Good news, at 2:11 where it states that the website is outdated, this has now been updated since editing, with the most recent hit occurring on September 5
As a coach driver, we were told on the first day of our job to stay the fuck away from Montague Street and always use Todd road offramp to get on the WGB. It's the self-employed small truck drivers with their rental trucks that are the worst offenders.
Exactly. There are plenty of warning signs from both approaches telling that the bridge clearance is only 3 metres. There is an alternative route at the nearby Ingles Street level crossing where vehicles can cross over safely to the other side of the light rail tracks without damaging their excessively high vehicle or the bridge's foundations. There are signs pointing towards this alternative crossing.
use the same "water curtain" as in Sydney harbour tunnel? When overheight sensor tripped it switches on and literally punches huge sign STOP right in drivers face, but safe way, without anything heavier than water jets. Even the dumbest driver, yesterday from bull cart, will pay attention and stop.
Hopefully but I guess we wont know for sure unless its actually installed at montague. To be honest its probably the last thing that we can try without having to move the ground or bridge
THere's a channel named LASERVISION that talks about this thing. But what if the entrance has to be dimly lit all the time? To keep it perceptible to drivers even in bright sunlight?
@@wanderingfido humans do not react to static pictures, even if they are bright. Only change in view can attract attention of average dummy, its the reason why signs do not work even if you install 100 of them. Only good punch is able to distract the driver from his happy thoughtlessness and cause active action required to stop.
Just like the 11 foot 8 inch bridge in Durham, NC USA, they said they couldn't raise the bridge. It just couldn't be done. Too expensive, too much trouble. Then the railroad decided to raise the bridge on their own by 8 inches. Not to stop trucks from hitting it, but to level out the tracks so they could increase train speed. The process was relatively simple. They raised the bridge in 2 days. The road and the rail line where shut down for one weekend. The results were a dramatic decrease in crashes, but it didn't completely solve the problem. Some taller tracks still hit the bridge.
No bridge will ever destroy a vehicle. There are drivers who get into obstacles with their vehicles, be it narrow sections of road or low bridges. Bridges are as innocent as muddy fields where vehicles get stuck. It is always the driver who misjudges a situation.
thats what I was thinking but then drivers would probably just speed up to try get trough the yellow light thats already been tried at the can opener bridge
@@raypitts4880 Yeah, a red traffic light didn't help 11-6 either. When the truck drivers see the yellow light, instead of stopping they accelerate though it and hit the bridge anyway. Because of course we all know that a yellow light means go very fast. 🤦♂ You just can't help some people.
Simple answer would be to ban trucks from that section of Montague Road with some clear "no trucks" signage (and direct trucks to use some other route that doesn't have obstacles in the way)
Yeah true but theres already 26 warning signs with the three metre height clearance and if those are not working I doubt a no truck sign would help as there are just to many stupid drivers
@@BeastsTransport There are people who will see the "height clearance" signs and not realize that it applies to them because they don't know their vehicle's height but who would absolutely realize that a "no trucks" sign applies to them.
From an engineering standpoint, it is not clear that reducing the grade of the road is out of the question. All over the world, there are reduced-grade underpasses for railroads, whose flooding is controlled via the use of stormwater pumps capable of removing more water than has been recorded to fall in that area. Ergo, a solution does exist, but apparently no one wants to pay for it - which probably reflects the fact that neither the city nor the light rail incurs any significant cost when the bridge is impacted by these vehicles.
The problem with the reduced grade is far more than you imagine. They had one under the rail bridge over spencer st ( since demolished) and the one that remains. LONG vehicles. The clearance under the bridge is between the road and bridge. But a long load is supported at each end where the road is higher. The scenario goes that the cab and front part fits under the bridge because it is within height limits. Now the front rises up and the load wedges under the bridge in the middle. To fix it means that the lowering must extend for a few hundred metres so that it is level near the bridge. This cuts off access to all the properties near this. And raising the bridge isn't a viable option either. Height limits on trucks continue to be raised without the infrastructure state wide being altered to match the new height limits. So this problem will continue to be CREATED anew. In countless other bridges and underpasses that work with CURRENT height limits.
