About 15 years ago my son was violently attacked and robbed on a subway train in Philly. The passengers on the train did absolutely nothing, they didn’t even push the emergency button in the car. The police had me watched the video surveillance and it hurt me to the core as I watched people get the train and my son crawling off the train looking for help. What happened to human compassion.
My condolences I remember that story something similar happen to me,on broad street line,towards dauphin subway,they stop patrols back in the early 90's this world insane.🎉
WHY won't they identify the victim? They HAVE subway video of her and the suspect entering the subway and boarding the train. So even if they don't have her medical identity; they CAN show the public the video of her before the incident. Who knows, maybe someone will recognize her.
I suspect that the woman was black and they don't want to start a riot. Also, the democrats need black people support for the illegals, and they're afraid the black people"might" stop supporting them and their agendas if they find out the victim was black!
Almost 2 years ago I was attacked in NYC minutes away from my job by a homeless man and he assaulted me, chased me, and spit in my face. The police did nothing and the public did nothing. I had an assembly person assisting with me getting justice as the man was never arrested however, no charges was ever brought against him and all I was told that because he’s a homeless EDP he has to seek help. This world is not safe for women is all I can say is. I didn’t get justice until this man passed away outside of my job from a heart attack.
My experience is nowhere horrific as what this poor woman went through, but I got a glimpse of where society was heading 6 years ago. I was on crutches with a broken leg, in the middle of winter. No one offered up their seat for me, no one held the door open, etc. Everyone was engrossed in themselves, glued to their screens. Another time, my mother and I got caught up in quick sand near a riverbank. These 2 young men nearby just sat there relaxing as they watched us calling for help. I know I sound entitled and shouldn't expect anything from others, but if the tables were turned I would have done all I could to help them. I was raised to look out for others and have always done so. It's so obvious that our society is collapsing and if you're fortunate to have good family and friends, keep them close. We are going to need to build community if we are going to survive what's ahead...
Why should I?? You're a strong independent woman that don't need no man and can do anything to man can.. you want it equal rights well you're getting them stop crying about it man up!!
@nadineskye7050, You do not sound entitle, you needed help at that moment and you did what most of us would have done too under those circumstance. Thank God you came out of it.
@linlee8860 what should we offer up our seat?? You women are strong and independent and don't need no man.. you can do anything a man can this is what equal rights look like you wanted it quit crying about it..
@@luckylogger7594 I lived in the city for about 20 some years and I got out of there.. moved out to the country where I now own land and it's peaceful and quiet.. too much violence in the city and it's only gotten worse..
They did something: These parasites recorded the victim being burned to death, and the rest of them ignored her! And I'm wondering if this poor woman was black. Could that also be the reason why the police and everyone else didn't want to help? Then, it would be a hate crime. This is absolutely horrible!!
Correct me if I’m wrong yall but they are saying the woman was homeless. I feel like that is why they are not putting all the effort into identifying her. There is also a higher chance that no one is looking for her. Since they have cameras in the subway, shouldn’t they be looking at the camera to get an image of her? Poor woman!
I don't think you understand how homelessness works. If she was sleeping on the subway system in New York City, that means that she had absolutely no one.
It’s crazy. I’m from the New York City area was around during 911 with the twin towers everybody helped out then, but nobody helps out with the woman on fire
That's like comparing apples and orange's. No one is obligated to help anyone. No civilians ran into the twin towers to help, only Firemen. The police officer was the only one obligated, but didn't.
This is heartbreaking man. I just can’t imagine what that poor lady went through all that pain and people stood and recorded it. The police causally walks by doing nothing.💔🤬
Leslie I had to go into my bedroom to get my electric throw. This is the most horrific act I have ever heard about they showed a police officer walking by. And I saw the lady engulfed in a ball of fire!! Omg 😦
@ Leslie love there is no LOVE in THIS WORLD ANYMORE! Did you not see DENZEL WASHINGTON GOT BAPTISED! This is a big sign trust me. This is a step I want to make. It is horrible out here! Just get your LIFE IN ORDER! And CLING TO YOUR FAITH! 🙏🏿💫✨
She was in shock. When you are burning alive, you're not thinking straight. Also, I heard when someone burns their nerves get so badly damaged that "Standing in place." can happen.
80% of people are followers, 10% of people are observers, and 10% are leaders. The people filming are clearly observers who will never get involved. We can't be mad at them or blame them in a crisis.
I think they have the cctv subway photo and ran it through facial recognition software. I think they have identified her, but they are holding on to that info. I watched the actual video and I immediately thought it’s a black woman in her 20-30s. It was an all black group that held the prayer vigil at the station where it happened. They may be struggling to find her family, but I think the authorities are letting this calm down a bit before the info is given for fear of how the black community will react.
Same my spirit is telling me she is black. I was so bothered by this. I couldn't even pray I had to take my time and just vent to God because I felt so strongly about her. I don't know why but I hope she's at peace with him
Yes I thought so too by the way the police officer was so nonchalant walking back-and-forth and not helping her neither was the other people videotaping it. May the most high bring her justice😢😢
I'm glad I'd don't live there it's no way where I'm from 😢😢people sat there do nothing the men and women would 🤷 help her before it even got out control infact they attack him before he sat her on fire especially if they seen him nobody get that drunk 🥴 he knew what he was doing he not crazy 😢they talking about deport him they need give life without or 💉💉💉
I have been sick to my stomach since I heard about the horrific way this woman was set on fire and suffered the most gruesome death.....You need to realize that people who are attacked and try to defend themselves or others in my city get penalized for the effort so their is a reluctance to get involved; When law and order is not allowed this is the sad sad outcome. I could not imagine not helping anyone in this situation either.
I must say I was truly heartbroken and a bit traumatized seeing her suffer and standing up while on fire. Now not to make any excuses for anyone because I prayed that I could have helped that lady in some way. But ladies and gentlemen let’s look at facts here. If someone is engulfed in flames and you do not have a fire blanket or fire extinguisher or large amount of water to immediately douse her flames then there was nothing that you could have done. What I would have liked to see is some men detain the monster that did this to her. I pray for her and her family and I pray for all of you living in NY.
If they really wanted to identify her I am sure they would have posted her face since they had video's of everyone to rides the subway... They know who she is
I was on the NYC subway constantly for years living there. If I'd seen this happen, I would have run immediately to try to get help, and/or call 911 on my phone. You could try chucking a coat on the person, but it may not help, it depends where fire is concerned. There's almost never cops or help available right at the scene, on the trains, etc. or in the stations.
New Yorkers literally walk around acting oblivious of their surroundings. I see it everyday because I live in NJ but work in NYC. We were taught to be alert when coming to New York because of all the people and the crime. It’s crazy to me. And in school We all learned stop, drop and roll. Yes take off your coats and get her to the floor. And hold that fool who did this until the cops come. This is beyond sad.
I know right! She probably wasn’t thinking about the drop and roll, it probably surprised her and caught her off guard. He needs to stay in jail for the rest of his life.
I find it odd they do not have security footage of the woman on the subway prior to the event. I am NOT surprised that nobody helped the woman. Remember, this is the same city that was celebrating the murder of a CEO just the week before. The whole country was celebrating it in fact. How do you expect people like that to help a stranger? 🤷🏻♂️
Also they push people on the tracks there too. I have a feeling this woman is an immigrant too. These people are an enigma. We don't know who they are. They haven't identified her.
