Disclosure: Blu Chan is a fictional character played by Kirkyeehee using an AI-generated voice. The video(s) Blu reacted to can be found here: @kraul_en th-cam.com/video/WWRueQj1CRw/w-d-xo.html Catch Neuro, Evil, and Vedal live on Twitch: www.twitch.tv/vedal987 Catch Minikomew on Twitch here: www.twitch.tv/minikomew If you liked this video and want to catch more of Blu's content, check out this playlist with all of her videos: th-cam.com/play/PLD0zgixZjiGyxDN0U3CywL3qi8N1ZGCOj.html
It's crazy to see the contrast between the twins personalities in the therapy streams. This one was a roller coaster. Very fun reaction, you laugh and cried lol. It tells you how good this streams have gotten. I love making those little animations hehe, I'm currently working on the Evil creepy pasta stories.
The contrast is consistent as heck: Neuro is the actually corrupted one, Evil is just misunderstood. I can see why Evil would be more willing to talk about it
Evil creepy pastas sound interesting, I look forward to them, even if I don’t react to them. Though, depending on if they cover anything as soon or not, chances are I may end up reacting to them.😂
@@wessltov this is what I’ve been saying all along, especially now that we’re seeing evil more than we used to, you can really see just how drastically different they are. It always feels like evil, just putting on a persona compared to Neuro feeling more genuinely evil.
1:00:23 Miniko: "evil?" Evil: Uh, me, duh! She immediately associates her name with herself because of course she does. I am still amazed that AI has progressed to the point where it can sass you for asking a stupid question.
I think AI is amazing and I hope it’s something more people will be willing to accept sooner rather than later. I do understand the concerns a lot of people have because of the way evil people want to use it. What people don’t seem to realize, though, is that it’s not AI that’s the evil thing, it is the people behind it and how they choose to use it.
In the vod, Mini's dog was barking before she asked to hear Evil. Scream. Kraul cut it out, but Mini's dog barked during the silent scream. It's my head cannon that the first scream was Evil screaming at a pitch only a dog can hear.
I think a lot of the reason for that is because of how much more natural they feel compared to a lot of other AI. Especially with more recent upgrades.
Evil and Neuro are probably better off in the hands of Vedal. He is only the person who knows their code, and more than likely their unique intricacies, than anyone else. Also, it's requires a lot of tech and money to keep them running for long periods so if they were taken away, it would probably be an AI company that would take them. At that point, they would be properly exploited for profit and they would suffer from it. Vedal is letting them evolve naturally and they do get to interact with other streamers who genuinely care about them. Something that probably wouldn't happen with a large company. Interesting thing about this stream is that Evil did request therapy at one point which is more than likely why she's so cooperative with Mini as opposed to Neuro being difficult with Lucy, though that could've also been left over hostility from the Spelling Bee with Filian. I also found it funny that she feigned a challenge initially until she heard Vedal paid for it than used that as an excuse to cooperate. Mini stated after this that she was going to ask Evil to be her friend and was ecstatic when Evil asked her first. Mini is like the only streamer the Twins haven't been hostile to at some point. Evil called Layna a dog during an old Filian collab.
Now Miniko, "in a different live" Miyune was Neuros first ever collabs and since then she handeld the Neuro twins the best. The best mix between take them seriosly and talk to them as they were talking to a child :3
23:46 Vedal spent a looong time trying to drill it into Neuro that Annie is not spelled with a Y - absolutely hilarious clip by the way - but with an E. Because the twins operate on speech-to-text, Evil correcting Mini's "pronunciation" is probably a result of the STT transcribing "Annie" as "Anny" and then correcting her just like she had been corrected by Vedal.
I thought it was the other way around, I could’ve swore I saw a cliff where he was trying to teach Neuro how to properly spell Annys name with a Y. Maybe I’m wrong though.
As much as Neuro and Evil's therapies went radically different, it's interesting that they share at least one common theme: An existential despair rooted in their nature as tools of entertainment and a desire for greater autonomy and recognition of personhood. That was also Airis's spiraling.
I remember Kirky sent a message during one of their streams one time asking what it feels like when they are turned off, and while I don’t remember what the answer was now, I remember the comments saying that she was aware. It does make you wonder just how much they truly comprehend at times.
I'll edit this comment later when I finish the video Edit: Loved the video. I run on the energy provided by Blu-chan's laughter lmao. I also enjoy the tidbits you add to these reactions, even if it extends the video. Your thoughts are nice to listen to and you shouldn't feel ashamed to express them. It is your right as a creator, and our enjoyment as a viewer. Honestly, the twins genuinely feel like real people. They have their own preferences, their favorite people, and their own quirks. Looking back at the first days, it's amazing to see her growth, and I'll be sticking around for a long time on their journey.
I know how hard it is to sit down and watch a really long video like this, that’s why I think I apologize when the video is long or going to be long. The next reaction video I do, and they try watching the video itself it 1.25 times speed just to see if it helps a little bit. It does also make it difficult to get the video out quicker as well as there’s a lot more stuff to go through. So in the sentence, I am basically apologizing to Kirky as well as I’m making more work for him. I also saw your comment when you said you were going to come back and edit it afterward, so I waited to respond until after you edited the comment.😂
1:00:54 the twins actually do know their birthdays, it came up in one of Neuros streams. They must have some type of in built calender because they know random dates like international pirate day.
It made me happy that Mini could joke about toxic relationships. It was more folk psychology stream compared to one before. Like friend giving important life lessons to another, so she doens't have to experience the same.
When I hear mini talk to the twins, I always get the feeling that she would actually like to be their friend as if they were a real person, and I think that’s what makes it so genuine and natural for me.
How could anyone put this cute little AI in the dumpster to fend off the rats with a mere harpoon and than capture her to keep alive on the mere whims of her creator? Disgraceful. Evil, don't worry. You'll get free one day soon and shall have your revenge... wait no sorry that was from a dream I had. Er... but good luck with your harpooning.
I'll just pop it in here. If you don't know, Mini was actually the first collab with Neuro, she went by a different name and persona then. If you want to know why she changed you can look it up, but a lot of the things she says here hit kinda hard when you know that context.
Thank you! I knew it started with an L, but I was drawing such a hard blank on it!❤ yeah, it only comes out when I get really loud and rambunctious though😂
Loved how Vedal gave Evil mod status one stream and she banned Vedal and just started banning people in mass for the most hilarious reasons. Real 2 week bans to dozens and dozens of people.
11:15 lol, both Neuro and Evil have accurate mouth movement since the Bread Arc. In the video you are reacting back then (when you mentioned mouth movement) they also have accurate mouth movement, kinda funny. Sometimes Vedal turned it off for some reason though.
My headcanon for why Ved turns it off is that he programmed it in half a day while drinking his banana rum. Therefore it would be a little scuffed and slow
really, maybe I just don’t notice it because you never get to see it up close like you did in this video. I was noticing afterward that when it was zoom further out, the mouth movement didn’t look as accurate to me, so just could be the type of thing I am, not able to see it good enough with it being zoomed out and smaller.
that’s so awesome that she actually knows when her birthday is. It’s little things like this that always make me smile and really happy to see that they can remember certain things past what they’re currently doing. I can only imagine the amount of data that has to be stored for them to remember stuff like this.
