many people who had this I'm with you take care of yourself. Thanks mist. From Lancashire England UK pendle witches country fantastic
Take less notice of these troublesome thoughts. This may help a person with OCD/Scrupulosity. Focus on daily Prayers. God give us Graces, use them.
FYI A wonderful Saint. My patron Saint Gemma Galgani. Characteristics of having OCD/Scrupulosity
Mark thanks it helps Can you give a teaching on addiction to Court cases.Its frustrating the hell out of me to see injustices! I WANT TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND THERE ARE SO MANY LIES AND SLIMY DEFENCE LAWYER CHANNELS ONLINE NOW. HAS CONSPRACY THERIES AND FEAR REACHED ALL THESE PEOPLE. GOD HELP US!!!😢😢😢😢😢
I love this, thank you so much🤗🎁
Thank you Mark.
I’ve been having wicked sexual thoughts. I’m so afraid. It makes me think I am like mark said a sexual deviant. And just spiralling out of control. I keep looking at people to make sure I don’t have these thoughts but they keep coming. I also had an episode of sleep paralysis today which I haven’t had in a while and was tempted to sin. This is awful…I’ve been so anxious. I just want to be delivered from this. Jesus, I know you hear me✝️🩷
Recently I had this thought/phrase pop in my head which was “I reject thee God”. What really freaked me out was that I had this feeling like a weight was lifted off of me and I’m afraid if that’s the Holy Spirit leaving me.
If you do not truly belive the thought, it is just an intrusive thought. It doesnt mean you want it, you probably actively reject that idea and know its not true. The holy spirit will never leave someone who wants it in them.
I have similar intrusive thoughts and I know God loves and forgives me. He loves and forgives you too. Don't let the intrusive thoughts/OCD win. Ask God to help you and accept his love. Wishing you peace and blessings.
GOD IS GOOD
You’re truly amazing and a gift from god
Mine is bringing me to tears this morning 😢
So helpful thankyou
I have OCD for 28 years from age 4. I know it will never get better and I've yet to hear ANYONE mention how the thoughts manifest when you ignore them. I was hoping they'd fade but instead they pop up in real life and that freaks me out back to OCD. It's a bizarre connection with the universe and idk how to navigate when the moment I try to be free from OCD the universe tries to harm me and trust me it's happened far too often for it to be a coincidence....scares me because I do not want any harm to come to me or anyone. I want everyone safe. Idk what to do.
I’m sorry you’re going through this. OCD is awful. But I just want to let you know that the universe doesn’t care about you. The only who cares about you is the God who made the universe and made you. Have you ever read the Bible? If not, I’d read through the book of John. It’s amazing. Even if the issues I have don’t go away, I know in Heaven I will be made completely perfect in my mind. But Heaven is only achievable through believing in Jesus Christ✝️🩷
I’m working on starving the compulsions for my health anxiety.
Me too, Kyle. So hard to do...
Loved it. Jesus spoke not a word
Thank you so much for this ❤
Yes to T shirts😄
This information is amazing thank you🙏
Good stuff!!!
Thank you so much ❤
Wow, good one!
Been spinning over my blood pressure lately.
多謝！
Anointing of God. Alphabet soup behind your name. I vote for the first.👍
I am wishing you a very joyful and relaxed weekend. Make fruitful your free days. Best weekend wishes for you! I know it has been a tiresome week. The weekend ...
Does anyone have any advice for embracing and deflecting OCD intrusive thoughts about hell? I'm having a really hard time just saying "Fine" to them, and my struggle over it is making it all worse.
I have salvation ocd I’ve been dealing with since January of this year. Also having perverse intrusive thoughts about my family and the Lord. I am on two different medications now. All I can do is tell myself that I knew I was saved before this happened to me and God is not the author of confusion. Hopefully one day He will heal me of this. Suffering with extreme anxiety and depression. The meds have calmed it some.
@@dinasophia9440 well, it’s a journey. No body has perfect assurance of salvation, everyone has unbelief, all we can do is ask God for help with it.
I’m sorry about what you’re going through, I’ve had it for a long time too.
I keep clinging to God love, I mean he died for sinners, I’m a sinner, so he died for people like me and you.
Don’t give up. Take it slow and easy, be patient and kind to yourself. ❤️
God is kind and loving, he’s near even when we can’t see it.
Two things that my husband is always faithful to remind me, and it was doubly helpful to hear Mark voice one of these specifically:
1. People who aren't saved don't care if they are or aren't. One of Mark's most helpful points for me was to highlight that our OCD struggles usually "attack" the things that mean the most to us.
2. Like 2 Timothy says, when we are faithless, He (Christ) remains faithful.
Praying for you guys and ask that you pray for me, too. I'm only just recently finding a name for something I've struggled with for so long: scrupulosity. And just in that on its own, God has given me so much comfort. My battle has a name. And their are other brothers and sisters fighting it with me. What a gracious and merciful God we serve who works truths like Genesis 50:20 in us...bringing about the saving of many lives.
God bless you all and your families! And God bless Mark and his.
I feel like God has commanded me or told me who I am going to marry, but I am not around that person hardly ever nor do I talk to them at this present time, and would like to pursue another girl. I feel guilty as if I’m disobeying God.
OCD or God?
Sounds like you are experiencing relationship OCD. Mark experienced it too and just did a live last week to discuss that! I think it might encourage you. 😊
@@katiesanders96 thank you Katie!!
@@trevormorgan6055 You’re very welcome! 😊 Mark answers a question very similar to yours in that video!
