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Probably close to 10 years ago we were driving through and thought we would stop at the Chuck e cheese in St Charles Missouri before you crossed the Missouri River entry into the realm of St Louis. They had the standard safety notices. No gun fighting no knife fighting no fist fighting and more along that line. That was posted in the kids play area! We didn't stay. We just kept on her trip and as we swung through what you would call South county stop for a pizza there. Exited the state on a way to probably Tennessee or maybe Kentucky.
Those dirty pig police sucked when they were funded and when they were defunded. I grew up in STL, I KNOW. Sometimes when we called them, they never even showed up.
Defunding is removing guns & replace those funds into programs for citizens this way armed unstable sinners with guns ready to kill out of fake fear & more exercising power with deadly force. Manipulating removing guns as to getting rid of public patrolling! Public patrolling not private gunmen.
I lived in both south city and north side by Goodfellow for 14 years and loved, it’s not that bad , all you have to have in you is street smart and common sense. Now I lived in La Jolla in San Diego and I can say that St Louis has more character and I will move back to STL in a flash.
Lol I'm sure your experience is based in fear. Clearly you have no real connection to stl. I've lived here my entire life and I'd disagree with your take.
@@williedeboise5182 That's not far off. I have lived in Missouri all my life for 30 years and I have been to St louis at least 12 times don't know exact number. I try to avoid it but I don't think i've ever been to the downtown area without seeing people beating the shit out of each other at least twice each pass through. Face it St Louis has problems. Especially downtown. Kansas city wasn't nowhere near that bad. But it's getting a bit worse it feels like to. It's not fear it really is that bad. I'll take Kansas city trip any day over St. Louis. I don't have anything against the people or places. Most I meet are fine. But the crime? Yeah. It's bad.
@@flashkirby101 "people beating the shit out of each other at least twice each pass through" You're full of shit. I've lived here for 31 years and literally laughed out loud at this comment.
The St. Louis area is SHIFTING in population, not really growing. A vast majority of the people who live in St. Charles County migrated from other areas around the metro. So technically, there wasn't any NEW growth from those who moved to the area from somewhere else. Even if you drive through some of the burbs in the area (i.e. North County), you will have some areas that have lost population and tax base. That is why St. Charles county gained in population. It was a lot of people from North County.
Yeah same also happened to Detroit about 40 years ago. The area north of the Clinton river exploded in the 80s and 90s if you look on Google maps time lapse
Kim Gardner, the recent St. Louis Circuit Attorney, dismissed more than 25 THOUSAND violent crime cases...due to the inability to prosecute them. ONE city attorney had 407 felony trials that they were responsible for.
I moved from Panama City FL and when it comes to things to see and do I love it here! Forest park is amazing and it’s even bigger than Central Park in New York! The park also contains the #1 rated free attraction/zoo in in the country! Then there’s the arch and grounds downtown! There’s tons of positive things here in St Louis. However I’d never settle in St Louis due to the higher than normal racial tensions here.
@@etyrnalizd4603What are you talking about? I was born and raised in STL,have been living in San Antonio Texas since 2011, and as a black woman who is part of the 7% of black population here, I can say that I have never experienced a pinpoint of a fraction of discrimination here in Texas of all places, as I did when living in that city.
I wouldn't recommend that drive at night. Seriously, great video. I worked in north-downtown in the 90's-2000's and it was crazy. if you do another area video, may I suggest one on Times Beach, a small village on the outskirts of St. Louis that became one of the worst environmental disasters in US history.
What I want people who are not from St. Louis to see is that this entire trip is through "North St. Louis". This is code word for ghetto, crime, Black. Anything north of Delmar is "North St. Louis". That's about half the city. My point is I challenge anybody to find the quality and quantity of brick homes that you see on this trip in any other part of the country, particularly in a so-called ghetto. These brick homes would be considered mansions in NYC, or Philly, or LA. The quality of architecture here is magnificent, even in decay. Look at the houses lining Fairground Park. This area is considered stereotypical St. Louis ghetto, yet the houses are outstanding. St. Louis is a rather unique city. A kinda small town feel with big city problems. Yet it has all the amenities that all the big cities have. The school system (grade school and high school) here was once second to none. 31:52 Sumner High School. The first Black High School west of the Mississippi. Separate and approaching equal was a real thing in St. Louis. Black and white people did not mix. The city was strictly segregated. As a kid I didn't even know there was such a thing as schools where Black and white students attended together. This is where I have seen the most drastic changes. Though the schools were segregated during the 70's St. Louis colleges, eastern colleges, and Mizzou loved Black St. Louis graduates, particularly from Sumner, Beaumont, and Vashon and matriculated as many as they could get. (The present St.Louis City comptroller is from Vashon (Class of 73) and graduated from Washington University). The school system was good enough where Black students could more than hold their own with the white students. Also the state university Mizzou would not except Black students until the 70's. 32:34 Homer G. Phillips Hospital (the large yellow brick building on the right, now converted to senior citizen housing) This was the primary hospital for Black people in St. Louis. I would imagine anybody Black, aged 50 or above, born in St. Louis, was probably born at Homer G. St. Louis University and Washington University are two of the finest universities in world. Forest Park is nationally known. Cost of living here, at least for housing, is relatively cheap compared to other cities. Best tap water in the country. You can't really appreciate that fact unless you have lived in another part of the country. Is St. Louis dangerous? Absolutely. But what big city isn't? There is a host of things here in the city that are actually fulfilling and affirming.
Best Tap Water ?!? No. It was awarded Best Tap Water by Industry that supplies the chemicals added to municipal treatment plants. Most chemicals = Best !
@@robertreed7963 Ok. If you say so. I've never been to the west coast but I have lived and traveled extensively over the east coast and south and NONE has had better water than St. Louis. I drank all my water from bottled water until I came back to St. Louis.
All the murders are people who know each other. Even if you're on Natural Bridge going about your business you're safe. Visitors shouldn't be worried. It's alot of hype and bs statistics.
At no point in history and at no point in the future have black children ever held their own against their white counterparts intellectually, in school, or in achievement. Pigs do not fly. It will not be happening. There is no equality. Blame God. lol
Lived in STL all my life. Worked in LE for some time as well. The problems that plague Saint Louis (crime, homeless, drugs, property value, etc.) are the fault of city government officials and all the other public services departments. Terrible public transportation, misusing or blowing the people's taxes, lack of quality public services offered, segregation of neighborhoods from systemic racism, terrible police department, refusal to join the county like any other US city in this country, lack of after school activities, poor infrastructure/roads, poor education system or schools, vacant buildings, outsourcing, lack of incentives for citizens and businesses, high taxes with zero benefits, drug trafficking routes, construction, abandoned property, and terrible enforcement of city codes, housing, and laws. I know that's a lot but it all leads back to our wonderful city government officials. They've done all of this.
If you drive into Chicago’s south and west sides you will also explain that why many media outlets call Chicago “worse than Detroit or Iraq” despite the city being the third largest in the country
Chicago is not sh*t compared st.louis my wife is from that area of Chicago and I been there as well. Try walking down Goodfellow and natural bridge rd in st.louis even during the day and see what happens to you?? A gas station is called murder Mobil. Yes it's exactly what it is. Braud daylight. They simply don't care.
I grew up in St. Louis and haven't been back in many years. I would always go to my grandma's house and have so much fun! Now the city is unrecognizable. I'm not sure if it'll ever come back. So many murders and other crimese. Makes me so sad.
I visited St. Louis last year for the first time. Many neighborhoods looked abandoned or half abandoned. The old Italian area on The Hill looked good though but kind of too quiet and lifeless though. However maybe for a Midwest city, that is normal.
I actually stay downtown St. Louis it’s so sad I remember at least eight years ago it was booming popular party tourist, everything nightlife, and it slowly started to degrade, and I feel like Covid really hit hard and killed everything after that completely downhill homeless people everywhere begging you can’t leave your car parked on the street without fear of you getting broken into and countless numbers of other crimes the tallest building I think that was occupied by AT&T is gone so many hotels are shutting down. It’s so sad and honestly I think the only way that I maintain is because of my profession at the hospital
Some cities have a homicide rate that seems smaller than it should such as Chicago, Indianapolis, Louisville, etc because they include the whole county or most of the county population as there city, where many cities have very small city limit areas just surrounding the core so the rate would be higher than the whole county. Indianapolis and Louisville usually have well over 200 homicides but the rate is lower because of including the whole county population.
Ppl from St. Louis seem to hyperfixate on explaining that St. Louis is really small in land area. Yeah… I know. The city still has a super high crime rate and is declining. The majority of the suburbs are much better on the Missouri side of the region… but the city has loads of issues. Greater St. Louis is also much larger than either Indy or Louisville so neither of those cities accomplished what they wanted to either.
don’t get offensive the thing that ppl don’t learn or get about st. louis is that it seems like we’re super dangerous but when your here and get a feel for the place you’ll see it’s not bad at all and just like any other city. don’t live in the hood, don’t be in the hood late at night, and be smart and enjoy your life. it’s not that deep. i get your statics and stuff but you don’t know nothing abt this city to be talking about a decline. yes the people moved out of some spots but we’re doing just fine over here.