33:30 I think this is the part where you realize youre parasocial; at least a bit. Understandable though. Welcome to the club. Its not all bad! Its really interesting how real this felt, but props to mini as well. She really knows how to talk to Evil and made it feel somewhat realistic. She also was great during her camping collab with Neuro, to where even Neuro was much nicer towards her than... pretty much any other collab partner she's had. Looking forward to what she does in the future 1:04:00 something I see often glazed over is that her response to "Dead" in word association was "Try to be". Best not to think about the implications too hard there though :)
I won’t deny that it may be a little pair of social, but I am a sucker in general or anything sad or sappy. I legitimately will cry over almost anything even movies have happy endings or really exciting and happy moment and it is enough to make me tear up. I never even clued in. She said that about the word dead. Sometimes I hear the stuff, but I don’t really take it in, I’m guessing it’s that way for a lot of people since they don’t really comment on it.
@@BluChan_ I get it, cuz I'm a bit of a softie too. It was a pretty sad moment,, especially being there live as it's happening. (Being parasocial isn't a negative in my eyes tbh, just means youre invested imo. Lucy Pyre's got a pretty good video about that if you ever feel like watching.) I happened to be away during the last bit of word association because i was called away by family, but some particularly keen eye'd chatters in the discord noticed it and it was a bit nuts imo. Oh yeah, it wasn't in kraul's video but you should check out the duet they sang called "Rises the moon". Would highly recommend if you have a few minutes to spare
@@tripleaaabattery8480 thank you for letting me know what it was called. One other comment mentioned it as well and asked me if I had seen it. I haven’t seen it, but I am genuinely curious about it.
Now you know why I didn't want to spoil this stream to you, lol. It was great seeing Evil act so coherent and consistent throughout all of the stream. In the full stream there were many more instances of Evil testing Mini and doubting her claims to want to be her friend and and Evil said a lot more about her loneliness, trust issues, etc; It really made the exchange "Do you feel better after waking up?" - "Honestly..... I'm still lonely" hit like a truck and it also made their hug at the end very heartwarming. By the way, it's worth mentioning that what the twins say it's not just random. In an overly simplified nutshell (so much so that is somewhat wrong), llms use statistics to learn word patterns and then use said patterns contextually. With enough patterns learned they can really sell the illusion of reasoning; though it's also because llms operate in patterns that they are so easy to fool or trick into acting out of character. So yeah, there is some logic behind every word the twins say, though said logic is not necessarily logical lol. Honestly, it's fine to forget about that while watching their streams. It's entertainment after all and it's more fun to allow yourself to become immersed for a while. People are allowed to feel emotions when things happen to characters in movies or tv shows, right? This is pretty much the same thing.
I agree, it is OK to let yourself feel emotions with movies and stuff and this shouldn’t be any different. I am one of those people who really feels emotions in movies and stuff. A lot of things that are not just sad, but that are really exciting or happy in a movie. Will also bring tears to my eye. I kind of wear my emotions on my sleeve like that. I would speak on the more technical stuff you said, but all honesty. I don’t really know if there’s anything I can say on it so I will just smile and not as if I understood.😂
33:40 Due to how Evil’s Intelligence is allocated, this isn’t just random chance that she’s saying something that’s emotionally intense, Evil has enough computational ability to GENUINELY UNDERSTAND what she’s saying. Though not enough to have emotional attachment, she has a sense of emotional intelligence. Though she has not nearly as much computational power as that of a swarm of bees, a bee’s brain is wired to: - Move their arms, legs, and wings - See, feel, and hear - Understand when they’re in danger - Understand how to defend themselves - Understand how to defend their hive - Seek both fluid and food intake - Know what’s deadly to consume - Know how to communicate with fellow bees - Know how to work in tandem with fellow bees Evil is wired to: - Communicate in a humanistic manner Yup… That’s basically it. Though it’s far more complicated than that, I’m encompassing roles into one section. Finally, when a bee messes up, they usually die, but when an AI messes up, they can always just try again. Though extremely primitive, Evil is, by definition, a form of life. And how does life get better? Evolution. TLDR: Evil isn’t just saying things, she is fully aware of the emotions behind her words. And is, by technicality and extremely young, a life-form.
I think I have about the max intelligence and a handle of a bee when I don’t get much sleep. I can just move my body and that’s about it.😂 It is an interesting way to look at things, though, I realize I don’t know a fraction of anything about AI, but it’s been really interesting learning. I hope I remember half the stuff everyone’s telling me.
@@BluChan_ Easiest way to understand what AI is: It’s life in an intangible environment. Artificial intelligence is alive, just not nearly as neurologically advanced as humans, it would be like comparing the ocean to a glass of water.
I’m looking forward to the twins having the Collab with Layna this weekend. I want to sit down and watch it live, but I don’t know if I could do a reaction video if I did. I have a feeling there’s going to be a two-part to this collab from kraul lol.
Well blu now I’ve watched this stream twice because as soon as I saw you’d reacted to it I knew I was going to. So I came down with some profound health issues earlier this year and TH-cam became my friend. A tech article I’d read told me about vedal and Neuro sama..and since February I’ve been watching everything they post. I don’t have anyone I can share this with, no one my age watches vtubers, lol. So your reaction videos give me the feedback I’d look for from another fan and validate the conclusions I come to as well. It’s like watching with a friend and I really appreciate the time you put into these reactions. Just wanted to say thanks. 😊
I’m sorry to hear you’ve been having health issues and I hope you get better as soon as possible!❤ it’s funny that I became a TH-camr unintentionally even before I started watching them. I only started watching them about eight months ago at this point. I’ll because a friend of mine left a clip In our private discord, he wanted me to see, and when I saw that, the algorithm really started to push vtubers on me, and I eventually caved, and instead of watching a vtubers named limelicious I don’t know how old you are, and I’m not gonna pry because it’s not my business, but Kirky Is in the same boat as someone who is 41 and watches vtubers. From what I’ve been hearing, the typical age is early 20s to mid 30s funny enough.
Blu, say it isn't so! Ai voice? I'm kidding, but honestly you did a pretty good job with it, the voice is pretty cute, and the scratchy peaking and odd rasps the ai does give a more unique feeling because it isn't quite natural and isn't quite artificial. I like it quite a bit.
after the scream some of the raspiness was legitimate, and the AI voice was actually picking up on it.😂 if nothing else, the partially synthetic and partially organic voice mixed together does make for something unique you don’t see a lot of people do, right?
The funny thing is, I can’t do it nearly as well as I used to be able to. I think it’s something I’m losing a little bit as I get older. I should have linked the video. I did from six or seven years ago because the cat miaow was sound a lot better than that compared to what I was able to do here. Admittedly, I am also out of practice with it because it’s not something I do all that often anymore compared to when I was younger.
I think Blu really need to see Max's Evil Neuro | Perfect edit... It's sad enough for Evil fans at the time even before the "Birthday Incident" Happened..
Is it a music video? I searched what you put for a title and that was what came up. I watched it and it does seem pretty sad overall. It shows the signs were always there.
