ANOTHER GUEST bets me...how do you think it goes? (Debate Highlight)
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calling us predators and pdf files while believing children should be forced to stay pregnant and give birth 💀
this is the dry rot that comes from generations of people, dudes in particular, playing shallow lip service to the idea of femininity without understanding things like just how risky and deleterious pregnancy is.
bro was completely and utterly full of shit when talking about his kid’s school
0% of me believes him
This guy sees furries and thinks that furries are identifying as literal animals. lol
He probably has raised some conservative shit ass kids that try to start stuff with teachers
This guest definetly watches libs of tiktok
Gotta love how this dude tried to paint himself as the typical “love the sinner hate the sin” kind of well-meaning Christian, only to drop the facade by making multiple pedo accusations. I wonder if he stood around shaking his head in disagreement at every trans kid he saw at the Pride parades he definitely and totally went to.
Your patience is amazing.
"it's p€dophiIia because I don't like it" essentially. Which is funny, considering said belief is based on *religion* of all things
Damn this guy is just following the script, at this point we should start a trans debate bingo
Its always "I feel like it's pedophilia"
@eve0nline03 and they'll never say the next line that they all want to say which is "and you're poaching on my targets"
13:00 Most things are against his religion. He just happens to have a problem with the few things he *personally* disagrees with. It's got nothing to do with religion.
yeah, he sounded like a mixed fabric wearing, shrimp eating dude to me
Brandon is the kind of guy that thinks you can just man up out of a panic attack and that a manic depressive person just needs a hug/slap on the back as accordingly. he doesnt know a damn thing about helping someone medically
"Doctor, this person has 5 broken bones! We need to operate asap!" - "Na just give the patient some support. No medication or operation, just support.😊"
“Doctor this person is having terrifying hallucinations!”
“Well they’re 15 years old so they need to wait before they can receive medical care.”
I didn't need that open heart surgery when I was four years old. I was waaaaaay too young for that. What I really needed was some well meaning support for the hole in my heart. Lmao.
@@gtbrannog95you were too young to make a permanent life altering decision for yourself.
"Doctor this child is choking! We need to get out the object from their airways asap!"
This guy: "I would love to save this child from choking to death but my hands are tied. If I open their airways, there is a 0.1% possibility I could damage their airways permanently.
But there are good news aswell! As soon as this child hits age 18 they can come back to me so we can remove the airway blockage. At 18 they can male these risky decisions."
Doctors on the pain tolerance of black women:
The annoyed sigh he gives when he says “rape victims” says so much about his character, or lack thereof.
Honestly he sounded like he was stroking it. Dude is a freak
right like he views them as an inconvenience to HIS ARGUMENT!! Like "Ugh, I wish those whiney babies didn't OWN the debate right now. It's pretty much impossible to be openly pro life to a T right now"
Bro compared the decision to transition to a career decision lol
To becoming a _TH-camr_ lmfao
Damn dude, Anchorage is literally just a city completely populated by furries and trans people according to this guy.
Dude just has special eyes
@@FERAL_MECHANICAL_NOMATIC Oh he’s special alright.
@@FERAL_MECHANICAL_NOMATIClook. Look through your special eyes.
Otherkin and Therians are not furries
@@atheistmando4976 Right my mistake. I forgot how sky high the population of Otherkin/Therians in Anchorage fucking Alaska.
Is it really a bet if you know you'll win anyways?🤣🤣
Free money glitch
My 3 year old once said to me "Father, I do not understand why they are trying to indoctrinate us with this transgender ideology" and that's when I understood how rampant this issue is.
As someone in grad school becoming a therapist, as well as workin in behavioral health for 4 years in a patient facing care role GAC, particularly social transitioning, is the best means to eliminate any immedate issues that arise. Those issues tend to be external, it isn't gender dysphoria and the internal distress due to their gender its how their parents, peers, teachers, and other adults treat them. They are depressed, anxious, having high self-harm and suicidal ideation due to how they are treated, especially if they are in states that are dangerous for them to be in, i.e Texas, Mississippi, Missouri, and Alabama.
