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I could be entirely wrong about this (I'm a white British person so not exactly an expert in the subject) but the mandarin name communism joke did come of as a bit xenophobic. I understand that it was meant as a joke but saying that it's bad to name a Dinosaur in mandarin then saying that they should be named in one of two European languages, only giving mention to more local languages in a brief note at the end comes of as questionable at best, especially when you also then try to connect communism (Something I assume you think is bad) to it. Once again I understand that it was just meant as a joke (I do get what you were going for with it), I am not the right person to determine this and this comment isn't meant as a judgement, it's just that it came off as somewhat xenophobic and out of place to me. Once again I could be wrong, this is just meant as constructive criticism based on my first impression. Also I didn't know about that Carcharodontosaurus track way, that's incredibly interesting.
Not gonna lie....when you said, "And good news! I have one here today" for a split second, I thought the camera was going to pan over to a Giganotasaurus, possibly wearing glasses, patiently waiting for its turn to speak.
It cracks me up how Ethan was introduced at 0:26 and then spends 5 minutes not saying anything like Clint is discussing if hes the best pet mammal for us.
@@chloewright1I don't know, it might be hard to get that particular one, but there's millions just like him everywhere. Think the availability might still be a bit tricky though as they seem to be a protected species,. You certainly get into a lot of trouble either purchasing one or getting one from the wild.
Every time I hear Clint say "Well, Hi There!" makes me feel like an 8 year old on a field trip to the Natural History Museum. I even get the same sense of excitement and wonder that learning about the ancient world has always brought me. Absolutely LOVE it and I hope that there are actual children here watching with that same sense of excitement and wonder
But is Giganotosaurus the best pet reptile for you? We rate Giganotosaurus on our five criteria: Handleability, Care, Hardiness, Availability, Upfront Costs
I think the availability is going to be the main issue. An eccentric billionaire might hypothetically have the ability to have a safe enclosure built. But they would still struggle to find one on MorphMarket.
Handleability: 1 out of 5. It's a hyper-carnivorous temper-tantrum the size of a big truck. Care: 1 out of 5. Nothing about its care is particularly difficult, but it needs a lot of it. Hardiness: 5 out of 5. It's huge, its durable, it's enduring. Just make sure your grandkids will want it. Availability: 0 out of 5. Unless you're Nigel Marven, availability is TARDIS-dependent. Upfront Costs: Once again, nothing about its care or enclosure is particularly expensive on its own, but the sheer amount quickly adds up. Minimum enclosure size is at least 9 square miles, and it needs both warm and cold and dry and humid environments in there. The enclosure can be made out of almost any material, but you need to build it strong enough to stop a bulldozer and tall enough to stop most cranes.
Handleability: 1 (Unless it eats humans) Care: 1 (Imagine taking care of an animal that large) Hardiness:5 or 4. Availability: 0 (They are extinct) Upfront Coasts: 0-1
Acrocanthosaurus, an elephant sized superpredator leaping on to the back of a behemoth like sauroposeidon is probably my most favourite fact that I learned about carcharodontosaurids today.
It was already in the running as my favorite dinosaur. It just made it today. Also love the idea of the large hump of muscle running down its back giving it more strength and ability to lock its neck.
I am not afraid of giant carnivore chasing me--I am afraid of a mid-sized carnivore that sees me as a substantial meal, or a herbivore that's had a bad day chasing me.
The latter two would make an very unconventional horror scene. The latter could have a mineral (or vitamin) deficiency. Check out Casual Geographic’s “[…] Rule Of Nature,” for more on facultative herbivores. You will be amazed.
@ Well, we don’t know that they were actually coordinated pack hunters like wolves, is my understanding. Ngl though, they are fast and have foot knives, so one would be enough for me.
So glad to see Acrocanthosaurus get some recognition! It's such a fascinating animal and, in my opinion tops T-rex and Spinosaurus. Yes you mentioned the trackway! Edit: One theory is the arms, more than twice the size of T-rex's able to hold up to a ton each. Although it had limited movement about 45 degrees. But it's one possibility on how it could grapple sauropods.
21:33 Some information on this matter: frrom what I can tell, Owen (Sir Richard, the Victorian comparative anatomist; not Clint’s son) did translate the Greek “sauros” as “lizard” but never actually considered dinosaurs to be lizards. He described Dinosauria as an order of “saurian reptiles”; Sauria being a taxon (derived from that same term) that encompassed “lizards” (Lacertilia) and crocodilians (Crocodylia) but not snakes (Serpentes) or turtles (Testudines/Chelonia). Of course we no longer consider such a group to be monophyletic to the exclusion of snakes (for they fall within the Lacertilia, which became the Squamata), turtles (which no longer appear to be part of an anapsid outgroup to the rest of the reptiles), or indeed birds (without whom Dinosauria would be paraphyletic). Also for the record, “terrible” (in the modern sense of “generally just plain bad” as opposed to the “Ivan the Terrible” sense) is not an accurate translation of “deinos”, though that is the most popular one these days and the one Clint used in his “all groups of dinosaurs” video. Owen intended that term to mean “fearfully great”; so something more like “awe-inspiring” or, as Thomas Holtz says, not merely “scary” but “scary big”.
Yep, totally right. I have myself point both of these numerous times. In general, the word "deinos" means incredible, awesome when it comes to living things and terrible when it comes to abstract things like situations (dire situation = δεινή κατάσταση / deini katastasi). We use it frequently to describe someone who is very adept at something, like diving, shooting, fighting, etc. I think Owen even outright said that was the intended meaning.
5:47 I love that you chose a picture from a great modding community to the Ark games. I LOVE their mods and it feels so majestic seen these in the game!
@@DJFracus it’s speculated that oxalaia is a separate species of spinosaurus. it would make sense as south america and africa were once connected. nothing has yet to have been confirmed as far as i’m aware
@dibble1331 South America and Africa were already separated by the time these two animals existed. Also, we don't have much of Oxalaia (only its snout), but that alone is already distinct from Spinosaurus. The less of its skeleton we have the less likely we are to find clear differences, but we still did.
You okay there bud? That Shaochilong rant felt a little like a personal offense to you. All jokes aside, I really enjoyed this episode. Looking forward for the rest of Dino december!
There was some weird energy there, I'm guessing a joke that didn't quite land. Mandarin might be in fact be spoken where the dinosaur was found. Otherwise, another great Dino-December video.
@skwirlsan I agree, weird energy there. I mean, I also personally dislike Chinese and have similar preferences regarding scientific nomenclature... but I wouldn't say it like that on camera lol. Like, the bit itself was kinda funny but was delivered with an uncomfortable level of earnestness
@@skwirlsan It might, but considering how remote some of those digs are, the local language maybe one of the many other ethnic groups in China. But even so, you could argue* that the Chinese names are using Classical Chinese, and not Modern Chinese, so it's in keeping with the tradition of using a "dead" language. * Those in the know would see a glaring problem here :P
The real fun of seeing evidence an acrocanthosaurus attempted to jump onto a moving sauroposeidon is that the target prey, fully grown, is estimated to be at least six meters (20 feet) high at the shoulder. That's higher than a giraffe is tall. That a 4 ton plus predator can even attempt that kind of jump is proper nighmare fuel.
It didn't jump up onto the back. It latched onto the side. Hence why the guy specifically mentioned how the tracks show the sauropod weight shifting heavily to the right.
When he said they may have been social animals, and having already established that they preyed upon large saurapods, I immediately thought of that loin pride in Africa that has learned to hunt adult elephants. The thought of several dozen enormous therapods working together to bring down some of the largest creatures to ever walk on land is both awesome and terrifying.
The brains are simply not there for such behavior. Komodo dragons show up in huge mobs around carcasses. But they're not working together. These animals would fight and the smaller individuals often get maimed/killed and cannibalized. We don't have any evidence of actual social living or cooperation. But we do have evidence of theropod interspecies mauling and cannibalism.
I have ADHD so I tend to obsess about random subjects and hyperfocus on them until I get bored, then find something else to obsess about. Just started really getting into paleo and prehistoric stuff. This isn't my first Dinosaur December but I'm especially happy for it this time. Thanks Clint. You look so excited which makes me excited too.
