@@shuraamano I never said that I’m just saying, a 1 year extension isn’t the most insuring in my opinion! Team not wanting to play with passion isn’t on him either! This has been an ongoing problem!
10:22 You can't say Kobbie doesn't do enough in defence when he's 4th in the entire league in Tackles and Interceptions, I think he's being tasked with too much responsibility if anything.
@@rwhitting102 If he's statistically doing more defensive work than most players, he really can't also not be doing enough unless you expect him to be a perfect machine.
Refreshing to see a Liverpool fan actually make good content on Man U and I have to admit I wasn’t to keen on Lawrence when he was on the kick off but watching him on here I think he’s great.
As an Arsenal fan I look at their era of underachieving and it’s lasted longer than Arsenal’s! From the outside looking in, I just couldn’t say what their problem is. But there IS a problem and they’re still in the phase of putting problems right. You don’t then just starting winnning big trophies. It’s all happening against a background of a Man City team so strong only Liverpool cracked them the once (in an odd year) and in the process broke themselves (again). When you’re through the phase of putting problems right, only then can you start to envisage the sort of improvement that’s currently required to win the League. Emery didn’t do a bad job at Arsenal but I felt he was getting a song out of a team that would never win a title, and he didn’t understand Arsenal’s manic need to climb that mountain now and then. Arteta’s early wobbles were those of a man who knew just how high the climb would have to be. He’s put the problems at Arsenal right, now all they’ve got to do is get better. I know this sounds vague and non-footballing but Man U always sound like a an operation that thinks putting problems right is the easy bit and getting better is hard but it’s the other way round. They always overrate the players they got, always think the era of getting better is just around the corner, but 3 wins means they think it’s the League title soon, 3 losses and they’re slitting throats and sacking the manager. But that pattern is now a Freudian repetition compulsion, the unconscious desire to repeat the very patterns that have left you where you find yourself today. Until Man U crack that repetition compulsion this pattern could run and run.
Maybe I'm clinging to the idea that ETH is the right man too much, but I feel like the issues on display today are the same issues that Mourinho, Ole and Rangnick all saw... I dont understand what the issue is, but I dont feel confident enough to say that the blame should fall at the managers feet anymore. In my opinion, far more senior players should have been forced out over the summer so that the heirarchy can begin to address the systemic cultural issues in the squad and the wider club
I think both things you're saying can be true. Clearing deadwood is fine but deadwood players barely play anyways and when they leave the problems still remain, they need to clear the players that have been part of the big picture issues consistently, manager-to-manager; Rashford, Shaw, Lindelof, Maguire, maybe even Bruno at this point. But I also think the manager is still a big problem and way out of his depth. I really wish we had a cold-blooded ruthless with the players type of manager. I think of all the managers since SAF, Jose was the only one of those but he wasn't fully backed by the Glazers going into his final season which lead to the downfall of his time. People may hate the idea of a manager such as Tuchel, but that type of personality, while not a long term solution, is what I think is needed at this moment in time. It's the right type of ruthlessness needed for revitilizing a squad as long as they'd be backed.
@@NvFranco I'm not sure how you can accurately assess a manager while admitting that a large number of the squad are not up to scratch - and banking on sacking Ten Hag actually changing anything while the other problems are all still there doesn't seem very sensible to me, it feels more like it'll just entrench the culture of players failing and not getting any consequences because the manager is always blamed
@@dominichoad Pretty simple that he's had 5 transfer windows, over two years, over £600-million spent. The squad that played yesterday 10/16 of them were his signings. And I'm not shifting blame just on the manager, I do blame both but you can't sack a whole squad, especially outside of a window. You can still sack a manager to try and salvage and damage control the season. And you can give the players consequences if you hire a ruthless manager as I've said. Just for example, say Tuchel comes in, drops Rashford and Bruno, that is ruthless, those are consequences for poor form. If you sack the manager then hire a manager that 'fits the players' then you're not fixing the issues. This is what INEOS is responsible for, buy players that fit the system INEOS wants, hire managers that fit that philosophy. The problem under the Glazers was we'd hire a rigid possession based manager, then a defensively focused manager, then a counter attacking manager, then a gegenpressing manager, then a transitional manager. Then you'd have to chop and change players every window that fit vastly different system. Look at the absolute top clubs, Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid. All these clubs change managers every 2/3 season, but all have consistent styles of play/philosophies and they still win. Barcelona let Xavi walk, Real let Carlo walk, Bayern let Flick go. HUgely talented and successful managers but there are standards. These clubs with set philosophies don't drop off cliffs when they change managers, the overall club philosophy is what makes you consistent, not holding onto managers/players. You're not going to replicate SAF/Pep/Klopp longevity, these are once in a generation type of managerial stints at peak level.
I disagree, I think the club has given Ten Haag the players that he wanted. If you look at the roster. He’s got fairly Ajax style players or players that fit his style. I think it’s up to Haag. He’s been given more then the previous manager you named.
As a Liverpool fan I will admit that there is still hope for Man U. At least Man U have a midfield that we would swap our own for. G Nev explained this pre-season
Tbf Alex Ferguson wasn't exactly the best dinner guest. The guy could hardly speak clearly. And yet he's the most successful premier league manager of all time.
