Gibson Memphis ES-335 vs Epiphone Dot Tone Comparison
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- Thanks for watching another Tone Shoot Out! Today's battle is between the Epiphone Dot, a lean mean semi hollow body machine, and the Gibson Memphis ES-335, the Godfather of classic bluesy semi hollow body tone, sleek and distinguished. Here to battle out for reasons of tone alone.
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Bless you for doing a clean tones review. Drives me crazy when reviewers "compare" guitars while rocking out with 13 different pedals.
I have the natural ability of making either guitars sound like shite, so I guess I’ll get the cheaper one
I relate to this
PurpleLightning6was9 it’s a talent
Ha ha
Ditto
Its a skill. You get out what you put in.. i was in a rut my first like 5 years made no progress after the first year Then i started actually practicing instead of just playing stuff i already could do. You spend 10 minutes a day doing drills like spider walks you will improve
Buy the dot, switch the pickups out if you want a brighter tone. Still save 2k.
Might as well put real grovers on, re-wire it and chuck in a switchcraft switch and some vintage taper pots, chuck on a real bone nut, re-fret it with evo-gold or stainless and fit the best boutique PAFs money can buy..
And still save 2k.
If want a brighter sound don't buy the Dot. There are guitars out there
I put a P-90 (single coil) in the neck position on my Epiphone Dot. I can now get that clean ringing tone (ie Duane Allman).
More like 4k
I agree totally but I have the little sister the es339 pro because of the weight and the size.
The car I drive cost me $750. I'll take the Dot i guess.
well said sir!
😂😂
If you can't hear the difference, don't pay the difference!
That's cool. You got me. Good one. May I use it?
I can definitely hear the difference. Just not $2500 worth of difference.
What if you feel the difference, the fretboard and tone is that makes me buy a guitar
@潘卓Pan_Cho you couldn't quantify the difference easily but it certainly would give you the opportunity to customise and shape the sound to how you need it
@alterdestiny as what?
One of the few reviews where the guitars are actually in tune.
Nice, ain't it?
A few points: 1. My Epiphone Dot got knocked over on stage during a sound check. No damage done but I was very happy it was not my Gibson ES-335 2. My Epiphone is cherry red and is constantly being complimented for its appearance...it's like stage makeup that visually suits Rock and Blues. People hear with their ears 3. The Epiphone sounds MORE like my Gibson (fuller and fatter) when using fingers instead of picks in my experience. 4. I listened to this video before I watched it and I could tell which guitar was being played when, just like I can tell the difference between my own Gibson and Epi, BUT the more I play the Epiphone, the more adept I get at getting the sound I want from it, either by messing with the tone on the guitar or amp (one person suggested EQing) or just picking the strings closer to the neck (for rhythm) or the bridge (for treble). It's a cheap way of instantly multiplying the variety of tone. Once you start working/gigging a guitar, it will blossom. BOTH guitars in this video sounded good, one just sounded "better" 5. The Gibson isn't easily replaceable but the Epiphone is and lastly 6. Get the Epiphone professionally setup (setting up is an art, get someone who knows what they are doing) and the guitar will feel a lot closer to a Gibson ES-335. OH and one more thing, be happy with what you can afford and enjoy playing and KEEP PLAYING whatever you decide to purchase.
Bill Gross Absolutely spot on. I’ve played Gibsons in the store and they’ve felt dreadful because the factory setup was poor. I’ve had Epiphones from China and Korea and they have all been fabulous sounding and playing instruments; the pickups on my Korean one were beautiful and all I did was change the switch and get the standard nut grooves slightly filed and the frets levelled.....oiled board, polished with new knobs and played through a Twin with the right pedals.....awesome.
Truth wins. Comments and shared observations gratefully and sincerely appreciated and valued. Thanks mate.
best comment on the video.
Good points. Blues is about using what you have and make it work. With practice and experimentation you can get all kinds of tones out of any guitar.
Great comment
If you upgrade the Dot with Fralin pickups I doubt there would be that much difference in the sound. For the average player working for bars, open mics etc the Dot would be fine. I've used the Dot and ES335 and while I know the difference the audience could care less.
William von Zangenberg I bought a used dot and I agree it needed some better pickups. Something about it just wasn't there. It came with full size pots. So I just put nicer capacitors in it and it didn't do anything to it.
So the audience does care?
