SORCERER IS THE BEST NEW CLASS IN DARK AND DARKER

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
  • New Dark and Darker wipe and Sorcerer just came out. Not only is it now the most difficult class to play but it is the most rewarding as well, hope you guys enjoy.
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  • @bingbong5743
    @bingbong5743 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Wizard is totally clowned on, what a damn shame

    • @adrianoss.bougas3720
      @adrianoss.bougas3720 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes

    • @Faisal-nx8zy
      @Faisal-nx8zy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally no reason to play wizard now. Trash utility mediocre damage and limited spells. Also you have to take meditate meaning your skill slots are locked. Its sad

    • @adrianoss.bougas3720
      @adrianoss.bougas3720 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Faisal-nx8zy what do you mean, you don't like arcane shield and the 5 damage it does? lmao!

    • @Faisal-nx8zy
      @Faisal-nx8zy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adrianoss.bougas3720 exactly! xD
      The thing is absolute focus is actually good but its gimped by the fact that u HAVE to take meditate :(

  • @lukewilson1282
    @lukewilson1282 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Bro this shit feels like how wizard should be. Being able to cast more than a few spells before having to sit in timeout for 20 seconds is so damn nice it’s unreal. Looking forward to you and Red’s vids the most this wipe, can’t wait to see what y’all cook up.

    • @Ram.cor123
      @Ram.cor123 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yes and no since a sorcerer has innate magical ability while wizards learn it

    • @Drikkerbadevand
      @Drikkerbadevand หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wizard is fine as it is. Dorcerer obviously needs to bd balanced lol

    • @lukewilson1282
      @lukewilson1282 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ram.cor123 my point was less about the lore implications of how the magic is acquired (I’m a wizard enjoyer in the other D&D as well), and more about how it feels to play. Changes like increasing the amount of ignites and magic missiles made wizard a lot better imo, but it still feels like a pain to have to sit your ass down by the campfire after every fight. Wizards have a very high skill cap, but imo their strength isn’t high enough to justify the immense amount of downtime that it requires to get full effect out of them. The fantasy of a “true caster” was just better served by warlock before, and now sorcerer has come around and blown wizard out of the water. Ideally, wizard could have access to “cantrips”, low power spells that refresh their charges over time without having to rest. They might function similar to how sorcerer does but with a combination of longer cooldowns and the ability to store charges in order to differentiate the classes. It would also give them the ability to play much more aggressively in PvP without worrying about getting into a fight and having no spells left to defend themselves, and it makes PVE less committal as well (although probably not as necessary after the mob MR changes).

    • @lukewilson1282
      @lukewilson1282 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Drikkerbadevand not a balance issue, more of a game feel one. Wizard is strong, but feels pretty clunky to play when you need to pop a squat after every fight or risk being ran down by a barb or fighter without any spells left to defend yourself. I’m 100% expecting sorc to be nerfed pretty hard, but it will still be a more fluid, and therefore more fun, experience compared to wizard.

    • @luckymaxxer
      @luckymaxxer หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukewilson1282 LOL! That is just pure skill issue if you use all of your spells into one player, and also thats why you always use Sage, Spell Overload and Quick Chant.

  • @sordmasta6646
    @sordmasta6646 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's like having a magical shotgun, without the need for ammo or a weapon.

  • @Squall598
    @Squall598 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Every class on release has been broken, Warlock, Druid and now Sorcerer. It will get nerfed into the ground, and then buffed to a strong spot before going through a series of nerfs/buffs like the other 2.

    • @cameronmyron5776
      @cameronmyron5776 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hell, even bard was broken when it was new

    • @Squall598
      @Squall598 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameronmyron5776 Very true. I forgot about Bards!

