I really don’t think people remember the quests how they actually were. I loved oblivion, but after revisiting it and watching a couple 6 hour plus videos on it, I’ve got to say, quest were really not as much of a strength as I remembered. Edit; for context I still love the game don’t get me wrong, I just think the majority of quests were poor. Well, i guess it’s really the factions I have a issue with. DB and thieves we’re actually consistently passable, to great. Fighters guild is meh with ups and downs but with probably a few more downs, like the main quest and the blades. Mages guild can suck my left nut with how hard they fumbled the bag, and the arena too, but the dude who did the arena quests also did the DB so… clearly one was given more time and attention and it’s not that he couldn’t make good stuff but limitations of time allocation sadly. Oh don’t even get me started on the Gods. They butchered the imperial gods. Ah. And now I’m ranting lol. I do genuinely love the game, I just want them to get better in the next not worse. Skyrim was a masterclass in a lot of things for it’s time, however quest were not one of them, and a lot of cool stuff potential was really wasted. If they fuck up hammerfell I’ll be upset. I want cool desert shit Todd.
@@theluckycharms81592enuinely lol? Whatever one sounds the coolest to you. Star Trek is one of those where loads of different people would rank the series completely differently. Go look it up online, genuinely the rankings are wildly different for critics and fans. I’d personally suggest TNG (the next generation) or voyager. They’re a good mix of the old stuff, but not made in god damn 1966 with the camera quality of a potato and sets made of fake plastic rocks lol. It’s a old franchise after all haha.
@@genbeuden2114 Morrowind is neither hardcore nor hard. You just need to know the stats and synergies and you won't even miss a hit and you won't ever be killed unless you do something stupid or kill yourself.
@@rattlehead999 I know, I have like 150+ hours on the game but some morrowind fans try to pretend it is compared to the casual game that is Skyrim. And Magic is so overpowered to a level that make it fun to mess around with for some times but really boring on a whole playthrough
@@genbeuden2114 I like to mess with magic in Morrowind, but never actually play through with most of it. And Skyrim isn't much more casual than morrowind imo, yes the systems are simpler, but the action and mechanics are improved, still it's a 2011 game that started development in 2003, so it's not like it's even modern by 2011 standards. Still it does everything very well and has a lot of great content, while being accessible, so it's the most popular. It also removed acrobatics, which are the bane of MW and Oblivion. I can't wait for Elder Scrolls 6 and I want them to go balls out with it in every possible way. Action mechanics, systems, RPG mechanics, story, questlines, overworld level design, dungeon level design, some meaningful choices would be great too. And more gear pieces too.
These takes feel very in character. Joe, the ancient lich he is, would rise from his sarcophagus every day to play games over 2 decades old, Trump would only consider games good or bad based solely on sales numbers and reception from games journos and Obama would just sorta vibe on his own.
Great summary! As someone who has only ever seen other people play it and can't really tell them apart, I have to say that this really gives me a great introduction to the series and gives me an idea about why people gravitate to each one. Every time I'm trying to level up a skill in that game, I just find myself thinking: "Why am I wasting my time trying to level up a skill in a game when I can use that time to level up a skill in real life?" I tried grinding in real life, but it doesn't work as well. People keep jumping in and asking questions and giving you other jobs and basically disrupting your training scheme. I'm going with the hypothesis that the biggest difference between life and an RPG is that in an RPG, only you matter. Everyone else is an NPC. But in real life, everyone is the protagonist in their own little universe, and you really don't want to upset or offend anyone, because that just makes you the "bad guy". And it's kinda chaos, because nobody seems to be able to get a consensus about what's the right thing to do in any given situation, because we're all human beings and not ethical robots or something who can be programmed to do exactly the right thing in every given scenario. Most of the time, it's just a judgment call and there really isn't any perfect answer. And I've got a problem with that, because there isn't really a real, universal scoring system, so nobody really knows how anyone is doing or if you're ahead or behind or what. Tldr: I love this introduction to the series as someone who knows only the absolute basics of the game and still haven't figured out how to apply this stuff to the real world. If you think I need help, you're probably right.
The real problem is the uncertainty associated with real life. If there was a clear "do this and you will definitely be the best at this thing" in rl, everyone would do it. Look into the extra credits youtube channel if you want a quick introduction into game design.
You forgot the layer where this is a double backed reflection of the fanbase. And that the most reasonable of the three was talking for Oblivion which is the best game.
@@CrazyMetroid ah. I see. Both are still true. Traveling across cyradil just hits different than skyrim but the npcs always manage to do something goofy when you encounter them. I really love both things. My brain can make the switch on a dime betwen maximum roleplay immersivion mode and tee hee funny npc mode. I know it ruins it for others but when im lost in the immersion and suddenly an airborne npc air swims past me or something it always cracks me up. Drinking animations are my favorite. Seeing npcs mouths look like a fish gulping for air 4 inches from a bottle of skooma while making loud gross swallowing sounds is high art to me.
@@Coomamon_Memes I completely understand , I could be totally immersed while exploring Skyrim and then something buggy happens. It doesn't ruin it for me, I just have a chuckle and keep on going. The memed saying "It's not a bug, it's a feature." really nails it down.
In Oblivion you could craft your own spells which is way better than Skyrim you could paralyse yourself for like a week in real time. Now imagine the skyrim restoration glitch but now you can create spells with such a huge range and power. The next elder scrolls needs to have creating spells again.
Skyrim doesn't feel enough like an RPG compared to Oblivion, I liked how your character was more of a blank slate in Oblivion and you could ignore the amulet, plus the guild questlines and law and order system made it so fun
Morrowind was that, but league better in terms of quest design, the ammount of joinable factions and roleplay. Morrowind specifically tells you to go out and do freelance work, and establish yourself as an adventurer. During the MQ your boss regularly tells you to go away and get some expirience while he thinks what to do next. On the other hand, if you do engage with a medallion in oblivion (why wouldn’t you entertain a simple fetch quest from a dying emperor who saved your life?) there’s no brakes from now on. Everything’s going to shit, go save the Martin, battle for this, get the artifacts of that. Morrowind is much more chill.
