Irene is either gonna give you everything or nothing there's not a lot of inbetween. HOWEVER for reasons I can't explain she will ALWAYS be that gyal So I'll mind my business and keep stanning her.
but Irene can dance and her rapping is there? but we all know that SM sucks at giving good raps. but at the same time red velvet is more of a vocal group. and I truly believe that Irene could be a good singer if she really cared about her vocals (got better training).
Yes we can never speak on mother AT ALL. Just saw a bunch of pics of her standing next to other idols, and she's eating every single one of them up. (Even her own members)
@@imnotwisdom her rap is debatable (in all honesty its horrendous...) but one thing mother mo is always gon deliver is dancing, and shes so proficient at it that it makes 0 sense to consider her a dozen
i don't think she is the worst singer in twice, people get annoyed by her tone but that doesn't really make you a terrible tone deaf singer (like shuhua), momo can sing her lines while dancing pretty decently which is something dahyun and chaeyoung can't do. She is not the best in twice but definitely not the worst.
@@spheksophobiaurinal honestly I agree, she has bad performances sure but I genuinely do think people just like to cherry pick her vocal performances cause she’s had plenty of decent ones I’ve always thought the issue with their songs is that they’re way too high bc when they sing songs more in their range the girls do well
But they’re dozens, especially vivi, she’s gorgeous but she has the WORST stage presence in the group. They could’ve gave her the most lines and she still wouldn’t have ate at all be serious here
@@indianbellydancer1 Not really. Sure, she isn't the best performer in K-Pop but she did well in their 'Not Today' cover as the center during the beginning. Gowon is a solid lead dancer.
@@haknyeons it says, that he's not recognisable in nct. I'm pretty sure that's what the og commenter meant. It says a lot because he's useless. You moron
saw a girl on tiktok yesterday saying milkteas (shotaro stans) shouldn’t speak on Lucas dancing because shotaro over-dances that bitch was dropped on her head multiple times as a child…
@@benedettaaaaa_ Totally me lmao. NCT is my ult group but I cannot for the life of me deny that Lucas and Winwin are dozens; and Winwin probably lost his Chinese dancing skills (I blame SM for this). I don't even know what Johnny's role in 127 is but hey, he is a gorgeous man.
Because she’s definitely a dozen, what do we even need to talk about, she’s not talented enough as the other loona girls but if you forget her existence when she’s performing then sure she’s keeping up I guess so put her in bakers dozen 🤷🏽♀️ Idk why y’all try to fight for her, she’s just beautiful but not a talented girl
THATS WHAT IM SAYING. couldnt tell whether this video meant the word dozen as a dozen in their group or a dozen in a general sense. but either way, chaer and yuna being called dozens should be a crime.
Xiumin from Exo a few days back said this that no matter how well you dance or perform, if you cant sing you wont look talented to people which literally turned out to be true cause momo, yuna and chaeryong are all here.
@@ritikaghosh9501i mean, he's right. You can't just gloss over the fact that k-pop is not only about performances. Most people want to listen to music, and having dance skills will not help you at all in the studio
I was so lost when I saw him there like WHY give me a REASON. I just know the one that made this list is a fucking dream akgae, because why is 127 and wayv there but not dream 😬
@@squid3432 There IS someone in Dream who doesn't get my attention... And people WILL come for my throats if I say his name🙃 (still not a dozen I'd say, others just have specific roles and they slay those)
@@marhsantana3881 I never said I don’t like her, but there’s like little to no talent with her, and she needs to learn to keep up with the group, but you do you weird ass
dont do my sister kang hyewon like that. she is TALENTED at being pretty, standing still, and staring forward. thats 3 more talents than jisoo got bfr ajaNUGU
Giselle and Jungwoo SHOULD NOT be here. They are great vocalists. Jungwoo is a good dancer and performer and Giselle's rapping is pretty decent compared to other idol rappers. She also performs well these days especially in their recent concert.
Im a hardcore NCT stan they are the oinly boy group I listen to and god the Lucas stans were something else. I remember when he joined they were saying he will replace Taeyong in rap like actually made me laugh even in WayV he isnt the best rapper but he is gonna top Taeyong. Now he is going solo? My boys only giving face wtf is his music gonna sound like... his solos stage for SuperM was something IG.
im wondering why he was welcomed to nct but jungwoo wasn't?? they literally joined at the same time... now people are calling jungwoo a dozen which doesn't make any sorta sense to me . jungwoo is more talented, has a good personality, unproblematic, prettier...
