I'm more of a CD person but this video makes me respect dedicated vinyl collectors more. I had no idea vinyls were so delicate. It's making my K-pop CD collection look hardy and those things I rarely take out of their boxes and sleeves anymore because I'm afraid of dropping/scratching them with how cheaply their boxes and sleeves are made. (I was a really big fan of one K-pop group in the mid 2010's, my only other CDs so far are 5 Vocaloid metal/rock releases and a Billy Joel album)
I'm just getting started with my collection, I actually started because of this channel, so thanks for that. Right now I only have 4 vinyls, but it'll get a lot bigger soon i hope, so this video came at the perfect time for me
@@sewerslidemgI have moonlight Sonata, Buju Banton, Jimi Hendrix, Nas, City Morgue, Portal, carcass, and black fuckinf cancer all in vinyl. Vinyl is also just fantastic way to just see the amount of shit you didn’t know you were into
God that moving story is too real. When I moved a couple years back I filled the back of my dad's pick-up truck with JUST bins of vinyl. Hours were spent packing, then unpacking, then putting it all away so we could use the bins for other stuff. Fun times.
This was strangely interesting as someone who was a massive record collector in the 80s and early 90s.1) letting records slip into their sleeves - not only can you damage the vinyl, but over time and too much speed, you can cause the inner sleeve and the outer sleeve spines to fray and split; 2) ooh, get you and your fancy rough sleeves! 😛Records without printed inner sleeves used to have a slightly waxed and very flimsy white sleeves. They not only were perfectly adequate, but were also pretty good for keeping static off; 3) glad to see you're no longer getting your grubby mitts over the vinyl...that drove me mad in earlier videos😆; 4) bitd, using an anti-static brush similar to the one you have, the done thing was to start at the centre and then in a circular direction gradually move it outwards with the groove, in a slow, almost diagonal motion, about two or three revolutions would get you to the outer rim. This prevented a build up of dust/static forming in a line which could only really be removed by then brushing against the groove; 5) the stylus and weight of the arm are probably the most important parts of a turntable. Dust will build up on the stylus over time, but this can be easily removed with fingers if you're careful. The arm needs to be heavy enough to catch the record groove. If it's not, or if some of your records start jumping, balancing a 10p piece (or whatever the US equivalent is) should do the trick. Many albums released in the latter half of the 80s were on cheap, lightweight vinyl with thin grooves so even a well-balanced arm didn't catch all the time; 6) wrong genre, but never try and do 80s hip hop-style scratching with any beloved albums - a) it will sound like crap, b) it can totally bugger up the vinyl.😉
This is why I keep the number of records in my collection at sub 50 all the time, filling up entire shelves with records may be tempting but ultimately seems like overkill
I have some autism to add to this. The two largest factors in care are cleaning records and taking care of your stylus. At the bare minimum, people should wet clean records in some fashion or even better, vaccum clean them. And the stylus... Yeah, not paying attention to your stylus is probably where most people will end up damaging their albums without knowing it. 1) make sure you stylus is aligned properly. That means making sure your anti-skate isn't completely out of wack and checking your tracking force with a scale. If you're tracking over the recommend weight or your anti-skate is off, you're unevenly wearing down the groove walls over time. 2) stylus life. I know some manufactures say you'll get a thousand hours of playtime out of a stylus but that's utter shit. You might hit that if you run a line contact on nothing but pristine wax but most people are using ellipticals. You'll likely want to change your stylus between 300-500 hours because wear will likely start during this time (800 or so if using Shibata, ML stylus, ect..). Playing records with worn stlyi permanently wears out the groove. If you hear distortion or sibilance in music where it was previously smooth, STOP. Get a replacement stylus. 3)clean your stylus. Just one of those little brushes is all you need. I would advise against things like Onzow as it's been discovered that an oil used in it's production causes some of them to leave a sticky residue on diamond which does not come off. Likewise, clean records keep that stylus happy and extends the life much longer. Clean records + stylus care = records that still sound great 40 years later. And about the dreaded Crosley, the damage comes from the fact that they use a sapphire stylus which has a lifespan of 40 HOURS. Combined with a higher than average tracking force, that thing will shred grooves. The people who own them don't know how soon they're really supposed to swap styli out (not like they can hear the distortion on the trashcan speakers inside those decks anyway). Edit:Just to be clear, vinyl wear is a very gradual process. You have to really screw up badly to make an album unlistenable. But like Wyatt said, shit is expensive. Take care of it.
