Rough Rider 1750 Old Southwest Canoe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- The Old Southwest is a new series by Rough Rider. Currently the only knife available is the RR1750 Canoe. I take a look at it as well as other similar Rough Rider Canoes that have that old Southwest feel to them.
Canoes are so pretty. 🤘🤩
They has a great symmetry and fit the pocket quite well. The cut away also adds to the ability to put a wider blade in a slimmer than expected handle. They are pretty cool!
I just bought this knife, because of your review
I have the Stockman Old Southwest. Love it. This Old Southwest Canoe is definitely the best looking one. I have the Patriot series canoe and I think it looks elegant and awesome. But this Old West Canoe really looks fantastic. I am a fan of Stockmans but this canoe is making me consider ordering it. I agree that a pratical everyday knife should not have etched artwork on the blade but oh well. Great video.
The problem with the Old SouthWest series is the black enamel is not bonded to the metal covers very well and is not going to stand up to pocket carry, even if it is pocket carried in a slip! But it does look good!
I just picked up a Rough Rider "Old Southwest" canoe, and I must say that for my first canoe and sub $25 knife, I'm amazed at the quality and heft of this knife. This is a user, not a safe queen, and definately has a feel of usability and pocket art about it. Had to travel from Niagara Falls to Texas to find one on a shelf (we by passed SMKW) and this canoe will make a perfect vacation remembrance. I particularly like the swedge and match strike pulls on both blades...actually very classy.
I do not see were case knifes any thing much on a rough rider knife .I think they or over price .
Too cool that you have the others and this one, that is some really good work as a whole
Canoe fan here and I do carry them. I have many but this Old Southwest one is and feels unique. Maybe it's the all steel construction and the half-stops. Thank you for doing this video as it inspired me to go ahead and buy it (a few months ago but just got back around to add a comment). I fell for the canoe knife (by Buck) as an outdoor guide back in the 70's & 80's because when folded in the pocket the tang ends don't catch on and cut your pockets, sheaths, or slips when you try to extract it. Anyone who likes canoes I think will love this Old Southwest canoe pattern knife.
Last year I picked up one of my personal grails with a GEC #16 Canoe pattern made back in 2012, she's a beaut. You don't here about them as much.
BTW Abalone is usually a multi-colored affair picked from the shell in layers but MOP (mother of pearl) is usually a more ubiquitous layer on the abalone shell.
BD H :- I just got my own " Old Southwest " and love it. But what I really found amazing is that you hit every single point of my appreciation of this little knife. Maybe you should do your own TH-cam channel, seeing as how well you described this particular knife. Great comment!
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 Thank you for the kind words. With the knives I have on hand and how much I like them (some are unique enough to not even have a presence on you tube yet are available), I could write the script for a short presentation on a bunch of them but alas I just don't have the ambition to start a new hobby/interest. Between family, travels, canoeing shooting, skiing, camping, and knife collecting I'm spent...in every way. lol
@@bdh3949 :- Yup, I got it, as much the same applies to me as well. I have been asked once why I don't do a video presentation on knives, but I really don't have the opportunity, the camera, or even the know-how, but sometimes I wonder if some of my experiences camping, knife collecting, and practical bushcraft...will be lost on my death (I'm 70, and think about such things).
Thank God that there are some knowledgeable knife collectors (like Tobias) that take the time & effort to produce great videos for us.
@@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 Yeah, I'm a septuagenarian too. I've spent a lifetime doing such things and I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to share all of it with lot's of interested folks so I can relate to your thoughts. I enjoy all of these knife guys on you tube too, it's a real community with lots of vicarious interactions and friendships not to mention what I've learned about knives from them in recent years. Tobias is one of the best.
@@bdh3949 :- Have a good day, sir!
Beautiful knives! 😍 And I just love the sound of "the snap" 😱
Thankyou,very informative and unbiased.
I've never had a canoe and I've put the Old Southwest one on a retailers' wish list. I does look great. I do wish Rough Rider made a "beer" canoes as well as the two bladed ones.
cool collection :) I love the canoe
40belowful, thanks. I too love canoes. Since shooting this video, I’ve come across a couple more in turquoise that I guess I’ll need to pick up. LOL. Thanks for watching.
A beautiful collection ! I like the stoneworks one. I've always wondered what a small knife with red coral would look like. This is the only one I have seen that comes close to the idea. Great video ! 😊
Well...back to the hunt...
Red Coral would be pretty cool!
Great review [as usual ! ]. I have never been attracted to Canoe patterns, but sure hope they come out with some other patterns. A large Stockman would be nice. Gave ya a "Thumbs Up"!
Love it, and the sowbelly, both available here in UK, will pick them up soon.
Let me warn you the black enamel portion rubs off a little too easy in my opinion. But they do look nice.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Got my eye on a few knives, love the swayback design, the sowbellys and of course the canoes. I love the idea of a mammoth tooth knife, the Congress, but can't find one, not even a picture of one or price.
