If only Brian had been around to tell his side of the Stones story and what had inspired him. Maybe one day, something of that will come to light. Brian R.I.P🙏🏽
It really takes cajones (not) to rip a dead man, there's no possibility of being called out for lying. Where would the four surviving Stones be today without Brian's musical genius? No Jones No Stones!
To be fair, journalist and friend Don Short said Brian once told him, "It's not that I dislike their music. It's great. But there must be a fair crack of the whip. As a group, we've got to consider all channels of music. Mine included."
"Jones was perhaps more of a Rolling Stone than any of the others. What the Stones as a group sang about, what Jagger and Richard wrote about, Jones did, and he did it right out in public, and he got caught, and he looked the part. He wasn’t acting out the Stones’ music, he just happened to be the Stones’ music."--Rolling Stone magazine, 1969
I will say, I do think Mick and Keith were wrong to just declare Brian or Bill "couldn't write good songs." As though every song the Twins wrote were gold? No. By all accounts, Brian was their George Martin, he helped make their songs hits. He and Bill had the right to demand more of a creative outlet in the group.
@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Thank you. have you read his autobiography LIFE ? - or should I say Ευχαριστω πολύ - ακούς στα ελληνικά μουσική εδω επίσης ? εχει πολυ καλο παλιό τραγοθδια εδω
Awesome to hear Brian sing -- a very good singer, sounds nice. Too bad he didn't write and sing his own stuff. The song fragments sounded quite good indeed.
..as a backup vocalist ,maybe.His voice certainly wasn't lead singer quality.And when he drank too much and used too many drugs, then he really couldn't sing or really play that well. And near the end he didn't put any real effort into contributing much to the band. I've always wondered why he didnt even try to write his own stuff on the side and put those ideas in a notebook.,regardless of who were the songwriters for the group. He had almost nine years to do something... Sad ,really.
@@thaismatsumoto I think Brian was a fragile person who was very insecure and afraid of rejection. To write songs means having to be open to criticism and exposing oneself. He wasn't comfortable with that. But some of that insecurity can probably be traced to how Andrew created the power structure of the band. Brian was subsided early for Mick and Keith’s writing talents when it should have been more inclusive. He was more or less usurped from his own band. I would probably be a little insecure and secretly jealous, as well. Brian gave a lot of Mick/Keith ditties texture, and while that might not attain authorship, many of the songs would not be the same without Brian’s contribution.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 The "power struggle" was very simple. Brian couldn't write orr improvise , so he didn't have any "power " at all. He was a petulant poser.
I think that it is inherent in most bands that there is an element of that sort of behaviour. In my experience, there is always someone who thinks he's superior than anyone else. Even if that's the case, everyone has there part to contribute and very often have other skills to offer. You should in fact, all work together for the good of the band. As a matter of fact, Brian Jones was extremely talented, he became more and more frustrated at being edged out and ignored. Some of which he brought on himself through his own behaviour. I remember and have supported the Stones right from the beginning. Every member of the band, past and present, has greatly contributed to it's phenomenal success. Even with the very sad episode with Brian.
Without Brian, the Stones would have been just another garage band from the Sixties. He made Stones songs different from anything that was sounding in those days
At 14:12 the interviewer asks Bill , "You mentioned he did something with Jimi Hendrix...Some playing... yeah",Bill looks surprised and embarrassed and he giggles... "No one knows that" Bill then looks off camera probably to the director and laughs some more.. then he asks." what do I say? The reason Bill looks and sounds embarrassed and flummoxed is that what is referred to here is when Jones crashed Jimi's recording session of All Along the Watchtower, drunk out of his mind and tripping on acid and he insisted on playing some of the worst piano accompaniment ever recorded... out of key and clumsily off tempo. This almost caused Jimi to quit the session and give up when, horrible take after horrible take, each one was worse than the one before it. Thankfully Brian was ushered into the control room and he passed out on the floor so Jimi could finish one of the most successful and iconic covers of his career. Bill's embarrassed laughter showed this had him confused because the interview was supposed to be a positive one about Jones. It cracks me up that they left this in the edit. This is where some Jones worshiper is supposed to chime in and talk about the wonderful vibraslap that Brian hit in the intro made the song so great. Ha ha ha ha ha How pathetically embarrassing.
Well that matches the story Gene Clark said, that he offered to give Brian co credit on Eight Miles High, and Brian declined. The Stones' accountant also said he told Brian he was giving away credit to Mick and Keith.