This has nothing to do with anything, but I found a blooper clip of Mr Roger’s getting “pranked” on Instagram and I was immediately reminded of Clint. He reacted exactly how I could imagine Clint reacting to being pranked while filming. 😂
Absolutely killing it as always Clint! Always looking forward to your Dinocember vids as a paleo-enthusiast. Though I believe there's a few earlier carcharodontosaurids that you've missed - one of them being a relatively recent and popular one! Found in 2010, Concavenator was a smaller medium-sized carcharodontosaur from early Cretaceous Spain known for a tall hump/sail structure on its back. It was even thought at one point to possess quill-like knobs on its ulna (although currently a very speculative/controversial take). Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom happens to have a life-sized statue of one found in Lockwood Manner, which honestly looks pretty good aside from its more exaggerated teeth and spine. In 2020, Lusovenator was described and named as an early Late Jurassic carcharodontosaur from Portugal. The specimen we have is small, but also thought to be a juvenile specimen, meaning it could grow potentially bigger. It's also an important find, suggesting that Carcharodontosauria split off from Allosauroidea much earlier then we originally thought. Veterupristisaurus was named in 2011, being another medium-sized carcharodontosaurid from the Late Jurassic in Tanzania. It's also quite fragmentary, originally thought to be synonymous to Ceratosaurus, though it's considered to look more like Acrocanthosaurus based on the two caudral vertebrae and bits of the tail we have of it. Its name means "old shark lizard", in reference to being the oldest carcharodontosaurid we've found thus far. Sauroniops was named in 2012 and is considered as a basal carcharodontosaurid of middle-cretaceous Morocco, believed to live alongside Spinosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus itself in the Kem Kem Formation. It's also VERY fragmentary, so much so some paleontologists believed it was synonymous of Carcharodontosaurus, though the current verdict says they're separate species. It was named, unsurprisingly, after the "Eye of Sauron" from Lord of the Rings. Pretty badass/nerdy name. And lastly there's Neovenator from the Isle of Wright in England, being considered as the best known theropod dinosaurs from the Early Cretaceous of Europe. Described in 1996, it was originally considered as the only known allosauroid fossil in Europe, before scientists placed it in its own family "Neovenatoridae" as close relatives of the Megaraptorans (the long-clawed theropods). It wasn't until 2013 when it was placed as part of the Carcharodontosauridae family. This "New Hunter" would've shared its environment with herbivores such as the famous Iguanodon and armored Polacanthus, as well as coexisting with several different Spinosaurids such as Baryonyx and the recently named Riparovenator and Ceratosuchops (alongside a potentially 10 meter long currently unnamed "White Rock" spinosaurid too). It even lived alongside an early tyrannosaur known as Eotyrannus! Can't wait to see you review more dinosaur families in the future! I recommend looking at the Stegosauria lineage, as there's some fascinating specimens that are pretty rad. Or maybe the sauropods, given they also have their fair share of unique long-necked beauties.
14:07 I’m a huge mapusaurus fan, I basically yelled the answer before you said it then went ‘YEAAAHHH’ when you confirmed it was the mapu. Such a cool dino
@@42ZaphodB42 Mapu also has the most evidence for being a pack hunter. Imagine a whole pack of these swarming a Titanosaur and celebrating with a massive feast.
I'm always happy when Acrocanthosaurus gets attention; it's one of my favorite dinosaurs, and learning that it could actually jump onto its prey only makes it even more awesome!
Ok, but what I really want to know is "Is Stegosaurus the best pet dinosaur for me?"... you know, just in case I find myself in possession of a tropical island off the coast of Costa Rica at some point.
The prefix "giga-" seems to have been created after a suggestion of a German committee member of the International Electrotechnical Commission as a unit prefix in the metric system. The German pronunciation of "g" as /g/ (as in great) suggests the intended pronunciation of "giga-" is indeed /gɪga/ (or even /giga/). The confusion of the pronunciation of "g" in English stems from a quirk in Latin languages, in which there is a second pronunciation to the regular /g/ for this letter, which comes into play when it is followed by an "i" or "e" (or a vocalized "y"). For example: Fr: /g/lobe, /g/are, /g/obelin, /g/uichet - /ʒ/entil, /ʒ/irafe Es: /g/renada, /g/azpacho, /g/obernador, /g/uerrero - Arg/χ/entina, /χ/irasol It: /g/rammo, /g/ambo, /g/ondola, /g/uardia - /ʤ/elato, /ʤ/iacomo English took this over but, as English always does, didn't establish it as a common rule. And since Germanic languages do not share this feature, we now have some English "g"s followed by "i" or "e" with the common /g/ pronunciation, as well as some with the secondary pronuncation, which in English is /ʤ/. For example: /g/irl, /ʤ/ist - /g/et, /ʤ/ene. Thus, the pronunciation of the "g" heavily depends on the origin of the word (Germanic > /g/e-, /g/i-; Latin > /ʤ/e-, /ʤ/i-). In the acronym "gif", this is pretty simple as all the words are of Latin origin (graphicus, inter- + cambire, forma), and since the "g" is followed by an "i", the pronunciation is actually "jif" (yes, I hate it, too). Combine that with the fact that the related word "/ʤ/iant" comes from the French "/ʒ/éant", and thus needs the secondary pronunciation, we now have a very confusing situation about the pronunciation of "giga-". "giga-" is neither a Latin, nor Germanic word, but stems directly from the Greek "γίγαντας" (gígantas). In old Greek it would be pronounced /g/í/g/antas, but in modern Greek it's /ʝ/i/ɣ/antas, which also shows different pronunciations for the "g"s; although neither is anything like /g/ or /ʤ/, but more like a breathy "y" and a lukewarm French "r". I also couldn't figure out the rule regarding the pronunciation difference. Conclusion: ...ehhhh? I would say the pronunciation /gɪga/ can make a stronger case for itself than /ʤɪga/ but neither is truly conclusive. English doesn't have a unique "correct" way of pronouncing, or even spelling, words and different regions vary drastically. Personally, I strongly prefer the former, but then again, I'm German, so I'm heavily biased. Although, a poll in the late 90's did show 84% of British shared my preference with only 9% going with the latter. I don't know about the US, so go with whatever floats your boat. If you're feeling freaky today, you could even go with /ʤaɪ̯ga/ (like the "gi" in /dʒaɪ̯/ant).
You must also include the fact it's a non native English speaker trying to speak English. His native language is Latin based. I'm with you & the other 84% of Brits though!
It's an assumption, given the dinosaur was found in South America, wouldn't the namer most likely speak Spanish, so shouldn't it be pronounced Higanotosaurus?
My single most prized possession is a 3.1 inch Carcharodontosaurus tooth I bought from a fossil dealer a few years back which was originally found in the Kem Kem beds. It's one of the coolest fossil teeth you can own if you are not rich along with maybe a meg tooth.
Loved the awesome Acro bit, the fact that something of that size and weight was able to jump and latch on a huge prey is mind blowing. But is kind of sad that Concavenator, being a very unique carcharodontosaur that contrary to most of them is known from an almost complete specimen, wasn't mentioned.
I am confounded how people take that Jurassic Park and Jurassic world and try and compare it to real life, they brought Dino's back to life, nothing about that is realistic.... Yet
Even worse: in the first Jurassic Park the 'Velociraptor' (actually a Deinonychus) was separated from the 'child' (actually a juvenile Homo sapiens) by 100+ million years!
I brought this up to a friend of mine and they said: "It's not our universe. Maybe they did live at the same time and in the same place in this universe" Which is both stupid and frustratingly impossible to argue against.
I’d disagree! Since Chinese dinos have long in the name which means dragon that means their names are automatically cooler than the lizard/reptile of the others. Shark toothed dragon now that’s rad as hell
Acrocanthosaurus (whom I call the Queen of the Dinosaurs), is my favorite of the family, and I'm glad that it and the other carcharodontosaurids were getting some well-deserved attention, but I noticed another basal member of the family missing from this video: Concavenator. It is a small carcharodontosaurid from Spain, and it had a very strange hump on its back. You can actually see a picture of it in the diagram at 22:48.
I think a Biologist reacts to an episode of Dinosaur Train would be awesome! It was the show that got me into dinosaurs as a kid, and I'm curious how much of the dinosaur facts were actually true. It would be neat to get clints perspective!!
Disappointed that the 'expert' suggested the 7 tonne theropod jumped onto the sauropod when its footprints disappeared from the trackway. That's the least plausible explanation. What's more likely is that it stepped around some trees, went over some rocks or harder ground, or the footprints in that section were disturbed washed away, across the last 90 million years. Why do dinosaur specialists always dramatise everything? These were elephant-sized animals. Jumping is the most unlikely thing they'd do.
it's not just that they disappeared from the trackway, but also the fact that the sauropod ones show an increase in weight during that stretch. So i'd say, from my ignorance, that it's not such a wild thing to say, specially if it comes from an expert in the field
33:19 - hey, there are still Mapuche speakers. Along with a lot of other species named in Welsh, among other languages! We can have dinosaur names in any language
Scientific names are a combination of Greek and Latin because it works as an international code everyone can use to understand "science-talk" - whether it's names of diseases or species of organisms. The postmodern nonsense of naming animals like "Simbakubwa kutokaafrika" is just that, nonsense. "Oh it means large lion in SWAHILI". Great. But Swahili is not Greek or Latin! It's not traditionally used in scientific names! To start naming species after whatever local culture or language to "honor" them (that's silly for one, and I would protest loudly if some species was discovered in my country and it was named in Old Norse 🙄), means scientists would have to learn the vocabularies of an unlimited number of languages. Swahili-speakers are perfectly free to call it Simbakubwa in their everyday speech, the scientific name should rather be something like "Megaleo africanus", or [insert better translation]. Keep it with Greek and Latin, and it can keep functioning as it has for 250 years, which is international code that anyone can learn.
@@ClintsReptiles I mean, there's a very early sauropod that has the name Barapasaurus, from Hindi for “big foot.” That one was named in the early 20th century!
