The 85 is better than the 42. It has ball bearings so it’s a lot smoother, and it has a magnetic latch so it will never need to be replaced. The 42 is cast titanium so it has more imperfections.
I still dont see the need for s30v steel. Most people dont cut boxes with $600 balisongs. Recreate the 42 and they will sell like hotcakes, an anniversary edition with thrust bearings if possible.
Agreed. It would retail for much more that 300. A Benchmade 63 goes for 375 so if they actually brought back the 42 it would go for around 400$ give or take. The 42 was a GODLY flipper when it was new and forward but nowdays there are options that is better flippers. It was the best for its time but now its just overrated.
You are 100% wrong i have this knife number 20 out of 400 and i use this at work to cut the plastic and tape off pallets every single day and its still sharp 3 years after i got it
BHQ, love you guys for doing this, I had zero interest in this knife until you guys made this video and did an awesome interview and editing job. You guys even got some flipping footage. Thanks guys great job
I just bought one. Got it from the factory shop. My favourite knife by far. For everyone who complains about price - go buy a Kia. For everyone who complains about new design - go get a flip phone.
I get the price, and while I might not really agree with it I don't think they're insane or anything. I just don't think that introducing a $600 bali in this market is appropriate or competitive. BRS is putting out models that, while not cheap, are definitely doable for most of the casual-to-serious level community. This is simply not that. Basically, it looks like a really well designed knife, but I don't know who it's marketed towards. The back half says high end bali, the front side says mid tier edc, and the price says full custom.
Right now you can get it off bladeHQ for $450 which I think is reasonable and I would buy it right now if not for the fact that I don’t even have a live blade or anything aside from a $5 trainer off amazon and i might regret not buying it later because I really like the 87 but I’m getting off track personally I like the 87 at least the look and concept of it I’ve never seen one in real life or flipped one but $450 seems reasonable to me for what it is considering how expensive and hard to do titanium is
I actually really like this knife. I would buy one if I wasn’t on a budget in a second. With that said i am all for bringing back the 42. I just don’t see how you can compare the 42 to stuff like the replicant. I’ve flipped both, and am admittedly a novice, but I’d take the 42 my buddy had over a Rep any day.
Balisong community: Hey what are the materials? Bench made: 440c stainless steel. Balisong community: oh, not bad. What are the handles? Bench made: Titanium :D Balisong community: *facepalm*
510-600$ for a "Performance" Bali? Nah...that's a "collectible" price. 275-400$ is a "performance" Bali price... we buy performance for the sake of smoothness and therefore hopefully dropping it on the ground less. But we're still flippers. We are GOING to drop it every now and then. 510-600$ is not something you drop and pick up like it's no big deal... Still wish I could have it. But the price is far more than any relevant flipper is willing to pay. IMO
PizzaStuffs Well they put a lot of money on material, research, marketing, and so on. They use high quality machinery to make the knife and remember that it's a big chunk of Titanium and they gotta make so money to pay the bills. (And remember that it's U.S.A. made)
DabidMN look... stop spreading hate on other. Benchmade is a great compagny who made good knife (Benchmade 42, The 940 Osborne, the Griptilian, the mini-griptilian and so on) don't deserve to have people bashing on them because the knife is 600$ If you can't affort it, no problem, but if you come and spread hate when you never handle it, that's not okay.
I love my 87. It's milled handles are better than the cast 42 handles. Why buy a 42 that's probably a clone when you can get this. No bladeplay in mine. People act like the 42 is the only bali benchmade made back then. I have all the 30 series bali's and they are cool but the hype is overrated. The 87 is simply their best bali to date!
im not really able to justify spending 450-600 on a balisong. i flip my balis i dont really use them(what most people do anyway). i am interested in flipping it. maybe try a pass around or something. but i cant say its better or not. personally i prefer brs a bit more but im open to try new knives. i bitched a lot when i saw the msrp. but if that is what its worth so be it. all i care for is the flippability. and since dave said it flipped like a rep(rep is my favorite flipper at the moment) it made me more interested in the 87.