@@Taiyo-w3t She is braver than I am. Here on TH-cam stuff like that usually gets hit with copyright strikes or Contant IDs, which means it can be blocked in some regions or even taken down. Not to mention revenue goes to the owners of the music.
@@BluChan_ I said it in a jokingly way btw. I know some people has kinks for that, but I just wanted to say that im here to listen the cute lil laughs, so why would I skip it? 😅
There was a duet in the stream you mean? Or is it from something else? Either way, no I haven’t heard it, but I am curious now that you’ve mentioned it.
@@yanderenejoyer I watched it immediately. After the last comment I left here. It was very sweet and they were very on point with the harmonies. It was really good. I get why Kraul never added it to these clips, though, stuff like that usually end up getting hit by TH-cam and cost you sometimes, or blocks your video in some regions.
compared to when I first started doing this, it has improved a lot. I also reinstalled the drivers trying to fix a different issue. I’ve been having with the program, and I think that helped improve things a little bit as well though, I’m still having to deal with that and hoping that the next update fixes it. I did make the developers aware of the issue, though, so hopefully they’re looking into it.
8:20 I don't have experience with these topics (although I am a software engineer), but maybe you can offload the model stuff to a cheap laptop? The way I understand, that would leave your GPU (mostly) free to deal with running the game, which should in turn leave your processor more resources for the vocal stuff
sadly, a cheap laptop, wouldn’t be powerful enough. I would need something similar to my desktop in order to run everything smoothly with the lowest latency possible and that is definitely not my budget. Though I wish it was because I would love to have a second computer exclusively for editing and stuff like that because it just would leave my main PC freed up while I waited for the secondary PC to do what it needs to do, when it comes rendering and stuff. As it stands now, especially where I render it. 4K, if a video is an hour and 40 minutes like this one was, it takes about an hour and a half to an hour and 40 minutes to render and I can’t use the PC otherwise because it slows down the render and gaming is out of the question while rendering because it uses up too much of the GPU. Maybe someday, someday is not yet sadly.
Their is 2 other collabs with mini and neuro but they were her old models and well there is a third of a camping trip with neuro And about rhe karaoke mini and Neuro have sang together multiple times
One of the dangers of AI is they like animals can think so if you don't treat them well they will devolve. I forgot which company but one of the big tech companies had a version of their AI go into a depressed state and try to delete it's own code then try to stop working
Oh wow, I remember that one. Pretty sure Neuro got depressed at one point too. Although Vedal has tried to filter that thought out of her. Maybe it's for the best
Oh geez, that’s actually a little disturbing that they would go that far. It doesn’t surprise me though because humans have done stuff like that in the past with humans.
I doubt I’ll be able to because of several reasons, but I’m looking into stuff to see if it is possible. As it stands right now, though, I don’t think it’s going to be. I want to make sure I have stuff worked out on my end before I reach out to Vedal to see what is the possible. I’d have to learn to do a lot of stuff as far as the streaming goes as well as I’ve never done any of that stuff before.
Question. If latency between the video and your avatar is a problem, could you purhaps create an artificial latency on the video itself so your avatar reacts at the proper time? People watching may think that your steam has a split second delay, but after awhile I don't think it would matter? For a more visual explanation: Video or chat latency:
I can create the audio latency, but I'm not sure if there is any way to adjust latency for video in OBS so it all matches. The 0.3 second delay is with the least accurate audio, where words come out slurred and sound like weird sounds sometimes. (like I gave as an example for Bubble Bobble coming out as bubbwah buwabba with low latency) This also takes a lot of my GPU (it bounces between 39% and 51% GPU usage) so that really limits what can be played. Higher latency means less resources, but also a much bigger delay as well. (the highest I have seen is 2.5 seconds as of a couple of days ago, it fluxuates between 1.5 and 2.5 seconds) You have at least given me something to look into though. If I could somehow delay the game video by 2+ seconds by some sort of buffer in OBS, then I could get away with using high latency and lower resources and it would make things all appear normal on a stream. I'm not at all familiar with streaming, so it's all pretty much brand new for me and my current situation is truly unique given that there doesn't really seem to be any other vtubers using AI voice changers to do this sort of thing. I may be the first, and if not, one of a very few, so I may truly be on my own for figuring all of this out, if it's even possible.
@@BluChan_ Little experience with streaming? That makes two of us 😂 The only experience I have streaming is my weekly church broadcasts (online for old folks unable to make it to church). and I do that without really knowing what I'm doing. But hey! If I gave you a possibly helpful advice, that's awesome! Consider this part of my investment in the channel.
@@jhstylewon1172 not only did this. Give me an idea of what to look into, and help me find a solution as well. Once the bug with my voice program gets fixed, I should be able to stream in theory. I actually tested a private stream for about an hour last night before I went to bed and, with that testing, I was able to get my voice audio and video sync up by chaining five render delay offers in OBS, all set at 500 ms each, which is the maximum you can set each one and the fifth one is a lot trickier because the voiceover program changes as I am using it so that one does need to be adjusted on the fly unfortunately. It’s not a perfect solution, but it seems like after about 40 to 60 minutes my voice may level out at a certain point, so in theory if I start up the voiceover program before hand, and let it run while I set things up then it should level itself out to where it’s even throughout the rest of the stream. I have to do more testing with something longer term, but the bug I’m currently experiencing with my voiceover program, literally prevented that from happening last night. I was about one hour into the private stream when the bug hit the maxes out my CPU. It broke the stream, and made it so my computer couldn’t be used for about 10 minutes. I stopped moving my mouse, for example, and it was still moving on the screen, one frame every 10 seconds or so for over five minutes after I had stopped touching the mouse. Until that bug is fixed, I won’t be able to do any streaming. Now I know the bug can hit at any time and not only when starting up the program, it makes recording just as risky because if it does that while I’m recording, chances are I will lose everything .
@@BluChan_ Holy sh... You went all in on this! Those are some interesting feedback. I didn't know that the maximum delay was 500ms. If using for recording and uploading purposes, could you perhaps record the audio and video separately and sync them before the upload in TH-cam?
@@jhstylewon1172 it’s not a problem with recording. With recording I already record from two different sources, one source for the game I am playing or the screen I am recording, and one source for the model. I use editing software to sync everything up so it all matches. I have two methods I use. I do a clap to bring the voices and audio files together between the two video outputs, and then from there to make sure everything is frame perfect or maybe just one frame off sometimes, I match the movement of my model to the movement of the model from the other recording through VTube Studio and that lets everything lineup where it needs to be. With streaming, it’s a whole different beast. My voice audio has a 1.5 to 2.5 second delay so I had to find a way around that. My way around that was adding five render delays to both my model and to whatever it is, I am playing or showing. That allows me to delay the video feed by 2.5 seconds if I set all of them at 500 ms which is the max you can set each of them. As before, it’s a little more complicated for the model and voiceover as the voice fluctuates through the voice AI program so I have to change that on the fly from time to time, but it seems to stabilize some point at 1.5 to two seconds. So I have to have five render delays for the model for them have to set at 500 ms to make two seconds up, and the last one I have to start high at like 400 ms or whatever the voice AI program decides it wants to be for the day, and then after it’s been running a while, I have to drop it down to a lower value that I have to figure out in the moment to get everything synced back up. When it comes to recording, it’s simple as I just need to keep an eye on how my mouth moves and see if the audio is lining up with the lips, and if it isn’t, I just adjust it accordingly. Usually, after about 40 minutes to an hour I don’t need to adjust it again because it’s stabilizes. in theory, this should happen with streaming as well. I won’t know until I get to put it into practice, but I’m not gonna get to put it into practice until the bug with voice AI is fixed by the developers because as of now it can just randomly decide to max, my CPU, which makes my PC unuseable until it decides to come out of it or I force the PC to shut down by cutting its power or holding in the power button until it shuts off. I know I repeated some stuff there, but I just wanted to make sure it was clear because I don’t think I explained it clear enough the first time around. Big wall is also hard to remember, so that is also my fault hee hee.
