This series is brilliant and it's great to see a female rider this time. It was a good choice of bikes all but the suzuki, I thought the Tiger was a great choice but surprised a brand new Tracer 9 didn't make an appearance.... I think she would've enjoyed that
didn't ya hear....she doesnt want & is prejudiced against jap bikes....oh ok, cya. it hurts because i want ppl to have reliability , spare parts, actual heritage , light weight ...and low cost . must be one of those prude millionaire folks. k
I love this series, very interesting, but ... I would love to see a picture of the bike the customer is currently riding. Stating it's a 'Multi box VF750DX with the Eval package' doesn't mean a thing to me without checking Google! It would make the contrast between that bike and your suggestions that much more exciting. Cheers. Keep up the good work.
Yes! Great idea. Also, I think learning about the mods/customization they’ve done to the bike would help them understand what is important to the rider. I have a GS, and I can look at another GS and get a pretty good feel for what type of riding they like to do.
I often wonder why bikes are still in the stone ago as far as rider triangle and height adjustment goes. Being short legged and long/large bodied myself I've found most sport/offroad style bikes are designed around what seems to be a 6 foot bean pole and then anyone else is left to get on with it. Great if you're 6 foot with an average leg/arm/torso length. On certain bikes it makes some sense because of the parts location but on most it seems like its simply a design decision for no other reason than most of the customers are expected to be that size. Factory options for bars, pegs and ride height wouldn't be hard to offer along with the growing number offering different seats. Considering the price of some bikes I don't think button-adjustable suspension would be much to ask either. I think three ride heights with their appropriate settings already programmed would be a lot more useful to most people than rider "modes" which really just numb the throttle and up the electronic intervention - especially on something like a GS where low may be a great set up for a motorway then medium for rough roads and high for the full go everywhere experience.
I really love the WBN episodes. It brings the human element to the table, making a great balance of individual needs as well as the various bikes to suit. Thumbs up from the south west coast of the island of Australia (ie, the west island of New Zealand).
Would have expected to see the Honda CB500X ! Adventure styling but more road based, low seat height, easy to slow speed manouvre and great for touring and commuting as well. New price around 7000 pounds if I remember correctly, so with her budget she could fully kit it out with all bells and wistles, and still have money left over to spend on a holiday. Apparently with a lowering bracket an 800mm seat height. Although maybe the engine wont excite her enough. The problems she felt with the BMW are most likely terrible suspension set up. Suspension is probably set up for a way heavier rider, and putting 500 towards a suspension specialist would go a long way.
She called the Triumph Tiger 900 bland and lacking in torque! But really she meant less engine braking than the Multistrada. Since she's used to a Multistrada I think she wants a big engine.
Very interesting episode. I spent 11 years on a 2013 1200S GT Multistrada, I did loads of tours on it both home and abroad. I traded it in earlier this year for a 2020 R1250R SE. I've already done 2500 miles including 2 mini tours of Wales. It's superb! I'll be taking it to the Pyrenees next year. As soon as you pulled back the cover, I thought, yep, she's gonna love it! A longer test ride is probably in order...
Thanks for doing an episode that shows the problems us short riders face, I'm 5'6" but have a very short 29" inseam so when Triumph raised the seat height of the new Street triple RS to 836mm I thought my third ST was gonna be too tall, luckily Triumph gave the option of a 28mm lower seat which made the bike a much more reasonable seat height and I love the bike.
My wife has a quite similar height (2 cm smaller). Maybe I missed it, but it would have been really great to see how Leonie actually fits on the bike, respectively if her feet touch the ground or not, how she stops and manouvers at low speed.
Keep an eye on the channel because you invited Leonie back after recording this to help with a ‘Top Tips for Shorter Riders’ feature. It’s coming soon!
On the Triumph the balls of my feet were just about down, it was light & nimble (paddling it backwards was possible), on the BMW it was the same - but heavier. The Suzuki I needed ladders 😂. Slow speed maneuvering is always my place to practise to learn a new bike or refresh myself on my own bike. Happy to go through a few things with your wife if she'd find it helpful
Great to see an episode where the seat height is a key factor. I am taller than Leonie and also like the adventure bike style and versatility but am put off by 83+ cm seat heights. The suzuki fiasco is a good illustration of the problem. In the adventure style the BMW F750GS is the only really low seat bike i know. Will be checking out the V2 that was mentioned. Great episode.
Low seat height is always good. I'm 185cm and I sat on a Transalp in the showroom, it's too tall for my liking. Lower seat and centre of gravity makes a bike more maneuverable.
You sir, think like me. I was really hoping that the V85TT would have been hunted down for Leonie, especially when she revealed her spending budget. Maybe she'll read the comments and we'll get her thinking!