Wow, now that's a butterfly knife. I am just a novice who opens and closes mine. But to watch that guy work this knife to what it can do was way impressive. By the way what was that big honking cigarette lighter looking thingy in the middle of the table that no one addressed?
going to have to save some coin to get one to replace my EDC, which I purchased in 1988 or 1989. Yup, I am one of the lucky few that still own a model 42.
so yes we all wanted a titanium bali but not this ill still get one tho this might sell more if it was styled like 4x series billet handle and ball bearings idk about the magnet latch looks cool tho id pay 1000+ if it was like that cant waint to get my hands on one
Yes the 42 is amazing. But it's reached a God level of hype and such. If they were to bring it back one it wouldn't be special anymore and two it will never live up to the crazy amazing stigma around it.
Also, Benchmade, since you’ll read my comment and all, the Chinese clone market sells 42s like fucking crazy. And there are some GOOD clones out there. Twenty bucks on DHgate and a little tuning and I’ve had some really nice ones.
Oh man. This thing looks serious. I've wanted a Benchmade 43 for like 15 years. Do they still make those? I have a Morpho from when they were first released around...2004? Great knife, not an easy flipper though.
I have always wanted one, and just recently got my first Benchmade Balisong; it's an old lightly used 48s, with partial serrations, hidden hardware, and the balisong stamp, etc. Do you have any information about it? I've tried to do some research and only come up with they are rather scarce and rare. Second question: Will the compression pouch ever be sold independently as an accessory?
Damn, this comment section has a lot of bitching. There are so many considerations that make the knife as expensive as it is. It's MSRP too. More places are going to sell it for 510. Amazing blade steel, the manufacturing process is expensive with machining tools wearing down on titanium and the time it takes to do it, innovative latch, ball bearings (hoping this reduces handle play). All things considered, this is a premium knife. Bali flipping is an expensive hobby to get into, if you've been around, you wouldn't be surprised seeing amazing knives sell for close to 400, 450. And the 4x series is overrated, don't bring it back. It's design is outdated and outclassed by current performance balisongs. Calm the fuck down, people
mrblue251 couldn't have said that better myself!! People need to stop bitching that obviously have no idea the cost that actually goes into producing these knives. Its true that u are paying for the name on the knife but that Benchmade name means that ur gonna get some of the best quality around as far as steel, construction, and attention to detail. Like he mentioned in the video that Benchmade is in the upper echelon of knife manufacturers bc of those reasons that I listed.
I bet this knife costs maximum 60$ to Benchmade. The proof will come in some months when the Chinese guys will start to sell it for 50$ (with the same quality).
I love the blade shape and handle design, but I will not buy it cause the price. Spending $600 from retail or $510 from Blade hq website, I will rather choose BRS or Microtech techyon III. At least I can save more money for other stuff.
Fear has kept me from owning a Balisong / Butterfly knife, and I expect that will not change in the near future. I might as well juggle running chainsaws while riding a unicycle blindfolded on a high wire over a minefield.
yeah but magnets themselves dont actually last forever. They lose it over time from drops and even higher temps, is there a way to replace the magnets?
I love the methods of construction. But I hate the design. Definitely seems to go after the BRS fans but misses on all the points that make BRS special. And I personally would have never used bearings and simply done bushings.
Looks like they maybe found a piece of scrap cardboard left over from a cut test and said, “well, there’s a blade shape for our top-of-the-line balisong.”
I thought the whole reason they discontinued the 42 was because of the price of titanium...so why are they making this full titanium piece of shit instead of the 42???
I really thought that this was going to be a bad knife, even tho I was hoping otherwise. But, a channel that flips like a Rep. I'd still rather wait for a Rep drop, but I see this being a good knife.
So it's that expensive because they waste a whole bunch of titanium grinding it from a billet? When people just want the 42 back? Benchmade, what the hell are you doing?
It's still a waste. You can't get every little scrap. Also, my big point is the fact that people really just wanted them to continue with the 42 design. Not make a totally different one. I realize Benchmade wants to be modern, but most of their customers don't want modern designs, it seems.
I had a 42 previously and I thought it was the shit but now that I have the 87 I kinda think the 42 was a bit of a dog by comparison. Having said that I still miss it. I think it would be cool to see a updated 42 with bearing pivots and a magnetic latch with s30v blade steel.
that is decent steel but not that great. i expected a v-10 or h1 steal for that price. but for a bali maybe the prices are different i usually only get folders. i do like the razor blade shape. like a wharncliffe or a razel
Can they make a system so we can fully customize a knife that is 500 dollars and lower. Handle metal Bearing or washer Blade steel Blade shape Handle shape Latch style Handle and blade length (to a reasonable degree)
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Bring the 42 back.