As the road cannot be lowered due to flooding, they will one day raise the bridge, its been done before I bet somewhere in Australia, as for the cost & travel inconvenience, just think about all the level crossing removals that have been carried out in Melbourne over the last ten years, it can be done.
It’s even a part of the route that VicRoads uses for their offical heavy vehicle driving license tests so the drivers have to make the decision to pass under the bridge or turn off depending on their hight as a part of the test! :)
@@BeastsTransport Apparently that’s what I’ve heard of which does make sense as testing the ability of heavy vehicle drivers to avoid low hight clearance obstacles like low bridges should be a key part of any heavy vehicle practical driving test! :)
The vehicle height and a warning about low bridges should be displayed inside rental trucks, similar to rental cars having reminders to drive on the left
Definitely needs a camera and channel so we can all watch them hit it, preferably also one showing them hitting the warning bollards to. I believe the Southbank tram depot does have a camera pointed at the north side of the bridge that captures southbound collisions, however its not public
At just 7 seconds you can see the chain height detection in the background. I have a series of photos taken of one truck. The truck drove to the wrong side of the road to get around the chains, proceeded forward and hit the bridge. The truck KNEW it was overheight which is why it avoided the chains. Why imagine that then it could fit under the bridge. There is an even worse one on park st. But because it is a lesser used road the problem isn't as severe. Drivers who ignore height restrictions cost billions of dollars in repairs. They could NEVER pay the damage done. Not even the industry as a whole could afford to pay for the costs of the repairs. It isn't the fault of the bridges though.
Is that truck that went around a blue box truck where the driver of the car stops next to the truck and calls him an idiot? If I am thinking of the same clip, its on scotts car cameras somewhere
This seems to be a typical council fix. They all seem to think that signs fix everything when in fact they fix very little. If signs worked we wouldn't need police would we? If it is a major road it needs a major fix. I'm sure that a little inconvenience of the tram routes, or a lower patch in the road that occasionally floods is a small price to pay for something that, once done it is done for good. You wouldn't have to lower the whole area, just 50m or so of the road surface. Water is much softer than a bridge, and it should be fixed before a solid truck hits it hard while a tram is passing over.
Likely that a truck has it with a tram passing over. To be honest I reckon even with a lowered road there will always be someone who manages to hit it no matter what. There should probably be a tougher penalty such as instant on the spot license loss for a year
@@BeastsTransport not much point fining someone after the accident. That wont bring any-ones grandma back from the dead. You can lessen the chance of something happening, but you can never idiot proof the world.,
Good news, at 2:11 where it states that the website is outdated, this has now been updated since editing, with the most recent hit occurring on September 5
Any driver that doesn't know the height of their vehicle should have their license taken off them
.
Agreed
Do you know the height of your car? No.
in NSW they revoke not drivers licence but truck rego. Works very effective.
It's not the bridges fault, it's just that peoples stupidity knows no bounds !
Indeed and you would think after so many incidents people would learn but no
As a coach driver, we were told on the first day of our job to stay the fuck away from Montague Street and always use Todd road offramp to get on the WGB. It's the self-employed small truck drivers with their rental trucks that are the worst offenders.
Exactly. There are plenty of warning signs from both approaches telling that the bridge clearance is only 3 metres. There is an alternative route at the nearby Ingles Street level crossing where vehicles can cross over safely to the other side of the light rail tracks without damaging their excessively high vehicle or the bridge's foundations. There are signs pointing towards this alternative crossing.
The bridge doesn’t destroy trucks!! OK! Stupid people driving the trucks that hit the bridge is what destroys the trucks. Completely preventable.
It's usually Pajjeets that hit it
And his old mate Raj.
Ha Ha. Spot on!
Great stuff Australia’s answer to Merica’s 11’8”+4 can opener 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😂🤣😂
It's actually 11'8"+8 but that hasn't stopped them trying. 😉
And 3 meters is only 9′10″... quite a bit less than The Can Opener.
@@jovetj it still would be fun to watch though.
use the same "water curtain" as in Sydney harbour tunnel? When overheight sensor tripped it switches on and literally punches huge sign STOP right in drivers face, but safe way, without anything heavier than water jets. Even the dumbest driver, yesterday from bull cart, will pay attention and stop.