How so? The sole thing known about Skyrim's MC (outside of the Elder Scrolls standard of being a prisoner of some kind) is they're the Dragonborn. However, that is also not known at the beginning and you can literally leave Helgen and play a massive amount of the game without ever touching the main story.
I think it's definitely good choices for which game was each president's favorite. Trump, he values success and Skyrim has sold the most, he also seems like he probably likes simple action and being a chosen one hero. Obama, he's famously in Oblivion, Oblivion Obama is a fan favorite character, and it makes sense he would like the immersive world. Joe Biden, he's old.
I agree with all three of them. As Daggerfall taught us, even multiple opposing things can be true at the same time. That being said, Daggerfall is the best Elder Scrolls game.
It legit has the deepest RPG mechanics far and away We ran a TTRPG using some homebrew rules, and when I really went digging into the systems in the games.. Daggerfall pretty much is an old school RPG right out of the gate, Skyrim's a glorified first person shooter
@@goldheartodyssey4486 there was a rumor that MW’s main quest was written in a week while the dude who wrote was high as a kite. He later disproved it, but the meme persists. Honestly, it diminishes the input of the writer when you boil it down to “it was le drugs lol”, especially if the story isn’t true
@@max7971 Michael Kirkbride studied comparative theology, that why Morrowinds religious aspects are so sophisticated. He left after that. To this day people joke that he must have been on psychedelics, just based off the in-game story, but it's really just some religious introspection. I guess going "DRUGS?!?" back in the day was somewhat funny but it's become such a non-story idk.
I dislike how they stripped 90% of past games rpg mechanics in skyrim but i do kind of appreciate one part of that: because its barebones it leaves a ton of room for modders to work their magic with various mods for race menu, skill tree, adding character classes etc etc. It'd probably require far more work for moddefs to remove whatever mid nonsense todd put in the game before modding if todd hadn't just done the bare minimum with rpg elements and those kinds of mods would probably always require a fresh install of skyrim to be rid of them instead of sometimes.
Every game the RPG mechanics get neutered and the graphics get better. If they ever make a part 6 finally it's going to look gorgeous and be as dumb as a brick
@@BlazingOwnager elderscrolls 6 redguard will probably just be a pure action game and armor or weapons would be cosmetic or just give a new attack or puzzle solving mechanics. Actually the next game might have you playing as a sword singer so thats entirely possible. They dont need actual physical weapons and just will theirs into existence. If todd went full action game he could easily railroad you into using 3-5 summon weapons with bs barebones linear skill trees to unlock bs traversal skills. Oh boy! Frost sword makes enemies cold now and wowee i unlocked the fire sword ability and now swordsinger can pass the vines in dungeons and fight trolls! It has like 3 tiers to level up with bs points gotten from breaking pots! Woo i just collected a sweet roll and my health bar is bigger! Yay thanks todd! So much rpg my headspins!
It’s not like they even needed to get rid of the RPG mechanics either. Had Todd resisted his temptation to have the 11/11/11 release date and took the time to make the game good, it could’ve easily been in their top 3 games.
@@domino_201 true. It would've been pretty cool to see what kinds rpg systems could've been added too. I could see class specific shouts or skill trees being a thing just with the systems we have already nevermind whatever creativite ideas could have been added in. I used to be a console boy because stuff like fps didn't bother me so long as it stayed 30 or above and i grew up with ps1 and n64. I could care less about graphics. I like nice graphics but wasnt worth upgrading my laptop. Skyrim mods are what got me to upgrade though. No matter what any console player says about console vs pc, the option for mods always makes a game better.
I never understood the whole Bethesda games losing RPG mechanics. Maybe they lost traditional tabletop RPG mechanics, but the ability to actually roleplay has been expanded. I didn't even bother with the story in Fallout 4 or Skyrim because for the first time in a Bethesda game, I was given the freedom to do whatever I wanted. No longer had to choose a class or be limited to major/minor skills. I can specialize if I want, but I don't have to. I can roleplay as an alchemist, doing nothing but harvesting ingredients and selling potions. I can be a mercenary and kill bandits. I can be a thief and just go around fencing everything. It's much easier to just live in these worlds and occupy a role than in Oblivion or Morrowind In Fallout 4, I just created a settlement and lived in. I explored the wasteland to find rare resources and defended my home from Super Mutants and Raiders. Fallout 4 was incredibly immersive for me and for the first time, there was something to do besides explore. I could actually roleplay and love as a scavenger
Oblivion is my favorite probably because atmosphere among other things. I use a “Spring Time in Skyrim “ MOD when I want play because the cold and snow is depressing
I tried to play Morrowind, but got stunted by technical issues. I played Oblivion for an hour, but didn't really click with it. I'm close to hitting the 1K mark for hours played in Skyrim. It's imperfections were filled by my imagination, and was enhanced by the breadth of mods you can access. I will always have fond memories of my characters, and of the story I wove from the threads Bethesda laid. Easily the best game for me, though I envy the deeper mechanics of Morrowind, and I also think Oblivion is iconic in its overall delivery.
As much as I loved the immersion of Morrowind and the accessibility of Skyrim, Oblivion deadass had the single-best storyline with their Dark Brotherhood questline, and there's only a couple others that come even close out of those three games.
Morrowind has such an awesome setting. Every new area I found I remember thinking "This is awesome!" It didn't feel like generic fantasy. It felt like you were on a truly alien world, exploring truly alien environments.
I'm siding with Trumpster since I'm a filthy millennial and refuse to play games that are TOO old. Skyrim is nostalgic, therefore re-playable. The other two games look like a55. 🤭
I've personally liked Oblivion because it's the only one of the trilogy of 3D games where you're not a set character. Morrowind you're the Nerevarine, and Skyrim you're the Dragonborn, but the Hero of Kvatch is not a divine being. They're simply someone who rose up to the challenge and assisted Martin in sealing off the planes of Oblivion.