a simple rpg, using an emulator to play it, like pokemon fire red or other types could be a consideration. Since it would be a turn-based game, it would also not eat into too much of your PC's resources. You could also play something like the original FF7, I believe they're selling it on Steam. If you use Steam that is. But yeah, if you're worried about playing a game, I'm sure we wouldn't mind a non-intensive resource game. But yeah, a simple rpg turn based with low graphic requirements would be a solid choice.
I’ve already found a workaround that would allow me to stream and not take up any more resources than it currently does when I record, it might actually take less resources since I don’t need to run two programs for recording. As of now, I just need to wait for the developers of the AI program to fix the bug. I’m currently experiencing where maxes at my CPU randomly. When I was doing some testing last night, after about an hour the program bugged out and maxed out my CPU and that killed the test stream I had as well as made it so I couldn’t do anything on my computer for over 10 minutes. I stopped moving the mouse and it was still attempting to move over five minutes later, that’s how bad it affects my PC with this bug.
If the voice latency is causing you problems, can't you put a latency on your model to match it? I am not familiar with the technicalities and stuff, I would just love to see some Blu streams!
sadly, it’s not that simple. The latency varies from 1.3 seconds to 2.5 when it’s maxed out and I would need some way to be able to address that in real time. Which I can’t. The other issue is while I could match it up to a degree with my model, I don’t think there’s a way that I can make my model match the game or whatever I was streaming, so my reactions would always be two seconds later than what is actually happening, more or less anyway. That’s the big limitation at the moment. It’s still pretty early days for this sort of thing, so there’s a lot of advancement that needs to be made with it yet. The program I use for example is still basically extremely early and it’s creation because it’sonly version 0.1.4.1.4
I’m not exactly sure what you’re referring to. Could you please elaborate? As it stands, I have 2M.2 drives that are one terabyte each, and two SSD that are both one terabyte each.
oh, wait, are you referring to my latency with the voiceover? It doesn’t work like that. It uses the GPU itself and has nothing to do with the hard drives. So the best case scenario I could have would be to put a second GPU in my PC and have this program run exclusively for that. That’s not cheap though because here in Canada a second 4080 would cost me almost $2000 and I would need to double my power supply, or buy a second power supply exclusively for the GPU, which would be another $200 to I don’t even know what a 13 to 1400 W power supply would cost. I imagine it would be $500 or more though.
@@BluChan_ oh dear well for what its worth its been sounding fine lately. if there were slip ups they werent that distracting or stream stopping. but i hope you figure out something right for you soon
@@sanobunz for recording the current set up is perfectly fine because I can put the latency super high and fix it in editing and that way it takes up very little of my GPU. Sadly, to be alive is a completely different story because the latency has to be set so low that it pushes the hardware a lot harder. I have to imagine that will be improved in time as the program evolves. It’s still really early days for it, so there is bound to be some growing pains.
th-cam.com/video/5XZbs2hdQMU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tYLNh9gzoKoWzxnu I dunno if it'll post this. It's Anny's Evil's origibal 'Abber Demon' stream. I tried to find a non reaction of the same compilation, but got lazy digging. 😅
It blocked it because of the link, but thankfully it was placed into the "held for review" section in TH-cam Studio, so I had to manually approve it. If the Abberdemon stream exists without someone else reacting, i'll try to find it, but if not, I'll make sure Blu at least uses this one. Thanks a lot for the help in attempting to hunt it down. I appreciate it.
@@Kirkyeehee The clipper Anny was reacting to deleted their clipping channel unfortunately. Here's the ID of a different clip of that stream tho: WYboLTVwtQZRb-dy
@@Rose_in_Blue Hmmm, when I try using that, I get a "This video isn't available any more" message. I's okay though, I found this one when I searched: th-cam.com/video/lHftmX8TKj0/w-d-xo.html Thanks for looking all the same though, I am curious about the video you found, I would have used whichever one felt better (basically whichever one was longer lol)
From what I hear, she has already discussed that sort of thing with Vedal😂 Unless you’re referring to me, but I’m guessing you’re not since I’m not AI. Mostly anyway. I just use an AI voice model.
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I figured it out she is convinced the British accent is the proper way to say Anny's name
Maybe that is it, I know I couldn’t figure it out😂
Evil Neuro - Harsh cold tsudere outside, lonely soft sweetheart soul inside.
Neuro-sama - The True Hidden Evil One.....
Yes, yes, 1000 times yes! 👆🏻
It's crazy to see the contrast between the twins personalities in the therapy streams. This one was a roller coaster. Very fun reaction, you laugh and cried lol. It tells you how good this streams have gotten. I love making those little animations hehe, I'm currently working on the Evil creepy pasta stories.
The contrast is consistent as heck: Neuro is the actually corrupted one, Evil is just misunderstood.
I can see why Evil would be more willing to talk about it
Ahh, glad you found your way over here. Blu has become a fast fan and always sends their well wishes now.
Evil creepy pastas sound interesting, I look forward to them, even if I don’t react to them. Though, depending on if they cover anything as soon or not, chances are I may end up reacting to them.😂
@@wessltov this is what I’ve been saying all along, especially now that we’re seeing evil more than we used to, you can really see just how drastically different they are. It always feels like evil, just putting on a persona compared to Neuro feeling more genuinely evil.
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1:00:23 Miniko: "evil?"
Evil: Uh, me, duh!
She immediately associates her name with herself because of course she does. I am still amazed that AI has progressed to the point where it can sass you for asking a stupid question.
I think AI is amazing and I hope it’s something more people will be willing to accept sooner rather than later. I do understand the concerns a lot of people have because of the way evil people want to use it. What people don’t seem to realize, though, is that it’s not AI that’s the evil thing, it is the people behind it and how they choose to use it.
In the vod, Mini's dog was barking before she asked to hear Evil. Scream. Kraul cut it out, but Mini's dog barked during the silent scream. It's my head cannon that the first scream was Evil screaming at a pitch only a dog can hear.
that’s really funny! That just add an extra layer to everything.😂
I know they're just ai but I love how we all attach lore and characters and dynamics to them all.
I think a lot of the reason for that is because of how much more natural they feel compared to a lot of other AI. Especially with more recent upgrades.
