2021 BMW X5 45e review // Is a plug-in worth it?
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This is a Motormouth couple car review of the BMW X5 45e plug-in hybrid. The X5 45e comes with a 3L turbocharged inline 6 with an 8 speed automatic transmission combined with an electric motor.This BMW X5 45e has 389 Horsepower. 443 lb-ft of torque. 45 km of EV Range. Its range is competitive compared to its competition like the Volvo XC90 T8 with 30km of EV range, the Porsche Cayenne E-Hybrid with 48km, Range Rover Sport PHEV with 51km of range and the Audi Q5e which is smaller but another PHEV option gets about 30km of range which is around the same as the BMW X3 30e. None of these luxury brands get the same EV range as the Toyota RAV4 Prime with 68km of range. The BMW X5e comes with loads of standard features like a 12.3-inch touchscreen with BMW’s iDrive, 12.3-inch digital driver display, Apple Carplay and Android Auto, heated front Vernasca leather sport seats, driver seat memory, heated steering wheel, a leatherette dashboard, ambient lighting and a panoramic sunroof. Our test model includes, the premium enhanced package for $9,000 CAD, which has a wireless charger, comfort seats, head-up display, Harman Kardon sound system and parking assist. It also has the merino leather interior; which is beautiful leather for $1,900 and the glass application for $850, it has the glass console shifter. I highly recommend the comfort seats for long drives; it makes spending time in this SUV very comfortable. The BMW X5 45e earns a combined city/highway rating of 4.7L/100km, 50 MPG. With the battery depleted it gets a combined city/highway rating of 11.5L/100km, 20 MPG. It has worse fuel economy than the BMW M40i at 10.4L/100km and 23 MPG combined city/highway. Unfortunately, when the X5 45e runs out of pure electric range, the fuel economy is worse than the regular X5 with the same in-line 6-cylinder engine.
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I've owned my X5 45e for a couple months now, and I've been extremely impressed with it. I mainly work from home, so most of my daily driving involves driving around the city of Portland. I charge the vehicle every night, and in general, the battery charge covers most of my daily driving. Leaving it in hybrid mode and driving around town, this car uses almost NO fuel at all, yet is quite powerful and quick in any driving situation. I've only filled the fuel tank twice in two months, which frankly blows my mind. I have noticed that on the highway fuel usage a different matter, as the car seems to prioritize the gasoline engine while remaining very powerful with great passing ability. It's also worth noting that the electric motor and gasoline engine integrate seamlessly. The bottom line is that the X5 45e is an outstanding option if most of your driving is done in the city, with highway driving mainly reserved for weekend trips. If you have long highway commutes to work, the X5 40i probably makes more sense, as it gets slightly better mileage on the highway due to reduced weight, and costs less. Here in the States the 45e is eligible for a $7500 federal tax credit, pretty much wiping out the cost difference between the two models, but in Canada the extra cost might be a consideration. Just my two cents after owning the car for a bit.
I am living in Canada and very satisfied with my 45e. Max on one charge I am driving 50km!!! More than enough for me and charge every day. My gas tank still full from the dealership which was fueled 3 month ago.
I’m thinking about getting one, and the review just made me confused. Having read your comment, I realize that Motormouth just does not like Hybrids simply because it does not cater to the way they use a car. Thanks for balancing out their arguments.
We have a CT6 2.0E plug-in that gets 40 miles on battery and +35 mpg in hybrid mode. It easily covers the commute and shopping/errands in the evening. I also can charge at work.
Did you buy it then? I have had 2 BMW leases so far. Currently the 530e i will turn in soon. Also work from home n rarely do long commutes n even then its los angeles. The smaller 15 miles in the 5 has even been awesome. Hesitant to buy a brand new bmw but would love to know what made you purchase, if you got any price off msrp. I too would love to use the $7500 off plus bmw is giving me $3000 rebate due to issues with my 5 series. In cali we get $1500 rebate as well n BMW car club has 1k rebate... that's like 13k off which is very very tempting. If i could get much off msrp n other loyalty rebates ID be stoked. Would love to know your experience, what you put down, etc if you're willing to share.
@@jissanhuq3792 that is a good deal!
I don’t agree with many things said during the review. You misunderstood the use of a PHEV which is to make the transition easier from pure ICE to full EV. People are not ready to spend close to $100k for a Tesla than can’t have 400km of range on an highway. This BMW can with its petrol engine. In Europe, we really lack chargers (don’t work, far from highways…) and going the EV way is not conceivable if you wanna cross a country like France or Germany. Also and very importantly, some countries (again, mostly European) are banning diesel and petrol gradually more with bans in cities, HUGE taxes for companies and individuals… In Belgium, the X5 45e is 100% tax deductible while the 30d is 50%… So yeah, PHEV closes the gap and is the right option for many people.
Great points. I really appreciated seeing a comment where the first sentence was, “I don’t agree with many things said during the review.” My sentiments exactly.
@@tjohnson1045 true; same applies for the Netherlands
Have my X5 since 4 months now, and am getting consistently a range of 75 km when driving electric. And sure, I’m plugging it in every night. So, >80% of our daily trips can be done electrically. Ideal solution for us!