  • @Btk780
    @Btk780 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    It's crazy they put more effort
    Into this one class then the rest combined. Geared sorcerer is kinda crazy

    • @microteag7668
      @microteag7668 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it makes me excited to see if they hope to rework the existing classes to feel as fun as this gameplay does

  • @Toximit
    @Toximit หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    thanks a million for the vid - helped me get started on sorc, but you say "breh" so much lmao it's really funny

    • @wiellin270
      @wiellin270 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has Vallerant voice

  • @k.w.a.s
    @k.w.a.s หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    bro got that repoze accent

  • @Seaneey
    @Seaneey หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    They managed to pull off sorcerer without feeling like wizard

    • @kickrocks4766
      @kickrocks4766 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree I think Wizard just lost 100% of its class identity

  • @Jamcham16
    @Jamcham16 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i feel ur pain , i switched to claw grip a long time ago too , well i would say only takes like a few days to get used to but its really fun to play with claw grip

  • @rizz5228
    @rizz5228 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Try lightning storm it’s hilarious how quickly you melt someone with it

  • @Lauke
    @Lauke หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bind your left click to one of your side mouse buttons

    • @FoxmanSlays
      @FoxmanSlays  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro might be cooking with this one

  • @JoshDoes
    @JoshDoes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome video

    • @FoxmanSlays
      @FoxmanSlays  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks brother

  • @fairiz375
    @fairiz375 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Started the game less than a month ago. Played wizard because i love magic. Haven't mastered it. Wipe came. Plays sorcerer. Obliterated 😂
    Maybe i gotta start playing barb before mastering some of the hardest classes

    • @minombreeslos
      @minombreeslos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You will play barb and get smoked by wizards and sorcerers 😂 that’s what happens to me

  • @lorddrac7824
    @lorddrac7824 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That druid mayqe is a buddy of mine! Lol just screenshot it and sent it to him XD

  • @Frickenheck
    @Frickenheck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice vid dude!

  • @SkulkWalker
    @SkulkWalker 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can u use sword while Q and E as spell selected?

  • @scottyboy9906
    @scottyboy9906 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah the class is broken but the hardest counter is fighters with recurve or crossbow and rangers I've killed 6 sorcs so far with fighter recurve

    • @aedankor2961
      @aedankor2961 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, the best way is, to Play a melee class, ranged? I do not miss playing D&D at all lmfao. It is fun to watch Others Play a Game or two and that is it. Horrible Design choices they had the past years fr.

  • @ardyh8789
    @ardyh8789 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can "turn off" the perk that does -99% move speed by doing any "left click spellcasting" while holding a spell focus. Very useful for chasing

    • @SpringHeeLJaK89
      @SpringHeeLJaK89 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what do you mean holding a spellfocus?

    • @ardyh8789
      @ardyh8789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SpringHeeLJaK89 Spell book or either of the staves, the crystal ball won't work because its left click function is locked to attacking with a weapon

    • @ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999
      @ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ardyh8789 still no clue what you mean

    • @ardyh8789
      @ardyh8789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999 By spell focus I mean a weapon you hold that allows you to cast spells, i.e. the spellbook, magic staff, ceremonial staff, crystal ball, and crystal sword. Normally you can only hold right click to cast spells with these weapons, but if a sorcerer is holding a 2 handed spell focus, spells cast from the left sorcery wheel won't get the effects of the perk that gives +100% magic damage bonus, +100% spell casting speed, and -99% move speed bonus. This is most likely a bug tied connected to the fact that you can't normally cast spells with left click, so the game is probably thinking that you're trying to do basic attacks when in reality you're preparing spells.

  • @glooomful
    @glooomful หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    this might bring me back to the game rs

    • @FoxmanSlays
      @FoxmanSlays  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s so much fun

    • @ahsanejoyo
      @ahsanejoyo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here lol

    • @uwuweeabo2725
      @uwuweeabo2725 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it brought me back at this point people are already figuring out how to counterplay the new class tho

    • @glooomful
      @glooomful หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@uwuweeabo2725 really? damn, how slothful

    • @uwuweeabo2725
      @uwuweeabo2725 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@glooomful ur my new bestie 🤝🏻 add me rn lmao

  • @brycerodriguez244
    @brycerodriguez244 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Needs a SERIOUS damage and cooldown nerf. Maybe get rid of the cooldowns overall. Unlimited spells with minimal cost is too insane

    • @sawritall4292
      @sawritall4292 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorcerer has kinda made the game obnoxious to play, anyone running lightning storm is just some douchebag without skills depending on a spell merge that kills everything instantly, i dont know what SDF was thinking, if he even tested this, but he better not say that this is intentional

  • @claymeistereu
    @claymeistereu หลายเดือนก่อน

    whats the graphics settings you use to make the caves look so much brighter?

