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Idea to make a Wizard or Pact of the Tome Warlock with Magic Initiate and Rotual Caster to have a character whos constantly shuffling through different books XD
Thinking of doing this with a Paladin, the BBEG dropped his spellbook last session and no one in our party has a use for it ... for now. >:) Plus, I will save so many spellslots by doing several rituals for free! Purify food and water? Check. Find steed? Check. And so many other useful spells for the party! Now I can finally use up all my spellslots during combat, without having to fear for my out-of-combat uses of said slots. Paladins sadly have only a few slots, so this is a godsend. Great video! :D
I love this as a player and as a dm. It lets the player expand what they are able to do but it lets the dm have control of what new spells to prevent it from breaking your game.
I disagree with saying a wizard doesn't really benifit from this. It basically alows you to multiclass without multiclassing. There are so many utility druid or cleric ritual spells unavailable for the wizard. It mostly depends on the flavor you want your character to have.
Fair point! Although I find the wizard to have some of the best ritual spells in the game! I suppose that if you want to provide a different feel to your character, without making the commitment to multiclassing, this is perfect... Well said, good sir! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment! Feel free to use the Discount Code 'COMMENT', and get a free One Shot at chancesguild.com/collections/job-board!
This also benefits a wizard. I agree. But I believe it benefits them in the way that a Wizard doesn't HAVE to prepare these ritial spells in order to cast them. They're always available, as long as they're written down in the book. You can save your space and prepare spells you really need..
Ritual books don't fall from the sky when you learn this feat any more than crossbows fall from the sky when you learn Crossbow Expert. You buy an empty spell book, plus inks and components, and you hire a suitably skilled NPC (who also knows the spells you want, or you find or buy them on scrolls) to teach you how to use it (or you ask someone who owes you a favour, perhaps a fellow party member if you're really lucky). If you don't have a decent Arcana skill this could take a while, and possibly lots more money, until you've mastered the feat and have your two 1st level ritual spells written down and fully understood. Off the top of my head I can't remember if there's any guidance as to how much downtime this might take, but a minimum of four weeks seems reasonable to me.
Part of me wishes this feat was just the book of shadows the warlock gets, where you can copy ANY ritual into it. But maybe at an EXTRA 50 gold per level
One question that now arose in me with the new artificer is that spell updated on that i personally would allow artificer for it if he is a fullcaster (dont really know if he is one).
I was like, who can simplify this feat for me so I can decide if I want it or not? Then I searched for this video (Playing a Firbolg Druid and I found like three eligible wizard spells, and I was already thinking of getting the feat lol)
Good summary. Agreed on Pals finding this very useful and on Find Familiar. Watch out for the Arcana check for copying from scrolls, though. A as a quick note Tomelocks get RC on steroids via Book of Ancient Secrets. They can just poach rituals from every class and I've even heard of a Tomelock Shillelagh combo since the BoAS makes Cha the Shillelagh "hitting" stat. And you can select it at third level asap if you pick druid for your first rituals.
Very great points! Also interesting combo idea! I've actually already done the videos on the Eldritch Invocations and I personally thing Book of Ancient Secrets is a little overpowered haha! I really appreciate the comment though, I'll have to pin it!
I feel much safer now that the wave length has broken, also... That's a lot of text... So basically, if your super rich, hire someone to make a magic scroll that can be cast as ritual, copy it into book, and then sell scroll... You have just effectively added spell to you spell list, and possibly removed the representative cost of the Ink and materials. Maybe use it to buy a new scroll and repeat. Basically 'free' spells added to your known spell list as long as you never loose your ritual book or find a way to bind it to you so it CAN'T be lost/destroyed
Haha I'm happy to hear! I also like your idea, I could see it working into one of my games! Lets say, for example: You took the Criminal background, and you use your Criminal Contact to acquire and resell spell scrolls for a profit. Until one day your Criminal Contact stops responding, and you hear a rumor that they've been captured by the local Arcane Guild! They've caught wind of you cutting in on their market, and have decided to take matters into their own hands... I think it would be pretty fun haha!