@jungwoof I think it's bcs Jungwoo replaced Winwin in 127. For a long time fans were holding onto hope that Winwin will be part of both units like Mark and Harchan with Dream and 127 but then they added Jungwoo and Winwin was forgotten. I think the current lineups are great rn and Jungwoo is one of my fave members and doesn't deserve the hate. He was also a bit more quiet and unfortunately a lot of Nctzens like loud personalities so they liked Lucas it was easy for them to bash a shy guy like Jungwoo. Idk why they call him dozen tho he serves severe cunt whenever he is on stage.
I’m waiting if anyone talk about Bangchan. How this men it’s there?? Pd: not gonna lie, i like Lucas but he weren’t the “spotlight” for talent, SM focused him only for visual, i hope that sm will focus more in develop his skills
like... he's literally one of the main composers/writers and producers for the group... not to mention a (good) rapper that can also sing and is the leader...? I'm not even a stay (I'm a army-moa-carat), and know him and han are all rounders for real.
@@katet8639 I don’t blame her. BBC is a shit company and did her dirty. But the fact remains she doesn’t do anything in loona. So technically she is a dozen. I’m also hoping she shines in loossemble 🫶🏻
@@Verowinday777 It depends, if you are a good dancer in a group full of good dancers, but those other good dancers can dance better than you or have better vocal, rap, stage presence and songwriting skills, then you are the dozen (including if your function is being the visual)
Idk about yall but I love Irene's rap. Like dumb dumb? Ice cream cake? One thing's for sure in this two songs is I'm gonna try and rap this songs with gibberish words.
But also can you like imagine red velvet w/o irene. A lot of iconic stuff with irene. Stunning the audience with her visials (especially the north kor). NAUGHTY? like seulgi is great but I can't imagine not having irene.
she has some good rap verses but if we’re going to be honest she’s not a rapper. 90% of what is called “ irene’s rap “ is irene just talking 💀 she can dance, she can look pretty, but she can’t be a real rapper
@@mesmereized 80% of kpop sub vocalists don't even try to improve after years, even some lead vocals like jimin so props to her for trying hard to do her job
@@spheksophobiaurinal gerl I was being sarcastic 😭 she ain’t improved. Y’all been saying the same thing for 7 years now lmao. If she was really putting in hard work her improvement would be very apparent. I could give someone classical voice lessons in 2 months and they’d show more of an improvement than Tzuyu has in 7 years.
yeah I kinda agree but she eats her 0.1 sec parts ngl… so I think this fairs it all out and also I love her crispy voice lmao like it’s not the best in loona but still fun listening to… so yeah…
@@yveslynthis is about dozens right? Loona would NOT be the same without gowon. She doze a lot acrually like you know those little parts she does? whenever they come on ANYONEEE can tell thats her. she can hold a note! she's not the best singer but she's not as bad as half the people on that list! And she CAN dance be fr.. again not the best but I wouldnt say mid
But right now Sehun probably sing longer than your bias cuz he improved a lot and not dozen anymore. Sehun can rap, sing, and dance. Also he is a successful model he got a lot of luxury brands deal that your fav can’t even have it hahahaha
in my opinion it’s sakura, people say she can dance and that she’s improving but let’s be real almost everybody in leserrafim can dance their ass off. her vocals suck, her rapping? no comment, and her dancing and stage presence are okay, but if you remove her lesserafim their songs and performances would NOT change.
I've been saying this like she didn't bring anything to Momoland 💀 She has like the worst stage presence in Kpop Industry, & lazy dance with mediocre vocal
i would put dahyun from twice in does well in one aspect because can she perform? well no! but behind the scenes? that girl can write AND compose which is pretty impressive for a jyp idol.
I feel bad for hiyyih because she isn’t necessarily bad or good at anything I mean people saying she only debuted because of her brother were rude but it’s kinda true like besides her having a good personality what else is she great at
@@indianbellydancer1 nahh be fr she looks better than him even when they look alike 💀but yeah i don't find neither of them THAT talented, they are just fine
What’s evil about this is that they put MINA on here (who can actually hold a note but only on a tuesday evening while the full moon is out) instead of SANA who can’t offer anything to the group except gargling her voice to go high
I never lie when i say Sana is the most overrated member of twice (along with Chaeyoung who can only sing in studio but sounds worst than Momo while singing live)
while you're on this tier ranking streak you should rank bgs because i believe gg stans are a lot more reasonable about bgs since they're not ready to fall on their knees for the men
@@nuclearclarity3778 same like my gg playlist is almost 300+ and i put it on constantly but my bg playlist is not even 100 and i touch it once in a blue moon
Gaeul is the best dancer in IVE. She reminds me of Chaeryeong actually except a bit weaker as a vocalist. The better technical dancer in her group but gets overshadowed by the 2nd best with more charisma (yujin and yeji, respectively) but watch a dance comparison for love dive and you'll see her ability. Her details and isolations and consistency are great
From my observation, kpop stans these days will gladly hating any member who only specialised with one skill set. Also obsessing with the calling everyone all-rounder, even though their skill sets are mid.