Fun fact: Giganotosaurus is actually bigger than Spinosaurus in weight, reaching around 8-9 tons, and spino is only around7-8 tons(obviously neither compare to T.rexes 10-12 tons, but still)
10:29 "There's one thing worse than having A giganotosaurus chasing you-" "it's several." As an ARK: Survival Evolved/Ascended player, that's probably the realest thing I've ever heard.
1:33: It's Giga-Watt. I won't weigh into the jif/gif debate, but as an aerospace engineer with an MS and 10 years in industry, I feel fairly qualified to settle your question about Giga-Watt vs Jiga-Watt. It's Giga-Watt. Without question, it's Giga-Watt. You will get weird looks and/or questions asking if you're OK if you say Jiga-Watt without it obviously being a joke / reference to Back to the Future.
Dinosaur December is my favorite time of the year, and it kicks off with a bang! Christmas came early with an overview of my absolute FAVORITE megatheropod of all time! Thank you so so much! Edit: OMG IT'S A PHYLOGENY OF ALL OF CARCHARODONTASAURIDAE, IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN I THOUGHT
@@notmyname1038 That's right but T.rex wasnt adapted to hunt sauropods like giganotosaurus wasnt adapted to hunt ceratopsians and ankylosaurs. They were adapted to different kind of preys
The thought of a 6 ton Acrocanthosaurus leaping onto a 6m tall sauropod is scary. Not only were mega Theropods huge but might have been freakishly agile. The more we learn about dinosaurs the cooler they get.
Would love to see your take on a variety of different dinosaur based video games at some point this month for Dinosaur December-- not sure how feasible it would be or if anyone else would even be into that kind of thing... but I think it would be fascinating to get your take on the realism of the dinosaur adaptations in a quick dive through all sorts of games, from maybe Turok back on the N64 to more modern dinosaur games like Path of Titans -- either way looking forward to a jam-packed Dinosaur December, all the best and happy holidays to the team out there in Utah!
33:12 That could undoubtedly be confusing. I checked and the Chinese name 鲨齿龙 (shāchǐlóng, “shark-toothed dragon”) refers to Carcharodontosaurus, and the genus actually known as Shaochilong is apparently called 侏儒鲨齿龙属 (zhūrúshāchǐlóng, essentially “dwarf Carcharodontosaurus”). This reminds me of Xunmenglong (迅猛龍, “swift and fierce dragon”) whose name coincides with a common (if inaccurate) Chinese translation of Velociraptor despite actually being a compsognathid.
Also: Clint doesn't appreciate the fun of Chinese characters. 硰 is 石(gem)+ 沙 (sand), so a treasure found in the sand i.e. a fossil🤭. He's also not appreciating that the word 龙 has a LOT ot distinctive cultural baggage which the Greek word doesn't. In Chinese folklore it is said that humans descend from dragons, so using that word is a sign of respect for the fossils. Finally, it must be pointed out that Chinese characters have the same universal scholarly recognizeability within the context of Asia that Greco-latin names have in the context of Europe. Most Asian languages at least CAN be written using Chinese characters, so people learn them in school even where they aren't used on a daily basis. That rant felt like it had political resentment behind it. Scientific naming conventions should not be influenced by such petty resentments.
Clint, if you don´t know Lindsay Nikole (from the channel of the same name), you should check her out. She´s doing a lot for science and also happens to be extremely fun and funny. Currently she´s doing a series on the History of Life on Earth. I´m sure you´ll like her.
@@jeremycraft8452 Don´t know how the Reptile Community is as a whole (I just follow some) but Clint is friend with many and, at first glance, you won´t think have a lot in common with him yet they are.
@@juliestrong1947 So glad she decided to make that her statement. Don´t know if that was something that she learned from someone at some point or if she came with it on her own but the fact is that is brilliant. Simple but extremely true.
I'm so glad that i'm not a Young Earth Creationist anymore. Thanks clint for your "Reaction to Young Earth Creationism" videos! I hope you make more. Thanks man.
20:51 totally agree here. Language is useful, but ever-changing. We know dinosaurs aren’t lizards, but we associate -saur with dinosaurs. Instead of being pedantic and trying to force change, I think it’s best to roll with it
Its interesting to see that Acrocanthosaurus was odd even by Catcharodontosaurid standards, and why that is, especially since theres decent evidence that it lived in what is now easten north america, which was not only isolated from the western portion for quite some time, but also is very lacking in the fossil record. It makes me wonder what could have happened once the separation occurred. For all we know, Acrocanthosaurus or some very close unknown relative diverged into all sorts of Theropod horrors that just never fossilized.
I'm going to defend the Chinese dinosaur naming conventions. Using Greek or Latin to name prehistoric creatures is highly Eurocentric and has roots in imperialism, as though ancient Europe should be the world's revered antiquity. And while other ancient languages have been used (Quetzalcoatlus comes to mind), all of those languages, again thanks to imperialism, are written with the Roman alphabet. And while Chinese can be written with the Roman alphabet (漢語拼音 Pin Yin is the current standard), Greek and Latin, or any language written in the Roman alphabet, or otherwise, cannot be written in Chinese. Each dinosaur has a Chinese name. Triceratops, for example is 三角龍 (San Jiao Long) meaning "three horned dragon." Quetzalcoatlus is 風神翼龍屬 (Fei Sheng Yi Long Shu) meaning "wind god winged dragon." Since Latin or Greek are unwritable in Chinese, they use Chinese. And why not use some ancient local language from near where the dinosaur is found? Because Chinese writing isn't phonetic. Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, they all use the same Chinese characters. How you read them depends on what dialect of Chinese you speak. So there's no way to write ancient Chinese names in a way that implies an ancient, or any particular pronunciation. The Characters have meanings, not sounds. So there's no good equivalents of Latin or Greek words in Chinese. Chinese today can read and understand writing from China 2000 years ago.
I could listen to y'all talk all day, every day...for the rest of my life. I love when awesome content creators have other awesome people on their channels! I can't wait until after the New Year when I can join your Patreon again. I'm so excited to listen to the extra material from this episode! 🤘 Please have him back on your channel again. Two extremely smart, geeky and good looking men talking rad facts. Yes please! My husband is getting a bit jealous now, so I'll stop there 😂🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ kidding obviously. But honestly, these are some of my favorite episodes! The excitement radiates of your face. It's really nice to see people enjoying what they do for a living! Very inspiring! I love using your channel for science class when homeschooling my 11 year old daughter. She's on the spectrum and gets so excited when you gey excited. She laughs all the time and it makes me happy. Hopefully one day we'll have enough money to come visit from Connecticut. One can wish!
Acrocanthosaurus The High Spined Lizard is my favourite dinosaur and when i noticed they were saving it for last, calling it the coolest carcharodontosaurid, i was jumping out of my seat
Even in the Jurassic Franchise it isn’t the biggest land predator, that would be the Spinosaurus from JP3/Camp Cretaceous(they were confirmed to be the same individual by Camp Cretaceous’ show director)
When Clint mentioned Meraxes, I geeked out because it reminded me of a painting I did of the dinosaur. Took two months to do and was by far one of my best.
1:27 The english language is really inconsistent when it comes to the pronounciation of "gi". In fords like gift and give, it's a hard g. But in words like giant and paleontologist, it's a soft g.
I can't wait for the Borealopelta markmitchelli specimen to be ready for public viewing in The Royal Tyrrell Museum in Canada and a video of Clint explaining this incredibly preserved fossil.
I am not a fan of selling other theropods short or as 'less interesting/cool' compared to tyrannosaurs especially for something as trivial as names. We still genuinely do not know a whole lot about either carcharodontosaurids (or spinosaurids for that matter) and a large reason to that is a lack of research being done on these unique theropod groups. Whereas tyrannosaur research is abundant and soaks up an inordinate focus that could go to other groups. While I don't think comments on their status are the main culprit, they certainly do not help the field of study for non-coelurosaur theropods.
I believe Tyrannosaur fossils are more abundant and well preserved compared to other Theropods. Also lack of interest in paleontology in other countries as compared to the US or Canada so north American dinosaurs tend to have more research
@@MrShadowSmith that’s definitely a fair part of it, but again it isn’t a reason to snub them. Also it’s not necessarily the full-case. Many famous North American theropods like Utahraptor, and until very recently, Dilophosaurus, were both very much understudied and we still have stuff to learn about them. And North America does have Carcharodontosaurids with acrocanthosaurus, who is fairly well represented with multiple skeletons.
It should be noted that the “bite and wait” strategy isn’t actually used by any predator that bleeds prey to death; they take down prey on the spot or at least in a single attack without any protracted waiting, just with blood loss and trauma than with suffocation (as with predators that rely on powerful jaws to throttle prey).
I realized that I read it’s name wrong all my life. My brain probably just skipped a letter for convenience but I always thought its just GIGANTO haha silly me
@@georgesimon1760 Because it was already taken, believe it or not. In 1893, a genus of a Sauropod from england was described and named "Gigantosaurus megalonyx". Taxonomy name rules means it can't be used when it belongs to a separate species. Also likely turns out that it wasn't a distinct genus, instead belonging to the sauropod Ornithopsis humerocristatus and the name "gigantosaurus" is kind of in limbo between several sauropods.
I always assumed "Jy-GANT-o-sore-ass" meaning something giant and...angry..for some reason...turns out it's "Jiggy-naughty-saw-us" which sounds more like a dino that leads the conga-line at the party. Thanks for the clarification, Clint!
