Thank you very much for all this very precise research. I am doing my first « historic » dress for a Renaissance ball and I chose ~1530 Tudor fashion. However I have to consider not only historical accuracy but also cost and practicality. For exemple, yes Tudor dresses don’t have showing lace because on the bust of the overdress it was pinned. But I am not trained wearing pins while dancing (not trained in dance at all) so I am not taking any risk and I will have lace in the back. As for the hood, even though movies greatly exaggerate the angle, you say it was raised by their braids, but I have short hair, I can’t even braid them 😂, so I am wondering if I am not going to try and artificially raise the hood a little to fake it. Also, I think I am going to make it in one piece, because it will be less fabric, and again I am not risking it with the pins 😂, I am waaaaay to clumsy !
Glad you enjoyed the video! If you would like some suggestions for your outfit... How about a wig to braid? Years ago, a friend of mine bought a Halloween wig to use because she had very short hair. Yes, pins were used on the dresses (fun fact: Amish and Mennonite women use pins today for some of their items, like pinning their aprons over the skirt part of their dresses). If you don't use pins, then I recommend covering your grommets with thread with a privacy panel underneath (to help draw less attention to the lacing). Or do lacing up the front and pin the panel on top of the lacing (look at the picture of Jane Seymour, 3rd wife of Henry VIII to see pins near her left arm on the front panel). Hope this helps! Hope you have fun at the ball! 😀
Fascinating. I always wondered about how the French hood worked. They are certainly more natural looking than the gable hoods that look some sort of torture device invented to give women terrible headaches every time they had to wear one. Aren’t you thankful for the invention of the bobby-pin to keep hair in place? BTW what is hair tape and how does it work?
Here is a tutorial on hair taping: th-cam.com/video/hjIiUMcMyBs/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared Mainly, it's a long ribbon that's braided into your hair with 2 braids, then weave the tail ends of the ribbon on your head to secure the braids around your head. This type of hairstyle can still be found worn at Octoberfests.
• Anne de Bretagne is pronounced Bre-tan-yuh • Diane de Poitiers is Dee-ann de Pwah-tee-ay • Antoinette de Fontette is Ann-twon-ett de Fawn-tet • Pieter van Coninxloo is Coh-ninks-law • Bongrace is Boh-grass, like Bone but without the n • Bavolet is Ba-voe-lay • Kunsthistorisches is one word and it's pronounced Koon-stit-horr-shez
I look at it like I would the movie itself. Was the movie entertaining vs. historically accurate? Was the costume pretty / functional vs historically accurate? Maybe give one award for pretty costumes and give another award for historically accurate costumes?
@@LynneFairchild Probably too confusing. When I view a history piece, the costumes are very much a part of the narrative. I want accuracy. I want to feel like I have stepped back into time.
Is it possible that there was no set way to wear it. That say,a elder lady would admonish a daughter for choosing to wear her hood to high on the head for giving the girl the apperance of being above herself and the other court ladies. The daughter replying..oh mother mine, do bring your sensibilities into the later days. This is how the generation to which I belong are choosing to arrange the hood in such manner. I find it much more flattering, your taste are so dusty and betray your age you quote to all... Because I so totally cam see that conversation taking place....
The tiara is ALWAYS pronounced Kock-OSH-nick. The accent is on the middle letters ‘osh’. It is not a drink of cocoa as you are pronouncing it as COCO-shnick
I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T MADE ONE FOR YOURSELF YET. THAT PRINCESS AND THE UNICORN CAP IS DEFINITELY NOT ANYTHING ELIZABETHIAN! ONE WONDERS WHY YOU SHOWED IT TO US AS IT DETRACTS FROM THE REST OF YOUR EXCELLENT ARTICLE.
Thank you for your compliment on my article. French hoods were more common during the Henrician (Tudor) period than the Elizabethan (not Elizabethian) period. I'm not sure to which picture you are referencing. The French hoods that are worn in various movies and TV shows are made incorrectly (in my opinion) and therefore worn incorrectly. This inaccuracy has made it difficult to purchase a historically accurate French hood. Just go to Etsy and type in 'French hood' to see what I am referring to. Therefore, I am currently working on a more historically accurate pattern to make myself a hood. Please keep an eye out for an upcoming video on this subject.