Moo-hyun Roh bring moo-hyun roh back
All I wanted was a proper 42. Come on now, Benchmade.
Yeah, what the fuck?
Hanming Shi you should have been into balisongs earlier then you dumb ass
um... you're not the brightest syracruse
I had one and sold it a few years ago not realizing it was discontinued... I'm an idiot.
The 85 is better than the 42. It has ball bearings so it’s a lot smoother, and it has a magnetic latch so it will never need to be replaced. The 42 is cast titanium so it has more imperfections.
I still dont see the need for s30v steel. Most people dont cut boxes with $600 balisongs. Recreate the 42 and they will sell like hotcakes, an anniversary edition with thrust bearings if possible.
yepp lol. people would probably buy pairs of the 42 if they remade it.
9999plato AMEN....
Agreed. It would retail for much more that 300. A Benchmade 63 goes for 375 so if they actually brought back the 42 it would go for around 400$ give or take.
The 42 was a GODLY flipper when it was new and forward but nowdays there are options that is better flippers. It was the best for its time but now its just overrated.
You are 100% wrong i have this knife number 20 out of 400 and i use this at work to cut the plastic and tape off pallets every single day and its still sharp 3 years after i got it
Whoever put the windows error noise over 2016 is a legend
remaster the 42
Plz
They cant thanks to the iraq war
Nate's model reveiws etc. but they can make the 87?
jaden gutierrez they won’t be able
to make it the same price because of the titanium in armored vehicles
Remanster deez nuts
BHQ, love you guys for doing this, I had zero interest in this knife until you guys made this video and did an awesome interview and editing job. You guys even got some flipping footage. Thanks guys great job
You're very welcome. Our videographer, Jamie was up until all hours of the morning to get this out to you quick, so we're glad you liked it. -Ben
its like you guys knew exactly what we wanted to see. I looked forward to more videos like this guys peace
hahahaha
Nah the 42 is overrated
I just bought one. Got it from the factory shop. My favourite knife by far. For everyone who complains about price - go buy a Kia. For everyone who complains about new design - go get a flip phone.
I'm stoked about this
dude, much better now that we actually get to see it, I'm Pumped bro
Big Brown Guy right seems thinner then I thought and wider in profile but I think that blade shave is growing on me
I get the price, and while I might not really agree with it I don't think they're insane or anything. I just don't think that introducing a $600 bali in this market is appropriate or competitive. BRS is putting out models that, while not cheap, are definitely doable for most of the casual-to-serious level community. This is simply not that.
Basically, it looks like a really well designed knife, but I don't know who it's marketed towards. The back half says high end bali, the front side says mid tier edc, and the price says full custom.
Right now you can get it off bladeHQ for $450 which I think is reasonable and I would buy it right now if not for the fact that I don’t even have a live blade or anything aside from a $5 trainer off amazon and i might regret not buying it later because I really like the 87 but I’m getting off track personally I like the 87 at least the look and concept of it I’ve never seen one in real life or flipped one but $450 seems reasonable to me for what it is considering how expensive and hard to do titanium is
I actually really like this knife. I would buy one if I wasn’t on a budget in a second. With that said i am all for bringing back the 42. I just don’t see how you can compare the 42 to stuff like the replicant. I’ve flipped both, and am admittedly a novice, but I’d take the 42 my buddy had over a Rep any day.
Seriously why can't they just make the 4x series
*the 4x series with ball bearings
Jackson Porter The 4x series is overrated. Current balisongs are much better in performance and quality.
It looks nicer than I thought. ID flip it, wouldnt buy it tho.
Your tutorials have brought me from the standard opening to my current challenge: the Kiss Goodbye. You're the best Calvin
Leis! Of course you are going to buy it.. You have probably already made a down payment on the knife at Bladehq.com
CalviNNation learned a lot of Bali moves from you a long time ago man thanks!
Me too
When Bear Ops and Benchmade collab on a box-cutter...