Can't imagine Brian being offered a songwriting credit by Keith or Mick because it would mean a whole bag of credits for other songs. Yet he should have been offered for his due. Brian 🙏🏽R.I.P
They mostly worked that way. A riff, a catchy phrase from Keith, then Jagger wrote out loose lyrics while Keith and the band worked out the rest of the tune. Mick and the producer would of course be in on that as well. Keith came up with so much great music. Had such a great drummer and bass to work with. Poor brilliant Brian should have left them in '66.
I’d read that it was Keith who came up with the lyrics and certainly had a hand in the music though Brian came up with the initial recorder melody which he played on record plus piano. Marianne Faithful who sat in during the recordings said it ought to have been credited as a Brian / Keith song. Mick just came in and sang the song. Normally I’d have expected a jagged Richards songs as Mick lyrics and Keith music though in reality Brian contributed to and reshaped the music.
Which is ironic considering how much he cheated on and dumped his girlfriends over his lifetime. He certainly didn't put the effort in to make any of his relationships work..Five children by five different women who he dumped when they became pregnant isn't anything to be proud of.
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
No one can lose anything they never owned.Anita was a strong willed intelligent woman. Jones liked to beat women up. She dumped him because he was an asshole.
I don't believe Brian was jealous of anyone , why would he ? He had more talent in is pinky finger than all the rest of them put together , he started everything with the Rolling Stones and could play any insrument that was put infront of him .
@@charlessteenburgen mick taylor's style was completely off to it's self in the stones sound. it did not fit. yes, taylor was/is a great guitar player. have you EVER read what taylor said about the stones???
@@charlessteenburgen it was a coup d'etat within the band and from management. oldham was in love with jagger and hated brian. jagger and richards had THEIR own interests in mind.
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Brian did not form or found the Rolling Stones. Look this up...; who are the people who played in the Rolling Stones debut performance at the Marquee Club July 12th 1962? it was the four members of Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys. Mick Jagger of the Blue Boys singing lead, Keith Richards of the Blue Boys playing lead guitar, Dick Taylor of the Blue Boys playing bass guitar and Tony Chapman of the Blue Boys playing drums. They also were joined on stage with two new guys who had recently joined their band just before they changed their name to the Rollin Stones, pianist, Ian Stewart and occasional guitarist Brian Jones. There is no way in the world that anyone can twist this to say that Brian Jones somehow "founded" this band. It was founded by the three Rolling Stones members, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Dick Taylor the year before. So stop repeating the stupid lies! Brian JOINED this band. He did not found or form it!
Sounds like Brian wanted to be the 5th Beatle (George Martin gets that credit) he was a sitar, mellow Tron(damn spell check) guy. Who knows if it would have worked. John, Paul, George, Brian, and Ringo(Richard Starkey). Ringo’s revenge he is alive and appears happy, Joe Walsh’s brother-in-law.
Brian Epstein also gets the title as the "Fifth Beatle" too. Paul said that in the 1999 documentary on Brian. Since Zouzou said that Brian Jones was a fan of The Beatles and they would listen to their records at his place, it makes sense. Same goes with Brian playing the saxophone in the song; *You Know My Name (Look up the Number)* . Brian was also friends with John Lennon, and Paul McCartney did say he was a nice guy.
@@lisettegarcia7013 Psychopaths, like Brian always seem like nice guys to people who don't know them well. Anyone who regularly worked with him knew what an asshole he really was. BTW the Beatles song Brian played on was a joke and his part was a joke. Nothing to praise him for. It was a satire of a really bad nightclub act.
@@williardbillmore5713 How can that be? Both bands were friends before they made it huge. Do you even have evidence about the song being a joke on Brian Jones?
No matter the PR smear campaign, the carefully selected quotes from people that probably had an axe to grind, the responses that may have been forced by the manager, the thing that Brian’s adversaries will never be able to hide is that you can HEAR Brian’s influence in the music and it’s absence when it’s gone. Lyrically and musically the work of a higher mind. His home studio was stripped bare by Rolling Stones management during his funeral of which Mick and Keith did not attend. Why would anyone’s ex *employers* have any right to their ex *employee*’s PRIVATE property? Only his parents had right to his property. Where did Brian’s home recordings go? On the next few albums - ‘Sticky Fingers’? What a joke. Team Brian forever. The world was robbed by his death.
