It’s tragic that some Christians don’t seem to understand that the whole theme of the Bible, which is Jesus and what he came to do for mankind. All prophecy and promises made to Abraham were fulfilled through the death and resurrection of Christ. It’s always been about God and his people, who are is people? Anyone who puts their faith in Christ Jesus and that’s it.
True but remember God has still a covenant with national state of Israel which will come into fulfillment after they recognized it through Jesus's return. In Matthew's gospel Jesus said the bread cannot be given to the dogs (non-Jews). Read in context. Yes they rejected Him but He will establish His eternal kingdom from Jerusalem as Israel as a nation. Read second half of the book Ezekiel.
Jews are the apple of God's eyes. It's on us Christians to support their right to defend their country from Islamic attacks. Those who curse Israel shall be cursed while those who bless Israel will be blessed.
@anton74624 where does the bible say the nation of Israel? Doesn't it state the descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob? Specifically, those who believe He is I AM? It's not a nation. It's the descendants. More specifically, those who worship Him in spirit and truth. Non believing and those worshipping pagan gods will be judged the same as non believing and pagan practicing gentiles.
i am a believer and follower of the Lord Jesus Christ. i do not owe my devotion to anyone but Him and His bride, the Church, the Body of Christ. I certainly do not have to “support” or defend anyone who rejects Him, His teachings, and defiles Christian’s. my salvation is not based on the condition that I bless or support a politically motivated regime and war. Nothing happening over there is being done to glorify the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. just because you call a land Israel doesn’t make it Israel.
Amen sis - this is the point I have been trying to make...I am a protestant Pastor in New Zealand and I cannot believe how many Christians cannot see the plain and definite truth in God's word. NO ONE who rejects our beautiful saviour will enter into Heaven - and there is no such thing as saved by nationality - we are saved on an individual basis by faith in Jesus. If that isn't enough, God's end time people are here described in Revelation 14:12 as those who 'Keep the commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus' - Killing babies for any reason breaks the 6th commandment and rejecting Jesus is the exclusion point for anyone. Paul longed for the Jewish family to be spiritual Israel - those who accept Jesus by faith and who accept the good news of the gospel. Telling Jewish people they are saved because their Israeli or jewish is the worst thing a true Christian can tell them and it is babylonian doctrine. God bless you for believing bible and gospel truth not this unbiblical nonsense.
This is more complicated than your answer. Jews do accept the Messiah. There is complete misunderstanding by Christians through the lack of understanding of Dispensational theology. A Jew struggles with the light weight knowledge that many Christians have and when they do convert they become Messanic Jews.
The thing is that most religions accept Jesus as a prophet, as a teacher, as a role model. The only one to be furiously hateful toward Jesus is Judaism. Jesus really really humbled them. "God could make sons of Abraham out of the stones." Is not something Netanyahu would want to hear. And as far as where Jesus is right now according to the Talmud, it's bad.
@@NorthernMigrationTravel Be careful with that statement- Christian Dispensationalism believes that Israel will have a functional role to the nations when Jesus rules the nations at His return to earth (see Isa. 2:2-4; Matt. 25:31).
When people ask the question “do you support Israel” what exactly do they mean? Support Israel in what - any political or cultural move they make? Or does it mean we recognize they are God’s covenant people? As His covenant people, we see often in the OT God calling Assyrian or Babylon to come and take Israel into exile when they had rejected them. Had we lived back then, would we have “supported Israel” and fought against God’s plan to reprove them? I recognize the Abrahamic covenant, and believe God still has plans to fulfill toward Israel. I do not think everything they do as a nation is without error. I hear internet pastors speaking in a way that implies “supporting Israel” means supporting anything and everything the Israeli government says and does….even God Himself did not support them when they trusted in their own strength. So…when you ask the question “should Christians support Israel” please be more specific. What do you mean?
@@MegUSN52I'm curious, do you support all Italian or Serbian people all over the world too, or is it just Jewish people specifically? If it's Jewish people specifically, please define what you believe "Jewish" means, and please explain what about those specific people that you support and why. Genuinely asking.
@American-Jello the children of Israel are God's possession, the apple of his eye... (Biblical)... back to "support". As a Christian, I pray for the Salvation of all people and in particular the Jew because as Scripture puts it... we are indebted to the Jew and God's Salvation through Jesus is for the Jew first and then for the non=Jew like me. I hope this helps.
@@nickmatthews604 Do you believe those l0iving in Israel today have any relation to the ancient tribe of Judah? Reading Rev. 2.9 and 3.9 appears to contradict that quite clearly.
I do not stand with a nation or group, I stand with the innocent children of God who have been forced out of their homes, starved, raped, tortured and/or murdered. no matter their religion or nationality.
Sorry...wrong theology. The children of God are only those who have come to Christ. No doubt God is pained to see the suffering of thousands of people in the Middle East, but they must leave their evil ways, repent and, come to God through Christ. He is the only way.
@@alexandrasevilla9690 When I say “children of God” I am not making a statement about them being “children of God” because they are saved, I say that term because they are all made in the image and likeness of God and and deserve to be treated with dignity just as everyone else, I’ll always stand up for those innocent people whether or not you think it’s the “correct” theological opinion or not.
@@alexandrasevilla9690 As my friend used to say, you’re right, but you’re dead right (dead being the operative word). What you say sounds extremely callous. God cares about all of humanity whom He created in His image. God is not waiting for us to repent and come to faith in Him before He will show any genuine care and concern for us? Remember, it was whilst we were yet sinners that Christ died for us. We should show genuine care and compassion for all humans (especially those in the womb) irrespective of their gender, ethnicity or political allegiance. This is how we demonstrate the love of God to the world and that Judeo-Christianity alone is the truth. That being said, you are right in rejecting universalism that says all roads lead to God and we should just be nice to one another since that is manifestly untrue (Jn.14:6; Acts .4:12) Simonline 🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
@@simonline1194 Not at all insensitive, it pains me to see the destruction in Gaza, but I understand well who is the cause of all that destruction and death; and let me tell you that it was not the state of Israel that caused it. Now, without a doubt, Christ died for us, even though we were sinners. But, to be saved, we all, we must all come to Him in repentance. Jews, Muslims, atheists, and those who say they are Christians and really are not. Recognizing that we have fallen from God's grace and repenting is the essence of the gospel. Tell me what's so insensitive about that? Finally, let me tell you that it is very comfortable to judge the decisions of the Israeli State when you do not live in that place. They have been bombed from the north by Hezbollah for a year. A year ago Hamas entered their territory and killed, burned, raped men, women, and children. What do you think the US government would do in a case like this?
@@alexandrasevilla9690yes, it completely is and was the occupying nationstate of Israel that is, and will continue to be, the cause of all this. Just say you don't understand history - regional or biblical both - and be done with it. Shilling for warmongers is disgusting.
@@William-l9k with the coming of Jesus on earth and because of that and His work at the Cross, the new Israel, the Israel of God, the new heavenly Jerusalem describe the true believers who really became spiritual.
The answer to every question of "Is blank a must for Christians?" is a resounding no, unless the blank is to believe the gospel. Our faith must only rest in the blood of Jesus -- his death, burial, and resurrection for our justification. There is nothing we can add to the gospel, and there is no additional requirement to be saved.
As a Jewish believer in Jesus sharing the gospel with the Jewish people in Israel, I thank you for this video. God still has a plan for our Jewish people (Romans 11) Great point regarding the recent re-establishment of the Jewish state and its effects on the revelation of biblical prophecy. ❤
You are 100% wrong, and are completely blind, lost, deceived, unsaved, and outside of the kingdom of God as are all those who are so absolutely ignorant that they support Godless Israel. Repent!
I believe Israel is still God's people. Yes, until Jews accept Jesus as Messiah, they do not have eternal life. Yet, God still offers some protection when people have tried to wipe Jews out. God promised to save a remnant of Israel. My thought is that Israel will accept Jesus. They will then be complete. Jesus promised when Israel said "Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord" He would come for His Nation.
@@carriestout6422 ,...What you believe is not only wrong, but also meaningless. The only thing that matters is what God believes (what the truth is). The Godless nation of Israel is cut off and has been divorced by God and they have nothing whatsoever to do with God, Jesus, the truth, the gospel, nor the Christianity of the Bible, nor will they ever. They are all accursed of God. The remnant of Israel are the very, very, very few actual Christian that exist. These few actual Christians have nothing to do with Godless Israel, nor do they have anything to do with the church/Christianity that is all 100% apostate just as the jews are. As this scripture below tells you, the jews/Israel are completely desolate and will never ever turn to God. They will only see Jesus when he comes on judgement day and the Godless jews and the rest of the Godless world will all acknowledge that Jesus was/is the Messiah. Luke Ch. 13, 35, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.?
Hopefully true Christians understand that God is no respecter of persons, we’re all equal in his sight and we should be praying for all nations to be blessed, focusing always on Israel tells me people are not reading or understanding their Bibles.
Sorry israel is the apple of God's eye Not Cuba not America not Argentina Israel is . HE that's keeps Israel does not sleep nor slumber all through the Bible God has fought for Israel not any other nation please pray that you may understand what you are reading.
@@ramon4348 in God there’s neither Jew nor gentile, we’re all equal, they served a purpose and that’s it, they are done, so much that Jesus promised the destruction of their precious city, I invite you to think critically, would God have in high esteem a nation that killed Jesus and not only that but continue to reject him even to this day
@@ramon4348 *NO actual or claimed bloodline descent from Abraham was EVER required to join the HOLY nation back then in Sinai, or throughout Ancient Israel's history, OR with the True Israel of God now (Gal **6:16**). The church has not replaced Israel because ISRAEL WAS ALWAYS A CHURCH (Acts 7:37-38) and we are grafted into that Israel Rom **11:11**. No DNA was or is EVER required for membership---only true FAITH! So with Israel having ALWAYS been a church why would people today support ANY group claiming to be Israel by DNA?*
Very true dear Wendy - Its about time people started correctly reading their bibles and not falling for the trap that christian zionism is that distorts their understanding. I pray for peace and salvation for Israeli people the same way I do for all people. I will not support a nation that wholly rejects Christ and commits genocide.
Romans 2:28-29 King James Version 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
@@Truth_sets_me_free Paul is speaking to Jews comparing law keeping apart from genuine faith using circumcision as the example. If you’re a gentile, I hope you don’t think you’ve become a Jew inwardly because you have faith in Jesus. In Christ, Jew and gentile, male and female are one in him but doesn’t negate the fact that ethnicity and gender still exists.
@@sprsmoke 1 The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amoz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. A Rebellious Nation 2 Hear me, you heavens! Listen, earth! For the Lord has spoken: “I reared children and brought them up, but they have rebelled against me. 3 The ox knows its master, the donkey its owner’s manger, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.”
God is merciful. Through us he gives mercy. The people that are staving and dying need mercy. Is sacrificing a people for self interest merciful? If we watch let a people starve and die and do nothing, does that make us apart of it? When we die, will God ask us if we promoted death and destruction or peace and mercy? God is love.
@patroney2438 you are not alone. We have to do our best to speak to people who don't believe in mercy. Mercy is given, not earned. God is merciful. God is love
Short answer:No. Christian’s are under no obligation to be zionists nor to support the modern state of Israel. They are under an obligation to stand up for the rights of the oppressed and care for the orphan and widow.
@thyikmnnnn Christian’s are obligated to support Israel. Romans 9:4 Isaiah 49:6-> John 4:22 Matthew 19:28 Daniel 2:44 Deuteronomy 7:6 2 Samuel 7:24 Deuteronomy 32:9-10
@@johnmann8659 These passages are not talking about the modern state of Israel. What would Israel have to do for you to not longer support them? How many more must die?
@johnmann8659 Another lazy on-response. Does 'supporting the godless secular nation state of Israel' mean that I am somehow obligated to support financially the Likud party and it's killing of innocent women and children? Pls keep in mind...the Lord is not a member of the Likud party! Also, since you are so fond of Scripture references, read Romans 2:28-29.
The Abrahamic covenant is about blessing all nations through his Seed, none other than Jesus (read Galatians). The Covenant is New (read Hebrews) and the land is the whole earth (read the Great Commission). Salvation is by Grace, not Race.
Do know the actual meaning of salvation in the Bible?? Because in the Bible salvation is yahwehshi delivering his people out of the hands of their enemies as it written!!
@@ManuGeorge777 The Abrahamic covenant is only for the Jewish people not the church. The end time harvest ( great commission ) is for everyone who is born again. What you are believing is called replacement theology.
@@William-l9k *According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity. God repeated this over and over.* *EZEK 47: 21 “You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves AND for the foreigners residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as NATIVE-BORN ISRAELITES; along WITH YOU they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23 In whatever tribe a foreigner resides, there you are to give them their inheritance,” declares the Sovereign Lord.* *SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH* Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3. Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5. Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1. Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20. Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22 Psalm 87:4-5. Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17 Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21 Isaiah 56:3
@@William-l9k YOU who are replacing the faith-based 'Israel of God' (Galations 6) with a race-based concept of Israel. Even in Gen 17, God made the circumcision covenant with the MIXED-MULTITUDE household of Abraham, his blood-sons and foreign-born slaves. Later, God covenanted with the MIXED MULTITUDE that came out of Egypt, and proved their FAITH in Him, and thus become Israel (Exodus 19:5). God then repeatedly invited foreigners to become full Israelites with full inheritance and lands rights--based on their Abrahamic FAITH ALONE! Not Abrahamic DNA. Choseness by God ALWAYS depended on grace not race. Faith not DNA! The only person's DNA that matters is the true, pure Lamb Himself, Jesus.
The evil was started by the demonic terrorist group called Hamas. If they return the hostages the war will be over. God will bless those who bless Israel. Jesus is the commander of heavens armies. As Christians we obey our King.!! 🙏🔥🕊️🇮🇱
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
God still has plans for Israel, maybe not all Jews are going to be saved but God will redeem Israel when Jesus returns to Jerusalem to rule in the millennial kingdom. God loves Israel and will fulfil His covenants
@amandagotts4823 you are talking as if Israel was a state when Paul says this in Romans. He was talking about a blood line. There has always been a remnant (he was one of them) that will be saved. Will many be saved when the Military messiah rules from Jerusalem? Hopefully, many will see on that day that the Jesus the Messiah they rejected was the true Messiah, not the one they now are looking to build a temple for.
@@amandagotts4823 God will not treat one race better than another. For is now a racist. Jews still have an opportunity to turn to Christ if they choose. Either you’re in Christ or not- no other option.
@@amandagotts4823 amen! He is faithful even if every man is a liar. God will redeem Israel and like Paul says “when the age of the Gentiles has come to an end, all Israel will be saved” Romans 10-12
@@tatyanamorozova8467 He will show favor on whom He will show favor… (Exodus 33:19; Romans 9:18) and concerning Israel He said “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. I will be your God and you will be My people.” The OT is not allegory, it’s legitimate proclamation of His eternal and unconditional promises of His faithfulness to Israel even if she behaves like Hosea’s wife, He loves the Jewish people as the apple of His eye. He says so. Which actually is good news to everyone because if He loves even a people hated and despised, sinful and faithless, how great is His love for you who love Him also? This is not a favor to envy but as example of His enduring love so that us in the church can take heart that He will always forgive us and He will always love us because He still loves Israel. 🇮🇱
I am a Christian and do believe in Jesus Christ who brought salvation for us all. There is no more jew nor Gentile. We are all children of God. I dont have to submit to the evil earthly state that's massively killing innocent people to be made right with God
Romans 11. God has not rejected His people. They have not stumbled beyond recovery. We should pray for the Jews salvation and support the Jewish state because they are our allies and have put up with tremendous attacks including Oct. 7. Are they perfect? No. Are the majority of Jewish people out of the will of God? Yes. But God has not given up on them. There has always been a remnant. But one day the Jews will come to acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah.
Paul in Romans 11 says, "God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all." The disobedient Jew is no different than a disobedient Gentile. Like the gentile, ver. 23, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be saved. Paul was referring to his contemporary Jews, meaning himself, the disciples, and all those who began the first church. That truth continues today. There is only one people of God, they are found in Christ.
@@velocirayYet Paul makes a distinction between the Jew and the Gentile all throughout Romans, especially chapter 11. It clearly states God is using us now to bring them back to Him.