How are you everywhere that involves knives?
haaha so fn true and for only 600
Balisong community: Hey what are the materials?
Bench made: 440c stainless steel.
Balisong community: oh, not bad. What are the handles?
Bench made: Titanium :D
Balisong community: *facepalm*
440c is trash tho
Topkek kek not with a proper heat treatment...
love the blade shape, hope they make a cheaper non titanium version
Knowing dropping magnets makes them weaker I wonder if the latch will hold its charge after being dropped a bunch of times.
I have the exact same concern.
That blade is so wacked out that it's actually awesome. Good upload!
510-600$ for a "Performance" Bali? Nah...that's a "collectible" price.
275-400$ is a "performance" Bali price...
we buy performance for the sake of smoothness and therefore hopefully dropping it on the ground less.
But we're still flippers. We are GOING to drop it every now and then.
510-600$ is not something you drop and pick up like it's no big deal...
Still wish I could have it. But the price is far more than any relevant flipper is willing to pay. IMO
ninh s w
ninh s Bro HOM Knives are flippers and they are about $500
Id cry. I cried when i dropped my first pm2 lol
I just discovered the knife I'll be saving up for 😊
Julian Williams Yeah me too...the Replicant, the Alpha Beast, or the Basilik. Or maybe a Flytanium morpho...
@@SUBtRONiX213 Why not all of them...
Ill rather eat and pay my bills
Not me because it's a incredible knife
Vinuk57TV no, no no. It is way to much money for something that had no effort put into making.
PizzaStuffs Well they put a lot of money on material, research, marketing, and so on. They use high quality machinery to make the knife and remember that it's a big chunk of Titanium and they gotta make so money to pay the bills. (And remember that it's U.S.A. made)
+Vinuk57TV research. Cute. You're giving them more credit than they deserve. The only Balisong company that deserves money is BRS.
DabidMN look... stop spreading hate on other. Benchmade is a great compagny who made good knife (Benchmade 42, The 940 Osborne, the Griptilian, the mini-griptilian and so on) don't deserve to have people bashing on them because the knife is 600$ If you can't affort it, no problem, but if you come and spread hate when you never handle it, that's not okay.
bring the 42 back cmon
MAKE A NEW 42!
I'll buy one for sure once they offer a different blade shape. Balis are stabby stabby no slashy slashy
The pinging noise, and the blade are amazing. I love the sound of titanium pinging.
Still like the alphabeast more, magnetic latch is cool tho
bring the 42 back!
I love my 87. It's milled handles are better than the cast 42 handles. Why buy a 42 that's probably a clone when you can get this. No bladeplay in mine. People act like the 42 is the only bali benchmade made back then. I have all the 30 series bali's and they are cool but the hype is overrated. The 87 is simply their best bali to date!
Not a huge bench made guy but that knife looks badass
That guy dave is insane! Great skills!! Love the vids
Just bring the 42 back there is no beating it
fuck if you can mill out an 87 you can start milling 42s instead of casting them
BRS Replicant, Barebones, and Alpha Beast are better!!! The Benchmade 51 Morpho with Flytanium scales are better
"These knives are better than the 87!"
-Guy who has never flipped an 87
barebones sucks, worst purchase EVER
im not really able to justify spending 450-600 on a balisong. i flip my balis i dont really use them(what most people do anyway). i am interested in flipping it. maybe try a pass around or something. but i cant say its better or not. personally i prefer brs a bit more but im open to try new knives. i bitched a lot when i saw the msrp. but if that is what its worth so be it. all i care for is the flippability. and since dave said it flipped like a rep(rep is my favorite flipper at the moment) it made me more interested in the 87.
@Paul Taylor definitely agree.
+Judd You don't even know that yet. Besides, the Barebones hardware is kinda garbage.
Beautiful knives, absolutely phenomenal
Love the overall design and blade shape. But I'd still go for a Tachyon 3 for the price.