@@williardbillmore5713 He wrote paint it Black and Ruby Tuesday which Bill Wyman and Marianne Faithfull both acknowledged Brain should have gotten credit. This is the same reason why Mick Taylor left in 74 for lack of writing credits
@@christophernash1846 ABSOLUTE FICTITIOUS NONSENSE.TAYLOR GOT FULL CREDIT FOR WHAT HE WROTE WORDS AND MELODY TO AND JONES NEVER WROTE ANYTHING IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER. THE MUSIC IN PAINT IT BLACK AND ALL OF RUBY TUESDAY ARE 100% WRITTEN BY KEITH RICHARDS AND THE LYRICS IN PAINT IT BLACK ARE 100% WRITTEN BY MICK JAGGER. STOP LYING JONES WAS A POSER AND A PHONEY.
Keith said about Brian"s Self destrucion but Keith is still here (25:00) And Charlie said two thngs about Brian, hes not nice and he upset people very easily (21:50) That's why Frank Thorogood drowned him in the pool, while Keith he's a nice person & don't annoyed anyone that's why he's still here. It's only Rock n Roll but I like it 🎸 ❤
Your comment is extremely uninformed; I suggest a great deal more research. Btw, it's pretty evil to drown someone just because you don't think they're "nice." Scary that you don't realize that.
Mick and Keith were never on the same songwriting level as John and Paul--or even ABBA's Björn and Benny. While there are exceptions, e.g., 'Backstreet Girl,' nearly all of their songs are just based on Keith's riffs. Even a song like 'Angie' just monotonously repeats itself throughout. And lyrics have never been their strong point, either. The Beatles far outshine them in that department. Of course, the songs work, they're enjoyable to listen to and they get you stomping your feet, but from a purely compositional standpoint, they're not very sophisticated. Just ask any music teacher or serious musician.
@@yoanberlianasiregar2325That’s a good thing, not sure why you think it’s a punch line. But it’s also too simplistic and answer, he clearly liked multiple genres.
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly, Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
@@ronnieron9912 Utter and complete nonsense....Keith learned his fourth chord when he was ten years old. Keith had to teach Brian almost everything he did in the Rolling Stones. Jones had no native feel or sensibilities about how to play rock and roll.
How can anyone in their right mind say that Brian Jones "founded the Rolling Stones when their debut performance at the Marquee Club On July 12th 1962 consisted of the band called the Blue Boys, Keith's band that had been founded the year before. They had changed their name and they added two new players Brian and Ian Stewart but the rest of the band was Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Dick Taylor on Bass and the drummer Tony Chapman. The performers on stage that night were the entire Blue Boys band, Keith's band. The only group Brian Jones ever founded was the 27 club. It is all a myth and a lie to say that Brian Jones founded the Rolling Stones. Brian JOINED the Blue Boys,Keith's band and THAT band then changed their name to the Rollin Stone It was Keith and Mick who brought the entire Blue Boys band together and then when Brian and Ian asked to join they brought them in as well.. the Rollin Stones were Keith's band and he founded them. and led them to world wide fame and success.
Keith is alive because he understood what moderation means. Jones is dead because he didn't' know the meaning of the word. Brian killed himself with excessive amounts of booze and drugs.
It's no longer strange to me why i only like the Stones up to Beggers, after that, it was Mick and Keith's look at us, were famous rock and roll crap! Brain was the heart beat of that band.,
@@marccarter1350 What you like, or don't like is a matter of individual taste. But the success of a musician is an easily measurable attribute that can be assessed buy financial gain, critical acclaim and demand for live appearances and new recordings worldwide. You can argue all day that you don't like what they did but you can never say that they were not successful. Both Mick and Keith are worth well over 500 million each. That can never be called failure.
@@ronnieron9912 You know that will never happen. You are pipe dreaming again, Ronnie boy. I will continue revealing the truth about who and what Brian Jones was and did and couldn't do. I am armed with the truth that Brian joined the Blue Boys and founded nothing.
@@williardbillmore5713 Years before? Fire him like maybe 6 months after he formed the band? Really, you are like the other guy...clueless. We're you around then? It does help to have first hand info
@@jhfit Yes I was around then...Brian's only friend, Bill Wyman even said that Brian was unreliable and pretty useless for the last three years. That would be from 66 to 69, half of his six year career. BTW Brian did Not "form the band". He joined Mick and Keith's band the Blue Boys and THAT band changed their name to the Rolling Stones. Stop repeating the lies and myths. The only group that Brian Jones founded was the 27 club.