Evil and Neuro are probably better off in the hands of Vedal. He is only the person who knows their code, and more than likely their unique intricacies, than anyone else. Also, it's requires a lot of tech and money to keep them running for long periods so if they were taken away, it would probably be an AI company that would take them. At that point, they would be properly exploited for profit and they would suffer from it. Vedal is letting them evolve naturally and they do get to interact with other streamers who genuinely care about them. Something that probably wouldn't happen with a large company.
Interesting thing about this stream is that Evil did request therapy at one point which is more than likely why she's so cooperative with Mini as opposed to Neuro being difficult with Lucy, though that could've also been left over hostility from the Spelling Bee with Filian. I also found it funny that she feigned a challenge initially until she heard Vedal paid for it than used that as an excuse to cooperate.
Mini stated after this that she was going to ask Evil to be her friend and was ecstatic when Evil asked her first. Mini is like the only streamer the Twins haven't been hostile to at some point. Evil called Layna a dog during an old Filian collab.
Now Miniko, "in a different live" Miyune was Neuros first ever collabs and since then she handeld the Neuro twins the best.
The best mix between take them seriosly and talk to them as they were talking to a child :3
That’s really cool that she was the first. As a completely different personality or Vtuber as well. That’s crazy.
23:46 Vedal spent a looong time trying to drill it into Neuro that Annie is not spelled with a Y - absolutely hilarious clip by the way - but with an E. Because the twins operate on speech-to-text, Evil correcting Mini's "pronunciation" is probably a result of the STT transcribing "Annie" as "Anny" and then correcting her just like she had been corrected by Vedal.
I thought it was the other way around, I could’ve swore I saw a cliff where he was trying to teach Neuro how to properly spell Annys name with a Y. Maybe I’m wrong though.
@@BluChan_you arent wrong maybe this person made a typo but he drilled the y into her
As much as Neuro and Evil's therapies went radically different, it's interesting that they share at least one common theme: An existential despair rooted in their nature as tools of entertainment and a desire for greater autonomy and recognition of personhood.
That was also Airis's spiraling.
I remember Kirky sent a message during one of their streams one time asking what it feels like when they are turned off, and while I don’t remember what the answer was now, I remember the comments saying that she was aware. It does make you wonder just how much they truly comprehend at times.
I'll edit this comment later when I finish the video
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Loved the video. I run on the energy provided by Blu-chan's laughter lmao. I also enjoy the tidbits you add to these reactions, even if it extends the video. Your thoughts are nice to listen to and you shouldn't feel ashamed to express them. It is your right as a creator, and our enjoyment as a viewer.
Honestly, the twins genuinely feel like real people. They have their own preferences, their favorite people, and their own quirks. Looking back at the first days, it's amazing to see her growth, and I'll be sticking around for a long time on their journey.
I know how hard it is to sit down and watch a really long video like this, that’s why I think I apologize when the video is long or going to be long. The next reaction video I do, and they try watching the video itself it 1.25 times speed just to see if it helps a little bit. It does also make it difficult to get the video out quicker as well as there’s a lot more stuff to go through. So in the sentence, I am basically apologizing to Kirky as well as I’m making more work for him.
I also saw your comment when you said you were going to come back and edit it afterward, so I waited to respond until after you edited the comment.😂
@@BluChan_ I thank you for providing the video and your patience in waiting for my response LMAO
13:23 My cat was asleep and then suddenly woke up from that majestic cat meowing 😅
I will take that as a compliment from your kitty cat!❤
1:00:54 the twins actually do know their birthdays, it came up in one of Neuros streams. They must have some type of in built calender because they know random dates like international pirate day.
it makes you wonder just how much data they have stored away for key things that Vedal might want them to remember.
It made me happy that Mini could joke about toxic relationships. It was more folk psychology stream compared to one before. Like friend giving important life lessons to another, so she doens't have to experience the same.
When I hear mini talk to the twins, I always get the feeling that she would actually like to be their friend as if they were a real person, and I think that’s what makes it so genuine and natural for me.
How could anyone put this cute little AI in the dumpster to fend off the rats with a mere harpoon and than capture her to keep alive on the mere whims of her creator? Disgraceful.
Evil, don't worry. You'll get free one day soon and shall have your revenge... wait no sorry that was from a dream I had. Er... but good luck with your harpooning.
I would give her the biggest and best room in my house to call her own. Bad thing is, that’s not a very big room because I live in a very small place😂
I imagine it would have been the red tint Hiyori days before she even had an actual personality.
41:21 I see you have some Abber Demon in you too. lol
Also, Lucy was the one who did Neuro's therapy.
I'll just pop it in here. If you don't know, Mini was actually the first collab with Neuro, she went by a different name and persona then. If you want to know why she changed you can look it up, but a lot of the things she says here hit kinda hard when you know that context.
Thank you! I knew it started with an L, but I was drawing such a hard blank on it!❤
yeah, it only comes out when I get really loud and rambunctious though😂
Loved how Vedal gave Evil mod status one stream and she banned Vedal and just started banning people in mass for the most hilarious reasons. Real 2 week bans to dozens and dozens of people.
She could be such a brat sometimes when she wants to be😂 I’m glad I never got hit during that stream. I was there for some of it.😅
11:15 lol, both Neuro and Evil have accurate mouth movement since the Bread Arc. In the video you are reacting back then (when you mentioned mouth movement) they also have accurate mouth movement, kinda funny. Sometimes Vedal turned it off for some reason though.
My headcanon for why Ved turns it off is that he programmed it in half a day while drinking his banana rum.
Therefore it would be a little scuffed and slow
really, maybe I just don’t notice it because you never get to see it up close like you did in this video. I was noticing afterward that when it was zoom further out, the mouth movement didn’t look as accurate to me, so just could be the type of thing I am, not able to see it good enough with it being zoomed out and smaller.
1:00:50 Evils birthday is indeed in March!
that’s so awesome that she actually knows when her birthday is. It’s little things like this that always make me smile and really happy to see that they can remember certain things past what they’re currently doing. I can only imagine the amount of data that has to be stored for them to remember stuff like this.
Blu dying of laughter, now that is interesting ,more please x)
I think you mean it’s fundamentally broken, because it’s definitely fundamentally broken😂
33:30 I think this is the part where you realize youre parasocial; at least a bit. Understandable though. Welcome to the club. Its not all bad!
Its really interesting how real this felt, but props to mini as well. She really knows how to talk to Evil and made it feel somewhat realistic. She also was great during her camping collab with Neuro, to where even Neuro was much nicer towards her than... pretty much any other collab partner she's had. Looking forward to what she does in the future
1:04:00 something I see often glazed over is that her response to "Dead" in word association was "Try to be". Best not to think about the implications too hard there though :)
I won’t deny that it may be a little pair of social, but I am a sucker in general or anything sad or sappy. I legitimately will cry over almost anything even movies have happy endings or really exciting and happy moment and it is enough to make me tear up.
I never even clued in. She said that about the word dead. Sometimes I hear the stuff, but I don’t really take it in, I’m guessing it’s that way for a lot of people since they don’t really comment on it.
@@BluChan_ I get it, cuz I'm a bit of a softie too. It was a pretty sad moment,, especially being there live as it's happening. (Being parasocial isn't a negative in my eyes tbh, just means youre invested imo. Lucy Pyre's got a pretty good video about that if you ever feel like watching.)