  • @AverageDoggo
    @AverageDoggo หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're really emulating the Repoze "Nothing to live for teenager" voice

    • @AverageDoggo
      @AverageDoggo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also the "Bro bruh bro bruh bro bro bro bro bro bro"
      really cringe

  • @sangury
    @sangury หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great vid bruvh

  • @CaolanlikesPIE
    @CaolanlikesPIE หลายเดือนก่อน

    before this class I thought the devs just hated magic, turns out its just wizard they hate lol. Might actually have to try the game again with this. Question: Would Firepillar and Levitate (on an enemy) be busted? like holding them over a bbq?

  • @Smurf-0808
    @Smurf-0808 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the spellbook used for? You said you gotta break the habit of taking it out, but why even take one in the first place? Is there some spell that you like to use with extra power?

    • @sheruubi
      @sheruubi หลายเดือนก่อน

      It just gives extra stats. It comes in the squire gear so might as well.

  • @treeko39
    @treeko39 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What perks do u run now that apex got nerfed?

  • @Srloger
    @Srloger หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh my god no, Oh my Foxman😁 salute

  • @Mobay18
    @Mobay18 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This does not fit the game all. It's freaking unreal tournament now.

    • @phoenixfeathers132
      @phoenixfeathers132 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😢😢😢😢

    • @Manahex
      @Manahex หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Magic doesn't fit in a fantasy Dungeons & Dragons themed game? Huh?

    • @adrianoss.bougas3720
      @adrianoss.bougas3720 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Manahex it's not about the magic chief, it is about the gameplay design, no charges and no cooldown. cooldown doesnt matter when you can just alternate spell... it's infinite spam - were you playing dumb?

    • @phoenixfeathers132
      @phoenixfeathers132 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@adrianoss.bougas3720 Like a warlock with a healing potion?

    • @daeyzz4244
      @daeyzz4244 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@adrianoss.bougas3720hmmm sounds like another class that’s been in the game for over a year…..warlock

  • @e.k33pa37
    @e.k33pa37 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the spellbook give any stats when you're casting with your hands?

  • @Skorm.
    @Skorm. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The grip your describing is just a grip people use in FPS games since quake

  • @DutzuYT
    @DutzuYT หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sick gameplay brother! How do you get that perfect bunny hop tho?

    • @ray-ray_jackson2k5
      @ray-ray_jackson2k5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      bind jump to scroll wheel and just keep rolling it. Alternative is to just get perfect timing hitting space bar.

  • @richardpagel6959
    @richardpagel6959 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was running at a sorcerer yesterday with my ranger, was shooting at him decently and I think he was quite down on HP. He was running thru a door, I was running after him but the moment I arrived at the door he came out and one-shot me with whatever spell I cannot even tell because I was just dead instantly. Full HP to dead in less than a second and I did not even saw receiving damage, it really was just full HP to instant death... how in the world is this possible, nor even to mention, is that meant to be balanced. Just to mention, he was at 4 HP when I checked the death cam. 😆
    But hey, its a new class, they will hopefully balance it soon enough thou.

  • @enigmaticmistere8865
    @enigmaticmistere8865 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can't tell if honestly just spellbound by the awe inducing ceiling of the new toy (read: class), using mouse buttons 3-6 for other functions/keybinds, or unknowing/unpossessing of a wired gaming mouse and the knowledge of how/why they are a distinct class of user input peripherals.....but claw grip mouse wheel jumping does not sound intuitive, rational, or like the logical deduction destination i think i would ever have arrived at ...hell my legit logitech g series mouse has 9 buttons on the thumb tipping region of the mouse alone, and my "amazon's cheapest" disposable battery powered "i only had 10 bucks and payday was still a week away but my new gaming rig needs an input device" chinese junker of a mouse even has three buttons on the thumb rest region....which used to be my go to "push to talk" VOIP control buttons, but the need to dual cast and jump to save precious spacing and MS metrics while in combat at least makes me understand the gravity and sometimes necessary evil of poor outcomes resulting from such a choice being made on the fly (regardless of the end user's IRL equips....necessity is the definitive whore of a mother of all inventions (not just the normies/biological offspring, but all of the bastards and red headed adoptees/step children, as well))

  • @arTE_
    @arTE_ หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    i'm baffled why jump casting is still a thing especially after introducing sorc and perk for him that separates players with good pc and fps from worse

    • @CongaPenguin
      @CongaPenguin หลายเดือนก่อน

      From what I understand, b-hopping is more of an attribute to the unreal engine than anything ironmace has done from the development side. Baring building their own engine, I’m not sure how they could get away from it

    • @Valkryn1138
      @Valkryn1138 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you elaborate on that? What perk?