IM 2 MINUTES IN THIS VIDEO WHY IS CHAERYOUNG HERE??? WHY IS MOMO HERE???? WHY IS GISELLE HERE??? CRAZY YALL PUT MY SISTERS YUNA, CHAERYOUNG AND LIA AMONG THE DOZENZ BUT DIDNT ADD RYUJIN??/
Lia can hold a note but she’s ok at dancing so I can kinda see why she’s here (I’m still mad about it but i understand) but chaeryoung and yuna here is diabolical
okay but i need u to know that everytime i watch ur tier vids in our living room my dad tunes in and asks me to explain references of the tier names 😭 like tell me why im explaining what a khia is to a 50 year old man 😅😅
Jungwoo is not a dozen..He is 5th in vocals ..in all NCT units..Dont know about NCT Wish. He gives a lot in danicing too. And also listen to the album PERFUME . He has come a long way and SM wouldnt give him an album if he was a dozen.💚
Chae is probably far from a dozen. Y’all may not like her but she is talented. Her rapping and dancing is decent and she can actually hold a note. Her writing is pretty good too
Mina sings really well and she performs well too. I think in terms of keeping up with the group and not making things look sloppy, all of twice does well. Some groups aren’t too great as performing as one.
I honestly love dozens. I think ppl should do more things that contribute nothing to society
true like it makes me feel like i too can be successful without knowing how to do anything. representation matters🗣️🗣️
So true
if most ppl were a dozen maybe life would be better
LMFAOOOO
I'm gonna quote this
Irene is either gonna give you everything or nothing there's not a lot of inbetween. HOWEVER for reasons I can't explain she will ALWAYS be that gyal So I'll mind my business and keep stanning her.
A mother moves at her own pace😍😍
@@tsukaesa4900 Trueee
but Irene can dance and her rapping is there? but we all know that SM sucks at giving good raps. but at the same time red velvet is more of a vocal group. and I truly believe that Irene could be a good singer if she really cared about her vocals (got better training).
Yes we can never speak on mother AT ALL. Just saw a bunch of pics of her standing next to other idols, and she's eating every single one of them up. (Even her own members)
Irene is mother, she shouldnt be considered a even a potential dozen
Momo being in this is crazy her vocals might not be special but she’s an amazing dancer she’s not a dozen at all
her rap is also decent tbh
@@imnotwisdom her rap is debatable (in all honesty its horrendous...) but one thing mother mo is always gon deliver is dancing, and shes so proficient at it that it makes 0 sense to consider her a dozen
@@imnotwisdom ☠️
i don't think she is the worst singer in twice, people get annoyed by her tone but that doesn't really make you a terrible tone deaf singer (like shuhua), momo can sing her lines while dancing pretty decently which is something dahyun and chaeyoung can't do. She is not the best in twice but definitely not the worst.
@@spheksophobiaurinal honestly I agree, she has bad performances sure but I genuinely do think people just like to cherry pick her vocal performances cause she’s had plenty of decent ones I’ve always thought the issue with their songs is that they’re way too high bc when they sing songs more in their range the girls do well
the sudden change on vivi and gowon was nastyyy 😭😭
because they literally get no lines
Fr
But they’re dozens, especially vivi, she’s gorgeous but she has the WORST stage presence in the group. They could’ve gave her the most lines and she still wouldn’t have ate at all be serious here
@@indianbellydancer1 Not really. Sure, she isn't the best performer in K-Pop but she did well in their 'Not Today' cover as the center during the beginning. Gowon is a solid lead dancer.
@@indianbellydancer1idk cause she did a lil sum in the new loosemble teaser
a DOJAEJUNG MEMBER on the dozens list?!??!?! Let’s be fr.
FRRRR
Also that member is 5th in terms of vocal in 3 nct units. Good at dancing also. He's one of my bias☘️💚 .
the silence for yeri lol BUT ONE THING’S FOR SURE IS SHE’S A VOCALIST, A VISUAL, AND A PERFORMER
She’s definitely a pretty girl. The others errmrmmmmm
Yeri can sing?
@@cranburrey well YES!
@@kjm5386 she’s the queen of slaying the lower harmony that no one can even hear 😍
@@cranburrey Dear Diary is a GOOD SONG!