@@Jonathan-Lthe V85TT was definitely on my list & I forgot to say it when they asked. It always depends on what SBK factory have in at the time, it was a great day riding different bikes though 😊
Argh... P-Strom disaster! 😂 Difficult brief, for a shorter adventure bike fan. Multi V2 might fit the bill, although I reckon that F900 XR could've been a contender... Good to see the return of WBN! Cheers 👍
The Diavel was discounted because of its cruiser-style. The first bike chosen was Simon’s and surely you watched enough of the episode to see what that actually was…!
Without naming bikes, I'm surprised that the second bike was one without electronic suspension (give away is the colour of the forks) I thought most versions sold in the UK came with that specced). That could have helped with the front end feel. Great video and Leonie was a fantastic guest!
R1250rs comes with a 760mm low seat height option plus screen plus 3 piece luggage. Might have been a better shout. Might have needed a 1200 though for the price range.
I would propose a factory low chassis BMW R1200 GS. Im just under 5'8" and ride a GS Adventure Low chassis with the seat in the standard height position and ESA Pre load on Auto & i can almost flat foot it. The GS Low chassis is a bit shorter than the GSA Low Chassis (but i have the GSA as it is wider and therefore has better weather protection). I also have bar risers fitted that bring them up and (crucially) back by about 1" because not surprisingly I have short arms as well as legs and this mod means i am not reaching to the bars and pitching forward. I've just been to Germany on it and its really comfortable, capable and nimble, oh and an absolute hoot to ride. If you don't rev it hard I wonder if the shift cam of the 1250 brings you any benefits? Also the Transalp has a low seat option, they had one the bike show last year.
I have a 30” inseam, and after test riding everything opted for the Suzuki GSX-S 100GT! Seat height is 810mm and my feet fully touch the floor no problem. Put it in C mode and it will pootle about on a trip to the shops, select A mode and it grows horns for a high speed bomb down the A roads. A great bike and fantastic value for money.
Thanks JMJ, that was on her shortlist (pardon the pun) but SBK Factory didn’t have a suitable example to show her/let her ride. Since we recorded this episode, Leonie has bought a Multistrada V2. So you can take 1 x brownie point! Cheers, Michael
Triumph Tiger 900 GT Factory Low, comes with cruise and luggage options for touring. Seat height 770-790 mm but slightly out of budget at £12,195 new but there must be some 2nd hand ones out there. Or a Tiger Sport 850, new £10,095, standard seat height 820-840mm but a 3D mesh technology low seat reducing that to 790-810mm. A fairly simple bike with no cruise option but in some ways a lot of bike for the money. I would definitely start with manufacturers who have dedicate low chassis models.
I've had to pause after the intro and say how good it is hearing the absolute clarity and history of Leonie and what she has in mind..... I'm sure I'll enjoy seeing what bikes have been chosen for her. Back to the video, woohoo
Great show really enjoyable, I’m always amazed at the bikes they choose, or in this case, didn’t , may be you should of let the sales assistant pick the 3 bike 😊
Thanks for that. In every other episode, we do have a 'sales expert' from Superbike Factory pick the mystery bike... but they couldn't get one involved in this episode, hence the P-Strom. Don't worry, normal service will be resumed for episode 7.
V strom 600 without question bullet proof not too heavy realible comfy what more do you want ???????? Either way hope she gets a bike she is happy with.. At 70 years old going through the same dilema. I have actually bought a Honda Silver wing 500 and am about to spend some hard earnt cash just getting it up to todays standards because as a bike I love it so so comfortable not too fast not tooo slow and Honda reliability but add to that the lugage capability there is no other bike to match it ?? Why they stopped making them God only knows !! Over and out !!!
@@gordanmoran4549 yeah it's not one where you add throttle in any gear and you're immediately over any speed limit in the land, but it's a relatively light and nimble bike that can handle some off-road riding and is still faster than most cars on the road. Plenty of smiles per mile on offer!
Great fun video, brilliant. Yeh nah, it is Suzuki's fault. 855 is a stupid seat height that disqualifies a range of people, including me. Other adventure bikes are similar. Unnecessary and limiting, Leonie is right, time for OEMs to change. BTW What did she pick??
Absolutely one of the BEST show ideas and entertaining series on TH-cam! Production value is phenomenal, hosts are incredible, and the riders you select are always perfect. Well done!! Please keep them coming 🇨🇦
she wasn't worried about adventure style and what they give her doh , could have for her on something completely different to try , need to listen guys
Love this show ! I think you may of been on the money with the f900xr …. 2 other bikes that could fit the bill our thé KTM 790/890 adv and the aprilia toureg 660 . Keep up the excellent work !!! 👌
I was thinking a BMW GS 1250 (not the adventure) with a low seat option (taking the ride height down to between 800 and 820mm) would have been perfect for Leonie - loads of torque and all the weight low down to inspire confidence...
@@ryanmalone2681 true...forgot about the budget.. Would have to be the GS 1200 instead (although with the 1300 coming out next month (I believe) the prices on the 1250 may drop a touch!!