Wait till you hear about the protagonist in Daggergall. The only thing we know about is that the player was the Emperor's trusted friend and was only sent to Daggergall to investigate the King of Daggergall's death and a missing letter. That's it.
No, you are not the Nerevarine in Morrowind. You can choose to be the Nerevarine, or not, when the moment comes. It cannot be explained in plain words. "You are not the Nerevarine. You are one who may become the Nerevarine. It is a puzzle, and a hard one. But you have found some of the pieces, and you may find more. Do you choose to be the Nerevarine?'' In other words, you can continue playing the game without being the Nerevarine, but you will never finish the game.
Oak Ridge Cemetery in Springfield, Illinois. The revenant of Abraham Lincoln claws his way out from under the dirt. A blood-curdling screech is heard throughout the entire state. It is a single haunting word, stretched long and loud. "DAGGERFALL".
Best Quests - Oblivion Best immersion- Morrowind Best Main Quest - Morrowind Most freedom (Player Agency) - Morrowind Most player friendly- Skyrim Best graphics- Skyrim Best combat - Skyrim
best quest writing and story depth/lore: oblivion best vibes, soundtrack, and landscape: skyrim best rpg mechanics, sense of accomplishment and journey: morrowind my fav will always be oblivion
Unlike the white house getting lost and forgetful is part of the fun of morrowind you actually have to use a brain cell to find your way to the toilet.
"It expanded upon the fundamentals of MOrrowind and Oblivion" Yes by completely removing elements from both of them! None of these games feel like sequels to each other. Each one removes more than it adds and simplifies it the bare minimum I dread to see what kind of terrible game ES6 is going to be
i wish there were multiple endings for quests in skyrim depending on the choices you made, problem is that skyrim has no choice and consequence which really takes away from the replay value of the game
I rock with all three for different reasons, Morrowind had the best lore, vibe and freedom, Oblivion had the most memorable quests, characters & factions, Skyrim has the best soundtrack, gameplay, world design and modding community. I started TES late at Skyrim back in 2011 (I was a sophomore in highschool 👴) All of them hold a special place and elicit that feeling of nostalgia whenever I fire them back up.
I found Daggerfall infinitely more entertaining than the others, despite the dated graphics and other issue that are a result of it being a 90s game. Especially Daggerfall Unity -- At that point it just felt like a fantasy world simulator. And that definitely does it for me. That being said, Morrowind is great in a lot of ways, and I'm kinda mad that things have continued to strip down from there.
At least when we continued to strip down from dangerfall and morowind, they increased time spent in development in other areas like guild quest, side quests, and npc schedules. Though we may have been stripped of the ability to kill essential characters in oblivion, at least the quests for most of these essential characters where memorable. Idk wtf we got out of skyrim, the dlc’s I guess but without them it’s like a half baked game.
@@ItachiUchiha-69 the killing npcs complaint was always foolish not everyone is a murder hobo and it’s just as immersion breaking being told lol you fucked reload a save as it is the only time you should ever try to kill npcs is at the end game and just hit the whole island with a fireball
I love the fact that everyone can agree that all three games are magnificent for their times and in their own ways, and that which is 'best' is a matter of what you value most in the game.
The only time you'll ever hear me say this, Biden is spitting facts. The first person I killed in ES3 was the guy that literally gives you the main quest.
Morrowind is an absolute banger. ngl it was a struggle to get into with my dysfunctional zoomer brain, stopped and started like three times. Furthest I got was balmora before loosing interest, finally turned my phone off and gave it a honest try and adored it, played it non stop. Now I'm a bit of a Lore elitest tbh the old lore was goated, much of it got watered down or completely contradictied in later games. (First game Oblivion, most played Skyrim, favorite Morrowind) I'm not sure what Skyrim dose better then Oblivion or Morrowind tbh, Morrowind's roleplaying is goat, Oblivion's combat is goat... Skyrim's balance? But I guess that could be subjective, Morrowind's hard levels are arguably better but Oblivion's leveling is broken, so I guess that's Skyrim's acheivement.
Morrowind is my favourite game of all time, played it since I was 13. Still fire it up from time to time. I loved Oblivion too and are tempted to play it sometimes, but Morrowind really feels like entering and discovering a weird alien fantasy culture, and I can become PART of it like no other game. The factions define your character, some are excluding others and I play my way up not just by quests but by skill requirements too. Second favourite game is New Vegas that does many similar things right, however you define your character in that game not by factions but by quest choice. It's a bit more limiting, but the world is more adaptive and dynamic. Both works well, just different game design choices.
I think Skyrim did soundtrack, modding and world design better, even though the devs retconned the climate of the province from the lore stated in previous games, the exploration of Skyrim is honestly as enjoyable as exploring Vvardenfell imo
It’s Morrowind hands down I have been remaking my experience with it every year since it came out. There’s always something new. Something you didn’t see. To even get the full experience you have to make three separate games to experience the very basics of the great houses. The depth is unmatched
I'd say the combat in morrowind and quest directions are my only gripes about the game, early level you could swing literally 100 times and hit about 5 and it's so easy to get lost if you aren't paying attention
Thats gonna happen if you try to use short blade as a chracter with no skill in it. Next time look at what combat skill is the highest on your character and just use a weapon of that type. You would be hitting pretty much 40% + regardless of everything else if you just did that (and didnt enter fights with 0 stamina)
Dude, I still can't believe I played and completed Morrowind and all of it's expansions during my early teen years. When I try to play it again while in my 30s, I think to myself. "How TF did sit through this and finish it!?"
Yep! If they do a proper remaster I would LOVE to play the other two Elder Scrolls but graphically speaking it will be a torture to play without that nostalgia.
Should’ve brought up the fact that they completely retconned the province of Cyrodil from being a jungle to a generic fantasy setting to cash in on the LOTR hype at the time
This is gold lol. And idk how people unironically make the braindead take that Skyrim has less character freedom just because you're the dragonborn. Just ignoring the fact that being the 'Champion of Cyrodiil' and 'Nerevarine' is essentially no different. Just don't mindlessly follow the arrow to Bleak Falls Barrow your next playthrough.