Stylus care is something I slack on sad to admit. I’m in the process of getting a stylus brush to help with the dust build up and probably going to get a stylus back up for the turntable soon.
@@wyattxhim the good thing about your VM95E (which I think is what you're running?) is that the body can take any of the styli in the line. Assuming your cart came aligned in the headshell already, you can get a ML or SH stylus next if you wanted. Just a thought.
I'm totally lost on stylus/cartridge. I have a dry stylus brush and the wet brush stylus cleaner that came with my audio-technica. I use those but when do you have to change out the cartridge too? I know the actual stylus only lasts so long but I'm confused about the cartridge mostly.
@@exploringwithasmr No, cartridge bodies will practically last forever. You only need to change the stylus periodically. The only time you need to fiddle with the actual body is if you have a moving coil cartridge because those don't have removable styli. In those cases, they need to be sent for retipping or you'd just buy another. If you're asking, you probably use a moving magnet cart so the process is super simple when the time comes.
Great video man! 👌as far as hobbies go, indeed there are many hobbies that cost a lot of money. Personally, I collect music, film, videogames & am an avid tattoo collector. Talk about expensive hobbies lol
1:40 another thing about moving with records/transporting them: they are deceptively heavy! Holding one record always feels so light, but even my very modest record collection of somewhere around 70 records is heavy as fuck. I was putting them on a shelf and the shelf started to break--I could HEAR it breaking--so I had to panic and quickly move them to the floor level shelf.
1st) Thank you for the video. I am a long-time vinyl collector and had forgotten some of these. 2nd) One tip I have is that you should clean the stylus as well. Mofi makes a stylus cleaner that allows you to remove dust that collects from the groves of the record that a brush doesn't always get.
Was hoping you would make one of these videos one day. Do you use a velvet brush and spray for wet cleans? Or brush/stylus liquid cleaner? I'm totally lost on stylus/cartridge change out.
Fantastic video!!!! I'd had a Sony for a long time it eventually broke I bought a victrola with a CD n tape player I can't play most 7" I should up grade n get better shelving, and thoughts on victrola, im sure im gonna get blasted
Couldn't agree more, got quite a few vinyl stored in vinyl boxes. Also, as a table top wargamer./ role-player It has a steep cost to get into, with the painting & building of the miniatures is an ongoing project. That's not taking into account of the terrain pieces & taking them to different places to play.
The only thing I'll never understand is why record collectors always put the outer protective sleeves so that the upper part is "open". Therefore all the dust can get into the sleeves. I personally whould put the outer sleeves the exact other way on the records so the dust stays 100% outside. However since I am only collecting CDs of japanese artists, CD protective sleeves always cover up the entire CD case so I don't have the problem with an open gap.
The problem (at least for me) is that if you put an open part facing the other way there is a risk that record will slide out of the sleeve when you take it out of the shelf.
So there was one time I tried throwing a record on and the song was a half-step down from normal. Do you know what causes this? Nothing was changed with the speed by the way.
I collect vinyl but never play my records but my question is temperature my apartment can get very hot 🥵 would that do harm to my records & is the care the same for my 45s/7” records?
The things that bother me are not the hassle with records, but the things pressings plants and labels do like nonexistent quality control when you get brand new record thats already scratched or warped, making unnecesary things like printed innersleeves, shrinkwrapping, pressing 45min albums on double lp
@@wyattxhim alright, I currently have a T150 turntable from them (haven’t played many records on it) and when I get more comfortable with records I’ll keep that in mind
I feel like the people who complain about any given hobby just don't like the idea of committing to something. Anyway, even if this video is "redundant", I feel like it's nice to have someone people feel like they can trust telling them such info. On the subject of turntables, there's no reason to buy anything that doesn't have a metal platter. If you get one with a plaster platter, it's not going to have as much weight which means it wouldn't keep momentum which results in skipping.
Crosleys are truly garbage but when I first started my record collection I had no idea lucky for me I only kept my crosley table for about 6 months because I realized how shitty it was. 1 bonus check from work later and I bought a really nice pro-ject table and it was money well spent
Perhaps it was a no-brainer, but I had to learn it the hard way, never try to clean your records with sulfuric acid. While grindcore bands might actually benefit from this procedure, Sinatra suffered a stereophonic slow death experience...