The last DM I played with liked to mix and match additions. One of his rules was that you actually had to find a familiar before you were able to cast find familiar. I was a Monklock and I was able to get my hands on a lemure fresh out of Avernus. Before they that I got a hell fire obsidian dagger and a set of soulstones. Long story a little less long I was able to harvest enough soul nrg to raise me my very own Imp. She was so greatful that she used native magic that we later learned in order to basically turn my flesh into a spellbook via the ritual caster feat.I love how Sean would do stuff like that to make all of our characters feel truly unique.
its probably kinda complicated to have 2 different kinds of spellcasting stats so probably better to pick cleric if you take that up as a druid and so on
Good point! Although I think it would depend on how you intend to use the Feat. Most Ritual spells are utility, and don't actually have a need for a DC
@@ChancesSpellbook some update i told my dm i wanna use it for my druid and as she uses a home rule that it must fit the character she told me she figured a way out to let me gain access to that divination spells, also makes sense for my druid to get cleric spells as she is an acolyte. P.S. Divination is my favorite school of magic and I hope it will help in the dire quest of my druid!
Hi! I have a question. I'm on my very first character, she is a barbarian (path of the beast) but she comes from a scholarly upbringing and is an archivist. I want to take either ritual caster or magic initiate as a feat for this and was wondering which one you think would be better for this character?
"How do you get this ritual tag thing? First it says I learn spells that can be cast as rituals, then it says the spell needs to have a ritual tag. How do I get that and use it?" Misaka Misaka asks super confused while considering giving up trying to learn this game.
Pretty sure ritual tag just means the spell is marked internally as being able to cast as a ritual. I don't think its an actual obtainable item. And just a personal opinion, The game seams hard to understand, but just focus on a bit at a time, you'll get there. I may be still new and learning but Trying to understand everything all at once is what made me unable to grasp it my first time I tried. You'll get there. PS: Nice Last Order profile picture. Super Cute!
@@Blossoming_Fate is 100% correct! The Ritual tag is labeled in the spell description. I've been working on a Playlist to go into all of the Ritual spells, sadly it probably won't be done for a while. In any case, if you're new to the game I'd recommend staying away from the Casters, at least until you've seen someone play one.
I kind of feel like ritual casting should be treated as a language, but then I'm in favor of high magic campaigns. what's the difference between warlock rituals and Python? are Bard rituals really just FL studio?
@@ChancesSpellbook human variant sorlock, magic initiaite, ritual caster, meta magic adept (tashe's), this is gonna be fun. i'm also considering trying to replace 1 of them with warcaster since it's so good.
Obviously if the Magic Initiate spell has a Rirtual Tag you can cast it both ways. You can't change the spell for M. I. and you dont need to for ritual caster bc. you add more spells to your book without losing the first 2.
I'm using it on a V. Human Ranger, but I chose Wizard. They have really good ritual spells, more common to find their books for new spells, and I specifically wanted Find Familiar.
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Idea to make a Wizard or Pact of the Tome Warlock with Magic Initiate and Rotual Caster to have a character whos constantly shuffling through different books XD
love that idea.. i feel like its more of a wizard charecter, or here is a curveball.. lore bard? ;)
Rotual? What's that?
Thinking of doing this with a Paladin, the BBEG dropped his spellbook last session and no one in our party has a use for it ... for now. >:)
Plus, I will save so many spellslots by doing several rituals for free! Purify food and water? Check. Find steed? Check. And so many other useful spells for the party!
Now I can finally use up all my spellslots during combat, without having to fear for my out-of-combat uses of said slots.
Paladins sadly have only a few slots, so this is a godsend. Great video! :D
Not as good as a Warlock with the Pact of the Tome. That makes for an awesome utility character, especially once you have the tiny hut spell.
I completely agree, it scales really well!
So can you pick your own class? For example a cleric choosing a cleric Ritual book in order to free up spell's to prepare? Keep up the amazing videos!
You actually get to choose from any class! Essentially giving you the ability to be a Cleric who can cast wizard ritual spells!