Hopefully but I guess we wont know for sure unless its actually installed at montague. To be honest its probably the last thing that we can try without having to move the ground or bridge
THere's a channel named LASERVISION that talks about this thing. But what if the entrance has to be dimly lit all the time? To keep it perceptible to drivers even in bright sunlight?
@@wanderingfido humans do not react to static pictures, even if they are bright. Only change in view can attract attention of average dummy, its the reason why signs do not work even if you install 100 of them. Only good punch is able to distract the driver from his happy thoughtlessness and cause active action required to stop.
so you're telling me they can prevent Venice from flooding but not fix a bridge
australian government for ya
Just like the 11 foot 8 inch bridge in Durham, NC USA, they said they couldn't raise the bridge. It just couldn't be done. Too expensive, too much trouble. Then the railroad decided to raise the bridge on their own by 8 inches. Not to stop trucks from hitting it, but to level out the tracks so they could increase train speed. The process was relatively simple. They raised the bridge in 2 days. The road and the rail line where shut down for one weekend. The results were a dramatic decrease in crashes, but it didn't completely solve the problem. Some taller tracks still hit the bridge.
No bridge will ever destroy a vehicle.
There are drivers who get into obstacles with their vehicles, be it narrow sections of road or low bridges.
Bridges are as innocent as muddy fields where vehicles get stuck. It is always the driver who misjudges a situation.
Montague Street Bridge and 11'8" bridge should get together and have a baby.
York Street 😂
It's 12'4" bridge.
They need to put in a traffic light that goes red when the warning gantries are triggered.
thats what I was thinking but then drivers would probably just speed up to try get trough the yellow light thats already been tried at the can opener bridge
@@BeastsTransport Just have to ensure that there's sufficient distance between the gantry and the traffic light.
They need to simply ban trucks😂
what adout
11-6 com
in usa same problem
they raise the tracks put in slimmer bridge
still happens
@@raypitts4880 Yeah, a red traffic light didn't help 11-6 either. When the truck drivers see the yellow light, instead of stopping they accelerate though it and hit the bridge anyway. Because of course we all know that a yellow light means go very fast. 🤦♂ You just can't help some people.
Lowering road again could be done with modern drainage pump systems.
Simple answer would be to ban trucks from that section of Montague Road with some clear "no trucks" signage (and direct trucks to use some other route that doesn't have obstacles in the way)
Yeah true but theres already 26 warning signs with the three metre height clearance and if those are not working I doubt a no truck sign would help as there are just to many stupid drivers
@@BeastsTransport There are people who will see the "height clearance" signs and not realize that it applies to them because they don't know their vehicle's height but who would absolutely realize that a "no trucks" sign applies to them.
@@jfwfreo Im sure theres always gonna be the occasional rental driver that forgets that they are driving a truck
something's a bit off with your voice 🤔 is that from a surgery or something? it's a bit distracting
Reminds me of the “Squeaky-Voiced Teen” on The Simpsons.
And the clicking sound while he was talking was infuriating.
From an engineering standpoint, it is not clear that reducing the grade of the road is out of the question. All over the world, there are reduced-grade underpasses for railroads, whose flooding is controlled via the use of stormwater pumps capable of removing more water than has been recorded to fall in that area. Ergo, a solution does exist, but apparently no one wants to pay for it - which probably reflects the fact that neither the city nor the light rail incurs any significant cost when the bridge is impacted by these vehicles.
The problem with the reduced grade is far more than you imagine. They had one under the rail bridge over spencer st ( since demolished) and the one that remains. LONG vehicles. The clearance under the bridge is between the road and bridge. But a long load is supported at each end where the road is higher. The scenario goes that the cab and front part fits under the bridge because it is within height limits. Now the front rises up and the load wedges under the bridge in the middle. To fix it means that the lowering must extend for a few hundred metres so that it is level near the bridge. This cuts off access to all the properties near this. And raising the bridge isn't a viable option either. Height limits on trucks continue to be raised without the infrastructure state wide being altered to match the new height limits. So this problem will continue to be CREATED anew. In countless other bridges and underpasses that work with CURRENT height limits.