@@J6warriorwe have always had a great relationship with Israel. They are a beacon of freedom in that region of the world. I got to visit a few years ago. If you haven't had that opportunity I'd really encourage you to go and see the connection we have with them.
@@jambox9919 Ok thanks for the update on your vacation but I'm talkin geopolitics. How are they our allies? What do WE get out of this relationship? I know they get billions from us.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
Has anyone read Romans 9-11? Paul says in Romans 9: 1-5 that all those covenants and promises are still in the present tense. And he says in Romans 11 that the gifts and callings can't be revoked. So either Paul is lying and God revoked everything or else we need a basic class in hermeneutics. Christian's need to stop with their insecurities about Israel. Jesus is Israel's Messiab and he is the Messiah for the whole world. No, you don't have to agree with everything their government does. Jesus will return to Israel, not the U. S or anywhere else.
@ericchabot6512 the military state of Israel rejected the true Messiah. They are and will try to take the land promised to Abraham (who was not a jew) by force. They are waiting for a military Messiah who will set himself up in the temple they will build for him and claim he is God. Why would any Christian support the great delusion that brings for the man of sin? Will there and has there always been a remnant of the OT Israel saved? Yes but if Christians actually cared about what Paul said then they would be evangelising to the Jews not supporting the military madness we see infolding
@@bjrgstre-mauger5398 Israel rejected the Messiah because God caused them to and IFFF you read Romans 11 it says that clearly... Also, God told Israel to wipe the same people from the land thousands of years ago. You have a problem with God now? You can't determine how God does things. You are nothing but a human, dust, nothing more without the Lord. Do you think you can question God? If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored. There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example, In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6 Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger.... Joel 3:2 speaks a prophecy about God judging the nations for dividing the land. Sadly most Christians sit in churches that don't teach Bible prophecy.
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@@marcfischer8644 _Or maybe Paul wasn't Jesus, and he wasn't right 100% of the time. Just a thought!_ Or that you are calling God a liar by trying to claim he wasn't right 100% of the time as all scripture is God breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Peter 3:15-16). Just a thought, for you. You are looking unstable per scripture. *15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation- **_as also our beloved brother Paul,_** according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, **_which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures._*_ -- 2 Peter 3:15-16_
I think it’s possible to love Israel and Palestine. I don’t think anyone is of the people of God on the basis of ethnicity, but I do believe that on the basis of being a person we, people of all ethnicities and nations, are made to God’s imagine.
Let’s just PRAY and seek the heart of the Lord !! Instead of being consumed by the relentless stream of news, let us turn our attention to God’s news-the Word.
Thank you so much. Those that adhere to "replacement theology" are, in essence, calling God a liar. They are saying that God will not fulfill His promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Roman's chapter 11 makes clear He is not done with His people. It also makes clear to believers about how we are to think of them.
Jesus's first message was love. We are all misinformed about the situation in Israel. Zionists are a terrible group and not Christian. That multiple sites in Palestine, particularly in Jerusalem, have religious significance to Christians, Muslims and Jews is not what is being contested, nor is the idea that a dedication to a political cause or peace and justice cannot stem from one’s personal religious beliefs. Rather, what is being contested is that Palestinians continue to resist Zionism for purely religious reasons or that the roots of the colonization of Palestine are religious.
A lot of people criticize what they call replacement theology. I wonder if they even know what it is? Premillennialists, particularly dispensationalists, don’t like any criticism of modern day Israel or Judaism. But the idea that they are God’s chosen people is not found in the New Testament. They were God’s chosen people who had the oracles of God and brought the Messiah into the world. Any Jew in Jesus’ day or today, who rejects Jesus as the Messiah, is blinded and is not part of God’s chosen people unless and until they renounce their own form of salvation and turn to Christ alone. It is believers in Jesus who are part of God’s kingdom and who are truly God’s chosen people.
Abraham was not a jew....think about that. If it was his natural offspring that would inherit the land, then it would Ishmael and Jacob!! It was through his SEED which is Jesus that all nations will be blessed. That SEED is Christ!! All in Christ are Israel. "Out of Egypt I called my Son". Those in Christ will inherit the Land promised to Abraham no matter what nationality. That is what the 1000 year reign is for. That is why we are seated in Christ for when He return we will rule with Him !!
Zechariah 2:8 For thus says the Lord of hosts, "After glory He has sent me against the nations which plunder you, for he who touches you, touches the apple of His eye. Zechariah 13:8 makes reference to 1/3 coming through the fire, refined and tested. Romans 11 is clear about the current condition of the Jews (partial hardening), until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in. Indeed the whole chapter speaks about how the Lord feels about the Jews and Gentiles. Then also the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation. If you study Scripture prayerfully, honestly, and diligently, you will see that God is not done with Israel.
@@MrSpolaRyou come across trying to be smarty pants, but you reveal how ignorant you are. If you think all the prophetic promises to Israel have been fulfilled, I don’t know what to tell you. You’re woefully ignorant of the Bible if you think that. Or delusional or you simply don’t believe it the Bible. When the church age, dispensation of grace (neither Jew of gentile) comes to a close, God will go back to dealing with Israel as a covenant nation and will fulfill his promises to them. It’s literally the most prophesied events in the Bible.
The book of Joshua says that the promises of the land were fulfilled at that time. Joshua 21:43-45: And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.
I don't recall Jesus saying anything about blindly supporting an earthly nation-state. I'm pretty sure he said that all the law and all the prophets boil down to loving God and thy neighbor as thyself. Thy neighbor does not mean thy fellow member of the same nation state and tribe. It means fellow human being. And I'm pretty sure we are told somewhere in the New Testament that "God is no respecter of persons." And even in the Old Testament, he doesn't say love Israel above other nations. On the contrary, He tells Israel, "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
I will never understand why people keep saying things like "Should true Christians stand with Israel". Israel is a country, like any other. The nation of Israel has nothing to do with being a "true" Christian. People conflate the terms jew, Hebrew, Israelite and Israeli, but they all mean VERY different things and that's important. Too many people believe since Jesus was a Hebrew, and because God initially called the Israelites his chosen people, that Israel will always be. That is FALSE. It also has nothing whatsoever to do with the nation of Israel. Most Israelis (70%) aren't even religious, let alone follow Christ. Pray for the salvation of all, but if you're a Christian, your only true allegiance is to GOD.
1. Biblical prophecy regarding the regathering of Israel to the land is there for all to see. Jonathan Cahn and others can show you the prophetic Scriptures that even point to 1948. Yes the year of the regathering is actually in the Bible if you know how to calculate it. 2. Romans 11 CLEARLY deals with this matter and I don't know WHY Christians don't read it. Read the passage in an ACCURATE and easy to understand version of the Bible such as the NLT. 3. Paul said "All Israel will be saved" and that Israel is loved because of the patriarchs. We don't understand COVENANT. When Paul said God's gifts and calls are without repentance he was speaking about the call and covenant that God made with Israel. I do suggest that you all STUDY and if God has not opened your mind for understanding you only store up judgement for yourself when you spread LIES about Israel. It is best ot listen to those who know more than you do. Listen to Jonathan Cahn
Interesting. You should interview Amir Tsafati. During one of his teachings, he reminded everyone that the Church was graphed into the Olive Tree, spiritual Israel, not into the Fig Tree, the nation of Israel. God still has promises he must keep to His people, Israel, and promises He must keep to His Church. God is faithful and is not a liar. I struggle with what God meant by "those who bless Israel will be blessed..." Where is the line drawn between sacrificing financially for our nation vs Israel. Pastor Hibbs once said those who don't support a HUGE financial package for Israel without money to cover our border are of Satan. We're not allowed to ask questions.
Maybe we should consult scripture when speaking of God fulfilling promises to Israel. Here's what the Word says: Joshua 21:45 "Not one of all the LORD's good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled."
Why always antisemitism has to come up on this matter. Im sure the Christians that thing that is not biblical to support a nation that is rejecting the Messiah never think on that! Who is the bride? Who is the body of Christ?... Who formed the first Church of Christ? "The Jews apostles." We, Jews or Gentiles, NEED to be the Church of Christ! What is needed is to pray for the salvation of the Jewish around the world and for the rest of the lost souls!
Jesus's message was centered on the Kingdom of Heaven, which he taught was present and near. Jesus's teachings included: The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven was present and near, and that it should be the primary goal of Christians. The characteristics of the Kingdom of Heaven: Jesus described the people who would inhabit the Kingdom of Heaven as the meek, merciful, peacemakers, and pure in heart. The Golden Rule: Jesus taught to treat others as you would want to be treated. Forgiveness: Jesus taught to forgive others freely. Prayer: Jesus taught to pray to God often. Mercy: Jesus taught to be merciful, as God is merciful. Peace: Jesus taught that those who
Not Peace, but a Sword 34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
@kennybryson6542 By your use of this message I know you are not a follower of jesus. This explains the devision he brings by the message of the kingdom between the believers and the none believers not a call for war or violence against your enemies. In the Bible, Jesus says, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" in Matthew 5:43-44.
Let me clarify this: in Christianity, when someone says they've "taken Christ into their heart," it often seems to be just words, while they may still support actions like the genocide of Palestinians, centuries of enslavement, the atomic bombings that killed millions, and countless other crimes against humanity. All of this stems from an interpretation of scripture that’s rarely questioned for authenticity. People have been given the ability to think critically, yet some fail to use it. Ultimately, judgment will come based on actions, not verbal commitments that lack follow-through. May God have mercy on their souls.
The modern-day secular state of Israel is not the same as the Israel of the Bible, which was a theocracy. Today 49% of Israelis claim to be non-religious; and Tel-Aviv is considered the "gay capital of the world," with 1 out of every 4 people identifying as homosexual. God's biblical covenants with Abraham and Moses have been fulfilled in Christ and the Church. Now all believers in Messiah-whether Jew or Gentile-are one Body, and partakers of God's everlasting covenant; and will inherit the earth on the Last Day. P.S. I support Israel for non-theological reasons: it's a democracy with Western values in the Middle East, as well as a strong military ally for the United States. Also as Christians, we should pray for our Jewish brethren for their salvation.
Zechariah talks about the day when the people of David, the Jews, “Look on him whom they have pieced and mourned for him as for an only son” and then this man comes and judges the nations for how they treated Israel. The current nation is the prophecy of restoration revealed in our time in anticipation of Christ’s return. It is a Theological purpose that this impossible nation exists and continues to exist, not because Israel is faithful, but because God is. Martin Luther said the only thing that would change his mind on God rejecting and Damning the Jews was for the Jewish people to have a Nation in the Land God promised to them again. Here it is, as Paul says “what if their partial turning has brought salvation to the Gentiles? …what would their acceptance be but life from the dead?… When the age of the Gentiles has come to an end, then all Israel will be Saved.” Romans 10-12
Israel is not the same state as the Kingdom of Judah and is not meant to be. It is the successor state of Mandate Palestine and the Ottoman Empire. The Jewish people however are matrilineally continuous with the Israelites of antiquity.
They've forgotten God's commandments. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Love one another. All will stand before the just judge in the end. God has no favourites. God created all people.
I distinguish between the Children of Israel (Jacob) and the country. However, the existence of both doesn't conflict with my understanding of theology... we (christians) are indebted to the Jew... and for the Jew first... etc. In these times I pray for their Salvation (and for all people created in God's image in the world and particularly in the Middle East)...so that as many can be saved by belief in their Yeshua before the Day of the Lord and the Great Tribulation (which is nearer) that this will bring.
The Abrahamic covenant was about faith in the coming Messiah through the Herbrews. However, God said that the covenant of the land would be broken if they didn’t remain faithful. We are grafted in by faith in Christ, so only those who believe in Messiah/Christ are still in covenant and will inherit the land after Christ returns.
Read the account of God's covenant with Abraham where God promised the land of Canaan as an eternal possession. Notice that the Bible tells us that Abraham found himself in deep darkness and he was essentially unable to participate in the covenant. This tells us that it was a one sided covenant where God didn't need Abraham to participate because He already knew Israel couldn't keep up their end, yet He was going to keep His part of the covenant. If you think the covenant about the land was ended by Israel's disobedience you better think again because of what the father of John the Baptist said , in the NT when he finally got his speech back in Luke ch 1 vs 72-73 which says... " ...to show mercy to our fathers and to REMEMBER HIS HOLY COVENANT , THE OATH he swore to our father ABRAHAM" So right there the Bible tells us that ,no, the covenant didn't expire because of Israel's disobedience. The problem is that people don't READ their Bible enough, which is something we ALL need to do.
@@KS-ie6xo please consider this, the mosaic covenant God made with Israel was only entered in to by gentiles if they became proselyte Jews. They we’re required to follow the ordinances/laws as Jews to be God’s people. Is this how we become God’s people today after the cross? Not according to the gospel by which we’re saved today, 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4. As the body of Christ, our inheritance is Christ, already seated with him in heavenly places and that our conversation is in heaven.
The promise of Abraham was given exclusively to Christ. Galatians points that out the promise was made to the singular seed, Christ. He who does not have the son, does not have the father. Jesus cursed the fig tree, "May you NEVER bear fruit again." John the Baptist, "God can raise up Children of Abraham from these stones." Peter in Acts 3 mentioned Moses told them, "Anyone who rejects the prophet (Christ) will be cut off from the community (Israel)." Peter said to the church, "You are a royal priesthood, a holy nation. . ." No mention of the physical Nation needing to be regathered, no mention of Jerusalem needing to be its capitol, no mention of a physical temple needing to be made. All of this Christan cheering for Israeli nationalism is almost unheard of till the fist world war. Neither Jesus nor the apostles said anything about it
Wrong, Matthew 24, the whole thing, Zechariah 10-14, Daniel 9. Zechariah goes on at some length about Jerusalem being a stone that nations will try to lift and injure themselves doing so. Very wrong. I know you can't back down, but you are badly mistaken, just saying.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
If the Jews ‘are not relevant’ why does Jesus return to The Mount of Olives, rule from Jerusalem and prepare the New Jerusalem after the Judgement? Revelation also states that ‘all Israel will be saved’. It is the height of conceit to believe that Jesus rose from the dead as a ‘Christian’. The Bible describes Israel as ‘The Apple of His Eye’. Does God change according to The Bible? Of course not!
The New Testament is a new covenant. Evidence shows clearly that those living in Palestine claiming to be Jews have no relation at all to the ancient tribes of Israel.
Israel has always been the seed of Promise from Abraham who was not a Jew. Jesus is the true Israel "Out of Egypt I called my Son". All who are in Him are Israel, jew, greek, male or female! Jesus is coming to rule in Jerusalem over the nations but just as there is an Antichrist so is there a a "Anti Israel", both counterfeits. The Antichrist will rule and reign from Jerusalem too before Jesus arrives!! Pretending to be the Messiah and the counterfeit Israel will recieve him in the temple. Yet, as Paul says there is a remnant and is in every generation who choose the real Messiah, the True Israel
You should actually read the Tanakh and pay attention. Israelites constantly disobeyed God. There were wicked kings that God didn't approve of. It got so bad that God withdrew His protection and so the Babylonians sent the Jews into exile. God allowed the Greeks, and then the Romans, to conquer the Holy Land. When God sent His Son, they rejected Him. They didn't recognise their Messiah. So they started the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans and failed. They failed to realise that Yeshua was (and still is) the New Temple and that blood sacrifices were no longer required.
You should actually read the Tanakh and pay attention. Israelites constantly disobeyed God. There were wicked kings that God didn't approve of. It got so bad that God withdrew His protection and so the Babylonians sent the Jews into exile.
God allowed the Greeks, and then the Romans, to conquer the Holy Land. When God sent His Son, they rejected Him. They didn't recognise their Messiah. So they started the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans and failed. They failed to realise that Yeshua was (and still is) the New Temple and that blood sacrifices were no longer required.
Something EVERYONE seems to be overlooking is that the question as to whether to support Israel or not has NOTHING to do with what your view is regarding the Church's relationship to Israel. Why? Because even in the Old Testament when they were unarguably the people of God, this still didn't mean they were to be supported every time regardless of what they did or what happened to them. Case in point: in the Old Testament, half of the time they were under attack or suffering catastrophe from their enemies God was on the side of those hammering them - because of their sins and disobedience as a nation. And herein lies the total joke about the Christians that support Israel regardless of nuance or wisdom. You see, Israel is an apostate nation EVEN IF you take Christianity out of the picture. They are a rebellious nation even according to their own standards and laws according to God's word. So even if they were the chosen people of God and even if God didn't replace Israel with the church, they still have a problem because collectively they are apostasy. And in the Old Testament, when they were celebrating LGBTQ, idol worship, etc. they got God's fury. Even if Israel was held to a totally different standard than the Church or the rest of the world, they are still in trouble because if we time traveled today's Israel back in time to match its practices up with what was required of them in the Old Testament, they are in total rebellion.
