Utter myth that Sunderland fans don't like Southerners. Our player of the last century was Charlie Hurley who was a Londoner with Irish decent. One of our club embassadors is Kevin Ball who is from the south coast. Kevin Phillips was from just north of London. What we don't like is bullshitters who can't do their job.
@@grahamgibbins8071chances are it is when he was sacked from rangers he unfollowed the club account followed it again then deleted his Twitter after being called out for it, so I wouldn’t put him running his own fan club as beyond him
Look at Wolves now.. I cannot believe they would have gone for MB He maybe a good coach but managing as head coach 20 odd players, may take a load of different skills and know how..
Newcastle fan here, can’t stand when these lot in the media is it where he is from, is it because he’s a southerner, it’s got nothing to do where people come from 🤦🏻♂️
i know Sunderland loved Kevin Ball and Newcastle fans were sad to hear MA appoint Steve Bruce even sadder that he stayed so long Eddie Howe is popular I think.. Listening to experts who have no local understanding knowledge Hence Simon and his off the mark assumptions
Simon Jordan's remark dismissing Sunderland's ambitions as "delusions of grandeur" is not just unfair, but completely off the mark. Sunderland boasts a passionate and proud fan base that has weathered the storms of the past decade. Despite the club's challenges, their colossal support remains evident in consistently high attendance figures, even during their time in League One surpassing many Premier League sides. Their fans are discerning and quick to spot when their beloved club is being misled. The appointment of Beale only added to their frustrations. Reports of his use of a burner Twitter account only serve to confirm suspicions of his opportunistic nature. Just ask fans of QPR and Rangers, who have had firsthand experience with Beale's questionable tactics. Sunderland may be down, but they are by no means out. Their size and fervent support make them a force to be reckoned with, deserving of far more respect than they've been given.
I'm a sunderland fan simon was spot on our fans have been really toxic this last few months and seems we're a bunch of snowflakes. We need to remember where we just come from and we are still doing well considering that!
@@garybrennan3923 absolute bs. Fans remember where we just came from. But the club sacking mowbray we at least expected someone to come in better. And Beale never once helped his situation.
I’m not a Sunderland fan but I would love them to come back up to the Premier League. I want to biggest clubs in England in the top league. I give lots of credit to the smaller clubs for getting there with stadiums that hold less than 20,000 fans (an amazing achievement for any club to do that with less than half of other teams’ match-day revenues). I want to see the big clubs with the biggest stadiums up there. Thankfully, unlike sports like the NFL and NBA, football is (in a lot of respects) a meritocracy, so teams cannot just be let in the PL for having a lot of fans. I hope Sunderland can improve and eventually come back up. They’re the biggest club in the north-east of England and one of the biggest in the North of England full stop. Manchester United, Leeds United, Liverpool & Everton are the only four that are guaranteed bigger than Sunderland. Get a new manager, doing better due diligence in doing so, and plan for the future, and move on. There are no short-cuts in football anymore. Ten years ago they could easily buy their way back up, but this is impossible now after Chelsea & City have done it to death (and illegally in City’s case).
@@chrisknight2631😂😂 biggest in th northeast tho spent more time in th lower leagues than any of th 'northeast' teams in th last 30 years. Massive club lol
Simon Jordan has never been able to hide his dislike of Sunderland AFC. The fans have never had any delusions of grandeur since the 1950s Bank of England club. They are one of the most accepting, patient and forgiving fans in the country. After five years of dross they enjoyed a season and a half of entertaining football from talented young players. Many were gutted that it was taken away from them due the dismissal of Mowbray. Beale's boring style of football only resulted in four wins all of which could have gone the other way.
Look at how many of the Sunderland players liked the official post on instagram about his dismissal. Says it all. Sunderland fans don’t have delusions of grandeur, the football we were playing under Beale was dross, no improvement on Mowbray.
I expect beale will end up at millwall b4 the end of the season. To think when Rangers last won the league, Gerrard got no credit and all the praise was going to beale....?