Listening to people like the caller is impossible.
I was outed to the entire school as being gay when I was 12 and that same day a girl I had been friends with pushed me down a flight of concrete stairs and told the teacher nearby that I had tried to kiss her. Guess who got detention? (Hint: it wasn’t the girl who pushed me)
This was in Florida in the early 2000’s. And it’s just happening all over again.
20:45 otoh ALL parenting is experimenting. Good parents are constantly trying things and shifting and adapting and experimenting. OMG has caller ever met a child?
24:17 this guys poor kids - if one of them is queer, I hope TF he has a come to Jesus moment and picks his kids over his bigotry
26:46 oh god, he’s an activist parent
35:06 efffff him. My kid is alive because we DID do everything, including therapy, including support and you know what they needed? Puberty blockers and then HRT. Under a doctor’s care. FFS. My kid was so supported and still wanted to not be alive. I am livid.
These people are insane. They get so emotional over their fantasy world not being reality that they forget statements they said two minutes after they say them.
16:51 bro, how does the guest not understand how percentages of populations work.
Caller: Give them therapy until their 18. Me: Ok what do you do AFTER they're 18? What do you do when a trans woman is 40, has gone through male puberty and is 6'3 with linebacker shoulders and a rug of hair on her back, and her gender dysphoria is through the roof to the point her life is miserable?
Call Jovan "Bites the Dust" cause these callers are stuck in a time loop
Holy shit I get that reference
Oh my fuckin god, I love this. Accurate.
@@GoldenWeebplease! Let me in on this cuz I know this is a good reference to something 😅
My man forgot the word homosexual lmao
Ack! Homosexual, transgender, cisgender, gender, sex. IT'S ALL THE SAME! IT'S THE SAME! Only straight is the true gender sex sexuality identity.
Therapy in relation to gender affirming care is not political. This guy thinks it's political.
People who go to therapy don't talk about politics. That's not what therapy is for. Therapists are not trying to make your child vote blue.
Well he thinks school teachers are teaching kids about sex change operations and encouraging kids to get one, so I guess in his mind there’s democrats lurking around every corner trying to trans his kids lol
Did he call birth control child-unaliving?? I think he's confusing abortion pills with the daily pill...
Unfortunately I have met people who are so stupid that they honestly thought preventing a pregnancy from happening was a sin on par with killing a living breathing child.
No his point was birth control interferes with the "natural process" of reproduction so he's against it
Its also likely because conservatives have equated abortions with birth control
12:19 Are the furries in the room with us right now?
He saw some pup players at a pride parade once and thought they identify as dogs 😭😭
>Sees a guy in a fur suit
“He thinks he can grow a tail!”
If my daughter wanted to become a youtuber I'd give her a camera and see what she wanted to do creatively.... Bad comparison
Also odds are this dudes children don't see him as a good person
Watching this live was INSUFFERABLE and i wish these old ass dudes would stop lying saying they are 30 and they clearly sound 47
Caller is so lost in life 😅
Guest REALLY just kept getting crazier the longer the convo went on 😅
I'm an adult, my brain is fully developed and I want EVERYTHING male puberty gave me to be eliminated, I want my body to be as it WOULD have been had I not gone through male puberty, my dysphoria is through the roof most days, to the point I've self harmed, what do I do now, caller?
This man gives "I'm not cis" and "are you sure you're trans?"
He talks about how we should engage with a trans child, but doesnt understand that gender affirming care IS engaging with them, rarther than denying them. He also says being a man has never come up in his life but being a male christian, most likely has ideas of what a man should do in situations, like his role in caring for his children.
I’ve never heard such a bold faced lie as when he claimed that he didn’t think of himself as a man. Puh-lease! 🙄
I've never seen someone argue so hard for something that they know absolutely nothing about
Fee fees 😂
"You are not engaging with children, you are just affirming them" No that's not what happens. No trans person has ever not heard the phrase "well are you sure you're trans?"