Trying the get Australian governments to do something that's logical is ridiculous.
As the road cannot be lowered due to flooding, they will one day raise the bridge, its been done before I bet somewhere in Australia, as for the cost & travel inconvenience, just think about all the level crossing removals that have been carried out in Melbourne over the last ten years, it can be done.
It’s even a part of the route that VicRoads uses for their offical heavy vehicle driving license tests so the drivers have to make the decision to pass under the bridge or turn off depending on their hight as a part of the test! :)
So thats in a practical driving test? I knew the written test question was a myth
@@BeastsTransport
Apparently that’s what I’ve heard of which does make sense as testing the ability of heavy vehicle drivers to avoid low hight clearance obstacles like low bridges should be a key part of any heavy vehicle practical driving test! :)
I bet the drivers blindly follow google maps.
I am pretty sure some use that as their excuse for hitting it. Probably something like 'google maps said to go this way'
The vehicle height and a warning about low bridges should be displayed inside rental trucks, similar to rental cars having reminders to drive on the left
there should be a camera to record the incidents like its counterpart in the USA
Definitely needs a camera and channel so we can all watch them hit it, preferably also one showing them hitting the warning bollards to. I believe the Southbank tram depot does have a camera pointed at the north side of the bridge that captures southbound collisions, however its not public
It is not the bridge destroying trucks. It is drivers that do not read signs.
Put in as many signs as you want there will never be enough because it seems that most truck drivers are stupid lol
I've hired trucks on occasion and they've all told me that damage to the "pan" isn't covered by insurance. All the more reason to be careful.
At this point I think every rental truck thats over three metres tall needs a piece of paper on the dash stating to not drive on montague street
At just 7 seconds you can see the chain height detection in the background. I have a series of photos taken of one truck. The truck drove to the wrong side of the road to get around the chains, proceeded forward and hit the bridge. The truck KNEW it was overheight which is why it avoided the chains. Why imagine that then it could fit under the bridge. There is an even worse one on park st. But because it is a lesser used road the problem isn't as severe. Drivers who ignore height restrictions cost billions of dollars in repairs. They could NEVER pay the damage done. Not even the industry as a whole could afford to pay for the costs of the repairs. It isn't the fault of the bridges though.
Is that truck that went around a blue box truck where the driver of the car stops next to the truck and calls him an idiot? If I am thinking of the same clip, its on scotts car cameras somewhere
Because the drivers are incompetent!
Newsflash: Drivers are incompetent. Film at 11.
Meff mouth?
Could you lower the road and implement proper drainage (like in tropical countries) to stop flooding
Even if clearance was 4m high it would still get hit 😂
Yeah if Napier Street is being hit at four metres absolutely no doubt it wouldnt make a difference at Montague Street
Is English your second language?
11'8'' in metric.
Yeah its essentially the Australian version of that
3.556 in Metric you mean. 3.556 metres.
9′10″ in imperial, you mean.
Why do they not just ban any truck?
I can't imagine operators with trucks low enough to go under would be happy about that. In any case, how would you enforce it?
@@rogermouton2273 Well yeah I do t know
Can’t the road be a bit deeper ?
Albo's love child?
Krusty Burger teen
This seems to be a typical council fix. They all seem to think that signs fix everything when in fact they fix very little. If signs worked we wouldn't need police would we? If it is a major road it needs a major fix. I'm sure that a little inconvenience of the tram routes, or a lower patch in the road that occasionally floods is a small price to pay for something that, once done it is done for good. You wouldn't have to lower the whole area, just 50m or so of the road surface. Water is much softer than a bridge, and it should be fixed before a solid truck hits it hard while a tram is passing over.
Likely that a truck has it with a tram passing over. To be honest I reckon even with a lowered road there will always be someone who manages to hit it no matter what. There should probably be a tougher penalty such as instant on the spot license loss for a year
@@BeastsTransport not much point fining someone after the accident. That wont bring any-ones grandma back from the dead. You can lessen the chance of something happening, but you can never idiot proof the world.,
Boring, boring.
Make a under pass for the road if that doesn't work then make a tram underpass