0:20 while t rex was most likely larger, most modern estimates give giganotosaurus a sizable lead over spinosaurus. 1:30 you better start begging jod for forgiveness. 2:56 that hyper elongated reconstruction nearing 2 meters so often used for giganotosaurus skull is long outdated, with giganotosaurus almost certainly having a more traditional looking skull with a length of a little over 1.6 meters. 28:10 all of the large carcharodontosaurids, including giganotosaurus had relatively tall neural spines, and given the extensive scars on sajd neural spines, directly comparing them to a spinosaurus sail would certainly be questionable given they would have been civered in muscle and other soft tissue in life. 28:48 meraxes is from the huincul formation, and a likely contemporary of mapusaurus, where as giganotosaurus is from the candeleros formation, a few million years earlier. 41:48 no, acrocanthosaurus didnt "want to be a tyrannosaurid" and asserting it did likely comes from the fact that you, like so many others, incorrectly believe tyrannosaurids were the evolutionary pinnacle of therapods that everyrhing else was striving and failing to be. 43:39 acrocanthosaurus material is far more widely distributed thrn what is suggested here, being fairly prominent in places like wyoming, and with fragmentary remains like teeth being found all the way east in Maryland. 46:33 theres the classic cookie cutter shark comparison for large carcharodontosaurids, which begs a question of what exactly do you mean by it. If all you mean is that large carcharodontosaurids would likely rippoff large chunks of flesh during a hunt, sure thats logical, if you mean that they could subsist entirely off that without ever even attempting to kill the prey animal, as is presented in something like planet dinosaur, that is a completely nonsensical proposal. For a large carcharodontosaurid, flesh grazing without intending to kill the animal means its putting itself at the full risk of death and injury that attacking an animal several times its size would normally bring, all for the reward of a negligable amount of food. Put simply, flesh grazing large sauropods without intent to kill for large carcharodontosaurids is preposterous. Overall, this video is just weird in that it comes off as if you have some form of animosity towards the subject matter.
I don't know how you did it, but you absolutely NAILED the immensity and total carnage of this predator in the intro. I was saying "oh my god" after every fact
this is awesome but I gonna admit the Acrocanthosaurus part is my favorite analysis of the video it must have have been a terrifying scene to witness a house-sized carnivore attacking a building sized herbivore those tracks are like goldmines
I played Ark:Survival and can confirm that Giganotosaurus is by far the largest meat eater. At least as of the time I last played. It's also where I learned that Therizinosaurus is really called "Giant Murder Chicken."
The big thing about Giganotasaurus is that back in the 90s, when it was discovered, it was THOUGHT to be bigger than the T-rex. And it gained notoriety through Dinotopia books, which depicted it as being SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than a t-rex. Which sort of locked it in the cultural zeitgeist as being bigger than a rex and, bigger= better to most dino nerds even though size DOES NOT MATTER
Even in the 2010's there were ones that were slightly larger than rexes that had been found. There was a rather cool traveling exhibit that was doing museum tours which had a Giga and Rex display side by side. But a Rex is larger due to bulk while the Giga was taller/longer though not by much with things there...
I think he didn't, as scientific names are mostly pronounced following the Italian phonetics of Latin and Greek.. Ask this clown in the video to pronounce "Oryctolagus cuniculus" (European rabbit), and see if he pronounces the y like a German ü, like it was pronounced in ancient Greek in Athens. Ask him to pronounce "Vulpes vulpes" (red fox) and see if he says uulpes, like in classical Latin. I'm sure he doesn't.
Hey I know that Faye person that made Paleo Ark's Giganotosaurus! They are incredible. I cannot imagine how Giga could've sounded like as well... Such an incredible animal and a personal favorite of mine.
Ocidentals: let's call this big thing dinosaurs, because they are big and appears to be a lizard. 🤓 Chineses: let's call this thing dragon because looks like a fuking dragon 😎
What a way to kick off DD 2024- FANTASTIC video. I had never heard of the Carcharodontosaurida before, very interesting. The story told through footprints with sauropods running from predators was so cool. Can’t wait for next week!
@@johnrobert2148 Fair enough but the title says carnivore not hypercarnivore so bluewhale def qualifies here. We don´t really think of them as carnivores but they do actively hunt big swarms of their food.
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Next video: Giganotosaurus, the best pet reptile?
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Clint would you maybe do a video on the Acrocanthosaurus?
I could be entirely wrong about this (I'm a white British person so not exactly an expert in the subject) but the mandarin name communism joke did come of as a bit xenophobic. I understand that it was meant as a joke but saying that it's bad to name a Dinosaur in mandarin then saying that they should be named in one of two European languages, only giving mention to more local languages in a brief note at the end comes of as questionable at best, especially when you also then try to connect communism (Something I assume you think is bad) to it. Once again I understand that it was just meant as a joke (I do get what you were going for with it), I am not the right person to determine this and this comment isn't meant as a judgement, it's just that it came off as somewhat xenophobic and out of place to me. Once again I could be wrong, this is just meant as constructive criticism based on my first impression.
Also I didn't know about that Carcharodontosaurus track way, that's incredibly interesting.
I dont think this one is the right pet reptile for me.
lmao same… for a number of reasons
Handleability? ... 1, might lose your leg if you're not careful!
Omg this made me laugh so hard
I'd be on board, but I've heard availability isn't the best.
@@zacg_0 for availability. They're extinct in the wild, but a scientist on a tropical island could hook you up.
Not gonna lie....when you said, "And good news! I have one here today" for a split second, I thought the camera was going to pan over to a Giganotasaurus, possibly wearing glasses, patiently waiting for its turn to speak.
Miss opportunity 😂
"Alan?"
Brilliant comment! 😂
That guy is close enough
@@andyjay729AALLLAAN
It cracks me up how Ethan was introduced at 0:26 and then spends 5 minutes not saying anything like Clint is discussing if hes the best pet mammal for us.
Availability might be an issue though. As far as I'm aware, there's only one in existence 😆
Yah that was weird, like don't bring him on till he's going to talk.
@@chloewright1I don't know, it might be hard to get that particular one, but there's millions just like him everywhere.
Think the availability might still be a bit tricky though as they seem to be a protected species,. You certainly get into a lot of trouble either purchasing one or getting one from the wild.
And then Clint said lets let him tell us and then jumped into a sponsor add 😂😂😂😂.
Ethan gets a 2/5 for availability, you can find Ethans anywhere, but you cannot find this specific Ethan widely available.
Every time I hear Clint say "Well, Hi There!" makes me feel like an 8 year old on a field trip to the Natural History Museum. I even get the same sense of excitement and wonder that learning about the ancient world has always brought me. Absolutely LOVE it and I hope that there are actual children here watching with that same sense of excitement and wonder
Hi there, hello.
But is Giganotosaurus the best pet reptile for you? We rate Giganotosaurus on our five criteria: Handleability, Care, Hardiness, Availability, Upfront Costs
The one issue really is that… it will probably eat you.
I think the availability is going to be the main issue. An eccentric billionaire might hypothetically have the ability to have a safe enclosure built. But they would still struggle to find one on MorphMarket.
Handleability: 1 out of 5. It's a hyper-carnivorous temper-tantrum the size of a big truck.
Care: 1 out of 5. Nothing about its care is particularly difficult, but it needs a lot of it.
Hardiness: 5 out of 5. It's huge, its durable, it's enduring. Just make sure your grandkids will want it.
Availability: 0 out of 5. Unless you're Nigel Marven, availability is TARDIS-dependent.
Upfront Costs: Once again, nothing about its care or enclosure is particularly expensive on its own, but the sheer amount quickly adds up. Minimum enclosure size is at least 9 square miles, and it needs both warm and cold and dry and humid environments in there. The enclosure can be made out of almost any material, but you need to build it strong enough to stop a bulldozer and tall enough to stop most cranes.
Handleability: 1 (Unless it eats humans) Care: 1 (Imagine taking care of an animal that large) Hardiness:5 or 4. Availability: 0 (They are extinct) Upfront Coasts: 0-1
Handleability: 1/5
Care: 2/5
Hardiness: 4/5
Availability: N/A
Upfront Costs: spare no expense.
Acrocanthosaurus, an elephant sized superpredator leaping on to the back of a behemoth like sauroposeidon is probably my most favourite fact that I learned about carcharodontosaurids today.
Same
It was already in the running as my favorite dinosaur. It just made it today. Also love the idea of the large hump of muscle running down its back giving it more strength and ability to lock its neck.
It's one of my favorite dinosaurs because of its name. Acrocanthosaurus is very fun to say 😊
@@Rodanguyy dude I love Acro sm and this just furthered it to another level
@@LilGooberGuy i love acro too
I am not afraid of giant carnivore chasing me--I am afraid of a mid-sized carnivore that sees me as a substantial meal, or a herbivore that's had a bad day chasing me.
The latter two would make an very unconventional horror scene. The latter could have a mineral (or vitamin) deficiency. Check out Casual Geographic’s “[…] Rule Of Nature,” for more on facultative herbivores. You will be amazed.
Well said!