After watching the episode, I guess I get it now, but you could tell she really didn't need help choosing a motorcycle. Anyway, it's always funny to see a pop your cherry joke to a woman.😂😂🎉🍒
First comment of which I usualy make many because I am an a....hole !! Its not about height its about inside leg and also about your build Lets continue !!
Tuareg 660 or 2023 KTM 890 (base model)! She might find the Tuareg underpowered and a 2023 KTM 890 might be too pricey but otherwise they might hit the mark.
Can't believe Simons still a journo fair play ....I'm old old school and remember, Trevor Franklin, ronnie Smith, shakey Byrne , mossy micheal neaves etc . Glad someone made a living from it keep up the good work
Tiger 900 is a great bike...light, agile and plenty of grunt - seems to have more power than the 95bhp (+/-) stated. Not sure what she's after...for what she described at the start, it's perfect. Maybe if she had a bit more budget, she should try a KTM 890
Yeahh the guys are back! Can they out do the guys at the Superbike factory (or there is something different....)? Stay tuned to find out! Plus, hats off to her, she does know her stuff and riding a multistrada!
Obviously unnecessarily fast, but what about a 1290 super duke GT. You get the torque (duh), wind protection, luggage (sort of) as well as it being not stupidly tall or wide. Failing that, maybe an Guzzi V100?
Why choose overweight fat bikes? U doesn’t have a Himalayan for her ? It’s perfectly enough for everything I think she would like it. And for the budget she could buy two new. Another one for a friend or go for some nice adventure trips…
Hi Guys, I'm surprised you didn't offer Leonie a go on a 650 V-twin Suzuki V-strom. She said V-twins are her favorite, wants grunty bottom end and not bothered about absolute power. Plus 650 stroms are touring maestros.
While she's just swinging over the BMW... Not a brand I would even consider. I don't know anyone with a 10 year old European bike that actually goes, but I know plenty of people with 20 year old Japanese bikes that are still going strong. but it is a good looking bike , admittedly it's a style I love & I couldn't blame her for choosing that one, even if it is a brand I wont touch. But then there's the V-Strom. ok from personal experience with s V-Strom, she may not like where the handlebars sit. the 8S is in a better spot, but it's only the seat height, and maybe the firmness of the rear that will let this down... Coming back after thinking about it, The GSX 8S would have been a winner had it been an option, or even the 8R if fairing is a must, but just for the reason of why I liked the look of the BMW, the 8S would be my pick... and possibly MY next bike!
Mt09 or Tracer 9. Love my GT+ 2023. HandGuards are ok, but broke several bones in the hand flipping over the bars when some old bloke pulled out on me from a side road... So not so sure!
Hmmm, I would not categorically rule out inline 4s. Many of the detuned Fireblade engines have really sweet torque, already down low in the revs. But you can still fire them off hard in the higher revs.
If the budget was lower a vfr800x crossrunner would have been a good shout, but I dont think they make it anymore and ita got no tech, and its heavier than the triumph. Honda could do something with that
I still don't understand the obsession with the T-plane crank. The Triumph triples are glorious and smooth with great linear torque across the rev range.
Shame she has an aversion to Kawasaki and inline 4s as the Ninja 1000sx would suit her needs. Funny how she seems to also have a fixation on engine braking! Great video all the same.
Price open to negotiation , NEVER ! Superbike Factory will never negotiate on price! always in theses what bike next videos they say the price will probably be open to negotiation. Not a chance ! Superbike Factory will never shift on price. I bought a bike from them and almost before I could speak they immediately said on the phone they won't accept offers. Was a good price though !
Why would they even recommend a bike without sitting on it and comparing the seat heights? She wanted a lighter bike and they recommend a 1250? A Yamaha Tracer 900 would probably be ideal for her. Or a Triumph Tiger 660. I wouldn't be asking them for recommendations.
I reckon she dismissed the BMW for some minor issue that could have been as simple as tyre pressure, or even the brand of tyre (I'm a Metzeler convert!). That's not to say the tyres on the BMW weren't good or the pressures weren't set right. Most bikes (the bigger and more expensive ones) take time to get acquainted with, so a quick ride around the local area isn't the same as owning one for a few months. The BMW's shaft drive should have made it an easy choice for her.
@@Jonathan-LI absolutely wanted to love the BMW. I test rode an SE version the following weekend, I'm capable of 200+ mile days on the Multi. I managed just about 70 on the test ride, the front end geometry & suspension really pushed me physically to the extent I had nerve pain. I was out with my other half on a low seat but otherwise standard GS, I rode that back to the dealership, he rode the R. I was gutted but glad I got the experience 👍
@@13Blakeley That's interesting feedback. It just goes to prove that we should never count our chickens before they hatch with anything in life. I must admit, all the bikes I've ever bought were picked on blind impulse, and I never thoroughly tested them or any alternative rival. Since I was a kid, I've been attracted to BMW R series starting in the mid 70s and still aspire to owning one. I'm a bit reluctant to own a chain driven bike, however the cons are really only minor (cleaning & adjusting). What will be your next bike? Japanese? Italian? German? British? Other?