Brian influence are so overrated. I'm not so fond of the Stones early stuff, sure there are some good songs but mostly it was pretty much just covers and later really shitty attempts to psychedelia, which the Stones never had anything to do with in the first place. For me, the Stones didn't "become" the Stones until the release of Jumping Jack Flash and Beggars Banquet in 1968, and sure, Brian was on these recordings but was already by then "gone" and when Let it bleed was released he was gone for real, just appearing on two tracks. We all know the story, he couldn't write songs, and he got bored of the guitar and started to play all these weird foreign instruments instead when he actually showed up to the sessions. The stones got SO MUCH better after Brian was fired.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about 60s Stones or Brian Jones. If you want to talk about the 70s, then go to those videos. Stop spreading ignorance here.
@@TheaterPup Mick Taylor left the Stones to save his marriage and his life from drugs! So I read it from someone.. if it's true, I say Bravo to him.. I believe he had other reasons too..
@@elenikorkodelaki2695he also realized they weren't up to his musical ability and he felt stifled in the band. And they didn't really let anyone else be creative. That had to be frustrating for someone with his talent.
If only Brian had been around to tell his side of the Stones story and what had inspired him. Maybe one day, something of that will come to light. Brian R.I.P🙏🏽
It really takes cajones (not) to rip a dead man, there's no possibility of being called out for lying. Where would the four surviving Stones be today without Brian's musical genius? No Jones No Stones!
To be fair, journalist and friend Don Short said Brian once told him, "It's not that I dislike their music. It's great. But there must be a fair crack of the whip. As a group, we've got to consider all channels of music. Mine included."
Jones had no channels of music. He was a poser and a phoney.
@@williardbillmore5713 poser and phony ? Listen to Aftermath , 2000 light years from home ,Ruby Tuesday etc..
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"Jones was perhaps more of a Rolling Stone than any of the others. What the Stones as a group sang about, what Jagger and Richard wrote about, Jones did, and he did it right out in public, and he got caught, and he looked the part. He wasn’t acting out the Stones’ music, he just happened to be the Stones’ music."--Rolling Stone magazine, 1969
Jones was a zero.
I will say, I do think Mick and Keith were wrong to just declare Brian or Bill "couldn't write good songs." As though every song the Twins wrote were gold? No. By all accounts, Brian was their George Martin, he helped make their songs hits. He and Bill had the right to demand more of a creative outlet in the group.
Wo says every song by J and R was gold? Certainly not Richards who slates many of them in his auto biography
@@Kinuklon Then they shouldn’t have been control freaks about it.
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@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Thank you. have you read his autobiography LIFE ? - or should I say Ευχαριστω πολύ - ακούς στα ελληνικά μουσική εδω επίσης ? εχει πολυ καλο παλιό τραγοθδια εδω
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Awesome to hear Brian sing -- a very good singer, sounds nice. Too bad he didn't write and sing his own stuff. The song fragments sounded quite good indeed.
..as a backup vocalist ,maybe.His voice certainly wasn't lead singer quality.And when he drank too much and used too many drugs, then he really couldn't sing or really play that well. And near the end he didn't put any real effort into contributing much to the band. I've always wondered why he didnt even try to write his own stuff on the side and put those ideas in a notebook.,regardless of who were the songwriters for the group. He had almost nine years to do something... Sad ,really.
@@thaismatsumoto I think Brian was a fragile person who was very insecure and afraid of rejection. To write songs means having to be open to criticism and exposing oneself. He wasn't comfortable with that. But some of that insecurity can probably be traced to how Andrew created the power structure of the band. Brian was subsided early for Mick and Keith’s writing talents when it should have been more inclusive. He was more or less usurped from his own band. I would probably be a little insecure and secretly jealous, as well. Brian gave a lot of Mick/Keith ditties texture, and while that might not attain authorship, many of the songs would not be the same without Brian’s contribution.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 The "power struggle" was very simple. Brian couldn't write orr improvise , so he didn't have any "power " at all.
He was a petulant poser.
@@thaismatsumoto Brian was an amazingly lazy individual. A poser and a phoney...He did as little as he could get away with
@@williardbillmore5713 Only poser is you going on EVERY video comment section on youtube spewing your lying bullshit stories.
I think that it is inherent in most bands that there is an element of that sort of behaviour. In my experience, there is always someone who thinks he's superior than anyone else.