For me, skyrim did not expanded the stuff of oblivion and morrowind.. but from morrowind, stuff has been taken in each entry, but i played 3 and the 3 are wonders
Actually there are good parts in every one of these games thats sadly never comes together, its like bethesda doesent learn anything from previous elder scrolls and just starts from blank slate every time, which is a shame. Morrowind had a great immersion, you actually had to explore and find your way around vardenfell, which is did a lot of good for the game, its a shame they added quest markers and direction arrows in later games, another thing is magic, having ability to craft your own spells was so good, the spell system in skyrim is really bad, also the attributes strength, intelligence etc. was a really good system as it gave you more personalisation of your character, skyrims leveling doesent feel as impactfull as in oblivion/morrowind.
Magic in Morrowind remains the best IMHO I hate the magic regeneration added to Oblivion with a burning passion, it means spells cost a lot more and what ends up happening is you stand in the corner for a minute and wait for it to recharge to be able to kill a single enemy. In Morrowind I've had the ability to clear out dungeons with a single mana pool, albeit as an altmer + apprentice sign, but magic in Morrowind just feels powerful, really powerful.
@@atransarcticfox actually same goes for hp, I`d rather have a large hp pool that I have to take care of with rest/food rather than low hp fast regen like in some COD modern warfare quick regen, it just makes having those items usefull rather than them being junk.
@@tezwoacz precisely, magic potions in oblivion and skyrim are useless because they give you enough magicka to cast A SINGLE FUCKING SPELL, in Morrowind you could cast multiple high damage one's.
Was waiting for Bush coming out talking about Daggerfall and Jimmy Carter calling everyone plebs for never playing Arena
Damn, I did almost add that 😅… stay tuned! 👀
I have tried both and they where awful
@@Bartonman I was hoping for Clinton to come on and start going on about Battlespire and Redguard, too lol
Daggerfall Unity is amazing.
@@Geicoenforcer try daggerfall with unity mod its the best way to play
Oblivion's quests were like Star Trek episodes. You had cheesy ones, you had deep ones, but they were all good.
Great take
The murder mystery one from the dark brotherhood quest line was incredible
If I wanted to get into Star Trek, which one would should I start with?
I really don’t think people remember the quests how they actually were. I loved oblivion, but after revisiting it and watching a couple 6 hour plus videos on it, I’ve got to say, quest were really not as much of a strength as I remembered.
Edit; for context I still love the game don’t get me wrong, I just think the majority of quests were poor. Well, i guess it’s really the factions I have a issue with. DB and thieves we’re actually consistently passable, to great.
Fighters guild is meh with ups and downs but with probably a few more downs, like the main quest and the blades. Mages guild can suck my left nut with how hard they fumbled the bag, and the arena too, but the dude who did the arena quests also did the DB so… clearly one was given more time and attention and it’s not that he couldn’t make good stuff but limitations of time allocation sadly.
Oh don’t even get me started on the Gods. They butchered the imperial gods. Ah. And now I’m ranting lol. I do genuinely love the game, I just want them to get better in the next not worse.
Skyrim was a masterclass in a lot of things for it’s time, however quest were not one of them, and a lot of cool stuff potential was really wasted.
If they fuck up hammerfell I’ll be upset. I want cool desert shit Todd.
@@theluckycharms81592enuinely lol? Whatever one sounds the coolest to you.
Star Trek is one of those where loads of different people would rank the series completely differently.
Go look it up online, genuinely the rankings are wildly different for critics and fans.
I’d personally suggest TNG (the next generation) or voyager. They’re a good mix of the old stuff, but not made in god damn 1966 with the camera quality of a potato and sets made of fake plastic rocks lol. It’s a old franchise after all haha.
"Obvilion has got more bugs in it than Nancy Pelosi snatch."🤣😂😭☠️
Joe: I can vouch for that!
That was probably the funniest part lol 😆 😂
if anything it's Skyrim that's the most buggy lol
The funniest par is that skyrim also has a lot of bugs lol
Love it
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If you have never felt the god hood that comes with a mage build in Morrowind you are really missing out
Mage build are way too overpowered tho makes this "Super hardcore game for true gamers" into a real fucking easy one
Oblivion has paintbrushes and scroll magic hard-coded into the system.
@@genbeuden2114 Morrowind is neither hardcore nor hard. You just need to know the stats and synergies and you won't even miss a hit and you won't ever be killed unless you do something stupid or kill yourself.
@@rattlehead999 I know, I have like 150+ hours on the game but some morrowind fans try to pretend it is compared to the casual game that is Skyrim.
And Magic is so overpowered to a level that make it fun to mess around with for some times but really boring on a whole playthrough
@@genbeuden2114 I like to mess with magic in Morrowind, but never actually play through with most of it. And Skyrim isn't much more casual than morrowind imo, yes the systems are simpler, but the action and mechanics are improved, still it's a 2011 game that started development in 2003, so it's not like it's even modern by 2011 standards. Still it does everything very well and has a lot of great content, while being accessible, so it's the most popular. It also removed acrobatics, which are the bane of MW and Oblivion.
I can't wait for Elder Scrolls 6 and I want them to go balls out with it in every possible way. Action mechanics, systems, RPG mechanics, story, questlines, overworld level design, dungeon level design, some meaningful choices would be great too. And more gear pieces too.
These takes feel very in character. Joe, the ancient lich he is, would rise from his sarcophagus every day to play games over 2 decades old, Trump would only consider games good or bad based solely on sales numbers and reception from games journos and Obama would just sorta vibe on his own.
Great summary! As someone who has only ever seen other people play it and can't really tell them apart, I have to say that this really gives me a great introduction to the series and gives me an idea about why people gravitate to each one. Every time I'm trying to level up a skill in that game, I just find myself thinking: "Why am I wasting my time trying to level up a skill in a game when I can use that time to level up a skill in real life?"