Love it the wharncliffe blade is sweet
REALLY GREAT JOB GUYS!!! looks like a nice piece
the 87 and the 85 seem to be some sick shit i hope to own one someday
What's that black box on the table
Wow, now that's a butterfly knife. I am just a novice who opens and closes mine. But to watch that guy work this knife to what it can do was way impressive. By the way what was that big honking cigarette lighter looking thingy in the middle of the table that no one addressed?
that is a microphone
what a beautiful knife
going to have to save some coin to get one to replace my EDC, which I purchased in 1988 or 1989. Yup, I am one of the lucky few that still own a model 42.
I hope that it at least comes with different blade options
Please just produce the 42 ,_,
It better be S125v at that price point.
Herb Toker M390
Herb Toker I like M390 because it has a better corrosion resistance than S125V. Still a great steel though.
That dude has some skills.
so yes we all wanted a titanium bali but not this ill still get one tho this might sell more if it was styled like 4x series billet handle and ball bearings idk about the magnet latch looks cool tho id pay 1000+ if it was like that cant waint to get my hands on one
That sheath is pretty cool, are they going to be selling just the sheath? Or does anyone know of a similar sheath being sold currently?
Yes the 42 is amazing. But it's reached a God level of hype and such. If they were to bring it back one it wouldn't be special anymore and two it will never live up to the crazy amazing stigma around it.
Also, Benchmade, since you’ll read my comment and all, the Chinese clone market sells 42s like fucking crazy. And there are some GOOD clones out there. Twenty bucks on DHgate and a little tuning and I’ve had some really nice ones.
Just remaster the damn 42!!!!
beautiful,love this.
I wonder if flytanium will be making alternate blades for this one???
Oh man. This thing looks serious. I've wanted a Benchmade 43 for like 15 years. Do they still make those? I have a Morpho from when they were first released around...2004? Great knife, not an easy flipper though.
I have always wanted one, and just recently got my first Benchmade Balisong; it's an old lightly used 48s, with partial serrations, hidden hardware, and the balisong stamp, etc. Do you have any information about it? I've tried to do some research and only come up with they are rather scarce and rare.
Second question: Will the compression pouch ever be sold independently as an accessory?
Id rather buy Chinese titanium 42 for $100.
Any chance of delivering this in Brazil Blade HQ?
I want a 42 with 87 style blade and ofcourse milled handles
When is the next run of 87s coming out??????
Damn, this comment section has a lot of bitching. There are so many considerations that make the knife as expensive as it is. It's MSRP too. More places are going to sell it for 510. Amazing blade steel, the manufacturing process is expensive with machining tools wearing down on titanium and the time it takes to do it, innovative latch, ball bearings (hoping this reduces handle play). All things considered, this is a premium knife. Bali flipping is an expensive hobby to get into, if you've been around, you wouldn't be surprised seeing amazing knives sell for close to 400, 450.
And the 4x series is overrated, don't bring it back. It's design is outdated and outclassed by current performance balisongs. Calm the fuck down, people
mrblue251 couldn't have said that better myself!! People need to stop bitching that obviously have no idea the cost that actually goes into producing these knives. Its true that u are paying for the name on the knife but that Benchmade name means that ur gonna get some of the best quality around as far as steel, construction, and attention to detail. Like he mentioned in the video that Benchmade is in the upper echelon of knife manufacturers bc of those reasons that I listed.
Bog standard s30v and some kind of titanium? yeah that will run you a few hundred dollars
I bet this knife costs maximum 60$ to Benchmade. The proof will come in some months when the Chinese guys will start to sell it for 50$ (with the same quality).
The obvious exaggeration aside, just dont get the knife then.
I can assure you that if I'm exaggerating it's not much.
the 87 looks amazing but the price and benchmade need to do a new trainer
I love the blade shape and handle design, but I will not buy it cause the price. Spending $600 from retail or $510 from Blade hq website, I will rather choose BRS or Microtech techyon III. At least I can save more money for other stuff.
I just wanna know when the first 62 was made so I can kinda time gap these 2
the 42 should be made that way and it should always be forsale and in stock
Fear has kept me from owning a Balisong / Butterfly knife, and I expect that will not change in the near future. I might as well juggle running chainsaws while riding a unicycle blindfolded on a high wire over a minefield.
Scott G honestly it's not that bad. I was terrified myself till I got a 42 knock off. just learn open and close. everything else is useless
buy a trainer youll quickly see how easy it is not to hurt yourself
Just came across this comment, LOL cheered me up. Still no Balisongs for you?