His trainings were good - apparently. Andy halliday confirmed this. But management is not for him. I think his ego grew to unattainable levels at glasgow Rangers 🤔 😕........ He really thought he was the main man. He obviously hasn't learned from the Rangers mistakes and his ego 🙄 🤷🏼 has killed him off again. He has a good reputation as a coach but he is never manager material. He talks too much and his trainings turned too scatty at Rangers, Souness explained it well on here 👏🏻
Where has the narrative come from that we don’t like southerners at Safc, Kevin Phillips, Kevin ball, Luke onien and Defoe are all practically club legends all of which came from the south of England 🤣🤣🤣
Beale was pathetic. Wasnt anything about us being deluded. Thats for the mags up the road. He was just useless. Arrogant. We never wanted him because once mowbray went we expected it was for someone better. Not this clown..
Simon’s right, Beale had the opportunity to learn his trade and appreciate the position QPR provided him with. Turning up at Ibrox when GVB was struggling wasn’t the sign of someone with integrity. He took the Rangers job and was proven to be completely out of his depth. Taking stock for a while after Rangers would’ve been the sensible option however he’ll be seen as a major liability after failures at two seperate clubs in less than a season! Not clever on his own part.
The rangers job is a once in a lifetime chance of he said no he had no chance of ever being offered the job again. If rangers never went in for him he would never have left qpr
He's got a point though the amount of fans having a pop at him because of his accent! Don't know what his accent has to do with anything but I heard a few fans having a go because of that.
Most fans didn't want him in the first place but imo what he said after a loss in a press conferenced he called the fans 'outsiders' is what turned the ones willing to give him a chance.
Remember when he went on White and Jordan and said that QPR had to say yes to a lot of HIS questions when he interviewed for that job! The game is full of chancers like Beale. Lampard's mate at Millwall is another. They know all the buzzwords to blag an interview panel and not a great deal else. Wolves dodged a bullet.
The guy talked the talk and couldn’t walk the walk it was as simple as that he criticised the fans and belittled the team. The football was flat and unfortunately for him he had to follow mowbrays style of attacking free flowing football which the fans grew to love. Other than the second half of Plymouth I can remember under Beale Sunderland playing all that well or being lucky to come away with a result
as a Sunderland fan and a reasonable one Most of us want to see progress.. building on what good work has been done. The recruitment team have found a lot of young but talented boys who can handle the ball.. there are 40K at every home game.. So we just want the best possible coach to advance the players.. Because they are maybe the 6th best team yet no big money buys have come in .. The academy is full of ball playing 16 18 year olds as well as the first team who are mainly kids too
Worst journalism in sporting history. Didn't even know Sunderland were involved in the play offs last season and for some biased reason believes the fans have illusions of grandeur . Hilsrious really.
Hahahaha, no one listened to what i have said all along. Beale is the worst coach / manager out there. This man is unemployable, get an office job son 😅
Mowbray was very popular despite having a bang average season - actually 100% typical of his managerial career average! When he was sacked there was talk of an up and coming foreign coach which got us excited So when Beale was mentioned there was immediate huge disappointment QPR and Rangers fans were unanimous in their criticism (hatred) of Beale, which added fuel to the fire, especially the way he left QPR, with Alex Neil's treachery fresh in our minds K L-D could have listened to the fans' total dismay and changed his mind he didn't and then presented Beale as the one they had been tracking and as being perfect for the job, when in fact he was just cheap and didn't want to bring a coaching team with him! Speakman even promoted his mate Dodds to Assistant Head Coach the day Beale arrived! So I am sure Beale felt obliged to be heavily influenced by Dodds - who is now interim Head Coach!! Some fans said ok, give the bloke a chance but many others started the Beale Out campaign before he even arrived. totally unfair IMO, but it happened Beale said the wrong thing quite a few times but as far as I'm concerned his biggest failing was that he made no significant changes ! (Dodds influence ??) If we had hung on to beat Birmingham Beale would have had a higher PPG than Mowbray managed this season, but losing dropped it a little below. Narrow margins! Still dunno if he walked or was pushed or a bit of both. We may never know
You must be talking of Tony Mowbray this season.. With Amad Roberts and all the players gelled so well last season Hence our attractive football of 2022-23 Lack lustre against HT and Brum and first half against Plymouth 3 strikes 2 off the post won him that game.