I tried grinding in real life, but it doesn't work as well. People keep jumping in and asking questions and giving you other jobs and basically disrupting your training scheme. I'm going with the hypothesis that the biggest difference between life and an RPG is that in an RPG, only you matter. Everyone else is an NPC. But in real life, everyone is the protagonist in their own little universe, and you really don't want to upset or offend anyone, because that just makes you the "bad guy". And it's kinda chaos, because nobody seems to be able to get a consensus about what's the right thing to do in any given situation, because we're all human beings and not ethical robots or something who can be programmed to do exactly the right thing in every given scenario. Most of the time, it's just a judgment call and there really isn't any perfect answer. And I've got a problem with that, because there isn't really a real, universal scoring system, so nobody really knows how anyone is doing or if you're ahead or behind or what.
Tldr: I love this introduction to the series as someone who knows only the absolute basics of the game and still haven't figured out how to apply this stuff to the real world. If you think I need help, you're probably right.
This one made me spit my coffee 😂
The real problem is the uncertainty associated with real life. If there was a clear "do this and you will definitely be the best at this thing" in rl, everyone would do it. Look into the extra credits youtube channel if you want a quick introduction into game design.
You forgot the layer where this is a double backed reflection of the fanbase. And that the most reasonable of the three was talking for Oblivion which is the best game.
@@FumblsTheSniper Oblivion is basically what I wanted to be improved from Morrowind and what Skyrim didn't have when I replayed it.
AI conversations like these could bring the country together.
I love how Biden and Trump's characters are exactly like Kyle and Cartman, Biden even calling Trump "fatass" lol
"Nothing beats the immersion of Oblivion."
That....was beautiful.
(Referring to the line on it's own, never actually played Oblivion.)
Yep. Right up until you encounter any npc and bask in the glory of todds genius and craftsmanship.
@@Coomamon_Memes I never actually played Oblivion. I was simply referring to the line on its own. Sorry for the confusion.
@@CrazyMetroid ah. I see. Both are still true. Traveling across cyradil just hits different than skyrim but the npcs always manage to do something goofy when you encounter them. I really love both things. My brain can make the switch on a dime betwen maximum roleplay immersivion mode and tee hee funny npc mode. I know it ruins it for others but when im lost in the immersion and suddenly an airborne npc air swims past me or something it always cracks me up. Drinking animations are my favorite. Seeing npcs mouths look like a fish gulping for air 4 inches from a bottle of skooma while making loud gross swallowing sounds is high art to me.
@@Coomamon_Memes I completely understand , I could be totally immersed while exploring Skyrim and then something buggy happens. It doesn't ruin it for me, I just have a chuckle and keep on going.
The memed saying "It's not a bug, it's a feature." really nails it down.
In Oblivion you could craft your own spells which is way better than Skyrim you could paralyse yourself for like a week in real time. Now imagine the skyrim restoration glitch but now you can create spells with such a huge range and power. The next elder scrolls needs to have creating spells again.
I had dumped a hundred hours in skyrim before finding out there was more than one shout.
You are stupid.
How
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I like his little shake when he says "I can be who the fuck I wanna be"
Skyrim doesn't feel enough like an RPG compared to Oblivion, I liked how your character was more of a blank slate in Oblivion and you could ignore the amulet, plus the guild questlines and law and order system made it so fun
My only problem with oblivion is the thieves guild isn't worth it outside selling stolen goods.
@@ryannapier4372 isn't that the whole point of a Thieves guild? No magic needed
You can completly ignore the main quest in Skyrim as well..
Morrowind was that, but league better in terms of quest design, the ammount of joinable factions and roleplay. Morrowind specifically tells you to go out and do freelance work, and establish yourself as an adventurer. During the MQ your boss regularly tells you to go away and get some expirience while he thinks what to do next.
On the other hand, if you do engage with a medallion in oblivion (why wouldn’t you entertain a simple fetch quest from a dying emperor who saved your life?) there’s no brakes from now on. Everything’s going to shit, go save the Martin, battle for this, get the artifacts of that.
Morrowind is much more chill.
How so? The sole thing known about Skyrim's MC (outside of the Elder Scrolls standard of being a prisoner of some kind) is they're the Dragonborn. However, that is also not known at the beginning and you can literally leave Helgen and play a massive amount of the game without ever touching the main story.
I think it's definitely good choices for which game was each president's favorite. Trump, he values success and Skyrim has sold the most, he also seems like he probably likes simple action and being a chosen one hero. Obama, he's famously in Oblivion, Oblivion Obama is a fan favorite character, and it makes sense he would like the immersive world. Joe Biden, he's old.
I agree with all three of them. As Daggerfall taught us, even multiple opposing things can be true at the same time.
That being said, Daggerfall is the best Elder Scrolls game.
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@@alfieingrouille1528He's right
It legit has the deepest RPG mechanics far and away
We ran a TTRPG using some homebrew rules, and when I really went digging into the systems in the games.. Daggerfall pretty much is an old school RPG right out of the gate, Skyrim's a glorified first person shooter
Daggerfall aged poorly, you see a town/city and you've seen them all, same goes for NPCs, dungeons, factions, crypts and quests
@@odeiomine It's a 27 year old game. At the time it was mesmerising. I played it as a kid and it was the biggest game of all time.
The main advantage of Morrowind is the amount of drugs used in it's development. Not even joking.
Wait really? Elaborate
@@goldheartodyssey4486 there was a rumor that MW’s main quest was written in a week while the dude who wrote was high as a kite. He later disproved it, but the meme persists.
Honestly, it diminishes the input of the writer when you boil it down to “it was le drugs lol”, especially if the story isn’t true
@@max7971 M'kay?
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Michael Kirkbride studied comparative theology, that why Morrowinds religious aspects are so sophisticated.
He left after that.
To this day people joke that he must have been on psychedelics, just based off the in-game story, but it's really just some religious introspection.
I guess going "DRUGS?!?" back in the day was somewhat funny but it's become such a non-story idk.