Excellent presentation. I spent the first 20 years of my life (1938-1958), as well as a few years of my adult life, on the north side. The city I grew up in no longer exists, and that makes me sad. I’ve read perhaps a dozen books and countless articles trying to understand the city’s decline. I find no fault with your analysis but I would simply add the point that on the postwar years people were eager to improve their lives, and a house in the suburbs was much more desirable than worker housing built to 19th century standards. “White flight “ suggests this move from the city to the was primarily motivated by race. There was more to it.
Also had the city of St.Louis stayed with the County instead of seceding from the county in 1877 then the city of St.Louis won't be as deadly as it is today.
@Katydid Cause the land are in the city of St.Louis is only 61 Square miles of land, once the city seceded from St.Louis County in 1877 the city of St.Louis could no longer annex land and since then its been fixed once it became an independent city.
I honestly don't blame people who leave or have left to the Burbs, nobody wants to put up with drama that comes with crime. I have never seen it as "White flight" I see it as an escape from the nonsense.
I worked on Kingshighway Boulevard at Central Medical Center (formerly Faith Hospital) back in '77 to '79. After viewing the video I see that not much has changed. I remember houses being "stolen" for the bricks in the neighborhood behind the hospital - overnight folks would tear down a house to steal and resell the bricks. That apparently has changed...lots of abandoned brick buildings now that no one even makes an effort to steal the bricks from.
Stealing the bricks and then reselling them?! What😮? I've never heard about that. Who was buying the bricks? I am from Slovenia so this is very interesting to me.
I find Saint Louis, its architecture, and its present state as if Baltimore and Chicago had a baby and gave it up for adoption to Detroit. After I realized that you went into how Saint Louis was the second biggest automotive manufacturing city in the United States. That explains A LOT.
So much to comment on it would take hours. Regarding auto production, yes, St. Louis used to be #2, with Chrysler, Ford and General Motors all having factories here. My aunt worked at the Corvette plant. Yes, we used to make them here. And my father, brother and uncle all worked at Carter Carburetor. So Chris is correct when he speaks about the parts manufacturers being local also. The Corvettes moved to Kentucky, followed by Carter Carburetor, who opened one plant in Kentucky and one in Mexico from what I was told. My dad got screwed, having one year shy of full pension from Carter. He was offered the opportunity to move to Kentucky, but had no interest in pulling up stakes and heading south. And so he ended up with a paltry sum. I live in the suburbs but routinely visit the city for sports events, Cardinals games and St. Louis City SC games in particular. Many of my friends no longer travel to the city out of fear. They figure it "just isn't worth the risk". How sad is that? I hope for better days, but nothing will get better until there's a major shift in the political machine that holds sway. You'd think more people would wake up. Those who have, moved out.
The city is still fun. There's a lot to do. They've added new attractions too. Whether it was ballpark village some years back or the recent revamped armory building and the foundry across the street. Both are huge places with numerous bars, food, and games. City museum and union Station are unique places to check out as well. Soulard has the 2nd largest mardi gras celebration in the US.
Get your facts straight. The homocides are based only on the population of the City. St Louis has a unique government so there is St Louis City County, and St Louis County. They only compare the homocides to the City population as to the City and County. If you had included the central, south or west side in your video your folks would have seen a whole different city. But that wouldn’t have r fit your agenda.
My grandfather on my dads side is black and he told me that he had saved up $35,000 for a down payment to buy a home in STL back in the 50s (which was extremely hefty back then) and they still wouldn’t sell him a house. He told me that when I was like 15 y/o and I’m 30 y/o now and I STILL haven’t quite wrapped my mind around it. Lol
He could have bought a very nice house for $35,000 cash in the 1950's. You might want to get your facts straight rather than make your grandfather look like a pathetic victim.
Kinda funny... but not really... how all these sites just can't come out and say what they really want to say about what the real (only) reason is for the collapse of all these once wonderful cities. What IS it they all have in common? What common ailment dooms them all? Maybe we should ask the citizens of Chicongo..?
I lived and worked within the city of St. Louis for 6 years. By the grace of God, I was able to get out. Most aren’t though and that Arch being a monument to people who moved on must be some kind of metaphor.
Life isn't fair just doesn't sit well with me anymore...this is one of many examples that demonstrates how unfair it has historically been to some people. Those big brick houses are beautiful, and some that were pictured did appear fairly well maintained, so there are plenty of people who care in those neighborhoods. The small % of criminals are holding the good folks hostage. I don't have any ideas as to the solution, but it has to start with the neighbors who care fighting to take their neighborhoods back
I wasn’t dealt a great hand to start my life with. Life isn’t fair. Everyone has their own set of challenges that they have to overcome. You can only control what you can control. You can’t waste your time worrying about things that you can’t control, such as other people’s decisions. - it’s tough to know what the solution is though isn’t it? I agree that the older homes look nice.
@@ChrisHarden Yes those houses are nice well built brick but they are very old, upkeep cost lots of money. Just because you can't afford upkeep on an 80 or 90 year old home doesn't make you a criminal. Not to mention trying to sell one of these properties. You pointed out the generational problems for these people. (redlining) I don't have any answers either. Sad.
@@stevehall7555 Eventually you'll turn into a criminal when all the fines stack up & you can't pay your property taxes. Then the sheriff will come knocking.
Born and raised in St Louis. I moved away many years ago. However, i still visit. While i know St louis is not the safest. I also know that you chose to venture into areas that no one would consider safe. There are are so many other areas you could have shown, which are rich in architecture, well maintained homes and some forms of diversity. The stats you mention are referring to st louis city i.e North St. Louis. It doesnt include suburbs or surrounding areas. If youre going to tour a city, provide a true picture and not a means to get views.
I’ve shown all of those areas that you’re accusing me of not showing in other videos that I’ve made. 🙃 Not my fault if you don’t seek the positive type of content or if the algorithm doesn’t promote it to you.
St. Louis has some amazing architecture and buildings. Even the run down ones were interesting to look at. I live about an hour south of the city, the politics up there are a nightmare. They ran the city into the ground. Businesses fled and people moved out. Then there were things like Pruitt Igoe. That’s an incredible story in itself. Great video! Except the whole race stuff. You cited stories from a century ago but St. Louis didn’t peak in population and revenue until the 1960s. The slide came in the 70s and 80s when the factories left and the drug war escalated.
Yes, Pruitt Igoe! The federal government's benighted plan for the future: to build immense vertical residential clusters and free up the surrounding horizontal space for common use. Well, the whole area around Pruitt Igoe, consisting of small town houses, was demolished and people forced into the monstrous subsidised housing structure. Crime within it became so bad that barbed wire was put around it and the police wouldn't go in! This happened all over the country. So much for 'do-gooder' federal government urban planners trying to dictate change from afar and from the top.
St. Louis peaked in population around 1950. A lot of blacks came from the south for work during WWII. Blight actually was becoming a problem for the city by 1920 as many poorer families lived in decaying buildings built in the mid-1800s. Many tenements had no indoor plumbing or running water. Pruitt-Igoe was seen as a means to improve the conditions for poor white and black families by the mid-1950s. After desegregation was ordered in 1956, almost all whites fled Pruitt-Igoe. Crime, drugs, prostitution, etc. made the project unsafe. Population density in the project was considered too extreme as well, and residents had no real ownership of their apartments. If HUD had allowed families to own their apartments and govern themselves, better care would probably have resulted. Also, HUD did not adequately maintain the facilities, leading to further decline. It was really a classic example of what not to do with urban poor. The issues for St. Louis are complex obviously. Otherwise, things would have started improving.
Exactly I’ve lived here my whole life that’s 25 years and ever since a kid I was never around the absolutely crazy stuff that doesn’t mean I haven’t heard about it but people really let the news and videos make their mind up for them
The greater st louis suburb area isn't the most dangerous. But the CITY definitely is. And certain areas of the city like Wash U, pay big money to keep the crime reports quiet because there's a ton of crime around there too.
Nice Video! I never understood city taxes when it came to Lambert Airport. It's located in St. Ann I believe, however, is owned by the city so all employees pay that city tax.
An excellent, accurate video but depressing. I grew up in North St. Louis but my family and I moved out when I was ten. Ironically, we moved to Ferguson that was a great place to live until blight and crime ruined it, too.
I am a white female in my late 40’s who has lived in SOUTH St. Louis City my entire life. The city has great things to offer and is one of the most underrated foodie towns out there (we travel a lot). Unfortunately, what you say about North city is true. I simply will just not go there. There are a few nostalgic restaurants just north of the downtown we will go to once or twice a year, (if you get to St. Louis make sure you get to Crown Candy and order a milkshake) but your video is 100% correct. The crime is out of control. The division of our city is real. Looking forward to change and growth!
And I’m rooting for that change and growth! St. Louis has so much more character, culture and history than other similar sized metro areas in the Midwest, like Indianapolis.