If an owner gets rid of a popular manager and replaces him with someone with less ability then it’s a gamble that most likely will fail as footie fans will tell you when it’s time to change the manager
Simon Jordan hates Sunderland. Always takes every chance he gets to have a pop. Well I’ll say one thing Simon. Sunderland piss all over Crystal Palace as a football club.
Re SJ “sacking Beale after 12 weeks isn’t a good reflection on you (the board)” It’s The Thick of It and Malcolm Tucker: We sack you after a week, we’ve 💩 up; you go in 6 months you have! 😂
You can discuss whatever you like, but someone with an accent like Michael Beale’s was going to grate on and alienate anyone outside 10 miles from where he originated.
How are these managers getting these jobs.🤷♂️It seems nowdays its easy to be a football manager. Most of the appointments these days are not by merit.
Such a weak statement saying he wasn't accepted because of accent.... It's the fact he has no credible history at managing at the required level and fans who follow their club for decades can see it wouldn't be a good fit. Kevin Ball is Southern yet adored by the people in Sunderland.
We got it as well at Newcastle over Ashley & Pardew, Rob Lee even came out saying how much the fans loved him. It's lazy by pundits & fans of other clubs that throw that opinion around.
Rangers fans owe a debt of gratitude to Michael Beale, if he hadn't said Yes to Rangers it would never have put us on the path to appointing Phillipe Clement.
The thing is that Michael Dodds may be as good as Michael Beale there are loads of skills required to be a head coach and manage the coaching and keep the players happy.. Tony was so good at this it appears Michael Dodds had 3 games and he set the team up so well beating WBA and Leeds Then they appoint Beale ?? Dodds is in charge now..
Beale has a good eye for talent but as a manager he just can't cut it. He is best in a coaching role alongside a good manager or scouting out young talent.
he was failing at QPR as well guy went 25 games without a win everyone was getting carried away because he had them top for a small amount of time he would of got sacked at qpr once teams figured him out
Not a Sunderland supporter, but I thought he lost the plot in the Cup tie with Newcastle. It was naive at best, and looked like a rudderless team. At the time it felt like a bad sign of fortunes.
Perhaps Sunderland found out that Michael Beale was using an account called Player_id, which even had a podcast and LinkedIn account, to promote himself and to criticise Sunderland's board and that gave them cause to get rid of him. I think they dodged a bullet and Beale shouldn't work for another club, at least as a manager anyway
I like to think i follow the prem and champ quite closely but i dont think I actually knew he was at Sunderland, was he there last season when they were 1 point off the promotion places? (Or did they make it and get knocked out by cov or luton?)
No he came in December for 12 games and took us backwards out of the top 6 down to 10th. From playing fast, high pressing, counter attacking football under Mowbray, to a slow, defensive style and hoping Clarke does some magic to nic a 1.0 win. Not to mention having a 2nd twitter account whilst being here & at Rangers retweeting pro beale posts. They bloke is an absolute weapon and every club should stay well away from him
@@jaystwopence im not a sunderland fan, and im certainly not a beale fan either, everyone knows it was a very harsh decision to sack mowbray, but at the time , sunderland were hardly pulling up trees were they!
Problem is it all done on the cheap speakman and kld to blame , never wanted beale and not spend the money to bring any top coach in and wouldn’t work with speakman simple, we been needing a experience forward for two years and still haven’t got one 😢
SAFC have a bad set up, not sure how Speakman was employed. Club not going anywhere, set up all wrong, wrong people making decisions. Get rid of Speakman and get a MANAGER not a head yes man. Tony Mobrew was not well received but did a great job, had the team playing good football and the fans were sorry to see him go. Change needed.
Incredibly condescending towards Sunderland fans by Simple Jim here. Saying that Sunderland fans are not having Beale because he's from down South..........like is the man for real? Is this the week one of life Jim? Kev Phillips is from down South and hes the most loved Sunderland player of the last 30 years.....we dont care where youre from - its what you do. Then simple Jim says that Sunderland fans would never give him a chance to make it no matter what the results are......so according to chimp brain Jim if Beale had won every game since he came in, he would still get fired anyways because the sunderland cavemen (according to simple Jim) cant accept Beale just because hes from down south hahahahahaha As for Jordan "Delusions of Grandeur" - Sunderland are a much bigger club than Crystal Palace so he is in no position to make that comment as a Palace fan.