I got a Dot about 8 years ago. Replaced the bridge, nut, pots, caps, jack, tuners and switch... and replaced the pickups. It is a great sounding and playing guitar. I got comments on it all the time, one of the best sounding guitars I ever had (and I've had a few). Even with all that, I still spent half of what I would have buying a Gibson and it was a really fun project and I learned a lot. I would do it again in a heartbeat... in fact I'm thinking I might buy the Epi 335 PRO and do it again.
The dot may actually whoop its ass with new pickups.
Exactly!
Somehow the Gibson sounds brighter. I like the sound of the epiphone
I also like the darker sound of my Epiphone Dot. I think the brighter sound of the Gibson is not so much the difference in pickups but rather the maple center block in the Gibsons whereas the Epiphones have a mahogany center block. The Sheraton uses a maple center block but I personally took a pass on one in favor of the Dot.
Yes its brighter= cleaner tone, much superior product in every way. Woods to hardware Gibson uses only uses best.
@@HouseMerlot that's just a start of a longer list why Gibson's are superior. #1 the Gibson uses Nitrocellulose finish & Epiphone is just standard Polyurethane. Fret board Gibson uses only a Special SELECTED grown rosewood fingerboard of highest quality, & Epiphone uses (I CANNOT pronounce it) but it's a common form SIMULAR to Rosewood, very inexpensive (cheaper quality):: Then the wiring, Gibson's are also in top mine are hand wired, w/ cloth instead of plastic wrapping.From bridges to tailpiece the Gibson only uses the best hardware not aluminum cast. Pups well, they can be changed, to whatever your choice. GIBSON HOLDS ITS VALUE WHERE EPIPHONE LOSES IN VALUE. JUST THE NAME ALONE MEANS A TRADITIONAL VALUE OF ONE OF THE BEST GUITARS AND TOP NOTCH QUALITY. GIBSON HAD SOME SETBACKS BUT HAS OVERCOME THEM.MY #1 IS JUST A ES-335 '60 VRI; IT PLAYS BY ITSELF. FOR A INVESTMENT AND QUALITY LASTING GUITAR GIBSON IS #1 WHEN COMPARED TO THE EPIPHONE. BUT EPIPHONE ARE GREAT FOR GIGGING NOT AFRAID TO HAVE EM KNOCKED AROUND, CAUSE PRICE IS AFFORDABLE. I GUESS DEPENDING UPON WHAT LEVEL OF PLAYING YOUR AT ?
@@jimkostan9932 If you are looking for an heirloom to pass down to your kids, the Gibson wins every time. If you are Larry Carlton getting paid for your session work, you damn well better show up with the Gibson. But otherwise, this video pretty much proves that the guitars are at least comparable, so you should have a reason to justify the increased cost. You are right, I wouldn't bring a Gibson 335 to a bar gig. I am actually a bass player for more than 50 years, so I brought the Epiphone just to play around and record some dark Jazz melodies in my home studio. It would be crazy for me to spend the money on a Gibson. Thank god for the Epiphone alternative.
@@jimkostan9932 heritage guitars are the only real gibsons.
“Gibsons” aren inferior to the real ones made in kalamazoo And more expensive.
Great Video. I would love a Gibson but at my weekend warrior ability in a dad band I can't factor in spending that much and my wife would kill me. I like the Epiphone just for the price and it gets me by. Most people won't tell a difference and the people that can tell a difference support me for just trying to make music and doing what I love with it when I can.
amen joel well said
Bro do it your wife will get over it
@@davidramos4317 Yep Joel, ask for forgiveness not permission.
My wife hahahhaha. Sorry. Marriage sounds so bad lol.
Down with you brah. Guitar is a huge passion of mine, but as long as I ain't a professional, profit-making musician, I'll let that passion flow by practising hard and buying a *decent* instrument, rather than a priceless one.
I agree also and they're usually showing off, entertaining themselves and seeking attention with those blazing riffs and we all get it. When shopping an electric guitar, you have to go for how genuinely clean and/or versatile the pickups are which is priority over using effects. Distortion and effects will only masquerade the true character of the pickups in these types of demos.
Very well done comparison. Great job. I have an Epiphone Dot Studio that I love. When I played a Gibson 335 I was in a different world. Just the quality of make of the guitar took my breath away.
Nothing beats playing a guitar yourself and feeling out how it plays.
Yeah for example they say the LTD 1000's are amazing.. Hmm well i see people almost handing them out. Also I played a few and thought the guitars were terrible.