I own the 45e and absolutely love it. The air suspension drives great, it is actually faster than the 40i when you read 0-60 mph reviews (BMW underplays its speed), the interior is incredibly comfortable, and plugging it in is absolutely no big deal. I don’t know what he is whining about. Add the $7500 rebate and this is the CHEAPEST X5 that can be purchased. After 8 months I am averaging 78 mpg, so I am vey pleased. If I was to pick anything I would have liked improved, it would have been nice if it charged faster since a level 2 charger can provide about 7 kW and the X5 45e charges at a rate of 3.7 kW. But overall it is the nicest car I have ever owned.
You’re getting 78mpg combined? That’s great mpg!
@@Remi-xp6vx yeah, well my range on the vehicle is 30-40 miles on a charge, and on a daily basis I rarely drive over that the only distance, so in theory, I should be able to get infinite gas mileage. However, I have taken a few longer trips and does cause the internal combustion engine to kick in and hurts gas mileage. With a depleted battery and conservative (65-70 mph) driving I was getting 28 mpg from Binghamton to Long Island. Cold weather will certainly lower that figure a bit, maybe to 25-26. However, drive like Mario Andretti and it is game over for the gas mileage, I am sure it would drop into the high teens at best. Check out the reviews online and most people are finding what I have seen. If they are getting lower gas mileage it is likely they are driving her harder that I do.
We own one…can afford the gas, but are happy to not have to pay for it. Because of the $7500 tax rebate it cost us less than non hybrid model. It is easy to plug in the garage every evening and are steady getting 40 electric miles. There is no range anxiety when we go on trips and at this point 50% of the total 6000 miles on it have been all electric…can’t recall last trip to gas station. As an owner, not a reviewer…it’s a great vehicle and we have owned over 40 over the years.
This review is for the car in Canada and reasonable. For US owners, it misses the mark badly. Canada +$6,000, US -$3,800 vs 40i. No brainer to go with the 45e in the US. I’ve owned my 45e for just over 3 months and have 1,428 total miles; 1,256 of those miles were electric. Plugging in at the end of a drive is no more tedious than opening and closing the car doors. What a fuss they made over it. Sheesh.
@@tncn88 You get it when/if you get a fed income tax refund. I finally got mine a few weeks ago for a car I bought last July!
I will have to disagree with these reviewers as I have this car and it is rad! Does everything and is so versatile. It’s a hidden gem of a car
I think BMW nailed it with this gen X5. The inline 6 is amazing and the interior is so nice.
The B58 is one of the best engine you can buy, and the ZF transmission is awesome.
LOL, review after review on the plug-in hybrids and you still do not understand the purpose of them. The EV pushes the range of the fuel tank and not necessarily to just run on battery. The X3 30e can get almost 530 miles to one tank of gas and nearly 50mpg combined. That is what it is for. If you want pure EV range, get a full EV.
This is two clowns absolutely don't understand what is means PHEV and especially BMW x5 45e - the best selling luxury SUV on a market RIGHT NOW.
Yea I was just thinking why are they so focused on the EV range. It’s a hybrid right lol? And when combined I’ve read 50 mpg. They remind me of my neighbors who annoy the crap out of every morning
I just have my X5 45e for a week and I love it. I do easily 70-90km electric every day. The technology is great. Smooth switch from combustion to electric and lots of power when needed.
I have owned my x5 45e since December. 6700 miles at 56mpg. My previous x5 got around 26. The all electric range is 35 plus in the summer and 30 in the winter. Received a $7500 federal tax credit and a $4000 Colorado tax credit... the Colorado credit was applied at the point of purchase. So I was into the car for less than $60k. (Yes I understand that in Canada these credits don't apply.) There is a slight learning curve to figuring out how to get the most out of the electric range. Car reports that more than half of my range has been all electric. As most hybrids, it does charge while driving, hill decent, braking. Or you can simply choose to charge using the gas engine, which will reduce gas mileage. Terrific acceleration for a car of this size and weight. Charges in 4 hours at 200v. Plugging it in is not a hassle. Forgetting to plug it in has probably cost me a few mpg. This is a well produced review but it misses the point of this car. This is a very well appointed car with lots of room and great performance and despite all that, is very fuel efficient as a daily driver with occasional longer trips thrown in. And contrary to what some say, there are definitely BMW owners who appreciate great gas mileage. Or I would not have purchased the car.
Kidding me? 56 mpg? How?
@@marco-mc2hy Car tracks the mileage data... since purchased in late 12/20 10068 total miles 6402 in electric mode. Most driving local around 30 miles daily in Electric mode only, road trips in hybrid mode. Car has a default option to start and run by default in Electric. So my MPG thus far is 58.2 for the total time of ownership. I am surprised as well. I am not a slow driver and do not baby it to get higher mileage.
@@michaelrath679 thanks for your response! So seems like you recharge it daily? Does that annoy you? and what is the mpg on hybrid mode? I am asking because I drive highway for like 80 miles, would it be good?