As an outsider, I have nothing but good things to say about our several visits to St. Louis. On our first visit we stayed in an RV park right in the middle of the city. We felt totally safe there and the hosts were the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. Went to a Blues hockey game and never felt threatened coming or going. Stayed at the same park again a few years later and it had the same vibe. Discovered Forest Park and were blown away by the size and beauty of it and all there is to do there. Attended a St. Louis Symphony concert, and now understand why it is considered to be one of the premier orchestras in the country. The St. Louis Arch is an architectural masterpiece, and the Cathedral Basilica is amazing. I'm sure if you're looking for trouble you can find it, but the city has so much more to offer.
@@gd5812 St. Louis RV Park. I learned it's permanently closed now, but it was located between N. Jefferson and N. 23rd, just off Martin Luther King Dr. It was across the street from the St.Louis Police Dept.
You obviously didn't grow up here. You come from a very narrow perspective. I'm glad you had good experiences here but the fact is it's very dangerous here. From, an innocent native of St Louis.
All done by design. That's great that you've taken time to point out the negativity in St. Louis, but this like so many other major cities that are now dominantly Black, what are your resolutions? Did you share this with the "Powers that Be" and ask them what are they intending to do to reconcile this? There are so many cities that become abandoned, destitute, and left to die. I think it's part of that "white flight" where those that see a decent place to live and move in with others that don't look like them, are buying into a higher priced home. Then look out the resources, stores, facilities for recreation die down to a low roar. Drugs infest the area due to lack of so many things, parents not "parenting" and teachers not only getting paid like the outside (county) areas which causes them to go outside to teach and lure parents that can afford to move their children out of their neighborhood, thinking that's going to be an improvement. But what it really boils down to is they now have a reason to close down, raze the schools in the city and there's only Charter, Parochial, or some kind of private school, left and your average parent can't afford this. And that Blacks weren't allowed to attend Fairgrounds Park, and they want to let the bears live in a part of it, BEARS! once Blacks had access to the area. I attended a Town Hall meeting at Forest Park Community College in St Louis a few years ago. I asked the then Mayor Lyda Krewson and Chief of Police Hayden and most of the political crew, what was the infrastructural plan for these parts of St. Louis in the next five to ten years. I got zilch! You could have heard a pin drop. One of the reasons is because there is a government facility being finished soon that will hire so… many people. Now, the property will be sold for cheap and those that can afford it will buy it up and revamp it and make it unaffordable for those that are trying to survive. And when you speak of education and the lack of degrees, you can thank good ole president Ronald Reagan just a little bit, the price of education seemed to surge with him. It’s great to bring this to the attention of people, but someone like you needs to attend a Council or Alderman, or Mayoral meeting. They ran for office, now let’s see how much they meant what they said, and mention ACCOUNTABILITY to them and have a meeting for the parents as well. God bless us, EVERYONE!
Facts. It's crazy how the people who run these operations just do it over and over... like using a city snd it's people up for years and years and get away with it...they move onto the next and everybody follows, like it won't happen there too but eventually it will. They don't care how much trauma and hopelessness it causes all these people who put their lives into something just to struggle and feel stressed no matter what. It's not fair.
it is a "run them out, knock it down, rebuild it out of their price range" strat going on. most of those abandoned buildings and empty lots are being sat on by land investors. it is a cycle. they go to the next poorest neighborhood, run it down into the ground, then go to the next... always can tell by which shopping centers die off as to where the next gutter is going to be.
St Louis is an amazing city; I’ve lived in the city for years. Our new soccer team is top of the conference and new businesses are flooding in. Great food, great breweries, great music. The statistics listing it as a murder capital is simply because the county is not including in those statistics which skews the data in a deceptive way. Hope to see y’all here some day.
I was born here in 1957 and unfortunately still live here today. This city was a crime-ridden piece of crap back then and is a crime-ridden piece of crap today. I tried moving downtown and now that's totally crime-ridden with murders occurring almost on a daily basis.
I live in a suburb of St. Louis. I haven't been to the city in several years. I completely stopped going to Cardinal's games. The metrolink isn't safe, the parking garages aren't safe, and I drive a Hyundai. A new one, with the interlocks, but the punks don't know that.
New Kia and Hyundai models with the push button start (that isn't easily stolen) still get hit with higher insurance costs even though they're not the ones being stolen. Insurance companies just lump them all together.
I literally moved to stl from mobile[second on the list]. Both felt safe to me and both have very different government. You can blame democrats if you want like a typical trumpanzee but I have no issues
Are you not listening to this presentation? He’s pointed out the most important factors and not one time did he say “Democrats are the reason blah blah blah…” Besides, this is a REPUBLICAN RUN STATE!!!!! It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Democrat or Republicans but RACISM AND BAD LEADERSHIP ALL TOGETHER! The system is built on RACISM. That’s what’s destroying this country’s cities! CRT IS EXTREMELY NECESSARY IN SCHOOLS SO THAT FUTURE CHILDREN CAN START UNDOING THIS FCKED UP SHT SHOW THAT’S BEING DRAGGED OUT BY RACISM AND OPPRESSION!
I moved from Texas to St. Louis, due to a work transfer, and lived there for almost 15 years. Looking back I realized it was on the downward turn, but I still enjoyed it. My mom was from there and I remember the train rides from Texas to Union Station then a meal at a big city diner before heading to grandma's a few blocks away from Tower Grove Park. It sounds like St. Louis as a city, sadly, has gone the way of many once bustling boom towns of Texas and the west. I'm back in my native Texas now and retired. I consider myself fortunate to have experienced both, even as they were in the sunsets of an amazing historic era.
@ bren7883: Please explain what you mean. I have been to That city many times. I have a brother living there and most of what I have read is TRUE! It's a crime ridden city and the people are terrible when it comes to treating each other with respect. Your crime stays don't lie. These are documented facts by the govt statistics.
St Louis is a city of duplexes, it seems.....unlike Detroit, which was mostly single-family homes. The blighted sections of St Louis don't seem nearly as run-down as the most blighted sections of Detroit. It actually seems much cleaner litter-wise, there's less street trash, fewer burned out houses and fewer boarded-up properties. There also appears to be far fewer streets and boulevards with commercial establishments in proximity to residential areas. I'm fascinated by the architecture of these neighborhoods.....yellow brick is, by far, the most common construction material, while Detroit is a red brick city. The homes in St Louis have mostly flat roofs, obviously due to it's more hospitable climate.
I was born and raised in Florida my family and parents are from St. Louis, i moved there by myself when i was 17 to escape toxic family... I loved the culture, the people, the changing seasons... I unfortunately went through a bunch of hard circumstances from 17 to 21 which is the age i am now and currently living with toxic family again and struggling finding happiness for the first time ever, but I really love what you said at the end about you can change your life around even in a bad environment... you have shown me hope and brought me out of my negative thoughts
I live on the north side. I have been here 5 years and my neighbors are great and crime has not been an issue for me. I think the new police chief and city prosecutor are going to make some difference, maybe you should also adress that STLcity which has 300k people is statistically separate from the other 2.7 mil people that live in the suburbs so that drives a lot of the FBI crime data..
Why would the new chief and prosecutor need to make a difference if you are already in the worst area and your neighbors are great and crime is not an issue?
Here in Canada the city I live in hasn’t seen 200 murders in 20 years and that’s in a city of 1.5 million people much bigger than some of these cities!
St. Louis on the north side is bad. Very bad. South down around Lemay, Olive, affton etc in the county is a lot safer. Good rule of thumb is if it's a street named after a state you stay outta there if you value yourself.
Hmmm...well let's see why , downtown much money wasted redoing downtown while construction contracts go to the same racists company's pockets , the never ending construction on the south side while the black communities get none of this , the north side has been in neglect for decades . Yes tour st. Louis see where the money goes.
Another great video, Chris . I Live in St . Louis . Some areas like the one I am in are just fine . it's Like Mayberry in my Hood . They don't show as much of this here in town . The local news makes small mention of it but we here it on the Police scanner . a lot of folks have to go pay they're Sewer bill via Money order in that area once every 90 days too . Not all of St . Louis is like this though , there are areas that are much safer .
After the unconstitutional 'fair housing act' of 1965 which took away from you the right to sell or rent YOUR OWN PROPERTY to whomever you wished... we saw the final 'ethnic cleansing' of the old German, Jewish, Polish and other neighborhoods of St. Louis with their venerable churches and rich social organization. Many had left for the suburbs but the ethnic traditional neighborhoods were truly destroyed at that time. The post war 880,000 population of the city is now something like 290,000. The 'liberals' even leveled the black Mill Creek neighborhood and to this day NOTHING is in its place. For decades now 'urban pioneers' have struggled to revive the once beautiful old neighborhoods such as Tower Grove, Lafayette Park, Soulard etc. but crime is driving them away. Only the Italians on 'the hill' in St. Louis managed to keep their ethnic enclave fairly intact by passing their houses on through families.