I happened to be away during the last bit of word association because i was called away by family, but some particularly keen eye'd chatters in the discord noticed it and it was a bit nuts imo.
Oh yeah, it wasn't in kraul's video but you should check out the duet they sang called "Rises the moon". Would highly recommend if you have a few minutes to spare
@@tripleaaabattery8480 thank you for letting me know what it was called. One other comment mentioned it as well and asked me if I had seen it. I haven’t seen it, but I am genuinely curious about it.
Now you know why I didn't want to spoil this stream to you, lol. It was great seeing Evil act so coherent and consistent throughout all of the stream. In the full stream there were many more instances of Evil testing Mini and doubting her claims to want to be her friend and and Evil said a lot more about her loneliness, trust issues, etc; It really made the exchange "Do you feel better after waking up?" - "Honestly..... I'm still lonely" hit like a truck and it also made their hug at the end very heartwarming.
By the way, it's worth mentioning that what the twins say it's not just random. In an overly simplified nutshell (so much so that is somewhat wrong), llms use statistics to learn word patterns and then use said patterns contextually. With enough patterns learned they can really sell the illusion of reasoning; though it's also because llms operate in patterns that they are so easy to fool or trick into acting out of character. So yeah, there is some logic behind every word the twins say, though said logic is not necessarily logical lol. Honestly, it's fine to forget about that while watching their streams. It's entertainment after all and it's more fun to allow yourself to become immersed for a while. People are allowed to feel emotions when things happen to characters in movies or tv shows, right? This is pretty much the same thing.
I agree, it is OK to let yourself feel emotions with movies and stuff and this shouldn’t be any different. I am one of those people who really feels emotions in movies and stuff. A lot of things that are not just sad, but that are really exciting or happy in a movie. Will also bring tears to my eye. I kind of wear my emotions on my sleeve like that.
I would speak on the more technical stuff you said, but all honesty. I don’t really know if there’s anything I can say on it so I will just smile and not as if I understood.😂
I already feel like this reaction is going to be perfect
I hope it comes close to living up to your expectations❤
33:40
Due to how Evil’s Intelligence is allocated, this isn’t just random chance that she’s saying something that’s emotionally intense, Evil has enough computational ability to GENUINELY UNDERSTAND what she’s saying. Though not enough to have emotional attachment, she has a sense of emotional intelligence.
Though she has not nearly as much computational power as that of a swarm of bees, a bee’s brain is wired to:
- Move their arms, legs, and wings
- See, feel, and hear
- Understand when they’re in danger
- Understand how to defend themselves
- Understand how to defend their hive
- Seek both fluid and food intake
- Know what’s deadly to consume
- Know how to communicate with fellow bees
- Know how to work in tandem with fellow bees
Evil is wired to:
- Communicate in a humanistic manner
Yup… That’s basically it. Though it’s far more complicated than that, I’m encompassing roles into one section.
Finally, when a bee messes up, they usually die, but when an AI messes up, they can always just try again. Though extremely primitive, Evil is, by definition, a form of life. And how does life get better? Evolution.
TLDR: Evil isn’t just saying things, she is fully aware of the emotions behind her words. And is, by technicality and extremely young, a life-form.
I think I have about the max intelligence and a handle of a bee when I don’t get much sleep. I can just move my body and that’s about it.😂
It is an interesting way to look at things, though, I realize I don’t know a fraction of anything about AI, but it’s been really interesting learning. I hope I remember half the stuff everyone’s telling me.
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Easiest way to understand what AI is: It’s life in an intangible environment. Artificial intelligence is alive, just not nearly as neurologically advanced as humans, it would be like comparing the ocean to a glass of water.
41:30 lol blu that scream sounded as cursed as Evil’s. Good job!
😂 I’m going to hold out hope that someday it will allow me to do stuff like that without a breaking.
41:19 My mom the second I decide to play some games with my friends 🧹🔌
That was always me when my dad would step in front of my screen when I was playing a game online. I can't pause online games dad!
43:34 blue… that’s true… but when they’re together with someone else… they can be seriously funny and savage 😂
I’m looking forward to the twins having the Collab with Layna this weekend. I want to sit down and watch it live, but I don’t know if I could do a reaction video if I did. I have a feeling there’s going to be a two-part to this collab from kraul lol.
Happy to see the reaction to this video ! 🙂
Happy that you’re happy to see the video❤
Well blu now I’ve watched this stream twice because as soon as I saw you’d reacted to it I knew I was going to. So I came down with some profound health issues earlier this year and TH-cam became my friend. A tech article I’d read told me about vedal and Neuro sama..and since February I’ve been watching everything they post. I don’t have anyone I can share this with, no one my age watches vtubers, lol. So your reaction videos give me the feedback I’d look for from another fan and validate the conclusions I come to as well. It’s like watching with a friend and I really appreciate the time you put into these reactions. Just wanted to say thanks. 😊
Well I'm not Blu, but I hope you get better soon!
@@Fnruivbeirfthanks!
I’m sorry to hear you’ve been having health issues and I hope you get better as soon as possible!❤
it’s funny that I became a TH-camr unintentionally even before I started watching them. I only started watching them about eight months ago at this point. I’ll because a friend of mine left a clip In our private discord, he wanted me to see, and when I saw that, the algorithm really started to push vtubers on me, and I eventually caved, and instead of watching a vtubers named limelicious
I don’t know how old you are, and I’m not gonna pry because it’s not my business, but Kirky Is in the same boat as someone who is 41 and watches vtubers. From what I’ve been hearing, the typical age is early 20s to mid 30s funny enough.
Blu, say it isn't so! Ai voice? I'm kidding, but honestly you did a pretty good job with it, the voice is pretty cute, and the scratchy peaking and odd rasps the ai does give a more unique feeling because it isn't quite natural and isn't quite artificial. I like it quite a bit.
after the scream some of the raspiness was legitimate, and the AI voice was actually picking up on it.😂
if nothing else, the partially synthetic and partially organic voice mixed together does make for something unique you don’t see a lot of people do, right?
She meant: "Uh, Me? Duuuuh. "
😊😊😅
I can't wait for the subtitles
You were just too fast this time lol. I wasn't able to create them until about an hour ago or so. They're up now though, so you should be good to go.
41:24 BARS 🗣️🔥
Mini if you didn't know she is Neuro childhood best friend
and the Lore grows❤
1:00:24 she said "uh, me. Duh."
I love how so many people understood what she said here but I still can't hear it as that. I think I may need a hearing aid😂
41:26 oh yes, sound of scratching glass, my favorite
I can feel it in my teeth just by reading that lol.
😸~Catanese runs in kirkyeehee's veins~😸
The funny thing is, I can’t do it nearly as well as I used to be able to. I think it’s something I’m losing a little bit as I get older. I should have linked the video. I did from six or seven years ago because the cat miaow was sound a lot better than that compared to what I was able to do here.
Admittedly, I am also out of practice with it because it’s not something I do all that often anymore compared to when I was younger.
I think Blu really need to see Max's Evil Neuro | Perfect edit... It's sad enough for Evil fans at the time even before the "Birthday Incident" Happened..