White man killed sick and suffeing black man on train and he a heroe 😢😢😢😢😢 needed to be in jail white people wake up please he a demon he came back into america joe and kam horror show they should charge govement with crimes
Unfortunately i dont honestly believed anything could have been done to save this poor woman , Look at how engulf she was from her face to her hands and this animal the man that sat her on fire also was fanning the flames which made it worse... This truly angers me to the fullest extend he came over here illgeal and now still have to support this animal behind bars and he still get 3 meals a day and a bed to sleep in when he should be buried underneath the jail.
Wrong! In the train station and on the train, there is close circuit television, which captured the full incident from start to finish, with Police and Security present, who did absolutely nothing! They know who this woman was, as soon as she boarded the train because it is on closed circuit television! I have been told, that she was a young black woman who was homeless! I cannot confirm if this is true! There is a deliberate cover up!
How did he get back in? Because this administration has made it impossible for states to block border crossings. This is not about blame but about responsibility. Talking about working together does nothing of one group continually repeats the steps which cause the problem. Enforce the laws.
He was deported by President Donald Trump in 2018! Joe Biden and Kamala Harris decided to have open Borders! I say no more! I blame them 2 for this poor woman's death!
Im not surprised. Look at the times we're living in. Very few ppl care about the next man or woman. I remember growing up in NJ back in the 90s n early 2000s. Most men would step in if they saw another man violating a woman. Now, sum men dont even protect their own women. Rip to the victim, she didnt deserve that.
@leslieann2698 yup. Its crazy out here. Alot of folks with nothing to lose. I like to go out but avoid unnecessary interactions with ppl, especially public transportation.
I've grown up in the 80s & 90s and that used to be that way too. I used to love taking walks not no more because I know no one will come to my aid. Scary times we are living in. 💔🙏
Hi. I’m a new subscriber to your wonderful channel. Born and raised in NYC- I have never seen this amount of crime ever in all my years - it’s beyond a disgrace! I agree with you about Luigi and this horror story! This is terrorism! That poor woman!
when i saw the cop walk pass i wondered if maybe he thought it was a garbage fire and was being dealt with, he didnt really even look, like it was a common occurance rather than an actual person, he might be upset now he realises
Okay one thing people never get right about this story is that this happened around 7:30 in the morning on the very last stop on a very very cold day. Most people had already left the train and that platform in the station, it is a big station, I've been there going to Coney Island. You might not see everything if you are on a different platform. When the perp had his lighter, the cameras inside the train recorded him as he did what he did, stood there and watched, also staring at the camera, this is shown in the stills the news outlets broadcasted and printed online. if the lady who passed away is to be identified then it will be hours of going through video because apparently, they are saying she was homeless with no ID, so checking fingerprints with a special technology and dental records and DNA. She had a walker which is visible, in one of the still shots, in the flames and bottles around her but I don't any bottles myself. I did see all the cellphone videos but the train video interior has not been released yet, just 3 stills. it might seem strange, but it was good that someone recorded this guy outside of the train fanning the flames, it shows he was deliberately intent on causing as much harm as possible and the officer who was just standing there watching him. If the lady has family, they hopefully can and will sue a lot of people that failed their family member. Also, the high schoolers that called after the incident when the police unwittingly let the perp go should get every last cent of that ten-thousand-dollar reward money, they deserve it. I believe the reason no one actually helped the lady is no one really knew what happened, was there an accelerant, why wasn't she making and noise or moving to show she had not self-inflicted this on herself. I know someone should have helped nonetheless. I did see a blurry photo of her lying on the ground face up after the fire extinguishers were used, it reminded me of the fellow in the park earlier in the year who self-immolated and though he was alive in the ambulance he did expire in the hospital. it is simply sad and the perp has a video of him saying things about how he likes to drink and smoke and just doesn't care about anything. There is no DP effect because no one was around to see what the perp had done until it was way too late, all the police knew initially was there was a fire in a subway car. There is more info but I can't put it all here.
This could go either way. If she was euro then that could cause a bad look on NY state officials for allowing Penny the subway strangler -to be released, rewarded, made a millionaire, even thanked by the future president after what he did; Which all of this of course inspired this fire-bug alien to do what he did BUT THE GAG IS-he did it to a euro citizen; Now it’s almost like an embarrassing backfire on the state of NY; That’s another angle to look at this -But we shall see.. And me personally think she’s black tho;
Unfortunately, she may not even be from New York. I met a homeless woman downtown, an older lady, originally from out West...had problems in her life and made it to NYC.
Ask the police they were standing right there ask them why call their police department and find out why nobody did anything!!!! If you wanna know so bad call and ask them
Another thing how do they have footage of him in and out of the train but do not have any footage of her in the train just like him or when she walked into the station. They did say she had a walker so she should be easy to identify walking into the train station where she got on from.
We gotta ask ourselves, whenever we're presented with stories like these; Why is there so little information at first, but then only fed in tidbits each day, for weeks at a time, so that they let the story "develop" (as they gather, or process all the info?) as they (supposedly) find out more? Or rather they "develop" the story(line), the narrative, as they "release" a little more (selected) pieces of info at a time, for a particular agenda of course... If there is train car surveillance footage as claimed, why have we seen no video of it yet?? I haven't on TH-cam anyway. Only a few selected still pics released, I have seen 4 pics that I know of, all very grainy quality. They released one still pic from one cop's bodycam, but no other bodycam stills or video footage (that I know of).Why is that?? If this was a real event, why was the scene not secured off, and everyone on the scene when police arrived questioned? At least they have not said anyone was questioned at the scene, supposedly Zapeta was not even "recognized as being at the scene" (paraphrasd), only identified from the surveillance and bodycam footage, according to the words of MTA Chief Gulotta. And yes he does show up in the bystander footage, so we are to believe he was really there, and I sure he was at the scene; he apparently posted a selfie video on an empty train car that I saw posted on a fake Amelia Carter Facebook popup account 2 days ago. But why is it we have not seen the alleged evidence of him starting this fire yet, that is a completely valid question IMO. We have also seen no footage or identifying still pics of the 'victim' (I haven't), why is that?
I agree about the disconnection. My son has not spoken to me in two years. We were very close until one day he sent me a text telling me what a terrible mother I’ve been all his life. I believe it was influenced from his wife and maybe she somehow turned him against me, but it really hurts. He wouldn’t know or I guess even care if I was alive or dead
Leslie, I cried. I couldn't make it through the first video I saw. Her form just... unmoving as the flames devoured her entirely, licking the ceiling of the train as everyone stood by and idly watched. Even the police officer stood by and watched, almost as if in amusement with the perpetrator. Nobody's child deserves to suffer like she did. She was homeless, young, and clearly struggling. She was somebody's daughter, and was younger than my own sister. I can't even imagine the panicked thoughts that had been pounding in her mind at the time, as her chances of survival decreased with each person's hesitation and ignorance on that damn train. If I was there, i would've done something, anything in my power to put out the flames - I am 18, fresh out of HS working full time at a cafe in Pittsburgh. It takes me 48 minutes to take the bus to my job, and I feel so scared for my safety, as a young black woman, that I have to carry a large butterfly knife with me in case some drunken immigrant chooses to try to set me on fire. I know a knife isn't going to stop a full grown man from savagely dousing me in flammable fluids from 4 feet away, and I know a knife isn't stopping a full grown man from savagely setting me on fire either. A few weeks ago an elderly woman was r*ped and assaulted after being followed home on Pittsburgh Public Transit after getting off the same exact bus that I was on. She was 93 and was going downtown to watch a play. The brutality of the crime and her age shocked me in a way i can't describe. Monsters don't discriminate, and I don't want to have to live the rest of my youth in a constant state of anxiety because the person next to me might be actively plotting to kill me "just because they felt like it". I fear for this world, I really do.