Unfortunately this is extremely misleading for the vast majority of the St Louis area. St Louis City is an independent city unlike most cities/counties in the country. St Louis City and St Louis County have been completely separate entities since the city succeeded from the county in the late 1870s. The city has around 300k population, 79 neighborhoods, and most of the crime is isolated into a handful of those neighborhoods. When lists discuss the most dangerous, St Louis CITY is often near the top. When lists discuss the best places to live, many of those lists contain some of the 88 municipalities, 91 special districts, and 23 school districts in St Louis COUNTY. In all but crime data, the combined ~3mil population is used for most other statistics (population, TV market, Radio market, etc). When you combine the City with the County crime stats, St Louis is statistically a very safe city in crimes per capita
The issue is that democrat mayors don’t care about safety or crime and democrats keep electing incompetent people. While St. Louis has lost population, the st Louis metro has held steady or grown slightly. Everyone just left the crime ridden ignorant city into the suburbs. The problem is the rot is spreading. From st Louis city to north county and then south county. West county is making a stand against ignorant St. Louis.
Born and raised in STL, living in San Antonio, TX now for 12 years and I would NEVER move back. There are some very cool things to do, see, and eat there but nowadays, I would only visit to partake. I am not exaggerating when I say that I do not know ONE friend or family member who still lives there who doesn't want to leave.
Part of my family is from the north side St. Louis and I worked on North side at crown candy kitchen until i was 19. My dad almost bought a little house in in Hyde Park neighborhood back in the 90's. People look at me like I'm crazy when I say that if I move back to St Louis, I would move to the city, not the county. My daughter is the same way, but she had a place on the south side before in Benton Park neighborhood
Ya, Honey. You are in North St. Louis. Nobody really lives up there anymore. That is really a very poor neighborhood. Try finding a decline in Ladue. That IS NOT the city of St Louis. You are cherry-picking.
Detroit is larger in land area than Saint Louis. Detroit is 138.73 square miles, Saint Louis is only 61.72 square Miles. At least Saint Louis doesn't have the arson problem that Detroit does.
Another reason Detroit is wayyyyyyy bigger than the city of St.Louis is because Detroit is in a County (Wayne County Michigan) while the city of St.Louis is a independent city.
The arson problem in Detroit was much bigger in the 1970s to 1990s. Since the 2000s it has been declining. Still an issue, and still a higher rate than many other big cities, but not like before. Lots of things about Detroit have improved in the last 20 years.
"crime has always been a result of economic decline" LOL. Always excusing bad behavior. Millions of people around the U.S. are poor and don't commit crimes. Millions. Keep making excuses for bad behavior, blame somebody else. It's never the criminals fault guyz.
Correlation does not equal causation. Claiming detroit has been passed on these random “crime lists” due to redirecting funds is silly as hell. Grow up.
I have lived in the KC MO area for over 40 years. KC and St. Louis have the same problem, and now it is worse since the government of both is make up of the same population as the citizens left. There is not real focus on preventing criminal activity, just how to let the offenders get out without bail, so they can repeat. The tragedy at the Chiefs Super Bowl victory shows what the population is. Missouri is a great state except for St. Louis and KC
To address crime, the city has to arrest, convict and punish offenders. Kim Gardner wasn't a DA who would even consider following a rational course of action, and this only helped to accelerate the city's decline. Education is important to overcome gang culture, but we have a government quite satisfied with dumbing down the population in general as well as lowering educational expectations. St. Louis' ghetto won't improve until knowledge is considered important. Further, rewarding people with incentives not to work is counterproductive and culturally catastrophic. Generational reliance on welfare is pandemic in St. Louis. Black nuclear families are far too unique as government policies encourage a man not to be in the household. JOBS are the best social welfare! Since St. Louis has lost so much industry, it will be nearly impossible to break the generational cycle which has permeated government thinking the past 70 years. Handouts don't make for self-respect and self-reliance. For St. Louis to survive as a functional and self-sustaining city, it must convince St. Louis County to allow it to rejoin. St. Louis County is now suffering from many of the same problems the city has: crime, gangs, drugs, white flight, blight, etc. But the county has far more resources to help the entire metropolitan area improve. The city has simply lost too much tax base to stay afloat. Obviously, doing what the city's government has been doing isn't going to work. Try something different. A simple place to start would be for the city to allow police officers to live in St. Louis County. The applicant pool would be much greater and the candidates more qualified and robust. Corruption might be reduced and respect regained. It might be a lead example of how the city and county can work together and head towards reconciliation after about a 150 year separation
I grew up on the North side! The biggest problem is the crime! That's not on redlining or discrimination, it's on the PARENTS! They wouldn't keep the children from skipping school or stealing things that didn't belong to them! Let them do whatever they wanted and didn't teach them that there are consequences for everything you do! That's why the area is so bad! If they took care of their houses it would still be a beautiful area!
Fred you are so right. People never ask why white people don’t want to live with black people. They just name call… your a racist if you talk about the race problem. Therefore no common understanding.
St Louis has a huge racial divide and the St Louis news TV stations radio stations too are guilty of stroking the ambers . As a native St Louis guy growing up on the South side of the city Cherokee Street and Ohio we were told never ever go to the North side of the city. Today in 2024 the South side , the North side, the Central Corridor & that notorious East St Louis Illinois looks the same it's one big mess. Dexter Lombardo 🤠 lives in Creve Coeur
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That was freaking me out! I wondered if I lost a few months! Thanks for the video, I am hoping that places like St. Louis have a resurgence.
@@Ryanc267 Time travel is real now in 2023 haven’t you heard? Haha.
Awww darn. I thought this was from the future 😂
Probably close to 10 years ago we were driving through and thought we would stop at the Chuck e cheese in St Charles Missouri before you crossed the Missouri River entry into the realm of St Louis. They had the standard safety notices. No gun fighting no knife fighting no fist fighting and more along that line. That was posted in the kids play area! We didn't stay. We just kept on her trip and as we swung through what you would call South county stop for a pizza there. Exited the state on a way to probably Tennessee or maybe Kentucky.
Those dirty pig police sucked when they were funded and when they were defunded. I grew up in STL, I KNOW. Sometimes when we called them, they never even showed up.
As a former resident of both North St Louis and South St louis, I can honestly say that diversity is NOT our greatest strength!
Yep.
It’s not at all we are very segregated here
I agree
Defunding is removing guns & replace those funds into programs for citizens this way armed unstable sinners with guns ready to kill out of fake fear & more exercising power with deadly force. Manipulating removing guns as to getting rid of public patrolling! Public patrolling not private gunmen.
Delmar divide doing numbers
Kinda hard to ignore the many fine, well built buildings shown in the back ground.
Old folks will tell you, St. Louis has LOST more beautiful architecture than most places ever had. I wish I could go back in time and see it all...
Are you kidding, did they have no other building material than red brick??
I think the Irish were red lined in the city back then also.
I lived in both south city and north side by Goodfellow for 14 years and loved, it’s not that bad , all you have to have in you is street smart and common sense. Now I lived in La Jolla in San Diego and I can say that St Louis has more character and I will move back to STL in a flash.
I Live in St. Louis. Some areas you have to just not go into. So
many murders. So Sad. 💔
Very sad indeed
Lol I'm sure your experience is based in fear. Clearly you have no real connection to stl. I've lived here my entire life and I'd disagree with your take.
@@williedeboise5182 That's not far off. I have lived in Missouri all my life for 30 years and I have been to St louis at least 12 times don't know exact number. I try to avoid it but I don't think i've ever been to the downtown area without seeing people beating the shit out of each other at least twice each pass through. Face it St Louis has problems. Especially downtown. Kansas city wasn't nowhere near that bad. But it's getting a bit worse it feels like to. It's not fear it really is that bad. I'll take Kansas city trip any day over St. Louis. I don't have anything against the people or places. Most I meet are fine. But the crime? Yeah. It's bad.
@@flashkirby101 "people beating the shit out of each other at least twice each pass through" You're full of shit. I've lived here for 31 years and literally laughed out loud at this comment.
@@Wakkoh420black people ruining everything lmao
The St. Louis area is SHIFTING in population, not really growing. A vast majority of the people who live in St. Charles County migrated from other areas around the metro. So technically, there wasn't any NEW growth from those who moved to the area from somewhere else. Even if you drive through some of the burbs in the area (i.e. North County), you will have some areas that have lost population and tax base. That is why St. Charles county gained in population. It was a lot of people from North County.
Yeah same also happened to Detroit about 40 years ago. The area north of the Clinton river exploded in the 80s and 90s if you look on Google maps time lapse
From metro Milwaukee, visited St. Louis spring break with family. Stayed in st Charles. What a charming small city. Highly recommended
Kim Gardner, the recent St. Louis Circuit Attorney, dismissed more than 25 THOUSAND violent crime cases...due to the inability to prosecute them. ONE city attorney had 407 felony trials that they were responsible for.
Luckily Kim Garner has resigned so hopefully the city will improve but it will take a very long time.
@@CJColvinyes but doesn’t mean the replacement will. E any better.
Plus the attorneys that left probably can’t be lured back
@@shawnmiller4781 You make a very good point. It is very possible that they will elect someone worse. I'm out in the suburbs, watching it all implode.
@@davidcox3076 You are in the suburbs huh?
@@chriscomer7500what does that have to do with anything?