Awww guys you let Leoni down not getting her on a (non Evo) Gen 3 Superduke, Factory soft panniers, Puig screen, lowest suspension settings. It would blow her away. Makes even the Ducati engine feel tame.
love watching these, and recently bought a bike from SBF Donington, but anyone who hasn't been and thinking about it should know the general public experience is very different, even on a quiet mid week day. at most you'll get a chance to have a good look and sit on a bike. no test ride, or even bike start/running prior to purchase. for every spotlessly clean bike there are at least two that look like they haven't been washed in months
@@dstev55 thanks. ive corrected. no complaints about SBS so far, only been to the MK branch though Harlow may be closer for me from Cambridge, if i can find it
It’s seems like what can we suggest other the brilliant and obvious Tracer 9 that woman likes to ride with a grin from ear to ear trouble is it would likely be the answer for most episodes
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“I want something lighter”
Bennetts - Here’s a 10 ton BMW
Behave, there’s only 4kg in it!
@@bennettsbikesocial I would of though if someone asked for something lighter I would be looking at around the 200KG mark.
Wet weight BMW vs dry weight Triumph moan.
KTM 890, Tracer 7 GT or F850 GS are my 3.
Nothing will beat the multistrada unless you go for weight.
if you have ridden one, you get that it doesnt feel heavy and isnt really that heavy as it's weight is fully fuelled... unlike most which are dry.
Love seeing female riders who’ve continued on with their training and not scared of big & tall bikes. Very cool. Respect.
This series is brilliant and it's great to see a female rider this time. It was a good choice of bikes all but the suzuki, I thought the Tiger was a great choice but surprised a brand new Tracer 9 didn't make an appearance.... I think she would've enjoyed that
Why so big and so much techy techy ?? Seems a CB500X would be a good option and use the money saved for many big trips.
You could have let her try the 2020 Yamaha Tracer 9....Great series by the way.
didn't ya hear....she doesnt want & is prejudiced against jap bikes....oh ok, cya. it hurts because i want ppl to have reliability , spare parts, actual heritage , light weight ...and low cost . must be one of those prude millionaire folks. k
I love this series, very interesting, but ... I would love to see a picture of the bike the customer is currently riding. Stating it's a 'Multi box VF750DX with the Eval package' doesn't mean a thing to me without checking Google! It would make the contrast between that bike and your suggestions that much more exciting. Cheers. Keep up the good work.
Definitely ❤❤
Yes! Great idea. Also, I think learning about the mods/customization they’ve done to the bike would help them understand what is important to the rider. I have a GS, and I can look at another GS and get a pretty good feel for what type of riding they like to do.
If you don't know what a 1200 multistrada is - where the hell have you been the last 15 years!
I know right? They definitely need to ride up on their "old clunker" to start the video.
I often wonder why bikes are still in the stone ago as far as rider triangle and height adjustment goes.
Being short legged and long/large bodied myself I've found most sport/offroad style bikes are designed around what seems to be a 6 foot bean pole and then anyone else is left to get on with it.
Great if you're 6 foot with an average leg/arm/torso length.
On certain bikes it makes some sense because of the parts location but on most it seems like its simply a design decision for no other reason than most of the customers are expected to be that size.
Factory options for bars, pegs and ride height wouldn't be hard to offer along with the growing number offering different seats.
Considering the price of some bikes I don't think button-adjustable suspension would be much to ask either.
I think three ride heights with their appropriate settings already programmed would be a lot more useful to most people than rider "modes" which really just numb the throttle and up the electronic intervention - especially on something like a GS where low may be a great set up for a motorway then medium for rough roads and high for the full go everywhere experience.
Yep!!
I really love the WBN episodes. It brings the human element to the table, making a great balance of individual needs as well as the various bikes to suit. Thumbs up from the south west coast of the island of Australia (ie, the west island of New Zealand).
Thanks for that, we're all chuffed if it entertains those who watch it.
Cheers, Michael
Would have expected to see the Honda CB500X ! Adventure styling but more road based, low seat height, easy to slow speed manouvre and great for touring and commuting as well. New price around 7000 pounds if I remember correctly, so with her budget she could fully kit it out with all bells and wistles, and still have money left over to spend on a holiday. Apparently with a lowering bracket an 800mm seat height.
Although maybe the engine wont excite her enough.
The problems she felt with the BMW are most likely terrible suspension set up. Suspension is probably set up for a way heavier rider, and putting 500 towards a suspension specialist would go a long way.
x2 on this, i was thinking CB500x all the time she spoke aboute the req, or the new transalp
She called the Triumph Tiger 900 bland and lacking in torque! But really she meant less engine braking than the Multistrada.
Since she's used to a Multistrada I think she wants a big engine.
Yeah she admitted to not being the fastest rider, the 500X would've suited her on all fronts really.