@@Alx-h9g Ferguson was a hard arse and dropped any player no matter how big they were. He demanded respect, Ten Haag looks like a weakling, he lies every interview and conference. Excuses, Clearly can't man manage players. Sir Bobby Robson would make the effort to make everyone regardless of their mentality to get the best out of them. The players he had at Ajax aren't even listening to him.
Mainoo is being left isolated to do the job of two midfielders because Bruno buggers off up the pitch, whenever there is a turnover, he is nowhere. Mainoo should not be left to do the job of everyone in midfield by himself. His style is not meant to be playing as a CDM or even a box to box 8, He needs a team that controls possession because his quality on the ball is brilliant. Ten Haag can't implement any style let alone a possession based one.
The clear out at United is only half done. Still plenty of personalities with questionable mentality: Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro, Maguire, Dalot, Lindelof, Mount, and Antony to name a few
@@Ball_Chat_FCmy guy Mark can be insufferable at times but saying he’s a NF fan because he was born in Nottingham is just idiotic. He grew up during Man United’s dominance him being a United fan makes perfect sense. Get a new criticism because that one is beyond tired.
@@Ball_Chat_FCYou just proved that you're a fan of that Saeed clown. I just checked his channel and I had to scroll past his 50 most popular videos before I found something relating to a win so people like him are the ones who wouldn't survive without Man Utd playing like this.
If you were to replace one person in this club to affect results whether its management, players or coaching staff, the manager is the single most influential person in the club. Spurs' first goal, Twente's goal, Gravenbirch and Sobozlai against United, they're all the same, because its a tactical issue There are countless other tactical issues that you can see, Big Sam wouldn't have United at a similar form
Thanks for this, I think the heat on mark and Erik right now is out of order Erik is coming to the end, but he isn’t a bad man, it just hadn’t worked Mark is great at what he does, but people leach off him don’t they
Hi Loz, big fan and I’ve been watching your content since the early podcast days. Can I get your thoughts on who Liverpool can look at IF Virgil, Mo and Trent do decide to leave the club at the end of the season. Would be interested to know who tactically would fit into our team if one, two or three of those players do decide to leave. Much love ❤️
His team looks like it’s always in such a rush to send the ball forward - it just makes them wasteful. It’s not the way his Ajax team played, so we’re not really judging him on the way he wants his team to play… which is just weird - they need to put him out of his misery
Ten Hag should waiting for his compensation if he push the management further to sack him. Or else I dun see any reason for MU not to release him of further misery.
People say Klopp and Arteta got 3-4 years to show progress... Reality is they took 3-4 years because clearance and changing of the squad took that much time with good and bad buying players. The first clearance for manchester united is this year after 2 full season of Ten hag. And we still have players in the squad who was playing under van gaal. Changes take time when done well, now imagine how much it take when done wrongly. Is ten hag at fault? Yes but not completely. He need to use the same tactics of the first season again with the players at his disposal but prefer to persist with a false kind of pressing. However i can understand he is looking on the long term, after the clearance of this year the most experience striker in the squad is Rashford (27). Garnacho still 19 and inconsistent, Amad first full season, Zirkzee need to adapt and Ramus too raw right now. Only the defence look good but dalot can't play on left against good team, that's not his position. Midfield we count too much on mainoo, eriksen and casemiro is too old now, Ugarte need to adapt, Mount injury prone and Fernandes is Fernandes. Don't forget Shaw the new Phil jones. Now tell me how to do a consistent playing team with that.
It feels like he's being swallowed up by the pressure and has no idea what to do. He needs to step back and just focus on the basics. Some of these players need to take a good, hard look at themselves.
Honestly the real issue I can see (as a passive observer who only recently found Saeed because of his Chelsea videos) between him and Goldbridge is that Mark has a much bigger platform and brand recognition and kinda casually dismisses what Saeed considers to be the biggest problem at United which is ETH. Which is always gonna be an issue. In the same way as a Chelsea fan I’m seeing Rory on every show and podcast talking about how terrible everything is at Chelsea and nothing makes sense etc while every fan I know including myself hasn’t been as invested in the club as we are currently for years
Ruud is not the answer. We can't all pretend as if Ruud is no part of the coaching staff. We can't pretend as if Ruud is not on the sidelines discussing tactics with ETH. He's as much part of it as ETH at this point.
Go and look at Bruno's red card. They got at least 3 camera views and pay attention to the reactions of the MU players. It's strange. Why is one center back who lost his Capt badge still on the team? How do the other team mates feel about his presence? What about Sancho? Do the new young players feel like MU will ruin their careers? Rashford look at his game on the pitch. Same thing he did back in 2016. Why is he still in the team? Looks like the owners only got rid of the players they could get money for and the rot remains.
Just on the Mark point, he quite clearly was sending out Anti-INEOS sentiments saying he’d protest against them if they sacked Ten Hag, like he should’ve been let go of after the Cup final. Mark clearly has shown favorability to Rasmus & Antony and who give TUS interviews & exclusives (Team news etc.) over other players like Rashford & Maguire who have publicly pushed back against the Clickbait & fake stories Mark runs on his channel. Your point against Saeed is slightly null & void, your implying that he believes Mark is at fault for what’s going on at United, obviously not, but he’s spoken about his opinions on INEOS & TH. Should check out UtdMuppitiers, much more balanced view on United, really great creator.