I moved from Panama City FL and when it comes to things to see and do I love it here! Forest park is amazing and it’s even bigger than Central Park in New York! The park also contains the #1 rated free attraction/zoo in in the country! Then there’s the arch and grounds downtown! There’s tons of positive things here in St Louis. However I’d never settle in St Louis due to the higher than normal racial tensions here.
What racial tension
@@etyrnalizd4603What are you talking about? I was born and raised in STL,have been living in San Antonio Texas since 2011, and as a black woman who is part of the 7% of black population here, I can say that I have never experienced a pinpoint of a fraction of discrimination here in Texas of all places, as I did when living in that city.
I wouldn't recommend that drive at night. Seriously, great video. I worked in north-downtown in the 90's-2000's and it was crazy. if you do another area video, may I suggest one on Times Beach, a small village on the outskirts of St. Louis that became one of the worst environmental disasters in US history.
times beach....love canal.
literally buried history
Great message at the end, Chris. We can choose what we do, even if our environment is not ideal.
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What I want people who are not from St. Louis to see is that this entire trip is through "North St. Louis". This is code word for ghetto, crime, Black. Anything north of Delmar is "North St. Louis". That's about half the city. My point is I challenge anybody to find the quality and quantity of brick homes that you see on this trip in any other part of the country, particularly in a so-called ghetto. These brick homes would be considered mansions in NYC, or Philly, or LA. The quality of architecture here is magnificent, even in decay. Look at the houses lining Fairground Park. This area is considered stereotypical St. Louis ghetto, yet the houses are outstanding. St. Louis is a rather unique city. A kinda small town feel with big city problems. Yet it has all the amenities that all the big cities have.
The school system (grade school and high school) here was once second to none.
31:52 Sumner High School. The first Black High School west of the Mississippi. Separate and approaching equal was a real thing in St. Louis. Black and white people did not mix. The city was strictly segregated. As a kid I didn't even know there was such a thing as schools where Black and white students attended together. This is where I have seen the most drastic changes. Though the schools were segregated during the 70's St. Louis colleges, eastern colleges, and Mizzou loved Black St. Louis graduates, particularly from Sumner, Beaumont, and Vashon and matriculated as many as they could get. (The present St.Louis City comptroller is from Vashon (Class of 73) and graduated from Washington University). The school system was good enough where Black students could more than hold their own with the white students. Also the state university Mizzou would not except Black students until the 70's.
32:34 Homer G. Phillips Hospital (the large yellow brick building on the right, now converted to senior citizen housing) This was the primary hospital for Black people in St. Louis. I would imagine anybody Black, aged 50 or above, born in St. Louis, was probably born at Homer G.
St. Louis University and Washington University are two of the finest universities in world. Forest Park is nationally known. Cost of living here, at least for housing, is relatively cheap compared to other cities. Best tap water in the country. You can't really appreciate that fact unless you have lived in another part of the country. Is St. Louis dangerous? Absolutely. But what big city isn't? There is a host of things here in the city that are actually fulfilling and affirming.
Well said!🙌🏽🤌🏽
Best Tap Water ?!? No. It was awarded Best Tap Water by Industry that supplies the chemicals added to municipal treatment plants.
Most chemicals = Best !
@@robertreed7963 Ok. If you say so. I've never been to the west coast but I have lived and traveled extensively over the east coast and south and NONE has had better water than St. Louis. I drank all my water from bottled water until I came back to St. Louis.
All the murders are people who know each other. Even if you're on Natural Bridge going about your business you're safe. Visitors shouldn't be worried. It's alot of hype and bs statistics.
At no point in history and at no point in the future have black children ever held their own against their white counterparts intellectually, in school, or in achievement. Pigs do not fly. It will not be happening. There is no equality. Blame God. lol
Lived in STL all my life. Worked in LE for some time as well. The problems that plague Saint Louis (crime, homeless, drugs, property value, etc.) are the fault of city government officials and all the other public services departments. Terrible public transportation, misusing or blowing the people's taxes, lack of quality public services offered, segregation of neighborhoods from systemic racism, terrible police department, refusal to join the county like any other US city in this country, lack of after school activities, poor infrastructure/roads, poor education system or schools, vacant buildings, outsourcing, lack of incentives for citizens and businesses, high taxes with zero benefits, drug trafficking routes, construction, abandoned property, and terrible enforcement of city codes, housing, and laws. I know that's a lot but it all leads back to our wonderful city government officials. They've done all of this.
Single mothers and matriachal culture.
Systemic racism? please explain.
Yeah absent and/or useless dads have been a tremendous issue. The jig is up.@hitek9too255
If you drive into Chicago’s south and west sides you will also explain that why many media outlets call Chicago “worse than Detroit or Iraq” despite the city being the third largest in the country
Why is it so?
Not sure how stl beats Chicago for murders
@@kittymama9800🤔
Chicago is not sh*t compared st.louis my wife is from that area of Chicago and I been there as well. Try walking down Goodfellow and natural bridge rd in st.louis even during the day and see what happens to you?? A gas station is called murder Mobil. Yes it's exactly what it is. Braud daylight. They simply don't care.
Cool story bro but we’re talking about St.Louis right now
St Louis has architecture like no other
It is unique. I see the buildings and automatically recognize it as St. Louis.
I grew up in St. Louis and haven't been back in many years. I would always go to my grandma's house and have so much fun! Now the city is unrecognizable. I'm not sure if it'll ever come back. So many murders and other crimese. Makes me so sad.
Same. Hazelwood High. We left in 77 but I remember St. Louis with nothing but love in my heart.
I visited St. Louis last year for the first time. Many neighborhoods looked abandoned or half abandoned. The old Italian area on The Hill looked good though but kind of too quiet and lifeless though. However maybe for a Midwest city, that is normal.
@@ramencurry6672the hill is awesome
I actually stay downtown St. Louis it’s so sad I remember at least eight years ago it was booming popular party tourist, everything nightlife, and it slowly started to degrade, and I feel like Covid really hit hard and killed everything after that completely downhill homeless people everywhere begging you can’t leave your car parked on the street without fear of you getting broken into and countless numbers of other crimes the tallest building I think that was occupied by AT&T is gone so many hotels are shutting down. It’s so sad and honestly I think the only way that I maintain is because of my profession at the hospital
yeah it sounds like you vivint. some peace of mind
Some cities have a homicide rate that seems smaller than it should such as Chicago, Indianapolis, Louisville, etc because they include the whole county or most of the county population as there city, where many cities have very small city limit areas just surrounding the core so the rate would be higher than the whole county. Indianapolis and Louisville usually have well over 200 homicides but the rate is lower because of including the whole county population.
Ppl from St. Louis seem to hyperfixate on explaining that St. Louis is really small in land area.
Yeah… I know. The city still has a super high crime rate and is declining. The majority of the suburbs are much better on the Missouri side of the region… but the city has loads of issues.
Greater St. Louis is also much larger than either Indy or Louisville so neither of those cities accomplished what they wanted to either.
don’t get offensive the thing that ppl don’t learn or get about st. louis is that it seems like we’re super dangerous but when your here and get a feel for the place you’ll see it’s not bad at all and just like any other city. don’t live in the hood, don’t be in the hood late at night, and be smart and enjoy your life. it’s not that deep. i get your statics and stuff but you don’t know nothing abt this city to be talking about a decline. yes the people moved out of some spots but we’re doing just fine over here.
Excellent presentation. I spent the first 20 years of my life (1938-1958), as well as a few years of my adult life, on the north side. The city I grew up in no longer exists, and that makes me sad. I’ve read perhaps a dozen books and countless articles trying to understand the city’s decline. I find no fault with your analysis but I would simply add the point that on the postwar years people were eager to improve their lives, and a house in the suburbs was much more desirable than worker housing built to 19th century standards. “White flight “ suggests this move from the city to the was primarily motivated by race. There was more to it.
Also had the city of St.Louis stayed with the County instead of seceding from the county in 1877 then the city of St.Louis won't be as deadly as it is today.
@@CJColvin How would crime in the city be effected by having St Louis Co attached?
@Katydid Cause the land are in the city of St.Louis is only 61 Square miles of land, once the city seceded from St.Louis County in 1877 the city of St.Louis could no longer annex land and since then its been fixed once it became an independent city.
I honestly don't blame people who leave or have left to the Burbs, nobody wants to put up with drama that comes with crime. I have never seen it as "White flight" I see it as an escape from the nonsense.
@@cflo1386 Exactly mate
I worked on Kingshighway Boulevard at Central Medical Center (formerly Faith Hospital) back in '77 to '79. After viewing the video I see that not much has changed. I remember houses being "stolen" for the bricks in the neighborhood behind the hospital - overnight folks would tear down a house to steal and resell the bricks. That apparently has changed...lots of abandoned brick buildings now that no one even makes an effort to steal the bricks from.
Stealing the bricks and then reselling them?! What😮? I've never heard about that. Who was buying the bricks?
I am from Slovenia so this is very interesting to me.
@@Bojan_V Now they steal the copper wire instead of bricks.
not true st louisian here and nobody does that tf?