@@nouhorni3229 his concept art is pretty insane though. mephala had sword holding nipples and a vagina fucking itself
LOL "Joe, there's no way you found your way out of Seyda Neen"
I love Oblivion and Morrowind but im currently on my yearly pilgrimage to Skyrim
I dislike how they stripped 90% of past games rpg mechanics in skyrim but i do kind of appreciate one part of that: because its barebones it leaves a ton of room for modders to work their magic with various mods for race menu, skill tree, adding character classes etc etc. It'd probably require far more work for moddefs to remove whatever mid nonsense todd put in the game before modding if todd hadn't just done the bare minimum with rpg elements and those kinds of mods would probably always require a fresh install of skyrim to be rid of them instead of sometimes.
Every game the RPG mechanics get neutered and the graphics get better. If they ever make a part 6 finally it's going to look gorgeous and be as dumb as a brick
@@BlazingOwnager elderscrolls 6 redguard will probably just be a pure action game and armor or weapons would be cosmetic or just give a new attack or puzzle solving mechanics. Actually the next game might have you playing as a sword singer so thats entirely possible. They dont need actual physical weapons and just will theirs into existence. If todd went full action game he could easily railroad you into using 3-5 summon weapons with bs barebones linear skill trees to unlock bs traversal skills.
Oh boy! Frost sword makes enemies cold now and wowee i unlocked the fire sword ability and now swordsinger can pass the vines in dungeons and fight trolls! It has like 3 tiers to level up with bs points gotten from breaking pots! Woo i just collected a sweet roll and my health bar is bigger! Yay thanks todd! So much rpg my headspins!
It’s not like they even needed to get rid of the RPG mechanics either. Had Todd resisted his temptation to have the 11/11/11 release date and took the time to make the game good, it could’ve easily been in their top 3 games.
@@domino_201 true. It would've been pretty cool to see what kinds rpg systems could've been added too. I could see class specific shouts or skill trees being a thing just with the systems we have already nevermind whatever creativite ideas could have been added in. I used to be a console boy because stuff like fps didn't bother me so long as it stayed 30 or above and i grew up with ps1 and n64. I could care less about graphics. I like nice graphics but wasnt worth upgrading my laptop. Skyrim mods are what got me to upgrade though. No matter what any console player says about console vs pc, the option for mods always makes a game better.
I never understood the whole Bethesda games losing RPG mechanics. Maybe they lost traditional tabletop RPG mechanics, but the ability to actually roleplay has been expanded.
I didn't even bother with the story in Fallout 4 or Skyrim because for the first time in a Bethesda game, I was given the freedom to do whatever I wanted. No longer had to choose a class or be limited to major/minor skills. I can specialize if I want, but I don't have to. I can roleplay as an alchemist, doing nothing but harvesting ingredients and selling potions. I can be a mercenary and kill bandits. I can be a thief and just go around fencing everything. It's much easier to just live in these worlds and occupy a role than in Oblivion or Morrowind
In Fallout 4, I just created a settlement and lived in. I explored the wasteland to find rare resources and defended my home from Super Mutants and Raiders. Fallout 4 was incredibly immersive for me and for the first time, there was something to do besides explore. I could actually roleplay and love as a scavenger
Oblivion is my favorite probably because atmosphere among other things.
I use a “Spring Time in Skyrim “ MOD when I want play because the cold and snow is depressing
I tried to play Morrowind, but got stunted by technical issues.
I played Oblivion for an hour, but didn't really click with it.
I'm close to hitting the 1K mark for hours played in Skyrim. It's imperfections were filled by my imagination, and was enhanced by the breadth of mods you can access.
I will always have fond memories of my characters, and of the story I wove from the threads Bethesda laid.
Easily the best game for me, though I envy the deeper mechanics of Morrowind, and I also think Oblivion is iconic in its overall delivery.
If you want deep mechanics you could try playing Daggerfall, specifically the fan made Unity version. It is great if you get into it.
I think this may be the most accurate of the president videos
You people that are making these videos are doing something good in these dark times, good work
As much as I loved the immersion of Morrowind and the accessibility of Skyrim, Oblivion deadass had the single-best storyline with their Dark Brotherhood questline, and there's only a couple others that come even close out of those three games.
Absolutely. I remember playing it the first time no quest line in any game touches it.
When Obama said Shivering Isles my eyes looked at the ceiling in a poetic way.
can't believe Im siding with Joe on this.
Morrowind has such an awesome setting. Every new area I found I remember thinking "This is awesome!"
It didn't feel like generic fantasy. It felt like you were on a truly alien world, exploring truly alien environments.
Same dude, Morrowind is so good.. sucks im sidin with biden on something but when the mans right, he's right.
I'm siding with Trumpster since I'm a filthy millennial and refuse to play games that are TOO old. Skyrim is nostalgic, therefore re-playable. The other two games look like a55. 🤭
Where's my Obama gang at?
Although "skyrim looks like the inside of a cats ass" got me good.
I've personally liked Oblivion because it's the only one of the trilogy of 3D games where you're not a set character. Morrowind you're the Nerevarine, and Skyrim you're the Dragonborn, but the Hero of Kvatch is not a divine being. They're simply someone who rose up to the challenge and assisted Martin in sealing off the planes of Oblivion.
Wait till you hear about the protagonist in Daggergall. The only thing we know about is that the player was the Emperor's trusted friend and was only sent to Daggergall to investigate the King of Daggergall's death and a missing letter. That's it.
No, you are not the Nerevarine in Morrowind. You can choose to be the Nerevarine, or not, when the moment comes. It cannot be explained in plain words. "You are not the Nerevarine. You are one who may become the Nerevarine. It is a puzzle, and a hard one. But you have found some of the pieces, and you may find more. Do you choose to be the Nerevarine?'' In other words, you can continue playing the game without being the Nerevarine, but you will never finish the game.
MC from oblivion is literally a daedric prince lol
@@Irovetti When? Lol
@@Irovetti Only in the DLC. And you Earn that title in the end.
Imagine sending this video back in time jist 10 years.