It's not delusional for Sunderland fans wanting a decent coach, they sacked a better coach in Mowbray, it's only right they were expecting an upgrade, otherwise why bother sacking Mowbray in first place, which the majority of Sunderland fans were against... Only person delusional here is Simon..
Had nothing to do with him being a cockney. He called us fans background noise and rubbed everyone up the wrong way. Ignored a player HE subbed off. Talked sh*te in interviews and tactics baffled everyone. RAWA
To be honest I’d never heard of Michael Beal before his massive foul up at Sunderland, useless 🤔 heard of Ian Beale, bet he would have been a better Manager at Sunderland, that’s for sure. God help the next club who ever takes this clown on.
Utter myth that Sunderland fans don't like Southerners. Our player of the last century was Charlie Hurley who was a Londoner with Irish decent. One of our club embassadors is Kevin Ball who is from the south coast. Kevin Phillips was from just north of London.
What we don't like is bullshitters who can't do their job.
☝🏻 This ... Only the chancer himself called us biggots and everyone else jumps on it
The guy was posting pro Beale posts on a burner account 😅
Is that true? Please be true?
@@grahamgibbins8071chances are it is when he was sacked from rangers he unfollowed the club account followed it again then deleted his Twitter after being called out for it, so I wouldn’t put him running his own fan club as beyond him
@@grahamgibbins8071yes it’s true 😬
Very true, check out Paddy power parody 🤣
Psychopathic behaviour that and yes it is true, safc forever
The only winner in this whole thing is Wolves.
And beale's bank account.
And qpr we got compensation from rangers
😂
Look at Wolves now..
I cannot believe they would have gone for MB
He maybe a good coach but managing as head coach 20 odd players, may take a load of different skills and know how..
Hope he ends up managing Celtic 😂😂
I didn’t believe the words that were coming out of his mouth.
He is a total chancer. As if we needed 12 games to figure that out.
Newcastle fan here, can’t stand when these lot in the media is it where he is from, is it because he’s a southerner, it’s got nothing to do where people come from 🤦🏻♂️
i know Sunderland loved Kevin Ball
and Newcastle fans were sad to hear MA appoint
Steve Bruce even sadder that he stayed so long
Eddie Howe is popular I think..
Listening to experts who have no local understanding knowledge
Hence Simon and his off the mark assumptions
Simon Jordan's remark dismissing Sunderland's ambitions as "delusions of grandeur" is not just unfair, but completely off the mark. Sunderland boasts a passionate and proud fan base that has weathered the storms of the past decade. Despite the club's challenges, their colossal support remains evident in consistently high attendance figures, even during their time in League One surpassing many Premier League sides.
Their fans are discerning and quick to spot when their beloved club is being misled. The appointment of Beale only added to their frustrations. Reports of his use of a burner Twitter account only serve to confirm suspicions of his opportunistic nature. Just ask fans of QPR and Rangers, who have had firsthand experience with Beale's questionable tactics.
Sunderland may be down, but they are by no means out. Their size and fervent support make them a force to be reckoned with, deserving of far more respect than they've been given.
I'm a sunderland fan simon was spot on our fans have been really toxic this last few months and seems we're a bunch of snowflakes. We need to remember where we just come from and we are still doing well considering that!
@@garybrennan3923 absolute bs. Fans remember where we just came from. But the club sacking mowbray we at least expected someone to come in better. And Beale never once helped his situation.
I’m not a Sunderland fan but I would love them to come back up to the Premier League. I want to biggest clubs in England in the top league. I give lots of credit to the smaller clubs for getting there with stadiums that hold less than 20,000 fans (an amazing achievement for any club to do that with less than half of other teams’ match-day revenues). I want to see the big clubs with the biggest stadiums up there. Thankfully, unlike sports like the NFL and NBA, football is (in a lot of respects) a meritocracy, so teams cannot just be let in the PL for having a lot of fans. I hope Sunderland can improve and eventually come back up. They’re the biggest club in the north-east of England and one of the biggest in the North of England full stop. Manchester United, Leeds United, Liverpool & Everton are the only four that are guaranteed bigger than Sunderland.