Tobias they just came out with the new southwest line!!!!!! I just picked up the Sowbelly I couldn’t help it they said it hasn’t been done before
Ah Hah! Now I know what you have coming in. 😂 Yeah, I watch older Tobias reviews also.😅
@@WilliamsKnifeLife no fair that was sneaky lol hahaha
Great review and comparison. I have noticed RR is really upping their quality and designs. You should check out the Tabacco Bone series with the copper inserts. I picked one up late last year and love it. It's model RR1895.
Red jasper was very attractive
Just ordered a RR canoe myself.
Said Diamond Jim on the box. Comes with a small boot as a slip i think 😀
GhostNeck, cool. I’m pretty sure the Diamond Jim is one of their older Canoes so it may not have the half stop. Still, it should be an excellent knife for the price.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Yeah. You were right. No halfstop. But a pretty knife.
Nice👍👍🤠🤠🎯🎯
Way cool !
I just realized that we started our channels within 2 weeks of each other…lol. I guess 2011 was a good year to start a TH-cam channel…lol
You are amassing quite the nice collection of Canoe pattern knives and it looks as if RR has produced quite a few gems! Based on my limited research of the Canoe, it is quite popular now. I can't seem to find any "canoe" examples prior to the 1960's. Is it a relatively recent (last 50 years) Case developed pattern? Thanks again!
JJ Cahill, now you’ve got me thinking. I really don’t know how old the pattern is or where it came from. I’ll need to do more research. I do know some traditional patterns really aren’t as old as some might think. Thanks for watching and thanks for your insights in the pattern!
From my perusal of old catalog .pdf files and online sales, the oldest canoe pattern I have seen bears the CASE XX (1940-64) tang stamp. The pattern seems to have really caught on in the 1980's with mostly German manufacturers along with Case. Now they really are ubiquitous with Case and RR having the most variety. Excellent pattern! :)
From what I've been reading it appears to have come about in the early 20th century. Several sources say pre-World War One, with one or two source saying 1915. It also sounds like the Gunboat (a larger frame canoe style knife set up like a Stockman) was probably the first with the current 2 blade 3 5/8 inch version showing up shortly afterwards. The knife was supposedly first made by either Case Brothers or Union Cutlery (later to be known as KaBar) . Soon afterwards W.R. Case & Son began making the Canoe. It is very possible that W.R. Case & Son made the first canoe as we know it today sometime in the 1920s, however Case Brothers and Union also claim to have been making them along side the Gunboat.
However, one thing is correct, neither pattern caught on very well and pre-WWII versions are very scarce. Apparently the knives went in and out of the their catalogs. After WWII, Case began offering the Canoe, exclusively in stag and it slowly established a foothold among users. By the Union was KaBar and no longer offered a Gunboat or Canoe and Case Brothers had been bought by W. R. Case & Sons. This may explain why you occasionally see Gunboats offered by Case these days.
I guess in some ways the canoe is the little knife that just didn't give up and finally established a small but loyal following.
Thank you for your enlightening research! The Canoe is certainly a tenacious pattern that finally excelled. I'm glad Case kept the pattern going for so long as it's quite an excellent one! Thanks again!
Keep showing canoes lol I might buy more
Steve H, thanks. I’ve still got a few I haven’t shown! It’s really a nice pattern.
What’s funny I started looking at some knives from WR Case and I actually looked at the canoe
Tobias, have you any idea how old the Cherokee Feather series is? And was it expensive? Thanks!
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Real beauties, but how in the world do they make them. Those knives are a tonne of work
It does seem intricate. I’m hoping other will come out. But as you said they look very time consuming for the price you pay.
Tobias, those are some beautiful canoes! Just curious, what is it about the canoe pattern that captivates you?
Nice equal end pattern. The upturn blade provide a good grip and cover the blade spine when folded. It’s a nice size for the pocket and it like spear blades. They are just a good blade shape for most daily chores.
Can you still buy that knife.
The Old Southwest is still available at SMKW, so probably elsewhere as well. I will warn you that it seems there were production issues with the knife. It seems the snap on the small blade is very weak and the enamel is prone to chipping. Most of the other canoes are long out of production and hard to find.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thank you .
Did I see the pen blade hang up when you closed it? Ugh!
gemstateguy, yeah, the action on the pen blade was a tad sluggish, out of the box. Ive oiled it and opened and closed it a couple dozen times and now it is performing much better. Not the first time I’ve experienced sluggish blades on a new knife.
the box looks a bit like malachite
I know blade etching is kind of traditional but it kinda kills it for me...
I know where you’re coming from. Once you start using the knife for any length of time the etch will be ruined. So what’s the point. It seems there are better place to adorn decoration than the working surface. This is especially true of ornate blade etches. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on blade etches.
Such a shame they didn’t make a second run
These knives are kinda cool I guess. I love USA made knives and own quite a few,....and everytime i pick up a made in China RR at my SMKW knife outlet,....I'm floored at how cheaply made they are. The fit and finish is absolutely atrocious. The materials are beyond cheap. They blatantlylie about "nickel silver" bolsters. They are terrible bang for buck. You'd be way better off saving up your money and buying a knife you can hand down to the next generation in your family and that will last with great craftsmanship. Like a Case XXX, or a nice Barlow. Just my opinion,....and you know what they say about opinions.