My thoughts: French hood is 3 pieces , linen coif, red silk coif ( crepine on either) and the actual hood with billaments . Definitely NOT 1piece . Look at the statues . After making these it’s easy to see why they’re separated pieces . . If you are going to attempt to teach you should work out your pronunciation before hand ,
I agree that a French hood was made of multiple layers. I address this specific topic at 7:15 in this video. A year ago, I made a video about researching and recreating a more historically accurate hood. th-cam.com/video/1AcuYfVMWO4/w-d-xo.html
The issue turns on the position of the bun on the head. To the rear, it is flat. Higher, the hood will lift. The argument that the hair was laced speaks in favour of layers, making a raised hood less likely, and is reinforced by your kokoshnik case. But you did miss something, the Spanish mantilla tradition which dates from the late 16th Century, and would have been present in the Spanish Netherlands, ie Brussels. The de Fontette ephigy adds a detail: the forehead ribbon may well be tablet-woven, and continue to the base of the skull. This fits with thevTudorvTaylor argument of a foundation bonnet. Conninxloo = Konings lieuu, King's Place Bavolé, Slightly softer é Fon-tet with a slight aspiration on the last t, not qutit fon'tete
Anne de Bretagne, the Duchess of Brittany united the region of Brittany with France upon her mariage to King Charles VIII of France..upon his death she married his heir Louis XII, who later married Mary Tudor upon Anne's death. The English never forgave the betrayal of Anne, whose father had been a staunch supporter of Henry Tudor before he became Henry VII at Bosworth.
Thanks for watching! ☺️ Would you prefer to wear a gable hood or a French hood?
Definitely French !!
I would prefer the gable hood. But when creating a Tudor costume, I didn't know how to make it, so I created a French hood. Turned out great
Thank you very much for all this very precise research. I am doing my first « historic » dress for a Renaissance ball and I chose ~1530 Tudor fashion. However I have to consider not only historical accuracy but also cost and practicality. For exemple, yes Tudor dresses don’t have showing lace because on the bust of the overdress it was pinned. But I am not trained wearing pins while dancing (not trained in dance at all) so I am not taking any risk and I will have lace in the back. As for the hood, even though movies greatly exaggerate the angle, you say it was raised by their braids, but I have short hair, I can’t even braid them 😂, so I am wondering if I am not going to try and artificially raise the hood a little to fake it. Also, I think I am going to make it in one piece, because it will be less fabric, and again I am not risking it with the pins 😂, I am waaaaay to clumsy !
Glad you enjoyed the video! If you would like some suggestions for your outfit... How about a wig to braid? Years ago, a friend of mine bought a Halloween wig to use because she had very short hair. Yes, pins were used on the dresses (fun fact: Amish and Mennonite women use pins today for some of their items, like pinning their aprons over the skirt part of their dresses). If you don't use pins, then I recommend covering your grommets with thread with a privacy panel underneath (to help draw less attention to the lacing). Or do lacing up the front and pin the panel on top of the lacing (look at the picture of Jane Seymour, 3rd wife of Henry VIII to see pins near her left arm on the front panel). Hope this helps! Hope you have fun at the ball! 😀
Fascinating. I always wondered about how the French hood worked. They are certainly more natural looking than the gable hoods that look some sort of torture device invented to give women terrible headaches every time they had to wear one. Aren’t you thankful for the invention of the bobby-pin to keep hair in place? BTW what is hair tape and how does it work?
Here is a tutorial on hair taping: th-cam.com/video/hjIiUMcMyBs/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Mainly, it's a long ribbon that's braided into your hair with 2 braids, then weave the tail ends of the ribbon on your head to secure the braids around your head. This type of hairstyle can still be found worn at Octoberfests.
• Anne de Bretagne is pronounced Bre-tan-yuh
• Diane de Poitiers is Dee-ann de Pwah-tee-ay
• Antoinette de Fontette is Ann-twon-ett de Fawn-tet
• Pieter van Coninxloo is Coh-ninks-law
• Bongrace is Boh-grass, like Bone but without the n
• Bavolet is Ba-voe-lay
• Kunsthistorisches is one word and it's pronounced Koon-stit-horr-shez
Thank you.
I think the accent is on the second syllable: ko-KOSH-nik.
Good to know. Thanks!
Thank your explaining this in detail! I've learnt a lot! :)
Glad it was helpful!
That was a fantastic session. I'm subscribed and looking forward to later videos!