Victrola Turntables are total Shite as well. I know they were once the standard long ago, the company that bought the name and started making Turntables when they became popular again use very cheap materials. They can ruin your vinyl by having a heavier than normal tone arm that pushes the needle hard in the grooves. Just a warning. I try to avoid paying full price for vinyls if i can cause some of them let's be honest here are grossly overpriced. I'm not paying $60 for a single record just cause companies think that they can gouge us collectors. I buy used when I can or get it right from the band. Clearance sales are good and waiting for the price to come down are good options as well. Sometimes on Amazon the pricing algorithm drops them steeply. I was able to get VR Sex's last album for $12 taxes in cause the algorithm dropped the price 80%.
I myself have a Crosley but mine is higher end and was a $400 gift. Very satisfied with it and it’s probably the best model they make. With that being said, there’s a lot of shitty crosley’s out there but mine isn’t one of em
@@wyattxhim the only problems with 8 track tapes are 1) the 8 track players have been obsolete for years 2) the 8 track tape itself has problrms with sticking during a track.
I'm more of a CD person but this video makes me respect dedicated vinyl collectors more. I had no idea vinyls were so delicate. It's making my K-pop CD collection look hardy and those things I rarely take out of their boxes and sleeves anymore because I'm afraid of dropping/scratching them with how cheaply their boxes and sleeves are made. (I was a really big fan of one K-pop group in the mid 2010's, my only other CDs so far are 5 Vocaloid metal/rock releases and a Billy Joel album)
I'm just getting started with my collection, I actually started because of this channel, so thanks for that. Right now I only have 4 vinyls, but it'll get a lot bigger soon i hope, so this video came at the perfect time for me
Same
It will find what u love so many phenomenal genres
@@sewerslidemgI have moonlight Sonata, Buju Banton, Jimi Hendrix, Nas, City Morgue, Portal, carcass, and black fuckinf cancer all in vinyl. Vinyl is also just fantastic way to just see the amount of shit you didn’t know you were into
Those inner sleeves were such a game changer for me. Can’t recommend them enough
God that moving story is too real. When I moved a couple years back I filled the back of my dad's pick-up truck with JUST bins of vinyl. Hours were spent packing, then unpacking, then putting it all away so we could use the bins for other stuff. Fun times.
This was strangely interesting as someone who was a massive record collector in the 80s and early 90s.1) letting records slip into their sleeves - not only can you damage the vinyl, but over time and too much speed, you can cause the inner sleeve and the outer sleeve spines to fray and split; 2) ooh, get you and your fancy rough sleeves! 😛Records without printed inner sleeves used to have a slightly waxed and very flimsy white sleeves. They not only were perfectly adequate, but were also pretty good for keeping static off; 3) glad to see you're no longer getting your grubby mitts over the vinyl...that drove me mad in earlier videos😆; 4) bitd, using an anti-static brush similar to the one you have, the done thing was to start at the centre and then in a circular direction gradually move it outwards with the groove, in a slow, almost diagonal motion, about two or three revolutions would get you to the outer rim. This prevented a build up of dust/static forming in a line which could only really be removed by then brushing against the groove; 5) the stylus and weight of the arm are probably the most important parts of a turntable. Dust will build up on the stylus over time, but this can be easily removed with fingers if you're careful. The arm needs to be heavy enough to catch the record groove. If it's not, or if some of your records start jumping, balancing a 10p piece (or whatever the US equivalent is) should do the trick. Many albums released in the latter half of the 80s were on cheap, lightweight vinyl with thin grooves so even a well-balanced arm didn't catch all the time; 6) wrong genre, but never try and do 80s hip hop-style scratching with any beloved albums - a) it will sound like crap, b) it can totally bugger up the vinyl.😉
hate those paper sleeves, so many records i don't play often because i don't want to deal with them
Jus get anti static sleeves literally never have to deal with them again
I started a vinyl collection because of you. So far I bought vinyls from Ingested, Whitehouse, Integrity, and Flesh Grinder.
Oh nice you also got the Gauntlet vinyl. The cover art is sick.
This is why I keep the number of records in my collection at sub 50 all the time, filling up entire shelves with records may be tempting but ultimately seems like overkill
Thank you for the tips 👍
Great video. Thanks for the info
I have some autism to add to this.
The two largest factors in care are cleaning records and taking care of your stylus. At the bare minimum, people should wet clean records in some fashion or even better, vaccum clean them. And the stylus... Yeah, not paying attention to your stylus is probably where most people will end up damaging their albums without knowing it.
1) make sure you stylus is aligned properly. That means making sure your anti-skate isn't completely out of wack and checking your tracking force with a scale. If you're tracking over the recommend weight or your anti-skate is off, you're unevenly wearing down the groove walls over time.