Hmmm.........For $400 I can get a great sounding semi-hollow body guitar. For I extra $2,500 plus, I can get the Gibson logo on the head stock. Think I'll just spend the $400 on the Epiphone.
Andrea Pasillas Exactly. If they gave one the exact same guitar, and painted Gibson on the headstock, Gibsonites wouldn't think twice about buying it. I just got 4 very nice Epiphones, for less than the price of 1 Gibson.
Mister Knight Owl b.s. but delighted that all you Gibson snobs think so.
jaden75
jaden75 There is really not that much difference. And I've been playing for decades. Huge part of people's reaction is purely psychological i.e. it's a Gibson so it MUST sound so much better. Jo Bonamassa has said it, that there is 5 - 10% difference between in sound and tone between a guitar worth thousands and a $600 replica.
you are crazy, I work in production I have a spectrograph minor tonal difference, let me EQ that Epi, you won't tell the difference. dead serious, all the Epi needs its an EQ or a new set of pickups, the rest is fluff
jaden75 If you're playing for guitar snobs perhaps, but there is NO WAY, an audience would know the difference, or care.
I’m a huge dot fan. It’s perfect for everyone and it is easily affordable. I use them live all the time
And in my opinion that’s the bottom line here,you take your 335 out to an open mike you’re always freaking out some drunk is going to knock it over.
The Dot on the other hand it doesn’t matter, it’s no big deal if it gets a few nicks and scratches.
I used the money for more guitar lessons.
No difference?? I clearly hear that Gibson got more clear and accurate sound for me. Specially i am sure that if you do recording, you will find out more differences.
I hear it too. At the same time just upgrade the Epi's pick ups and you can probably get really close to the sounds of the Gibson.
I can hear the difference, but they sound more similar in this demo than in other videos I've watched.
Love that Gibson, but got to say the epiphone sounds pretty sweet to me, and totally dig your classic blues playing, you got me wanting to play, and play of of those epiphones would be good, cheers.
epiphone nice thick deep tone ive allways liked them great for the price gibson way ouy of line like harley davidson way to exspensive for what you get
The epi sounds like the tone knob was turned, cutting the bright highs.
Not sure what cap values are in Epi 335's. But it might be just a change in those to bring those highs out.
gutbucket I have had absolutely amazing results with pickup and cap swaps in Epis. I have no doubt with a nice set of SD pickups and a couple caps this Epi would sound just as good or better. I let my Gibson collecting friend borrow my LP Standard with SD antiquities and new caps and he loved it, played with the best of them. I get why people buy Gibsons, I have one myself, but for anyone purely interested in the sound and playability, because an Epi with a couple hundred dollars of work will play like a Gibson guitar 5 to 10 times as much.
3 Year Late Reply:
That's What I Wondered Did He Set Both Guitars To The Same Tonal Settings For Each Comparison? 🤔
I just bought the 2017 Gibson Memphis es-335 A couple of hours ago. What attracted me to the Guitar with the fact that it was the Memphis model, it had block inlays and Grover tuners. The color that I got is faded light burst.So far I’m really pleased with it. I plan to use it for blues, jazz, and light rock.
I own a Dot for which I paid $399. I have owned a Gibson ES345 in the past,---I like the neck better on the Dot. Fit and finish on the Dot is immaculate. Beside the fact that the neck is spliced together (which I could care less)---they sound pretty similar. But the main thing is that I do not know many people who go direct into an amp anymore. The sound of your effects actually makes more of a difference than the pickup sound...
They both sounded amazing in your hands
best point i have heard made on these tone shoot outs: "it's always about the player and not the guitar itself"
Love videos like this. Gotta say...my Epi Dot is pretty freakin' great. Put a little work and a little love in those Epis and they turn into great guitars.
I've never played a true gibson es335, but I've played an older epiphone version of it. Plugged into an OG fender deluxe reverb it sounded absolutely amazing.
I have owned a number of expensive guitars Gibson ES 175, D'Angelico 2002 NYL2, etc. I paid 400 dollars for a Epiphone ES 335 pro and replaced the 3way switch with a Switchcraft 3 way switch, cleaned up the nut and it is a great guitar. I love the neck (slim D). I didn't like the Dot's neck that I had. As far as tone, see Erik te Kamp's video A-B Test between the Gibson and Epi Pro.