Get a new manager, doing better due diligence in doing so, and plan for the future, and move on.
There are no short-cuts in football anymore. Ten years ago they could easily buy their way back up, but this is impossible now after Chelsea & City have done it to death (and illegally in City’s case).
@@chrisknight2631😂😂 biggest in th northeast tho spent more time in th lower leagues than any of th 'northeast' teams in th last 30 years. Massive club lol
@@garybrennan3923 Stop talking wet.
Mick Beale is an imposter
Back to Albert Square for Ian Beale
And back to square one for Sunderland
I’ve got nothing left
😂😂
@@grahamgibbins8071Sunderland play with a Square football Apparently
Simon Jordan has never been able to hide his dislike of Sunderland AFC. The fans have never had any delusions of grandeur since the 1950s Bank of England club. They are one of the most accepting, patient and forgiving fans in the country. After five years of dross they enjoyed a season and a half of entertaining football from talented young players. Many were gutted that it was taken away from them due the dismissal of Mowbray. Beale's boring style of football only resulted in four wins all of which could have gone the other way.
pissed me right off that snide remark about delusions of grandeur. The man doesn't know what spouts out of his mouth half the time.
I’m a Newcastle fan. Simon doesn’t dislike Sunderland. He just hates the north!
Rivalry aside, you make a good point. I don't know if he does it just for attention the man is a fool.@@jonathandonnini6653
What’s with the outrageous amounts of ads on this video? I’ve watched 5 minutes of it and has 6 ads ffs
Look at how many of the Sunderland players liked the official post on instagram about his dismissal. Says it all. Sunderland fans don’t have delusions of grandeur, the football we were playing under Beale was dross, no improvement on Mowbray.
I expect beale will end up at millwall b4 the end of the season. To think when Rangers last won the league, Gerrard got no credit and all the praise was going to beale....?
His trainings were good - apparently. Andy halliday confirmed this. But management is not for him. I think his ego grew to unattainable levels at glasgow Rangers 🤔 😕........
He really thought he was the main man.
He obviously hasn't learned from the Rangers mistakes and his ego 🙄 🤷🏼 has killed him off again.
He has a good reputation as a coach but he is never manager material.
He talks too much and his trainings turned too scatty at Rangers, Souness explained it well on here 👏🏻
Of course Gerrard got credit
@@OJ9992 gerrard was a proper manager at Rangers
Gerrard is a legend at Rangers ❤
No to nato.
Where has the narrative come from that we don’t like southerners at Safc, Kevin Phillips, Kevin ball, Luke onien and Defoe are all practically club legends all of which came from the south of England 🤣🤣🤣
Because of our fans sticking it on beale because of his accent!
Charlie Hurley cockney Irish player of the century at safc voted by the fans
Look at Sunderland football forums. Hundreds of posts saying "we hate cockneys"
No to nato.
@@philipnapier3585 he's not even cockney, he's from South London. Shows how much these mackems know
lol.... 'the 12 year old owner' made me laugh.
Beale was pathetic. Wasnt anything about us being deluded. Thats for the mags up the road. He was just useless. Arrogant. We never wanted him because once mowbray went we expected it was for someone better. Not this clown..
We need a season 4 of a Sunderland till i die now
The stuff coming out on his alleged Twitter burner account is hilarious!
Whats the handle?
Simon’s right, Beale had the opportunity to learn his trade and appreciate the position QPR provided him with. Turning up at Ibrox when GVB was struggling wasn’t the sign of someone with integrity. He took the Rangers job and was proven to be completely out of his depth. Taking stock for a while after Rangers would’ve been the sensible option however he’ll be seen as a major liability after failures at two seperate clubs in less than a season! Not clever on his own part.
Sunderland fans who’s team spent 4 years in League 1 having delusions of grandeur!?!?
Surely we can expect better?
This is the longest we have spent outside of the top flight. We know we are a top flight club, it’s not arrogance, it’s expectation.
There are 40K faithfully hoping for better
a smart appointment or a lucky one
The rangers job is a once in a lifetime chance of he said no he had no chance of ever being offered the job again. If rangers never went in for him he would never have left qpr
" Is it because you dont want southerners at your club " of course, not like one of the all time time favourites Kevin Ball is a northerner.