THERE ARE NON- VIOLENT HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT HURT YOU, BUT THERE ARE A FEW HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING. ALWAYS STAY A GOOD DISTANCE FROM ANYONE WHO IS HOMELESS, ONLY GIVE A DOLLAR TO SOMEONE IN PLAIN SIGHT WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE AROUND AND GIVE IN ARMS DISTANCE. GIVE ONLY WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS WITH YOU IN PLAIN SIGHT. MENTAL ILLNESS IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO HURT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. HE KNEW SHE WAS A HUMAN BEING.
The cops had 3 fire extinguishers in the one video I saw, that they were dousing the train car with, where did those come from(??), if there are none on the cars themselves or the subway platforms? Zapeta was allegedly alone with the 'victim' in that car, I assume that's what you meant by "She was alone in the car.".
This guy was kicked out of U.S.A. in 2018. People asking how he got back in!!?? Undocumented immigrant.... we might as well open up SING SING... and let those individuals roam NYC...
I live in New York City. We had an incident where a man was threatening passengers on a subway. A citizen subdued the man in a chokehold, and the man died as a result. The citizen was hailed as a hero by some and vilified by others. He was charged but was eventually acquitted. That situation may make people hesitant to get involved, as it may not be worth the trouble.
You are a liar. The victim was having a mental health crisis and that murderer unnecessarily intervened and “restrained” the victim by choking him to death. ALL liars and murderers will have their place in the lake of fire. Then, your incoming president publicly hailed him as a “hero”. Criminals love each others company.
You clearly don't listen. Call black lives matter and ask them why nobody wanted to help that girl and you will get the answer to your question@@buzzinbee9463
A lot of the time when a person steps in, they are the person that usually loses their own life. It is sad. I am a new Yorker. I can yell STOP!!!! Call for help, run for help. It is crazy in NYC.
That’s NOT TRUE! That is false! It’s not Amelia Carter! That info has been confirmed to be FAKE. They still don’t have the identity of that poor woman.
This is such a terrible story, I cannot even imagine what that woman went through. I don’t know all the details but it’s a shame no one was able to help her.
Don't know why people acting so surprised. Transit workers been getting attacked for YEARS and nobody say s a word.... So what makes you think passengers are going to be safe? If they not going to protect the transit workers why are they going to protect the passengers. I just hope this woman family is found soon.
What happen we to the camera footage of the ride into coney island itself? The man and woman ride that train together fir mny stops, so there must be film of her face. Other casses you see video of incidents insude the train,yet there is none presented.This is very strange,there must be video from the train car cameras
@leslieann2698 It seems strange how so many cameras were installed in subway cars,but has not dettered crime.I remember signs on the train that read you are being watched.Yeah buy big deal,if that doesn' t offer protection or security
EXACTLY! First person I've seen with some sense. They have the video of both the suspect and the victim before the incident but refuse to show it to the public. They claim they can't identify the woman because she was so badly burned, so wouldn't it make sense to release the video of her before the incident so that maybe someone will recognized her? Makes sense to me.
No one has family anymore because of capitalism and unresolved trauma Me and my mom talk once a month we love each other but we don’t have a relationship because she was a single mother and worked all the time So a lot of people once grandma gone don’t have a real family
In nyc you have a lot of vulnerable people, nyc is a place of association so people don’t get involved in situations because their to afraid they will be the next target. So no one do anything because they think the next person will step in and in the end no one helps they just watch on terror. I was on the train 2 weeks ago and two ladies started fighting and we was on a packed train and no one stepped in other than me and one other guy, I had to jump across ten people to get to them and he grabbed one and I grabbed the other everyone else just watched in entertainment
In NYC it is the Daniel Penny effect, help someone who is attacked and you get arrested and put on trial. For what? hurting an homeless lunatic or an illegal who was trying to kill a fellow American. That it in a nutshell.
1:10 I’m not entirely sure why the concept of “bystander apathy” isn’t regularly taught. Because it’s actually a normal human response that developed over a millennia ago with our ancestors. I hypothesize that it probably came about because way back then if there were some danger occurring, and you went to help, chances are your life would also likely end. There’s a sentinel case about this actually that took place in New York, you can look her up kitty Genovese. Basically she was being attacked and I think Queens and people turned their lights on everybody heard, but nobody actually did anything. And I think part of the rationale was also that someone thinks that the other person‘s gonna do it so and so forth, so it’s just passing the buck. I don’t know. I’ve never been really one to succumb to bystander apathy, but I’ve definitely experienced it happening to me. Once I was on the subway and I had all this groceries with me and there was this white young woman that was taking up two seats and I wanted to sit so I just sat at the corner of the seat because she’s not entitled to two seats if she didn’t pay twice and then she started kicking me and nobody did anything and I just sat there. I didn’t care. And then when I got off the train this Latino guy Told me that I should’ve just got up. I was appalled, I said so you’re actually advocating for her behavior and he responded. You don’t know what these people like. Could be capable of blah blah blah. Mind you I’m a bipoc man and this girl was not the least bit intimidating. But what he did show me was how socialized we are towards whiteness where the defense is going towards the perpetrator just because they’re white
@ thanks! I could be wrong and it still be bystander effect. Either way better understanding of this innate response would move us more towards compassion over judgement
¿Why you don't ask, : Why are so much homeless , so many people in poberty? It's difficult for me to understand that there are people sleeping in subway or train, and the most og them are women , elderly.
I live in NYC and near the train stop where the incident took place and know of the suspect personally from having run ins with him in every day commutes Because he hangs out near the 711 on Brighton beach ave. He expressed hating NYC And he expressed how he has problems with people every day Treating him badly And starting problems with him. A lot of people are gonna get angry with me for saying this but a lot of the blame is to be placed on the people who voted for the democrat party because they voted for open borders And a national security threat because of their hate for Trump. A lot of people wanted the racist orange man out of the White House because he was too racist by wanting to keep the border closed. Sad to say A lot of people in certain communities overwhelmingly voted for the democrat party again Is an overwhelmingly voted against their best interests. There are over 12 million undocumented people in this country as a result to the democrat party's open border. Unfortunately There are gonna be a lot more situations like this happening and it may very well reach somebody's doorstep personally as it did some of the other victims that have been unalive by undocumented immigrants under this administration. There are lies in the media claiming that they are self deporting which is not true. They are still being housed in expensive hotels here in New York City Funded by taxpayers while American citizens are being left out in a cold to remain homeless. Now they are starting to spread out to keep from being spotted because of Trump's threat of mass deportations. So they may very well be in your neighborhoods soon as a result to those of you who voted for the democrat party. The Venezuelan TDA gangs is nothing to mess with And even the gangs in Chicago are having a hard time dealing with them because they are 10 times more dangerous than the American gangs here in the United States. There are terrorists that have also come across that border but people was too busy going on an emotional rampage and Voted based off of their emotions. What happened to Riley was also messed up. There was enough crime already in the United States without all these additional people coming here and now we are officially a third world country. A lot of these migrants have also expressed their dislike for New York City and the natives here. So I would not be surprised if there's more situations like this to occur. Not to mention there are still people crossing access to the United States with a sense of entitlement. This is far from over. Not to mention some of these people in higher power positions is fighting to keep them here. There has been a lot of crimes against women and children since they've come here. Some of you guys have grandchildren and kids who have to commute to And from school And now they're everywhere and starting to spread out. People were too busy out there voting on Abortion rights and transgender rights but did not think about national security threats. Not to mention now the drones are being spotted in all 50 states. It's just really sad how people were so ignorant at the voting polls. Now they are trying to disqualify Trump from becoming president Which means if the current is administration remains involved. They are gonna continue to allow them to keep crossing the border so the national security threat is going to be 10 times higher and what you're seen on this train is nothing. Look at what's happening to the residents and those apartment buildings in Aurora Colorado in Denver. That is going to be an issue in all 50 states. Sad to say law enforcement is not gonna hold them accountable like they would do in American citizen. He was already deported before under the trump administration and came back under the Biden /harris administration and now this😢
In my life I've been in situations where I needed help and No One Helped me. This isn't new at all many people are desensitized when it comes to people they just don't care. Crime happens so often its like, oh well. Damn Shame!