Therapists talk with their patients for hours and days. Just to make sure they are indeed a trans person.
At four years old, I was way too young for a body altering open heart surgery. With support, good parenting, and positive vibes, I could've just walked off the hole in my heart, lol.
Ok so his kid is queer and he’s terrifying his kid. Anything that kid said to him is bc he’s terrified of his 0 to 60 rage.
"Every person should be their true self (cisgender) in order to find happiness. Every boy should stay a boy and every girl should stay a girl.
But I'm not a man. Being a man is not part of who I am. I am a man according to woke ideology. I have never identified as a man. Ever." - This super believable guy
That was so bizarre. He thinks kids and their genders need to be “left alone” (by the kids themselves I guess?) but later tries to insist that he doesn’t identify as a man and that his gender means nothing to him? Weird ass turn around.
kids are not to question their gender identity. All these transphobeswant, is to indoctrinate kids into thinking "i have a vagina, that makes me a future incubator woman" @@CharlieApples
Jovan: "Is being a man a part of who you are?"
Caller: "No, I don't think about it much"
That's called male privilege my guy.
5:40 in & im painfully reminded on why MEN should never be writing legislation that effects my repoductive system. They literally have 0 clue how pregnancy works.
It’s amazing that this caller refuses to hear that gender affirming care starts with therapy.
after every debate they go “well i don’t know what else to say, i just feel like this is wrong” but aren’t they the same people who say facts don’t care about your feelings??
Forcing a child to remain pregnant is pdfile behavior.
“But it’s another life…” also wants to make it illegal to have an abortion at 8 weeks. HOW ABOUT MY LIFE
Sorry if you’re forcing a teenager to have a baby who’s been raped then you absolutely are punishing people for your belief. Tf?
“It’s an experiment because we don’t know enough about it.”
No, dude, YOU don’t know enough about it… guest really said this right after saying that he’s just spitballing about the negative effects because he’s never looked into it. How is he arguing for a position he’s never verified? Why do these people always stand 10 toes down on opinions they made in a vacuum?
Sorry we can't go watch movies, I gotta go to the You-Are-Not-Trans-Support-Group, where they help me with not being trans.
“Daddy, help! My teacher is trying to make me gay and I don’t want to be!” - said no child ever
@@CharlieApplessaid no person ever. "Dad my priest is touching me and telling me to be straight. Little boys love men apparently" said a lot of children
Claims he’s never heard of this “ideology” before but knows 3 childhood friends who transitioned when they were young? The lying got out of hand🤦🏾♂️🤣
Parents are in no way qualified to teach children, just because they are parents. Even more so, religious parents shouldn’t at all be teaching any children.
Hello I am a single non- professional person who has concerns reguatdless of how many systems and professionals are in place to assure the best and safest outcomes for the greatest number of people.
Jk, I'm actually a bad actor who didnt realize that all my dumb little anti-trans arguments have all been extensively addressed by smarter people who actually care.
This is how every anti-trans debate goes.
bruh opened up with what do you consider a racial slur, and i mentally checked out
Im amazed at how you’re able to maintain your patience when listening to people repeat the same illogical arguments they all got from fox news in every single video. Every argument for each topic is almost verbatim from the last person’s.
The caller can’t believe in the old covenant and the new covenant at the same time. Leviticus was the coda for the Jewish people and if he is Christian, then with baptism into the church, one is brought into the new covenant
Listening to this guy deny the truth of his own reasoning made me so tense and angry. I could never have these lengthy debates. I'd have a heart attack!
"I'm not going to punish people for my beliefs but also children who have been graped should be forced to have babies"
Everything is an ideology to him too. Grambling ideology?!?!?!
"I like women and I am a man" but being a man isn't part of his life. "I am a father" which is a parental title for men, be they cis or trans. Trying to make the claim that gender does not affect your experience in life is ridiculous.
I know this pays some bills but this can't be healthy long term.