Yep, large ones, unless you've been screwing with them and giving a reason to target you, wouldn't view you as worth the time/effort to go after.
I'm more scared of several Deinonychi sneaking up on me.
@ Well, we don’t know that they were actually coordinated pack hunters like wolves, is my understanding. Ngl though, they are fast and have foot knives, so one would be enough for me.
So glad to see Acrocanthosaurus get some recognition! It's such a fascinating animal and, in my opinion tops T-rex and Spinosaurus. Yes you mentioned the trackway!
Edit: One theory is the arms, more than twice the size of T-rex's able to hold up to a ton each. Although it had limited movement about 45 degrees. But it's one possibility on how it could grapple sauropods.
Great talk about Carcharodontosauridae, Clint and Ethan!
12:14 My Monster Hunter brain instantly thought "now THAT would make a FANTASTIC Great Sword"
The Anjanath Greatsword kinda looks like it, doesn't it?
@ totally, that and the original bone jawblade.
Saaaaame
oh hell yeah
21:33 Some information on this matter: frrom what I can tell, Owen (Sir Richard, the Victorian comparative anatomist; not Clint’s son) did translate the Greek “sauros” as “lizard” but never actually considered dinosaurs to be lizards. He described Dinosauria as an order of “saurian reptiles”; Sauria being a taxon (derived from that same term) that encompassed “lizards” (Lacertilia) and crocodilians (Crocodylia) but not snakes (Serpentes) or turtles (Testudines/Chelonia). Of course we no longer consider such a group to be monophyletic to the exclusion of snakes (for they fall within the Lacertilia, which became the Squamata), turtles (which no longer appear to be part of an anapsid outgroup to the rest of the reptiles), or indeed birds (without whom Dinosauria would be paraphyletic). Also for the record, “terrible” (in the modern sense of “generally just plain bad” as opposed to the “Ivan the Terrible” sense) is not an accurate translation of “deinos”, though that is the most popular one these days and the one Clint used in his “all groups of dinosaurs” video. Owen intended that term to mean “fearfully great”; so something more like “awe-inspiring” or, as Thomas Holtz says, not merely “scary” but “scary big”.
Yep, totally right. I have myself point both of these numerous times. In general, the word "deinos" means incredible, awesome when it comes to living things and terrible when it comes to abstract things like situations (dire situation = δεινή κατάσταση / deini katastasi). We use it frequently to describe someone who is very adept at something, like diving, shooting, fighting, etc. I think Owen even outright said that was the intended meaning.
Hearing Clint talk about "enormous members" is fascinating.
"Fine, we'll all learn Mandarin like in Firefly." 🤣🤣 Two things I love: dinosaurs, and Clint's sense of humour.
Based on the TikTok ban and rednote migration he wasn’t wrong either
5:47 I love that you chose a picture from a great modding community to the Ark games. I LOVE their mods and it feels so majestic seen these in the game!
They are discussing it in the discord lol
Happy Dinosaur December!!!
I've been waiting for this all year.
“Spinosaurus was alive at this time; but in Africa.”
Oxalaia quilombensis: Am I a joke to you?
Who knows, it's a spinosaurid it might be the same as spinosaurus, it might swim, it might hunt on land, or it might not even exist
still up for debate
Spinosaurus was a specific species in Africa, Oxalaia quilombensis was a Spinosaurid, but it wasn't the species Spinosaurus
@@DJFracus it’s speculated that oxalaia is a separate species of spinosaurus. it would make sense as south america and africa were once connected. nothing has yet to have been confirmed as far as i’m aware
@dibble1331 South America and Africa were already separated by the time these two animals existed. Also, we don't have much of Oxalaia (only its snout), but that alone is already distinct from Spinosaurus. The less of its skeleton we have the less likely we are to find clear differences, but we still did.
I’m crying tears of joy seeing my all time favorite dinosaur getting some love! Thank you for covering Acrocanthosaurus
You okay there bud? That Shaochilong rant felt a little like a personal offense to you.
All jokes aside, I really enjoyed this episode. Looking forward for the rest of Dino december!
There was some weird energy there, I'm guessing a joke that didn't quite land. Mandarin might be in fact be spoken where the dinosaur was found. Otherwise, another great Dino-December video.
@skwirlsan I agree, weird energy there. I mean, I also personally dislike Chinese and have similar preferences regarding scientific nomenclature... but I wouldn't say it like that on camera lol. Like, the bit itself was kinda funny but was delivered with an uncomfortable level of earnestness
@@skwirlsan It might, but considering how remote some of those digs are, the local language maybe one of the many other ethnic groups in China.
But even so, you could argue* that the Chinese names are using Classical Chinese, and not Modern Chinese, so it's in keeping with the tradition of using a "dead" language.
* Those in the know would see a glaring problem here :P
Agree on this one, just a little weird
The real fun of seeing evidence an acrocanthosaurus attempted to jump onto a moving sauroposeidon is that the target prey, fully grown, is estimated to be at least six meters (20 feet) high at the shoulder. That's higher than a giraffe is tall.
That a 4 ton plus predator can even attempt that kind of jump is proper nighmare fuel.
It didn't jump up onto the back. It latched onto the side. Hence why the guy specifically mentioned how the tracks show the sauropod weight shifting heavily to the right.
my guy, I'm sorry but there is no such evidence.
@matyaskassay4346 the tracks in Texas are evidence.
@@KurNorock the tracks are evidence of dinosaurs walking there, nothing more. You can't jump to wild conclusions like that based on a few footsteps.
@@matyaskassay4346 So what's your explanation? Were they like Pernese fire lizards, able to teleport? Perhaps they could fly?
When he said they may have been social animals, and having already established that they preyed upon large saurapods, I immediately thought of that loin pride in Africa that has learned to hunt adult elephants. The thought of several dozen enormous therapods working together to bring down some of the largest creatures to ever walk on land is both awesome and terrifying.
The brains are simply not there for such behavior. Komodo dragons show up in huge mobs around carcasses. But they're not working together. These animals would fight and the smaller individuals often get maimed/killed and cannibalized. We don't have any evidence of actual social living or cooperation. But we do have evidence of theropod interspecies mauling and cannibalism.
Clints ability to broadcast his appreciation of Ethan and what he has to tell is so awesome! You made my day Sir!
I have ADHD so I tend to obsess about random subjects and hyperfocus on them until I get bored, then find something else to obsess about. Just started really getting into paleo and prehistoric stuff. This isn't my first Dinosaur December but I'm especially happy for it this time. Thanks Clint. You look so excited which makes me excited too.
Me too
Pretty sure hyper obsession thing is autism
Speaking from experience, it's a wonderful subject to hyperfocus on. Have fun learning!!
This has nothing to do with anything, but I found a blooper clip of Mr Roger’s getting “pranked” on Instagram and I was immediately reminded of Clint. He reacted exactly how I could imagine Clint reacting to being pranked while filming. 😂
What was the prank?
@ Someone on the crew switched Mr Roger’s shoes with theirs so they didn’t fit when he went to put them on.
@@morgangobin9985 Good one!
@@morgangobin9985 "Suddenly, Mr Rogers flew into a rage and shattered the cameraman's collar bone."
That Acrocanthosaurus must have been pretty ballsy to attempt to hunt a Sauroposeidon Solo.
IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR DINOSAUR DECEMBER THANK YOU CLINT❤️!!
Absolutely killing it as always Clint! Always looking forward to your Dinocember vids as a paleo-enthusiast.
Though I believe there's a few earlier carcharodontosaurids that you've missed - one of them being a relatively recent and popular one!
Found in 2010, Concavenator was a smaller medium-sized carcharodontosaur from early Cretaceous Spain known for a tall hump/sail structure on its back. It was even thought at one point to possess quill-like knobs on its ulna (although currently a very speculative/controversial take). Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom happens to have a life-sized statue of one found in Lockwood Manner, which honestly looks pretty good aside from its more exaggerated teeth and spine.
In 2020, Lusovenator was described and named as an early Late Jurassic carcharodontosaur from Portugal. The specimen we have is small, but also thought to be a juvenile specimen, meaning it could grow potentially bigger. It's also an important find, suggesting that Carcharodontosauria split off from Allosauroidea much earlier then we originally thought.
Veterupristisaurus was named in 2011, being another medium-sized carcharodontosaurid from the Late Jurassic in Tanzania. It's also quite fragmentary, originally thought to be synonymous to Ceratosaurus, though it's considered to look more like Acrocanthosaurus based on the two caudral vertebrae and bits of the tail we have of it. Its name means "old shark lizard", in reference to being the oldest carcharodontosaurid we've found thus far.
Sauroniops was named in 2012 and is considered as a basal carcharodontosaurid of middle-cretaceous Morocco, believed to live alongside Spinosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus itself in the Kem Kem Formation. It's also VERY fragmentary, so much so some paleontologists believed it was synonymous of Carcharodontosaurus, though the current verdict says they're separate species. It was named, unsurprisingly, after the "Eye of Sauron" from Lord of the Rings. Pretty badass/nerdy name.