Right! Then lying that you are a Secret Service bodyguard who secretly recorded their conversation. That would be hilarious! 😂
"makes you feel like a god" while in Morrowind. You ARE a god.
If the presidential debates were this lit I would actually listen in 😂
Honestly, it would be amazing to hear them banter like this for real 😂😂
"Will you shut up, man?" was as close as we got irl 🤣
Being an Elder Scrolls fan and having spent many hours in all three of these games, this is gold (I'm with Obama on this one).
Oak Ridge Cemetery in Springfield, Illinois. The revenant of Abraham Lincoln claws his way out from under the dirt. A blood-curdling screech is heard throughout the entire state. It is a single haunting word, stretched long and loud.
"DAGGERFALL".
Sleepy Joe being a Morrowind fan? I feel like he would fall asleep on the way to Balmora
The strangest thing to me about these videos is hearing Trump sound so coherent, Biden sound like he has energy and Obama sound uncharismatic.
The cover of all 3 games are so awesome and nostalgic.
Best Quests - Oblivion
Best immersion- Morrowind
Best Main Quest - Morrowind
Most freedom (Player Agency) - Morrowind
Most player friendly- Skyrim
Best graphics- Skyrim
Best combat - Skyrim
best quest writing and story depth/lore: oblivion
best vibes, soundtrack, and landscape: skyrim
best rpg mechanics, sense of accomplishment and journey: morrowind
my fav will always be oblivion
"Oblivion has the most interesting guilds" -a man walking through the Arena guild.
Unlike the white house getting lost and forgetful is part of the fun of morrowind you actually have to use a brain cell to find your way to the toilet.
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Morrowinds setting is the best setting in the history of settings.
"It expanded upon the fundamentals of MOrrowind and Oblivion"
Yes by completely removing elements from both of them! None of these games feel like sequels to each other. Each one removes more than it adds and simplifies it the bare minimum
I dread to see what kind of terrible game ES6 is going to be
To quote Get Out “I would have voted Obama for a third term If I could have”. Based Barrack
0:57 i kid you not, was expecting "finally awake from your nightmare?". I guess Killer7 is a hell of a drug.
i wish there were multiple endings for quests in skyrim depending on the choices you made, problem is that skyrim has no choice and consequence which really takes away from the replay value of the game
I rock with all three for different reasons, Morrowind had the best lore, vibe and freedom, Oblivion had the most memorable quests, characters & factions, Skyrim has the best soundtrack, gameplay, world design and modding community.
I started TES late at Skyrim back in 2011 (I was a sophomore in highschool 👴)
All of them hold a special place and elicit that feeling of nostalgia whenever I fire them back up.
Love how joe rambles incomprehensibly at the end. I thought it was actually him 😂
i knew it was a matter of time before this convo happened lol was waiting for this.
I'm with Joe on this one.
lmao most unrealistic part about this is how lucid and normal trump sounds
I found Daggerfall infinitely more entertaining than the others, despite the dated graphics and other issue that are a result of it being a 90s game. Especially Daggerfall Unity -- At that point it just felt like a fantasy world simulator. And that definitely does it for me. That being said, Morrowind is great in a lot of ways, and I'm kinda mad that things have continued to strip down from there.
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At least when we continued to strip down from dangerfall and morowind, they increased time spent in development in other areas like guild quest, side quests, and npc schedules. Though we may have been stripped of the ability to kill essential characters in oblivion, at least the quests for most of these essential characters where memorable.
Idk wtf we got out of skyrim, the dlc’s I guess but without them it’s like a half baked game.
@@ItachiUchiha-69 the killing npcs complaint was always foolish not everyone is a murder hobo and it’s just as immersion breaking being told lol you fucked reload a save as it is the only time you should ever try to kill npcs is at the end game and just hit the whole island with a fireball
The fact skyrim removed some skills like my favourite acrobatics. I hate how they removed spell making that shit gave me infinite hours of fun.
making custum spells and naming them stole so much time from my life :D
@@AxelHenxThere's probably a Skyrim mod for both of these things tbh.
"in your sleepy fucking dreams Joe."
homie PLEASE don't stop making these. it's an untapped gold mine 🙏
I am waiting for Skywind. I don't know how much longer I can last.
Thank you Modders
Can't wait to see desantis said hammerfell is the best
Senile Sniffer: If you don't play Morrowind you ain't a Dark Elf.
The entire world can be summed up with memes about a video game generated through robot slavery.
Very nice.
It just works.
This was perfect, love how Joe fell apart at the end 😂
No way Trump could speak that comprehensively
ironic to make the one president who remembers nothing talk about morrowind
I love the fact that everyone can agree that all three games are magnificent for their times and in their own ways, and that which is 'best' is a matter of what you value most in the game.
Congratulations this is high quality content
Bartonman, man, great work. Good script. Golden material.
If this continues, they better be real fucking careful when they get to Daggerfall
I didn't want to at first, but I'm enjoying these.. Bravo
Shivering isles is the best DLC of all time. No cap, can't change my mind, won't happen.
Let's be real the sole unrealistic thing about these is that Trump is even remotely eloquent.
More bugs than Nanci Pelosi's snatch... I'm dying. 🤣😂🤣😂
"House Redoran can be described with one word: Aknrhdwjaredjnfka...
Ma'iq the liar in Red Mountain"
Skyrim was a good game but they oversimplified the series to a point where nothing really felt unique.
Trump is missing a lot of "Okays" and "folks" and "alright"
The only time you'll ever hear me say this, Biden is spitting facts. The first person I killed in ES3 was the guy that literally gives you the main quest.
Dude first politician to slap on a head set will get my undying support forever lol
Morrowind is an absolute banger. ngl it was a struggle to get into with my dysfunctional zoomer brain, stopped and started like three times. Furthest I got was balmora before loosing interest, finally turned my phone off and gave it a honest try and adored it, played it non stop. Now I'm a bit of a Lore elitest tbh the old lore was goated, much of it got watered down or completely contradictied in later games.