*According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity.* *SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH* Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3. Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5. Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1. Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20. Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22 Psalm 87:4-5. Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17 Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21 Isaiah 56:3
The God of Israel and His Messiah will always be faithful to His covenants. As for me and my house, we will stand with Israel. Come Lord Jesus and establish your kingdom.
@andrebecerra7019 Israel of the Bible is not a state. God is faithful to those who have faith because without faith, we are unable to please him. Abraham, who was not a jew is the Father of Faith. He was promised a seed that would bless the nations that would make Abram a Father of all nations. That SEED is Yeshua the Messiah. He came and fulfilled that prophesy. He is the true Israel "Out of Egypt I called my Son". In Him all promises and the Old Covenant is fulfilled. In Him Jew, Gentile, male and female are Sons of the Most High and are Israel. Jesus will rule from Jerusalem during His reign on earth and the land of israel will be the exact size that was promised to Abraham. Yet, we know a military messiah will try and counterfeit this by taking most of this land by force, the state of Israel that rejected Christ are waiting for him to sit in the temple of God as their messiah. We as believers need to stay away from the great delusion that comes with the man of lawlessness (2 thess. 2). We need to evangelise and pray for Jews to come to know their true Messiah before they fall for the false that is coming. Jesus said "I come in my Father's name, yet you do not recieve me: if another comes in his name, him ye will recieve. We must not have anything to do with the darkness to come but shine His light even brighter as we see prophesy unfolding
I agree. God’s word is very clear, and as someone who reads and believes in the whole council of God, I stand with Israel and their right to have a sovereign state and to defend her people.
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@@bjrgstre-mauger5398 _@andrebecerra7019 Israel of the Bible is not a state._ Yes it is. God defined the boundries of the nation of Israel, a portion of land dedicated solely for the Jewish nation. Why did God portion out a piece of land with borders if it's not a state? And about your Abraham not being a Jew, that's ridiculous too. He is the father of the Jews as being a Jewish person is defined by being a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, proving your claim is false, insinuating there is no relation between Abraham and the Jewish people. Where are you getting this drivel?
The O.T. Israel is not the current state of Israel. Israel was a person, a land, a people, but it is not the current state. The Promised Land will not be whole again until Jesus returns. We see in the book of Daniel that the little horn will try and conquer and bring that land under his control but will not succeed. A Jew refers to those from the tribe Judah. The tribes did not yet exist when Abraham lived. He technically was a Caananite because he lived in Canaan. Abraham was chosen to be the Father of Faith not because of a blood line but because his faith made him righteous. It is the SEED of Abraham that all nations will be blessed. That SEED is Jesus, and anyone who believes in Him has Abraham as a "father." If it was about Abraham's natural descendents, then both Isaac and Ishmael would be counted as his offspring. Jesus is the true Israel. "Out of Egypt, I called my Son." If position and blood line is counted for righteousness, then Jesus would not have said to the Pharisees who claimed Abraham as their father that their Father was the devil. Nor would Jesus have Rahab in His bloodline. The Bible is clear that we that believe in the Promised Messiah belong to a Heavenly Jerusalem, we are the sons of Sarah while those that are under the Old Covenant are Sons of Hagar (Galatians 4: 21-31) The Book of Romans explains that the natural branches have been cut off, and we as wild olive branches have been grafted in. No where in the Bible does it prophesy or mention the state of Israel being formed in our time by a people that rejected their Messiah except in Daniel. The little Horn will be the military Messiah that those that rejected Christ are waiting for. Only he and his regime will try to conquer and bring together the land of Israel. The verse "a nation will be born in a day" is the Ecclesia, not the current state of Israel. Romans 10:19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding." Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
As for me and my house, we stand firmly against lying, stealing, torturing, killing, and all the other evils that Israel has been committing for the past 76+ years and which God clearly forbids. We are praying for justice for the afflicted and the oppressed, and to be clear, the Israelis are not among the afflicted and oppressed. They are the thugs and oppressors who are showing the world the depths of depravity of which human beings are capable of reaching.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
@@jambox9919 How many times did God punish israel for their disobedience? If what they are doing now is not wrong in God's eyes then I don't know what would be. And Christians are cheering it on, despicable.
Who are the true Jews? Certainty those who deny Christ Matt 10: 33 “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven. . Rev 2:9 “I know your tribulation and poverty, but you are rich.* I know the slander of those who claim to be Jews and are not, but rather are members of the assembly of Satan.
I just posted this but I agree with you and I'll post it again: An Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics survey published in 2021 found that among Israeli Jews over the age of 20, about 45 percent identified as secular or not religious, while 33% said they practiced “traditional” religious worship. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, known as Haredim in Hebrew, made up 10%.
@@l.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.lMOST are secular atheists. Those "traditional" follow ORAL tradition (Talmudism or Kabbalah, essentially Babylonian pharisees), NOT biblical traditional beliefs that the Judahite Hebrew had of Jesus' time. The J of today and the J of yesteryear have largely NOTHING in common.
As a Christian I am called to pray for Israel and the Jews. However Jesus through His Spirit leads me, that is how I am to support His first covenant people. He has a plan. We are grafted in. Romans11
Lebanon is 20 times more Christian than Israel. Jesus commands us to feed clothe and protect his followers, not those who reject him. "Whatever you did for the least of these, you did unto me." Is about his followers of ANY race or people.
I agree with Dr. Myers from theological perspective, but I don't think his response is answering the question. When I'm asked "As a Christian, do I need to support Israel" they aren't asking about covenants and eschatology. They're asking if they have to support the modern state of Israel, their claim to the land and the way they operate as a country. Theology around God's covenant with Israel, at least from my perspective, doesn't help us answer those questions.
I think when you study prophetic books like Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah, it becomes clear that the state of Israel, the regathered people, is very much in God's plan and purpose.
Shalom and blessings, Alisa and Jeff. Thank you for the upload, Alisa. The Bible is solid on this topic. The reason so many 'christians' are asking this question is because the church is Biblically illiterate. Every blessing.
Zionism is a political movement and not a religious one. Supporting Zionism is not the same as supporting God's chosen people. This also depends on how you define Israel. Is it simply a geographical location? Or does the Israel of God refer to all those who are united in Christ under the New Covenant...Gentile and Jew alike?
In the Bible, God calls the city of Jerusalem ZION, He also calls the land of Israel ZION, and He even calls the people of Israel ZION. This should remind us that the land, the people and the city of Jerusalem are indivisible...and that God is the originator of ZIONISM... God is the original ZIONIST. Anyone who goes against ZIONISM is going against the Bible and God.
Terrible biblical understanding displayed here. Galatians 3 - There is no longer Jew or Greek. The twisting of scripture here is shocking. The covenant is made with all who choose Jesus no different to how Noah and Abraham lived - by faith and grace we are saved when we choose the Lord. The covenant with Abraham was with Abraham. God always has promises for His people - conditional on obedience, faith and love to Him and His Son. Anyone who rejects Jesus reject the one who sent Him - collectively the Jewish religion rejects Christ. Our Jewish family has access to salvation in exactly the same way any gentile does. But national Israel is not the Israel spoken in love by Brother Paul…it is spiritual Israel - the Israel Paul longed for his people to be grafted back into - the vine which is Jesus. In our day - No one who says they are of God would slaughter 10s of thousands of babies for any reason. For the Lord said ‘Thou shalt not kill’. Let us pray for peace and that Jewish people, like all people accept Jesus before He soon appears 🙏
I think you misinterpreted Galatians 3. It's Paul merely explaining that salvation comes to all but God's covenant to the Jewish people is not affected by that 2 Samuel 7:24. God does not change his mind. God's words are eternal. The Israel of today are descendants of Jacob. They are the first born, the apple of God's eye Deuteronomy 32:10 and Zechariah 2:8. So how can God say you shall not kill and yet commanded Israel to kill (in War) when going to the promised land? Israel is not purposely killing civilians in this modern war and if you cared about such civilians you would want them free of radical Islam, a religion that still kills for apostasy. So if you want them to hear about Christ you would support Israel. Even more if you love God you would love the apple of his eye. He said so himself.
@@rosanejoseph Thank you dear Rosane - but no, I am very clear about what scripture says and what God means when He says through His word people are saved by grace through faith - there is no such favouritism or salvation by race or national identity - all of humanity have equal access to salvation through faith in Jesus. Jesus is clear when says 'Thou shalt not kill'. There are so many scriptures that tell us that whosoever rejects Christ rejects Him / God who sent Jesus and as a collective religious culture they have done just that. When Jesus said in Matthew 23:38 'Your house is left unto you desolate' relates also to when in Matthew 27:41 the veil was rent top to bottom signalling the end of the Jewish Mosaic system and need for their purpose - the Gospel would soon be carried to the Gentile world. Israel the people of old, were always promised things by God that were conditional on their obedience and loyalty. By their killing of Jesus and the fulfilling of Jesus' mission it was the end of their national position as being God's people - Now God's people would live by faith and be justified by their faith and relationship directly with Jesus - each human one on one with God. Ezekiel 37 has been so distorted by Zionists and Zionist Christians they have lost sight of it's true meaning and how that chapter relates to Revelation 21 & 22. Unless we all, whether Jew or Gentile accept Jesus and keep His commandments by faith and love - we will receive the mark of the Beast. You also have an incorrect understanding of why God permitted the Hebrew people to conquer and wipe out the Canaanites etc. God allowed that so that the plan and message of salvation could be carried safely by the Jewish family for us all and so that there was a place that the law of Moses and story of salvation could be rolled out that could teach humanity who God truly is. Father Abraham through obedience to God - would have sacrificed dear Issac on Mount Moriah but God speared Abraham that pain but not so himself almost 1500 years later when He spared not His dear Son on the same mountain. Jesus said clearly 'Thou Shalt not kill'. What Zionist Israel, which is mostly secular is doing to Gazzans by every definition is genocide. I am ex New Zealand Military and I know with a certainty that Israel has broken so many rules and international laws of military conflict it is terrible - God's true people today would never do this - for any reason. I am also equally clear that Hamas committed evil terrorism on Oct 7. To try and justify what Israel is doing now is to reject every aspect of what Jesus taught and still teaches today through the Holy Spirit. I pray your eyes will be opened to the biblical and spiritual truth of this matter. Every child regardless Israeli or Palestinian or Chinese has a right not to be targeted for slaughter. May Israelis accept Jesus as their saviour and join the true Israel who accept, trust and obey our Lord and Saviour. Peace to you dear Rosane.
@@rosanejosephhow can the state of Israel today be the descendants of Jacob when Jeremiah says the tribe of Judah are black like the ground ?? How is it possible if Moses prophesyed the real Israelites would go into slavery on ships and be sold to their enemies after being scattered around the world?? When did those European So called Jews ever go in slavery on ships ?? Infact they meticulously financed the transatlantic slave trade. We need credible sources because the whole world knows so called African Americans went into slavery on ships and were sold to their enemies for bondmen and bondwomen and are still in the lands of their captivity today like the prophecy says. There is a major case of ifentity theft going on and King David & Christ prophesied this. Psalms 83 & Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 who are these people they speak of ?????
@@rosanejoseph You are right, the poster is wrong, but only at the end of his reasoning. He needs to read Zechariah 10-14, and Revelation. The Jews will come to Christ in the tribulation period. Also, anyone who accuses Jews of genocide is a liar and slanderer.
Hello my brothers and sisters, My name is Israel C, About 7 years ago I was sleeping and the noises of the frogs woke me up, I read the holy bible the same day in the afternoon I was reading the book of revelation, When I read chapter 16 verses 12/16 I remembered the voices of the frogs that I had heard in the morning, I believe in the holy bible, I sent the message to almost all the kings of the world, I did it because the father the son and the holy Spirit have helped me too much, thank you so much,
God had said He will never abandon His people, so why should we? Support them by praying for their salvation, peace n protection during their crucial times of need is d least that a Christian should do.
¡$r’s existence today is as a result of countless criminal and ter ror ist acts committed to expel and oppress the Christian and Muslim Palestinian population.
You must read all of the Bible, not just Genesis 12:1-3. The promise was to Abraham and His Seed. His Seed ( Genesis 3:15) is JESUS. This promise has been fulfilled in Christ. Galatians 3. Read it and believe it. Especially verse 3:16. "Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ." THE SEED IS CHRIST (John 12:23-24) And Galatians 3:26-29: "For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED and heirs according to the promise.
You are taking this out of context of the whole counsel of God. Read and understand the book of Hebrews. Read and understand Romans, especially chapters 9-11. Read all of the Bible. Stop taking a verse out of context and making a false heretical theology from it. May God, in his kindness, bring you to repentance.
You have to keep reading to Romans 11. Also there is MUCH more to the Bible that meets the eye.....here's an example; If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored. There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example, In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6 Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger.... Joel 3:2 speaks a prophecy about God judging the nations for dividing the land. Sadly most Christians sit in churches that don't teach Bible prophecy.
@@megb6820funny, but those books make it beyond clear that there IS no distinction, that Israel is THE CHURCH, aka believers, and that we're now under a NEW COVENANT while the old is literally done away with. You should actually take your own advice.
@@megb6820 Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
There are many Jews who neither support Israel or have any desire to live there - in circumstances like this I am mindful of Hannah Arendt's observation "If you are confronted with two evils, thus the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether...The weakness of the argument has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget very quickly that they chose evil".
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
Our LORD GOD made man in his image not just the Hebrews. Since he’s out of time and all time he chose a group of people that would allow him the LORD to be seen by all and move pieces around. The modern people whom live in Israel are lost they covent the land. Jesus our savior told us to follow him and love our LORD, and love our neighbors as ourselves. If you love yourself you don’t cheat, steal, lie. The list goes on! Our LORD graphed us cause he wants us all to love him and one another! However he said he would prune the tree if you harden your heart to him. All will be judged!
God does not break covenants. He is the same yesterday, today , and forever. And the Jewish people are his chosen. As Gentiles, we are crafted in and are co heirs. So, of course, we pray for Israel and all ppl. Christians are being murdered and imprisoned in this world. People are dying during this war, Christian or not Christian on both sides, Muslim, Jews, non Christians, he loves everyone. God is pouring out his Holy Spirit on ALL people. PRAY.💜🙏
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
*God NEVER chose any people based on their bloodline descent from Abraham. According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity. God repeated this over and over.* *EZEK 47: 21 “You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves AND for the foreigners residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as NATIVE-BORN ISRAELITES; along WITH YOU they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23 In whatever tribe a foreigner resides, there you are to give them their inheritance,” declares the Sovereign Lord.* *SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH* Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3. Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5. Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1. Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20. Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22 Psalm 87:4-5. Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17 Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21 Isaiah 56:3
@@U2Brrr That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites
Lol, easy answer, no. Phew.... enjoy your freedom in Christ, for we are in Christ. A Jew is not Jew by circumcision, and the people of God are not by land but by faith. (Romans, Galations)
If God doesn’t keep His promises to the Jews because of their sin, then He’s not going to keep His promises to you. You can’t read the Bible, especially prophecy, and not see that God is in the process of fulfilling the promises He gave to Israel as we speak. Replacement theology is a doctrine of demons.
Is there not a differentiation to be made between Biblical Israel and Political Israel? I was struck by a quote when Israel was attacked by Hamas in February 2023. The essence of a person on the ground at the music festival was; 'We were dancing to the music, then all hell broke loose and everyone ran to the Budda'. While Gods Covenant regarding Israel is still in place, it is the Jews who seek Yaweh/Jehovah/Jeshua who are upholding the Covenant while other secularists, while under the Covenant, are not the heart of Biblical Israel. They are living as the Israelites and Judahites who were taken to Assyria and Babylon for their disobedience.
Cepher Ya'acov "To the twelve tribes scattered abroad" Not crafted into broken branches enjoying the root and the fatness of the Olive Tree. He nade the two sticks Yahudah and Y'israel one stick. Ashkenazim are decended from Khazarim who were Tartarian. Not semitic rather Japhethites. There are more descendants of Jacob in Gaza than the Colony of Israeli There houses were bulldozed and businesses stolen, pushed into a cranmed Concentration Camp we call State of Gaza.
