Whoever made this game was clearly an Electric Engineer. You can just feel the hatred they had working for the city. Just the snide remarks and low opinion of politicians. And I am not even 4 minutes in and this game has more personality than SimCity.
@@SylviaRustyFae Electrical, Civil and Mechanical engineering are the only core engineering branches. Perhaps Chemical Engineering counts too. Everything else can't be considered as actual engineering, especially incompetent software engineers.
@@Sm00thieK I’d double check your history there. Civil Engineering is the oldest branch of engineering, everything either diverged from it or Military Engineering. Plus in my totally unbiased opinion it should be first on the list as nothing could exist without civil infrastructure and is so special that legislature has been passed to stop other wannabes from trying their hand at its hardest aspects. Everyone else MIGHT get there FE and PE… structural engineers have to go a step further and get their SE as well!
@@Sm00thieK in the beginning there were military engineers and civil engineers. “Mechanical engineers” are just glorified wagon fixers, “chemical engineers” are just glorified alchemists, and “electrical engineers” are glorified inventors who fly kites in storms hahaha
I'm a Matt that's an electrical engineer, the electrical version of Infra. Once on a field check, I sat down on what I thought was a storage box, turned out to be capacitors to offset a very big motor. If I shifted my butt 3 cm to the left, I would have sat on an exposed lead and exploded so can confirm, electrical engineering does involve more explosions than is probably healthy for me.
Electrical engineers also prefer dropping things in from orbit. It helps to bypass all of the architects and the few civil engineers (RCE) who doubt our worth
I think that this example is closer to architecture than engineering, but it is engineering nonetheless. There are like a hundred other fields of electrical engineering though, that are more closer to engineering. Source: I m also an electrical engineer, and agree that a lot of it is definitely magic
As someone going for their major in EE, I hope whoever questioned whether electrical engineering is actually engineering will live without the power grid, wireless communications and radar. And come on, we're no supposed to tell the population about the black magic involved in our line of work!
I am an electrician installing your engineered designs... and I’m gonna scream at the next guy who makes me pull 400’ of 0000. Parallels are an option, I’d rather do the conduit work when there is a perfectly good conduit rack already there. I run parallels in oil/ gas fields because usually “customer” supplied parts are not correct. But they have a lot of it. I find it strange at the time when wire was cheap, they’d rather spend a dime to save a penny.
@@RhombicoGames that must be a LOT of infrastructure you have in orbit... just hope no rogue micro-meteors puncture your precious arrays of batteries and transformers.
As an actual electrical engineer I recommend building your generators and batteries separated from each other. Mainly to avoid overload on your TL (and losses as well, but I'm not sure if this game takes that into consideration).
When windmills turn off, their placement will at least overload cables they're connected with and after one explosion on their route towns will die in darkness
Our molten salt facility was a constant headache: it needed backup (diesel/propane) generation to keep the batteries hot, worked correctly maybe half the time, and caught fire four times in about a decade. Fortunately, the last fire was sufficiently catastrophic that the facility is no longer a problem. The toxic gas cloud was mostly contained to the building, and nobody in the nearby town died. I don't think anyone has an idea what to do with all the toxic waste... the current plan probably involves some caution tape, a padlock, and confidence that someone in the distant future will figure it out.
"the plan involves some caution tape, a padlock, and confidence that someone in the distant future will figure it out" I wonder why that's fine for chemical waste of the highest grade, but uuuuu, nuclear waste is "dangerous".....
@@monad_tcp I don't know if I would call this "highest grade." Nuclear waste would be way worse, not just because of radiation, but because of heavy metals leaching into the groundwater. @Roger S Nuclear plants have all sorts of non-obvious environmental costs even if there is never a meltdown. You have to kill a river to dispose of the waste heat. Mining the fuel is extremely destructive and generates its own toxic waste. The plant's waste is not just the spent fuel, but also many other parts of the facility, including the coolant and radioactive gases/particulates that escape during operation.
@@glenm99 And building a solar panel isn’t “clean” either. So does building a Tesla and batteries. Both aren’t “clean”. You need oil to LUBRICATE the bearings of the wind so they can actually spin. Everything isn’t clean. Clean natural energy isn’t “clean” one bit.