(First game Oblivion, most played Skyrim, favorite Morrowind)
I'm not sure what Skyrim dose better then Oblivion or Morrowind tbh, Morrowind's roleplaying is goat, Oblivion's combat is goat... Skyrim's balance? But I guess that could be subjective, Morrowind's hard levels are arguably better but Oblivion's leveling is broken, so I guess that's Skyrim's acheivement.
Morrowind is my favourite game of all time, played it since I was 13. Still fire it up from time to time. I loved Oblivion too and are tempted to play it sometimes, but Morrowind really feels like entering and discovering a weird alien fantasy culture, and I can become PART of it like no other game. The factions define your character, some are excluding others and I play my way up not just by quests but by skill requirements too. Second favourite game is New Vegas that does many similar things right, however you define your character in that game not by factions but by quest choice. It's a bit more limiting, but the world is more adaptive and dynamic. Both works well, just different game design choices.
Im giving morrowind another shot but I remember first time I played I spent 30 minutes trying to locate wherever tf south west of balmora is.
I think Skyrim did soundtrack, modding and world design better, even though the devs retconned the climate of the province from the lore stated in previous games, the exploration of Skyrim is honestly as enjoyable as exploring Vvardenfell imo
@@ItsAstie this made me laugh that sucked learning through lmao but once you do it feels cool
Lmao! Loved it lol although...Morrowind.
It’s Morrowind hands down I have been remaking my experience with it every year since it came out. There’s always something new. Something you didn’t see. To even get the full experience you have to make three separate games to experience the very basics of the great houses. The depth is unmatched
I feel like in Oblivion the voice actors were all actually trying to immerse you and put on the most amazing performances
I'd say the combat in morrowind and quest directions are my only gripes about the game, early level you could swing literally 100 times and hit about 5 and it's so easy to get lost if you aren't paying attention
Quest directions? The quest log tells you where to go. Do you need a marker to find your way?
Thats gonna happen if you try to use short blade as a chracter with no skill in it. Next time look at what combat skill is the highest on your character and just use a weapon of that type. You would be hitting pretty much 40% + regardless of everything else if you just did that (and didnt enter fights with 0 stamina)
I never thought I’d agree with Obama on anything. But, today I find some common ground.
When you make these in the future, try using contractions. It sounds so real until they say "it is" instead of "it's."
Dude, I still can't believe I played and completed Morrowind and all of it's expansions during my early teen years. When I try to play it again while in my 30s, I think to myself. "How TF did sit through this and finish it!?"
Love the banter
I never thought I’d agree with Joe Biden on something. Morrowind is the superior Elder Scrolls game
i would respect the presidents more if they actually played these games.
Pro Tip for anyone having trouble with Morrowind's combat, make sure you have as much stamina as possible, maximizes chance to hit.
" Oblivion has got more bugs in it than Nancy Peolosi snatch " Could not watch any further as i literally dies from laughing here
my man this is so fcking hilarious can't stop laughing myself.
Joegorath should have vouched for Shivering Isles, TES 4 Oblivion
I just want a remaster / remake of both Morrowind + Oblivion ...then all three will be viewed as one perfect whole.
Yep! If they do a proper remaster I would LOVE to play the other two Elder Scrolls but graphically speaking it will be a torture to play without that nostalgia.
Was waiting for Bush Jr, Clinton and Bush Sr to start arguing for Battlespire, Daggerfall and Arena.
It's obviously Skyrim. When you're over encumbered you can actually move, it can be found on almost any platform, it's just fucking amazing
Should’ve brought up the fact that they completely retconned the province of Cyrodil from being a jungle to a generic fantasy setting to cash in on the LOTR hype at the time
this is an amazing video thank you so much for this
I was so offended by Trump being Skyrim but then I watched it and it all makes sense now
This is gold lol. And idk how people unironically make the braindead take that Skyrim has less character freedom just because you're the dragonborn. Just ignoring the fact that being the 'Champion of Cyrodiil' and 'Nerevarine' is essentially no different.
Just don't mindlessly follow the arrow to Bleak Falls Barrow your next playthrough.
Only thing I want to note is that if you have the ability to speed up Obama’s voice you should... not a whole lot but he’s a pretty fast talker.
We need a South Park parody Obama is Stan Joe is Kyle since he's mortal enemies with Cartman who's Trump and Kenny is JFK.
For me, skyrim did not expanded the stuff of oblivion and morrowind.. but from morrowind, stuff has been taken in each entry, but i played 3 and the 3 are wonders
Thank God I have a skyrim character named Shrek too lol
Actually there are good parts in every one of these games thats sadly never comes together, its like bethesda doesent learn anything from previous elder scrolls and just starts from blank slate every time, which is a shame. Morrowind had a great immersion, you actually had to explore and find your way around vardenfell, which is did a lot of good for the game, its a shame they added quest markers and direction arrows in later games, another thing is magic, having ability to craft your own spells was so good, the spell system in skyrim is really bad, also the attributes strength, intelligence etc. was a really good system as it gave you more personalisation of your character, skyrims leveling doesent feel as impactfull as in oblivion/morrowind.
There's such a huge gap between all the games (barring Arena to Daggerfall) it's practically a new team each time.
Magic in Morrowind remains the best IMHO
I hate the magic regeneration added to Oblivion with a burning passion, it means spells cost a lot more and what ends up happening is you stand in the corner for a minute and wait for it to recharge to be able to kill a single enemy.
In Morrowind I've had the ability to clear out dungeons with a single mana pool, albeit as an altmer + apprentice sign, but magic in Morrowind just feels powerful, really powerful.
@@atransarcticfox actually same goes for hp, I`d rather have a large hp pool that I have to take care of with rest/food rather than low hp fast regen like in some COD modern warfare quick regen, it just makes having those items usefull rather than them being junk.
@@tezwoacz precisely, magic potions in oblivion and skyrim are useless because they give you enough magicka to cast A SINGLE FUCKING SPELL, in Morrowind you could cast multiple high damage one's.