@@laurencemckenna from what i watched from mark rants united view and seadd its fairly clear to me that seadd and rants are almost very bitter about where club is while mark is like most of the time very dissmissive about what they largely consider ten hags fault i think the problem they have with mark focuses around that
@@laurencemckenna You forget how tribal football can be is because it is that deep to some. It makes perfect sense to be very angry at someone you think is poisoning the well, especially if they have influence within the community.
im a big man united fan, I just hope they would lose big on the upcoming few games and get rid of ten hag for good and start fresh. we have seen enough what he's able to do as a man united coach. why keeping false hope and drag any longer.
The football side of the club has been in disarray for years due the the cancerous tumour called the Glazers. INEOS are relatively new to the club. TH is not really their man , they didn’t appoint him. It’s a club in transition. It will take much more time. The culture has been all wrong. When TH arrived he said that he didn’t have the players he needed to play the way he wanted to. That tells you something about the club. Transitions are often painful.
The cycle of sacking managers every 3 years will continue if these players don't fix up and start playing for the club. Mourinho couldn't fix this team. Rangnick was right we need "open heart surgery"
The patience from the fans has run out. I have no doubt that Eric gave his all and tried his best to get something going. He isn't the right manager for us at the moment but we seriously need to rethink what sacking him means. We get lets say Tuchel, sure he will want to spend even more money to bring more overpaid players in. It's a circus Laurence
Game’s gone. A liverpool fan defending a man united fan from other man united fans is a terrible vibe. There are times when we need to come together but this is hardly one of those times 😂
I personally feel it’s not the managers fault. In fact, to be completely honest it’s the fault of the players. They do this every time. Always down tooling on the manager when they don’t like him anymore. We saw this with mourinho, Ole, rangnick and now with eth. The funniest part of all this is these players are still here and regardless of who the manager whenever they aren’t feeling the manager anymore they down tool. What happened to playing for the badge? For the fans? For the people who lost their lives playing for the club? It’s an identity issue and I personally feel these are not the right players mentality wise for this team. It’s really a shame what these players are doing can’t lie. I want my team back. Get rid of these frauds.
A manager's job is to get the players on board. Mourinho didn't get the players he wanted and he rightly didn't like players that didn't apply themselves. Ten Haag got all the players he wanted and still nothing has changed. The only player he didn't get who he wanted was De Jong. All the other players he has brought in who he had at Ajax has looked awful, he would as well. If anything, the fact that he feels he needs to just buy all the players he had that earned him that initial reputation and they look crap is even worse. Ten Haag is telling you he doesn't believe in his ability to coach new different talent. If he had the ability to get all of that Ajax team he had and trade it, he would. It shows he has no real desire to progress his ideas or take the time and create new ones. He lives in a dream world like a one hit wonder. I beg Man U keep him because the best he can do this season is scrape a top half finish. City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa, Spurs, Brighton are all better and they all have belief and understanding in their manager and tactics. So Man U are already 9th, There are midtable clubs in the Prem that will battle and have brilliant spells attaining points. Fulham, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Forest. Considering everyone though Palace were somehow dark horses for a European push, if they make a late surge. Man U couldn't even beat them. Ten Haag can't muster a style or tactic to battle a Premier League season, he got cup trophies through lucky player individual brilliance. 3 years he's had, what has changed? They look worse.
I understand what you are saying, but I have a question. What next? They sack eth, get another manager and then what? That manager will have these players in his team still. Maybe they’ll put in a performance one or two times but when they fall out they’ll throw the manager under the boss. Honestly I really eth and he has he’s flaws but he can succeed when he can’t get rid of the player giving him issues in that dressing room. Let’s take pep for instance, when he got to Barcelona he got rid of big personalities like Ronaldinho, Eto etc who had the ability to split that dressing room in half regardless of the fact that they were one of his best players at the time and we know the rest of the story. What I’m saying in essence is if the coach can’t get the players he wants and exit the players he doesn’t he won’t have full control over the team further leading to poor performance on the pitch as we can see with man united.
6 games in, and the drama queens are calling for blood. Sir, Alex didn't win anything in his first two / three seasons. You can't keep flipping managers on, it doesn't work, patience and time, ETH needs time,
Utter nonsense Laurence, Ruud won’t turn that club around, Jesus Christ couldn’t resurrect that club with the players that are there. They have sacked manager after manager and that will continue until the players are flushed
Mark Goldbridge has a large influence on fans online and his coverage of Rashford and Onana has been ridiculous, even yesterday when they were the 2 better players on the pitch. He's so obviously unreasonable with his scapegoating some of these players and glaringly uncritical of Erik Ten Hag that people have no choice but to assume he must be affiliated in some part with SEG, especially after that dudes claim about the Hojlund interview. I don't know if I'm convinced but Mark has influence within the fanbase and it would make sense for people to be, at the very least, angry at his obvious agendas.
@@mattdawson8600 1 guy with major influence within the fanbase and also happens to run one of the biggest fan channels in the world. If you don't think he has agendas that's fine but the way he talks about certain people and skews the truth, can and should be called out by the fanbase he represents.