@@marco-mc2hy I bought a 220V charger and plug it in at night in my garage it takes about 5 hours to charge back to 30-35 miles. It doesn't bother me but sometimes I forget. If you don't have a place to park with charger at night I don't think it would make as much sense. It gets better electric range when warm... if you drive 80 miles every day then about 30 will be electric the rest gas so you should get somewhere in the mid 40mpg I would think. I can't tell you what MPG it gets in hybrid it doesn't track that but when you want to accelerate hard or climb hills the extra power is there. I wish the battery was bigger or it charged faster, but when compared to the other X5 it is definitely better on gas and very fast for an SUV just over 5 seconds 0-60. Once you run out of electric you will get mid 20mpg. So better for shorter trips than cross country.
@@michaelrath679 thank you so much! Very informative reply!
Wow! This is an amazing vehicle with the plug-in hybrid...great video Andrea and Zack
Thank you so much!
You both are awesome, Impressive review, amazing SUV, thank you!
I am a new 2021 X5 45e owner, and couldn't be happier. And the price they mention, for US buyers, has to be viewed in connection with the $7.500 federal tax credit. If most of your driving is around town and you have easy charging, it's the right car for you.
As a new X5 45e owner also in Vancouver, I don't agree with a lot of points in your review. Compared to 40i, the vehicle is not really more expensive and when the battery runs out, it consuming not much more gasoline either. My fuel gauge is still at 7/8 after two weeks of ownership. Most importantly, what's wrong with pluging it in all the time? Unless if you are living in a condo, it only takes 5 secs anyways. And the weight? Sorry I don't feel it at all especially with the air suspension. I appreciate your opinions but I am afraid you guys are overall negatively biased on PHEVs.
Yeah they are biased and misinformed when it comes to PHEV.
The range they are getting is nowhere near the actual range from the owners too.
I cringed when they mentioned extension cord. You aren’t supposed to use that for charging PHEV nor EV. They don’t do much research.
Wether you like it long or wide 🤣🤣 Andrea knew
Great review - Thanks
We tow a large trailer with our x5 and with the towing package it is effortless and comfortable. Not something you could do (very far) with a fully electric vehicle. TFL truck achieved 85 miles with the cybertruck.
I love this couple. Love You guys car review videos ❤
A reason to get a PHEV is you can put more batteries in more cars than a BEV. Overall it will be better for the environment in short to mid term. At around a 50-100km range that would be 50-97% of all your trips. Almost removing at the 100km mark of any fossil fuel for the majority of trips.
There are an overwhelming amount of comments from people here who disagree with you. I just pulled the trigger on a fully loaded 45e and could not find another vehicle that could compete with this in terms of quality, performance and practicality. The Volvo is really outdated at this point. BMW hit a home run with this one. I'll say that while I like their current gen, I'm not a fan of the upcoming interior update which has the large iPad on the dash. This is why I specifically wanted the 2022.
I am looking for the mix. How is the cabin noise and comfort in the car vs. other competitors mentioned in the video? What is the smoothest ride with the quietest cabin? I commute less than 15 miles round trip each day and if i'm not commuting I am taking long road trips 200+ miles. PHEV's make sense to me for that aspect.
I have X5 45 e 2023 and I saved a lot of money going to work and back ( no gas needed), so for city is great and when we traveling outside we using gas, so if we choose full battery car what you suggested then you need to plug in and wait who knows how long to charge and that’s reason why we don’t want full battery BMW, however this car is great and gas a lot of nice features… also, need to mention we will have 7.500 tax refund because we purchased hybrid.
Thank you for this review! I’m really looking for a phev suv for the future and this is the one of the choices that I have. I wonder how much better phev ranges will be in 3-5 years. I hope it gets better! (:
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
I have owned mine since December and have filled it three times. I strongly disagree with the negative review, check out some others before making a decision. People really like these cars, they are getting hard to find on a lot, they don’t last long.
I just bought this! I was hoping you would do a review! I did a trip from the top of California to Morris bay almost 630 miles and omg it did it! I think that the ev edition is amazing. And we can still 💨 people at lights ! And the air ride omg, anddddd we off road this thing and it goes sooooo high up. Just a great car, we almost bought another q7, we just really have seen so much mileage out of it. But you are correct, you must plug it in. I will say , if you learn how to drive it over time you figure out how to get the range back up while driving on long trips without plug-in.
We use plug share app to find places to plug-in and it drives my wife crazy as I'm always trying to drive on battery and charge when stopped for any length of time in our 2018 Cadillac CT6 2.0E plug-in.
What’s the big deal with plugging it in everyday?! I manage to do it and haven’t found that my personal productivity has suffered or that I no longer have the physical energy to do other things.
laziness!!!
Fear of the unknown. They will eventually succumb to EV charging so they should just accept it.
@@normt430 I mean, have they never charged a cellphone? There’s really no difference.
Exactly. The commitment is not really that big of a deal.