With this, I wholeheartedly agree. ‘Dual Covenant (Jews are saved through being Jewish and keeping Torah whilst Gentiles are saved through faith in Christ)’ is blasphemous heresy. Throughout ALL TIME salvation from sin is through faith in the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of the Messiah (Isa.43:11; Hos.2:4; Rom.1:16-17) Simonline 🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
What we need to realize is that God’s plan and purpose is much much bigger than individual salvation for Jew or Gentile. God intends to redeem his entire Creation (no, I’m NOT a universalist). Simonline 🏴🤔🙏😀👍🇮🇱
Whenever I read Romans 11, it seems to me that God is allowing a vail over the eyes of the Jewish people, for the sake of the Gentiles: "(verse 30) For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, (verse 31) so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now[e] receive mercy. (verse 32) For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all." And, if anyone is in doubt that God has rejected the Jewish people: "(verse 28) As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. (verse 29) For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." I don't think it can be read any other way.
How is it that you see this and SO MANY Christians do not? How is it that even pastors cannot see it in black and white? The denying by Israel of Christ was actually caused by God. God DELIBERATELY caused Israel to not see the Messiah. This was needed for the Gentiles to come into the family of God. This is why I don't think anti Israel Christians are saved because its like God has blinded them deliberately. A CHILD can read Romans 11 and understand it....
“But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Jeremiah 31:33.
Yes, and Spiritual Israel will inherit it, including those believing gentiles who were later grafted in. This does not mean any group replaces another, not in any sense. Whoever is a true son of Abraham will inherit.
It’s my understanding Paul is speaking about gentile proselytes being grafted in, prior to Christ’s death and resurrection, not believers of the gospel Jesus gave to Paul (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) who are members of the body of Christ, the church.
Were any cut off, grafted out, removed etc from that rootstock? Any reference to the church being true Israel? Spiritual in nature? Let's see if you've ACTUALLY read your Bible, or if you're just repeating very select talking points that don't address a bigger picture.
He is not talking about saving faith in Christ. He is saying that the covenant God made with Abraham is real, and Christians should recognize that. The Bible makes it very clear that salvation is through faith in Christ, but Romans chapters 9-11 also affirms that there will be a time of salvation for Jews, and a saving of Israel.
God will restore his nation, Israel, but that doesn't mean that before that happens, we should agree with all of their actions. We must point them to Christ.
Over 200,000 dead Palestinians. How about them? Lebanon is 20% Christian, lineage going back 2000 years, so OG Christians. Will their slaughter wake you up?! Or maybe they are sympathizers too? You make me sick.
What do the following verses mean. Mat 3:9 And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. Mat 3:10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. I would not say I know for sure, but there are enough passages that make it seem like Israel as a nation if they do not accept, Jesus are not a thing. I also believe that it had better be extremely clear if we are going to encourage our government and our church people to vote for money going to them to bomb people.
Here is something from the Bible most Christians do not know. If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored. There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example, In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6 Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
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God never revoked the OT. The NT directly draws from the OT at least 283 times. Dogma is a dog, really. I am glad I am so free to worship in Spirit and Truth, well outside the so-called church. As I metaphorically eat at home, not dine in restaurants, doesn't mean I lost my faith in food.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
Great comments by this teacher, but Alisa Childers, this topic deserves an in depth dive. It isn't possible to really cover it in 5 minutes. The comments here show that.
We are to follow and support Jesus only, the true Israel, the one Seed of Abraham, not men or nations. That is the great delusion of 2 Thes. 2 that will make deluded christians support the anti christ false messiah and his mark, the six pointed star of remphan (Amos 5:26-27). Google that star and see for yourselves.
Ow, I wonder Paul didn't know that 'Jesus is the true Israel' when he proclaim that God still keeps his promise of salivation of Jews and the blessing of the whole world through them. I think Israel according to the bible will forever be the chosen people of God and that is a good news to humanity all across
We have to bless ISRAËL, religious or not, praying for their salvation. For protection in this very difficult times, during the war. For the IDF, the hostages etc. etc.
God's covenant never changes. Replacement theology is heresy. The birth of the modern state of Israel in 1948 was an absolute miracle. Their victory in the 6 days war was absolutely a miracle. Jesus is returning to Israel! For clear teaching on this subject, listen to Jan Markell, Jack Hibbs, and Amir Tsarfati just to name a few. Many secular Jews in Israel are becoming believers -God is NOT done with the Jewish people!
The covenant was confirmed and completed in Jesus Christ, who 100% fulfilled every promise God made to His people. And Gentiles are grafted into the olive tree with believing Jews....BELIEVING Jews only. Unbelieving Jews are cut off of the tree, per Romans 11.
@@Bruce_Peters yes, we're grafted in, no disagreement there. But I believe there is a different issue regarding the Jewish people and the physical land of Israel. Jeremiah 30:3 prophesies how God would bring them back into the land, and He's done that - in fact, it's still happening. The land is theirs; His promise didn't end.
It's not "replacement theology", it's "fulfillment theology". God's purpose has always been "by faith". Abraham *believed* God and it was credited to him as righteousness. The basis for faith remains the same, and Abraham is the father of faith. The writer of the book of Hebrews went to great length to tell them the original purpose was to bring everyone to Christ by faith. The church is the fulfillment of God's purpose. The Jews were part of the process and now can be co-heirs with Gentiles. That's great news. But they have to believe. "The righteous shall live by faith". Non-believing Jews are not cooperating with the plan today.
Don’t use the word heresy. Heresy is reserved for those beliefs which will damn people to hell, things like not believing in the resurrection or the Trinity. Regardless what one thinks of modern day Jews or Israel, it has no bearing on eternal salvation which is found only in Jesus Christ. A lot of people who you might call replacement theologians will be in heaven and any Jew or Israelite, along with any Gentile who does not come to Christ will NOT be in heaven.
Truth is Jeremiah and Hebrews tells us that it's the House of Judah and the House of Israel that will receive the New Covenant. When we receive Christ and walk in God's commandments as he did, we are no longer gentiles, we are now grafted into Israel. Hallelu Yah!
Not sure why this is so hard. He mentions Galatians 3 and then does not quote it. Gal 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Christians are also grafted into the Vine. Jesus is the vine, not Israel. So we are grafted in Jesus not Israel.
WOW.....this is SO WRONG. Read Romans 11 in the NLT version so it is easy for you to understand. Paul covers this matter. The passage isn't saying that natural Israel doesn't belong to God. It is saying that Christians are grafted in. Israel are natural branches, Christians are not.
@@neiljoseph2330 Where am I SOOOOOOO Wrong? Let's see Jesus is the Vine. (John 15:5) Check. We are grafted into Jesus. Romans 11:17. Check. Not a whole lot here to get sooooooo wrong. I quote Gal 3:29. Is Galatians 3 so wrong? There are 2 whole points here, which are both correct so the only thing left is Galatians 3. You say this: "The passage isn't saying that natural Israel doesn't belong to God." which if you read my big long statement is no where to be found. Oops sorry I changed my login. I'm the same person.
When God told Israel to wipe the nations from Canaan was it done in a "godly" manner? God told them to kill EVERYONE. They were instructed to kill man, woman, and child. Is that a godly manner? You are determining for yourself what is "godly" when in reality you should leave that to God. When Israel became a nation in 1948 they fulfilled Bible prophecy. If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored. There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example, In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6 Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
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Christians should love Jews, and are God's chosen people, and the promises God made to the Jews will stand forever. Past, present, and future, described in God's Word.❤😊
The concept of Israel IS AND ALWAYS WAS A metaphor. The fact that it now exists as a nation does not change that, nor does its mere existence legitimise that nation. I pray for all my friends of all faith and of none in the same way as I pray for Christian children from Christian families, because we are all God's children.
Thankfully I have studied all the views and can say this man has got to study "Covenant Theology" The Christian Church in the new testament is the 'fulfillment " of the covenant promises. Voddie Bauchem has a great series on this and I urge people to take the time and listen.
I have appreciated all I've seen of your videos Alisa. But very disappointed that you show only this one very biased view which doesn't answer the questions you asked at the beginning. Very sad.
He just glossed over the grafting part, as if to insinuate the rootstock was left whole and not largely trimmed in of itself. Scripture is clear true Israel is the church, and is spiritual.
The Bible is very clear, God IS NOT done with Israel, I think it is very serious how we treat Israel, especially as followers of Jesus, and as a country ,my personal opinion is this, that this country is the greatest country in the world because of Christians and the way we have been a friend to Israel, I'll go a step farther than that, an enemy of Israel is an enemy of God. God keeps HIS promises!!!!
show me the NT verse that says "God is not finished with israel". Jesus said of the Jews "the kingdom of God shall be TAKEN AWAY from YOU and given to a nation producing its fruit". God is finished with OT israel. OT israels ONLY purpose was to bring forth the messiah, THAT was done 2000 years ago,
271 / 5 000 I agree. Not being perfectly clear on the subject, namely that the Jews (those of the tribe of Judah, therefore not all of Israel) are part of the alliance made with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whether or not they recognized their Messiah, is the door open to anti-Semitism.
He actually answered it about seven times. Go back and listen to it carefully, and see how many ways he said that God has NOT forgotten His promise, that WE were grafted IN/THEY were not grafted OUT, that antisemitic teachings against an ethnic Israel began when Jerusalem didn't exist, so many in the Church rationalized that it "must" not mean a national Israel.... but now Israel DOES exist, because *God kept His promise and fulfilled prophecy about them*!!
@@cherismith5707 I think they're speaking in regards to the current Israel/Palestine/Gaza situation going on right now- that's where most peoples' minds are going to in regards to supporting Israel nowadays.
I feel called by the Holy Spirit to support Israel. It started before this war and then also during this war. I also feel that Jews will acknowledge Christ one day, as it says in the Bible.
I am a secular Jewish Israeli and I am now starting to read the Bible 🙏🏻
wow, praise God! I pray you find the truth about Jesus as the Messiah, and that you continue reading God's Word! May the Lord bless you :)
Do you know "One for Israel" ? Or Ariel Ministries? Both Jewish organisations provide a lot of great material. Also, Dr Michael L Brown.
I am Jewish and accepted Christ. He is truly the Messiah.
@@allisonn6355 wow really ????
@@chriscross5188 yes I have heard.
It’s tragic that some Christians don’t seem to understand that the whole theme of the Bible, which is Jesus and what he came to do for mankind. All prophecy and promises made to Abraham were fulfilled through the death and resurrection of Christ. It’s always been about God and his people, who are is people? Anyone who puts their faith in Christ Jesus and that’s it.
@@williamramirez246 Amen 🙏 🙌
True but remember God has still a covenant with national state of Israel which will come into fulfillment after they recognized it through Jesus's return. In Matthew's gospel Jesus said the bread cannot be given to the dogs (non-Jews). Read in context. Yes they rejected Him but He will establish His eternal kingdom from Jerusalem as Israel as a nation. Read second half of the book Ezekiel.
Jews are the apple of God's eyes. It's on us Christians to support their right to defend their country from Islamic attacks. Those who curse Israel shall be cursed while those who bless Israel will be blessed.
@anton74624 where does the bible say the nation of Israel? Doesn't it state the descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob? Specifically, those who believe He is I AM? It's not a nation. It's the descendants. More specifically, those who worship Him in spirit and truth. Non believing and those worshipping pagan gods will be judged the same as non believing and pagan practicing gentiles.
"We are just like Christians except that don't believe in Christ." Was sort of my perspective on them growing up.
The irony was lost on me
I stand with humanity, stop war
i am a believer and follower of the Lord Jesus Christ. i do not owe my devotion to anyone but Him and His bride, the Church, the Body of Christ. I certainly do not have to “support” or defend anyone who rejects Him, His teachings, and defiles Christian’s.
my salvation is not based on the condition that I bless or support a politically motivated regime and war. Nothing happening over there is being done to glorify the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. just because you call a land Israel doesn’t make it Israel.
Amen ...not everyone who is circumcised are Jewish.... Zionism is satanism.......not even the orthodox Jewish community recognised them..
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Amen sis - this is the point I have been trying to make...I am a protestant Pastor in New Zealand and I cannot believe how many Christians cannot see the plain and definite truth in God's word. NO ONE who rejects our beautiful saviour will enter into Heaven - and there is no such thing as saved by nationality - we are saved on an individual basis by faith in Jesus. If that isn't enough, God's end time people are here described in Revelation 14:12 as those who 'Keep the commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus' - Killing babies for any reason breaks the 6th commandment and rejecting Jesus is the exclusion point for anyone. Paul longed for the Jewish family to be spiritual Israel - those who accept Jesus by faith and who accept the good news of the gospel. Telling Jewish people they are saved because their Israeli or jewish is the worst thing a true Christian can tell them and it is babylonian doctrine. God bless you for believing bible and gospel truth not this unbiblical nonsense.
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Wow that's powerful am Africa and you
Any Jew that rejects Christ will be in the exact same position as any non Jew… judgment and eternal separation from God
These loonies seem to think there are two, concurrent, and completely contradictory covenants running at once.
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This is more complicated than your answer. Jews do accept the Messiah. There is complete misunderstanding by Christians through the lack of understanding of Dispensational theology. A Jew struggles with the light weight knowledge that many Christians have and when they do convert they become Messanic Jews.
The thing is that most religions accept Jesus as a prophet, as a teacher, as a role model. The only one to be furiously hateful toward Jesus is Judaism.
Jesus really really humbled them. "God could make sons of Abraham out of the stones." Is not something Netanyahu would want to hear. And as far as where Jesus is right now according to the Talmud, it's bad.
@@NorthernMigrationTravel Be careful with that statement- Christian Dispensationalism believes that Israel will have a functional role to the nations when Jesus rules the nations at His return to earth (see Isa. 2:2-4; Matt. 25:31).
When people ask the question “do you support Israel” what exactly do they mean? Support Israel in what - any political or cultural move they make? Or does it mean we recognize they are God’s covenant people? As His covenant people, we see often in the OT God calling Assyrian or Babylon to come and take Israel into exile when they had rejected them. Had we lived back then, would we have “supported Israel” and fought against God’s plan to reprove them?
I recognize the Abrahamic covenant, and believe God still has plans to fulfill toward Israel. I do not think everything they do as a nation is without error. I hear internet pastors speaking in a way that implies “supporting Israel” means supporting anything and everything the Israeli government says and does….even God Himself did not support them when they trusted in their own strength.
So…when you ask the question “should Christians support Israel” please be more specific. What do you mean?
I agree. I support the Jewish people in Israel and worldwide. That doesn't necessarily mean that I support the Govt of Israel. I pray for peace.
@@MegUSN52I'm curious, do you support all Italian or Serbian people all over the world too, or is it just Jewish people specifically? If it's Jewish people specifically, please define what you believe "Jewish" means, and please explain what about those specific people that you support and why. Genuinely asking.
Agreed 👍
@American-Jello the children of Israel are God's possession, the apple of his eye... (Biblical)... back to "support". As a Christian, I pray for the Salvation of all people and in particular the Jew because as Scripture puts it... we are indebted to the Jew and God's Salvation through Jesus is for the Jew first and then for the non=Jew like me. I hope this helps.
@@nickmatthews604 Do you believe those l0iving in Israel today have any relation to the ancient tribe of Judah? Reading Rev. 2.9 and 3.9 appears to contradict that quite clearly.
I do not stand with a nation or group, I stand with the innocent children of God who have been forced out of their homes, starved, raped, tortured and/or murdered. no matter their religion or nationality.
Sorry...wrong theology. The children of God are only those who have come to Christ. No doubt God is pained to see the suffering of thousands of people in the Middle East, but they must leave their evil ways, repent and, come to God through Christ. He is the only way.
@@alexandrasevilla9690 When I
say “children of God” I am not making a statement about them being “children of God” because they are saved, I say that term because they are all made in the image and likeness of God and and deserve to be treated with dignity just as everyone else, I’ll always stand up for those innocent people whether or not you think it’s the “correct” theological opinion or not.