The Multistrada V2S will check all of her requirements!
That's exactly what I was thinking 🤦♂️
Keep trying boys. You get it right one day
Very interesting episode. I spent 11 years on a 2013 1200S GT Multistrada, I did loads of tours on it both home and abroad. I traded it in earlier this year for a 2020 R1250R SE. I've already done 2500 miles including 2 mini tours of Wales. It's superb! I'll be taking it to the Pyrenees next year. As soon as you pulled back the cover, I thought, yep, she's gonna love it! A longer test ride is probably in order...
I was very suprised that the Bike that came instantly into my mind was the BMW F900XR was not a choice offered. I recon th XR would be perfect!
Thanks for doing an episode that shows the problems us short riders face, I'm 5'6" but have a very short 29" inseam so when Triumph raised the seat height of the new Street triple RS to 836mm I thought my third ST was gonna be too tall, luckily Triumph gave the option of a 28mm lower seat which made the bike a much more reasonable seat height and I love the bike.
Me too and looking at a Street Triple some time when Spring arives.
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My wife has a quite similar height (2 cm smaller). Maybe I missed it, but it would have been really great to see how Leonie actually fits on the bike, respectively if her feet touch the ground or not, how she stops and manouvers at low speed.
Keep an eye on the channel because you invited Leonie back after recording this to help with a ‘Top Tips for Shorter Riders’ feature. It’s coming soon!
On the Triumph the balls of my feet were just about down, it was light & nimble (paddling it backwards was possible), on the BMW it was the same - but heavier. The Suzuki I needed ladders 😂. Slow speed maneuvering is always my place to practise to learn a new bike or refresh myself on my own bike. Happy to go through a few things with your wife if she'd find it helpful
Great to see an episode where the seat height is a key factor. I am taller than Leonie and also like the adventure bike style and versatility but am put off by 83+ cm seat heights. The suzuki fiasco is a good illustration of the problem. In the adventure style the BMW F750GS is the only really low seat bike i know. Will be checking out the V2 that was mentioned. Great episode.
Low seat height is always good.
I'm 185cm and I sat on a Transalp in the showroom, it's too tall for my liking. Lower seat and centre of gravity makes a bike more maneuverable.
Would the V strom 650 be lower? I'm the same height and have a CRF300 rally with the rally raid smaller wheels and it's ace!
Had a test ride on the 650xt and liked it but the seat felt high.
I am 5'8
@@waveman1500watch out for an episode coming soon - the Transalp's seat was too wide (to be comfy) but the Africa Twin was very rideable!
i think a v85tt [v-twin, lower seat, adventure style], or a 890/790 adv s would of been the right choice here.
You sir, think like me. I was really hoping that the V85TT would have been hunted down for Leonie, especially when she revealed her spending budget. Maybe she'll read the comments and we'll get her thinking!
I love that bike but I sat on it at the dealership and didn't bother test riding it, I felt dwarfed. I am 5'8. I must have shorter legs than average
@@Jonathan-Lthe V85TT was definitely on my list & I forgot to say it when they asked. It always depends on what SBK factory have in at the time, it was a great day riding different bikes though 😊
Argh... P-Strom disaster! 😂 Difficult brief, for a shorter adventure bike fan. Multi V2 might fit the bill, although I reckon that F900 XR could've been a contender... Good to see the return of WBN! Cheers 👍
Yep, I thought that was was a winner. Great bike.
@@ryanmalone2681check out the comments section: it looks like that was exactly what she brought! Top marks
Just seen this young lady at Ducati Leeds she's bought a V2s multistrada 😁
Hope you asked her for her autograph!
@@bennettsbikesocial haha you guy's made her a famous 😂
They missed a trick not including a KTM 890 Adventure here. Would have been perfect.
The woman said 'no cruisers' so first bike chosen a Diavel. Men don't listen:)
The Diavel was discounted because of its cruiser-style. The first bike chosen was Simon’s and surely you watched enough of the episode to see what that actually was…!
Without naming bikes, I'm surprised that the second bike was one without electronic suspension (give away is the colour of the forks) I thought most versions sold in the UK came with that specced). That could have helped with the front end feel. Great video and Leonie was a fantastic guest!
R1250rs comes with a 760mm low seat height option plus screen plus 3 piece luggage.
Might have been a better shout.
Might have needed a 1200 though for the price range.
Simon.... As my Nan would have said "Take your coat off, you won't feel the benefit"
Always ready for the ride!
... "Sponsorship" opportunity ?
I would propose a factory low chassis BMW R1200 GS. Im just under 5'8" and ride a GS Adventure Low chassis with the seat in the standard height position and ESA Pre load on Auto & i can almost flat foot it. The GS Low chassis is a bit shorter than the GSA Low Chassis (but i have the GSA as it is wider and therefore has better weather protection). I also have bar risers fitted that bring them up and (crucially) back by about 1" because not surprisingly I have short arms as well as legs and this mod means i am not reaching to the bars and pitching forward. I've just been to Germany on it and its really comfortable, capable and nimble, oh and an absolute hoot to ride. If you don't rev it hard I wonder if the shift cam of the 1250 brings you any benefits?