The homogeny and similarity between the two guitars as I’m hearing in this video is why I purchased a Sheraton II for my first ever archtop guitar. I don’t have it today anymore, but I imagine replacing it. My major issue today with Epiphone is that they manufacture most of their products in China.
Between the humbuckers and the semi-hollow cavity, overdrive in the bridge pickup position on either of these comes out that much crunchier than on many other models.
And the problem with China..?
@@multipipi1234 they eat bats.
Epiphone in one hand ,Gibson in the other. Guild t shirt and a Fender card Lanyard (just an observation). Good idea to compare the two extremes.
;)
Kent Bernard I was just about to comment on the Guild tee-shirt, but you’ve said it!!! Now I’m off to investigate the Starfire... !!!😃
That Gibson looks and sounds pretty. Richer to my ear, but the dots sounds good, too. Thanks for posting.
Upgrade the electrics and get a good luthier to set it up , still saving lots of money , unless you have to have Gibson on the headstock .
Its not just having gibson on the headstock. Its a valuable asset. Youcan pl or 10-20 years and sell it for what you paid for it. If not more
They both sound great. The Gibson has more bite and a little more clarity though.
Though, if you are playing jazz with a lot of neck pickup and looking for that hyper buttery muted tone, those differences are going to rapidly become less meaningful.
As others have mentioned, you can literally buy Gibson pickups for a $200-300 and still save $2000 to get a better amp haha.
Gibson is more of a lifestyle brand you buy to have the name these days.
I love the sound of the 335, the Sheraton pro ii is my next buy. Amazing playing, you got skill.
I love my Gibson Les Paul my Epiphone LP no comparison.
I wanted an ES335 had a 1972 a long time ago. I opted for a 1980 Ibanez LR10 freaking amazing
The Gibson has better definition between notes in clean settings. The Epiphone sounds better in overdrive.
Just buy the guitar you like and play.
This is easily the best comparison of the two I’ve heard/seen.
Also the main thing is intonation. They’re both excellent.
Thanks!
While I would love the 335 , my ability as a player and my financial situation couldn’t justify it , but the Dot suits me just fine.
4:56 is this “blues”? I love this style of music but when I type in “blues” into TH-cam the vast majority of the things I find I don’t actually like and feels very different?
I own a Dot and am quite happy with it. The Gibby sounds a little more focused to me, but I can live with the Epi tone. That is a very attractive 335 with the flame top and sunburst tones.
I have a red Epi just like that. Amazing guitar! No problems or complaints
@@peterpanassow7814 I found it a little dark in my band setting, so I took off the pickup covers, melted away the wax potting, put in an Alnico 5 magnet (neck position) and it was perfect. I left the covers off, since they feedback unless I wax the inside, which I don't feel like doing.
Sounds like junior Kimbrough playing, love that feel
I have an epiphone dot too, I've replaced the stock pickups with Seymour Duncan antiquity humbucker, and now... It's not the same guitar, a lot deeper, more rich, a lot closer to the Gibson sound
mask57000 I put Seymour Duncan hot rodded pair ( Guess they are a jazz /neck and jb/bridge) and frankly yes an improvement but not getting the Gibson sound 100%. . Changed the nut for a graphtec. A friend has the oroginal Gibby es335 and the neck playability feels in another level. So I sanded the back of the neck on my dot and yes one improvement more. But definitely not the Gibson feel. Maybe I have to take off the paint and repaint it with nitrolaquer in order to get closer to the real think. Cheers.
The tone of that Gibson. My God. Gorgeous...
An old guy having fun, so cant justify a high-end guitar, same as my dinky little 10w amp and very retro Zoom II pedal. So the Dot would do me fine, I actually like the sound too
First time I've ever watched and listened to a review by Nick at AGC. No question one of the best reviewers I've seen and heard. You got integrity m'friend. You kept it real. Just keep doing you. Every time.Truly appreciated.
I bought my Epiphone dot cherry 8 years ago and I am very happy with it. No quality problems. I have a good Vox amplifier and a Zoom G2nu... I get all kind of sounds i want for less than 1000€. Further more my Epiphone looks great. I am not a professional player so I have a lot of fun for that money.
I've had an Epiphone Dot for three years now and I love it. It's versatile, sounds great and plays great. Great deal and I think it's excellent value for money. Trust me when I say you're not giving anything up by buying the Epiphone.
Gibson to my ear... but in the end it’s up to the player and the type of music they want to hear. All Gibson’s sound muddy to me. I’d take a tele over both of them or a Japanese Gretsch any day.