Thanks for your honest opinion. I'm considering a 45e because I can get on in a short time where all other PHEV's are "NOT" because of chip shortage. Thinking it will be a year before I can get anyother. You've given me pause in my consideration. Thanks Again, Jeff
Can you tell me if the inner headlights are dummy? or do they really work? I live in Costa Rica and the dealer is telling me they are dummy lights, and I couldn't make them work. I appreciate the input. Thank you.
I think the X5 45E is by far the better option compared to the standard. 2022 price is dropping $2000 dollars plus it gets better interest rates and qualifies for a $7500 tax credit if you finance. All of that is before saving on fuel I think the more you look into the PHEV figures for this vehicle in particular the more value comes out of it.
Agreed, 30 Miles/48 KM is more than the avg commute distance a person drives to work. Plug it in once you get home, you're not spending any $ on gas during the workweek. This review from the video seemed highly opinionated and didn't provide facts/stats, bad information IMO.
100% agree with you. This is a better alternative than going full EV (and I have a model x) but for most people, a hybrid style plug in is a sweet alternative
I would like to see you added to test how good or not the dynamic cruise control keeping center lane in your future video, pretty sure not all car performs same
Would you recommend this car for daily trips of about 18-25km (total for a daily 2 way trip) and often weekend trips of about 100km going to town "X" and 100km for going back next day?
Andrea = Sunshine .. 🤣🤣🤣 I love it! 🤣
Hey guys. I love your reviews and your chemistry is amazing.
I just pulled the trigger on a 2021 X5 m sport 40i with a third row. I’m really excited about it and I appreciate Zacks honesty.
Good choice
Too bad x45e does not come with a 3rd row. Huge dissappontment.
PHEVs are a good intermediate step from gas to full electric. It allows you to wait for charging infrastructure (especially here in Canada for longer trips) to catch up as well as for more and better full EVs in the future. I have a PHEV and when charging over night when electricity is cheapest I'm getting 90 km of range for $1.11 CAN.. That's about 1.2 cents a kilometer operating cost. Honda Clarity...one of Zack's favorite cars. :)
Hybrids and PHEV may make sense on vehicles like the Honda Clarity and Toyota Prius thanks to their CVT type transmission being driven by both the electric motor and a small low-torque ICE. The BMW approach here is using a conventional torque converter and planetary gears 8sp ZF transmission, which seems to be turning in worse gas mileage than comparable pure ICE models after the few dozen miles of battery charge is exhausted. That makes the it a liability on trips longer than the daily short commute; it is good though for people having only 10 miles of less each way commute or have a habit of running the gas tank dry.
In California you get to drive in the carpool lane which is a HUGE benefit. Love your reviews!
Thank you so much! Glad you liked the review. Huge benefit to drive in the carpool lane.
@@andreaspencer9813 almost makes it worth it
@@ryanclark9415 Yes, especially if you are always in bumper to bumper traffic on the highway during rush hour.
@@andreaspencer9813 it is a good idea to get more consumers into an electric vehicle or Phev etc.
@@andreaspencer9813 do you like the cockpit design? How did you feel it when you drove? Smooth? It's a really nice vehicle :)
My X3 30e does 45kms with Maxedrive and Ecopro modes selected
Some of the reviews completely miss the point. The Motormouth people from Canada May not be aware of the $7,500 tax rebate for the X5 45e here in the US which alone make it cheaper than the gasoline only version!
When you own this car you should have a wall box for 240V charging and always plug it in when it is sitting in the garage.
Most of my trips are local enough to drive electric only, filling gas about every six weeks.
There are other side benefits over the gasoline only version. You can cool down or heat the car from the smart phone since the AC is electric and runs on the battery. You don’t need to idle an engine to be comfortable in the car waiting for someone.
I don't know why you kids don't have a million subscribers by now. You're both honest and hilarious all in one neat package.
Maybe one day! Thanks for the kind words
Thank you so much, we are definitely working on it. :)
Zack you're the man keep up the great work!
So.. gas is free in Canada? The 45 is also more powerful than the 3l model.
Thanks for the review. I’m researching this car for my next purchase but I can’t help but think that your review is not painting the right picture. I know you mentioned a few times that when the battery runs out, the fuel economy is worse. While true, let’s say I’m driving 100km today, and 50km is on battery only, then wouldn’t I use only half the fuel of a non- hybrid version? Wouldn’t the battery be used in the slower sections, and fuel be used on the faster sections - which means I don’t use fuel in the most fuel inefficient part of the journey? Even the part where you talked about going across the city in start stop traffic - surely you used zero fuel. So I guess your review while very nicely made, is not really catered to people who could get the most out of PHEV. My commute is 50km per day, so I expect zero fuel costs, but every other weekend I do a 300km round trip to my weekend home (some fuel cost). For me, your review is kinda missing what I’m looking for.
Great, perfect for you, get one
See if they take a PHEV for a day to find out. You'll be hooked like we are.
I always am a sucker for sport packages or night packages that add the black accents to BMWs or Mercedes vehicles. I wouldn’t get one without such a package. This vehicle looks great :)
I like it too!