Not Jungwoo being on the list when he just sang his ass off in Dojaejung y'all be fr 💀
Literally he didn't sing strawberry Sunday to be here
127 likes ayy
I saw that and was like who tf did this list 💀
All chaeyoung doze is wear exotic shirts and gives us the most mid rap in human kind
you mean n4zi shirts 🤭
Clock it
so tru thank you for this
i thought u were talking ab itzys chaeryoung oh the comment i was gonna type
oh end that nazi
the fact she didn't recognize winwin says a lot
I stan NCT since 2016 and I don't even know what his voice sounds like 💀
what does it say exactly.. hes not that recognisable even in nct alone
@@haknyeons it says, that he's not recognisable in nct. I'm pretty sure that's what the og commenter meant. It says a lot because he's useless. You moron
@@haknyeons that he’s the dozenest of the dozen but turns out she didn’t recognize jungwoo too atleast jungwoo ain’t a dozen
@@melloonnsuunn4703 everytime i listen to love talk and he opens his mouth i get a jumpscare like his tone sucks
aja was eating up the dojaejung album and put jungwoo in idk u??? 😭😭😭
looking back, these lucas stans were really trying to convince us that he was useful at something its actually insane 😭 but real ones knew.
saw a girl on tiktok yesterday saying milkteas (shotaro stans) shouldn’t speak on Lucas dancing because shotaro over-dances that bitch was dropped on her head multiple times as a child…
@@benedettaaaaa_ Totally me lmao. NCT is my ult group but I cannot for the life of me deny that Lucas and Winwin are dozens; and Winwin probably lost his Chinese dancing skills (I blame SM for this). I don't even know what Johnny's role in 127 is but hey, he is a gorgeous man.
I knew something was wrong when he wasn't dancing in sync with all the members in Boss. Like you're on stage with THE Taeyong FIX YOURSELF!
I was telling everyone how lucas sucks ass and is only good for being the funny haha guy in the group. But everyone jumped me for it
Hendery should also be included in the dozen discussion bcs honestly hes useless
VIVI DROPPING FROM "YOURE MAD" TO "BAKERS DOZEN" WITHOUT EXPLANATION?????
I dont think an explanation is needed
Because she’s definitely a dozen, what do we even need to talk about, she’s not talented enough as the other loona girls but if you forget her existence when she’s performing then sure she’s keeping up I guess so put her in bakers dozen 🤷🏽♀️ Idk why y’all try to fight for her, she’s just beautiful but not a talented girl
@@indianbellydancer1well tune in for their debut and we’ll see 😹😹
@@indianbellydancer1girl, is not that bad, she slay on being cute
calling jungwoo a dozen is crazyyyy
literally like i hate associating the word cunt with men but he's soooo cunty i can't not
Let's not forget that Irene saved SM when she yelled at the stylist. We wouldn't have Aespe without her
Thanks god! Aespa debuted
y'all need to let go of the word dozen.... like how are chaeryeong and yuna in here like they only lack in vocals lol
THATS WHAT IM SAYING. couldnt tell whether this video meant the word dozen as a dozen in their group or a dozen in a general sense. but either way, chaer and yuna being called dozens should be a crime.
Xiumin from Exo a few days back said this that no matter how well you dance or perform, if you cant sing you wont look talented to people which literally turned out to be true cause momo, yuna and chaeryong are all here.
@@ritikaghosh9501i mean, he's right. You can't just gloss over the fact that k-pop is not only about performances. Most people want to listen to music, and having dance skills will not help you at all in the studio
HOW is jungwoo here??????? the boy can sing LIKE??
Crazy really cuz out of all NCT members he shouldn't be in this list
Fr, this boy can dance, sing and have a STRONG stage presence. Now I have doubts if she really saw anything from NCT.
It's pretty clear that aja doesn't know NCT... Our boi Jungwoo is an important part of the vocal line
all of nct should be here if we being honest
@@R0lI No...
Jungwoo is nawt a dozen who keeps pushing this narrative that he can't do anything omg... out of all NCT's 1000 members someone really put him here
Jungwoo is FAR from being a dozen; people get MAD when realists say Jungwoo is vocally better than Haechan
I was so lost when I saw him there like WHY give me a REASON. I just know the one that made this list is a fucking dream akgae, because why is 127 and wayv there but not dream 😬
@@squid3432 There IS someone in Dream who doesn't get my attention... And people WILL come for my throats if I say his name🙃 (still not a dozen I'd say, others just have specific roles and they slay those)
Tf do they think he's in dojaejung for then, stand there and look pretty?? This man is a vocalist!!
@@ashmitamandal8285Is it Renjun? Because...