Silly Jim
He's got a point though the amount of fans having a pop at him because of his accent! Don't know what his accent has to do with anything but I heard a few fans having a go because of that.
@@garybrennan3923 Cant agree, not seen a single comment about his accent. Mainly about his arrogance and ability, which is what it comes down to.
He is tough though so we accepts im
"12 year old" Louis-Dreyfus who is only 5 years younger than Simon when he took over Palace
he was 23 when he took over, big difference but sure.
Don’t know why Simon is having a pop at the age of Sunderland chairman.
cant remember palace setting the world alight when he owned them
Not for the first time either. Odd.
I think it was the logic of sacking Mowbary!
Simon Jordan was barely out of nappies when he became Palace owner.
He is a bully
Hit on the nail... QPR gave him the opportunity to learn his trade.. his ego got the better of him
Don't think the owner is blameless.
“The 12 year old owner” 😂😂😂😂😂
Most fans didn't want him in the first place but imo what he said after a loss in a press conferenced he called the fans 'outsiders' is what turned the ones willing to give him a chance.
Remember when he went on White and Jordan and said that QPR had to say yes to a lot of HIS questions when he interviewed for that job! The game is full of chancers like Beale. Lampard's mate at Millwall is another. They know all the buzzwords to blag an interview panel and not a great deal else. Wolves dodged a bullet.
The guy talked the talk and couldn’t walk the walk it was as simple as that he criticised the fans and belittled the team. The football was flat and unfortunately for him he had to follow mowbrays style of attacking free flowing football which the fans grew to love. Other than the second half of Plymouth I can remember under Beale Sunderland playing all that well or being lucky to come away with a result
Correction Simon he was in charge of rangers this season when Rodger’s was at Celtic.
They never looked like winning the game at Birmingham. What game was you watching ? Most Sunderland fans thought Birmingham was the better team.
as a Sunderland fan and a reasonable one
Most of us want to see progress.. building on what good work has been done. The recruitment team have found a lot of young but talented boys who can handle the ball.. there are 40K at every home game.. So we just want the best possible coach to advance the players.. Because they are maybe the 6th best team yet no big money buys have come in .. The academy is full of ball playing 16 18 year olds as well as the first team who are mainly kids too
Will Sunderland till i die series include this at some point?
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
Worst journalism in sporting history. Didn't even know Sunderland were involved in the play offs last season and for some biased reason believes the fans have illusions of grandeur . Hilsrious really.
No not funny
Hahahaha, no one listened to what i have said all along. Beale is the worst coach / manager out there. This man is unemployable, get an office job son 😅
Did they not ask what happened at Rangers.
Probably, Michael replied with...all their fault.
Simon Jordan knows nothing about football. Ran palace into the ground and gives it the Barry McGuigan.
Carsalesman. Bye Ian B
At QPR, he had it so cushty, the players he wanted they signed, then he levt
Mowbray was very popular despite having a bang average season - actually 100% typical of his managerial career average!
When he was sacked there was talk of an up and coming foreign coach which got us excited
So when Beale was mentioned there was immediate huge disappointment
QPR and Rangers fans were unanimous in their criticism (hatred) of Beale, which added fuel to the fire, especially the way he left QPR, with Alex Neil's treachery fresh in our minds
K L-D could have listened to the fans' total dismay and changed his mind
he didn't and then presented Beale as the one they had been tracking and as being perfect for the job, when in fact he was just cheap and didn't want to bring a coaching team with him!
Speakman even promoted his mate Dodds to Assistant Head Coach the day Beale arrived! So I am sure Beale felt obliged to be heavily influenced by Dodds - who is now interim Head Coach!!
Some fans said ok, give the bloke a chance but many others started the Beale Out campaign before he even arrived. totally unfair IMO, but it happened
Beale said the wrong thing quite a few times but as far as I'm concerned his biggest failing was that he made no significant changes ! (Dodds influence ??)
If we had hung on to beat Birmingham Beale would have had a higher PPG than Mowbray managed this season, but losing dropped it a little below. Narrow margins!