Had a 2016 X5 45e. Didn’t get warm in the winter. Bad news in the cold. The 2.0L turbo was thirsty when power was all gone. Fun car, but the inline 6 would have been a better choice.
X5 45e didnt exist in 2016?
You had the 40e with the sad 4 cylinder
Real life driving with my 2020 model X5 45e:
Between 1st of January 2021 and 1st of April 2021, I drove 2707 km using 41,87 litres of fuel. This is 1,5 litre/100km
Between 1st of April 2021 and 1st of July 2021, I drove 2065 km using 18,22 litres of fuel. This is 0,9 litre/100km.
I drove a trip of 231 km with fuel consumption 5 litre/100km. The car is only charged at home in the garage. I tested a loaner X5 3,0d 20 model. For any distance under 300km, the hybrid uses less fuel. 80% of my driving are within battery range, so the fuel consumption with drained battery is irrelevant on a yearly average. Compared to full EV SUVs: This never has to wait for fast charging at longer trips! In my country the 45e cost much less than the diesel og petrol versions.
You're not getting it. I've done 50% of all my miles on pure EV, meaning i'm getting almost 60mpg combined across ALL MY DRIVING! Show me another SUV that can do 60mpg ... please?
Beautiful interior but not crazy about PHEV. Thanks for a few good laughs including someone took a picture of you guys and I believe someone might know you drove through same street. Cheers! 👍🏻👊🏻☕️
@@andreaspencer9813 You are very welcome Andrea! As always I enjoy watching your videos. 👍🏻👊🏻☕️
You guys are terrific. The rapport is genuine. The information is great, but I'm missing the promised fuel consumption numbers. Did I blink and miss it?
It's there, watch again
Thank you so much, glad you like our content. The fuel economy numbers are always in our vital stats at the end with pricing.
I was just checking this car in BMW's website and got your notification!!!!! How cool is that!!!
Love it!
There is a $7500 federal tax credit on this in the US. I know you are in Canada but since you show US prices, it is relevant. So the price is basically the same as the base X5. Does it change the equation?
I think it's a little harsh to say this review is 'bad', 'stupid' or is filled with misinformation. Most of the specs they share are accurate. The guy says early and often that he's not a fan of PHEV, so anyone watching his review of a PHEV should probably take the review with a grain of salt. Similar to if I, not liking coconut, was to give a review of an almond joy. I have had a 2023 x5 45e for a couple months now and we love it. We are in a mid-size town (150k pop), with not much in the way of rush hour traffic, and a work commute of less than 10 miles. Whether commute, or putzing around town for the day, we rarely use up the full battery (we filled the gas tank a month ago and it's still at 99% full). We did have a level 2 charger installed (not a bad thing to have), and plugging in nightly is really a very easy task, only taking a few seconds to do. I do disagree with the suggestion to just go all electric, as I do not think the infrastructure is there currently, and likely won't be there for maybe another decade. To me, it's all about use-case. If your driving habits suggest you'd frequently deplete the ~30 miles of battery, and use mostly gas engine, then yes, the 40i is probably a better fit. If you're like me, and would use 90+% electric around town, with the occasional road trip, then PHEV, and the 45e in particular, is a nice option until we reach the point where stopping for a charge is as quick, easy and reliable as stopping for gas. At approx 2,500 miles, and having made more road trips than normal in that time, we're about 50/50 for gas/electric, and are at 43mpg over that time. I expect that to be 50+mpg over time, and under our normal driving habits.
What a super duper vehicle
The X5 45e has a tank capacity of 18.2 gal and a 34 mile electric range. How is 50mpg calculated? does this mean the car can run 910 mile before a refill of the gas?
Thanks for this review - will ensure I will not click on your videos in the future.
Are there EV tax credits in Canada like the US? The price difference is generally offset by federal credit
Yes we do have some Federal tax breaks and provinces offer different tax breaks as well.
What about #5 The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe?
great video kids!
Thanks so much!
Why is it a big deal to charge it up when you come home for the day?
Do you charge your phone every day? I see this as no different.
@@kevinmilne2380 -- Yes. But I don't even drive my car every day. Even if I did I don't think I'd mind plugging it in. Seems like an easy routine to get into. But perhaps it is a pain in the butt.
Because if parking outside a garage, the cords would have to be run from the house to the car then packed up before driving the car away; that's a lot of walking trips from the car to the house then back to the car then back to the house every time the car is used. I wouldn't recommend parking any car with that big of a battery inside a garage, due to fire risk, let alone letting it charge while inside a garage.
@@jims8828 -- For you that may be a consideration, but anyone spending this much money on a new BMW will certainly have the means to park it inside -- and I doubt anyone is going to spend $70+K on a new vehicle is banking that it will go up in flames. Furthermore, I hate to say it, but BMWs don't hold up very well spending their lives outside -- which is lame. But the plastics and rubber start disintegrating in the high heat and UV rays. However, if leasing, it will make it 3 years OK outside.