KJJJJ SOWON 😭😭😭 tbf she slayed at doing nothing and letting Yuju sing everything and staying at the back while Yerin and Yuju gave stage presence
but she's pretty tho❤
Legs for DAYSSSS
frrrr she gave nothing at all
she's still my mother tho
She took her shirt off in Mago
@@VinnieMF she did a high kick and looked cunty, that's more than what other dozens can say
"that's BONG-CHON" one thing about you... you will butcher the hell out of someone's name
you're so mad!!
the silence for yeri😭
she is really pretty tho
people’s dislike towards giselle really be blinding them from her talents…
Talents probably don’t matter when there’s valid reasons to dislike her😝
IKR?!! People don't even want to consider the fact that she's too strong to be a sub-vocalist, that being the main rapper of the group.
Skrt Skrt on
@@Wrinkled_stars the video is about dozens, people with no talent
not a ranking about who you don’t like, if you don’t like her you do you
@@marhsantana3881 I never said I don’t like her, but there’s like little to no talent with her, and she needs to learn to keep up with the group, but you do you weird ass
dont do my sister kang hyewon like that. she is TALENTED at being pretty, standing still, and staring forward. thats 3 more talents than jisoo got bfr ajaNUGU
Frr tho
😭
literally
😭😭😭
Jisoo is also pretty u gonna have to check that off ☠️
Giselle and Jungwoo SHOULD NOT be here. They are great vocalists. Jungwoo is a good dancer and performer and Giselle's rapping is pretty decent compared to other idol rappers. She also performs well these days especially in their recent concert.
girl u gotta redo this with actual dozens.....
Im a hardcore NCT stan they are the oinly boy group I listen to and god the Lucas stans were something else. I remember when he joined they were saying he will replace Taeyong in rap like actually made me laugh even in WayV he isnt the best rapper but he is gonna top Taeyong. Now he is going solo? My boys only giving face wtf is his music gonna sound like... his solos stage for SuperM was something IG.
Oh hell naw they're comparing him to TAEYONG???? 💀
A dozen of the dozens but still sadly has fans
same, I’m wondering if SM is gonna give him extra training before debuting him solo……
im wondering why he was welcomed to nct but jungwoo wasn't?? they literally joined at the same time... now people are calling jungwoo a dozen which doesn't make any sorta sense to me . jungwoo is more talented, has a good personality, unproblematic, prettier...
@jungwoof I think it's bcs Jungwoo replaced Winwin in 127. For a long time fans were holding onto hope that Winwin will be part of both units like Mark and Harchan with Dream and 127 but then they added Jungwoo and Winwin was forgotten.
I think the current lineups are great rn and Jungwoo is one of my fave members and doesn't deserve the hate. He was also a bit more quiet and unfortunately a lot of Nctzens like loud personalities so they liked Lucas it was easy for them to bash a shy guy like Jungwoo.
Idk why they call him dozen tho he serves severe cunt whenever he is on stage.
VIVI WILL ALWAYS BE THAT GIRL
What does vivi do besides being a meme
@@mesmereized sing,dance,being pretty,sing
@@isenpeii1328 she’s definitely a pretty girl!
@@mesmereizedI don’t like your tone.
@@whyhihigh oh sorry
SHES DEFINITELY A PRETTY GIRL!!!!!!!
i never understood why people went after chaeryoung i love her performances and her parts in songs
3/5 members of itzy being here is insane loooool (where's ryujin tho? let's shoot for 80%!)
Ryujin can dance and she can kinda rap like
@@franksoceanshe raps?
Chaeryoung shouldn’t be there 😭
@@franksoceanshe doesnt rap she talks
the original list must have been made by a predebut yeji stan because there is NO WAY chaeryeong should be on this list lmao
Yall just be putting anyone in these tiers im crying 😭
vivi and gowon being at the top then suddenly popping down there like i suddenly couldn't see them was searching for them...
tf is jungwoo doing here MY MAN CAN SING!!
I don't even know Jungwoo like that but for SM to put him next to Doyoung and Jaehyun and for him to DELIVER severely. Y'all wrong for that uh uh
I’m waiting if anyone talk about Bangchan. How this men it’s there?? Pd: not gonna lie, i like Lucas but he weren’t the “spotlight” for talent, SM focused him only for visual, i hope that sm will focus more in develop his skills
bangchan ain't no dozen 😭 whoever made the tier list must be blind
@@lovelyjiniret fr 💀
like... he's literally one of the main composers/writers and producers for the group... not to mention a (good) rapper that can also sing and is the leader...? I'm not even a stay (I'm a army-moa-carat), and know him and han are all rounders for real.