@@thegorgeousgamer9830 They did steal bricks and now its anything with copper
They still steal bricks and sell them to other US cities. Contractors buy them.
I find Saint Louis, its architecture, and its present state as if Baltimore and Chicago had a baby and gave it up for adoption to Detroit.
After I realized that you went into how Saint Louis was the second biggest automotive manufacturing city in the United States. That explains A LOT.
saint louis isnt bad i live in it and the weathers good, we rarely get tornados and we have good houses
@@cloudyonytpt1county or city?
@@jonathanielpringlemaniii county
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So much to comment on it would take hours. Regarding auto production, yes, St. Louis used to be #2, with Chrysler, Ford and General Motors all having factories here. My aunt worked at the Corvette plant. Yes, we used to make them here. And my father, brother and uncle all worked at Carter Carburetor. So Chris is correct when he speaks about the parts manufacturers being local also. The Corvettes moved to Kentucky, followed by Carter Carburetor, who opened one plant in Kentucky and one in Mexico from what I was told. My dad got screwed, having one year shy of full pension from Carter. He was offered the opportunity to move to Kentucky, but had no interest in pulling up stakes and heading south. And so he ended up with a paltry sum.
I live in the suburbs but routinely visit the city for sports events, Cardinals games and St. Louis City SC games in particular. Many of my friends no longer travel to the city out of fear. They figure it "just isn't worth the risk". How sad is that? I hope for better days, but nothing will get better until there's a major shift in the political machine that holds sway. You'd think more people would wake up. Those who have, moved out.
i worked at the corvette plant and also my sister-inlaw worked at carter carb plant...
The city is still fun. There's a lot to do. They've added new attractions too. Whether it was ballpark village some years back or the recent revamped armory building and the foundry across the street. Both are huge places with numerous bars, food, and games.
City museum and union Station are unique places to check out as well.
Soulard has the 2nd largest mardi gras celebration in the US.
Man this city ain't shyt but a death trap so you can say what you want but it's not good at all that's why alot of people are leaving
That's so vehemently subjective.
You got it! I like STL. There are some boring cities, and STL is not one of them.
Get your facts straight. The homocides are based only on the population of the City. St Louis has a unique government so there is St Louis City County, and St Louis County. They only compare the homocides to the City population as to the City and County. If you had included the central, south or west side in your video your folks would have seen a whole different city. But that wouldn’t have r fit your agenda.
My grandfather on my dads side is black and he told me that he had saved up $35,000 for a down payment to buy a home in STL back in the 50s (which was extremely hefty back then) and they still wouldn’t sell him a house. He told me that when I was like 15 y/o and I’m 30 y/o now and I STILL haven’t quite wrapped my mind around it. Lol
He could have bought a very nice house for $35,000 cash in the 1950's.
You might want to get your facts straight rather than make your grandfather look like a pathetic victim.
Kinda funny... but not really... how all these sites just can't come out and say what they really want to say about what the real (only) reason is for the collapse of all these once wonderful cities. What IS it they all have in common? What common ailment dooms them all?
Maybe we should ask the citizens of Chicongo..?
I lived and worked within the city of St. Louis for 6 years. By the grace of God, I was able to get out. Most aren’t though and that Arch being a monument to people who moved on must be some kind of metaphor.
If you do anymore videos in st.louis you should go to Walnut Park. That is one of if not the worst. But be careful.
Life isn't fair just doesn't sit well with me anymore...this is one of many examples that demonstrates how unfair it has historically been to some people. Those big brick houses are beautiful, and some that were pictured did appear fairly well maintained, so there are plenty of people who care in those neighborhoods. The small % of criminals are holding the good folks hostage. I don't have any ideas as to the solution, but it has to start with the neighbors who care fighting to take their neighborhoods back
I wasn’t dealt a great hand to start my life with. Life isn’t fair. Everyone has their own set of challenges that they have to overcome. You can only control what you can control. You can’t waste your time worrying about things that you can’t control, such as other people’s decisions.
- it’s tough to know what the solution is though isn’t it? I agree that the older homes look nice.
@@ChrisHarden Yes those houses are nice well built brick but they are very old, upkeep cost lots of money. Just because you can't afford upkeep on an 80 or 90 year old home doesn't make you a criminal. Not to mention trying to sell one of these properties. You pointed out the generational problems for these people. (redlining) I don't have any answers either. Sad.
@@stevehall7555 Never said they were criminals because they couldn’t afford the upkeep on an old home.
@@stevehall7555 Eventually you'll turn into a criminal when all the fines stack up & you can't pay your property taxes. Then the sheriff will come knocking.
@@ChrisHarden No the person you responded to did. No offense intended.
Well done but very sad for someone like me who worked and lived in the city and county in the 70's 80's and 90's. 🙁
I live in StLouis city. If you have reason to be here. Dont be here. Cant say much more. Progressive government
Born and raised in St Louis. I moved away many years ago. However, i still visit. While i know St louis is not the safest. I also know that you chose to venture into areas that no one would consider safe. There are are so many other areas you could have shown, which are rich in architecture, well maintained homes and some forms of diversity. The stats you mention are referring to st louis city i.e North St. Louis. It doesnt include suburbs or surrounding areas. If youre going to tour a city, provide a true picture and not a means to get views.
I’ve shown all of those areas that you’re accusing me of not showing in other videos that I’ve made. 🙃
Not my fault if you don’t seek the positive type of content or if the algorithm doesn’t promote it to you.
When this Swede hears about St. Louis he thinks about Ragtime.
St. Louis has some amazing architecture and buildings. Even the run down ones were interesting to look at. I live about an hour south of the city, the politics up there are a nightmare. They ran the city into the ground. Businesses fled and people moved out. Then there were things like Pruitt Igoe. That’s an incredible story in itself. Great video! Except the whole race stuff. You cited stories from a century ago but St. Louis didn’t peak in population and revenue until the 1960s. The slide came in the 70s and 80s when the factories left and the drug war escalated.
Yes, Pruitt Igoe! The federal government's benighted plan for the future: to build immense vertical residential clusters and free up the surrounding horizontal space for common use. Well, the whole area around Pruitt Igoe, consisting of small town houses, was demolished and people forced into the monstrous subsidised housing structure. Crime within it became so bad that barbed wire was put around it and the police wouldn't go in! This happened all over the country. So much for 'do-gooder' federal government urban planners trying to dictate change from afar and from the top.
St. Louis peaked in population around 1950. A lot of blacks came from the south for work during WWII. Blight actually was becoming a problem for the city by 1920 as many poorer families lived in decaying buildings built in the mid-1800s. Many tenements had no indoor plumbing or running water. Pruitt-Igoe was seen as a means to improve the conditions for poor white and black families by the mid-1950s. After desegregation was ordered in 1956, almost all whites fled Pruitt-Igoe. Crime, drugs, prostitution, etc. made the project unsafe. Population density in the project was considered too extreme as well, and residents had no real ownership of their apartments. If HUD had allowed families to own their apartments and govern themselves, better care would probably have resulted. Also, HUD did not adequately maintain the facilities, leading to further decline. It was really a classic example of what not to do with urban poor. The issues for St. Louis are complex obviously. Otherwise, things would have started improving.
People like me who actually live in St. Louis know it isn't the most dangerous city in the country.
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It is tho
Exactly I’ve lived here my whole life that’s 25 years and ever since a kid I was never around the absolutely crazy stuff that doesn’t mean I haven’t heard about it but people really let the news and videos make their mind up for them
Right everywhere is bad
The greater st louis suburb area isn't the most dangerous. But the CITY definitely is. And certain areas of the city like Wash U, pay big money to keep the crime reports quiet because there's a ton of crime around there too.
Nice Video! I never understood city taxes when it came to Lambert Airport. It's located in St. Ann I believe, however, is owned by the city so all employees pay that city tax.
An excellent, accurate video but depressing. I grew up in North St. Louis but my family and I moved out when I was ten. Ironically, we moved to Ferguson that was a great place to live until blight and crime ruined it, too.
Same thing my family did as well. Then across "the bridge." in the 70s.
One word Democrat
Our shop is off Washington ave the old moon car plant.
Nobody is going to build a business amongst all the crime. The crime is why everyone left. Lets not pretend it's anything else.
I am a white female in my late 40’s who has lived in SOUTH St. Louis City my entire life. The city has great things to offer and is one of the most underrated foodie towns out there (we travel a lot). Unfortunately, what you say about North city is true. I simply will just not go there. There are a few nostalgic restaurants just north of the downtown we will go to once or twice a year, (if you get to St. Louis make sure you get to Crown Candy and order a milkshake) but your video is 100% correct. The crime is out of control. The division of our city is real. Looking forward to change and growth!
And I’m rooting for that change and growth! St. Louis has so much more character, culture and history than other similar sized metro areas in the Midwest, like Indianapolis.
my younger sister worked at crown candy when she was 14 years old...
i graduated from jackson grade school in 1953
Funny that people who grew up in North St. Louis wouldn’t go to the south side at all, not even for allegedly good restaurants.
@@ael5629Probably because they didn't feel welcomed there!