@@ChancesSpellbook I get that but if I wanted could I pick my own class?
@@trinxty6099 Yup, I guess you could!
I love this as a player and as a dm. It lets the player expand what they are able to do but it lets the dm have control of what new spells to prevent it from breaking your game.
Ahh yes, wisdom the nerdiest class that uses intelligence
Haha good point!
I disagree with saying a wizard doesn't really benifit from this.
It basically alows you to multiclass without multiclassing. There are so many utility druid or cleric ritual spells unavailable for the wizard. It mostly depends on the flavor you want your character to have.
Fair point! Although I find the wizard to have some of the best ritual spells in the game! I suppose that if you want to provide a different feel to your character, without making the commitment to multiclassing, this is perfect... Well said, good sir!
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Divination Wizard finally being able to actually get Divination not like they idk should have it by default.
This also benefits a wizard. I agree. But I believe it benefits them in the way that a Wizard doesn't HAVE to prepare these ritial spells in order to cast them. They're always available, as long as they're written down in the book. You can save your space and prepare spells you really need..
I don't know if you notice it or not but, you said intelligence for wisdom when you meant wizard. also love the video thank you for making it :)
i had some thoughts about it you actually have to do some rp in acquiring said book ritual books dont just fall from the sky or do they?
Ritual books don't fall from the sky when you learn this feat any more than crossbows fall from the sky when you learn Crossbow Expert. You buy an empty spell book, plus inks and components, and you hire a suitably skilled NPC (who also knows the spells you want, or you find or buy them on scrolls) to teach you how to use it (or you ask someone who owes you a favour, perhaps a fellow party member if you're really lucky). If you don't have a decent Arcana skill this could take a while, and possibly lots more money, until you've mastered the feat and have your two 1st level ritual spells written down and fully understood. Off the top of my head I can't remember if there's any guidance as to how much downtime this might take, but a minimum of four weeks seems reasonable to me.
Part of me wishes this feat was just the book of shadows the warlock gets, where you can copy ANY ritual into it. But maybe at an EXTRA 50 gold per level
I 100% agree! Personally I find the book of shadows to be a little underwhelming.
How many times can you can the spells in this ritual book ??
As many times as you want!
You're dedication is admirable
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One question that now arose in me with the new artificer is that spell updated on that i personally would allow artificer for it if he is a fullcaster (dont really know if he is one).
I think technically they're a half caster!
I was like, who can simplify this feat for me so I can decide if I want it or not? Then I searched for this video
(Playing a Firbolg Druid and I found like three eligible wizard spells, and I was already thinking of getting the feat lol)
Haha I'm glad I could help you out!
I love Intelligence for Wiz-dom too.
Whit this feat you can learn
Wizard: phantom steed, tiny hut, floating disk, divination
Priest: ceremony, commune, fobiddance.
Good summary. Agreed on Pals finding this very useful and on Find Familiar. Watch out for the Arcana check for copying from scrolls, though. A as a quick note Tomelocks get RC on steroids via Book of Ancient Secrets. They can just poach rituals from every class and I've even heard of a Tomelock Shillelagh combo since the BoAS makes Cha the Shillelagh "hitting" stat. And you can select it at third level asap if you pick druid for your first rituals.
Very great points! Also interesting combo idea! I've actually already done the videos on the Eldritch Invocations and I personally thing Book of Ancient Secrets is a little overpowered haha! I really appreciate the comment though, I'll have to pin it!
How does the arcana check work?
I feel much safer now that the wave length has broken, also... That's a lot of text...
So basically, if your super rich, hire someone to make a magic scroll that can be cast as ritual, copy it into book, and then sell scroll... You have just effectively added spell to you spell list, and possibly removed the representative cost of the Ink and materials. Maybe use it to buy a new scroll and repeat. Basically 'free' spells added to your known spell list as long as you never loose your ritual book or find a way to bind it to you so it CAN'T be lost/destroyed
Haha I'm happy to hear! I also like your idea, I could see it working into one of my games!