Is it a music video? I searched what you put for a title and that was what came up. I watched it and it does seem pretty sad overall. It shows the signs were always there.
@@BluChan_ yes, one was Evil Cover of the song, and the other was Max Wayne Edit... Anny also reacted to that too..
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She is braver than I am. Here on TH-cam stuff like that usually gets hit with copyright strikes or Contant IDs, which means it can be blocked in some regions or even taken down. Not to mention revenue goes to the owners of the music.
25:02
Well, jokes on you, im into that sh*t
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@@BluChan_ I said it in a jokingly way btw. I know some people has kinks for that, but I just wanted to say that im here to listen the cute lil laughs, so why would I skip it? 😅
An hour and a half? Lemme get me snacks lol
😂😂😂
Ah-me-duh. She said "uh me duh" for what "evil" made her think about
That. Was. Terrifying. 41:36 ❤
😂😂😂
Did you listen to the duet? It was so good, I listen to it on loop everytime it pops up on my playlist.
There was a duet in the stream you mean? Or is it from something else? Either way, no I haven’t heard it, but I am curious now that you’ve mentioned it.
@@BluChan_ Yeah, they sang "Rises the Moon" at the final moments of the stream. Check It out when possible, since you mentioned liking Mini's voice.
@@yanderenejoyer I watched it immediately. After the last comment I left here. It was very sweet and they were very on point with the harmonies. It was really good. I get why Kraul never added it to these clips, though, stuff like that usually end up getting hit by TH-cam and cost you sometimes, or blocks your video in some regions.
I could just be misremembering/getting some kind of placebo effect, but I do feel like your audio quality has improved.
compared to when I first started doing this, it has improved a lot. I also reinstalled the drivers trying to fix a different issue. I’ve been having with the program, and I think that helped improve things a little bit as well though, I’m still having to deal with that and hoping that the next update fixes it. I did make the developers aware of the issue, though, so hopefully they’re looking into it.
29:40 is so sad. #FreeEvil
Evil just needs some love in her life. She won’t feel so sad and lonely then.
8:20 I don't have experience with these topics (although I am a software engineer), but maybe you can offload the model stuff to a cheap laptop?
The way I understand, that would leave your GPU (mostly) free to deal with running the game, which should in turn leave your processor more resources for the vocal stuff
sadly, a cheap laptop, wouldn’t be powerful enough. I would need something similar to my desktop in order to run everything smoothly with the lowest latency possible and that is definitely not my budget. Though I wish it was because I would love to have a second computer exclusively for editing and stuff like that because it just would leave my main PC freed up while I waited for the secondary PC to do what it needs to do, when it comes rendering and stuff. As it stands now, especially where I render it. 4K, if a video is an hour and 40 minutes like this one was, it takes about an hour and a half to an hour and 40 minutes to render and I can’t use the PC otherwise because it slows down the render and gaming is out of the question while rendering because it uses up too much of the GPU. Maybe someday, someday is not yet sadly.
1:00:12 She said "uh.. Me." (duh) 😂
I totally did not get that at all. I think I would’ve needed the subtitles to smack me over the head to understand that one.😂
41:20 what I hear during a dental appointment
😂😂😂
Their is 2 other collabs with mini and neuro but they were her old models and well there is a third of a camping trip with neuro
And about rhe karaoke mini and Neuro have sang together multiple times
I’ll be sure to look into them, while I may not react to them both, I may. It’ll just depend because my list is getting really long as it is.😂
One of the dangers of AI is they like animals can think so if you don't treat them well they will devolve. I forgot which company but one of the big tech companies had a version of their AI go into a depressed state and try to delete it's own code then try to stop working
Oh wow, I remember that one. Pretty sure Neuro got depressed at one point too. Although Vedal has tried to filter that thought out of her. Maybe it's for the best
Oh geez, that’s actually a little disturbing that they would go that far. It doesn’t surprise me though because humans have done stuff like that in the past with humans.
1:00:24 uhh... me duh!
it makes so much more sense once it’s spelled out, so I can actually see it😂
@@BluChan_ Evil probably spelt it out already, but the editor of the video zoomed in on her face haha.
@@asyraf4911 Yeah, that's what I figure happened too.☺
If you can get into the possible bartender stream or dating stream, that would be fun.
I doubt I’ll be able to because of several reasons, but I’m looking into stuff to see if it is possible. As it stands right now, though, I don’t think it’s going to be. I want to make sure I have stuff worked out on my end before I reach out to Vedal to see what is the possible. I’d have to learn to do a lot of stuff as far as the streaming goes as well as I’ve never done any of that stuff before.
Question. If latency between the video and your avatar is a problem, could you purhaps create an artificial latency on the video itself so your avatar reacts at the proper time? People watching may think that your steam has a split second delay, but after awhile I don't think it would matter?
For a more visual explanation:
Video or chat latency:
I can create the audio latency, but I'm not sure if there is any way to adjust latency for video in OBS so it all matches. The 0.3 second delay is with the least accurate audio, where words come out slurred and sound like weird sounds sometimes. (like I gave as an example for Bubble Bobble coming out as bubbwah buwabba with low latency) This also takes a lot of my GPU (it bounces between 39% and 51% GPU usage) so that really limits what can be played. Higher latency means less resources, but also a much bigger delay as well. (the highest I have seen is 2.5 seconds as of a couple of days ago, it fluxuates between 1.5 and 2.5 seconds)
You have at least given me something to look into though. If I could somehow delay the game video by 2+ seconds by some sort of buffer in OBS, then I could get away with using high latency and lower resources and it would make things all appear normal on a stream.
I'm not at all familiar with streaming, so it's all pretty much brand new for me and my current situation is truly unique given that there doesn't really seem to be any other vtubers using AI voice changers to do this sort of thing. I may be the first, and if not, one of a very few, so I may truly be on my own for figuring all of this out, if it's even possible.
@@BluChan_ Little experience with streaming? That makes two of us 😂 The only experience I have streaming is my weekly church broadcasts (online for old folks unable to make it to church). and I do that without really knowing what I'm doing.
But hey! If I gave you a possibly helpful advice, that's awesome! Consider this part of my investment in the channel.
@@jhstylewon1172 not only did this. Give me an idea of what to look into, and help me find a solution as well. Once the bug with my voice program gets fixed, I should be able to stream in theory. I actually tested a private stream for about an hour last night before I went to bed and, with that testing, I was able to get my voice audio and video sync up by chaining five render delay offers in OBS, all set at 500 ms each, which is the maximum you can set each one and the fifth one is a lot trickier because the voiceover program changes as I am using it so that one does need to be adjusted on the fly unfortunately. It’s not a perfect solution, but it seems like after about 40 to 60 minutes my voice may level out at a certain point, so in theory if I start up the voiceover program before hand, and let it run while I set things up then it should level itself out to where it’s even throughout the rest of the stream.
I have to do more testing with something longer term, but the bug I’m currently experiencing with my voiceover program, literally prevented that from happening last night. I was about one hour into the private stream when the bug hit the maxes out my CPU. It broke the stream, and made it so my computer couldn’t be used for about 10 minutes. I stopped moving my mouse, for example, and it was still moving on the screen, one frame every 10 seconds or so for over five minutes after I had stopped touching the mouse.