Another great video, Chris! I am really enjoying your St. Louis series. Thank you!
As an outsider, I have nothing but good things to say about our several visits to St. Louis. On our first visit we stayed in an RV park right in the middle of the city. We felt totally safe there and the hosts were the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. Went to a Blues hockey game and never felt threatened coming or going. Stayed at the same park again a few years later and it had the same vibe. Discovered Forest Park and were blown away by the size and beauty of it and all there is to do there. Attended a St. Louis Symphony concert, and now understand why it is considered to be one of the premier orchestras in the country. The St. Louis Arch is an architectural masterpiece, and the Cathedral Basilica is amazing. I'm sure if you're looking for trouble you can find it, but the city has so much more to offer.
What RV park is in the middle of the city???
@@gd5812 St. Louis RV Park. I learned it's permanently closed now, but it was located between N. Jefferson and N. 23rd, just off Martin Luther King Dr. It was across the street from the St.Louis Police Dept.
I felt the same way. It was safe when we were there.
@@philipjohnson2652 wow totally forgot that place even existed! They’re turning/turned that old lot into a new tiny home community
You obviously didn't grow up here. You come from a very narrow perspective. I'm glad you had good experiences here but the fact is it's very dangerous here. From, an innocent native of St Louis.
All done by design. That's great that you've taken time to point out the negativity in St. Louis, but this like so many other major cities that are now dominantly Black, what are your resolutions? Did you share this with the "Powers that Be" and ask them what are they intending to do to reconcile this? There are so many cities that become abandoned, destitute, and left to die. I think it's part of that "white flight" where those that see a decent place to live and move in with others that don't look like them, are buying into a higher priced home. Then look out the resources, stores, facilities for recreation die down to a low roar. Drugs infest the area due to lack of so many things, parents not "parenting" and teachers not only getting paid like the outside (county) areas which causes them to go outside to teach and lure parents that can afford to move their children out of their neighborhood, thinking that's going to be an improvement. But what it really boils down to is they now have a reason to close down, raze the schools in the city and there's only Charter, Parochial, or some kind of private school, left and your average parent can't afford this. And that Blacks weren't allowed to attend Fairgrounds Park, and they want to let the bears live in a part of it, BEARS! once Blacks had access to the area.
I attended a Town Hall meeting at Forest Park Community College in St Louis a few years ago. I asked the then Mayor Lyda Krewson and Chief of Police Hayden and most of the political crew, what was the infrastructural plan for these parts of St. Louis in the next five to ten years. I got zilch! You could have heard a pin drop. One of the reasons is because there is a government facility being finished soon that will hire so… many people. Now, the property will be sold for cheap and those that can afford it will buy it up and revamp it and make it unaffordable for those that are trying to survive. And when you speak of education and the lack of degrees, you can thank good ole president Ronald Reagan just a little bit, the price of education seemed to surge with him. It’s great to bring this to the attention of people, but someone like you needs to attend a Council or Alderman, or Mayoral meeting. They ran for office, now let’s see how much they meant what they said, and mention ACCOUNTABILITY to them and have a meeting for the parents as well. God bless us, EVERYONE!
Facts. It's crazy how the people who run these operations just do it over and over... like using a city snd it's people up for years and years and get away with it...they move onto the next and everybody follows, like it won't happen there too but eventually it will. They don't care how much trauma and hopelessness it causes all these people who put their lives into something just to struggle and feel stressed no matter what. It's not fair.
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keep voting democrat you're gonna keep getting the same thing for decades.
Hey it looks like it's getting dark you better get the hell out of there
it is a "run them out, knock it down, rebuild it out of their price range" strat going on. most of those abandoned buildings and empty lots are being sat on by land investors. it is a cycle. they go to the next poorest neighborhood, run it down into the ground, then go to the next... always can tell by which shopping centers die off as to where the next gutter is going to be.
Now that Kim Gardner is gone I hope things change. Gotta get rid of the Mayor too.
St Louis is an amazing city; I’ve lived in the city for years. Our new soccer team is top of the conference and new businesses are flooding in. Great food, great breweries, great music. The statistics listing it as a murder capital is simply because the county is not including in those statistics which skews the data in a deceptive way. Hope to see y’all here some day.
I was born here in 1957 and unfortunately still live here today. This city was a crime-ridden piece of crap back then and is a crime-ridden piece of crap today. I tried moving downtown and now that's totally crime-ridden with murders occurring almost on a daily basis.
I live in a suburb of St. Louis. I haven't been to the city in several years. I completely stopped going to Cardinal's games. The metrolink isn't safe, the parking garages aren't safe, and I drive a Hyundai. A new one, with the interlocks, but the punks don't know that.
I live downtown and feel perfectly safe for my daily activities. Not sure how suburbia people can be so afraid of other people
New Kia and Hyundai models with the push button start (that isn't easily stolen) still get hit with higher insurance costs even though they're not the ones being stolen. Insurance companies just lump them all together.
@@8bitnfldfs468 Walk around in North St Louis at 2:00 am and get back to us on that.
I live in Raleigh NC and Kia and Hyundai get stolen daily here.Sad.
@@katydid2877north St Louis is a whole different story. I live in TGS, definitely not the same as North STL
Grew up in south St Louis which is still nice, but glad to be gone. Typical democratic city. Been that way for years.
I literally moved to stl from mobile[second on the list]. Both felt safe to me and both have very different government. You can blame democrats if you want like a typical trumpanzee but I have no issues
Yep, the city of St.Louis is definitely a hoodrat infested area
Are you not listening to this presentation? He’s pointed out the most important factors and not one time did he say “Democrats are the reason blah blah blah…” Besides, this is a REPUBLICAN RUN STATE!!!!! It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Democrat or Republicans but RACISM AND BAD LEADERSHIP ALL TOGETHER! The system is built on RACISM. That’s what’s destroying this country’s cities! CRT IS EXTREMELY NECESSARY IN SCHOOLS SO THAT FUTURE CHILDREN CAN START UNDOING THIS FCKED UP SHT SHOW THAT’S BEING DRAGGED OUT BY RACISM AND OPPRESSION!
East Saint Louis, Illinois. 👎👎👎
We're they wrong about them lowering home values? NO!
I moved from Texas to St. Louis, due to a work transfer, and lived there for almost 15 years. Looking back I realized it was on the downward turn, but I still enjoyed it.
My mom was from there and I remember the train rides from Texas to Union Station then a meal at a big city diner before heading to grandma's a few blocks away from Tower Grove Park.
It sounds like St. Louis as a city, sadly, has gone the way of many once bustling boom towns of Texas and the west.
I'm back in my native Texas now and retired. I consider myself fortunate to have experienced both, even as they were in the sunsets of an amazing historic era.
Whoever made this doesn’t know shit about st.louis
@ bren7883: Please explain what you mean. I have been to That city many times. I have a brother living there and most of what I have read is TRUE! It's a crime ridden city and the people are terrible when it comes to treating each other with respect. Your crime stays don't lie. These are documented facts by the govt statistics.
St Louis is a city of duplexes, it seems.....unlike Detroit, which was mostly single-family homes. The blighted sections of St Louis don't seem nearly as run-down as the most blighted sections of Detroit. It actually seems much cleaner litter-wise, there's less street trash, fewer burned out houses and fewer boarded-up properties. There also appears to be far fewer streets and boulevards with commercial establishments in proximity to residential areas.
I'm fascinated by the architecture of these neighborhoods.....yellow brick is, by far, the most common construction material, while Detroit is a red brick city. The homes in St Louis have mostly flat roofs, obviously due to it's more hospitable climate.
I noticed a lot of duplexes too. Not just on the north side but on the Southside as well. I like the architecture in St. Louis. It’s unique.
I was born and raised in Florida my family and parents are from St. Louis, i moved there by myself when i was 17 to escape toxic family... I loved the culture, the people, the changing seasons... I unfortunately went through a bunch of hard circumstances from 17 to 21 which is the age i am now and currently living with toxic family again and struggling finding happiness for the first time ever, but I really love what you said at the end about you can change your life around even in a bad environment... you have shown me hope and brought me out of my negative thoughts
glad I live in canada,it looks so much more beautiful
st louis=boring
So South St. Louis has become “more diverse” in recent years, eh? Has it become safer as well ?
I live on the north side. I have been here 5 years and my neighbors are great and crime has not been an issue for me. I think the new police chief and city prosecutor are going to make some difference, maybe you should also adress that STLcity which has 300k people is statistically separate from the other 2.7 mil people that live in the suburbs so that drives a lot of the FBI crime data..
Why would the new chief and prosecutor need to make a difference if you are already in the worst area and your neighbors are great and crime is not an issue?
According to the most recent census estimate, the city of St. Louis is down to approximately 281,000 people.
Chris, thanks a lot for the wonderful video. Is the area where St. Luke's hospital near Maryville University safe?
That's a nice area. More Creve Couer , Chesterfield area.
I like how when you drive around, you give a history of the area. Very informative.
You are seeing a great deal of videos being made about St.Louis all of a sudden. 🤔🤔Yeah It's dangerous but something's happening here .