2) stylus life. I know some manufactures say you'll get a thousand hours of playtime out of a stylus but that's utter shit. You might hit that if you run a line contact on nothing but pristine wax but most people are using ellipticals. You'll likely want to change your stylus between 300-500 hours because wear will likely start during this time (800 or so if using Shibata, ML stylus, ect..). Playing records with worn stlyi permanently wears out the groove. If you hear distortion or sibilance in music where it was previously smooth, STOP. Get a replacement stylus.
3)clean your stylus. Just one of those little brushes is all you need. I would advise against things like Onzow as it's been discovered that an oil used in it's production causes some of them to leave a sticky residue on diamond which does not come off. Likewise, clean records keep that stylus happy and extends the life much longer.
Clean records + stylus care = records that still sound great 40 years later.
And about the dreaded Crosley, the damage comes from the fact that they use a sapphire stylus which has a lifespan of 40 HOURS. Combined with a higher than average tracking force, that thing will shred grooves. The people who own them don't know how soon they're really supposed to swap styli out (not like they can hear the distortion on the trashcan speakers inside those decks anyway).
Edit:Just to be clear, vinyl wear is a very gradual process. You have to really screw up badly to make an album unlistenable. But like Wyatt said, shit is expensive. Take care of it.
Stylus care is something I slack on sad to admit.
I’m in the process of getting a stylus brush to help with the dust build up and probably going to get a stylus back up for the turntable soon.
@@wyattxhim the good thing about your VM95E (which I think is what you're running?) is that the body can take any of the styli in the line. Assuming your cart came aligned in the headshell already, you can get a ML or SH stylus next if you wanted. Just a thought.
I'm totally lost on stylus/cartridge. I have a dry stylus brush and the wet brush stylus cleaner that came with my audio-technica. I use those but when do you have to change out the cartridge too? I know the actual stylus only lasts so long but I'm confused about the cartridge mostly.
@@exploringwithasmr No, cartridge bodies will practically last forever. You only need to change the stylus periodically. The only time you need to fiddle with the actual body is if you have a moving coil cartridge because those don't have removable styli. In those cases, they need to be sent for retipping or you'd just buy another. If you're asking, you probably use a moving magnet cart so the process is super simple when the time comes.
Congrats on buying a house my friend!
Very informative. Just started collecting records a few weeks ago.
Please cover needle care. That would be dope
Thanks for this, just in time to save my stack of vinyl
NEVER STACK YOUR VINYL!!! 😱 *tuts*
Great video man! 👌as far as hobbies go, indeed there are many hobbies that cost a lot of money. Personally, I collect music, film, videogames & am an avid tattoo collector. Talk about expensive hobbies lol
1:40 another thing about moving with records/transporting them: they are deceptively heavy! Holding one record always feels so light, but even my very modest record collection of somewhere around 70 records is heavy as fuck. I was putting them on a shelf and the shelf started to break--I could HEAR it breaking--so I had to panic and quickly move them to the floor level shelf.
Not all heroes wear caps. Thanks for this
1st) Thank you for the video. I am a long-time vinyl collector and had forgotten some of these. 2nd) One tip I have is that you should clean the stylus as well. Mofi makes a stylus cleaner that allows you to remove dust that collects from the groves of the record that a brush doesn't always get.
Nice sergal profile pic!
@@wheelsofmercury Thank you!
Was hoping you would make one of these videos one day. Do you use a velvet brush and spray for wet cleans? Or brush/stylus liquid cleaner? I'm totally lost on stylus/cartridge change out.
With me usually if I ever buy a record it’s either a holy grail or it’s the only format that’s available for a particular album
Show us your band shirts dude
Fantastic video!!!!
I'd had a Sony for a long time it eventually broke I bought a victrola with a CD n tape player I can't play most 7" I should up grade n get better shelving, and thoughts on victrola, im sure im gonna get blasted
Couldn't agree more, got quite a few vinyl stored in vinyl boxes. Also, as a table top wargamer./ role-player It has a steep cost to get into, with the painting & building of the miniatures is an ongoing project. That's not taking into account of the terrain pieces & taking them to different places to play.
Ring wear is cool, it's like a faded t-shirt. Also Ringwear would be a cool band name
YOUR T-SHIRT!!!
Not only that ,Wyatt
Try lifting a stack of records , they're freaking heavy !
Wyatt: "Make sure to always store your records vertically!"
Me: *glancing over at my horizontally stacked haul* 😬
If it makes you feel better we've all been guilty of this at least once lmao
@@themetalmeltdownofficial 😅😆😬
The only thing I'll never understand is why record collectors always put the outer protective sleeves so that the upper part is "open".