No one can be trusted. Not either what you want to call a "Brother or Sisters Keeper". God is my Protector. My friend Earline disappeared from my life. The last conversation we had was when she told me her Eldest Son wanted to sell her house she was currently living in. She then told me one day, he was coming by her house to move her to a brand new home in Philadelphia. He had "surprised " her with a new home. I have not heard from Earline since that time. I don't even know if she is still alive. No one can be trusted. Not even, " Brother or Sister's Keeper".
In NY thanks to the Daniel Perry case, people will no longer help one another which is truly sad. We are all GOD’S children no matter our color or race. We should be fighting evil not each other.
I do wish that someone could have helped her. That is a horrible way to die. What reason did he have to do this to another human being! We are not safe we really are not! Have a lovely day Leslie it’s cold we have fog here it’s damp I am waiting on Amazon Prime and fresh today and Sainsbury shopping. I find it hard to get out and about and this weather is not for my illness at all. Bless up! ❤
I would have called 912 the cops walked by didn’t do anything I would be afraid the guy would set me on fire I would not be filmy it that’s insane RIP🙏
Mr. Neely did not lay a finger on her or threaten anyone. The subway strangler got away with murder. He could have stopped once Mr. Neely was not resp but he kept going for another 5 minutes. He had help too because that POS is a coward. Oh and he snuck in from behind.
If u tell a person they are ignorant they b more ignorant..sad world. Its like power.evil power. Selfish non caring non empathising rude ,ready to bully. All this must go..
The established policies at the open border, no vetting and declaring NYC a sanctuary city along w no consequences for those who commit crimes throughout our city is the problem. Plain and simple. Until those policies change, we cannot expect any change at all.
Can someone please explain to me why the woman who was burned to death was standing and not rolling on the ground to try to put herself out, or did I not see the full video? Did she burn the death standing up?
ANY Excuse will do as Long as I Take no Responsibility for My Decisions and My Actions the BIBLE said That in the Last days they will be without natural affection this. Is SAD the people allowed this to happen ❤🎉 I never got that drunk in a million years
Ce niveau de déshumanisation , dans votre pays, me sidère "littéralement"... Comment des êtres humains et pire...Des POLICIERS passent "tranquillement" devant cette femme "en feu", sans même lui apporter une quelconque assistance... Je suis désolée mais ce pays est malade... -De son ultra-violence -De son racisme systémique historique -De son injustice phénoménale -Liste non exhaustive... Preuve en est... Cette femme en feu traité comme "un infrahumain..." Sous les yeux de tous. L'horreur absolue (Point barre et final) 😎🍿✌🏻
Nowadays people are more compassionate towards pets than human beings 😢
Say that again please!!!!!
I agree
No!!!! I said no one is to be trusted.
This is true because there are laws that give more protection to animals than a specific group of people.
Nowadays people are more compassionate towards pets than strong independent women who chose the bear. *
About 15 years ago my son was violently attacked and robbed on a subway train in Philly. The passengers on the train did absolutely nothing, they didn’t even push the emergency button in the car. The police had me watched the video surveillance and it hurt me to the core as I watched people get the train and my son crawling off the train looking for help. What happened to human compassion.
That’s sad, I’m sorry that happened to him. I pray he’s doing okay and healing from that.
Daniel Penny happened.
My condolences I remember that story something similar happen to me,on broad street line,towards dauphin subway,they stop patrols back in the early 90's this world insane.🎉
@ They tried to take his cellphone, I told him a phone can be replaced not his life.
Aren't none 😢😢they that watch will need help one day
Only a demon 😈 would do this
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I agree ppl are on demon time 😢😢😢
I agree. He wasn’t drunk he was demonic
WHY won't they identify the victim? They HAVE subway video of her and the suspect entering the subway and boarding the train. So even if they don't have her medical identity; they CAN show the public the video of her before the incident. Who knows, maybe someone will recognize her.
They probably can't if she's an illegal. They are not in the system.
Because she is most likely Black and the city doesn't want black people going on riots against their precious illegal migrants
It seems like a secret - who is she?! 🤔
I suspect that the woman was black and they don't want to start a riot. Also, the democrats need black people support for the illegals, and they're afraid the black people"might" stop supporting them and their agendas if they find out the victim was black!
@@riboflavinfolate3964 Her identity was revealed last week. 29 yesr old student in college. It was on local news
Almost 2 years ago I was attacked in NYC minutes away from my job by a homeless man and he assaulted me, chased me, and spit in my face. The police did nothing and the public did nothing. I had an assembly person assisting with me getting justice as the man was never arrested however, no charges was ever brought against him and all I was told that because he’s a homeless EDP he has to seek help. This world is not safe for women is all I can say is. I didn’t get justice until this man passed away outside of my job from a heart attack.
Another 20 year old young blk girl was just set on fire suffered 3rd degree burns on 70% of her body somewhere in the south.
Oh no 🙏🏾
It happened in North Carolina, her name is Ashanti.
Awful! I saw that video last night. A YT creator was trying to get the word out to help find the three men and was reporting for her go fund me.
@@eskimoblack I dont know why it's not a bigger story. Only on TH-cam channels
@@soulfireonfire6423 why isn't the news covering it???
My experience is nowhere horrific as what this poor woman went through, but I got a glimpse of where society was heading 6 years ago. I was on crutches with a broken leg, in the middle of winter. No one offered up their seat for me, no one held the door open, etc. Everyone was engrossed in themselves, glued to their screens. Another time, my mother and I got caught up in quick sand near a riverbank. These 2 young men nearby just sat there relaxing as they watched us calling for help. I know I sound entitled and shouldn't expect anything from others, but if the tables were turned I would have done all I could to help them. I was raised to look out for others and have always done so. It's so obvious that our society is collapsing and if you're fortunate to have good family and friends, keep them close. We are going to need to build community if we are going to survive what's ahead...
Why should I?? You're a strong independent woman that don't need no man and can do anything to man can.. you want it equal rights well you're getting them stop crying about it man up!!
@nadineskye7050, You do not sound entitle, you needed help at that moment and you did what most of us would have done too under those circumstance. Thank God you came out of it.
@linlee8860 what should we offer up our seat?? You women are strong and independent and don't need no man.. you can do anything a man can this is what equal rights look like you wanted it quit crying about it..
I'm disabled but fortunately I live in a small logging town out west and everyone knows everybody. Cities scare me from what I see on u-tube
@@luckylogger7594 I lived in the city for about 20 some years and I got out of there.. moved out to the country where I now own land and it's peaceful and quiet.. too much violence in the city and it's only gotten worse..
They did something: These parasites recorded the victim being burned to death, and the rest of them ignored her!
And I'm wondering if this poor woman was black. Could that also be the reason why the police and everyone else didn't want to help? Then, it would be a hate crime.
This is absolutely horrible!!
We will soon find out.