Even if that's the case, everyone has there part to contribute and very often have other skills to offer. You should in fact, all work together for the good of the band. As a matter of fact, Brian Jones was extremely talented, he became more and more frustrated at being edged out and ignored. Some of which he brought on himself through his own behaviour. I remember and have supported the Stones right from the beginning. Every member of the band, past and present, has greatly contributed to it's phenomenal success. Even with the very sad episode with Brian.
Jones was a malignant narcissist and a psychopath... He thought he was better than everybody.
He couldn't have been more wrong.
Without Brian, the Stones would have been just another garage band from the Sixties. He made Stones songs different from anything that was sounding in those days
And the ultimate irony?
Allen Klein owns all these songs from about '63 to '71.
"Fame doesn't rest easily on anyone's head, but on some people its an entirely wrong fit" - Mick Jagger on Brian Jones.
Unfair to say that!
It's fine that Brian didn't like the songs of Mick and Keith. Their stuff is not to my liking by 1972.
At 18:40 ,how do we know it's Brian singing or Mike Aldred? The voice does sound like Brian's but I don't know what Mike Aldrid sounds like.
The only voice on that recording is Aldred.
@@williardbillmore5713 Nonsense, you are deaf. Its definitely Brian.
Mick is very proud and don't let to Brian & Bill to sing.Keith is dirty like Mick
What band is this?
At 14:12 the interviewer asks Bill , "You mentioned he did something with Jimi Hendrix...Some playing... yeah",Bill looks surprised and embarrassed and he giggles... "No one knows that" Bill then looks off camera probably to the director and laughs some more.. then he asks." what do I say?
The reason Bill looks and sounds embarrassed and flummoxed is that what is referred to here is when Jones crashed Jimi's recording session of All Along the Watchtower, drunk out of his mind and tripping on acid and he insisted on playing some of the worst piano accompaniment ever recorded... out of key and clumsily off tempo. This almost caused Jimi to quit the session and give up when, horrible take after horrible take, each one was worse than the one before it.
Thankfully Brian was ushered into the control room and he passed out on the floor so Jimi could finish one of the most successful and iconic covers of his career.
Bill's embarrassed laughter showed this had him confused because the interview was supposed to be a positive one about Jones. It cracks me up that they left this in the edit.
This is where some Jones worshiper is supposed to chime in and talk about the wonderful vibraslap that Brian hit in the intro made the song so great. Ha ha ha ha ha
How pathetically embarrassing.
Didn't Brian compose the third verse of Ruby Tuesday? I read that Keith offered him writing credit, but Brian declined. True story?
Well that matches the story Gene Clark said, that he offered to give Brian co credit on Eight Miles High, and Brian declined. The Stones' accountant also said he told Brian he was giving away credit to Mick and Keith.
Stop it. Jones was too busy beating women and leaving fatherless children all over Britain to "write" a damn thing.
Can't imagine Brian being offered a songwriting credit by Keith or Mick because it would mean a whole bag of credits for other songs. Yet he should have been offered for his due. Brian 🙏🏽R.I.P
"Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind. Ain't life unkind." If Brian didn't write it he certainly lived it.
@@atlasking6110Get lost, troll.
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Did Keith have ANY lyrics when he woke up or just the one line or just the opening notes? Did Mick take over and write it all from that point?
I believe he just came up with the riff and possibly the chord progression (E, A, and B7...as simple as it gets).
They mostly worked that way. A riff, a catchy phrase from Keith, then Jagger wrote out loose lyrics while Keith and the band worked out the rest of the tune. Mick and the producer would of course be in on that as well. Keith came up with so much great music. Had such a great drummer and bass to work with. Poor brilliant Brian should have left them in '66.
@@glynjones7158 No Stones = No Money
No Stones, no money !
I’d read that it was Keith who came up with the lyrics and certainly had a hand in the music though Brian came up with the initial recorder melody which he played on record plus piano. Marianne Faithful who sat in during the recordings said it ought to have been credited as a Brian / Keith song. Mick just came in and sang the song. Normally I’d have expected a jagged Richards songs as Mick lyrics and Keith music though in reality Brian contributed to and reshaped the music.
Seems strange there was no mention of "The Dragon Lady", Anita Pallenberg. Losing her to Keith really accelerated his decline into drugs and booze.
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Which is ironic considering how much he cheated on and dumped his girlfriends over his lifetime. He certainly didn't put the effort in to make any of his relationships work..Five children by five different women who he dumped when they became pregnant isn't anything to be proud of.