@@TrixAreForRabbits I have a garage, and both my previous car and my current car (3yo) were in the $60k range when new, so with the inflation the last 3-6 years especially the 25% car price increase this year they both would be in the 70k+ range. There is no way I would park any full electric or PHEV inside my garage, especially while charging. There is in fact a battery recall / warning on the previous generation (1-4 years old) PHEV due to fire risk while charging. I have no idea what you are talking about regarding BMW interior trim; my current ICE BMW with the B58 engine is doing great. IMHO the only sensible justification for PHEV in this price range is for people with congested commute wanting to use the HOV lane. Then keep the car outside the garage when charging or never charging at all: pay the 3mpg penalty as tag fee for the HOV lane access!
Ordered a 2022 45e, it will be a different experience compared to my SQ7. We drive city majority of time, long trips are rare...
How’s it been going for you 1 year down the road? Your two cars are the two on my shortlist and for very different reasons. Newly a family of 4 with need for more room, we’re an Audi family with a Q5 and SQ5, so would love the SQ7, but I commute 40 miles round trip 3 days a week so that V8 will be thirsty needing weekly or more fill ups. At 50 MPG vs maybe 15 in the SQ7, the 45e is VERY tempting, would love to hear your owner thoughts and if you plan to keep both.
Do I wish that the electric range was further? Of course. I have no idea why they aren't giving us atleast the same as the i3. Having half electric range and half gas in an X5 would be awesome. There is definitely some misinformation in this video, such as the need to add a level 2 charger/220 outlet. You can plug into a 110 outlet at home, it just takes longer to charge. As others have said, the tax credit makes it worth it to try and be more environmentally conscious. It isn't all about saving money, although that's nice too. The things I didn't like about the 45e, is that it doesn't have the true speed and zip of a full electric while it's running on electric. That was a bummer. Also, no one seems to mentions if the BMW app works on this vehicle and if you can use active climate control. Both are very handy, especially in extreme temps and so that would be good to know. Lastly, only the X5 and Cayenne have major towing power and AWD, which makes it super handy and versatile too.
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A classy PHEV SUV It's worth it if any one who likes & can afford it Good review
Thank you!
You two really make up a wonderful team. Love your reviews, opinions and perspectives. Would you like to do tech review sometime later down the road? I’m struggling with some stuff like the next phone (android or iPhone. Currently an iPhone users); a pair of wireless or earphone (damn! There’s crazy lot of options viz., AirPods Pro, Sennheiser, Marshall, Sony, Bose, B&O, Jabra-ca-dabra 😂…phew!!). What’s in your bag?
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GLE 450e Plug in hybrid or BMW x5 Plug in hybrid
I took delivery of my 2021 45e a month and a half ago, based in California which qualifies me for the $7500 Federal Tax rebate plus the California Clean Air vehicle credit for $1500 makes the 45e a no brainer compared to the 40i. Other car is a Tesla Model 3 so I was looking for something more comfortable and luxury which the 45e nails it. Well worth it in my situation.
Definitely worth it!
Not anymore
We have a Tesla Model Y and a 2021 x5 45e. Use an adapter to charge the BMW on our Tesla wall charger which is way faster and more convenient than standard 110 charger that comes with the car. Consistently get 40 miles all electric range. Rarely use gas except on a trip when I don't mind the extra cost considering the extra convenience of not having to charge. You can take the Tesla on a long trip but it is not ideal. (We've been on two trips from PA to TX in the Model Y and speak from experience.) BMW is way more luxurious but has way less room. Had to add a rooftop carrier for a trip to the beach with 4 people and luggage. Fit and finish on the BMW also is much better than on the Tesla. However, the character of the acceleration on the Tesla, a quiet forceful swoosh, is unlike any other car and can be addictive. Both very nice cars but definitely different...don't try to compete on the same measures.
Hubby and I bought a 2022 x3 but are now eyeing the x5 hybrid and are contemplating whether or not to upgrade soon. We work in LA and commute a lot around the city but also take road trips to like…Big Sur or Yosemite…..would it be a good choice to upgrade? Oh and let’s not forget the gas prices here (California) are obscene!!!
@@chinchillin6280 Make sure you compare interior/cargo space between the two models. The 45e looses a lot of space to the battery compared to the ICE X5 (40i). Otherwise, it is a very nice car and around town I get by on all electric.
I’m so conflicted now we’re looking to trade the BMW X3 to the HYUNDAI Santa Fe hybrid…..it’s fancier luxury features whereas bmw they aren’t generous with standard features
I tented this car on my trip from Seattle to Kelowna, Canada. It is an awesome GT car! So comfortable and powerful had additional older family members in the back seat for 5 hours , and they couldn’t shut up about how comfortable it feels and how not tired they are from the long drive! It rides like butter in comfort mode. Want sporty? Tighten the seat bolsters and change to sport mode- you get a different car! I’m highly impressed.
Loved this episode. Thanks for keeping it PHEV real. :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
@@andreaspencer9813 very good review :) I think this vehicle is really good looking.. The interior design is outstanding & the leather/trim is what stands out the most.... Really good review:)
Is that an autonomous vehicle?
Wow; Harry's Garage loved the PHEV X5. Good to get different takes on it though.