Correct me if I’m wrong yall but they are saying the woman was homeless. I feel like that is why they are not putting all the effort into identifying her. There is also a higher chance that no one is looking for her. Since they have cameras in the subway, shouldn’t they be looking at the camera to get an image of her? Poor woman!
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one news channnel said they waiting for DNA and fingerprints to see if they can identify her family that way
@@spudspuddy its unbelievable they didnt release images of her from the subway camera
@@NotToodayy good point she must be on earlier footage entering the carriage
I don't think you understand how homelessness works. If she was sleeping on the subway system in New York City, that means that she had absolutely no one.
It’s crazy. I’m from the New York City area was around during 911 with the twin towers everybody helped out then, but nobody helps out with the woman on fire
Sad
That's like comparing apples and orange's. No one is obligated to help anyone. No civilians ran into the twin towers to help, only Firemen. The police officer was the only one obligated, but didn't.
@sonyaethaniel I was around the twin towers many people did help each other.
We are obligated to help others, if we have morals we help.
All the good people have passed on.
This is heartbreaking man. I just can’t imagine what that poor lady went through all that pain and people stood and recorded it. The police causally walks by doing nothing.💔🤬
What would you do?
Leslie I had to go into my bedroom to get my electric throw. This is the most horrific act I have ever heard about they showed a police officer walking by. And I saw the lady engulfed in a ball of fire!! Omg 😦
I know right? Why didn’t he help? And where & who is he?!?!?
@ Leslie love there is no LOVE in THIS WORLD ANYMORE! Did you not see DENZEL WASHINGTON GOT BAPTISED! This is a big sign trust me. This is a step I want to make. It is horrible out here! Just get your LIFE IN ORDER! And CLING TO YOUR FAITH! 🙏🏿💫✨
We are definitely in the last days. It's so sad.
Yep
last days for him, when the other inmates get a hold of him
STOP, DROP & ROLL
Where were the Fire Extinguishers ???
Fire Suppression System ???
* EVERYONE who rides the subway should be asking these questions.
Her family will sue everyone responsible.
I agree
She was in shock. When you are burning alive, you're not thinking straight. Also, I heard when someone burns their nerves get so badly damaged that "Standing in place." can happen.
A lot of us feel this way. So sad we weren’t there to do whatever we could to help that woman. 😢
Leslie, this story is so sad. The crazy part was people would rather record, than help. We are regressing as a nation.
Agree sis
80% of people are followers, 10% of people are observers, and 10% are leaders. The people filming are clearly observers who will never get involved. We can't be mad at them or blame them in a crisis.
Sebastien showed us how demonic an Indifferent community is. Can you imagine just recording your date choking to death?!
Yep. We have become DISCONNECTED with our face glued to a phone.
I think they have the cctv subway photo and ran it through facial recognition software. I think they have identified her, but they are holding on to that info. I watched the actual video and I immediately thought it’s a black woman in her 20-30s. It was an all black group that held the prayer vigil at the station where it happened. They may be struggling to find her family, but I think the authorities are letting this calm down a bit before the info is given for fear of how the black community will react.
Same my spirit is telling me she is black. I was so bothered by this. I couldn't even pray I had to take my time and just vent to God because I felt so strongly about her. I don't know why but I hope she's at peace with him
Yes I thought so too by the way the police officer was so nonchalant walking back-and-forth and not helping her neither was the other people videotaping it. May the most high bring her justice😢😢
i thought she was a white woman
As a former EMT and native New Yorker, people here don’t help anyone.
I'm glad I'd don't live there it's no way where I'm from 😢😢people sat there do nothing the men and women would 🤷 help her before it even got out control infact they attack him before he sat her on fire especially if they seen him nobody get that drunk 🥴 he knew what he was doing he not crazy 😢they talking about deport him they need give life without or 💉💉💉
I have been sick to my stomach since I heard about the horrific way this woman was set on fire and suffered the most gruesome death.....You need to realize that people who are attacked and try to defend themselves or others in my city get penalized for the effort so their is a reluctance to get involved; When law and order is not allowed this is the sad sad outcome. I could not imagine not helping anyone in this situation either.
Peace to the woman soul n may her spirit bring about a positive change in NYC.
I must say I was truly heartbroken and a bit traumatized seeing her suffer and standing up while on fire. Now not to make any excuses for anyone because I prayed that I could have helped that lady in some way. But ladies and gentlemen let’s look at facts here. If someone is engulfed in flames and you do not have a fire blanket or fire extinguisher or large amount of water to immediately douse her flames then there was nothing that you could have done. What I would have liked to see is some men detain the monster that did this to her. I pray for her and her family and I pray for all of you living in NY.
I agree.☝🏾
If they really wanted to identify her I am sure they would have posted her face since they had video's of everyone to rides the subway... They know who she is
I was on the NYC subway constantly for years living there. If I'd seen this happen, I would have run immediately to try to get help, and/or call 911 on my phone. You could try chucking a coat
on the person, but it may not help, it depends where fire is concerned. There's almost never cops or help available right at the scene, on the trains, etc. or in the stations.
New Yorkers literally walk around acting oblivious of their surroundings. I see it everyday because I live in NJ but work in NYC. We were taught to be alert when coming to New York because of all the people and the crime. It’s crazy to me. And in school We all learned stop, drop and roll. Yes take off your coats and get her to the floor. And hold that fool who did this until the cops come. This is beyond sad.
I know right! She probably wasn’t thinking about the drop and roll, it probably surprised her and caught her off guard. He needs to stay in jail for the rest of his life.
@@leslieann2698 I’m sure she was hysterical. But all those losers watching knew to do it.
I find it odd they do not have security footage of the woman on the subway prior to the event. I am NOT surprised that nobody helped the woman. Remember, this is the same city that was celebrating the murder of a CEO just the week before. The whole country was celebrating it in fact. How do you expect people like that to help a stranger? 🤷🏻♂️
Also they push people on the tracks there too. I have a feeling this woman is an immigrant too. These people are an enigma. We don't know who they are. They haven't identified her.
White man killed sick and suffeing black man on train and he a heroe 😢😢😢😢😢 needed to be in jail white people wake up please he a demon he came back into america joe and kam horror show they should charge govement with crimes
Unfortunately i dont honestly believed anything could have been done to save this poor woman , Look at how engulf she was from her face to her hands and this animal the man that sat her on fire also was fanning the flames which made it worse... This truly angers me to the fullest extend he came over here illgeal and now still have to support this animal behind bars and he still get 3 meals a day and a bed to sleep in when he should be buried underneath the jail.
Wrong! In the train station and on the train, there is close circuit television, which captured the full incident from start to finish, with Police and Security present, who did absolutely nothing! They know who this woman was, as soon as she boarded the train because it is on closed circuit television! I have been told, that she was a young black woman who was homeless! I cannot confirm if this is true! There is a deliberate cover up!
How did he get back in? Because this administration has made it impossible for states to block border crossings. This is not about blame but about responsibility. Talking about working together does nothing of one group continually repeats the steps which cause the problem. Enforce the laws.
Great question. We shall find out. It’s still all unfolding.
I have a feeling she was a black woman. I may be wrong...
He was deported by President Donald Trump in 2018! Joe Biden and Kamala Harris decided to have open Borders! I say no more! I blame them 2 for this poor woman's death!
@@WaterRock-s5x This is what I am hearing!
Im not surprised. Look at the times we're living in. Very few ppl care about the next man or woman. I remember growing up in NJ back in the 90s n early 2000s. Most men would step in if they saw another man violating a woman. Now, sum men dont even protect their own women. Rip to the victim, she didnt deserve that.