    • @mrzero7387
      @mrzero7387 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Valkryn1138the apex of sorcery perk, supposed to make you stand still while casting but double cast speed and damage but if you bhop it doesn't matter so it's just free 2x damage and cast speed

    • @brennanorr2
      @brennanorr2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not free chanel spells will cancel ​@@mrzero7387

    • @Valkryn1138
      @Valkryn1138 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrzero7387 Ooooh. Ok I see what you're saying.

  • @snowywhistle2114
    @snowywhistle2114 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure which combo it is, but I've been getting hit for half my hp with one spell. I have 50% mdr (25% + anti magic). squire kit is doing over 50 damage through my 50% damage reduction... 100 damage un geared on a fast moving projectile is insane.
    and of course the cool down is like 3 seconds. I don't normally like to use heater shield on warlock, but if this doesn't get changed I'm going to be forced to. I can't believe that 50% mdr isn't enough.

  • @thrustfrombehind9869
    @thrustfrombehind9869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd feel like every Ranged character is annoying and broken and its mostly just the fact that they are Ranged.
    You can always have a "Balanced" team, but a Balanced team will always lose against a full team of Ranged Classes.
    Whats so fun in a Dungeon Crawler if the game becomes a psuedo CoD game.
    Every Melee Character is literally at the mercy of every range character especially if they have an escape tool, the second you even get close, they usually will just run away and Kite you to death while you're a melee character, you'll NEVER catch up in squire Gear, but thats not if they kill or dealt Heavy damage to you first because of just being a ranged character.
    It literally becomes D Day.
    And with the New Sorcerer, them having a Dash spell AND a Push back spell is actually stupid.
    Whats even the point anymore for melee class except for tanking PVE enemies lmao.

  • @pardolagames8994
    @pardolagames8994 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you wanna fight panther druids literally just use Lightning Sphere
    and perhaps Stone Skin

  • @Mr.Amitay
    @Mr.Amitay หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    91# video i tell foxman to keep saying yo in every beginning of a video

  • @senbontensai
    @senbontensai หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes lighting storm gets canceled for no reason, anyway to avoid it?

    • @FoxmanSlays
      @FoxmanSlays  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a bug related to elevation of the terrain I guess, works most consistently on flat surfaces with no pillars

  • @E-jan_The_Man
    @E-jan_The_Man หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After this video i can with certainty say. Sorc is OP

  • @calex9398
    @calex9398 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yooo lets gooooooo

  • @VintageNarwhal
    @VintageNarwhal หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stuff needs tweaked but that’s fine. Class is good overall.

  • @SpringHeeLJaK89
    @SpringHeeLJaK89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lightning storm is crazy but super buggy, wont go off and puts both spells on cooldown.

  • @Headcatcher10
    @Headcatcher10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you should make a vid on a lightning storm until its nerfed

    • @travislubbeck316
      @travislubbeck316 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr it’s crazy with insta cast. My friend runs in as barbarian for Aggro and lets me team kill him to kill them all

  • @ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999
    @ANTIFASUPERSOLDIER999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya I completely changed my mouse grip
    Too it is really fucking awkward 🤣🤣 middle finger scroll
    Wheel other two m1m2

  • @Skye-xj3bx
    @Skye-xj3bx หลายเดือนก่อน

    they better nerf the shit out of this class lmao i doubt it even got playtested lmao

  • @カプロスクスク
    @カプロスクスク หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just give our Louge back, I will use it even its damage becomes 1 per stab. I just want to sneak and cloak

  • @keziah5647
    @keziah5647 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is apex of sorcery so insane? This w/ the b hopping skill alone will separate noob sorcs from good ones.