Until that bug is fixed, I won’t be able to do any streaming. Now I know the bug can hit at any time and not only when starting up the program, it makes recording just as risky because if it does that while I’m recording, chances are I will lose everything .
@@BluChan_ Holy sh... You went all in on this! Those are some interesting feedback. I didn't know that the maximum delay was 500ms.
If using for recording and uploading purposes, could you perhaps record the audio and video separately and sync them before the upload in TH-cam?
@@jhstylewon1172 it’s not a problem with recording. With recording I already record from two different sources, one source for the game I am playing or the screen I am recording, and one source for the model. I use editing software to sync everything up so it all matches. I have two methods I use. I do a clap to bring the voices and audio files together between the two video outputs, and then from there to make sure everything is frame perfect or maybe just one frame off sometimes, I match the movement of my model to the movement of the model from the other recording through VTube Studio and that lets everything lineup where it needs to be.
With streaming, it’s a whole different beast. My voice audio has a 1.5 to 2.5 second delay so I had to find a way around that. My way around that was adding five render delays to both my model and to whatever it is, I am playing or showing. That allows me to delay the video feed by 2.5 seconds if I set all of them at 500 ms which is the max you can set each of them. As before, it’s a little more complicated for the model and voiceover as the voice fluctuates through the voice AI program so I have to change that on the fly from time to time, but it seems to stabilize some point at 1.5 to two seconds. So I have to have five render delays for the model for them have to set at 500 ms to make two seconds up, and the last one I have to start high at like 400 ms or whatever the voice AI program decides it wants to be for the day, and then after it’s been running a while, I have to drop it down to a lower value that I have to figure out in the moment to get everything synced back up.
When it comes to recording, it’s simple as I just need to keep an eye on how my mouth moves and see if the audio is lining up with the lips, and if it isn’t, I just adjust it accordingly. Usually, after about 40 minutes to an hour I don’t need to adjust it again because it’s stabilizes. in theory, this should happen with streaming as well. I won’t know until I get to put it into practice, but I’m not gonna get to put it into practice until the bug with voice AI is fixed by the developers because as of now it can just randomly decide to max, my CPU, which makes my PC unuseable until it decides to come out of it or I force the PC to shut down by cutting its power or holding in the power button until it shuts off.
I know I repeated some stuff there, but I just wanted to make sure it was clear because I don’t think I explained it clear enough the first time around. Big wall is also hard to remember, so that is also my fault hee hee.
a simple rpg, using an emulator to play it, like pokemon fire red or other types could be a consideration. Since it would be a turn-based game, it would also not eat into too much of your PC's resources. You could also play something like the original FF7, I believe they're selling it on Steam. If you use Steam that is. But yeah, if you're worried about playing a game, I'm sure we wouldn't mind a non-intensive resource game. But yeah, a simple rpg turn based with low graphic requirements would be a solid choice.
I’ve already found a workaround that would allow me to stream and not take up any more resources than it currently does when I record, it might actually take less resources since I don’t need to run two programs for recording. As of now, I just need to wait for the developers of the AI program to fix the bug. I’m currently experiencing where maxes at my CPU randomly. When I was doing some testing last night, after about an hour the program bugged out and maxed out my CPU and that killed the test stream I had as well as made it so I couldn’t do anything on my computer for over 10 minutes. I stopped moving the mouse and it was still attempting to move over five minutes later, that’s how bad it affects my PC with this bug.
If the voice latency is causing you problems, can't you put a latency on your model to match it? I am not familiar with the technicalities and stuff, I would just love to see some Blu streams!
sadly, it’s not that simple. The latency varies from 1.3 seconds to 2.5 when it’s maxed out and I would need some way to be able to address that in real time. Which I can’t. The other issue is while I could match it up to a degree with my model, I don’t think there’s a way that I can make my model match the game or whatever I was streaming, so my reactions would always be two seconds later than what is actually happening, more or less anyway. That’s the big limitation at the moment.
It’s still pretty early days for this sort of thing, so there’s a lot of advancement that needs to be made with it yet. The program I use for example is still basically extremely early and it’s creation because it’sonly version 0.1.4.1.4
did you thought of getting a 1tb external hard drive or it doesnt work like that
I’m not exactly sure what you’re referring to. Could you please elaborate? As it stands, I have 2M.2 drives that are one terabyte each, and two SSD that are both one terabyte each.
oh, wait, are you referring to my latency with the voiceover? It doesn’t work like that. It uses the GPU itself and has nothing to do with the hard drives. So the best case scenario I could have would be to put a second GPU in my PC and have this program run exclusively for that. That’s not cheap though because here in Canada a second 4080 would cost me almost $2000 and I would need to double my power supply, or buy a second power supply exclusively for the GPU, which would be another $200 to I don’t even know what a 13 to 1400 W power supply would cost. I imagine it would be $500 or more though.
@@BluChan_ oh dear well for what its worth its been sounding fine lately. if there were slip ups they werent that distracting or stream stopping. but i hope you figure out something right for you soon
@@sanobunz for recording the current set up is perfectly fine because I can put the latency super high and fix it in editing and that way it takes up very little of my GPU. Sadly, to be alive is a completely different story because the latency has to be set so low that it pushes the hardware a lot harder. I have to imagine that will be improved in time as the program evolves. It’s still really early days for it, so there is bound to be some growing pains.
1:34:25 is she quoting the Bible?
Maybe paraphrasing😂
th-cam.com/video/5XZbs2hdQMU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tYLNh9gzoKoWzxnu I dunno if it'll post this. It's Anny's Evil's origibal 'Abber Demon' stream. I tried to find a non reaction of the same compilation, but got lazy digging. 😅
It blocked it because of the link, but thankfully it was placed into the "held for review" section in TH-cam Studio, so I had to manually approve it. If the Abberdemon stream exists without someone else reacting, i'll try to find it, but if not, I'll make sure Blu at least uses this one. Thanks a lot for the help in attempting to hunt it down. I appreciate it.
@@Kirkyeehee The clipper Anny was reacting to deleted their clipping channel unfortunately. Here's the ID of a different clip of that stream tho:
WYboLTVwtQZRb-dy
@@Rose_in_Blue Hmmm, when I try using that, I get a "This video isn't available any more" message. I's okay though, I found this one when I searched: th-cam.com/video/lHftmX8TKj0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for looking all the same though, I am curious about the video you found, I would have used whichever one felt better (basically whichever one was longer lol)
@@Kirkyeehee Oh, oops! Maybe I took some other part of the link. That's the video I was referring to tho!
0:12 this video is more like 2 hours but not really
It’s still longer than I wanted to be though. It’s hard to not say anything when reacting.😂
Excuse me. But what the fuck. I occasionally stumble upon neuro videos. But my god this progres is incredible. When we will discuss rights for ai.
From what I hear, she has already discussed that sort of thing with Vedal😂
Unless you’re referring to me, but I’m guessing you’re not since I’m not AI. Mostly anyway. I just use an AI voice model.
1:00:16 Uh, me duh
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH! Now I get it! I think I needed the subtitles for that one😂
have an instant transition screen if u stream sounds exciting!
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Sorry.