Agree. I grew up in that time as well but a lot has changed and people has gotten afraid to help another due to be prosecuted .
@leslieann2698 yup. Its crazy out here. Alot of folks with nothing to lose. I like to go out but avoid unnecessary interactions with ppl, especially public transportation.
I've grown up in the 80s & 90s and that used to be that way too. I used to love taking walks not no more because I know no one will come to my aid. Scary times we are living in. 💔🙏
@leslieann2698 That's what actually happened to Daniel Penny.😞
Hi. I’m a new subscriber to your wonderful channel. Born and raised in NYC- I have never seen this amount of crime ever in all my years - it’s beyond a disgrace! I agree with you about Luigi and this horror story! This is terrorism! That poor woman!
when i saw the cop walk pass i wondered if maybe he thought it was a garbage fire and was being dealt with, he didnt really even look, like it was a common occurance rather than an actual person, he might be upset now he realises
Who knows! Hopefully he speaks up soon.
Okay one thing people never get right about this story is that this happened around 7:30 in the morning on the very last stop on a very very cold day.
Most people had already left the train and that platform in the station, it is a big station, I've been there going to Coney Island.
You might not see everything if you are on a different platform.
When the perp had his lighter, the cameras inside the train recorded him as he did what he did, stood there and watched, also staring at the camera, this is shown in the stills the news outlets broadcasted and printed online.
if the lady who passed away is to be identified then it will be hours of going through video because apparently, they are saying she was homeless with no ID, so checking fingerprints with a special technology and dental records and DNA.
She had a walker which is visible, in one of the still shots, in the flames and bottles around her but I don't any bottles myself.
I did see all the cellphone videos but the train video interior has not been released yet, just 3 stills.
it might seem strange, but it was good that someone recorded this guy outside of the train fanning the flames, it shows he was deliberately intent on causing as much harm as possible and the officer who was just standing there watching him.
If the lady has family, they hopefully can and will sue a lot of people that failed their family member.
Also, the high schoolers that called after the incident when the police unwittingly let the perp go should get every last cent of that ten-thousand-dollar reward money, they deserve it.
I believe the reason no one actually helped the lady is no one really knew what happened, was there an accelerant, why wasn't she making and noise or moving to show she had not self-inflicted this on herself.
I know someone should have helped nonetheless.
I did see a blurry photo of her lying on the ground face up after the fire extinguishers were used, it reminded me of the fellow in the park earlier in the year who self-immolated and though he was alive in the ambulance he did expire in the hospital.
it is simply sad and the perp has a video of him saying things about how he likes to drink and smoke and just doesn't care about anything.
There is no DP effect because no one was around to see what the perp had done until it was way too late, all the police knew initially was there was a fire in a subway car.
There is more info but I can't put it all here.
Wickedness in America still in 2024 😢😢😢
Who is the burned woman, is what I want to know. Was she Black or not? And is what will determine what happens in the case moving forward. Period.
She probably was white(?) Everone seems to hate us whites.
She probably was white(?) Everyone seems to hate us Whites.
I am 100%sure she's a young black lady in 20's
I think she was black, and that's why they won't even release subway video of before the incident.
This could go either way.
If she was euro then that could cause a bad look on NY state officials for allowing Penny the subway strangler -to be released, rewarded, made a millionaire, even thanked by the future president after what he did; Which all of this of course inspired this fire-bug alien to do what he did BUT THE GAG IS-he did it to a euro citizen; Now it’s almost like an embarrassing backfire on the state of NY; That’s another angle to look at this -But we shall see..
And me personally think she’s black tho;
Unfortunately, she may not even be from New York. I met a homeless woman downtown, an older lady, originally from out West...had problems in her life and made it to NYC.
People was filming. Tell her to drop and roll or something! That is what I was saying!
Ask the police they were standing right there ask them why call their police department and find out why nobody did anything!!!! If you wanna know so bad call and ask them
Rumor has it was a homeless woman. In NY it's mostly homeless people that sleep on the trains.
Another thing how do they have footage of him in and out of the train but do not have any footage of her in the train just like him or when she walked into the station. They did say she had a walker so she should be easy to identify walking into the train station where she got on from.
We gotta ask ourselves, whenever we're presented with stories like these;
Why is there so little information at first, but then only fed in tidbits each day, for weeks at a time,
so that they let the story "develop" (as they gather, or process all the info?) as they (supposedly) find out more?
Or rather they "develop" the story(line), the narrative, as they "release" a little more (selected) pieces of info at a time,
for a particular agenda of course...
If there is train car surveillance footage as claimed, why have we seen no video of it yet??
I haven't on TH-cam anyway.
Only a few selected still pics released, I have seen 4 pics that I know of, all very grainy quality.
They released one still pic from one cop's bodycam, but no other bodycam stills or video footage (that I know of).Why is that??
If this was a real event, why was the scene not secured off, and everyone on the scene when police arrived questioned?
At least they have not said anyone was questioned at the scene, supposedly Zapeta was not even "recognized as being at the scene" (paraphrasd), only identified from the surveillance and bodycam footage, according to the words of MTA Chief Gulotta.
And yes he does show up in the bystander footage, so we are to believe he was really there, and I sure he was at the scene;
he apparently posted a selfie video on an empty train car that I saw posted on a fake Amelia Carter Facebook popup account 2 days ago.
But why is it we have not seen the alleged evidence of him starting this fire yet, that is a completely valid question IMO.
We have also seen no footage or identifying still pics of the 'victim' (I haven't), why is that?
They want to make sure ppl forget or "calm" down.
I agree about the disconnection. My son has not spoken to me in two years. We were very close until one day he sent me a text telling me what a terrible mother I’ve been all his life. I believe it was influenced from his wife and maybe she somehow turned him against me, but it really hurts. He wouldn’t know or I guess even care if I was alive or dead
I know what you're going through. Stay strong ❤
Thank you! Excellent video and I share your sentiments Ma'am.
Thanks for watching!
It’s scary! 😱 It could happen to you or me !
Leslie, I cried.
I couldn't make it through the first video I saw. Her form just... unmoving as the flames devoured her entirely, licking the ceiling of the train as everyone stood by and idly watched. Even the police officer stood by and watched, almost as if in amusement with the perpetrator. Nobody's child deserves to suffer like she did. She was homeless, young, and clearly struggling. She was somebody's daughter, and was younger than my own sister. I can't even imagine the panicked thoughts that had been pounding in her mind at the time, as her chances of survival decreased with each person's hesitation and ignorance on that damn train. If I was there, i would've done something, anything in my power to put out the flames - I am 18, fresh out of HS working full time at a cafe in Pittsburgh. It takes me 48 minutes to take the bus to my job, and I feel so scared for my safety, as a young black woman, that I have to carry a large butterfly knife with me in case some drunken immigrant chooses to try to set me on fire.
I know a knife isn't going to stop a full grown man from savagely dousing me in flammable fluids from 4 feet away, and I know a knife isn't stopping a full grown man from savagely setting me on fire either.
A few weeks ago an elderly woman was r*ped and assaulted after being followed home on Pittsburgh Public Transit after getting off the same exact bus that I was on. She was 93 and was going downtown to watch a play. The brutality of the crime and her age shocked me in a way i can't describe. Monsters don't discriminate, and I don't want to have to live the rest of my youth in a constant state of anxiety because the person next to me might be actively plotting to kill me "just because they felt like it". I fear for this world, I really do.