@@alexandrasevilla9690 As my friend used to say, you’re right, but you’re dead right (dead being the operative word). What you say sounds extremely callous. God cares about all of humanity whom He created in His image. God is not waiting for us to repent and come to faith in Him before He will show any genuine care and concern for us? Remember, it was whilst we were yet sinners that Christ died for us. We should show genuine care and compassion for all humans (especially those in the womb) irrespective of their gender, ethnicity or political allegiance. This is how we demonstrate the love of God to the world and that Judeo-Christianity alone is the truth.
That being said, you are right in rejecting universalism that says all roads lead to God and we should just be nice to one another since that is manifestly untrue (Jn.14:6; Acts .4:12)
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@@simonline1194 Not at all insensitive, it pains me to see the destruction in Gaza, but I understand well who is the cause of all that destruction and death; and let me tell you that it was not the state of Israel that caused it. Now, without a doubt, Christ died for us, even though we were sinners. But, to be saved, we all, we must all come to Him in repentance. Jews, Muslims, atheists, and those who say they are Christians and really are not. Recognizing that we have fallen from God's grace and repenting is the essence of the gospel. Tell me what's so insensitive about that? Finally, let me tell you that it is very comfortable to judge the decisions of the Israeli State when you do not live in that place. They have been bombed from the north by Hezbollah for a year. A year ago Hamas entered their territory and killed, burned, raped men, women, and children. What do you think the US government would do in a case like this?
@@alexandrasevilla9690yes, it completely is and was the occupying nationstate of Israel that is, and will continue to be, the cause of all this.
Just say you don't understand history - regional or biblical both - and be done with it.
Shilling for warmongers is disgusting.
Blind support for what is today ISRAEL is equivalent to idolatry.
True
God will bless those who bless Israel.
God bless Israel.✨✨✨
I am blessed. 🙏🕊️🔥🇮🇱
@@William-l9k with the coming of Jesus on earth and because of that and His work at the Cross, the new Israel, the Israel of God, the new heavenly Jerusalem describe the true believers who really became spiritual.
@@William-l9k Please provide the verse.
@@William-l9k That not in scripture! the name "Israel" was not mentioned in Genesis 12:3.
God will NOT bless a people that rejects Him (Jesus Christ).
The answer to every question of "Is blank a must for Christians?" is a resounding no, unless the blank is to believe the gospel. Our faith must only rest in the blood of Jesus -- his death, burial, and resurrection for our justification. There is nothing we can add to the gospel, and there is no additional requirement to be saved.
As a Jewish believer in Jesus sharing the gospel with the Jewish people in Israel, I thank you for this video. God still has a plan for our Jewish people (Romans 11)
Great point regarding the recent re-establishment of the Jewish state and its effects on the revelation of biblical prophecy. ❤
You are 100% wrong, and are completely blind, lost, deceived, unsaved, and outside of the kingdom of God as are all those who are so absolutely ignorant that they support Godless Israel. Repent!
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@@thecamelliadiaries ,...Repent!
I believe Israel is still God's people. Yes, until Jews accept Jesus as Messiah, they do not have eternal life. Yet, God still offers some protection when people have tried to wipe Jews out. God promised to save a remnant of Israel. My thought is that Israel will accept Jesus. They will then be complete. Jesus promised when Israel said "Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord" He would come for His Nation.
@@carriestout6422 ,...What you believe is not only wrong, but also meaningless. The only thing that matters is what God believes (what the truth is).
The Godless nation of Israel is cut off and has been divorced by God and they have nothing whatsoever to do with God, Jesus, the truth, the gospel, nor the Christianity of the Bible, nor will they ever. They are all accursed of God.
The remnant of Israel are the very, very, very few actual Christian that exist. These few actual Christians have nothing to do with Godless Israel, nor do they have anything to do with the church/Christianity that is all 100% apostate just as the jews are.
As this scripture below tells you, the jews/Israel are completely desolate and will never ever turn to God. They will only see Jesus when he comes on judgement day and the Godless jews and the rest of the Godless world will all acknowledge that Jesus was/is the Messiah.
Luke Ch. 13,
35, "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.?
Why are we never as Christians talking about the synagogue of satan in the book of revelation?
Because they are Zionist, thats why....
To find out who rules over you, look at the ones you cannot criticize.
Because that was referring to Jewish persecution of the Church nearly 2000 years ago.
Lol...they still do exist my friend ...Zionism is one@@georgelugenalt200
isnt about the jews
Hopefully true Christians understand that God is no respecter of persons, we’re all equal in his sight and we should be praying for all nations to be blessed, focusing always on Israel tells me people are not reading or understanding their Bibles.
Sorry israel is the apple of God's eye Not Cuba not America not Argentina Israel is . HE that's keeps Israel does not sleep nor slumber all through the Bible God has fought for Israel not any other nation please pray that you may understand what you are reading.
@@ramon4348 in God there’s neither Jew nor gentile, we’re all equal, they served a purpose and that’s it, they are done, so much that Jesus promised the destruction of their precious city, I invite you to think critically, would God have in high esteem a nation that killed Jesus and not only that but continue to reject him even to this day
Some are descendants if Cain the murderer and they are satan son. Educate urself even the two host.
@@ramon4348 *NO actual or claimed bloodline descent from Abraham was EVER required to join the HOLY nation back then in Sinai, or throughout Ancient Israel's history, OR with the True Israel of God now (Gal **6:16**). The church has not replaced Israel because ISRAEL WAS ALWAYS A CHURCH (Acts 7:37-38) and we are grafted into that Israel Rom **11:11**. No DNA was or is EVER required for membership---only true FAITH! So with Israel having ALWAYS been a church why would people today support ANY group claiming to be Israel by DNA?*
Very true dear Wendy - Its about time people started correctly reading their bibles and not falling for the trap that christian zionism is that distorts their understanding. I pray for peace and salvation for Israeli people the same way I do for all people. I will not support a nation that wholly rejects Christ and commits genocide.
Well l think true Christian will support humanitarian efforts
Romans 2:28-29
King James Version
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Christians will be adopted into Israel, and NOT the other way around. Yes we are grafted in, but Israel is the root, not the church.
And also want prosperity more land and believe that they are better than anyone else
@@GERALD9912 And believe God is a racist favoring them over everyone else.
@@Truth_sets_me_free Paul is speaking to Jews comparing law keeping apart from genuine faith using circumcision as the example. If you’re a gentile, I hope you don’t think you’ve become a Jew inwardly because you have faith in Jesus. In Christ, Jew and gentile, male and female are one in him but doesn’t negate the fact that ethnicity and gender still exists.
@@sprsmoke 1 The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amoz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
A Rebellious Nation
2 Hear me, you heavens! Listen, earth!
For the Lord has spoken:
“I reared children and brought them up,
but they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knows its master,
the donkey its owner’s manger,
but Israel does not know,
my people do not understand.”
We should support peace no matter what countries are involved.
Tell that to national (not spiritual, TRUE) Israel.
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God is merciful. Through us he gives mercy. The people that are staving and dying need mercy. Is sacrificing a people for self interest merciful? If we watch let a people starve and die and do nothing, does that make us apart of it? When we die, will God ask us if we promoted death and destruction or peace and mercy? God is love.
Thank you for saying this. I'm glad there are more Christians out there that feel this way. I have felt like I'm the only one.
@patroney2438 you are not alone. We have to do our best to speak to people who don't believe in mercy. Mercy is given, not earned. God is merciful. God is love
Short answer:No. Christian’s are under no obligation to be zionists nor to support the modern state of Israel. They are under an obligation to stand up for the rights of the oppressed and care for the orphan and widow.
@thyikmnnnn
Christian’s are obligated to support Israel.
Romans 9:4
Isaiah 49:6-> John 4:22
Matthew 19:28
Daniel 2:44
Deuteronomy 7:6
2 Samuel 7:24
Deuteronomy 32:9-10
@@johnmann8659 These passages are not talking about the modern state of Israel. What would Israel have to do for you to not longer support them? How many more must die?
@@johnmann8659What do you mean by 'support Israel'?
@@craigandersen540
Be like Jesus.
Luke 1:67-75
Zechariah 14:1-5
@johnmann8659 Another lazy on-response. Does 'supporting the godless secular nation state of Israel' mean that I am somehow obligated to support financially the Likud party and it's killing of innocent women and children?
Pls keep in mind...the Lord is not a member of the Likud party!
Also, since you are so fond of Scripture references, read Romans 2:28-29.
Supporting Israel doesn't mean we don't hold their leadership accountable, regardless of where you stand on this issue.
The Abrahamic covenant is about blessing all nations through his Seed, none other than Jesus (read Galatians). The Covenant is New (read Hebrews) and the land is the whole earth (read the Great Commission). Salvation is by Grace, not Race.
So simple. No twisting or taking out of context old text that had a lot of ancient history happen afterwards.
Do know the actual meaning of salvation in the Bible?? Because in the Bible salvation is yahwehshi delivering his people out of the hands of their enemies as it written!!
@@ManuGeorge777
The Abrahamic covenant is only for the Jewish people not the church. The end time harvest ( great commission ) is for everyone who is born again.
What you are believing is called replacement theology.
@@William-l9k *According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity. God repeated this over and over.*
*EZEK 47: 21 “You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves AND for the foreigners residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as NATIVE-BORN ISRAELITES; along WITH YOU they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23 In whatever tribe a foreigner resides, there you are to give them their inheritance,” declares the Sovereign Lord.*
*SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH*
Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3.
Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5.
Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1.
Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20.
Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22
Psalm 87:4-5.
Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17
Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21
Isaiah 56:3
@@William-l9k YOU who are replacing the faith-based 'Israel of God' (Galations 6) with a race-based concept of Israel. Even in Gen 17, God made the circumcision covenant with the MIXED-MULTITUDE household of Abraham, his blood-sons and foreign-born slaves. Later, God covenanted with the MIXED MULTITUDE that came out of Egypt, and proved their FAITH in Him, and thus become Israel (Exodus 19:5). God then repeatedly invited foreigners to become full Israelites with full inheritance and lands rights--based on their Abrahamic FAITH ALONE! Not Abrahamic DNA.
Choseness by God ALWAYS depended on grace not race. Faith not DNA! The only person's DNA that matters is the true, pure Lamb Himself, Jesus.
What does "support" mean? Standing with Israel whatever evil they commit?
What evil are they committing in the war, then?
@@georgelugenalt200kicking old women out of their homes in the West Bank. Labelling all Palestinians are terrorists. Could go on.
The evil was started by the demonic terrorist group called Hamas.
If they return the hostages the war will be over.
God will bless those who bless Israel.
Jesus is the commander of heavens armies.
As Christians we obey our King.!!
🙏🔥🕊️🇮🇱
@@georgelugenalt200killing over 43,000 people, implementing genocidal policies. Seriously you that naive?
@@gusawad8121so not one of those 43,000 people was a Hamas soldier? Give me a break
Christian people should follow Jesus.
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
God still has plans for Israel, maybe not all Jews are going to be saved but God will redeem Israel when Jesus returns to Jerusalem to rule in the millennial kingdom. God loves Israel and will fulfil His covenants
@amandagotts4823 you are talking as if Israel was a state when Paul says this in Romans. He was talking about a blood line. There has always been a remnant (he was one of them) that will be saved. Will many be saved when the Military messiah rules from Jerusalem? Hopefully, many will see on that day that the Jesus the Messiah they rejected was the true Messiah, not the one they now are looking to build a temple for.
@@amandagotts4823 God will not treat one race better than another. For is now a racist. Jews still have an opportunity to turn to Christ if they choose. Either you’re in Christ or not- no other option.
@@amandagotts4823 amen! He is faithful even if every man is a liar. God will redeem Israel and like Paul says “when the age of the Gentiles has come to an end, all Israel will be saved” Romans 10-12
@@tatyanamorozova8467 He will show favor on whom He will show favor… (Exodus 33:19; Romans 9:18) and concerning Israel He said “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. I will be your God and you will be My people.”
The OT is not allegory, it’s legitimate proclamation of His eternal and unconditional promises of His faithfulness to Israel even if she behaves like Hosea’s wife, He loves the Jewish people as the apple of His eye. He says so. Which actually is good news to everyone because if He loves even a people hated and despised, sinful and faithless, how great is His love for you who love Him also?
This is not a favor to envy but as example of His enduring love so that us in the church can take heart that He will always forgive us and He will always love us because He still loves Israel. 🇮🇱
YAHWEH says all of Israel will b saved.
I am a Christian and do believe in Jesus Christ who brought salvation for us all. There is no more jew nor Gentile. We are all children of God. I dont have to submit to the evil earthly state that's massively killing innocent people to be made right with God
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Romans 11. God has not rejected His people. They have not stumbled beyond recovery. We should pray for the Jews salvation and support the Jewish state because they are our allies and have put up with tremendous attacks including Oct. 7. Are they perfect? No. Are the majority of Jewish people out of the will of God? Yes. But God has not given up on them. There has always been a remnant. But one day the Jews will come to acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah.
Paul in Romans 11 says, "God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all." The disobedient Jew is no different than a disobedient Gentile. Like the gentile, ver. 23, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be saved. Paul was referring to his contemporary Jews, meaning himself, the disciples, and all those who began the first church. That truth continues today. There is only one people of God, they are found in Christ.
How exactly are they our allies? I know people keep repeating that, but how is that true?
@@velocirayYet Paul makes a distinction between the Jew and the Gentile all throughout Romans, especially chapter 11. It clearly states God is using us now to bring them back to Him.
@@J6warriorwe have always had a great relationship with Israel. They are a beacon of freedom in that region of the world. I got to visit a few years ago. If you haven't had that opportunity I'd really encourage you to go and see the connection we have with them.
@@jambox9919 Ok thanks for the update on your vacation but I'm talkin geopolitics. How are they our allies? What do WE get out of this relationship? I know they get billions from us.
A true Christian should think what Jesus Christ would have done in such scenario.
@hashem2009able
The Bible tells you what Jesus does to Israel’s enemies.
Zechariah 14:1-5
Luke 1:67-75
Hebrews 6:20-> Psalm 110:4-7
I don't have a Bible. What does the verses say@johnmann8659
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
@@johnmann8659 that's a lie. Jesus doesn't support evil.
@@johnmann8659wow..Jesus did all those himself??..any prove he said those things in direct quotes?..
Has anyone read Romans 9-11? Paul says in Romans 9: 1-5 that all those covenants and promises are still in the present tense. And he says in Romans 11 that the gifts and callings can't be revoked. So either Paul is lying and God revoked everything or else we need a basic class in hermeneutics. Christian's need to stop with their insecurities about Israel. Jesus is Israel's Messiab and he is the Messiah for the whole world. No, you don't have to agree with everything their government does. Jesus will return to Israel, not the U. S or anywhere else.
Or maybe Paul wasn't Jesus, and he wasn't right 100% of the time. Just a thought!
Paul wrote that 2000 years ago about those Jews of his day.
@ericchabot6512 the military state of Israel rejected the true Messiah. They are and will try to take the land promised to Abraham (who was not a jew) by force. They are waiting for a military Messiah who will set himself up in the temple they will build for him and claim he is God. Why would any Christian support the great delusion that brings for the man of sin? Will there and has there always been a remnant of the OT Israel saved? Yes but if Christians actually cared about what Paul said then they would be evangelising to the Jews not supporting the military madness we see infolding
@@bjrgstre-mauger5398 Israel rejected the Messiah because God caused them to and IFFF you read Romans 11 it says that clearly... Also, God told Israel to wipe the same people from the land thousands of years ago. You have a problem with God now? You can't determine how God does things. You are nothing but a human, dust, nothing more without the Lord. Do you think you can question God?
If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored.
There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example,
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6
Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
Joel 3:2 speaks a prophecy about God judging the nations for dividing the land. Sadly most Christians sit in churches that don't teach Bible prophecy.
@@marcfischer8644 _Or maybe Paul wasn't Jesus, and he wasn't right 100% of the time. Just a thought!_
Or that you are calling God a liar by trying to claim he wasn't right 100% of the time as all scripture is God breathed (2 Timothy 3:16-17, 2 Peter 3:15-16). Just a thought, for you. You are looking unstable per scripture.
*15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation- **_as also our beloved brother Paul,_** according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, **_which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures._*_ -- 2 Peter 3:15-16_
I think it’s possible to love Israel and Palestine. I don’t think anyone is of the people of God on the basis of ethnicity, but I do believe that on the basis of being a person we, people of all ethnicities and nations, are made to God’s imagine.