Chaeryeong and Yuna are always gonna be my girls
momo is a dozen at singing but she's literally the best 3rd gen female dancer
Then she's NOT a dozen. A dozen is one that dozen sing dozen dance dozen rap dozen perform well
exactly, she has the worst voice I've ever heard in my life? yes. but the girl CAN dance
Giselle can easily be the MAIN OR LEAD VOCALIST IN NEWJEANS, ITZY, IVE AND LS
FR
girl no she can’t😭 new jeans and itzy, maybe? but Ive and ls 😭🤚🏽did you forget about liz and yunjin?
@@lailiecarrillo MAIN or LEAD BFR CAN'T U READ HAHA
@@lailiecarrillo She is better than both of them. Aespa and Nmixx are the best vocalists in their generation. No other groups can beat them vocally
@@lailiecarrillobe serious
Ryujin does have gay face... I can't believe I've never realized before
vivi didn’t release song of the century just to be on this list…
Okay but what is she doing in loona….
Nothing
@@mesmereized can you blame her? she will not be a dozen after loossemble debut, that's for sure
@@katet8639 I don’t blame her. BBC is a shit company and did her dirty. But the fact remains she doesn’t do anything in loona. So technically she is a dozen.
I’m also hoping she shines in loossemble 🫶🏻
I hope so too, Vivi deserves it@@mesmereized
@@katet8639and yet she’s still a dozen
jungwoo being here is so crazy to me like wdym he can sing he can dance he can do everything
NOW WHY IS JUNGWOO HERE
We're just gonna ignore the fact that Sakura wasn't in this list?
right where is she
She can dance but she stills a dozen for me
That's my daughter (she's older than me) but yeah where is she?!
@@saiki.k__8144 doesn’t “dozen” basically mean does nothing,so how is she a dozen when she can dance in your opinion 💀?
@@Verowinday777 It depends, if you are a good dancer in a group full of good dancers, but those other good dancers can dance better than you or have better vocal, rap, stage presence and songwriting skills, then you are the dozen (including if your function is being the visual)
yea so jungwoo should nawt be here my man’s can sing and when he gets on stage he PERFORMS
Idk about yall but I love Irene's rap. Like dumb dumb? Ice cream cake? One thing's for sure in this two songs is I'm gonna try and rap this songs with gibberish words.
But also can you like imagine red velvet w/o irene. A lot of iconic stuff with irene. Stunning the audience with her visials (especially the north kor). NAUGHTY? like seulgi is great but I can't imagine not having irene.
i do too
Not to mention she adds a lot of rv's vocal harmonies and in aseul sub-unit we got to see her dancing skills in a whole new light.
she has some good rap verses but if we’re going to be honest she’s not a rapper. 90% of what is called “ irene’s rap “ is irene just talking 💀 she can dance, she can look pretty, but she can’t be a real rapper
the real dozen is shuhua...but u gworls aint ready for that
Wdym ain't ready. Shuhua got trashed from day 1, people think she's tone deaf.
My brother in Christ we have literally never been more ready for anything in our lives
@@VinnieMFwell she kinda is have you heard her recording behind?
@@VinnieMF yeah but now ppl act like since she’s “improved” her sp and voice, suddenly she’s no longer a dozen
She improved from -100 to a 40 and people are going crazy over the bare minimum.
"doze well in one aspect" 💀lmao
jungwoo being a dozen when he always serves vocals and hit songs (dojaejung sub group)
In which universe can jisoo hold a note
in which universe does poona not flop
@@chishiy4 ntm??
@@chishiy4you literally have an yves avi is the call coming from inside the house?
@@ok-ys6yk clock it chile cuz huh
@@chishiy4 in which universe did blackpink make a good song?
Tzuyu ate talk that talk idc
That’s my queen of mediocre vocal improvement!!!!
@@mesmereizedQueen of being close to support for 4 years🤩
@@mesmereized 80% of kpop sub vocalists don't even try to improve after years, even some lead vocals like jimin so props to her for trying hard to do her job
@@spheksophobiaurinal gerl I was being sarcastic 😭 she ain’t improved. Y’all been saying the same thing for 7 years now lmao. If she was really putting in hard work her improvement would be very apparent. I could give someone classical voice lessons in 2 months and they’d show more of an improvement than Tzuyu has in 7 years.
the jump cut of viwon going down 4 whole tiers is TAKING ME OUT 😭😭😭
pretty girls get a pass at being dozens ANYWAYS
CLOCK
gowon being on this list should be a crime tbh…
yeah I kinda agree but she eats her 0.1 sec parts ngl… so I think this fairs it all out and also I love her crispy voice lmao like it’s not the best in loona but still fun listening to… so yeah…
@@benedettaaaaa_ yeah… I do agree on the later part tbh
@@yveslynthis is about dozens right? Loona would NOT be the same without gowon. She doze a lot acrually like you know those little parts she does? whenever they come on ANYONEEE can tell thats her. she can hold a note! she's not the best singer but she's not as bad as half the people on that list! And she CAN dance be fr.. again not the best but I wouldnt say mid
hyewon be having off-stage presence than on-stage presence
I’m a hyewon ult but I can’t help but agree but at least she’s pretty like!!!