Deluded mate - this is part of your problem. I would not swap anyone from your starting 11 for a Spurs starter. Until you wake up and realize that the quality of your players is poor you will continue to have unrealistic expectations. I hope they extend Ten Hags contract for another ten years or put him into a job share arrangement with Ole..
Any manager can't save United. They need a manager given the same power as Arteta was given at Arsenal. By that I mean allowed to dump Aubameyang, Özil an that other twat. They must also get rid of their medical staff.
Really bad ending to the video when you start defending your mate Goldbridge. He gets criticism from all of his former United Stand colleagues because when they decided to leave to set up their own channels, Mark gets pissy about it and would make sly digs on his channel. Mark always starts these petty fights with all of his ex colleagues. He can't accept that people might rather set up their own youtube channels and make a bit of money for themselves rather than it all going into Mark's pocket. Mark sees it as "I gave you a chance on youtube so you work for me forever" - he sees them as ungrateful
Ten Hag certainly doesn't come across as a man that's likeable or likely to display confidence that rubs off onto those around him ...as a strong man that one can be inspired by....in fact he comes across as a miserable person !! That's infectious ...!!
I love ur stuff bt u r SO wrong all the time on Kobbie. Hes hd a rubbish season (overplayed) bt hes still easy in the top 5 in the league for tackles and interceptions. AND HES AN 8, NOT A 6!
I called you out start of the season when you tried to predict Utd with scare you and all that crap. You made tons of vids saying how great yes will be, you clearly don’t know ball
haha, I very clearly laid that out! The team have clearly turned a corner on ETH and so have the management. That's the nature of what we do. Sometimes you swing for the fences and make a prediction. You're not calling anything out, you're saying that I was wrong on a prediction but your conclusion that I don't know ball? Just don't watch.
Not your best work here Laurence... really enjoyed your takes a classy channel but how does a video morph into a public defence of another youtuber, not even remarking on some of the controversial takes noted in the comments.
Listen their share price is pretty low at the moment…. As soon as they appoint RVN the share price will surge .Owners including Inios will make millions
He's dutch, so no surprise there about the ego thing. I know, I live in a country next to them. It should be named the Big Egolands, instead of the Netherlands.
I'm completely with Goldbridge on this one. The players are the real problem. ETH has certainly made mistakes but the dressing room is where the real problems exist
To have given him another summer transfer window with the thought that we will sack him if he starts poorly does seem confusing.
It’s setting him up for failure, that in itself is toxicity! Can’t build anything from that! Has to know that he’s here for the long run!
@@SidneyOko They gave him a contract extension...? He's been backed to the maximum, any failures are on him and him only.
Give him at least 4 more transfer windows, Liverpool fans would support this decision
@@SidneyOkoSo, the players of his signing doesn't want to play for him? Who to blame next? That bald fraud Hag need to leave.
@@shuraamano I never said that I’m just saying, a 1 year extension isn’t the most insuring in my opinion! Team not wanting to play with passion isn’t on him either! This has been an ongoing problem!
10:22 You can't say Kobbie doesn't do enough in defence when he's 4th in the entire league in Tackles and Interceptions, I think he's being tasked with too much responsibility if anything.
Watch garnacho, he's just shit
And this is his first full season while we got players who’ve played in UCL finals lol
Two things can be true at the same time
@@rwhitting102 If he's statistically doing more defensive work than most players, he really can't also not be doing enough unless you expect him to be a perfect machine.
Refreshing to see a Liverpool fan actually make good content on Man U and I have to admit I wasn’t to keen on Lawrence when he was on the kick off but watching him on here I think he’s great.
As an Arsenal fan I look at their era of underachieving and it’s lasted longer than Arsenal’s! From the outside looking in, I just couldn’t say what their problem is. But there IS a problem and they’re still in the phase of putting problems right. You don’t then just starting winnning big trophies. It’s all happening against a background of a Man City team so strong only Liverpool cracked them the once (in an odd year) and in the process broke themselves (again). When you’re through the phase of putting problems right, only then can you start to envisage the sort of improvement that’s currently required to win the League. Emery didn’t do a bad job at Arsenal but I felt he was getting a song out of a team that would never win a title, and he didn’t understand Arsenal’s manic need to climb that mountain now and then. Arteta’s early wobbles were those of a man who knew just how high the climb would have to be. He’s put the problems at Arsenal right, now all they’ve got to do is get better. I know this sounds vague and non-footballing but Man U always sound like a an operation that thinks putting problems right is the easy bit and getting better is hard but it’s the other way round. They always overrate the players they got, always think the era of getting better is just around the corner, but 3 wins means they think it’s the League title soon, 3 losses and they’re slitting throats and sacking the manager. But that pattern is now a Freudian repetition compulsion, the unconscious desire to repeat the very patterns that have left you where you find yourself today. Until Man U crack that repetition compulsion this pattern could run and run.
Maybe I'm clinging to the idea that ETH is the right man too much, but I feel like the issues on display today are the same issues that Mourinho, Ole and Rangnick all saw...