@@thaismatsumoto Karma, it's a bitch
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
No one can lose anything they never owned.Anita was a strong willed intelligent woman. Jones liked to beat women up. She dumped him because he was an asshole.
I don't believe Brian was jealous of anyone , why would he ? He had more talent in is pinky finger than all the rest of them put together , he started everything with the Rolling Stones and could play any insrument that was put infront of him .
amen!
actually it all boils down to oldham was in love with mick and hated brian.
HE COULDNT TOUCH MICK TAYLOR ON GUITAR
@@charlessteenburgen mick taylor's style was completely off to it's self in the stones sound. it did not fit. yes, taylor was/is a great guitar player. have you EVER read what taylor said about the stones???
@@charlessteenburgen it was a coup d'etat within the band and from management. oldham was in love with jagger and hated brian. jagger and richards had THEIR own interests in mind.
Fascinating but so sad . . .
........but he did have the best hair
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Brian did not form or found the Rolling Stones.
Look this up...; who are the people who played in the Rolling Stones debut performance at the Marquee Club July 12th 1962?
it was the four members of Little Boy Blue and the Blue Boys. Mick Jagger of the Blue Boys singing lead, Keith Richards of the Blue Boys playing lead guitar, Dick Taylor of the Blue Boys playing bass guitar and Tony Chapman of the Blue Boys playing drums.
They also were joined on stage with two new guys who had recently joined their band just before they changed their name to the Rollin Stones, pianist, Ian Stewart and occasional guitarist Brian Jones.
There is no way in the world that anyone can twist this to say that Brian Jones somehow "founded" this band. It was founded by the three Rolling Stones members, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Dick Taylor the year before.
So stop repeating the stupid lies!
Brian JOINED this band. He did not found or form it!
Sounds like Brian wanted to be the 5th Beatle (George Martin gets that credit) he was a sitar, mellow Tron(damn spell check) guy. Who knows if it would have worked. John, Paul, George, Brian, and Ringo(Richard Starkey). Ringo’s revenge he is alive and appears happy, Joe Walsh’s brother-in-law.
Quite a combination and a big snub to the rest of the Stones who rejected his ideas.
Jones could not be the fifth dung beetle.
Brian Epstein also gets the title as the "Fifth Beatle" too. Paul said that in the 1999 documentary on Brian.
Since Zouzou said that Brian Jones was a fan of The Beatles and they would listen to their records at his place, it makes sense. Same goes with Brian playing the saxophone in the song; *You Know My Name (Look up the Number)* . Brian was also friends with John Lennon, and Paul McCartney did say he was a nice guy.
@@lisettegarcia7013 Psychopaths, like Brian always seem like nice guys to people who don't know them well.
Anyone who regularly worked with him knew what an asshole he really was.
BTW the Beatles song Brian played on was a joke and his part was a joke. Nothing to praise him for. It was a satire of a really bad nightclub act.
@@williardbillmore5713 How can that be? Both bands were friends before they made it huge.
Do you even have evidence about the song being a joke on Brian Jones?
No matter the PR smear campaign, the carefully selected quotes from people that probably had an axe to grind, the responses that may have been forced by the manager, the thing that Brian’s adversaries will never be able to hide is that you can HEAR Brian’s influence in the music and it’s absence when it’s gone. Lyrically and musically the work of a higher mind. His home studio was stripped bare by Rolling Stones management during his funeral of which Mick and Keith did not attend. Why would anyone’s ex *employers* have any right to their ex *employee*’s PRIVATE property? Only his parents had right to his property. Where did Brian’s home recordings go? On the next few albums - ‘Sticky Fingers’? What a joke.
Team Brian forever. The world was robbed by his death.
Brian never wrote a song in his entire career. He was not capable of an original musical idea.
Brian was a poser and a phoney.
@@williardbillmore5713 He wrote paint it Black and Ruby Tuesday which Bill Wyman and Marianne Faithfull both acknowledged Brain should have gotten credit. This is the same reason why Mick Taylor left in 74 for lack of writing credits
@@christophernash1846 ABSOLUTE FICTITIOUS NONSENSE.TAYLOR GOT FULL CREDIT FOR WHAT HE WROTE WORDS AND MELODY TO AND JONES NEVER WROTE ANYTHING IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
THE MUSIC IN PAINT IT BLACK AND ALL OF RUBY TUESDAY ARE 100% WRITTEN BY KEITH RICHARDS AND THE LYRICS IN PAINT IT BLACK ARE 100% WRITTEN BY MICK JAGGER. STOP LYING
JONES WAS A POSER AND A PHONEY.