i can see how baekhyun would date ms. "alicia keys is pretty for a black girl"
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nahh😭😭
was not that mistranslation or smt
what is bangchan doing here....??🤨😶
Sehun def a dozen because why did he only say 3 letters for the first 3 years of his career
Well i mean that was before, have you seen exo’s killing voice video? He’s progressed a lot on his vocals and he’s a good dancer
@@dropsofsaturn i meant to say that at the beginning of his career he was one woops
lmaoo😭😭
But right now Sehun probably sing longer than your bias cuz he improved a lot and not dozen anymore. Sehun can rap, sing, and dance. Also he is a successful model he got a lot of luxury brands deal that your fav can’t even have it hahahaha
@@Jess-tn1inah yes because luxury brand deals = talent apparently?
Nayun from Momoland is the REAL dozen, argue with the wall
Omg She literally didnt have any purpose in the group
Like zero stage presence, zero dancing abilities, zero vocal skills
nayun and shuhua are having a dozen-off as we speak
in my opinion it’s sakura, people say she can dance and that she’s improving but let’s be real almost everybody in leserrafim can dance their ass off. her vocals suck, her rapping? no comment, and her dancing and stage presence are okay, but if you remove her lesserafim their songs and performances would NOT change.
I've been saying this like she didn't bring anything to Momoland 💀 She has like the worst stage presence in Kpop Industry, & lazy dance with mediocre vocal
10:47 he does sound like mr crocker here and i cnat stiaqwp laughing asf 💀
i would put dahyun from twice in does well in one aspect because can she perform? well no! but behind the scenes? that girl can write AND compose which is pretty impressive for a jyp idol.
yh
Same for Chaeyoung! I think the only dozens in Twice are Mina and Tzuyu (with Mina holding a note at least).
I feel bad for hiyyih because she isn’t necessarily bad or good at anything I mean people saying she only debuted because of her brother were rude but it’s kinda true like besides her having a good personality what else is she great at
like she’s pretty as hell that’s it tho
^^ she’s not even that pretty either though wtf her brother looks better than her and he’s funny looking himself 💀💀💀
What personality???
@@indianbellydancer1 they're both pretty be fr
@@indianbellydancer1 nahh be fr she looks better than him even when they look alike 💀but yeah i don't find neither of them THAT talented, they are just fine
What’s evil about this is that they put MINA on here (who can actually hold a note but only on a tuesday evening while the full moon is out) instead of SANA who can’t offer anything to the group except gargling her voice to go high
Well no she has great stage presence and can dance well I would not have put Mina here either but NTM on my girl
I never lie when i say Sana is the most overrated member of twice (along with Chaeyoung who can only sing in studio but sounds worst than Momo while singing live)
Sana gives stage presence and cunty dancing leave her alone
@@spheksophobiaurinal leave my girl chaeyoung alone she's so pretty
Yall are forgetting about Tzuyu?
She don't do nothing
6:36 is that Winwin from NCT?? 💀lowkey he is a dozen though omg
is it really lowkey though?
winwin highkey dozen and jungwoo not a dozen
while you're on this tier ranking streak you should rank bgs because i believe gg stans are a lot more reasonable about bgs since they're not ready to fall on their knees for the men
real
felt that but for me it’s opposite bc i’m a fuckin lesbian so i be ranking the men hard as hell and going all soft for the girls LMFAOOO
@@nuclearclarity3778 same like my gg playlist is almost 300+ and i put it on constantly but my bg playlist is not even 100 and i touch it once in a blue moon
@@wompwomp4961same
Fr
off-topic but did you see loossembles debut teaser? the vocals are sooo good
kinda funny because onda is here, like, shes a dozen but NOT the main dozen of everglow, likee at least she can hold a note unlike yiren
loossemble debut september 15th 6pm kst with title track "sensitive" yall better tune in
Momo being on here and not Tzuyu and Sana is a crime
tzuyu is there u buffoon
sana is NOT a dozen
@@meIatoninwhat does she do
@@haknyeonsoh
@@yoonasapple she dances and she's a performer let's be srs
I keep rewinding the “oh that’s BONG-CHON” part girl😭
OUR QUEEN AJA IS BACK I AM FINALLY MOTIVATED TO DO MY WORK
V should be on that list
be serious
real af at least he is fine SOMETIMES
hes just like jisoo & jin only there to be pretty/sexy
@@lu-th2nqso does Beomgyu.