I dont understand what the issue is, but I dont feel confident enough to say that the blame should fall at the managers feet anymore. In my opinion, far more senior players should have been forced out over the summer so that the heirarchy can begin to address the systemic cultural issues in the squad and the wider club
I'm thinking the same, so you're not alone there.
I think both things you're saying can be true. Clearing deadwood is fine but deadwood players barely play anyways and when they leave the problems still remain, they need to clear the players that have been part of the big picture issues consistently, manager-to-manager; Rashford, Shaw, Lindelof, Maguire, maybe even Bruno at this point. But I also think the manager is still a big problem and way out of his depth. I really wish we had a cold-blooded ruthless with the players type of manager. I think of all the managers since SAF, Jose was the only one of those but he wasn't fully backed by the Glazers going into his final season which lead to the downfall of his time. People may hate the idea of a manager such as Tuchel, but that type of personality, while not a long term solution, is what I think is needed at this moment in time. It's the right type of ruthlessness needed for revitilizing a squad as long as they'd be backed.
@@NvFranco I'm not sure how you can accurately assess a manager while admitting that a large number of the squad are not up to scratch - and banking on sacking Ten Hag actually changing anything while the other problems are all still there doesn't seem very sensible to me, it feels more like it'll just entrench the culture of players failing and not getting any consequences because the manager is always blamed
@@dominichoad Pretty simple that he's had 5 transfer windows, over two years, over £600-million spent. The squad that played yesterday 10/16 of them were his signings. And I'm not shifting blame just on the manager, I do blame both but you can't sack a whole squad, especially outside of a window. You can still sack a manager to try and salvage and damage control the season. And you can give the players consequences if you hire a ruthless manager as I've said. Just for example, say Tuchel comes in, drops Rashford and Bruno, that is ruthless, those are consequences for poor form. If you sack the manager then hire a manager that 'fits the players' then you're not fixing the issues. This is what INEOS is responsible for, buy players that fit the system INEOS wants, hire managers that fit that philosophy. The problem under the Glazers was we'd hire a rigid possession based manager, then a defensively focused manager, then a counter attacking manager, then a gegenpressing manager, then a transitional manager. Then you'd have to chop and change players every window that fit vastly different system.
Look at the absolute top clubs, Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid. All these clubs change managers every 2/3 season, but all have consistent styles of play/philosophies and they still win. Barcelona let Xavi walk, Real let Carlo walk, Bayern let Flick go. HUgely talented and successful managers but there are standards. These clubs with set philosophies don't drop off cliffs when they change managers, the overall club philosophy is what makes you consistent, not holding onto managers/players. You're not going to replicate SAF/Pep/Klopp longevity, these are once in a generation type of managerial stints at peak level.
I disagree, I think the club has given Ten Haag the players that he wanted. If you look at the roster. He’s got fairly Ajax style players or players that fit his style. I think it’s up to Haag. He’s been given more then the previous manager you named.
Love your videos mate …the authenticity and thought put into it is amazing
As a Liverpool fan I will admit that there is still hope for Man U. At least Man U have a midfield that we would swap our own for. G Nev explained this pre-season
ETH lacks a personality to be a top manager. I don't think he is very personable either. Seems cold and distant.
He’s absolutely bizarre in press conferences. I’m not so sure that he makes any more sense in the dressing room either.
Tbf Alex Ferguson wasn't exactly the best dinner guest. The guy could hardly speak clearly. And yet he's the most successful premier league manager of all time.
@@Alx-h9g Ferguson was a hard arse and dropped any player no matter how big they were. He demanded respect, Ten Haag looks like a weakling, he lies every interview and conference. Excuses, Clearly can't man manage players. Sir Bobby Robson would make the effort to make everyone regardless of their mentality to get the best out of them. The players he had at Ajax aren't even listening to him.
He's lost the dressing room those players are not playing for him also he's a habitual liar
Heh!!...hehh??!!
Love your content style Loz
Great vid Lawrence, agree
Been waiting for you to post on this channel for a minute, appreciate your opinion as always
Mainoo is being left isolated to do the job of two midfielders because Bruno buggers off up the pitch, whenever there is a turnover, he is nowhere. Mainoo should not be left to do the job of everyone in midfield by himself. His style is not meant to be playing as a CDM or even a box to box 8, He needs a team that controls possession because his quality on the ball is brilliant. Ten Haag can't implement any style let alone a possession based one.
The clear out at United is only half done. Still plenty of personalities with questionable mentality: Rashford, Fernandes, Casemiro, Maguire, Dalot, Lindelof, Mount, and Antony to name a few
Great video as always, feels made in good faith, even if I don't agree on everything you said.
fan channels come for mark godbridge because he is more popular than them. that's all.
Mark wouldn't even be that popular if he was as "toxic" as some suggest
Goldfish isn’t even a United supporter he’s a Forest fan posing as a United fan cos it pays EXTREMELY well 💰 do not take him seriously…ever
@@Ball_Chat_FCmy guy Mark can be insufferable at times but saying he’s a NF fan because he was born in Nottingham is just idiotic. He grew up during Man United’s dominance him being a United fan makes perfect sense. Get a new criticism because that one is beyond tired.