@@williardbillmore5713 Only phony is you with your erroneous and deluded claims of facts proven wrong over and over again.
Keith said about Brian"s Self destrucion but Keith is still here (25:00)
And Charlie said two thngs about Brian, hes not nice and he upset people very easily (21:50)
That's why Frank Thorogood drowned him in the pool, while Keith he's a nice person & don't annoyed anyone that's why he's still here.
It's only Rock n Roll but I like it 🎸 ❤
Your comment is extremely uninformed; I suggest a great deal more research. Btw, it's pretty evil to drown someone just because you don't think they're "nice." Scary that you don't realize that.
@@TheaterPup in Frank Thorogood's obituary said he killed Brian, see the movie stoned is about Frank's confession
@@arwinarwin-h3y LOL Dude, none of that is evidence. Conspiracy theories and a bad movie. Please learn how to research before commenting next time.
@@arwinarwin-h3yThe movie was rubbish as was the so called confession.
enjoy 🎉
Mick and Keith were never on the same songwriting level as John and Paul--or even ABBA's Björn and Benny. While there are exceptions, e.g., 'Backstreet Girl,' nearly all of their songs are just based on Keith's riffs. Even a song like 'Angie' just monotonously repeats itself throughout. And lyrics have never been their strong point, either. The Beatles far outshine them in that department. Of course, the songs work, they're enjoyable to listen to and they get you stomping your feet, but from a purely compositional standpoint, they're not very sophisticated. Just ask any music teacher or serious musician.
Well according to the new "Stones and Brian Jones" documentary, Brian preferred to listen to the Beatles. ;D
Cole Porter leaves them all standing for lyrical and melodic content - as does Burt Bacharach.
@@TheaterPup Brian lebih suka mengcover musik blues Amerika 🤣🤣🤣
Musisi hebat ialah bisa menciptakan trend sendiri, Stones membuktikan itu,selera musik orang beda2 bos,musik tak bisa di banding2 kan🤣🤣🤣
@@yoanberlianasiregar2325That’s a good thing, not sure why you think it’s a punch line. But it’s also too simplistic and answer, he clearly liked multiple genres.
Neither Anita or Keith seemed to care about Brian after they got together. There must have been something sincere and kind they could have done if they had genuinely loved him in the first place. Admittedly, Keith did let him stay at Redlands in '68 for a while but not much else- no 'let's write a good song together' or find other musicians for him to set up a band with..etc
Keith didn't owe Jones a thing. Jones tried to destroy Keith's band.
@@williardbillmore5713 Nope. Jones showed Keith more chords on guitar as Keith only knew 3 in the beginning.
@@ronnieron9912 Utter and complete nonsense....Keith learned his fourth chord when he was ten years old. Keith had to teach Brian almost everything he did in the Rolling Stones. Jones had no native feel or sensibilities about how to play rock and roll.
Mick and Keith wrote better songs that "Satisfaction", like "Heart Of Stone" and "Blue Turns To Grey".
Like Honky Tonk.Women..and BROWN Sugar
I like Satisfaction soooo much! But I like so much Brian Jones too❤❤🤷🙆
“Blue Turns to Grey” is a beautiful song.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 Angie is better
@@charlessteenburgen “Angie” is rubbish. From Goats Head Soup, songs like “Winter” are much better ballads.
How can anyone in their right mind say that Brian Jones "founded the Rolling Stones when their debut performance at the Marquee Club On July 12th 1962 consisted of the band called the Blue Boys, Keith's band that had been founded the year before. They had changed their name and they added two new players Brian and Ian Stewart but the rest of the band was Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Dick Taylor on Bass and the drummer Tony Chapman.
The performers on stage that night were the entire Blue Boys band, Keith's band.
The only group Brian Jones ever founded was the 27 club.
It is all a myth and a lie to say that Brian Jones founded the Rolling Stones.
Brian JOINED the Blue Boys,Keith's band and THAT band then changed their name to the Rollin Stone
It was Keith and Mick who brought the entire Blue Boys band together and then when Brian and Ian asked to join they brought them in as well.. the Rollin Stones were Keith's band and he founded them. and led them to world wide fame and success.