Still dunno if he walked or was pushed or a bit of both. We may never know
You must be talking of Tony Mowbray this season..
With Amad Roberts and all the players gelled so well last season
Hence our attractive football of 2022-23
Lack lustre against HT and Brum and first half against Plymouth
3 strikes 2 off the post
won him that game.
If an owner gets rid of a popular manager and replaces him with someone with less ability then it’s a gamble that most likely will fail as footie fans will tell you when it’s time to change the manager
Simon Jordan hates Sunderland. Always takes every chance he gets to have a pop. Well I’ll say one thing Simon. Sunderland piss all over Crystal Palace as a football club.
Jim White has another football pal… “we tried to get him on the show…”
Re SJ “sacking Beale after 12 weeks isn’t a good reflection on you (the board)”
It’s The Thick of It and Malcolm Tucker:
We sack you after a week, we’ve 💩 up; you go in 6 months you have!
😂
You can discuss whatever you like, but someone with an accent like Michael Beale’s was going to grate on and alienate anyone outside 10 miles from where he originated.
He may have had a short tenure but he alienated himself very early into it. The man has inflected all upon his CV. He had a burner X account!!!
Is that true. Your the 2nd comment to mention it
How are these managers getting these jobs.🤷♂️It seems nowdays its easy to be a football manager. Most of the appointments these days are not by merit.
U only have too look at beale too know he is a bluffer
Such a weak statement saying he wasn't accepted because of accent.... It's the fact he has no credible history at managing at the required level and fans who follow their club for decades can see it wouldn't be a good fit. Kevin Ball is Southern yet adored by the people in Sunderland.
We got it as well at Newcastle over Ashley & Pardew, Rob Lee even came out saying how much the fans loved him. It's lazy by pundits & fans of other clubs that throw that opinion around.
Is Beale's burner account on Twitter still going? It made for very interesting reading.
All managers get sacked at Sunderland, sharpish, even Pep
Delusions of grandeur. Maybe it’s jealousy? I mean, Crystal Palace were/are tinpot compared to Sunderland, premier league or no.
Rangers fans owe a debt of gratitude to Michael Beale, if he hadn't said Yes to Rangers it would never have put us on the path to appointing Phillipe Clement.
Ali McBeale?
As a Sunderland fan he just wasn't a likable character, just says all the wrong things
to says too much about everything
Sunderland fans have a delusion of grandeur Simon eh, bit ironic that coming from you mind.
Sunderland fans having delusions of grandeur? Surely not....
Simon is always firing shots 😂😂😂
Absolute balls because he’s from London
Serves them right for doin the dirty on mowbray who was overachieving with the poor quality players
The thing is that Michael Dodds may be as good as Michael Beale
there are loads of skills required to be a head coach and manage the coaching and keep the players happy.. Tony was so good at this it appears
Michael Dodds had 3 games and he set the team up so well beating WBA and Leeds Then they appoint Beale ??
Dodds is in charge now..
Beale record at Sunderland is fantastic tbh, best manager in year's.
The fact guys like him can get jobs tells you how rotten this sport has become
Facts
I thought he was worse than useless to be fair he’s a very unlikable bloke he’s got that thing about him
Beale has a good eye for talent but as a manager he just can't cut it. He is best in a coaching role alongside a good manager or scouting out young talent.
He paid money for Sam Lammers.
Simon is right, he should have stayed at Qpr but he got too big for himself
he was failing at QPR as well guy went 25 games without a win everyone was getting carried away because he had them top for a small amount of time he would of got sacked at qpr once teams figured him out
Not a Sunderland supporter, but I thought he lost the plot in the Cup tie with Newcastle. It was naive at best, and looked like a rudderless team. At the time it felt like a bad sign of fortunes.
We deserved a better coach.... He was on the cheap thats why the owners went for him
Perhaps Sunderland found out that Michael Beale was using an account called Player_id, which even had a podcast and LinkedIn account, to promote himself and to criticise Sunderland's board and that gave them cause to get rid of him.
I think they dodged a bullet and Beale shouldn't work for another club, at least as a manager anyway
Simon Jordan, thick as a submarine door
Delusions of grandeur 😂 how many titles have Palace won? Or fa cups? Anything? No mate, absolutely nowt
I like to think i follow the prem and champ quite closely but i dont think I actually knew he was at Sunderland, was he there last season when they were 1 point off the promotion places? (Or did they make it and get knocked out by cov or luton?)