As a 21 year old woman that is still waiting to recive hrt it really sucks to suck xd
"Come to the straight side 😈😈"
I was experimented on because my parents couldn't find the right healthcare professionals for me right away when I was younger. Sure thing dawg. Experimental. Sure.
Honestly for someone like this I feel like your missing him throwing data and scientific data at him. He's a Christian and father I reckon the only language this guy will bend to is an emotional one. He has this warped idea that parents of trans kids don't know what's best for their children. He needs to put himself in the shoes of struggling but loving parent dealing with a suicidal kid after exhausting all possible methods besides gender affirming care. If a parent knows they're going to lose their child they're going to eventually attempt any possible method to mitigate that.
“Gambling ideology” is crazy
This guy knows or lives next to everyone for every argument …
5:07
It ALWAYS come down to religion with these callers.
So frustrating when they can't even demonstrate that their god is even real.
And especially when their holy book says their god has done some especially heinous things.
12:03 There is, they're called Otherkind and therianthropes (or otherwise, Therians). There's quite a significant numbers of studies on them, which all point to "identity similar to transgenderism" and has not been classified as a mental disorder/illness with exception of clinical zoanthropy/lycanthropy which is a delusion of being able to shapeshift into an animal, which isn't always harmful but it can be if there is not "species affirming care" (from what I've seen clinical zoanthropes don't wish for physical affirming care because in their belief they already are that body), if you will, like social transition, safe coping mechanisms and not reality checking them for generally inconsequential stuff which translates to Otherkind and Therians too. Studies have revealed that the Otherkind and Therianthrope identity isn't inherently a delusion or disorder, like previously mentiones clinical zoanthropy, and merely an identity and/or belief.
For context, I'm trans and Idgaf if someone wants to be an animal or believes themselves to be animals, I think it's metal as hell tbh. They can also experience supernumerary phantom limbs and (atypical) dysphoria, just like trans people (SPL on trans people would be like, feeling a different chest or intimate parts). I do not think it's harmful in any way, and I believe the trans ppl who cry about them saying that they're making fun of us, are frankly just playing respectability politics and trying to appeal to transphobes. Besides, there's a large chunk of Otherkind and Therianthropes who are transgender.
Unlike what you see on Tiktok and all, about Therians and by extension Otherkind, they are a very real group of people whose body doesn't align with their identity. If you want to see Otherkin and Therians and how they interact with their identity, you can go to Anthony Padilla's channel and search for his video interviewing them.
Also it's frankly irrelevant to keep bringing up Therians and Otherkind, like who gives a shit if a kid gets fox ear bands or even buys a fursuit to look more like the animal they are, like whoooo careeess. Besides, there's no science today that legitimately can Give you animal ears, tails and other stuff that work as intended unlike gender affirming surgeries today. More thanmaybe prosthetic nails, sharpening of canines and teeth and pointy ear prosthetics but all of those are like...cosplay stuff as well, which is inconsequential.
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When people on these calls get belligerents I automatically assume that it was not A real conversation and that the person is just a troll
Don't make me think my phone is ringing dawg
you don't grow up to become a man or woman... your literal physical growth determines you going from child to adult. some people say "little man" or "young woman", but in fact in definition they know and you know they are in fact not men or women until they would be older... everyone knows that, but being a man or boy woman or girl isn't determined by your age. i can see how the older gentleman might be confused.
Bro really saw furries and thought to himself “they think they’re actually animals” 😂😂
This guy is exhausting. His entire worldwide is based on feelings. The cognitive dissonance of him wanting to control other people's lives who he doesn't know while pretending he is advocating for their best interests is mind boggling. I would respect him more if he just came out and said trans people make him feel icky so he wants them to kill themselves. At least then there could be an honest discussion.
These people don’t want social studies topics like identity and relationships taught because it’s “sexual” yet I’m sure they have no problem with Romeo and Juliet being taught even though it’s a story of underage children’s sexual relationship in which they get married and then commit suicide at the end.
YESSS been waiting for a precious hang up from you🎉🤌🔥