Jealous. But talent in his way
Kieth is still here,,,,cuz he wasn't murdered in his own pool.
Keith is alive because he understood what moderation means. Jones is dead because he didn't' know the meaning of the word. Brian killed himself with excessive amounts of booze and drugs.
@@williardbillmore5713 Nonsense bullshit from you a usual. STFU.
That's a fucked up thing to say.
It's no longer strange to me why i only like the Stones up to Beggers, after that, it was Mick and Keith's look at us, were famous rock and roll crap! Brain was the heart beat of that band.,
Funny because they got better and more successful with out a heartbeat, then...Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@williardbillmore5713 Depends on what you call success! I call it shit
@@marccarter1350 What you like, or don't like is a matter of individual taste.
But the success of a musician is an easily measurable attribute that can be assessed buy financial gain, critical acclaim and demand for live appearances and new recordings worldwide. You can argue all day that you don't like what they did but you can never say that they were not successful.
Both Mick and Keith are worth well over 500 million each.
That can never be called failure.
@@williardbillmore5713 Hahahaha to your face and BS lies.
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Brian should have been fired the day he said this.
And you should be banned from all message boards regarding your lies about Brian.
@@ronnieron9912 You know that will never happen. You are pipe dreaming again, Ronnie boy. I will continue revealing the truth about who and what Brian Jones was and did and couldn't do.
I am armed with the truth that Brian joined the Blue Boys and founded nothing.
I love the stones, but they are not even on the same planet as The Beatles in terms of creativity and quality.
Thats true absolutely
It's SITars not SIGHTars.
The narration is made by language software and not a real person
Brian couldn't even write a song that people could call shit. Brian couldn't write any songs at all. He was a poser and a phoney.
He wrote most of Ruby Tuesday. Take your meds for your delusional condition,.
Bullshit!
Stones were shit until they fired Brian! Best move they ever did!! Mick Taylor is a god compared to him!
Get lost, troll.
Stones from 64 through 68 were classic. You don't even know what you're talking about
Jones had been holding them back. They should have fired Brian years before.
@@williardbillmore5713 Years before? Fire him like maybe 6 months after he formed the band? Really, you are like the other guy...clueless. We're you around then? It does help to have first hand info
@@jhfit Yes I was around then...Brian's only friend, Bill Wyman even said that Brian was unreliable and pretty useless for the last three years. That would be from 66 to 69, half of his six year career.
BTW Brian did Not "form the band". He joined Mick and Keith's band the Blue Boys and THAT band changed their name to the Rolling Stones.
Stop repeating the lies and myths.
The only group that Brian Jones founded was the 27 club.
Brian influence are so overrated. I'm not so fond of the Stones early stuff, sure there are some good songs but mostly it was pretty much just covers and later really shitty attempts to psychedelia, which the Stones never had anything to do with in the first place. For me, the Stones didn't "become" the Stones until the release of Jumping Jack Flash and Beggars Banquet in 1968, and sure, Brian was on these recordings but was already by then "gone" and when Let it bleed was released he was gone for real, just appearing on two tracks.
We all know the story, he couldn't write songs, and he got bored of the guitar and started to play all these weird foreign instruments instead when he actually showed up to the sessions.
The stones got SO MUCH better after Brian was fired.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about 60s Stones or Brian Jones. If you want to talk about the 70s, then go to those videos. Stop spreading ignorance here.
They should have fired his ass the day he announced that he wasn't going to play guitar anymore.
Brian was poser and a phoney.
@@TheaterPup it's not ignorance. It's the truth
@@henriksrensen3220 Get lost.
Nonsense
I prefer The Mick Taylor era..and in my not so humble opinion. That's the best version of the band that existed
Then go to a video about him, and stop trolling this one.
@@TheaterPup Mick Taylor left the Stones to save his marriage and his life from drugs! So I read it from someone.. if it's true, I say Bravo to him.. I believe he had other reasons too..
@@TheaterPup I can.do what I want..your approval is not needed
@@elenikorkodelaki2695he also realized they weren't up to his musical ability and he felt stifled in the band. And they didn't really let anyone else be creative. That had to be frustrating for someone with his talent.
@@thaismatsumoto his guitar virtuosity made them a better band
Im 75 today i think The Stones got lucky, watching them in the 60,s now on the Ed Sullivan Show liken them to a school band. Embarrassing
YOURE SO WRONG POPS..
It's called local lads make good. It's not a bad thing.