I know it’s sad. Stay safe out there.🙏🏾
@ yeah it truly is, you stay safe as well, love the work you're doing here on this channel 🙏🏾💛
THERE ARE NON- VIOLENT HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT HURT YOU, BUT THERE ARE A FEW HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING. ALWAYS STAY A GOOD DISTANCE FROM ANYONE WHO IS HOMELESS, ONLY GIVE A DOLLAR TO SOMEONE IN PLAIN SIGHT WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE AROUND AND GIVE IN ARMS DISTANCE. GIVE ONLY WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS WITH YOU IN PLAIN SIGHT.
MENTAL ILLNESS IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO HURT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. HE KNEW SHE WAS A HUMAN BEING.
This is so sad 😔. I'm sure there are multiple cameras in or around entrances and exits of the subway.
There were no fire extinguishers She was alone in the car
So sad.
The cops had 3 fire extinguishers in the one video I saw, that they were dousing the train car with,
where did those come from(??), if there are none on the cars themselves or the subway platforms?
Zapeta was allegedly alone with the 'victim' in that car, I assume that's what you meant by "She was alone in the car.".
This guy was kicked out of U.S.A. in 2018. People asking how he got back in!!?? Undocumented immigrant.... we might as well open up SING SING... and let those individuals roam NYC...
I live in New York City. We had an incident where a man was threatening passengers on a subway. A citizen subdued the man in a chokehold, and the man died as a result. The citizen was hailed as a hero by some and vilified by others. He was charged but was eventually acquitted. That situation may make people hesitant to get involved, as it may not be worth the trouble.
That sounds crazy. Why wouldn't people try to help her in terms of helping the fire be put out from.her body. Stop being stupid.
You are a liar. The victim was having a mental health crisis and that murderer unnecessarily intervened and “restrained” the victim by choking him to death. ALL liars and murderers will have their place in the lake of fire.
Then, your incoming president publicly hailed him as a “hero”. Criminals love each others company.
But someone on fire is different. It seems they were afraid of the man.
You clearly don't listen. Call black lives matter and ask them why nobody wanted to help that girl and you will get the answer to your question@@buzzinbee9463
no, it was the fire. clothing is very flammable.
You should talk about Brooks the black guy died by officers in NY
What happened to him? So much keeps happening it’s hard to keep up
The bystander effect is a real thing. It explains why groups of people don’t interfere in a incident when it happens.
He should get 56 years no excuses
A lot of the time when a person steps in, they are the person that usually loses their own life. It is sad. I am a new Yorker. I can yell STOP!!!! Call for help, run for help. It is crazy in NYC.
That’s sad 😢. Stay safe
God bless you
New subscriber here. I liked you from the first two words you said.
Welcome sis!!!
@@leslieann2698 thank you
They're hiding her race
This is terrorism. It is premeditated. He carried a lighter and a towel. You are very observant ! 👍
They can levy fed charges and get him executed but this is a racist klavern so they will not.
Her name is Amelia Cater 29 years old!
She was a nurse from Florida, in NY, on Her way to see her grandmother for Christmas!
Oh ok thanks for the update
This is not true. The coroners have not been able to identify the victim.
False information. She has not been identified. The info you know of is from someone's rumor
THATS NOT HER
That’s NOT TRUE! That is false! It’s not Amelia Carter!
That info has been confirmed to be FAKE. They still don’t have the identity of that poor woman.
That action was Terrorism done by Sebastian Zepeta. Luigi Mangione is seen as a HERO for being angry about what goes on with medical insurance.
He said he was drunk, he wasn’t too drunk to start a fire!!! Insane
That’s what happens with you glorify demonic extremist behavior. -You just get more and more of it.
This is such a terrible story, I cannot even imagine what that woman went through. I don’t know all the details but it’s a shame no one was able to help her.
Don't know why people acting so surprised. Transit workers been getting attacked for YEARS and nobody say s a word.... So what makes you think passengers are going to be safe? If they not going to protect the transit workers why are they going to protect the passengers. I just hope this woman family is found soon.
What happen we to the camera footage of the ride into coney island itself? The man and woman ride that train together fir mny stops, so there must be film of her face. Other casses you see video of incidents insude the train,yet there is none presented.This is very strange,there must be video from the train car cameras
I agree, footage of her getting on or something
@leslieann2698 It seems strange how so many cameras were installed in subway cars,but has not dettered crime.I remember signs on the train that read you are being watched.Yeah buy big deal,if that doesn' t offer protection or security
EXACTLY! First person I've seen with some sense. They have the video of both the suspect and the victim before the incident but refuse to show it to the public. They claim they can't identify the woman because she was so badly burned, so wouldn't it make sense to release the video of her before the incident so that maybe someone will recognized her? Makes sense to me.
They haven't released that footage, because this is a "crisis acting event". I suspect it will probably never be released...
It should be film of her getting on the train and description of the clothing she was wearing!
No one has family anymore because of capitalism and unresolved trauma
Me and my mom talk once a month we love each other but we don’t have a relationship because she was a single mother and worked all the time
So a lot of people once grandma gone don’t have a real family
So true. I hope we all can heal 🙏🏾♥️
And welfare and feminism
When you ride the F train to the last stop, Stillwell you are only 1 of maybe 2 ppl on a cart. They were probably alone on there.
You got all the right answers. 🙂
Exactly your talking real facts
Thanks!
In nyc you have a lot of vulnerable people, nyc is a place of association so people don’t get involved in situations because their to afraid they will be the next target. So no one do anything because they think the next person will step in and in the end no one helps they just watch on terror.
I was on the train 2 weeks ago and two ladies started fighting and we was on a packed train and no one stepped in other than me and one other guy, I had to jump across ten people to get to them and he grabbed one and I grabbed the other everyone else just watched in entertainment
In NYC it is the Daniel Penny effect, help someone who is attacked and you get arrested and put on trial. For what? hurting an homeless lunatic or an illegal who was trying to kill a fellow American. That it in a nutshell.
People are afraid to step in for various reasons including stopping the perpetrator because of possible consequences. Sad state of affairs…
1:10 I’m not entirely sure why the concept of “bystander apathy” isn’t regularly taught. Because it’s actually a normal human response that developed over a millennia ago with our ancestors. I hypothesize that it probably came about because way back then if there were some danger occurring, and you went to help, chances are your life would also likely end. There’s a sentinel case about this actually that took place in New York, you can look her up kitty Genovese. Basically she was being attacked and I think Queens and people turned their lights on everybody heard, but nobody actually did anything. And I think part of the rationale was also that someone thinks that the other person‘s gonna do it so and so forth, so it’s just passing the buck. I don’t know. I’ve never been really one to succumb to bystander apathy, but I’ve definitely experienced it happening to me.
Once I was on the subway and I had all this groceries with me and there was this white young woman that was taking up two seats and I wanted to sit so I just sat at the corner of the seat because she’s not entitled to two seats if she didn’t pay twice and then she started kicking me and nobody did anything and I just sat there. I didn’t care. And then when I got off the train this Latino guy Told me that I should’ve just got up. I was appalled, I said so you’re actually advocating for her behavior and he responded. You don’t know what these people like. Could be capable of blah blah blah. Mind you I’m a bipoc man and this girl was not the least bit intimidating. But what he did show me was how socialized we are towards whiteness where the defense is going towards the perpetrator just because they’re white
They used to call it the "bystander effect".
latinos are want to be yts. Those are the worst racists. They wanna be yt so bad it hurts.
@ thanks! I could be wrong and it still be bystander effect. Either way better understanding of this innate response would move us more towards compassion over judgement
¿Why you don't ask, : Why are so much homeless , so many people in poberty? It's difficult for me to understand that there are people sleeping in subway or train, and the most og them are women , elderly.