Therefore all the dust can get into the sleeves. I personally whould put the outer sleeves the exact other way on the records so the dust stays 100% outside.
However since I am only collecting CDs of japanese artists, CD protective sleeves always cover up the entire CD case so I don't have the problem with an open gap.
The problem (at least for me) is that if you put an open part facing the other way there is a risk that record will slide out of the sleeve when you take it out of the shelf.
So there was one time I tried throwing a record on and the song was a half-step down from normal. Do you know what causes this? Nothing was changed with the speed by the way.
Either there *was* something wrong with the turntable motor, your stylus arm was too heavy, or it was a faulty pressing. I'd go for the latter.
Thoughts on anti static guns?
I collect vinyl but never play my records but my question is temperature my apartment can get very hot 🥵 would that do harm to my records & is the care the same for my 45s/7” records?
Hey man you need to make a list of instrumental black metal bands. I'm listening to Hungerwinter for days.
Listen to Spektr - The Art to disappear
The things that bother me are not the hassle with records, but the things pressings plants and labels do like nonexistent quality control when you get brand new record thats already scratched or warped, making unnecesary things like printed innersleeves, shrinkwrapping, pressing 45min albums on double lp
When you say Crosley, do you mean the brief case ones or just the brand overall?
Overall but mostly the brief case ones
@@wyattxhim alright, I currently have a T150 turntable from them (haven’t played many records on it) and when I get more comfortable with records I’ll keep that in mind
That's the very reason i prefer CDs.
A lot of the tips apply to CDs too.
I feel like the people who complain about any given hobby just don't like the idea of committing to something.
Anyway, even if this video is "redundant", I feel like it's nice to have someone people feel like they can trust telling them such info.
On the subject of turntables, there's no reason to buy anything that doesn't have a metal platter.
If you get one with a plaster platter, it's not going to have as much weight which means it wouldn't keep momentum which results in skipping.
First! 🤘
albert?
I love collecting vinyl, but my other hobby is collecting bottle caps, and that’s solely because of Fallout 3.
Crosleys are truly garbage but when I first started my record collection I had no idea lucky for me I only kept my crosley table for about 6 months because I realized how shitty it was. 1 bonus check from work later and I bought a really nice pro-ject table and it was money well spent
I just throw mine on the floor
I personally think that scratching the records/pouring water on the record while playing really adds to the aesthetics!
Perhaps it was a no-brainer, but I had to learn it the hard way, never try to clean your records with sulfuric acid. While grindcore bands might actually benefit from this procedure, Sinatra suffered a stereophonic slow death experience...
Victrola Turntables are total Shite as well. I know they were once the standard long ago, the company that bought the name and started making Turntables when they became popular again use very cheap materials. They can ruin your vinyl by having a heavier than normal tone arm that pushes the needle hard in the grooves. Just a warning. I try to avoid paying full price for vinyls if i can cause some of them let's be honest here are grossly overpriced. I'm not paying $60 for a single record just cause companies think that they can gouge us collectors. I buy used when I can or get it right from the band. Clearance sales are good and waiting for the price to come down are good options as well. Sometimes on Amazon the pricing algorithm drops them steeply. I was able to get VR Sex's last album for $12 taxes in cause the algorithm dropped the price 80%.
I myself have a Crosley but mine is higher end and was a $400 gift. Very satisfied with it and it’s probably the best model they make. With that being said, there’s a lot of shitty crosley’s out there but mine isn’t one of em
I really never owned a vinyl because they are too brittle and they break easy and I'm more of a CD collector of black metal
I never understood the appeal of collecting vinyl over cassettes as a Black Metal collector
I never understood the appeal of cassettes when 8-track cartridges have a more authentic sound
@@wyattxhim I never understood the appeal of 8-track cartridges when holding the band at gunpoint gives you the best results.
@@wyattxhim I never understood the appeal of giving a shit how BM sounds
@@wyattxhim the only problems with 8 track tapes are 1) the 8 track players have been obsolete for years
2) the 8 track tape itself has problrms with sticking during a track.
Do you ever play your BM tape collection? Oh, the hours I spent armed with metres of crushed, tangled, twisted tape and a pencil...🙄
I prefer CDs
Nothing wrong with that 🙂
CASSETTES ARE SUPERIOR!
damaga, damage, damage, damage.. the reason why i lost interest
I'm not very good at collecting vinyl records because of my hands. My mom said that.
outer ring wear!11 ha
Lmao that’s why i collect casettes 🥲👌