Yeah the Gibson is obviously sounding better. I agree I hate the muddy sounds. I have a strat with an EMG passive in the bridge and it's so gainey but bright and clear it's incredible.
Nick, this is one of my favorite videos. I love the loops you put together for the video. My personal choice would be the Gibson. Those pickups sound so clear! Thank you!
Thanks for the digs Paul!
I bought an Epiphone ES-339 and am completely happy with it. No way I could afford the price of a Gibson. The Epiphone though sounds brilliant running through a Fender Mustang V2. I mainly use presets I've made around Fender's clean amps with a tubescreamer thrown in. Looking forward to plugging it into a Boss Katana in 2020.
I don’t know why everybody goes gaga over the 335. I have an EPI dot.. I also have a 1963 Gibson 330 TDC that I have owned since 67.. they look the same if you don’t look too close in the shape of the body, but the 330 is shorter in length. It makes it much easier to play those bar chords on the first and second fret. I just can’t play a 335 Down low like I can by 330. I also had an EPI Riviera with 3P 90s. Same deal, hello frets were too far away..
as far as justifying a Gibson over and EPI. I have a Gibson Les Paul standard gold top. I have had several EPI les paul standards. I actually like the EPI honey burst standard I wants had better than my gold top Gibson.I recently, November 2019, picked up and EPI 56 gold top with P90s.. this is my favorite Lespaul.. The EPI 56 gold top.
guitars are like women. You got to feel them in action.. you have to run your hand up and down the body ,Turn the knobs, Run your fingers up and down the neck........listen to them in action. make them squeal..... they take your money....But you don’t care if they do all the right things.They may look the same, but they all feel different.. I can’t always tell by looking, but with the lights down low, without looking, I can tell a good one soon as I get my hands on it..
The main difference between a guitar and a woman is, With a guitar, you can always get your money back
Marketing man.
just ordered a Dot I have some other guitars. I play for fun if I made money with my guitar playing personally, I could justify the Gibson. Thanks for the review
Oh yeah, nice playing and thank you for doing the review.
No shade on Gibson, and if money is no object, I'm sure it's worth it. I might even see myself spending $$$ to get one someday, but for now all I can say is that I just recently bought a 2005 Korean-made "Dot", and I can't take my hands off it! It is just that much fun to play. Even unplugged, it sounds great, has incredible sustain and the whole body vibrates. And seriously: if Epiphone was a good enough brand for John and George to play, it can't be bad, right? Dot!!
Fun playin’ I would go for the red one, or actually get a very cheap one like those firefly ones. And mod them to my liking :) I think it’s mostly the player who makes the guitar sound good. I’d put some ebony oil on the rosewood fretboard if I had it. :) makes e’m come to life.
really like your commentary, fresh & direct
The Epi sounds amazing. Love the look too.
This is one of the best side-by-side comparisons I've seen(heard). Well done!
I've heard from 1 of the largest vintage guitar stores in America and he told me that he doesn't have a Gibson come into the shop without having to send it to the luthier. That's sad gibson has had that name but they've cut corners and craftsman are far and few between. I hope Gibson can come back but they may have caused to much damage I feel like epiphone is making better guitars in 2020 looking back 5-10 years
Insane color on the Gibson... That's not your normal burst, what color is that? Thanks.
SgtBFGunner It’s called “faded light burst”.
I bought my Epi Dot off Craigslist for $200. a few years back - one of the best buys to date!
nice ❕ i have a recent Epi es-335 purchase that seems to be the exact replica of this Gibson es-335 ❕
no regrets on the budget price 🎸🐸🍀
They just sound different, not better or worse. Both good guitars. My budget is less than the Epi, so I spent only $400AUD on an Artist branded ES Brownburst 335 style guitar, and sounds great! Tonally somewhere in between these two, but again, no better, no worse, just different.
I have an Epiphone Dot (burstbucker pros) and a Gibson DG-335 (burstbucker 2 and 3). I agree that the Dot will sound just as good as the Gibson if you change the pickups, but Gibson feels much better and I think that the feel is just as important as the sound. Now, you are the one to decide wether you wanna spend much more for the feel or not.
Richard Noriega I've got a Dot and I've just got some Burstbucker 2 and 3s... hoping to get that DG-335 sound that you have!
John Horning I hope you'll enjoy the sound!!! They are definitely my fav pickups!