    • @angelo3981
      @angelo3981 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lets be real bhopping takes little mechanical skill, even bad players can bind jump to scroll wheel

    • @raulguimaraesreis6640
      @raulguimaraesreis6640 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angelo3981 haven't played yet, but it seems sorc casts spells with left and right click? if so it's a pain to bunny hop with middle finger with the 2 fingers on LMB and RMB.

    • @keziah5647
      @keziah5647 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angelo3981 agreed, but it's a bit silly to design a busted perk around someone's ability to bhop or not

  • @DrewTheRotund
    @DrewTheRotund หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ngl, I only keep 3 perks equipped.
    Apex of sorcery, Mana fold, and Time distortion all seem like pretty bad perks after first impressions.

    • @dmckel
      @dmckel หลายเดือนก่อน

      Time distortion is broken with a little resourcefulness on your gear

    • @xenird
      @xenird หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apex is insane...

  • @Alagachak
    @Alagachak หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well... there was not much competiotion between the new classes in DnD...

  • @WhosTelvoe
    @WhosTelvoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    W VIDEO MANE

  • @JustPlainRex
    @JustPlainRex หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got 1 tapped full Hp by that class i was fighter I’m pissed

  • @EvilFreak.
    @EvilFreak. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sorry bro i killed u as cutthroat rogue like a goddamn bastard at 7 am

    • @beetrice1219
      @beetrice1219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you like this

  • @AmJezzle
    @AmJezzle หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yaaaaaay another class to cater to the run away ranged meta. Probably wont play this wipe till it gets nerfed

    • @wispy4652
      @wispy4652 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same bro I want more melee characters not more kiting 😅

    • @hattrickswayze1
      @hattrickswayze1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hate to be that guy but if you cant beat em, you gotta join em. as someone who plays fighter i completely understand, but its worth trying

    • @AmJezzle
      @AmJezzle หลายเดือนก่อน

      @wispy4652 its so boring watching people run from you 24/7, everyone is terrified of heads up gameplay. I am playing less and less of the regular game and more arena just because its harder for people to kite, and with this class being added arena is gonna be full of them for like a month

    • @xenird
      @xenird หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AmJezzleNGL as a wizard main I was simply unable to do anything close range unless I'm the one being pushed and I magic missile as my only option.
      Sorcerer has a real melee weapon so I play way more aggressively going in for a melee fight after a short time, this is just way more fun and viable

    • @AmJezzle
      @AmJezzle หลายเดือนก่อน

      @xenird while you play to have fun, majority are meta cucks, who dont see a need for melee combat when they can simply run away and deal the same if not more damage you to set you up to be one shot, give them any sign that you arent at below 10%hp and they will continue to kite.

  • @OliverFluffy
    @OliverFluffy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro oneshots goblin wth

  • @kylekasper6342
    @kylekasper6342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's also the only new class

  • @zacharylansing
    @zacharylansing หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you people not have jobs?

  • @raidenjohnson6622
    @raidenjohnson6622 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jay griff dies at 6:43

    • @dyna1986
      @dyna1986 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, his sorc called TwistWithBothHands

  • @nymendor
    @nymendor หลายเดือนก่อน

    breh broh bree

  • @garrettbaum9088
    @garrettbaum9088 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you sound exactly like repoze hahaha

  • @blaked4649
    @blaked4649 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wish they would remove bhopping

  • @LostBoyAyres
    @LostBoyAyres หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude sounds like repose like a mofo

  • @elyesaoz7107
    @elyesaoz7107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might as well just add master chief as the next class. Wth happened to the game

  • @flekzgaming4185
    @flekzgaming4185 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "hard class" -> Lightning Storm, gg

    • @FoxmanSlays
      @FoxmanSlays  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lightning storm needs to go, however I was not using it in this video

  • @jaredh923
    @jaredh923 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:38 exact same thing happened to me. But without the 10 damage from windblast. 138 base damage is just too much for an instant cast spell. I build STR+VIG, i should not be getting 1 hit by any class.

  • @truthspeaker7878
    @truthspeaker7878 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ya this games cooked
    0 soon

  • @Axan436
    @Axan436 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why even bring in a spellbook?

  • @Animented
    @Animented หลายเดือนก่อน

    was

  • @josephrattray4227
    @josephrattray4227 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not hard just ez character