And lastly there's Neovenator from the Isle of Wright in England, being considered as the best known theropod dinosaurs from the Early Cretaceous of Europe. Described in 1996, it was originally considered as the only known allosauroid fossil in Europe, before scientists placed it in its own family "Neovenatoridae" as close relatives of the Megaraptorans (the long-clawed theropods). It wasn't until 2013 when it was placed as part of the Carcharodontosauridae family. This "New Hunter" would've shared its environment with herbivores such as the famous Iguanodon and armored Polacanthus, as well as coexisting with several different Spinosaurids such as Baryonyx and the recently named Riparovenator and Ceratosuchops (alongside a potentially 10 meter long currently unnamed "White Rock" spinosaurid too). It even lived alongside an early tyrannosaur known as Eotyrannus!
Can't wait to see you review more dinosaur families in the future! I recommend looking at the Stegosauria lineage, as there's some fascinating specimens that are pretty rad. Or maybe the sauropods, given they also have their fair share of unique long-necked beauties.
*Isle of Wight. (Typo?)
14:07 I’m a huge mapusaurus fan, I basically yelled the answer before you said it then went ‘YEAAAHHH’ when you confirmed it was the mapu. Such a cool dino
Good dinosaur to be a huge fan of
Why Mapu and not Giga or Tyrannotitan? Theyre basically the same. I find them rather dull
@@42ZaphodB42 because its name is funny. Mapu wapu. Sounds like an enemy in mario bros
@@42ZaphodB42 Mapu also has the most evidence for being a pack hunter. Imagine a whole pack of these swarming a Titanosaur and celebrating with a massive feast.
I'm always happy when Acrocanthosaurus gets attention; it's one of my favorite dinosaurs, and learning that it could actually jump onto its prey only makes it even more awesome!
This is the perfect birthday present!!! Thanks Clint! ❤
Happy birthday!
Ok, but what I really want to know is "Is Stegosaurus the best pet dinosaur for me?"... you know, just in case I find myself in possession of a tropical island off the coast of Costa Rica at some point.
The prefix "giga-" seems to have been created after a suggestion of a German committee member of the International Electrotechnical Commission as a unit prefix in the metric system. The German pronunciation of "g" as /g/ (as in great) suggests the intended pronunciation of "giga-" is indeed /gɪga/ (or even /giga/).
The confusion of the pronunciation of "g" in English stems from a quirk in Latin languages, in which there is a second pronunciation to the regular /g/ for this letter, which comes into play when it is followed by an "i" or "e" (or a vocalized "y"). For example:
Fr: /g/lobe, /g/are, /g/obelin, /g/uichet - /ʒ/entil, /ʒ/irafe
Es: /g/renada, /g/azpacho, /g/obernador, /g/uerrero - Arg/χ/entina, /χ/irasol
It: /g/rammo, /g/ambo, /g/ondola, /g/uardia - /ʤ/elato, /ʤ/iacomo
English took this over but, as English always does, didn't establish it as a common rule. And since Germanic languages do not share this feature, we now have some English "g"s followed by "i" or "e" with the common /g/ pronunciation, as well as some with the secondary pronuncation, which in English is /ʤ/. For example: /g/irl, /ʤ/ist - /g/et, /ʤ/ene. Thus, the pronunciation of the "g" heavily depends on the origin of the word (Germanic > /g/e-, /g/i-; Latin > /ʤ/e-, /ʤ/i-). In the acronym "gif", this is pretty simple as all the words are of Latin origin (graphicus, inter- + cambire, forma), and since the "g" is followed by an "i", the pronunciation is actually "jif" (yes, I hate it, too). Combine that with the fact that the related word "/ʤ/iant" comes from the French "/ʒ/éant", and thus needs the secondary pronunciation, we now have a very confusing situation about the pronunciation of "giga-".
"giga-" is neither a Latin, nor Germanic word, but stems directly from the Greek "γίγαντας" (gígantas). In old Greek it would be pronounced /g/í/g/antas, but in modern Greek it's /ʝ/i/ɣ/antas, which also shows different pronunciations for the "g"s; although neither is anything like /g/ or /ʤ/, but more like a breathy "y" and a lukewarm French "r". I also couldn't figure out the rule regarding the pronunciation difference.
Conclusion: ...ehhhh? I would say the pronunciation /gɪga/ can make a stronger case for itself than /ʤɪga/ but neither is truly conclusive. English doesn't have a unique "correct" way of pronouncing, or even spelling, words and different regions vary drastically. Personally, I strongly prefer the former, but then again, I'm German, so I'm heavily biased. Although, a poll in the late 90's did show 84% of British shared my preference with only 9% going with the latter. I don't know about the US, so go with whatever floats your boat. If you're feeling freaky today, you could even go with /ʤaɪ̯ga/ (like the "gi" in /dʒaɪ̯/ant).
You must also include the fact it's a non native English speaker trying to speak English. His native language is Latin based. I'm with you & the other 84% of Brits though!
@@dr4gon166 Hold up. Clint isn't a native English speaker? :O
@@littlerave86 They mean the person who named the dinosaur.
It's an assumption, given the dinosaur was found in South America, wouldn't the namer most likely speak Spanish, so shouldn't it be pronounced Higanotosaurus?
@@littlerave86I think his mother tongue is lepidosaur, but it doesn't have all that many phonemes so is pretty tricky to make TH-cam videos in.
My single most prized possession is a 3.1 inch Carcharodontosaurus tooth I bought from a fossil dealer a few years back which was originally found in the Kem Kem beds. It's one of the coolest fossil teeth you can own if you are not rich along with maybe a meg tooth.
Loved the awesome Acro bit, the fact that something of that size and weight was able to jump and latch on a huge prey is mind blowing. But is kind of sad that Concavenator, being a very unique carcharodontosaur that contrary to most of them is known from an almost complete specimen, wasn't mentioned.
The video would need to be twice as long to get to them. We may get there, but not today.
I love how Jurassic World had that scene at the start where a Rex and a Giga had a face off when they were separated by 20 million years.
and thousands of km of ocean
Remember, this is a franchise where Velociraptors used to live in modern-day Montana
I am confounded how people take that Jurassic Park and Jurassic world and try and compare it to real life, they brought Dino's back to life, nothing about that is realistic.... Yet
Even worse: in the first Jurassic Park the 'Velociraptor' (actually a Deinonychus) was separated from the 'child' (actually a juvenile Homo sapiens) by 100+ million years!
I brought this up to a friend of mine and they said: "It's not our universe. Maybe they did live at the same time and in the same place in this universe"
Which is both stupid and frustratingly impossible to argue against.
I’d disagree! Since Chinese dinos have long in the name which means dragon that means their names are automatically cooler than the lizard/reptile of the others. Shark toothed dragon now that’s rad as hell
Acrocanthosaurus (whom I call the Queen of the Dinosaurs), is my favorite of the family, and I'm glad that it and the other carcharodontosaurids were getting some well-deserved attention, but I noticed another basal member of the family missing from this video: Concavenator. It is a small carcharodontosaurid from Spain, and it had a very strange hump on its back. You can actually see a picture of it in the diagram at 22:48.
This dude was one of those boys who loved T-Rex as a kid and never grew out of that. I mean that as a compliment.
considering how much Clint likes badass dinosaur names I'd love to see him talk about Dreadnoughtus
I think a Biologist reacts to an episode of Dinosaur Train would be awesome! It was the show that got me into dinosaurs as a kid, and I'm curious how much of the dinosaur facts were actually true. It would be neat to get clints perspective!!
Disappointed that the 'expert' suggested the 7 tonne theropod jumped onto the sauropod when its footprints disappeared from the trackway. That's the least plausible explanation. What's more likely is that it stepped around some trees, went over some rocks or harder ground, or the footprints in that section were disturbed washed away, across the last 90 million years. Why do dinosaur specialists always dramatise everything? These were elephant-sized animals. Jumping is the most unlikely thing they'd do.
it's not just that they disappeared from the trackway, but also the fact that the sauropod ones show an increase in weight during that stretch. So i'd say, from my ignorance, that it's not such a wild thing to say, specially if it comes from an expert in the field
For The Algorithm!
33:19 - hey, there are still Mapuche speakers. Along with a lot of other species named in Welsh, among other languages! We can have dinosaur names in any language
But we shouldn't!!!
Scientific names are a combination of Greek and Latin because it works as an international code everyone can use to understand "science-talk" - whether it's names of diseases or species of organisms. The postmodern nonsense of naming animals like "Simbakubwa kutokaafrika" is just that, nonsense.
"Oh it means large lion in SWAHILI". Great. But Swahili is not Greek or Latin! It's not traditionally used in scientific names! To start naming species after whatever local culture or language to "honor" them (that's silly for one, and I would protest loudly if some species was discovered in my country and it was named in Old Norse 🙄), means scientists would have to learn the vocabularies of an unlimited number of languages. Swahili-speakers are perfectly free to call it Simbakubwa in their everyday speech, the scientific name should rather be something like "Megaleo africanus", or [insert better translation].
Keep it with Greek and Latin, and it can keep functioning as it has for 250 years, which is international code that anyone can learn.
@@ClintsReptiles I mean, there's a very early sauropod that has the name Barapasaurus, from Hindi for “big foot.” That one was named in the early 20th century!
I vote for at least 1 Irish named dino
@@Aethuviel nah, a dinosaur name from Old Norse would be absolute fire!