Motormouth is all about real world reviews. I am sure it is a fun car the first few days of ownership but would get old real fast. I love the X5, just not the PHEV.
@@SuperEtab I own one and actually it’s been pretty great. Plug-in hybrids are cars you have to figure out how to get the most out of the battery, we have pulled 630 miles out of a tank and battery combined many times. Anddddd the air suspension goes up so high and we off road it 10.1 inches of ground clearance we also opted for the high side wall 18 inch wheels for that point. 2 months in we will see what it’s like 6 months later.
@@SuperEtab Harry has had the car for some months.
@@SuperEtab TBH it is clear you haven't watched Harry's review. He had the car for at least 11 months. I am not saying his use case matches all. But I don't feel Zack explained the negative aspects of the PHEV drive train very well.
But by now you must know that the BMW IX3 is available to order and it is probably already in traffic as well
This channel is fantastic! love the content and the information is spot-on. Thank you
Wow, thank you so much!
Not spot on.these guys have no clue how a PHEV works. Irresponsible
Oh! And I forgot to mention that I love the way Jack dress himself up. Simple, plain and elegant. I’m following him 🙂
@@iamalwayswrite : I guess, English is a funny language 😁
It's funny that you're making the "commitment" of plugging the car in at the end of the day is such a big deal... What is the point of buying any PHEV if you're not going to plug it in?
They missed the point. This vehicle is built for urban and inner suburban commuting. I love it. There are much better technical reviews of this vehicle on TH-cam.
I completely agree. This review was my first of this couple. It will also be my last. R 45E is just as fantastic as we hoped it would be. It is a nice step up in pure electric range compared to our 2021 Lincoln aviator PHEV. However, we are both professionals with 10 minute drives to work. Between both the aviator and X5 I cannot think of the last time we have had to go to the gas station. The X5 is a wonderful addition to our family. Please, please do not take this review as Gospel. It should not turn you away from strongly considering this wonderful vehicle.
Man, there’s a lot of misinformation in this video. You don’t need an electrician to install a charger at home. Really missing the point of the PHEV. I have an X5 40e and it’s a great city commuter and long distance hauler, without the need to stop and charge. The Model X is boring inside and the quality is not even close to the same as the X5.
The X5 45e 2021 takes me 80km on a charge easy!
Seems you are not showing/mentioning that clearly enough...
So, we have the Regular X5 and the PHe Cayenne.... While yes you do have to keep plugging in the Cayenne, here is where the Porsche Cayenne is maybe worth it.... Porsche uses the electric and gas motor to at the same time to give you FAST ride!!! The Cayenne PHe is FASTER 0-60 than the Cayenne S. And the Cayenne can recharge the battery faster in Sport+ mode.... So... think Porshe PHe has the winning formula.
Hey guys. You rrevews are the best in the internet but I am a bit disappointed by this one. I feel you are too much focused on the North American market but BMW is a global brand. In a lot of countries, particularly in Europe, CO2 based taxation is huge. Of course, Diesel cars have lower CO2 but Diesel bashing is high nowadays. So, if you want a performant gas car with lower taxes, the only solutions are hybrids and PHEV's . For instance, if this BMW is 6000 € more expensive than the equivalent gas, you save almost 10 000 € of taxes in France ! And this is only for private customers. For fleet, economy is even much higher. Cheers from stormy hot Champagne ( 32° C).
Good information, not up to date on the tax situation in Europe so this helps.
Thank you so much for sharing, we really appreciate it. I don't know a lot about the tax breaks in Europe, but it certainly makes sense to buy an electrified vehicle.
Either go full electric or could get a hybrid that you don't have to plug in or just to the gas one, that's my opinion.
Love you two - your videos are very informative. I have to differ with you on one thing though regarding plug in hybrids. I recently bought (a year ago) my second Volvo xc 90. My newest is the T8 plug in hybrid. I bought it (as I am sure a BMW plug in SUV owner would) based on no electric only range issues, wanting an elegant and luxurious ride, great performance plus great MPG for a heavy SUV. Plugging in my SUV in the evening is no big deal considering the pluses - a very quiet & luxurious ride in electric only mode, 400 HP and based on my short trips daily (20 miles) I get 1200 - 1400 miles to a tank of gas!!! And unlike some folks I know who have all electric vehicles I am not in a panic looking for charge stations on a long trip.
If you add in a $7500 tax credit and then in Texas an additional $2500 then there is absolutely no reason to buy the non-hybrid.
Andreah is sooo sweeeeettt...
I thought the Engine would charge the battery while driving when running low on battery power.
Yes; the engine can charge the battery as well.
Consequently you get poor gas mileage (while letting the ICE both charging the battery and driving the car)
@@jims8828 -- fur sure.
A pur Cargo space for this big car!
Hope you guys get your hands on the new civic soon!
Very soon!