I believed he knew her. He had been stalking her.
I don’t think so. He was homeless.
@@leslieann2698 she was too. They said she had reported him before to the police.
@@EternalRocks The police is useless in too many cases. They are the slave patrol.
Good morning Leslie! ❤
I live in NYC and near the train stop where the incident took place and know of the suspect personally from having run ins with him in every day commutes Because he hangs out near the 711 on Brighton beach ave. He expressed hating NYC And he expressed how he has problems with people every day Treating him badly And starting problems with him. A lot of people are gonna get angry with me for saying this but a lot of the blame is to be placed on the people who voted for the democrat party because they voted for open borders And a national security threat because of their hate for Trump. A lot of people wanted the racist orange man out of the White House because he was too racist by wanting to keep the border closed. Sad to say A lot of people in certain communities overwhelmingly voted for the democrat party again Is an overwhelmingly voted against their best interests. There are over 12 million undocumented people in this country as a result to the democrat party's open border. Unfortunately There are gonna be a lot more situations like this happening and it may very well reach somebody's doorstep personally as it did some of the other victims that have been unalive by undocumented immigrants under this administration. There are lies in the media claiming that they are self deporting which is not true. They are still being housed in expensive hotels here in New York City Funded by taxpayers while American citizens are being left out in a cold to remain homeless. Now they are starting to spread out to keep from being spotted because of Trump's threat of mass deportations. So they may very well be in your neighborhoods soon as a result to those of you who voted for the democrat party. The Venezuelan TDA gangs is nothing to mess with And even the gangs in Chicago are having a hard time dealing with them because they are 10 times more dangerous than the American gangs here in the United States. There are terrorists that have also come across that border but people was too busy going on an emotional rampage and Voted based off of their emotions. What happened to Riley was also messed up. There was enough crime already in the United States without all these additional people coming here and now we are officially a third world country. A lot of these migrants have also expressed their dislike for New York City and the natives here. So I would not be surprised if there's more situations like this to occur. Not to mention there are still people crossing access to the United States with a sense of entitlement. This is far from over. Not to mention some of these people in higher power positions is fighting to keep them here. There has been a lot of crimes against women and children since they've come here. Some of you guys have grandchildren and kids who have to commute to And from school And now they're everywhere and starting to spread out. People were too busy out there voting on Abortion rights and transgender rights but did not think about national security threats. Not to mention now the drones are being spotted in all 50 states. It's just really sad how people were so ignorant at the voting polls. Now they are trying to disqualify Trump from becoming president Which means if the current is administration remains involved. They are gonna continue to allow them to keep crossing the border so the national security threat is going to be 10 times higher and what you're seen on this train is nothing. Look at what's happening to the residents and those apartment buildings in Aurora Colorado in Denver. That is going to be an issue in all 50 states. Sad to say law enforcement is not gonna hold them accountable like they would do in American citizen. He was already deported before under the trump administration and came back under the Biden /harris administration and now this😢
Like you said you don’t know the New York culture. It’s easier said than done… it’s very dangerous here.
Stay safe🙏🏾
In my life I've been in situations where I needed help and No One Helped me.
This isn't new at all
many people are desensitized when it comes to people they just don't care.
Crime happens so often its like, oh well.
Damn Shame!
No one can be trusted. Not either what you want to call a "Brother or Sisters Keeper". God is my Protector. My friend Earline disappeared from my life. The last conversation we had was when she told me her Eldest Son wanted to sell her house she was currently living in. She then told me one day, he was coming by her house to move her to a brand new home in Philadelphia. He had "surprised " her with a new home. I have not heard from Earline since that time. I don't even know if she is still alive. No one can be trusted. Not even, " Brother or Sister's Keeper".
Yes God is definitely our protector but He gives us each other as well….
In NY thanks to the Daniel Perry case, people will no longer help one another which is truly sad. We are all GOD’S children no matter our color or race. We should be fighting evil not each other.
I live in New York it’s more of to why people don’t do anything when they see something is bec they don’t want whatever happening to them
ppl are cowards and apathetic. they piss me off man
It's so gruesome and it's too easy to get in this country. It's NY culture not to get involved.
Yeah that’s what I’ve been hearing, people want rather stay out it then help because it keeps them out of trouble
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Thanks!!
@ your welcome. I just found your channel im glad I did. You are a beautiful and sexy woman 100%🌷🔥. Happy new year 🎆
I do wish that someone could have helped her. That is a horrible way to die. What reason did he have to do this to another human being! We are not safe we really are not! Have a lovely day Leslie it’s cold we have fog here it’s damp I am waiting on Amazon Prime and fresh today and Sainsbury shopping. I find it hard to get out and about and this weather is not for my illness at all. Bless up! ❤
He is a racist. There is a lot of anti-Black racism in Latin America and the globe for that matter.
He doesn’t look drunk to me. Just pure evil and how could anyone video it? I believe we are also in the last days … to much evil!
👍🏾 agree
Not all New Yorkers are like the uncaring people on that train.
I thought he was fanning afterwards to try and put the fire out ? But probably not. So sad
Haven’t heard that
This is so sad
I would have called 912 the cops walked by didn’t do anything I would be afraid the guy would set me on fire I would not be filmy it that’s insane RIP🙏
You forgot to mention
Daniel Penny
This man was trying to help a woman...
Mr. Neely did not lay a finger on her or threaten anyone. The subway strangler got away with murder. He could have stopped once Mr. Neely was not resp but he kept going for another 5 minutes. He had help too because that POS is a coward. Oh and he snuck in from behind.
Why are they hiding this woman identity? I know they know who she is by now and what she look like.
People were in shock. He was also still there on the scene. some say he uses k2.
K2?
If u tell a person they are ignorant they b more ignorant..sad world. Its like power.evil power. Selfish non caring non empathising rude ,ready to bully. All this must go..
The established policies at the open border, no vetting and declaring NYC a sanctuary city along w no consequences for those who commit crimes throughout our city is the problem. Plain and simple. Until those policies change, we cannot expect any change at all.
REMOVE all the magnets and they will go home. ANyone helping the illegals gets fined and put in jail. That will stop it.
Can someone please explain to me why the woman who was burned to death was standing and not rolling on the ground to try to put herself out, or did I not see the full video? Did she burn the death standing up?
What you saw, just like the rest of us,
is what's called a "crisis acting video"
ANY Excuse will do as Long as I Take no Responsibility for My Decisions and My Actions the BIBLE said That in the Last days they will be without natural affection this. Is SAD the people allowed this to happen ❤🎉 I never got that drunk in a million years
A 28 yr old woman in North Carolina was set on fire a couple of days ago
Is she okay ? Did she make it?
Ce niveau de déshumanisation , dans votre pays, me sidère "littéralement"...
Comment des êtres humains et pire...Des POLICIERS passent "tranquillement" devant cette femme "en feu", sans même lui apporter une quelconque assistance...
Je suis désolée mais ce pays est malade...
-De son ultra-violence
-De son racisme systémique historique
-De son injustice phénoménale
-Liste non exhaustive...
Preuve en est...
Cette femme en feu traité comme "un infrahumain..."
Sous les yeux de tous.
L'horreur absolue (Point barre et final)
😎🍿✌🏻
Shame on people didn't help her so sad I'm so damn angry as hell and this should never had happening and family needs to stick together
Know one is talking about the victim and who she was
No one knows yet.
@leslieann2698 hmm, that's cap. Someone didn't show up at home or at work. This was a week ago.
This nyc nobody going help this why we pay taxes to make polictians rich tha which way .
THIS IS PURE EVIL!!!!
Yes it is.