Beomgyu has no Talent.
Just visual and Personality
@@49unghtHyat least beomgyu isn't overrated
gaeul above eunchae is a choice but ily queen !!
the fact that you dragged so many of my fav idols here yet i ate this vid up like there's no tomorrow
love how funny and real u are
REALL
frr
put gowon and vivi back in youre mad right nooooowww or at least in mind your business!!! gowon can do it all lets not lie
here after loossemble's debut... and with vivi center, vivi singer, vivi dancer, vivi ACTRESS, you were absolutely correct about people just being mad
ngl chaeyoung can dance (when she wants to)
The way you skipped over yeri 😭
Oh you think u were slick nd we wasnt gon notice you demoting vivi and gowon down four whole tiers.... You will begin coughing in 3 days.
OHH WAIT A MINUTEEEEEEE
Its giving 2 face
Gaeul is the best dancer in IVE. She reminds me of Chaeryeong actually except a bit weaker as a vocalist. The better technical dancer in her group but gets overshadowed by the 2nd best with more charisma (yujin and yeji, respectively) but watch a dance comparison for love dive and you'll see her ability. Her details and isolations and consistency are great
nobody had Ondas back like I did..
i love the love hate "relationship" i have with you, one video i laugh with you, one video im laughing at you
No cap, I like the songs chaeyoung has written
6:33 GIRL THATS WINWIN FROM WAYV OMG
@@benedettaaaaa_ lmao 😭😭😭
“That's mina *long silence*” 😭😭😭
why they gotta add minju this is why she's never coming back😭
You be humbling the kpop community so damn well
NOT MR CROCKERJDJDJD
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lia recently rapped in none of my business and it was.. ☠️ BUT I STILL LOVE HER YK
From my observation, kpop stans these days will gladly hating any member who only specialised with one skill set. Also obsessing with the calling everyone all-rounder, even though their skill sets are mid.
someone said jennie was an ace ☠️..
The funnest part of this video is actually people on the comments still trying to defend these dozens 😭 c'mon guys let's not lie to ourselves
@@benedettaaaaa_stopped reading after momo clearly ur confused
@@benedettaaaaa_momo dances
@@R0lImomo is incredible dancer ntm on her come on…
@@R0lIy’all don’t have to like her voice but she’s an above average dancer stop playing with ha!
@@kunpunko & what did xiumin say about dancing? we not watching choreo when we listening on spotify
giselle have a dozen of talents.
IM 2 MINUTES IN THIS VIDEO WHY IS CHAERYOUNG HERE??? WHY IS MOMO HERE???? WHY IS GISELLE HERE??? CRAZY YALL PUT MY SISTERS YUNA, CHAERYOUNG AND LIA AMONG THE DOZENZ BUT DIDNT ADD RYUJIN??/
Right? Like it’s Lia holding the notes. If she’s not there then who’s gonna hit half of the notes?
Lia can hold a note but she’s ok at dancing so I can kinda see why she’s here (I’m still mad about it but i understand) but chaeryoung and yuna here is diabolical
GAEUL IN THE THUMBNAIL 😭😭😭
THE WAY I STARTED CRYING
bae will always be my girl
A Selena stan saying this just seems appropriate
@@mesmereized And why u care that much?
okay but i need u to know that everytime i watch ur tier vids in our living room my dad tunes in and asks me to explain references of the tier names 😭 like tell me why im explaining what a khia is to a 50 year old man 😅😅
Jungwoo is not a dozen..He is 5th in vocals ..in all NCT units..Dont know about NCT Wish. He gives a lot in danicing too. And also listen to the album PERFUME . He has come a long way and SM wouldnt give him an album if he was a dozen.💚
yesss he is amazing
BET THE BITTER STANS SNUCK MINA IN THERE YALL MAD SHE GETS PERMISSION TO ENTER THE STUDIO ONCE IN A WHILE YALLS FAVES DONT
not jungwoo being here.... do yall even know what dozen means?????
10:08 i think he really is johnny from nct 127
also ntm on bae she most def CAN sing
Chae is probably far from a dozen. Y’all may not like her but she is talented. Her rapping and dancing is decent and she can actually hold a note. Her writing is pretty good too
And that’s why she’s there, you even said it yourself she’s “decent” not good but that’s ok lol
@@Sillybillywilly24 That doesn’t make any sense. Even if she’s decent she’s still far from being called a dozen
Mina sings really well and she performs well too. I think in terms of keeping up with the group and not making things look sloppy, all of twice does well. Some groups aren’t too great as performing as one.