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Thank you so much. Those that adhere to "replacement theology" are, in essence, calling God a liar. They are saying that God will not fulfill His promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Roman's chapter 11 makes clear He is not done with His people. It also makes clear to believers about how we are to think of them.
Jesus's first message was love. We are all misinformed about the situation in Israel. Zionists are a terrible group and not Christian. That multiple sites in Palestine, particularly in Jerusalem, have religious significance to Christians, Muslims and Jews is not what is being contested, nor is the idea that a dedication to a political cause or peace and justice cannot stem from one’s personal religious beliefs. Rather, what is being contested is that Palestinians continue to resist Zionism for purely religious reasons or that the roots of the colonization of Palestine are religious.
A lot of people criticize what they call replacement theology. I wonder if they even know what it is? Premillennialists, particularly dispensationalists, don’t like any criticism of modern day Israel or Judaism. But the idea that they are God’s chosen people is not found in the New Testament. They were God’s chosen people who had the oracles of God and brought the Messiah into the world. Any Jew in Jesus’ day or today, who rejects Jesus as the Messiah, is blinded and is not part of God’s chosen people unless and until they renounce their own form of salvation and turn to Christ alone. It is believers in Jesus who are part of God’s kingdom and who are truly God’s chosen people.
@@lisafries1715 All the promises God made to Israel were fullfilled in Christ. There are no promises remains for ethics Israel.
Abraham was not a jew....think about that. If it was his natural offspring that would inherit the land, then it would Ishmael and Jacob!! It was through his SEED which is Jesus that all nations will be blessed. That SEED is Christ!! All in Christ are Israel. "Out of Egypt I called my Son". Those in Christ will inherit the Land promised to Abraham no matter what nationality. That is what the 1000 year reign is for. That is why we are seated in Christ for when He return we will rule with Him !!
Zechariah 2:8 For thus says the Lord of hosts, "After glory He has sent me against the nations which plunder you, for he who touches you, touches the apple of His eye.
Zechariah 13:8 makes reference to 1/3 coming through the fire, refined and tested.
Romans 11 is clear about the current condition of the Jews (partial hardening), until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in. Indeed the whole chapter speaks about how the Lord feels about the Jews and Gentiles.
Then also the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation.
If you study Scripture prayerfully, honestly, and diligently, you will see that God is not done with Israel.
CERTAINLY do not support, blood lusting seeking of vengeance. Tell them by their fruit.
God vowed to fulfill all his promises to Israel, so he will regardless of how people feel about it. What matters is the truth.
He fulfilled his promise. His name was Jesus. This isn’t a difficult concept
@@MrSpolaR You'd think scripture is clear enough but sadly there are those who think there are classes among believers.
@@MrSpolaRyou come across trying to be smarty pants, but you reveal how ignorant you are. If you think all the prophetic promises to Israel have been fulfilled, I don’t know what to tell you. You’re woefully ignorant of the Bible if you think that. Or delusional or you simply don’t believe it the Bible. When the church age, dispensation of grace (neither Jew of gentile) comes to a close, God will go back to dealing with Israel as a covenant nation and will fulfill his promises to them. It’s literally the most prophesied events in the Bible.
The book of Joshua says that the promises of the land were fulfilled at that time. Joshua 21:43-45:
And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.
The promise is fulfilled in Christ..not in a piece of land or secular nation in the Middle East..
I don't recall Jesus saying anything about blindly supporting an earthly nation-state. I'm pretty sure he said that all the law and all the prophets boil down to loving God and thy neighbor as thyself. Thy neighbor does not mean thy fellow member of the same nation state and tribe. It means fellow human being. And I'm pretty sure we are told somewhere in the New Testament that "God is no respecter of persons." And even in the Old Testament, he doesn't say love Israel above other nations. On the contrary, He tells Israel, "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
I will never understand why people keep saying things like "Should true Christians stand with Israel". Israel is a country, like any other. The nation of Israel has nothing to do with being a "true" Christian. People conflate the terms jew, Hebrew, Israelite and Israeli, but they all mean VERY different things and that's important. Too many people believe since Jesus was a Hebrew, and because God initially called the Israelites his chosen people, that Israel will always be. That is FALSE. It also has nothing whatsoever to do with the nation of Israel. Most Israelis (70%) aren't even religious, let alone follow Christ.
Pray for the salvation of all, but if you're a Christian, your only true allegiance is to GOD.
True
Bravo!! Well said!!
yes, at last some true knowledge.
@@American-Jello Thanks for that!
1. Biblical prophecy regarding the regathering of Israel to the land is there for all to see. Jonathan Cahn and others can show you the prophetic Scriptures that even point to 1948. Yes the year of the regathering is actually in the Bible if you know how to calculate it.
2. Romans 11 CLEARLY deals with this matter and I don't know WHY Christians don't read it. Read the passage in an ACCURATE and easy to understand version of the Bible such as the NLT.
3. Paul said "All Israel will be saved" and that Israel is loved because of the patriarchs. We don't understand COVENANT. When Paul said God's gifts and calls are without repentance he was speaking about the call and covenant that God made with Israel.
I do suggest that you all STUDY and if God has not opened your mind for understanding you only store up judgement for yourself when you spread LIES about Israel. It is best ot listen to those who know more than you do. Listen to Jonathan Cahn
Interesting. You should interview Amir Tsafati. During one of his teachings, he reminded everyone that the Church was graphed into the Olive Tree, spiritual Israel, not into the Fig Tree, the nation of Israel. God still has promises he must keep to His people, Israel, and promises He must keep to His Church. God is faithful and is not a liar. I struggle with what God meant by "those who bless Israel will be blessed..." Where is the line drawn between sacrificing financially for our nation vs Israel. Pastor Hibbs once said those who don't support a HUGE financial package for Israel without money to cover our border are of Satan. We're not allowed to ask questions.
grafted not graphed
Jack Hibbs was incorrect
Maybe we should consult scripture when speaking of God fulfilling promises to Israel. Here's what the Word says:
Joshua 21:45 "Not one of all the LORD's good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled."
Why always antisemitism has to come up on this matter. Im sure the Christians that thing that is not biblical to support a nation that is rejecting the Messiah never think on that!
Who is the bride?
Who is the body of Christ?...
Who formed the first Church of Christ? "The Jews apostles." We, Jews or Gentiles, NEED to be the Church of Christ! What is needed is to pray for the salvation of the Jewish around the world and for the rest of the lost souls!
It's not antisemitic to point out that current jews aren't jews
There is a remnant of Jewish believers. Yes, we should pray for the peace and salvation of Israel.
Remnant of Jews are those who accepted Christ, period.
@@tatyanamorozova8467 Yes, that’s what I meant by “Jewish believers.”
@@Maranatha7557 The remanant will be those from all..nations, Gentiles and Jews..
@Maranatha7557 and what does that have to do with a largely secular, counterfeit nation?
@@garethifan1034Yes, the jews that are living like Gentiles. God never dealt with any nation outside of the 12 tribe's of Israel. Psalms 147: 19
Christians should support peace.
Christians should support what God wants them to support. Often times God told Israel to go to war.
Jesus's message was centered on the Kingdom of Heaven, which he taught was present and near. Jesus's teachings included:
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven was present and near, and that it should be the primary goal of Christians.
The characteristics of the Kingdom of Heaven: Jesus described the people who would inhabit the Kingdom of Heaven as the meek, merciful, peacemakers, and pure in heart.
The Golden Rule: Jesus taught to treat others as you would want to be treated.
Forgiveness: Jesus taught to forgive others freely.
Prayer: Jesus taught to pray to God often.
Mercy: Jesus taught to be merciful, as God is merciful.
Peace: Jesus taught that those who
@neiljosephjesus said they r sulynagouge of stan 2330
Not Peace, but a Sword
34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
@kennybryson6542 By your use of this message I know you are not a follower of jesus. This explains the devision he brings by the message of the kingdom between the believers and the none believers not a call for war or violence against your enemies.
In the Bible, Jesus says, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" in Matthew 5:43-44.
Let me clarify this: in Christianity, when someone says they've "taken Christ into their heart," it often seems to be just words, while they may still support actions like the genocide of Palestinians, centuries of enslavement, the atomic bombings that killed millions, and countless other crimes against humanity. All of this stems from an interpretation of scripture that’s rarely questioned for authenticity. People have been given the ability to think critically, yet some fail to use it. Ultimately, judgment will come based on actions, not verbal commitments that lack follow-through. May God have mercy on their souls.
The modern-day secular state of Israel is not the same as the Israel of the Bible, which was a theocracy. Today 49% of Israelis claim to be non-religious; and Tel-Aviv is considered the "gay capital of the world," with 1 out of every 4 people identifying as homosexual. God's biblical covenants with Abraham and Moses have been fulfilled in Christ and the Church. Now all believers in Messiah-whether Jew or Gentile-are one Body, and partakers of God's everlasting covenant; and will inherit the earth on the Last Day.
P.S. I support Israel for non-theological reasons: it's a democracy with Western values in the Middle East, as well as a strong military ally for the United States. Also as Christians, we should pray for our Jewish brethren for their salvation.
Completely agree
Yes and amen
Yes,Israel right or wrong.
Zechariah talks about the day when the people of David, the Jews, “Look on him whom they have pieced and mourned for him as for an only son” and then this man comes and judges the nations for how they treated Israel. The current nation is the prophecy of restoration revealed in our time in anticipation of Christ’s return. It is a Theological purpose that this impossible nation exists and continues to exist, not because Israel is faithful, but because God is. Martin Luther said the only thing that would change his mind on God rejecting and Damning the Jews was for the Jewish people to have a Nation in the Land God promised to them again. Here it is, as Paul says “what if their partial turning has brought salvation to the Gentiles? …what would their acceptance be but life from the dead?… When the age of the Gentiles has come to an end, then all Israel will be Saved.” Romans 10-12
Israel is not the same state as the Kingdom of Judah and is not meant to be. It is the successor state of Mandate Palestine and the Ottoman Empire.
The Jewish people however are matrilineally continuous with the Israelites of antiquity.
They've forgotten God's commandments. Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not steal. Love one another. All will stand before the just judge in the end. God has no favourites. God created all people.
@@agnesholmes5694 To those who remind us that the Jews killed Christ, I say they did it only once.
Muslims kill Christ every day.
I distinguish between the Children of Israel (Jacob) and the country. However, the existence of both doesn't conflict with my understanding of theology... we (christians) are indebted to the Jew... and for the Jew first... etc. In these times I pray for their Salvation (and for all people created in God's image in the world and particularly in the Middle East)...so that as many can be saved by belief in their Yeshua before the Day of the Lord and the Great Tribulation (which is nearer) that this will bring.
The Abrahamic covenant was about faith in the coming Messiah through the Herbrews. However, God said that the covenant of the land would be broken if they didn’t remain faithful. We are grafted in by faith in Christ, so only those who believe in Messiah/Christ are still in covenant and will inherit the land after Christ returns.
Read the account of God's covenant with Abraham where God promised the land of Canaan as an eternal possession. Notice that the Bible tells us that Abraham found himself in deep darkness and he was essentially unable to participate in the covenant. This tells us that it was a one sided covenant where God didn't need Abraham to participate because He already knew Israel couldn't keep up their end, yet He was going to keep His part of the covenant. If you think the covenant about the land was ended by Israel's disobedience you better think again because of what the father of John the Baptist said , in the NT when he finally got his speech back in Luke ch 1 vs 72-73 which says...
" ...to show mercy to our fathers and to REMEMBER HIS HOLY COVENANT , THE OATH he swore to our father ABRAHAM"
So right there the Bible tells us that ,no, the covenant didn't expire because of Israel's disobedience. The problem is that people don't READ their Bible enough, which is something we ALL need to do.
There is no grafting and separation, the point is the mechanism and purpose of the tool. JEWS DON'T MATTER
well said
@@KS-ie6xo please consider this, the mosaic covenant God made with Israel was only entered in to by gentiles if they became proselyte Jews. They we’re required to follow the ordinances/laws as Jews to be God’s people. Is this how we become God’s people today after the cross? Not according to the gospel by which we’re saved today, 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4. As the body of Christ, our inheritance is Christ, already seated with him in heavenly places and that our conversation is in heaven.
And the 144,000 at the end of Revelation??? God is not done with the Jews.
How can you sprt klng chldr in gza ?
The promise of Abraham was given exclusively to Christ. Galatians points that out the promise was made to the singular seed, Christ.
He who does not have the son, does not have the father.
Jesus cursed the fig tree, "May you NEVER bear fruit again."
John the Baptist, "God can raise up Children of Abraham from these stones."
Peter in Acts 3 mentioned Moses told them, "Anyone who rejects the prophet (Christ) will be cut off from the community (Israel)."
Peter said to the church, "You are a royal priesthood, a holy nation. . ."
No mention of the physical Nation needing to be regathered, no mention of Jerusalem needing to be its capitol, no mention of a physical temple needing to be made.
All of this Christan cheering for Israeli nationalism is almost unheard of till the fist world war.
Neither Jesus nor the apostles said anything about it
Wrong, Matthew 24, the whole thing, Zechariah 10-14, Daniel 9. Zechariah goes on at some length about Jerusalem being a stone that nations will try to lift and injure themselves doing so. Very wrong. I know you can't back down, but you are badly mistaken, just saying.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
If the Jews ‘are not relevant’ why does Jesus return to The Mount of Olives, rule from Jerusalem and prepare the New Jerusalem after the Judgement?
Revelation also states that ‘all Israel will be saved’. It is the height of conceit to believe that Jesus rose from the dead as a ‘Christian’. The Bible describes Israel as ‘The Apple of His Eye’. Does God change according to The Bible?
Of course not!
The New Testament is a new covenant. Evidence shows clearly that those living in Palestine claiming to be Jews have no relation at all to the ancient tribes of Israel.
Israel has always been the seed of Promise from Abraham who was not a Jew. Jesus is the true Israel "Out of Egypt I called my Son". All who are in Him are Israel, jew, greek, male or female! Jesus is coming to rule in Jerusalem over the nations but just as there is an Antichrist so is there a a "Anti Israel", both counterfeits. The Antichrist will rule and reign from Jerusalem too before Jesus arrives!! Pretending to be the Messiah and the counterfeit Israel will recieve him in the temple. Yet, as Paul says there is a remnant and is in every generation who choose the real Messiah, the True Israel
You should actually read the Tanakh and pay attention. Israelites constantly disobeyed God. There were wicked kings that God didn't approve of. It got so bad that God withdrew His protection and so the Babylonians sent the Jews into exile.
God allowed the Greeks, and then the Romans, to conquer the Holy Land. When God sent His Son, they rejected Him. They didn't recognise their Messiah. So they started the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans and failed. They failed to realise that Yeshua was (and still is) the New Temple and that blood sacrifices were no longer required.
You should actually read the Tanakh and pay attention. Israelites constantly disobeyed God. There were wicked kings that God didn't approve of. It got so bad that God withdrew His protection and so the Babylonians sent the Jews into exile.
God allowed the Greeks, and then the Romans, to conquer the Holy Land. When God sent His Son, they rejected Him. They didn't recognise their Messiah. So they started the Bar Kochba revolt against the Romans and failed. They failed to realise that Yeshua was (and still is) the New Temple and that blood sacrifices were no longer required.
Something EVERYONE seems to be overlooking is that the question as to whether to support Israel or not has NOTHING to do with what your view is regarding the Church's relationship to Israel. Why? Because even in the Old Testament when they were unarguably the people of God, this still didn't mean they were to be supported every time regardless of what they did or what happened to them. Case in point: in the Old Testament, half of the time they were under attack or suffering catastrophe from their enemies God was on the side of those hammering them - because of their sins and disobedience as a nation. And herein lies the total joke about the Christians that support Israel regardless of nuance or wisdom. You see, Israel is an apostate nation EVEN IF you take Christianity out of the picture. They are a rebellious nation even according to their own standards and laws according to God's word. So even if they were the chosen people of God and even if God didn't replace Israel with the church, they still have a problem because collectively they are apostasy. And in the Old Testament, when they were celebrating LGBTQ, idol worship, etc. they got God's fury.
Even if Israel was held to a totally different standard than the Church or the rest of the world, they are still in trouble because if we time traveled today's Israel back in time to match its practices up with what was required of them in the Old Testament, they are in total rebellion.
Great point, blessings brother.
*According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity.*
*SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH*
Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3.
Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5.
Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1.
Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20.
Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22
Psalm 87:4-5.
Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17
Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21
Isaiah 56:3
Christians should support peace. Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. (and daughters as well:)
The God of Israel and His Messiah will always be faithful to His covenants. As for me and my house, we will stand with Israel. Come Lord Jesus and establish your kingdom.
@andrebecerra7019 Israel of the Bible is not a state. God is faithful to those who have faith because without faith, we are unable to please him. Abraham, who was not a jew is the Father of Faith. He was promised a seed that would bless the nations that would make Abram a Father of all nations. That SEED is Yeshua the Messiah. He came and fulfilled that prophesy. He is the true Israel "Out of Egypt I called my Son". In Him all promises and the Old Covenant is fulfilled. In Him Jew, Gentile, male and female are Sons of the Most High and are Israel. Jesus will rule from Jerusalem during His reign on earth and the land of israel will be the exact size that was promised to Abraham. Yet, we know a military messiah will try and counterfeit this by taking most of this land by force, the state of Israel that rejected Christ are waiting for him to sit in the temple of God as their messiah. We as believers need to stay away from the great delusion that comes with the man of lawlessness (2 thess. 2). We need to evangelise and pray for Jews to come to know their true Messiah before they fall for the false that is coming. Jesus said "I come in my Father's name, yet you do not recieve me: if another comes in his name, him ye will recieve. We must not have anything to do with the darkness to come but shine His light even brighter as we see prophesy unfolding
I agree. God’s word is very clear, and as someone who reads and believes in the whole council of God, I stand with Israel and their right to have a sovereign state and to defend her people.
@@bjrgstre-mauger5398 _@andrebecerra7019 Israel of the Bible is not a state._
Yes it is. God defined the boundries of the nation of Israel, a portion of land dedicated solely for the Jewish nation. Why did God portion out a piece of land with borders if it's not a state? And about your Abraham not being a Jew, that's ridiculous too. He is the father of the Jews as being a Jewish person is defined by being a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, proving your claim is false, insinuating there is no relation between Abraham and the Jewish people. Where are you getting this drivel?
The O.T. Israel is not the current state of Israel. Israel was a person, a land, a people, but it is not the current state. The Promised Land will not be whole again until Jesus returns. We see in the book of Daniel that the little horn will try and conquer and bring that land under his control but will not succeed.
A Jew refers to those from the tribe Judah. The tribes did not yet exist when Abraham lived. He technically was a Caananite because he lived in Canaan. Abraham was chosen to be the Father of Faith not because of a blood line but because his faith made him righteous. It is the SEED of Abraham that all nations will be blessed. That SEED is Jesus, and anyone who believes in Him has Abraham as a "father." If it was about Abraham's natural descendents, then both Isaac and Ishmael would be counted as his offspring.
Jesus is the true Israel. "Out of Egypt, I called my Son." If position and blood line is counted for righteousness, then Jesus would not have said to the Pharisees who claimed Abraham as their father that their Father was the devil. Nor would Jesus have Rahab in His bloodline.
The Bible is clear that we that believe in the Promised Messiah belong to a Heavenly Jerusalem, we are the sons of Sarah while those that are under the Old Covenant are Sons of Hagar (Galatians 4: 21-31)
The Book of Romans explains that the natural branches have been cut off, and we as wild olive branches have been grafted in. No where in the Bible does it prophesy or mention the state of Israel being formed in our time by a people that rejected their Messiah except in Daniel. The little Horn will be the military Messiah that those that rejected Christ are waiting for. Only he and his regime will try to conquer and bring together the land of Israel.
The verse "a nation will be born in a day" is the Ecclesia, not the current state of Israel. Romans 10:19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding."
Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
As for me and my house, we stand firmly against lying, stealing, torturing, killing, and all the other evils that Israel has been committing for the past 76+ years and which God clearly forbids. We are praying for justice for the afflicted and the oppressed, and to be clear, the Israelis are not among the afflicted and oppressed. They are the thugs and oppressors who are showing the world the depths of depravity of which human beings are capable of reaching.
Great conversation. Let the Truth come to light.
Great answer. God made the covenant and will always uphold it.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
@@jambox9919 How many times did God punish israel for their disobedience? If what they are doing now is not wrong in God's eyes then I don't know what would be. And Christians are cheering it on, despicable.
Who are the true Jews? Certainty those who deny Christ Matt 10: 33 “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
. Rev 2:9 “I know your tribulation and poverty, but you are rich.* I know the slander of those who claim to be Jews and are not, but rather are members of the assembly of Satan.
I just posted this but I agree with you and I'll post it again:
An Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics survey published in 2021 found that among Israeli Jews over the age of 20, about 45 percent identified as secular or not religious, while 33% said they practiced “traditional” religious worship. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, known as Haredim in Hebrew, made up 10%.
*Certainly not those who deny Christ.
@@l.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.lMOST are secular atheists. Those "traditional" follow ORAL tradition (Talmudism or Kabbalah, essentially Babylonian pharisees), NOT biblical traditional beliefs that the Judahite Hebrew had of Jesus' time.
The J of today and the J of yesteryear have largely NOTHING in common.
According to the scripture, they will recognize Christ as the son of God. And I believe that the prophecies from the Bible are true.
As a Christian I am called to pray for Israel and the Jews.
However Jesus through His Spirit leads me, that is how I am to support His first covenant people. He has a plan. We are grafted in.
Romans11
And for their enemies as well
God loves them all Israel is a blessing to all by way of Jesus Christ not just Jews and Christians
Lebanon is 20 times more Christian than Israel. Jesus commands us to feed clothe and protect his followers, not those who reject him. "Whatever you did for the least of these, you did unto me." Is about his followers of ANY race or people.
@@fasted8468 you can get jailed for preaching Christianity in Israel they consider it blasphemous
You're not Christian, you're a crypto Jew.
Jews deny Christ. Their cult has been heresy since Christ’s sacrifice.
I agree with Dr. Myers from theological perspective, but I don't think his response is answering the question. When I'm asked "As a Christian, do I need to support Israel" they aren't asking about covenants and eschatology. They're asking if they have to support the modern state of Israel, their claim to the land and the way they operate as a country. Theology around God's covenant with Israel, at least from my perspective, doesn't help us answer those questions.
I think when you study prophetic books like Ezekiel, Isaiah, Zechariah, it becomes clear that the state of Israel, the regathered people, is very much in God's plan and purpose.
Shalom and blessings, Alisa and Jeff. Thank you for the upload, Alisa. The Bible is solid on this topic. The reason so many 'christians' are asking this question is because the church is Biblically illiterate. Every blessing.
Zionism is a political movement and not a religious one. Supporting Zionism is not the same as supporting God's chosen people. This also depends on how you define Israel. Is it simply a geographical location? Or does the Israel of God refer to all those who are united in Christ under the New Covenant...Gentile and Jew alike?
On the Milenium Lord Jesus Will rule from Jerusalen. So, the land of Israel is important too.
In the Bible, God calls the city of Jerusalem ZION, He also calls the land of Israel ZION, and He even calls the people of Israel ZION. This should remind us that the land, the people and the city of Jerusalem are indivisible...and that God is the originator of ZIONISM... God is the original ZIONIST. Anyone who goes against ZIONISM is going against the Bible and God.
@@renevelandia9731 Yes, the Jerusalem which is ABOVE - see Galatians 4:26
Support God's zionism. A restoration of the land and the 12 tribes whom He has been gathering until the return of Christ.
@@renevelandia9731 Reformed eschatology is far more concerning than tribulationist eschatology
Terrible biblical understanding displayed here. Galatians 3 - There is no longer Jew or Greek. The twisting of scripture here is shocking. The covenant is made with all who choose Jesus no different to how Noah and Abraham lived - by faith and grace we are saved when we choose the Lord. The covenant with Abraham was with Abraham. God always has promises for His people - conditional on obedience, faith and love to Him and His Son. Anyone who rejects Jesus reject the one who sent Him - collectively the Jewish religion rejects Christ. Our Jewish family has access to salvation in exactly the same way any gentile does. But national Israel is not the Israel spoken in love by Brother Paul…it is spiritual Israel - the Israel Paul longed for his people to be grafted back into - the vine which is Jesus. In our day - No one who says they are of God would slaughter 10s of thousands of babies for any reason. For the Lord said ‘Thou shalt not kill’. Let us pray for peace and that Jewish people, like all people accept Jesus before He soon appears 🙏
I think you misinterpreted Galatians 3. It's Paul merely explaining that salvation comes to all but God's covenant to the Jewish people is not affected by that 2 Samuel 7:24. God does not change his mind. God's words are eternal. The Israel of today are descendants of Jacob. They are the first born, the apple of God's eye Deuteronomy 32:10 and Zechariah 2:8.
So how can God say you shall not kill and yet commanded Israel to kill (in War) when going to the promised land? Israel is not purposely killing civilians in this modern war and if you cared about such civilians you would want them free of radical Islam, a religion that still kills for apostasy. So if you want them to hear about Christ you would support Israel. Even more if you love God you would love the apple of his eye. He said so himself.
@@rosanejoseph Thank you dear Rosane - but no, I am very clear about what scripture says and what God means when He says through His word people are saved by grace through faith - there is no such favouritism or salvation by race or national identity - all of humanity have equal access to salvation through faith in Jesus. Jesus is clear when says 'Thou shalt not kill'. There are so many scriptures that tell us that whosoever rejects Christ rejects Him / God who sent Jesus and as a collective religious culture they have done just that. When Jesus said in Matthew 23:38 'Your house is left unto you desolate' relates also to when in Matthew 27:41 the veil was rent top to bottom signalling the end of the Jewish Mosaic system and need for their purpose - the Gospel would soon be carried to the Gentile world. Israel the people of old, were always promised things by God that were conditional on their obedience and loyalty. By their killing of Jesus and the fulfilling of Jesus' mission it was the end of their national position as being God's people - Now God's people would live by faith and be justified by their faith and relationship directly with Jesus - each human one on one with God. Ezekiel 37 has been so distorted by Zionists and Zionist Christians they have lost sight of it's true meaning and how that chapter relates to Revelation 21 & 22. Unless we all, whether Jew or Gentile accept Jesus and keep His commandments by faith and love - we will receive the mark of the Beast. You also have an incorrect understanding of why God permitted the Hebrew people to conquer and wipe out the Canaanites etc. God allowed that so that the plan and message of salvation could be carried safely by the Jewish family for us all and so that there was a place that the law of Moses and story of salvation could be rolled out that could teach humanity who God truly is. Father Abraham through obedience to God - would have sacrificed dear Issac on Mount Moriah but God speared Abraham that pain but not so himself almost 1500 years later when He spared not His dear Son on the same mountain. Jesus said clearly 'Thou Shalt not kill'. What Zionist Israel, which is mostly secular is doing to Gazzans by every definition is genocide. I am ex New Zealand Military and I know with a certainty that Israel has broken so many rules and international laws of military conflict it is terrible - God's true people today would never do this - for any reason. I am also equally clear that Hamas committed evil terrorism on Oct 7. To try and justify what Israel is doing now is to reject every aspect of what Jesus taught and still teaches today through the Holy Spirit. I pray your eyes will be opened to the biblical and spiritual truth of this matter. Every child regardless Israeli or Palestinian or Chinese has a right not to be targeted for slaughter. May Israelis accept Jesus as their saviour and join the true Israel who accept, trust and obey our Lord and Saviour. Peace to you dear Rosane.
Amen.
@@rosanejosephhow can the state of Israel today be the descendants of Jacob when Jeremiah says the tribe of Judah are black like the ground ?? How is it possible if Moses prophesyed the real Israelites would go into slavery on ships and be sold to their enemies after being scattered around the world?? When did those European So called Jews ever go in slavery on ships ?? Infact they meticulously financed the transatlantic slave trade. We need credible sources because the whole world knows so called African Americans went into slavery on ships and were sold to their enemies for bondmen and bondwomen and are still in the lands of their captivity today like the prophecy says. There is a major case of ifentity theft going on and King David & Christ prophesied this. Psalms 83 & Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 who are these people they speak of ?????
@@rosanejoseph You are right, the poster is wrong, but only at the end of his reasoning. He needs to read Zechariah 10-14, and Revelation. The Jews will come to Christ in the tribulation period. Also, anyone who accuses Jews of genocide is a liar and slanderer.
I think you would find having Steve Gregg on your program very helpful especially in regards to the subject airing today.
Hello my brothers and sisters, My name is Israel C, About 7 years ago I was sleeping and the noises of the frogs woke me up, I read the holy bible the same day in the afternoon I was reading the book of revelation, When I read chapter 16 verses 12/16 I remembered the voices of the frogs that I had heard in the morning, I believe in the holy bible, I sent the message to almost all the kings of the world, I did it because the father the son and the holy Spirit have helped me too much, thank you so much,
God had said He will never abandon His people, so why should we? Support them by praying for their salvation, peace n protection during their crucial times of need is d least that a Christian should do.
So did God abandon them when Christians were killing the jews??
Amen to this! Israel's existence today is a miraculous act of God fulfilling His covenant promises! Thank you for this, Alisa!
@@fbermeo Anyway those dollars might be directed to Israel by God.
The jews don’t even believe in Jesus whereas the Muslims love and respect Jesus!
@@AC-iw5mv Muslims don't believe what Jesus even said. How could then they love Him? They might love fabulous Isa, not Lord Jesus.
¡$r’s existence today is as a result of countless criminal and ter ror ist acts committed to expel and oppress the Christian and Muslim Palestinian population.
It's commited genocide
You must read all of the Bible, not just Genesis 12:1-3.
The promise was to Abraham and His Seed.
His Seed ( Genesis 3:15) is JESUS.
This promise has been fulfilled in Christ.
Galatians 3. Read it and believe it.
Especially verse 3:16.
"Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ." THE SEED IS CHRIST (John 12:23-24)
And Galatians 3:26-29:
"For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED and heirs according to the promise.
You are taking this out of context of the whole counsel of God. Read and understand the book of Hebrews. Read and understand Romans, especially chapters 9-11. Read all of the Bible. Stop taking a verse out of context and making a false heretical theology from it. May God, in his kindness, bring you to repentance.
You have to keep reading to Romans 11. Also there is MUCH more to the Bible that meets the eye.....here's an example;
If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored.
There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example,
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6
Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
Joel 3:2 speaks a prophecy about God judging the nations for dividing the land. Sadly most Christians sit in churches that don't teach Bible prophecy.
@@megb6820funny, but those books make it beyond clear that there IS no distinction, that Israel is THE CHURCH, aka believers, and that we're now under a NEW COVENANT while the old is literally done away with.
You should actually take your own advice.
@@megb6820 Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
Yahweh the of the Bible never dealt with anyone outside of the 12 tribe's of Israel. Psalms 147: 19
Her: “Should Christians support Israel?”
Him: “So I grew up in a middle class family..”
There are many Jews who neither support Israel or have any desire to live there - in circumstances like this I am mindful of Hannah Arendt's observation
"If you are confronted with two evils, thus the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether...The weakness of the argument has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget very quickly that they chose evil".
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
Our LORD GOD made man in his image not just the Hebrews. Since he’s out of time and all time he chose a group of people that would allow him the LORD to be seen by all and move pieces around.
The modern people whom live in Israel are lost they covent the land. Jesus our savior told us to follow him and love our LORD, and love our neighbors as ourselves.
If you love yourself you don’t cheat, steal, lie. The list goes on!
Our LORD graphed us cause he wants us all to love him and one another! However he said he would prune the tree if you harden your heart to him. All will be judged!
God does not break covenants. He is the same yesterday, today , and forever. And the Jewish people are his chosen. As Gentiles, we are crafted in and are co heirs. So, of course, we pray for Israel and all ppl. Christians are being murdered and imprisoned in this world. People are dying during this war, Christian or not Christian on both sides, Muslim, Jews, non Christians, he loves everyone. God is pouring out his Holy Spirit on ALL people. PRAY.💜🙏
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
*God NEVER chose any people based on their bloodline descent from Abraham. According to scripture, ANYONE who demonstrated Abrahamic FAITH and Abrahamic OBEDIENCE could be called a 'descendant of Abraham' and full-born Israelites with full ownership in the land. Ethnic homogeneity never mattered to God then or now for ownership of the land. Ancient Israel came out of Egypt as a MIXED MULTITUDE and was established as a nation of FAITH not bloodline at Sinai (Exodus 19:5). The land was thus gift-rented to them based on that Abrahamic FAITH and OBEDIENCE not any ethnic homogeneity. God repeated this over and over.*
*EZEK 47: 21 “You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22 You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves AND for the foreigners residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as NATIVE-BORN ISRAELITES; along WITH YOU they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23 In whatever tribe a foreigner resides, there you are to give them their inheritance,” declares the Sovereign Lord.*
*SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF CHOSENNESS BY FAITH*
Gen 17: 10. Gen 18. Gen 26:2. Gen 28:3.