Lets say, for example: You took the Criminal background, and you use your Criminal Contact to acquire and resell spell scrolls for a profit. Until one day your Criminal Contact stops responding, and you hear a rumor that they've been captured by the local Arcane Guild! They've caught wind of you cutting in on their market, and have decided to take matters into their own hands...
I think it would be pretty fun haha!
The last DM I played with liked to mix and match additions. One of his rules was that you actually had to find a familiar before you were able to cast find familiar. I was a Monklock and I was able to get my hands on a lemure fresh out of Avernus. Before they that I got a hell fire obsidian dagger and a set of soulstones. Long story a little less long I was able to harvest enough soul nrg to raise me my very own Imp. She was so greatful that she used native magic that we later learned in order to basically turn my flesh into a spellbook via the ritual caster feat.I love how Sean would do stuff like that to make all of our characters feel truly unique.
its probably kinda complicated to have 2 different kinds of spellcasting stats so probably better to pick cleric if you take that up as a druid and so on
Good point! Although I think it would depend on how you intend to use the Feat. Most Ritual spells are utility, and don't actually have a need for a DC
@@ChancesSpellbook some update i told my dm i wanna use it for my druid and as she uses a home rule that it must fit the character she told me she figured a way out to let me gain access to that divination spells, also makes sense for my druid to get cleric spells as she is an acolyte. P.S. Divination is my favorite school of magic and I hope it will help in the dire quest of my druid!
Hi! I have a question. I'm on my very first character, she is a barbarian (path of the beast) but she comes from a scholarly upbringing and is an archivist. I want to take either ritual caster or magic initiate as a feat for this and was wondering which one you think would be better for this character?
3-4 mins Copying Spells; "the spell's level is equal or less than HALF your level rounded up".
Haha correct!
Where is part 2
"How do you get this ritual tag thing? First it says I learn spells that can be cast as rituals, then it says the spell needs to have a ritual tag. How do I get that and use it?" Misaka Misaka asks super confused while considering giving up trying to learn this game.
Pretty sure ritual tag just means the spell is marked internally as being able to cast as a ritual. I don't think its an actual obtainable item. And just a personal opinion, The game seams hard to understand, but just focus on a bit at a time, you'll get there. I may be still new and learning but Trying to understand everything all at once is what made me unable to grasp it my first time I tried. You'll get there.
PS: Nice Last Order profile picture. Super Cute!
@@Blossoming_Fate is 100% correct! The Ritual tag is labeled in the spell description. I've been working on a Playlist to go into all of the Ritual spells, sadly it probably won't be done for a while.
In any case, if you're new to the game I'd recommend staying away from the Casters, at least until you've seen someone play one.
I kind of feel like ritual casting should be treated as a language, but then I'm in favor of high magic campaigns. what's the difference between warlock rituals and Python?
are Bard rituals really just FL studio?
Chance: You made an error at about 3:47 in this video, you forgot to say the word "half".
You made an error at 2:03, you said "wisdom" instead of "wizard". Lol
Considering picking up this feat as my starting feat for my human eldrich knight.
Turai12 it’s such a solid choice for almost every class! An eldritch knight would make a ton of sense as well!
@@ChancesSpellbook human variant sorlock, magic initiaite, ritual caster, meta magic adept (tashe's), this is gonna be fun. i'm also considering trying to replace 1 of them with warcaster since it's so good.
Question: does this stack with spells learned with Magic Initiate? And can the spells be changed upon a long rest?
Obviously if the Magic Initiate spell has a Rirtual Tag you can cast it both ways. You can't change the spell for M. I. and you dont need to for ritual caster bc. you add more spells to your book without losing the first 2.
How would this work for a ranger? Think most Rituals spells are shared with druid
I'm using it on a V. Human Ranger, but I chose Wizard. They have really good ritual spells, more common to find their books for new spells, and I specifically wanted Find Familiar.
Where is the second part?
2:08 - It's just becuase the descirption was so big it needed two pages
I'm the only spell caster in the current campaign so expending spell lists that do not require spell slot was actually quite good merit.