Also the Transalp has a low seat option, they had one the bike show last year.
I have a 30” inseam, and after test riding everything opted for the Suzuki GSX-S 100GT! Seat height is 810mm and my feet fully touch the floor no problem. Put it in C mode and it will pootle about on a trip to the shops, select A mode and it grows horns for a high speed bomb down the A roads.
A great bike and fantastic value for money.
I would say go for a BMW F800GS, Triumph 900 Scrambler, or a V-Strom 1000. All of them good for road, light off road, and touring.
Another excellent WBN. Surprised you didn't show Leoni a Multistrada 950 or V2S.
Thanks JMJ, that was on her shortlist (pardon the pun) but SBK Factory didn’t have a suitable example to show her/let her ride. Since we recorded this episode, Leonie has bought a Multistrada V2. So you can take 1 x brownie point!
Cheers, Michael
Triumph Tiger 900 GT Factory Low, comes with cruise and luggage options for touring. Seat height 770-790 mm but slightly out of budget at £12,195 new but there must be some 2nd hand ones out there. Or a Tiger Sport 850, new £10,095, standard seat height 820-840mm but a 3D mesh technology low seat reducing that to 790-810mm. A fairly simple bike with no cruise option but in some ways a lot of bike for the money. I would definitely start with manufacturers who have dedicate low chassis models.
I've had to pause after the intro and say how good it is hearing the absolute clarity and history of Leonie and what she has in mind..... I'm sure I'll enjoy seeing what bikes have been chosen for her. Back to the video, woohoo
Great show really enjoyable, I’m always amazed at the bikes they choose, or in this case, didn’t , may be you should of let the sales assistant pick the 3 bike 😊
Thanks for that. In every other episode, we do have a 'sales expert' from Superbike Factory pick the mystery bike... but they couldn't get one involved in this episode, hence the P-Strom. Don't worry, normal service will be resumed for episode 7.
V strom 600 without question bullet proof not too heavy realible comfy what more do you want ???????? Either way hope she gets a bike she is happy with.. At 70 years old going through the same dilema. I have actually bought a Honda Silver wing 500 and am about to spend some hard earnt cash just getting it up to todays standards because as a bike I love it so so comfortable not too fast not tooo slow and Honda reliability but add to that the lugage capability there is no other bike to match it ?? Why they stopped making them God only knows !! Over and out !!!
The answer to this was CB500X and you guys got it so wrong.
Lol where is the power or torque or grin factor 😅
@@gordanmoran4549 yeah it's not one where you add throttle in any gear and you're immediately over any speed limit in the land, but it's a relatively light and nimble bike that can handle some off-road riding and is still faster than most cars on the road. Plenty of smiles per mile on offer!
Too sensible for good viewing clicks.
I’m surprised they didn’t stretch to the TransAlp 750
love that Ducati take into consideration rider height. not all riders are 6ft.
Great fun video, brilliant. Yeh nah, it is Suzuki's fault. 855 is a stupid seat height that disqualifies a range of people, including me. Other adventure bikes are similar. Unnecessary and limiting, Leonie is right, time for OEMs to change. BTW What did she pick??
There also are too few options for taller riders who don't want an adventure style bike. Everything looks like a grom under me
Tiger 900 GT LOW works awesome for my wife's 5'3 1/2" frame. With the low suspension the bike feels incredibly light too.
She wanted a lighter bike with grin factor for shorter rider , so give her heavy bikes to ride??
Great to see a female rider this time. I miss this type of youtube show in Portugal.
This was the best show yet!
Keep it going.
Absolutely one of the BEST show ideas and entertaining series on TH-cam! Production value is phenomenal, hosts are incredible, and the riders you select are always perfect. Well done!! Please keep them coming 🇨🇦
Thank you MM, comments like this mean a lot especially when we're planning 2024's WBN content! All the best, Michael M
she wasn't worried about adventure style and what they give her doh , could have for her on something completely different to try , need to listen guys
Go V strom please and thats not me at the end of the vid V strom every day of the week in my humble opinion !!!!
Love this show ! I think you may of been on the money with the f900xr …. 2 other bikes that could fit the bill our thé KTM 790/890 adv and the aprilia toureg 660 . Keep up the excellent work !!! 👌
Yeah my first thought was the Tuareg 660. and the 890
A new Yamaha Tracer 7GT or even a Moto Guzzi V85TT would have been a much better choice than the Suzuki.
I was thinking a BMW GS 1250 (not the adventure) with a low seat option (taking the ride height down to between 800 and 820mm) would have been perfect for Leonie - loads of torque and all the weight low down to inspire confidence...
That would have been perfect except for the budget. That’s exact;t what I was thinking. The good ole Swiss Army knife of motorcycles.