@@andreaspencer9813 have you guys done a review on the Ford Fusion Platinum edition? Those are fun to drive..well the 2021s :)
@@IvanHernandez-hd2si No we haven't but maybe it will arrive in the press fleet for us. :)
@@andreaspencer9813 when you do please try & do a review on it :) it's an incredible vehicle for being full size mid entry car 😊
@@andreaspencer9813 you should also try mivergaentuboca when you get a chance :) or have you not yet 👍
The e, is cheaper in Norway. The regular X5 is MUCH more expensive.
How about when giving fuel consumption numbers for PHEV give KW/100 km and litres per 100 km when out of electrons. A combined number does not make much sense to me and mpg equivalent is just a made up marketing ploy.
'This is a pricey one", it's a BMW! You named two options more pricey and never mentioned the 7500 tax credit in the US. Lazy review.
I think, people who can afford X5 don't really care about gas mileage.
Fair enough, but people who can afford an X5 can also afford to care about the environment. Which I think more and more people are. I know I am!
@@HariHullur Speaking about environment, let's consider impact of producing that giant lithium-ion battery and utilizing it. Also, where is that electricity for plug-in's coming from? In the US, most of it comes from burning coal and other fossil fuels. No pollution?
@@oleglishchenko4922 1 coal plant still produces less carbon than millions of IC engines combined...due to scale efficiencies.
the PHEV is ideal for long trips. i have a tesla and your whole road trip revolves around charging the thing..
The range depends on how hard you drive them, no one drives an X5 like a Pacifica.
When the battery fully deplated and it is in "hybrid" mode I get close to 30mpg for highway. Also I get average of 40 miles (Maximum 50Miles) per full charge. Finally, do not forger $7500 tax credit!
Never been drawn to a hybrid vehicle. I appreciate gas or electric, not a mix of the two.
Not true, difference with all options is 1k, not 6. And in us you can get 7500 tax return on 45e. So it’s minus 6:)
I agree without any gov incentives, it doesn’t make sense. Nice review.
Thanks for watching!
Sorry Zack but you are wrong. I have a phev & my 740Le gets 5.8l per 100km vs 13 l per 100km. I plug it in overnight & where I work I get 30km at both stops & in the city I never use gas.
That's great but the range is still too low.
@@Motormouth... I agree with you. When I run on petrol my car averages 550km per tank using my i4 motor. An option in the future might be to swap out the battery with a 40-60kwh one using one of those ev conversion places until it’s entirely electric. At least it’s got the best drive, fit & finish & look.
Thank you for the honest take on phevs. These vehicles are more of a life style choice than efficiency. Most don’t understand that you are adding another complicated drive system and doubling the maintenance with the added weight.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it.
The PHEV allows EV operation for majority of daily driving. The gas engine is only needed for colder days for heat or for longer drives. Plus no stinky cold engine in the morning and smooth, responsive electric torque.
I normally like your reviews but you either didn’t do your research or let your bias get in the way, clearly out of touch with owners and viewers like me who have short listed this car. Owners RAVE about this car in every comment section and some great auto journalist have done the same.
There are no pure electrics with this quality of interior+ride quality+no range anxiety+car play + physical buttons at this price range, especially now picking up a used one with 30k and the heavy depreciation out of the way. Who wouldn’t want one of the top luxury SUV’s that gets 50 MPG. Plus for people like me, I’m not ready to give up the soul from hearing a twin scroll B58 inline 6 fire up and wind it out to 7k rpm out of a corner, but I’ve spent enough on gas having a performance SUV daily.😎 I figure I’ll have my performance sedan for weekend cruises but my daily commuter needs to be a hybrid
The Porsche Cayenne is a great SUV but it only has 20 miles of EV only range and it eats it up FAST! If this thing will go the ~30 miles they say, then it is plenty for some around town driving and if you have a level 2 charger, 4 hours between drives should charge it plenty. Drop the kids off at school, work and charge pick them up, no gas needed! We have a RAV4 Prime, and for some reason it gets ~50 miles of EV range but it is plenty and is a great car, THAT WE FILL UP EVERY THREE WEEKS! I'm sure this car can go at least two weeks without needing gas and at these current prices, that's great..AND you have the gas motor if you need it!
Zack I see you really changed your opinion on PHEV’s. You used to say it’s better to go PHEV than going electric but now you’re saying the opposite. Interesting
Actually, I'm all about hybrids because the extra cost to buy one is so much less than a plug-in. The cost is the biggest issue for me for this and full electric. I say buy a hybrid until full electric prices come down.
After having the Audi E-tron for a year I can confirm that no Electric vehicle currently on the market will go give the full capability of range advertised. Absolutely not!! Range diminished by 5% just by turning the AC on…let alone driving around town with full AC on (I live in Arizona)…turn on the ventilated seats, seat massage or other features and range took a gigantic dip! For perspective, I could leave the house on full battery and come back home with 10% battery life after an all day outing. WE NEED MORE CHARGING STATIONS!!
I have said it before, but it needs to be said again, you two are the best. Even on a vehicle I am not interested in, I enjoyed this review right to the end! And you actually tell truth, that you don't find on other review channels, especially the big ones. True journalists at work here, and no fake news
Wow, thank you very much, that means a lot to us!!
Thank you for the kinds words, we really appreciate it.