@@darthbauer5153it’s pretty well known he’s an ex copper forest fan I know you don’t like to admit truth but try it sometime
@@Ball_Chat_FCYou just proved that you're a fan of that Saeed clown. I just checked his channel and I had to scroll past his 50 most popular videos before I found something relating to a win so people like him are the ones who wouldn't survive without Man Utd playing like this.
If you were to replace one person in this club to affect results whether its management, players or coaching staff, the manager is the single most influential person in the club.
Spurs' first goal, Twente's goal, Gravenbirch and Sobozlai against United, they're all the same, because its a tactical issue
There are countless other tactical issues that you can see, Big Sam wouldn't have United at a similar form
Ten Hag really came across as a broken man in the post match interview last night ! ....from a Liverpool supporter
Thanks for this, I think the heat on mark and Erik right now is out of order
Erik is coming to the end, but he isn’t a bad man, it just hadn’t worked
Mark is great at what he does, but people leach off him don’t they
Eric Ten Lives has another transfer window in him I'm sure of it
Spot on once again. I’m not someone who wants to sack managers but this isn’t sustainable
Hi Loz, big fan and I’ve been watching your content since the early podcast days.
Can I get your thoughts on who Liverpool can look at IF Virgil, Mo and Trent do decide to leave the club at the end of the season. Would be interested to know who tactically would fit into our team if one, two or three of those players do decide to leave.
Much love ❤️
Big up to Mark
His team looks like it’s always in such a rush to send the ball forward - it just makes them wasteful. It’s not the way his Ajax team played, so we’re not really judging him on the way he wants his team to play… which is just weird - they need to put him out of his misery
Ten Hag should waiting for his compensation if he push the management further to sack him. Or else I dun see any reason for MU not to release him of further misery.
People say Klopp and Arteta got 3-4 years to show progress... Reality is they took 3-4 years because clearance and changing of the squad took that much time with good and bad buying players. The first clearance for manchester united is this year after 2 full season of Ten hag. And we still have players in the squad who was playing under van gaal. Changes take time when done well, now imagine how much it take when done wrongly. Is ten hag at fault? Yes but not completely. He need to use the same tactics of the first season again with the players at his disposal but prefer to persist with a false kind of pressing. However i can understand he is looking on the long term, after the clearance of this year the most experience striker in the squad is Rashford (27). Garnacho still 19 and inconsistent, Amad first full season, Zirkzee need to adapt and Ramus too raw right now. Only the defence look good but dalot can't play on left against good team, that's not his position. Midfield we count too much on mainoo, eriksen and casemiro is too old now, Ugarte need to adapt, Mount injury prone and Fernandes is Fernandes. Don't forget Shaw the new Phil jones. Now tell me how to do a consistent playing team with that.
He came to MU 2 years ago at the age of 52. That's quite late for a manager career. Most decent managers would get a job in a big club at their 40s
It feels like he's being swallowed up by the pressure and has no idea what to do. He needs to step back and just focus on the basics. Some of these players need to take a good, hard look at themselves.
Honestly the real issue I can see (as a passive observer who only recently found Saeed because of his Chelsea videos) between him and Goldbridge is that Mark has a much bigger platform and brand recognition and kinda casually dismisses what Saeed considers to be the biggest problem at United which is ETH.
Which is always gonna be an issue.
In the same way as a Chelsea fan I’m seeing Rory on every show and podcast talking about how terrible everything is at Chelsea and nothing makes sense etc while every fan I know including myself hasn’t been as invested in the club as we are currently for years
Got all the parts to make a great team, but for some array of reasons (probably not the manager) it doesn't work
Ajax board to ETH: "Erik, get them to buy a few more players. The Ajax job is still waiting for you".
Give him a new contract
they're going to agree to voluntarily terminate his contract. They will do this under the guise of saving face but everyone knows what's what.
11:15 youre being far too kind loz
My problem with tenhag is his delusion
Roy Evans what a nightmare don't remind me.
Ten heg has lost 3, won 3, and drawn 1. It's not a great start, but it's not terrible. As for his tactics, well, that's harder to defend.
Wow its not terrible LOL?
I just love how you sneaked a win over 2nd division team in there as if that means anything.
The only win you could even barely claim is good is Fulham. Your other two are Southampton and Barnsley 🤣
Ruud is not the answer. We can't all pretend as if Ruud is no part of the coaching staff. We can't pretend as if Ruud is not on the sidelines discussing tactics with ETH. He's as much part of it as ETH at this point.
As a Liverpool supporter you should be unhappy that he's getting sacked.
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TH-camrs fighting is just boring to me - and I suspect most ppl.
Go and look at Bruno's red card. They got at least 3 camera views and pay attention to the reactions of the MU players. It's strange. Why is one center back who lost his Capt badge still on the team? How do the other team mates feel about his presence? What about Sancho? Do the new young players feel like MU will ruin their careers? Rashford look at his game on the pitch. Same thing he did back in 2016. Why is he still in the team? Looks like the owners only got rid of the players they could get money for and the rot remains.
ETH will go at the earliest in January. Not a moment sooner
It would be exceedingly strange if they held on to him...
Why? After all Steve Bruce is still managing in football 😊 - leave the man alone and accept it will take time.
@@nanakwabena.779 Hey, I'm a LFC supporter. I hope he stays there forever.