Is there any potential of more blade Styles in this 8x series?
Such as the recurve tanto that was on the 67.
where is that knife originated? thank that nation for a dope knife
Will that pouch be avaliable separately?
The problem with magnets replacing the spring, is magnets loose their "magnetism" over time, so how long would the "Spring Latch" actually last?
MysteryMoose knife is guaranteed for life
yeah but magnets themselves dont actually last forever. They lose it over time from drops and even higher temps, is there a way to replace the magnets?
MysteryMoose just send it to Benchmade? free replacement if they lose magnetization. that's what I was implying with my response.
yeah but thats kinda silly, plus i think many people prefer the spring latch? not too sure though, will have to wait and see how BM handles this
Can it come polished instead of bead blast? :/
when is this knife coming out.
When will your be able to Buy this ?
Nice knife
What would be a good balisong for beginners?
DMD a cheap one a $15 42 knock off. ect.
for $100 more you could get a bc midtech from palethius why would I spend $600 on a production bali, but it does look pretty cool
I love the methods of construction. But I hate the design. Definitely seems to go after the BRS fans but misses on all the points that make BRS special. And I personally would have never used bearings and simply done bushings.
wow!!! 😍😻😻 except for the price 🙀😥 can't afford it. $600 for a balisong?! nah
No matter how good it’s made people will always complain.
please get a noise canceler for your mic like a deadcat wind muf cause the background noise kills the video
and please learn how to flip that you like your fingers is a lame excuse when you grab the safe handle there are enough tricks you can learn
Why dont they just mill 4x handles instead of casting them?
Would be cool to see a non head blasted model
Looks like they maybe found a piece of scrap cardboard left over from a cut test and said, “well, there’s a blade shape for our top-of-the-line balisong.”
this is so dope ass looking.LOVE IT
This guy's flipping technicque. Wow!
nice video
I thought the whole reason they discontinued the 42 was because of the price of titanium...so why are they making this full titanium piece of shit instead of the 42???
its because of the molds for the 4x were like bad now or some weird excuse
Can u guys set up in the Philippines pls?
Can someone tell me if this is a double bladed knife?
i need a balisong........ i am so poor..... may i have one?
Hey, I was curious. What's the best balisong for a beginner?
Bradley kimura
Can you get it in a trainer form?
Anyone know why they went for tang pins instead of zen pins?
I really thought that this was going to be a bad knife, even tho I was hoping otherwise. But, a channel that flips like a Rep. I'd still rather wait for a Rep drop, but I see this being a good knife.
So it's that expensive because they waste a whole bunch of titanium grinding it from a billet? When people just want the 42 back? Benchmade, what the hell are you doing?
you do realize that they melt down the scraps and recycle it, right???
It's still a waste. You can't get every little scrap. Also, my big point is the fact that people really just wanted them to continue with the 42 design. Not make a totally different one. I realize Benchmade wants to be modern, but most of their customers don't want modern designs, it seems.
Nah bro people dont want the 42 back. 42 is overrated. Kids complain alot about the 42 blablabla. We dont want the 42 we want 87.
I had a 42 previously and I thought it was the shit but now that I have the 87 I kinda think the 42 was a bit of a dog by comparison. Having said that I still miss it. I think it would be cool to see a updated 42 with bearing pivots and a magnetic latch with s30v blade steel.
Jacob Wrona and longer handles
that is decent steel but not that great. i expected a v-10 or h1 steal for that price. but for a bali maybe the prices are different i usually only get folders. i do like the razor blade shape. like a wharncliffe or a razel
s30v is better than VG10 and H1 (unless you plan to go swimming with it)
Sorry, this is too radical a design for me. I'll stick with the classic 42.
Can they make a system so we can fully customize a knife that is 500 dollars and lower.
Handle metal
Bearing or washer
Blade steel
Blade shape
Handle shape
Latch style
Handle and blade length (to a reasonable degree)
that is a very expensive process, you would be spending upwards of $1000 for something like that at least for now
Derek's facial expression is more interesting than the knife itself, same thing in another chanel.
Maybe a tanto variation?
Stopped the video as soon as I heard the price. Still thinking seriously about the 51 though.
Jesus Dave is a fucking wizard