@@ryanmalone2681 true...forgot about the budget.. Would have to be the GS 1200 instead (although with the 1300 coming out next month (I believe) the prices on the 1250 may drop a touch!!
Missed the boat with the F900XR... she would have loved it!
I liked the XR as an option, I was close to choosing this instead of the R 1250 R.
I’m an inch shorter than Leonie and just ordered the F900XR. It’s a great choice
Love this channel when buying bikes for the average joe.....Next would be great to see 6k budget superbike.
Haha been riding all my life I ride 21k Ducati now ,help me find my next bike 😂😂 I don't get it ...
After watching the episode, I guess I get it now, but you could tell she really didn't need help choosing a motorcycle. Anyway, it's always funny to see a pop your cherry joke to a woman.😂😂🎉🍒
I love my R1200R. I'd recommend it to everyone!
Love this series guys. What about Tracer 900GT. Got two height settings on the seat , comfy and practical and a triple?? 🤔🤔
Too tall
F 900 XR lowered factory option would have been a good option
Honda VFR800
First comment of which I usualy make many because I am an a....hole !! Its not about height its about inside leg and also about your build Lets continue !!
Tuareg 660 or 2023 KTM 890 (base model)! She might find the Tuareg underpowered and a 2023 KTM 890 might be too pricey but otherwise they might hit the mark.
Maybe an R9T variant?
The 1200 Multi is SUCH a tough act to follow as it’s so bloody good! I think the V2 (950) Multi would have been great for Leonie.
Check the comment a few up from this!!!
Should have tried a KTM 890 adventure masses of power light weight low down more exciting to ride than the tiger. Seat height would be low enough too.
I would have picked a Tracer 9 for her.
900 tiger no chance just put the cover back on for god sake !!!!!!!
Ducati XDiavel with mid controls
Can't believe Simons still a journo fair play ....I'm old old school and remember, Trevor Franklin, ronnie Smith, shakey Byrne , mossy micheal neaves etc . Glad someone made a living from it keep up the good work
G.S. dont even think about going there two heavy and bloody expensive to run mine was a pile of you know what !!
Tiger 900 is a great bike...light, agile and plenty of grunt - seems to have more power than the 95bhp (+/-) stated. Not sure what she's after...for what she described at the start, it's perfect. Maybe if she had a bit more budget, she should try a KTM 890
Great vid once again, thanks. I was surprised you did not bring a Tracer 9 GT to the table. BTW, I love Leonie's Bultaco T-shirt.
Yeahh the guys are back! Can they out do the guys at the Superbike factory (or there is something different....)? Stay tuned to find out! Plus, hats off to her, she does know her stuff and riding a multistrada!
Surprised by no tracer. Light, enough tech, seat height is low and could probs get a 2023 T7 or a slightly used T9 or a T900 GT and money for a tour.
Obviously unnecessarily fast, but what about a 1290 super duke GT. You get the torque (duh), wind protection, luggage (sort of) as well as it being not stupidly tall or wide. Failing that, maybe an Guzzi V100?
Early on I was thinking Versys 650 until..............
Why choose overweight fat bikes? U doesn’t have a Himalayan for her ? It’s perfectly enough for everything I think she would like it. And for the budget she could buy two new. Another one for a friend or go for some nice adventure trips…
Hi Guys, I'm surprised you didn't offer Leonie a go on a 650 V-twin Suzuki V-strom. She said V-twins are her favorite, wants grunty bottom end and not bothered about absolute power. Plus 650 stroms are touring maestros.
A 950 multistrada or Guzzi v85tt wouldve been a good choice i recon.
Definitely, but there wasn't a Guzzi in stock at SBK Factory.
While she's just swinging over the BMW... Not a brand I would even consider. I don't know anyone with a 10 year old European bike that actually goes, but I know plenty of people with 20 year old Japanese bikes that are still going strong. but it is a good looking bike , admittedly it's a style I love & I couldn't blame her for choosing that one, even if it is a brand I wont touch.
But then there's the V-Strom. ok from personal experience with s V-Strom, she may not like where the handlebars sit. the 8S is in a better spot, but it's only the seat height, and maybe the firmness of the rear that will let this down...
Coming back after thinking about it, The GSX 8S would have been a winner had it been an option, or even the 8R if fairing is a must, but just for the reason of why I liked the look of the BMW, the 8S would be my pick... and possibly MY next bike!
She’s very eloquent
Mt09 or Tracer 9. Love my GT+ 2023. HandGuards are ok, but broke several bones in the hand flipping over the bars when some old bloke pulled out on me from a side road... So not so sure!
Suzuki 800 230kg !! Is that wet or dry ? Why are people berating 234kg wet for the BM W which has a low weight distribution
Hmmm, I would not categorically rule out inline 4s. Many of the detuned Fireblade engines have really sweet torque, already down low in the revs. But you can still fire them off hard in the higher revs.