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Just on the Mark point, he quite clearly was sending out Anti-INEOS sentiments saying he’d protest against them if they sacked Ten Hag, like he should’ve been let go of after the Cup final.
Mark clearly has shown favorability to Rasmus & Antony and who give TUS interviews & exclusives (Team news etc.) over other players like Rashford & Maguire who have publicly pushed back against the Clickbait & fake stories Mark runs on his channel.
Your point against Saeed is slightly null & void, your implying that he believes Mark is at fault for what’s going on at United, obviously not, but he’s spoken about his opinions on INEOS & TH.
Should check out UtdMuppitiers, much more balanced view on United, really great creator.
But that’s my point, it’s not deep enough to say this stuff. My Saeed point stands because he clearly has an issue with Mark. I want to know what.
@@laurencemckenna from what i watched from mark rants united view and seadd its fairly clear to me that seadd and rants are almost very bitter about where club is while mark is like most of the time very dissmissive about what they largely consider ten hags fault i think the problem they have with mark focuses around that
the real concern right now is are they going to able to find good replacements for him
@@laurencemckenna You forget how tribal football can be is because it is that deep to some. It makes perfect sense to be very angry at someone you think is poisoning the well, especially if they have influence within the community.
I don’t get the mark criticism. I feel like he only gets hate because he used to follow Forrest as a kid. People can change
Don't tell them the truth! In ETH the league trusts😊
im a big man united fan, I just hope they would lose big on the upcoming few games and get rid of ten hag for good and start fresh. we have seen enough what he's able to do as a man united coach. why keeping false hope and drag any longer.
My guess is that there's something rotten in the Man Utd dressing room that ETH hasn't addressed.
I'm willing to break the law to get Ancelotti 😂
The football side of the club has been in disarray for years due the the cancerous tumour called the Glazers. INEOS are relatively new to the club. TH is not really their man , they didn’t appoint him. It’s a club in transition. It will take much more time. The culture has been all wrong. When TH arrived he said that he didn’t have the players he needed to play the way he wanted to. That tells you something about the club. Transitions are often painful.
Onana slightly better than Vicario, are you mad?
The problem in the team is Ronaldo… I mean Sancho… eh… no one else to blame?
The cycle of sacking managers every 3 years will continue if these players don't fix up and start playing for the club. Mourinho couldn't fix this team. Rangnick was right we need "open heart surgery"
Most of those players are his. He's spent 600m.
@StephenC-k5o they sack managers for not winning league titles and Champions Leagues, this lot sack managers because they are in midtable
The patience from the fans has run out. I have no doubt that Eric gave his all and tried his best to get something going. He isn't the right manager for us at the moment but we seriously need to rethink what sacking him means. We get lets say Tuchel, sure he will want to spend even more money to bring more overpaid players in. It's a circus Laurence
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Game’s gone. A liverpool fan defending a man united fan from other man united fans is a terrible vibe. There are times when we need to come together but this is hardly one of those times 😂
I personally feel it’s not the managers fault. In fact, to be completely honest it’s the fault of the players. They do this every time. Always down tooling on the manager when they don’t like him anymore. We saw this with mourinho, Ole, rangnick and now with eth. The funniest part of all this is these players are still here and regardless of who the manager whenever they aren’t feeling the manager anymore they down tool. What happened to playing for the badge? For the fans? For the people who lost their lives playing for the club? It’s an identity issue and I personally feel these are not the right players mentality wise for this team. It’s really a shame what these players are doing can’t lie. I want my team back. Get rid of these frauds.
A manager's job is to get the players on board. Mourinho didn't get the players he wanted and he rightly didn't like players that didn't apply themselves. Ten Haag got all the players he wanted and still nothing has changed. The only player he didn't get who he wanted was De Jong. All the other players he has brought in who he had at Ajax has looked awful, he would as well.
If anything, the fact that he feels he needs to just buy all the players he had that earned him that initial reputation and they look crap is even worse. Ten Haag is telling you he doesn't believe in his ability to coach new different talent. If he had the ability to get all of that Ajax team he had and trade it, he would. It shows he has no real desire to progress his ideas or take the time and create new ones. He lives in a dream world like a one hit wonder. I beg Man U keep him because the best he can do this season is scrape a top half finish.
City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa, Spurs, Brighton are all better and they all have belief and understanding in their manager and tactics. So Man U are already 9th, There are midtable clubs in the Prem that will battle and have brilliant spells attaining points. Fulham, West Ham, Brentford, Bournemouth, Forest. Considering everyone though Palace were somehow dark horses for a European push, if they make a late surge. Man U couldn't even beat them. Ten Haag can't muster a style or tactic to battle a Premier League season, he got cup trophies through lucky player individual brilliance. 3 years he's had, what has changed? They look worse.
I understand what you are saying, but I have a question. What next? They sack eth, get another manager and then what? That manager will have these players in his team still. Maybe they’ll put in a performance one or two times but when they fall out they’ll throw the manager under the boss. Honestly I really eth and he has he’s flaws but he can succeed when he can’t get rid of the player giving him issues in that dressing room. Let’s take pep for instance, when he got to Barcelona he got rid of big personalities like Ronaldinho, Eto etc who had the ability to split that dressing room in half regardless of the fact that they were one of his best players at the time and we know the rest of the story. What I’m saying in essence is if the coach can’t get the players he wants and exit the players he doesn’t he won’t have full control over the team further leading to poor performance on the pitch as we can see with man united.