No he came in December for 12 games and took us backwards out of the top 6 down to 10th.
From playing fast, high pressing, counter attacking football under Mowbray, to a slow, defensive style and hoping Clarke does some magic to nic a 1.0 win.
Not to mention having a 2nd twitter account whilst being here & at Rangers retweeting pro beale posts. They bloke is an absolute weapon and every club should stay well away from him
@@jaystwopence im not a sunderland fan, and im certainly not a beale fan either, everyone knows it was a very harsh decision to sack mowbray, but at the time , sunderland were hardly pulling up trees were they!
Deluded fans. They've been on netflix and think they should be successful. Embarrassing lot
I actually never new John barnes managed celtic learn sumat new everyday
we should never have hired him
Bet Wolves were glad he turned them down
Problem is it all done on the cheap speakman and kld to blame , never wanted beale and not spend the money to bring any top coach in and wouldn’t work with speakman simple, we been needing a experience forward for two years and still haven’t got one 😢
Steve Cooper did wonders for NF and he know how to coach kids and young players
He is unemployed
@@georgianwindow yea would have him , but would he work with speakman which is the problem
Was Beale at QPR?
Yes
@@jordanbyford2693 Sorry mate but I was being facetious. It seemed like SJ made the statement every time he mentioned Beale.
@gillie-monger3394 😂😂 fare enough I switched off after couple of minutes after listening to Simon
@@jordanbyford2693 🤣🤣
He's now called Mick
He wasn't a number 2 he's was a first team coach
SAFC have a bad set up, not sure how Speakman was employed. Club not going anywhere, set up all wrong, wrong people making decisions. Get rid of Speakman and get a MANAGER not a head yes man. Tony Mobrew was not well received but did a great job, had the team playing good football and the fans were sorry to see him go. Change needed.
He hasn't got a clue.
I think Gerrard and Beale need each other, they were doing great together then it all went wrong when they split.
Beale was at rangers this season simon pay attention mate 😂
Incredibly condescending towards Sunderland fans by Simple Jim here. Saying that Sunderland fans are not having Beale because he's from down South..........like is the man for real? Is this the week one of life Jim? Kev Phillips is from down South and hes the most loved Sunderland player of the last 30 years.....we dont care where youre from - its what you do.
Then simple Jim says that Sunderland fans would never give him a chance to make it no matter what the results are......so according to chimp brain Jim if Beale had won every game since he came in, he would still get fired anyways because the sunderland cavemen (according to simple Jim) cant accept Beale just because hes from down south hahahahahaha
As for Jordan "Delusions of Grandeur" - Sunderland are a much bigger club than Crystal Palace so he is in no position to make that comment as a Palace fan.
Simon Jordan you’re the pundit version of him. We don’t mind decent cockneys. And Tony Mowbray had started getting found out.
He was at Rangers this season. Do some basic homework, man.
Bring Back Mick 🤣🤣
As soon as another pundit doesn't agree with Jordan, his petulant side kicks in and he resorts to name calling. 😁
It's not delusional for Sunderland fans wanting a decent coach, they sacked a better coach in Mowbray, it's only right they were expecting an upgrade, otherwise why bother sacking Mowbray in first place, which the majority of Sunderland fans were against... Only person delusional here is Simon..
He was too arrogant in his interviews, always the fans or players faults, never his own
The guy is pure snake oil
This is just 'outside noise'.
Two blokes commenting on a situation they truely know nothing about.
Since when is he referred to as Mick Biel, Jim?
Had nothing to do with him being a cockney. He called us fans background noise and rubbed everyone up the wrong way. Ignored a player HE subbed off. Talked sh*te in interviews and tactics baffled everyone. RAWA
To be honest I’d never heard of Michael Beal before his massive foul up at Sunderland, useless 🤔 heard of Ian Beale, bet he would have been a better Manager at Sunderland, that’s for sure. God help the next club who ever takes this clown on.
He called the fans outside noise Jim take your rangers tinted glasses off😅 you're raging