I would have enjoyed hearing more from the guest thoughout the video. Thank you for all the details though. So much I didn't know.
Can we please please please get a Allosaurus video? It's all I want for Christmas.
Fun fact: Giganotosaurus is actually bigger than Spinosaurus in weight, reaching around 8-9 tons, and spino is only around7-8 tons(obviously neither compare to T.rexes 10-12 tons, but still)
Isn't mean giga was faster than t.rex if giga was slim and 8-9t but rex was 10-12t
43:39 "We've only found them in Texas, but it was likely all across the western central US" Acrocanthosaurus fossils have been found in Maryland.
10:29
"There's one thing worse than having A giganotosaurus chasing you-" "it's several."
As an ARK: Survival Evolved/Ascended player, that's probably the realest thing I've ever heard.
1:33: It's Giga-Watt. I won't weigh into the jif/gif debate, but as an aerospace engineer with an MS and 10 years in industry, I feel fairly qualified to settle your question about Giga-Watt vs Jiga-Watt. It's Giga-Watt. Without question, it's Giga-Watt. You will get weird looks and/or questions asking if you're OK if you say Jiga-Watt without it obviously being a joke / reference to Back to the Future.
Damn. When Clint said, “Good news, I have one here with me today”, I thought he was going to be interviewing an actual Giganotosaurus!
This would've been a great opportunity to discuss Concavenator. The most unique Carcharodontosaurid known from the best material.
Concavenator is my favorite dinosaur I need this
Giganotosaurus is big
And there's no sauroniops which I wanted to see cause it has a cool name meaning (the eye of sauron)
@@Rodanguyy yeah I love lord of the rings and love that a Carcharodontosaurid is named after Sauron makes me happy
I can't believe he missed out on Concavenator
Dinosaur December is my favorite time of the year, and it kicks off with a bang! Christmas came early with an overview of my absolute FAVORITE megatheropod of all time! Thank you so so much!
Edit: OMG IT'S A PHYLOGENY OF ALL OF CARCHARODONTASAURIDAE, IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN I THOUGHT
T-rex was a tank killer. Giganotosaurus was the titan slayer.
Yea, it was really more comparable to the accrocanthosaurus than the T-Rex.
Edit: got a Dino name wrong
T rex's skeleton was actually a lot thicker than giga
@@notmyname1038 That's right but T.rex wasnt adapted to hunt sauropods like giganotosaurus wasnt adapted to hunt ceratopsians and ankylosaurs. They were adapted to different kind of preys
T rex hunted Alamosaurus@@adrixitos3339
@@notmyname1038 not by much. Only skull part maybe. But gigas skull larger. And also carcharadontosaurids bones denser
The thought of a 6 ton Acrocanthosaurus leaping onto a 6m tall sauropod is scary. Not only were mega Theropods huge but might have been freakishly agile. The more we learn about dinosaurs the cooler they get.
Yea it’s insane that such a massive could jump at all, let alone with enough power to make it up onto the side of a huge sauropod
Wooo I know Ethan! Awesome to see him in this video.
That's awesome-- did you work together or something?
@sir-ryan-the-dumb we hung out at the Tucson Fossil Gem and Mineral Show. I worked at a different company than him
@@JoeyBcollects That's interesting, thanks for telling me
Would love to see your take on a variety of different dinosaur based video games at some point this month for Dinosaur December-- not sure how feasible it would be or if anyone else would even be into that kind of thing... but I think it would be fascinating to get your take on the realism of the dinosaur adaptations in a quick dive through all sorts of games, from maybe Turok back on the N64 to more modern dinosaur games like Path of Titans -- either way looking forward to a jam-packed Dinosaur December, all the best and happy holidays to the team out there in Utah!
That would be a great episode of Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong.
Truly the Giganotosaur the world has ever seen.
33:12 That could undoubtedly be confusing. I checked and the Chinese name 鲨齿龙 (shāchǐlóng, “shark-toothed dragon”) refers to Carcharodontosaurus, and the genus actually known as Shaochilong is apparently called 侏儒鲨齿龙属 (zhūrúshāchǐlóng, essentially “dwarf Carcharodontosaurus”). This reminds me of Xunmenglong (迅猛龍, “swift and fierce dragon”) whose name coincides with a common (if inaccurate) Chinese translation of Velociraptor despite actually being a compsognathid.
Also: Clint doesn't appreciate the fun of Chinese characters. 硰 is 石(gem)+ 沙 (sand), so a treasure found in the sand i.e. a fossil🤭. He's also not appreciating that the word 龙 has a LOT ot distinctive cultural baggage which the Greek word doesn't. In Chinese folklore it is said that humans descend from dragons, so using that word is a sign of respect for the fossils. Finally, it must be pointed out that Chinese characters have the same universal scholarly recognizeability within the context of Asia that Greco-latin names have in the context of Europe. Most Asian languages at least CAN be written using Chinese characters, so people learn them in school even where they aren't used on a daily basis. That rant felt like it had political resentment behind it. Scientific naming conventions should not be influenced by such petty resentments.
Clint, if you don´t know Lindsay Nikole (from the channel of the same name), you should check her out. She´s doing a lot for science and also happens to be extremely fun and funny. Currently she´s doing a series on the History of Life on Earth. I´m sure you´ll like her.
That we know of!
Prolly swears too much for Clint’s sensibilities.
@@jeremycraft8452 Don´t know how the Reptile Community is as a whole (I just follow some) but Clint is friend with many and, at first glance, you won´t think have a lot in common with him yet they are.
@@juliestrong1947 So glad she decided to make that her statement. Don´t know if that was something that she learned from someone at some point or if she came with it on her own but the fact is that is brilliant. Simple but extremely true.
@@jeremycraft8452 It was funny seeing her do a SciShow episode on Chimps and not swear at all
I'm so glad that i'm not a Young Earth Creationist anymore. Thanks clint for your "Reaction to Young Earth Creationism" videos! I hope you make more. Thanks man.
Congratulations. I look forward to you putting your enquiring mind into more science. :)
@@heyy13 Thanks!
20:51 totally agree here. Language is useful, but ever-changing. We know dinosaurs aren’t lizards, but we associate -saur with dinosaurs. Instead of being pedantic and trying to force change, I think it’s best to roll with it
though to be fair some of the ones that defy this naming convention like tyrannotitan sounds so cool
Man I love these videos!!!! I was locked in from the beginning. Fantastic content as usual 👊🏻💪🏻
We don't know how giganotosaurus is pronounced, because there is very little surviving documentation of Greek from the Late Cretaceous.
Carcharodontosaurus is such a underrated dinosaur same with giga. They always are so underrated.
Its interesting to see that Acrocanthosaurus was odd even by Catcharodontosaurid standards, and why that is, especially since theres decent evidence that it lived in what is now easten north america, which was not only isolated from the western portion for quite some time, but also is very lacking in the fossil record. It makes me wonder what could have happened once the separation occurred. For all we know, Acrocanthosaurus or some very close unknown relative diverged into all sorts of Theropod horrors that just never fossilized.
Y'all have successfully made me fall in love with Acrocanthosaurus with that last bit of information. What a cool theropod.🦕🦖
Carcharodontisaurids are probably my favorite group of therapods, it’s tuff to pick between them and the Tyrannosaurids
I'm going to defend the Chinese dinosaur naming conventions.
Using Greek or Latin to name prehistoric creatures is highly Eurocentric and has roots in imperialism, as though ancient Europe should be the world's revered antiquity. And while other ancient languages have been used (Quetzalcoatlus comes to mind), all of those languages, again thanks to imperialism, are written with the Roman alphabet. And while Chinese can be written with the Roman alphabet (漢語拼音 Pin Yin is the current standard), Greek and Latin, or any language written in the Roman alphabet, or otherwise, cannot be written in Chinese.
Each dinosaur has a Chinese name. Triceratops, for example is 三角龍 (San Jiao Long) meaning "three horned dragon." Quetzalcoatlus is 風神翼龍屬 (Fei Sheng Yi Long Shu) meaning "wind god winged dragon." Since Latin or Greek are unwritable in Chinese, they use Chinese.
And why not use some ancient local language from near where the dinosaur is found? Because Chinese writing isn't phonetic. Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, they all use the same Chinese characters. How you read them depends on what dialect of Chinese you speak. So there's no way to write ancient Chinese names in a way that implies an ancient, or any particular pronunciation. The Characters have meanings, not sounds. So there's no good equivalents of Latin or Greek words in Chinese. Chinese today can read and understand writing from China 2000 years ago.
27:32 There was a Meraxes who couldn't have swallowed a horse, because she's dead of course.
It appears your skeleton has come down with a bad case of... Giganotosaurus
Tell it to me straight, doc.. am I gonna make it?
I'm sorry... it's terminal.
28m18s...did you all get those pictures backward? The Giganotosaurus is shown with spines.