If the budget was lower a vfr800x crossrunner would have been a good shout, but I dont think they make it anymore and ita got no tech, and its heavier than the triumph. Honda could do something with that
Low seat, low suspension GS? Although she said she wanted smaller, She didn't like the 900T
I still don't understand the obsession with the T-plane crank. The Triumph triples are glorious and smooth with great linear torque across the rev range.
I want something lower and lighter than my multistrada.
We've picked this Suzuki that is taller and heavier. 😂
Shame she has an aversion to Kawasaki and inline 4s as the Ninja 1000sx would suit her needs. Funny how she seems to also have a fixation on engine braking! Great video all the same.
Price open to negotiation , NEVER !
Superbike Factory will never negotiate on price! always in theses what bike next videos they say the price will probably be open to negotiation. Not a chance ! Superbike Factory will never shift on price. I bought a bike from them and almost before I could speak they immediately said on the phone they won't accept offers.
Was a good price though !
Why would they even recommend a bike without sitting on it and comparing the seat heights? She wanted a lighter bike and they recommend a 1250? A Yamaha Tracer 900 would probably be ideal for her. Or a Triumph Tiger 660. I wouldn't be asking them for recommendations.
A himaleyan 450 would be perfect for this lady, in my opinion. Lighter but that adventure / touring ability
She should consider the Tiger 900 GT Low. Alternatively, the BMW F750GS Low. I think those would be ideal for her to consider.
I think suzuki sv1000n it's a low seat hight v twin. Engine breaking is awesome too. And they are light.
Great lass.
Tracer 9 gt
The V-storm 650 is the answer to all her wishes.
And safe a lot of money in the process as well;-)
I expect she would have been happier with the r1250rs with a better screen and panniers.
My thoughts exactly Brian, tried the RS a couple of days ago, loved it, surprised me, i had a Ninja 1000sx and prefered the RS to be honest
Agreed!
I reckon she dismissed the BMW for some minor issue that could have been as simple as tyre pressure, or even the brand of tyre (I'm a Metzeler convert!). That's not to say the tyres on the BMW weren't good or the pressures weren't set right. Most bikes (the bigger and more expensive ones) take time to get acquainted with, so a quick ride around the local area isn't the same as owning one for a few months. The BMW's shaft drive should have made it an easy choice for her.
@@Jonathan-LI absolutely wanted to love the BMW. I test rode an SE version the following weekend, I'm capable of 200+ mile days on the Multi. I managed just about 70 on the test ride, the front end geometry & suspension really pushed me physically to the extent I had nerve pain. I was out with my other half on a low seat but otherwise standard GS, I rode that back to the dealership, he rode the R. I was gutted but glad I got the experience 👍
@@13Blakeley That's interesting feedback. It just goes to prove that we should never count our chickens before they hatch with anything in life. I must admit, all the bikes I've ever bought were picked on blind impulse, and I never thoroughly tested them or any alternative rival. Since I was a kid, I've been attracted to BMW R series starting in the mid 70s and still aspire to owning one. I'm a bit reluctant to own a chain driven bike, however the cons are really only minor (cleaning & adjusting). What will be your next bike? Japanese? Italian? German? British? Other?
Awww guys you let Leoni down not getting her on a (non Evo) Gen 3 Superduke, Factory soft panniers, Puig screen, lowest suspension settings.
It would blow her away. Makes even the Ducati engine feel tame.
Great shout but I think the seat would be too tall and wide (because the engine is huge!). The torque would have been a real treat though.
@@bennettsbikesocial my SO is Asian and 2 inches smaller. With forks dropped, shock right down, on the power parts seat it's good. Try it out Leonie!
Without knowing her budget and having only seen the intro I would say Tiger 900 would be perfect.
I was gutted you didn't go with the triumph speedmaster! I think that would have been a winner.
Transalp is a better bike than the Suzuki anyways. Better engine, lighter and a better road bike
love watching these, and recently bought a bike from SBF Donington, but anyone who hasn't been and thinking about it should know the general public experience is very different, even on a quiet mid week day. at most you'll get a chance to have a good look and sit on a bike. no test ride, or even bike start/running prior to purchase. for every spotlessly clean bike there are at least two that look like they haven't been washed in months
Yeah I don't think SBF (not SBS - don't taint their good name!) have a preparation department, they really do have some scruffy bikes for sale.
@@dstev55 thanks. ive corrected. no complaints about SBS so far, only been to the MK branch though Harlow may be closer for me from Cambridge, if i can find it
Sounds like she needs a sumo, Husky 701SM/KTM 690 SMCR maybe?
The issue with making bikes for the midgets is they are cramped for normal people and impossible for people 6ft plus
It’s seems like what can we suggest other the brilliant and obvious Tracer 9 that woman likes to ride with a grin from ear to ear trouble is it would likely be the answer for most episodes
Learning to use revs will help with stability and engine breaking. Just a suggestion.