6 games in, and the drama queens are calling for blood. Sir, Alex didn't win anything in his first two / three seasons. You can't keep flipping managers on, it doesn't work, patience and time, ETH needs time,
Utter nonsense Laurence, Ruud won’t turn that club around, Jesus Christ couldn’t resurrect that club with the players that are there. They have sacked manager after manager and that will continue until the players are flushed
It’s a completely different squad?🤣😂😂
Mark Goldbridge has a large influence on fans online and his coverage of Rashford and Onana has been ridiculous, even yesterday when they were the 2 better players on the pitch. He's so obviously unreasonable with his scapegoating some of these players and glaringly uncritical of Erik Ten Hag that people have no choice but to assume he must be affiliated in some part with SEG, especially after that dudes claim about the Hojlund interview. I don't know if I'm convinced but Mark has influence within the fanbase and it would make sense for people to be, at the very least, angry at his obvious agendas.
He's just 1 guy with an opinion, which you can view as right or wrong. Understandable if you don't like him, but he deffo doesn't has agendas
@@mattdawson8600 1 guy with major influence within the fanbase and also happens to run one of the biggest fan channels in the world. If you don't think he has agendas that's fine but the way he talks about certain people and skews the truth, can and should be called out by the fanbase he represents.
the Rashford sympathizer has arrived. Please give him a new 4 year contract. He is the English version of Vinicius Junior
Deluded mate - this is part of your problem. I would not swap anyone from your starting 11 for a Spurs starter. Until you wake up and realize that the quality of your players is poor you will continue to have unrealistic expectations. I hope they extend Ten Hags contract for another ten years or put him into a job share arrangement with Ole..
Onana is shit. Buying him was evidence ETH is shit too.
My deep tactical and strategic analysis.
Any manager can't save United. They need a manager given the same power as Arteta was given at Arsenal. By that I mean allowed to dump Aubameyang, Özil an that other twat. They must also get rid of their medical staff.
Really bad ending to the video when you start defending your mate Goldbridge. He gets criticism from all of his former United Stand colleagues because when they decided to leave to set up their own channels, Mark gets pissy about it and would make sly digs on his channel. Mark always starts these petty fights with all of his ex colleagues. He can't accept that people might rather set up their own youtube channels and make a bit of money for themselves rather than it all going into Mark's pocket. Mark sees it as "I gave you a chance on youtube so you work for me forever" - he sees them as ungrateful
Ten Hag certainly doesn't come across as a man that's likeable or likely to display confidence that rubs off onto those around him ...as a strong man that one can be inspired by....in fact he comes across as a miserable person !! That's infectious ...!!
Kobbie mainoo is too slow... He won't be able to run the midfield
you better hope not!!!!
I hope he doesnt get sacked, i need weekly entertainment from united losing, and mark goldbridge losing his head lol 😂😂
Turned off when you said Onana is better than Vicario, and that's from an Arsenal fan.
I hope not
I love ur stuff bt u r SO wrong all the time on Kobbie. Hes hd a rubbish season (overplayed) bt hes still easy in the top 5 in the league for tackles and interceptions. AND HES AN 8, NOT A 6!
Did you just bring up a kit man leaving as a reason a team would play awful to their rivals at home. Did I actually hear that
75% of Mark Goldfish's content is about 7Hag... what will he do?
I called you out start of the season when you tried to predict Utd with scare you and all that crap. You made tons of vids saying how great yes will be, you clearly don’t know ball
haha, I very clearly laid that out! The team have clearly turned a corner on ETH and so have the management. That's the nature of what we do. Sometimes you swing for the fences and make a prediction. You're not calling anything out, you're saying that I was wrong on a prediction but your conclusion that I don't know ball? Just don't watch.
@@laurencemckenna nah I just hate Utd mate and hate when people think they’ll do well 😂
Not your best work here Laurence... really enjoyed your takes a classy channel but how does a video morph into a public defence of another youtuber, not even remarking on some of the controversial takes noted in the comments.
Nobody wants that
Spurs have a much better team the united. Like without a doubt.
Listen their share price is pretty low at the moment…. As soon as they appoint RVN the share price will surge .Owners including Inios will make millions
I'm surprised Erik Ten Hag is still there. He has a huge ego, which ain't good for anybody.
He's dutch, so no surprise there about the ego thing. I know, I live in a country next to them. It should be named the Big Egolands, instead of the Netherlands.
all managers have big egos. You cannot make it at this level without it
Laurence you’ve been wrong about united for over a year now making videos “united scare me” talk your shit this team is ass and so is the manager 😊
That’s not true though. I laid out why I think it’s changed very clearly 😂
I'm completely with Goldbridge on this one. The players are the real problem. ETH has certainly made mistakes but the dressing room is where the real problems exist
I’m a Man Utd fan, but you genuinely seem more frustrated than some Man Utd fans 😅😅😅…but jokes aside 100% Eric Ten hag should go.