I owned an Epiphone Dot and had to do a couple things to make it play descent. The garbage Tune-O-Magic that came on it needed to be replaced. What a shame Gibson still uses this old technology. I bought a better one from Stew Mac. I replaced the nut and did a neck/fret job on it and it played very nice. The dot is a fair value for the money ($500) but to make it sound better, you would need to swap pickups.
If you want a great value, get a cheap Squire for $99.00. Spend another $100 on a roller nut, roller saddles and Fender locking tuners. Do a neck/fret job (this will cost extra if you can't do it yourself). The saddles and nut need minor trimming to fit but easy to do. I have done 3 of these so far and everyone that has played them say they play as good as the much more expensive Fenders (that aren't worth the money either). In all I spent about 2 hours doing the mod. Don't waste your money on Fender and Gibson. There are much better choices for great expensive guitars.
MegaGuitarpicker man you are so right. I love fender and gibson. Have both. But also have epiphones as well. In the hands of the right technician the more moderately priced guitars match in every way the expensive name guitars. People are easily fooled by names. Keep rockin'
Great guitars & video. I almost purchased the DOT, but picked up a Gretsch Streamliner G2622T instead, great sound, great cost as well!!
A guitar priced at 5k+ is just not worth it. When you get in the 1k+ range you can really tell differences, mostly in play-ability but definitely in sound as well, but when you get much past 1.5k to 2k it's very hard to tell the difference. Best advice I could give to new players is once you get to the point where you think guitar will be a long lasting hobby (or maybe career?) for you, and you already have a fairly nice amp, just go play all different types of guitars in-between the 1k and 2k price-point and buy one. Don't even bother with anything over 2k. I've owned and played several guitars from almost any price point and that is the conclusion I've come to.
Nick great playing man. I was listening to you play while browsing for 335 guitars. So i couldn't honestly tell when you switched.
I think that says alot. I had enough attention to like the music you were playing but not enough to hear any real differences.
I just did a side by side with an Epi es 335 pro( basically a Dot with small block inlays ) and an Epi Sheraton II. The Dot sounded fine, but it didn't feel nearly as nice as any Gibson I've played. The Sheraton Sounded really good, and felt better than several Gibsons I've played.
The audio difference is significant, but that's not all..
You spend 10x as much on the 335 because it feels better, therefore it's more fun to play. Additionally, it's a wonderful piece of art..
Nothing actually wrong with my Dot except always sounds a bit dull. I upgraded to an Ibanez AS93 which I love. Don't get me wrong I'd love a 335 but its the price and already have an SG and LP. Or could go Eastman or Tokai. Depends of course on your home market but in NZ you are quite limited and prices are high.
The Epiphone is alot warmer, which I personally prefer. It's got that Vintage sound that I always look for I guitars. The Gibsons nice, but it's too bright. I need a fair amount of low end.
The finish and tone on the Gibson is awesome to me i like the highs i hear on it
Great vid, I like your personality & playing
Love both, I have a Epiphone Sheraton at the moment which I am loving
For the "Cork Sniffers" it will always be Gibson. I don't see the cost of a Gibby making it that much better. You can upgrade a Dot and have a great guitar for a lot less the price.
you are such a great musician... I watched the video twice and hardly paid attention to the guitars
The things you play and how you play them make this a great video. Love that bluesy stuff... That together with your own personal ideas shared here, I really like it, a lott!
Whit my headphones dot has more darker smoother mellow sound.
But gibson has that crispy attack.
I like dot even better myself
Great video, you sound great man!!!!
why not compare the epiphone es 335 pro instead of the "Dot"
Matthew Cana
Right!
Matthew Cana I have the es 335 pro its better to me.
what does PRO mean?? Is it just the P-90s instead of the humbuckers? are those supposed to be better?
Nah theres a pro version of the 335 by epi, it has bock inlays and nicer pickups, still humbuckers
The 335 Pro has Alnico pickups not Humbuckers so they arent as sound suppressing as the Buckers but still nice.
I may be a little late to this party,but here is my suggestion.....IF you play Jazz or R&B,get the Dot,and replace the pickups with Gibson 57's,then add a set of Thomastik Infeld George Benson GR112 strings. You CAN"T tell the difference when it's playing with the band.If you want to hear it, just listen to any of my videos.
if I could afford the gibson then yes but they r 2 2 pricey and epi is the right price and affordable if need b put duncans to make an exact gibson sound
In the very beginning of the video I was looking at something else I was doing and I never even heard that you switched guitars. The only way I knew was by catching the last second or two of that part and seeing you play the Epiphone. If someone used a Dot on a record I'd probably never even know what guitar it was. It would sound good to me. Now feel would probably be a whole other thing.