I love st louis so much that I am leaving so the other residents have more space to love!
I was born and raised in the Lou. I haven’t lived there since 2002. This video brings up some good and not so good memories.
Here in Canada the city I live in hasn’t seen 200 murders in 20 years and that’s in a city of 1.5 million people much bigger than some of these cities!
St. Louis on the north side is bad. Very bad. South down around Lemay, Olive, affton etc in the county is a lot safer. Good rule of thumb is if it's a street named after a state you stay outta there if you value yourself.
Two different worlds... North and South Side STL. You went through the shit, even dumbasses dont go to that area.
Hmmm...well let's see why , downtown much money wasted redoing downtown while construction contracts go to the same racists company's pockets , the never ending construction on the south side while the black communities get none of this , the north side has been in neglect for decades . Yes tour st. Louis see where the money goes.
Another great video, Chris . I Live in St . Louis . Some areas like the one I am in are just fine . it's Like Mayberry in my Hood . They don't show as much of this here in town . The local news makes small mention of it but we here it on the Police scanner . a lot of folks have to go pay they're Sewer bill via Money order in that area once every 90 days too . Not all of St . Louis is like this though , there are areas that are much safer .
The earnings tax that St. Louis collects provides fully 1/3rd for their ENTIRE operating revenue.
Wow......
34+ minutes of absolutely nothing dangerous happening in "the most dangerous city in america!!!!OMG!!!!" I cant wait for part 2.......
After the unconstitutional 'fair housing act' of 1965 which took away from you the right to sell or rent YOUR OWN PROPERTY to whomever you wished... we saw the final 'ethnic cleansing' of the old German, Jewish, Polish and other neighborhoods of St. Louis with their venerable churches and rich social organization. Many had left for the suburbs but the ethnic traditional neighborhoods were truly destroyed at that time. The post war 880,000 population of the city is now something like 290,000. The 'liberals' even leveled the black Mill Creek neighborhood and to this day NOTHING is in its place. For decades now 'urban pioneers' have struggled to revive the once beautiful old neighborhoods such as Tower Grove, Lafayette Park, Soulard etc. but crime is driving them away. Only the Italians on 'the hill' in St. Louis managed to keep their ethnic enclave fairly intact by passing their houses on through families.
Unfortunately this is extremely misleading for the vast majority of the St Louis area. St Louis City is an independent city unlike most cities/counties in the country. St Louis City and St Louis County have been completely separate entities since the city succeeded from the county in the late 1870s. The city has around 300k population, 79 neighborhoods, and most of the crime is isolated into a handful of those neighborhoods.
When lists discuss the most dangerous, St Louis CITY is often near the top. When lists discuss the best places to live, many of those lists contain some of the 88 municipalities, 91 special districts, and 23 school districts in St Louis COUNTY. In all but crime data, the combined ~3mil population is used for most other statistics (population, TV market, Radio market, etc). When you combine the City with the County crime stats, St Louis is statistically a very safe city in crimes per capita
The issue is that democrat mayors don’t care about safety or crime and democrats keep electing incompetent people. While St. Louis has lost population, the st Louis metro has held steady or grown slightly. Everyone just left the crime ridden ignorant city into the suburbs. The problem is the rot is spreading. From st Louis city to north county and then south county. West county is making a stand against ignorant St. Louis.
Born and raised in STL, living in San Antonio, TX now for 12 years and I would NEVER move back. There are some very cool things to do, see, and eat there but nowadays, I would only visit to partake. I am not exaggerating when I say that I do not know ONE friend or family member who still lives there who doesn't want to leave.
Part of my family is from the north side St. Louis and I worked on North side at crown candy kitchen until i was 19. My dad almost bought a little house in in Hyde Park neighborhood back in the 90's. People look at me like I'm crazy when I say that if I move back to St Louis, I would move to the city, not the county. My daughter is the same way, but she had a place on the south side before in Benton Park neighborhood
Why does the date in the left corner dated as 11/14/23. That date is wrong. It’s ahead of time. Today is 5/15/23. Interesting
Exactly I pointed out the same thing.. I see you peeped it out too.
The renaissance in Detroit has gotten a lot of good press. I could be wrong, but I don't sense a renaissance in the St. Louis city limits.
Anything is possible, and Detroit is on the right track but it has a LONG way to go.
Detroit comeback began in 2012 and is going very well. It's an awesome city. Everyone knows where not to go and the rest is very cool and fun.
I have to look and see if u did a story on Kinloch, MO. Very interesting
Ya, Honey. You are in North St. Louis. Nobody really lives up there anymore. That is really a very poor neighborhood. Try finding a decline in Ladue. That IS NOT the city of St Louis. You are cherry-picking.
Detroit is larger in land area than Saint Louis. Detroit is 138.73 square miles, Saint Louis is only 61.72 square Miles. At least Saint Louis doesn't have the arson problem that Detroit does.
Another reason Detroit is wayyyyyyy bigger than the city of St.Louis is because Detroit is in a County (Wayne County Michigan) while the city of St.Louis is a independent city.
arson is long gone detroit is moving up st louis is going down without any investment or billionaire or federal funding
The arson problem in Detroit was much bigger in the 1970s to 1990s. Since the 2000s it has been declining. Still an issue, and still a higher rate than many other big cities, but not like before. Lots of things about Detroit have improved in the last 20 years.
"crime has always been a result of economic decline" LOL. Always excusing bad behavior. Millions of people around the U.S. are poor and don't commit crimes. Millions. Keep making excuses for bad behavior, blame somebody else. It's never the criminals fault guyz.
Correlation does not equal causation. Claiming detroit has been passed on these random “crime lists” due to redirecting funds is silly as hell. Grow up.
I don’t wanna grow up.
Couldn't take a minute to explain the St. Louis City-County divide impacts crime statistics?
Not sure why you chose the worst neighbors. It jas many more better neighborhoods.
When you live in STL, you know which areas to avoid. Nearly all shootings are in north city.
Ok. Is this a good or bad thing? Humanity should supercede body counts, or the lack thereof.
I have lived in the KC MO area for over 40 years. KC and St. Louis have the same problem, and now it is worse since the government of both is make up of the same population as the citizens left.
There is not real focus on preventing criminal activity, just how to let the offenders get out without bail, so they can repeat. The tragedy at the Chiefs Super Bowl victory shows what the population is. Missouri is a great state except for St. Louis and KC
To address crime, the city has to arrest, convict and punish offenders. Kim Gardner wasn't a DA who would even consider following a rational course of action, and this only helped to accelerate the city's decline. Education is important to overcome gang culture, but we have a government quite satisfied with dumbing down the population in general as well as lowering educational expectations. St. Louis' ghetto won't improve until knowledge is considered important. Further, rewarding people with incentives not to work is counterproductive and culturally catastrophic. Generational reliance on welfare is pandemic in St. Louis. Black nuclear families are far too unique as government policies encourage a man not to be in the household. JOBS are the best social welfare! Since St. Louis has lost so much industry, it will be nearly impossible to break the generational cycle which has permeated government thinking the past 70 years. Handouts don't make for self-respect and self-reliance. For St. Louis to survive as a functional and self-sustaining city, it must convince St. Louis County to allow it to rejoin. St. Louis County is now suffering from many of the same problems the city has: crime, gangs, drugs, white flight, blight, etc. But the county has far more resources to help the entire metropolitan area improve. The city has simply lost too much tax base to stay afloat. Obviously, doing what the city's government has been doing isn't going to work. Try something different. A simple place to start would be for the city to allow police officers to live in St. Louis County. The applicant pool would be much greater and the candidates more qualified and robust. Corruption might be reduced and respect regained. It might be a lead example of how the city and county can work together and head towards reconciliation after about a 150 year separation
What population heads the cities leading in murders?
Poor populations.
Beaumont High School is not closed. It is used as a technical school called Beaumont CTE. I currently work there
GTHO and donate all your proceeds from this video to a charity in St Louis
I grew up on the North side! The biggest problem is the crime! That's not on redlining or discrimination, it's on the PARENTS! They wouldn't keep the children from skipping school or stealing things that didn't belong to them! Let them do whatever they wanted and didn't teach them that there are consequences for everything you do! That's why the area is so bad! If they took care of their houses it would still be a beautiful area!
Fred you are so right. People never ask why white people don’t want to live with black people. They just name call… your a racist if you talk about the race problem. Therefore no common understanding.
It's July 2024 now and this place is worse, so many places you go to you need to carry weapons!
No music to hear all of your well organized and spoken information. Excellent
Pretty similar to crime rate up the road in kansas city
Can’t believe that because they just didn’t prosecute the murderers
St Louis has a huge racial divide and the St Louis news TV stations radio stations too are guilty of stroking the ambers . As a native St Louis guy growing up on the South side of the city Cherokee Street and Ohio we were told never ever go to the North side of the city. Today in 2024 the South side , the North side, the Central Corridor & that notorious East St Louis Illinois looks the same it's one big mess. Dexter Lombardo 🤠 lives in Creve Coeur
Where I used to live in south city is now a disgusting slum. Will never move back to live in St. Loser.