Awesome, thank you!
I wore one for a tudor do. I found it that over the ears, it was hot and I couldn't hear so well. So those women had this problem too.
It definitely takes some getting used to with having your hearing limited, while wearing a hood.
What I find frustrating is how costume designers will be awarded the Oscar, for inaccurate costume designs. These designs are comic.
I look at it like I would the movie itself. Was the movie entertaining vs. historically accurate? Was the costume pretty / functional vs historically accurate? Maybe give one award for pretty costumes and give another award for historically accurate costumes?
@@LynneFairchild Probably too confusing. When I view a history piece, the costumes are very much a part of the narrative. I want accuracy. I want to feel like I have stepped back into time.
I like accuracy too.
Very informative. I subscribed and liked your channel
Thanks!
Interesting
Thanks!
Is it possible that there was no set way to wear it. That say,a elder lady would admonish a daughter for choosing to wear her hood to high on the head for giving the girl the apperance of being above herself and the other court ladies. The daughter replying..oh mother mine, do bring your sensibilities into the later days. This is how the generation to which I belong are choosing to arrange the hood in such manner. I find it much more flattering, your taste are so dusty and betray your age you quote to all... Because I so totally cam see that conversation taking place....
Yes, it's possible.
@@LynneFairchild droll and succinct, I like your style.....you GO, girl! ....
😀
The tiara is ALWAYS pronounced Kock-OSH-nick. The accent is on the middle letters ‘osh’. It is not a drink of cocoa as you are pronouncing it as COCO-shnick
Thank you.
I think it's "Koh-KOSH-nick" but I could be wrong
Thank you
Hmm, et is usually pronounced “eh”. Two t’s is “Ette”.
Good to know. Thanks!
I GUESS YOU HAVEN'T MADE ONE FOR YOURSELF YET. THAT PRINCESS AND THE UNICORN CAP IS DEFINITELY NOT ANYTHING ELIZABETHIAN! ONE WONDERS WHY YOU SHOWED IT TO US AS IT DETRACTS FROM THE REST OF YOUR EXCELLENT ARTICLE.
Thank you for your compliment on my article. French hoods were more common during the Henrician (Tudor) period than the Elizabethan (not Elizabethian) period.
I'm not sure to which picture you are referencing. The French hoods that are worn in various movies and TV shows are made incorrectly (in my opinion) and therefore worn incorrectly. This inaccuracy has made it difficult to purchase a historically accurate French hood. Just go to Etsy and type in 'French hood' to see what I am referring to. Therefore, I am currently working on a more historically accurate pattern to make myself a hood. Please keep an eye out for an upcoming video on this subject.
My thoughts: French hood is 3 pieces , linen coif, red silk coif ( crepine on either) and the actual hood with billaments . Definitely NOT 1piece . Look at the statues . After making these it’s easy to see why they’re separated pieces . .
If you are going to attempt to teach you should work out your pronunciation before hand ,
I agree that a French hood was made of multiple layers. I address this specific topic at 7:15 in this video.
A year ago, I made a video about researching and recreating a more historically accurate hood. th-cam.com/video/1AcuYfVMWO4/w-d-xo.html
The issue turns on the position of the bun on the head. To the rear, it is flat. Higher, the hood will lift. The argument that the hair was laced speaks in favour of layers, making a raised hood less likely, and is reinforced by your kokoshnik case. But you did miss something, the Spanish mantilla tradition which dates from the late 16th Century, and would have been present in the Spanish Netherlands, ie Brussels. The de Fontette ephigy adds a detail: the forehead ribbon may well be tablet-woven, and continue to the base of the skull. This fits with thevTudorvTaylor argument of a foundation bonnet.
Conninxloo = Konings lieuu, King's Place
Bavolé, Slightly softer é
Fon-tet with a slight aspiration on the last t, not qutit fon'tete
Thank you for the added information.
Anyone else have issues with the audio?
I just clicked on the video. The audio is working fine for me. Is the audio for other videos working for you?
Anne de Bretagne, the Duchess of Brittany united the region of Brittany with France upon her mariage to King Charles VIII of France..upon his death she married his heir Louis XII, who later married Mary Tudor upon Anne's death. The English never forgave the betrayal of Anne, whose father had been a staunch supporter of Henry Tudor before he became Henry VII at Bosworth.
Thank you for the extra information.