I could listen to y'all talk all day, every day...for the rest of my life. I love when awesome content creators have other awesome people on their channels! I can't wait until after the New Year when I can join your Patreon again. I'm so excited to listen to the extra material from this episode! 🤘 Please have him back on your channel again. Two extremely smart, geeky and good looking men talking rad facts. Yes please! My husband is getting a bit jealous now, so I'll stop there 😂🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ kidding obviously. But honestly, these are some of my favorite episodes! The excitement radiates of your face. It's really nice to see people enjoying what they do for a living! Very inspiring! I love using your channel for science class when homeschooling my 11 year old daughter. She's on the spectrum and gets so excited when you gey excited. She laughs all the time and it makes me happy. Hopefully one day we'll have enough money to come visit from Connecticut. One can wish!
"the biggest predator the world has ever seen"
*blue whale enters frame*
Biggest *land* predator.
@@cassou124tyrannosaurus rex
Acrocanthosaurus The High Spined Lizard is my favourite dinosaur and when i noticed they were saving it for last, calling it the coolest carcharodontosaurid, i was jumping out of my seat
Even in the Jurassic Franchise it isn’t the biggest land predator, that would be the Spinosaurus from JP3/Camp Cretaceous(they were confirmed to be the same individual by Camp Cretaceous’ show director)
Its not very consistent since the very same guy said it wasnt the same spino
When Clint mentioned Meraxes, I geeked out because it reminded me of a painting I did of the dinosaur. Took two months to do and was by far one of my best.
1:27 The english language is really inconsistent when it comes to the pronounciation of "gi". In fords like gift and give, it's a hard g. But in words like giant and paleontologist, it's a soft g.
I can't wait for the Borealopelta markmitchelli specimen to be ready for public viewing in The Royal Tyrrell Museum in Canada and a video of Clint explaining this incredibly preserved fossil.
I am not a fan of selling other theropods short or as 'less interesting/cool' compared to tyrannosaurs especially for something as trivial as names. We still genuinely do not know a whole lot about either carcharodontosaurids (or spinosaurids for that matter) and a large reason to that is a lack of research being done on these unique theropod groups. Whereas tyrannosaur research is abundant and soaks up an inordinate focus that could go to other groups. While I don't think comments on their status are the main culprit, they certainly do not help the field of study for non-coelurosaur theropods.
I believe Tyrannosaur fossils are more abundant and well preserved compared to other Theropods. Also lack of interest in paleontology in other countries as compared to the US or Canada so north American dinosaurs tend to have more research
@@MrShadowSmith that’s definitely a fair part of it, but again it isn’t a reason to snub them. Also it’s not necessarily the full-case. Many famous North American theropods like Utahraptor, and until very recently, Dilophosaurus, were both very much understudied and we still have stuff to learn about them.
And North America does have Carcharodontosaurids with acrocanthosaurus, who is fairly well represented with multiple skeletons.
It should be noted that the “bite and wait” strategy isn’t actually used by any predator that bleeds prey to death; they take down prey on the spot or at least in a single attack without any protracted waiting, just with blood loss and trauma than with suffocation (as with predators that rely on powerful jaws to throttle prey).
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Clint, throwing out a Firefly reference and then moving on like nothing just happened. That is such a gangsta move! 😎
2:04 I really expected just clint making a loud terrified animal sound
Acro just swung up on that sauropod like Legolas on a Mumak of Harad.
Clint was even more on, with this guest. Very entertaining as well as informative.
I realized that I read it’s name wrong all my life. My brain probably just skipped a letter for convenience but I always thought its just GIGANTO haha silly me
Not silly at all - I did the same thing!
Me too. Why didn't they just call it Gigantosaurus?
@@georgesimon1760 Because it was already taken, believe it or not. In 1893, a genus of a Sauropod from england was described and named "Gigantosaurus megalonyx". Taxonomy name rules means it can't be used when it belongs to a separate species. Also likely turns out that it wasn't a distinct genus, instead belonging to the sauropod Ornithopsis humerocristatus and the name "gigantosaurus" is kind of in limbo between several sauropods.
Clint, I didn’t think I could love your videos anymore, but then you go and drop Firefly in there.
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I always assumed "Jy-GANT-o-sore-ass" meaning something giant and...angry..for some reason...turns out it's "Jiggy-naughty-saw-us" which sounds more like a dino that leads the conga-line at the party. Thanks for the clarification, Clint!
Gigantosaurus is a different dinosaur entirely
Gettin' Giganoto wit' it
Giga from gigante (giant) but it doesn't sound like "gi", sounds more like "he"
Yesss! Dinosaur December!
I hope you at some point do a nice general overview of the ornithischians!
0:20 while t rex was most likely larger, most modern estimates give giganotosaurus a sizable lead over spinosaurus.
1:30 you better start begging jod for forgiveness.
2:56 that hyper elongated reconstruction nearing 2 meters so often used for giganotosaurus skull is long outdated, with giganotosaurus almost certainly having a more traditional looking skull with a length of a little over 1.6 meters.
28:10 all of the large carcharodontosaurids, including giganotosaurus had relatively tall neural spines, and given the extensive scars on sajd neural spines, directly comparing them to a spinosaurus sail would certainly be questionable given they would have been civered in muscle and other soft tissue in life.
28:48 meraxes is from the huincul formation, and a likely contemporary of mapusaurus, where as giganotosaurus is from the candeleros formation, a few million years earlier.
41:48 no, acrocanthosaurus didnt "want to be a tyrannosaurid" and asserting it did likely comes from the fact that you, like so many others, incorrectly believe tyrannosaurids were the evolutionary pinnacle of therapods that everyrhing else was striving and failing to be.
43:39 acrocanthosaurus material is far more widely distributed thrn what is suggested here, being fairly prominent in places like wyoming, and with fragmentary remains like teeth being found all the way east in Maryland.
46:33 theres the classic cookie cutter shark comparison for large carcharodontosaurids, which begs a question of what exactly do you mean by it. If all you mean is that large carcharodontosaurids would likely rippoff large chunks of flesh during a hunt, sure thats logical, if you mean that they could subsist entirely off that without ever even attempting to kill the prey animal, as is presented in something like planet dinosaur, that is a completely nonsensical proposal. For a large carcharodontosaurid, flesh grazing without intending to kill the animal means its putting itself at the full risk of death and injury that attacking an animal several times its size would normally bring, all for the reward of a negligable amount of food. Put simply, flesh grazing large sauropods without intent to kill for large carcharodontosaurids is preposterous.
Overall, this video is just weird in that it comes off as if you have some form of animosity towards the subject matter.
I don't know how you did it, but you absolutely NAILED the immensity and total carnage of this predator in the intro. I was saying "oh my god" after every fact
I must admit I wish Ethan had more chance to speak
this is awesome but I gonna admit the Acrocanthosaurus part is my favorite analysis of the video it must have have been a terrifying scene to witness a house-sized carnivore attacking a building sized herbivore those tracks are like goldmines
I played Ark:Survival and can confirm that Giganotosaurus is by far the largest meat eater. At least as of the time I last played.
It's also where I learned that Therizinosaurus is really called "Giant Murder Chicken."
The Theri is nicknamed the tickle turkey ,also.
The big thing about Giganotasaurus is that back in the 90s, when it was discovered, it was THOUGHT to be bigger than the T-rex. And it gained notoriety through Dinotopia books, which depicted it as being SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than a t-rex. Which sort of locked it in the cultural zeitgeist as being bigger than a rex and, bigger= better to most dino nerds even though size DOES NOT MATTER
Even in the 2010's there were ones that were slightly larger than rexes that had been found.
There was a rather cool traveling exhibit that was doing museum tours which had a Giga and Rex display side by side.
But a Rex is larger due to bulk while the Giga was taller/longer though not by much with things there...
@@AzraelThanatos"taller and longer" totally wrong
It's wild that the guy who named Giganotosaurus mispronounced it
I think he didn't, as scientific names are mostly pronounced following the Italian phonetics of Latin and Greek..
Ask this clown in the video to pronounce "Oryctolagus cuniculus" (European rabbit), and see if he pronounces the y like a German ü, like it was pronounced in ancient Greek in Athens.
Ask him to pronounce "Vulpes vulpes" (red fox) and see if he says uulpes, like in classical Latin. I'm sure he doesn't.
Hey I know that Faye person that made Paleo Ark's Giganotosaurus! They are incredible.
I cannot imagine how Giga could've sounded like as well... Such an incredible animal and a personal favorite of mine.
Ocidentals: let's call this big thing dinosaurs, because they are big and appears to be a lizard. 🤓
Chineses: let's call this thing dragon because looks like a fuking dragon 😎
I kinda wish we kept calling them dragons lol
What a way to kick off DD 2024- FANTASTIC video. I had never heard of the Carcharodontosaurida before, very interesting. The story told through footprints with sauropods running from predators was so cool. Can’t wait for next week!
I thought the biggest carnivore is the blue whale ? Just that he hunts very small creatures does not mean he should be disqualified.
All whales and sharks are carnivores. But it doesn't count as a hypercarnivore because they don't hunt animals at least half their size.
@@johnrobert2148 Fair enough but the title says carnivore not hypercarnivore so bluewhale def qualifies here. We don´t really think of them as carnivores but they do actively hunt big swarms of their food.
15:29 I like how Ethan's just sitting there listening to that and likely thinking, "Come on, Clint. You really gotta do me like that?"😂😂😂
But is it the right Theropod for us?