Can you make a video about toxic self talk ( inner dialogue) and how to heal that
Tons of that already available. markdejesus.com/lovingyourself/
Since young I was afraid God would leave me. Now at 86 I have felt God left me after terrible thoughts began actual thoughts came like I had said them. Is this OCD?
God never leaves you, although I know how intense this feeling can be. The fact that you are afraid he could, and think about it, shows that you are still believing in him. Jesus paid the price for your thoughts and you are washed pure 🌟
@@lukastheprussian4465 Thank you, I was driven many times for the voice in my head. I would do it, but under a lot of guilt if I did not. I was driven when I do it and guilt if I did not! Can OCD bring blasphemous words to our mind?
@@jeanneschwartz8663 Yes it does. OCD always affects subjects that are very important for you, for example being saved, being in peace with god, being free from sin etc.
I was going through the same and still do, starting with an obsession over me being chosen or not, then about the unpardonable sin, having thoughts that insult god or that I could be contaminated with evil. The subjects always change, but the problem behind all of that is an emotional wound, maybe a lack of love and safety in your life. I would encourage you to learn in all these struggles that gods love is there even if you have these kind of thoughts 🙂
@@lukastheprussian4465 you have no idea how God has used you today. I've been anxious about God leaving me because of my sin. I have salvation OCD. Your commentary and advice on this has been extremely helpful for me. Praise God! Matthew 11:28-30
Yes, OCD used to give me blasphemous thoughts almost constantly.
I’d go to church, and just like a constant loop on playback I’d hear “F-God” over and over in my mind. This caused me so much mental torment and distress, I’d panic so bad. The Bible says that he has not given us a spirit of fear, and these “blasphemous” thoughts create no less than manifested fear. The enemy wants to deceive you, to make you think these are somehow your thoughts, they’re not. God knows your heart, the fact that these thoughts would cause such concern (inner turmoil) is a good indication it’s not your heart, it runs contrary to who you are, and what you believe. The devil is the “accuser”, he wants us to believe we’ve somehow committed the unpardonable sin, that’s just it though… HE committed that unpardonable sin, NOT YOU, and NOT I. Don’t fall for his deception. His only tongue, his only language are made of lies and deceit. Those voices in our heads can get so extremely loud sometimes, because they demand our attention… however, YOU are in control of just what attention you care to give them of your time, and you can choose not to believe them, much in the same fashion you can choose to believe the wonderful things God says about you. Don’t be afraid of the “blasphemous” torturesome thoughts, just laugh them off and get along with your day, and eventually you will overcome them. I got over those fearful thoughts long ago (like 12+ years ago), because I realized it just wasn’t me. You can overcome them too, just don’t give them importance, know who you are in Christ. I still get those thoughts from time to time, and just laugh them off at this point, they no longer affect me because I know from where they originate, and it isn’t me. I love my God, but my enemy doesn’t love the God within me, and that’s why he wants to convince me that I too feel his disconnect, but that isn’t truth. Don’t beat yourself up, let those thoughts come, do NOT fight them, it will only make your feelings about them worse, ultimately making the thoughts about you having blasphemed God, worse.
Rest assured you have NOT blasphemed God, and that your salvation is secure.
Hi
I don’t know how many times I’ve received Christ 😂 maybe 1,000 times. I’m extra saved now 😂
Mark, how about intrusive images? Does it apply the same as intrusive thoughts?
yes
@@marktdejesuswhat if you say out an intrusive thought when arguing with the thoughts 😢
@@victoriamulengula212 I've done that a few times unintentionally and by accident without even realizing I've done it. Just repent and talk to God. He knows they were not yours. He just wants you to not hide it from Him and He will forgive you. He is our Father and loves us very deeply! His Grace, love, mercy, peace, understanding and forgiveness surpasses ALL understanding! It happens and He knows it's not your fault. I hope this comforts you some. May God bless you and keep you! He is your refuge and mighty fortress and deliverer. God bless you in the most PRECIOUS name of Jesus I pray. Amen. 🙏❤
I had an intrusive thought, and gave into it and said it in my mind. How do i undo that.
You don't.
@marktdejesus thanks for replying. I feel unforgivable by God, it's the worst feeling. I thought he had an unclean spirit, the worst thought I've ever had. I've been having negative thoughts when it comes to Jesus, God and the holy spirit. Makes me feel like I've committed the unforgivable sin. I feel like killing myself, life is not worth living without God in it.
@@sammy123960how are you doing in the moment?
@Oli_1996 struggling with the thoughts..the thoughts have gotten worst but I know the battle is not mine...it was the Lords..but I know these thoughts are not mine..its not how I truly feel about Jesus..its just the devil playing with me..
@@sammy123960 I know what you are going through. Got the same problem for a longer time now. It is right what you have written. Unfortunately we take this thoughts, thinking that has to mean something and it is getting worst. In a text I have read was written, that the devil uses our flesh to get this thoughts because our flesh is still in the position to grab the thoughts. But - here is maybe a good but - BUT Jesus was never in the sinful nature, so the devil had no attachment point founded in Jesus in his temptation to plant these thoughts in the head of our Lord Jesus. He (Jesus) answerd with logic and scriptures in the power of the Holy Spirit, when He was in the desert. He has finished everything already for you and me!
When he had received the drink, Jesus said, ‘It is finished.’
John 19, 30
Greets from Germany and sorry when something is incomprehensible, my English is not the best.
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Mark, your English accent is twrrible...Your message however,is fantastic...Sorry, I had to troll!