Exodus 12: 4. Exodus 12: 48, Exodus19:5.
Num 9:14. Num15:14. Num 15:1.
Num 15:16. Num15:19. Num 15:20.
Levi 19:34. Levi 24:22
Psalm 87:4-5.
Esther 8:17. 2 Chron 6:32, 17
Ezek 14:7. Ezek 47:21
Isaiah 56:3
@@U2Brrr That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites
Is standing with Christians living in the West Bank and Gaza a must for true Christians?
Your local televangelist will never acknowledge their existence
Theres almost zero Christians livin there
@@bbygrlpt2 see what i mean
@@bbygrlpt2because an occupying force of unbelievers pushed them out for the better part of 80 years now.
Guess who that is?
@@nomdeguerre8464 Unbelievers are the ones is gaza who didnt belong in Israel. So they did the right thing
Lol, easy answer, no. Phew.... enjoy your freedom in Christ, for we are in Christ. A Jew is not Jew by circumcision, and the people of God are not by land but by faith. (Romans, Galations)
If God doesn’t keep His promises to the Jews because of their sin, then He’s not going to keep His promises to you. You can’t read the Bible, especially prophecy, and not see that God is in the process of fulfilling the promises He gave to Israel as we speak. Replacement theology is a doctrine of demons.
Exactly
Amen!
@@velociray People get antsy when the Bible is brought into it. 😅
Yes
The same chapter that says gentiles were grafted in says jews were broken off, and for them to be brought back in they must accept Christ.
Is there not a differentiation to be made between Biblical Israel and Political Israel? I was struck by a quote when Israel was attacked by Hamas in February 2023. The essence of a person on the ground at the music festival was; 'We were dancing to the music, then all hell broke loose and everyone ran to the Budda'. While Gods Covenant regarding Israel is still in place, it is the Jews who seek Yaweh/Jehovah/Jeshua who are upholding the Covenant while other secularists, while under the Covenant, are not the heart of Biblical Israel. They are living as the Israelites and Judahites who were taken to Assyria and Babylon for their disobedience.
Cepher Ya'acov "To the twelve tribes scattered abroad"
Not crafted into broken branches enjoying the root and the fatness of the Olive Tree.
He nade the two sticks Yahudah and Y'israel one stick.
Ashkenazim are decended from Khazarim who were Tartarian.
Not semitic rather Japhethites.
There are more descendants of Jacob in Gaza than the Colony of Israeli
There houses were bulldozed and businesses stolen, pushed into a cranmed Concentration Camp we call State of Gaza.
He that does not have the son has not the father. So for all jews they have to come by way of the cross there is no other salvation for them.
One way - Jesus Christ. For jews and for gentiles.
With this, I wholeheartedly agree. ‘Dual Covenant (Jews are saved through being Jewish and keeping Torah whilst Gentiles are saved through faith in Christ)’ is blasphemous heresy. Throughout ALL TIME salvation from sin is through faith in the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of the Messiah (Isa.43:11; Hos.2:4; Rom.1:16-17)
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What we need to realize is that God’s plan and purpose is much much bigger than individual salvation for Jew or Gentile. God intends to redeem his entire Creation (no, I’m NOT a universalist).
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his "nation" is a spiritual one. So there's that.
Jesus and his church are the true Israel. Not some country, it’s not about the land anymore.
@toma3447
Romans 11:1-2
Romans 9:4
Amos 9:14-15
Exodus 32:13
Genesis 13:14-16
Psalm 105:8-11
Isaiah 60:21
@@johnmann8659 Jesus is the king of Israel. Jesus is the true Israel.
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So Jesus is a King of a Nation with no people?
@@johnmann8659 Jesus is Israel. King of all who follow him, gentile and Jews.
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Aren’t his disciples the judges of the 12 tribes (Matthew 19:28) once they resettle into their land? (Ezekiel 47 and 48)
Whenever I read Romans 11, it seems to me that God is allowing a vail over the eyes of the Jewish people, for the sake of the Gentiles: "(verse 30) For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience, (verse 31) so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now[e] receive mercy. (verse 32) For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all." And, if anyone is in doubt that God has rejected the Jewish people: "(verse 28) As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. (verse 29) For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." I don't think it can be read any other way.
How is it that you see this and SO MANY Christians do not? How is it that even pastors cannot see it in black and white? The denying by Israel of Christ was actually caused by God. God DELIBERATELY caused Israel to not see the Messiah. This was needed for the Gentiles to come into the family of God.
This is why I don't think anti Israel Christians are saved because its like God has blinded them deliberately. A CHILD can read Romans 11 and understand it....
“But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Jeremiah 31:33.
It is believing Gentiles who are grafted in, and it was not just the land of Israel that was promised. God granted Abraham THE WORLD 🌍.
Yes, and Spiritual Israel will inherit it, including those believing gentiles who were later grafted in. This does not mean any group replaces another, not in any sense. Whoever is a true son of Abraham will inherit.
The Millennial Kingdom (1,000 Year Reign)
Father of many nations
It’s my understanding Paul is speaking about gentile proselytes being grafted in, prior to Christ’s death and resurrection, not believers of the gospel Jesus gave to Paul (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) who are members of the body of Christ, the church.
Were any cut off, grafted out, removed etc from that rootstock?
Any reference to the church being true Israel? Spiritual in nature?
Let's see if you've ACTUALLY read your Bible, or if you're just repeating very select talking points that don't address a bigger picture.
Can't believe this man doesn't know everyone must be born again to have eternal life through Jesus Christ. John 3; Romans 1.
But at 4:53 he says he prays that all his Jewish friends will come to faith in Jesus.
He is not talking about saving faith in Christ. He is saying that the covenant God made with Abraham is real, and Christians should recognize that. The Bible makes it very clear that salvation is through faith in Christ, but Romans chapters 9-11 also affirms that there will be a time of salvation for Jews, and a saving of Israel.
@@greentree14Israel is the church, so...
God said those who curse israel will be cursed and those who bless Israel will be blessed .
This blessing was given to Abraham in Genesis 12.
God was speaking to Abraham when He said that, and Abraham is an Old Testament type of Christ.
Yes. Abraham proceeded Israel. Some Evangelical Christians just parrot anti-Christian Zionist talking points and call it Biblical. Low IQ stuff.
That's right and He does not change His mind.
You stopped reading the Bible in Genesis 😮🫣
I honestly thought Alisa would be more biblically literate and discerning - she has failed terribly here on both points. :-(
God will restore his nation, Israel, but that doesn't mean that before that happens, we should agree with all of their actions. We must point them to Christ.
Praying for and standing with Israel from Louisiana
Why?
Over 200,000 dead Palestinians. How about them? Lebanon is 20% Christian, lineage going back 2000 years, so OG Christians. Will their slaughter wake you up?! Or maybe they are sympathizers too? You make me sick.
You are supporting a state that kills, steals and destroys. That what Jesus said Satan does.
What do the following verses mean.
Mat 3:9 And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.
Mat 3:10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
I would not say I know for sure, but there are enough passages that make it seem like Israel as a nation if they do not accept, Jesus are not a thing.
I also believe that it had better be extremely clear if we are going to encourage our government and our church people to vote for money going to them to bomb people.
Here is something from the Bible most Christians do not know.
If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored.
There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example,
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6
Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
Shhhhh! Don't tell the so-called "Judeo Christians" (an oxymoron) to, you know, actually READ their bibles!
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
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God never revoked the OT. The NT directly draws from the OT at least 283 times. Dogma is a dog, really. I am glad I am so free to worship in Spirit and Truth, well outside the so-called church. As I metaphorically eat at home, not dine in restaurants, doesn't mean I lost my faith in food.
That isn't Isreal man made after 1945 and those aren't j3ws European converts...whole thing propped up by whyte supremacy system and biased elites not telling the truth they are part of the problem..stealing identities and land , k*lling the natives to that land then telling the whole world lies about who you really are is something else wicked...all lies get exposed eventually nobody is immune to time and God is not mocked
Great comments by this teacher, but Alisa Childers, this topic deserves an in depth dive. It isn't possible to really cover it in 5 minutes. The comments here show that.
We are to follow and support Jesus only, the true Israel, the one Seed of Abraham, not men or nations. That is the great delusion of 2 Thes. 2 that will make deluded christians support the anti christ false messiah and his mark, the six pointed star of remphan (Amos 5:26-27). Google that star and see for yourselves.
Ow, I wonder Paul didn't know that 'Jesus is the true Israel' when he proclaim that God still keeps his promise of salivation of Jews and the blessing of the whole world through them. I think Israel according to the bible will forever be the chosen people of God and that is a good news to humanity all across
We have to bless ISRAËL, religious or not, praying for their salvation.
For protection in this very difficult times, during the war.
For the IDF, the hostages etc. etc.
God's covenant never changes. Replacement theology is heresy. The birth of the modern state of Israel in 1948 was an absolute miracle. Their victory in the 6 days war was absolutely a miracle. Jesus is returning to Israel! For clear teaching on this subject, listen to Jan Markell, Jack Hibbs, and Amir Tsarfati just to name a few. Many secular Jews in Israel are becoming believers -God is NOT done with the Jewish people!
The covenant was confirmed and completed in Jesus Christ, who 100% fulfilled every promise God made to His people. And Gentiles are grafted into the olive tree with believing Jews....BELIEVING Jews only. Unbelieving Jews are cut off of the tree, per Romans 11.
@@Bruce_Peters yes, we're grafted in, no disagreement there. But I believe there is a different issue regarding the Jewish people and the physical land of Israel. Jeremiah 30:3 prophesies how God would bring them back into the land, and He's done that - in fact, it's still happening. The land is theirs; His promise didn't end.
It's not "replacement theology", it's "fulfillment theology". God's purpose has always been "by faith". Abraham *believed* God and it was credited to him as righteousness. The basis for faith remains the same, and Abraham is the father of faith. The writer of the book of Hebrews went to great length to tell them the original purpose was to bring everyone to Christ by faith. The church is the fulfillment of God's purpose. The Jews were part of the process and now can be co-heirs with Gentiles. That's great news. But they have to believe. "The righteous shall live by faith". Non-believing Jews are not cooperating with the plan today.
Don’t use the word heresy. Heresy is reserved for those beliefs which will damn people to hell, things like not believing in the resurrection or the Trinity. Regardless what one thinks of modern day Jews or Israel, it has no bearing on eternal salvation which is found only in Jesus Christ. A lot of people who you might call replacement theologians will be in heaven and any Jew or Israelite, along with any Gentile who does not come to Christ will NOT be in heaven.
@@davidborrink137 AMEN... Well said.🙏
Truth is Jeremiah and Hebrews tells us that it's the House of Judah and the House of Israel that will receive the New Covenant. When we receive Christ and walk in God's commandments as he did, we are no longer gentiles, we are now grafted into Israel. Hallelu Yah!
Not sure why this is so hard. He mentions Galatians 3 and then does not quote it. Gal 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Christians are also grafted into the Vine. Jesus is the vine, not Israel. So we are grafted in Jesus not Israel.
WOW.....this is SO WRONG. Read Romans 11 in the NLT version so it is easy for you to understand. Paul covers this matter. The passage isn't saying that natural Israel doesn't belong to God. It is saying that Christians are grafted in. Israel are natural branches, Christians are not.
@@neiljoseph2330 Where am I SOOOOOOO Wrong? Let's see Jesus is the Vine. (John 15:5) Check. We are grafted into Jesus. Romans 11:17. Check. Not a whole lot here to get sooooooo wrong. I quote Gal 3:29. Is Galatians 3 so wrong? There are 2 whole points here, which are both correct so the only thing left is Galatians 3. You say this: "The passage isn't saying that natural Israel doesn't belong to God." which if you read my big long statement is no where to be found. Oops sorry I changed my login. I'm the same person.
The nation of 'Israel' was made with force in 1948 in UnGodly manner.
When God told Israel to wipe the nations from Canaan was it done in a "godly" manner? God told them to kill EVERYONE. They were instructed to kill man, woman, and child. Is that a godly manner?
You are determining for yourself what is "godly" when in reality you should leave that to God. When Israel became a nation in 1948 they fulfilled Bible prophecy.
If you take the year that they were punished after defying King Cyrus in 538BC and you take the number of years God said he woud banish them from the land (430 yrs), take their remaining years of judgement after spending 70 years in captivity (360 yrs) and then multiply by 7 as promised in Leviticus for a harsher punishment you get 2520 years. When you adjust that for the 360 day calendar you get the year 1948. You can actually calculate the year Israel was going to be restored.
There are MANY prophecies in the Bible about Israels regathering. For example,
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6
Israel is the 7th largest exporter of fruit in the WHOLE WORLD. Just as the prophecy said. There are entire books on this subject by the way so there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more. I suggest that you seek the truth on this subject. Those who curese Israel will be cursed and you will not know in what way you are cursed. That is the danger....
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Christians should love Jews, and are God's chosen people, and the promises God made to the Jews will stand forever. Past, present, and future, described in God's Word.❤😊
God DIVORCED Israel.
The concept of Israel IS AND ALWAYS WAS A metaphor. The fact that it now exists as a nation does not change that, nor does its mere existence legitimise that nation. I pray for all my friends of all faith and of none in the same way as I pray for Christian children from Christian families, because we are all God's children.
Thankfully I have studied all the views and can say this man has got to study "Covenant Theology"
The Christian Church in the new testament is the 'fulfillment " of the covenant promises.
Voddie Bauchem has a great series on this and I urge people to take the time and listen.
I have appreciated all I've seen of your videos Alisa. But very disappointed that you show only this one very biased view which doesn't answer the questions you asked at the beginning. Very sad.
He just glossed over the grafting part, as if to insinuate the rootstock was left whole and not largely trimmed in of itself.
Scripture is clear true Israel is the church, and is spiritual.
The Bible is very clear, God IS NOT done with Israel, I think it is very serious how we treat Israel, especially as followers of Jesus, and as a country ,my personal opinion is this, that this country is the greatest country in the world because of Christians and the way we have been a friend to Israel, I'll go a step farther than that, an enemy of Israel is an enemy of God. God keeps HIS promises!!!!
God fulfilled his covenant with Israel through Christ. Pretty sure the Bible is crystal clear on that
@@MrSpolaR where does it say that?
show me the NT verse that says "God is not finished with israel". Jesus said of the Jews "the kingdom of God shall be TAKEN AWAY from YOU and given to a nation producing its fruit". God is finished with OT israel. OT israels ONLY purpose was to bring forth the messiah, THAT was done 2000 years ago,
The palestinians are the jews. They have been there for 2k years.
The church is the new israel, the current country of Israel, is frankly the synagogue of satan in Revelations
he didnt answer the question
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I agree.
Not being perfectly clear on the subject, namely that the Jews (those of the tribe of Judah, therefore not all of Israel) are part of the alliance made with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whether or not they recognized their Messiah, is the door open to anti-Semitism.
He actually answered it about seven times. Go back and listen to it carefully, and see how many ways he said that God has NOT forgotten His promise, that WE were grafted IN/THEY were not grafted OUT, that antisemitic teachings against an ethnic Israel began when Jerusalem didn't exist, so many in the Church rationalized that it "must" not mean a national Israel.... but now Israel DOES exist, because *God kept His promise and fulfilled prophecy about them*!!
@@cherismith5707 I think they're speaking in regards to the current Israel/Palestine/Gaza situation going on right now- that's where most peoples' minds are going to in regards to supporting Israel nowadays.
He definitely answered it. God hasn't forgotten the Jewish people. There's still a plan for them. He said that in so many ways.
I agree, concerning the politics, he didn't. Otherwise yes
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I feel called by the Holy Spirit to support Israel. It started before this war and then also during this war. I also feel that Jews will acknowledge Christ one day, as it says in the Bible.
Then you are not called by the holy spirit mate. The holy spirit is all about peace, not genocide and the shedding of innocent blood.