They both sound awesome. It’s like a telecaster and a Strat. But I believe if they are set up right. Then you have the best of both worlds. But mostly it’s the player.
Bought a $200 pawn shop dot and a set of used p92 pickups for $125 sounds, plays and looks lick a dream for the price of a new dot, next will be a tusq nut and quality bridge
Like a sound of the Epiphone Dot 🎸👌🏼
I bought an Epi Sheraton ii and its a great guitar, the pickups started going weak, so I put classic 57's on it and I challenge anyone to hear the difference between it and a high priced Gibson. I paid $600, the 57's were $300, but that's still way less than the Gibson.
I've always said and feel in my heart.... You don't play guitar.....You feel the guitar. And that goes with any instrument.
I just wish that Epiphone would put a laminated flame finish on their 335’s. You can set up any decent guitar the way you want it to feel. And if you can do your own fret work the sky is the limit.
Side note: the only expensive 335 I would buy is probably a Heritage.
I like the epiphone, it was smoother sounding
Yeah, in a way, more focused sounding. I have a '65 Gibson 335, with those same inlays, and a '99 Samick-built Epiphone 335 Dot, which I bought about 10 years ago, and it was like new.
I play the Epiphone, (when I need a 335)-it stays in tune.
It also has more "drive" to it, and is a whole lot more stable.
The pickups on the Gibson are the post-PAF ones, they sound good, but the 57 Classics that came on that Epiphone Dot are better behaved.They don't pick up the noise from the beer coolers, lights, etc.
I don't use pedals, just 2 cheap 100 Watt Peavey ValveKings-one set clean, and one on the boost channel, ALL knobs on "5" and control it from the guitar, and a Whirlwind A/B switch-one is a head, the other one is a 2X12 combo, and I just split the speaker wires, one for each amp. Sounds like Al Dimeola. Or Duane Allman.
To me, the big thing is the unbound fretboard, and the frets. The binding on the 65's neck (or any bound neck) feels better, and the frets (what's left of them, I've had the Gibson since the 80's) are taller, and kind of "square".
Neither is a main guitar for me, but the guys in the band I'm currently with, picked that cheesy Epiphone out of 25+ guitars for my main stage guitar, including the '65 Gibson 335.
And a real '52 Les Paul.
And a '55 Telecaster.
I'm scratching my head, too, but the Gibson is more of an investment, and the Epiphone is more of a working/moneymaker/playing guitar.
Go figure, but I am hard pressed to see a discernable difference between the two in this video, and it's even more apparent in real life.
Buy the Epiphone, and spend the difference on a vehicle to haul it to the gig, and a decent amp. .
weirdly enough i liked the sound of the Epi better than that of the Gib.... although i would switch out the pickups either way.
Bought my 335 used for $500 back in 1986. Don't know what that would be in today's dollars. It's a first year Dot re-issue made in Kalamazoo.
Mik Epiphone Sheraton with burstbucker pro bridge 57 neck and cts puts.
Considering the price difference, the tone difference is negligible.🙂
nice playing man, got a bit of a Junior Kimbrough vibe going. Gibson definitely sounds better by a mile, but the epi with upgraded electrics and pups would be sweet and still a fraction of the price.
I´d get the Epi and replace its pickups with Gibson pickups!!
RIGHT? lol
I had the dot and never found it comfortable to play...now I’m getting a 335 cos they look cool and I wanna feel like a rockstar...choosing that over a ric 360
I closed my eyes and couldn't tell you when or if he was playing the Epi. or the Gibson. I have a Korean made Sharrton that I'd put against any Gibson
Maybe broaden the comparison by including other genres like jazz with flat wound strings. This type of guitar is still played by a lot of jazz players
what amp did you use here bro? Video is exactly what i needed
unlike the SG shoot out which was great - Thanks- the ES v Dot clean they're very close ...So SG - Gibson and ES - Dot for me ...keep up the good work, you got great tone.
I put a set of budget alnico mini humbuckers in my dot. Much better than the muddy dark stock pickups. That being said I would probably prefer the Gibson pickups if I could swing the cost.