How the power grid functions will always be beyond my understanding. I mean i know how it dose in theory but how the f*** dose one manage something thats connected everywhere, needs to produce power at the same time its needed, has multiple power plants that all need to work in unison despite being massivly complicated themselves and one mistake can snowball into huge chunks of the system going offline due to damage. Electrical engineers really are magicians.
As a power engineer, I'm proud of all the intuition you quickly formed regarding parallel lines for thermal loading, voltage support, etc, and I was taking a shot every time I saw a simplification for the sake of games. I need a lie down now.
No they aren't, it is one of the best engineering branches even from the 50s. It isn't popular with the new gen because it also happens to be one of the, if not the hardest engineering branches around.
@@Sm00thieK It isn't popular with the current generation because IT pays way better. I'm working as an electrical engineer, as a designer for low and medium voltage power lines, a job that *requires* a master's degree and at least 3 years of experience, and even entry level jobs for a person with some IT degree pay twice as much as my job.
@@BrokenLifeCycle Architects are just really terrible designers who think of themselves as engineers, something that couldn't be any further from the truth even if it tried hard.
That's actually a cool game! I would really like to see more of it on your channel! Also, a quite interesting infrastructure engineering is in Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic. In this game you also need to cope with electricity (high voltage, low voltage, substations), but also with heating pipes, as well as water and sewage (in upcoming update). That might be a challenge for you!
I recommend engineering with redundancy of transmission lines and substations in mind and playing with the load overlay turned on. In the company info screen activate the topmost option (conservative) for the best balancing. Route cables inside the city along expected street lines early, before the City develops
As a Mechanical engineer (building services), I can confirm electrical engineers are not real engineers, its all wizardry and putting squiggly lines on drawings.
Electrical engineer here. Thanks for showing this game! But energy doesn't run.... It flows. And remember to always put a plug in the socket so the electrofluidum stays inside!
As a highschool student that is currently taking a computer technology class I agree (if I pass the class I would get a computer technician certification btw)
I am an engineer, and this game is a dream come true. People stay mad some time after restoring power. The molten salt facility can output 40MW, so you supplied enough. A simple look at the stats would have shown this. I usually love (love!) your content, but watching you play this makes me want to revoke your engineering degree. 😂😭😅
Did you know electrical engineers have to prepare for things like solar storms so the entire grid doesn't go down when the sun decides to have a bad day and throw out a giant cloud of charged particles?
Back in the days of telegraphs they would cross the two wires over occasionally when running them from pole to pole. Before they started doing this, solar storms could generate some serious high voltage at the ends. The crossing over part works, because a "normal" section will generate one voltage, while the "crossed over" section will generate a reverse voltage and they cancel out. This trick is still used today: if you have ever cut open some internet cables and found pairs of twisted wires, this is also done to protect them from electromagnetic interference.
Ever heard of Space station 13? On the BYOND engine which is probably older than most people here and based off of internet explorer, don’t expect a lag free experience It has an engineer job to build and repair the space station, and maintain and run the power generation It also has a very robust atmospherics system with multiple gases and pipes, allowing for dumb stuff like preforming nuclear fusion in the vents *honk*
@@nova_supreme8390 photonics use mirrors, and is growing into larger sectors of the field. For instance there's mems micromirror arrays used in dlp projectors (literally microscopic mirrors the size of pixels that are tilted with electric charge).
Instantly got this game half way through this video. Been playing all night on the same map as you. This game gets so stressful when you've got 5 towns and an average MW draw of 250+. My networks are holding up but only just, I had an event that made me recharge my storage and it caused my main transfer lines from east to west to blow up repeatedly. I'm glad I had many redundant lines so while one was being repaired another could hold the power then itself explode lol
I recommend the following strategies: • In cities, build lines in a grid pattern, then extend them beyond the city limits. This will keep future connections open. The last thing you want to happen is being unable to route power due to how the city develops in a way the prevents that. • Consider Biomass Plant. Cheap operating cost, small NIMBY radius, and reasonable maintenance and ramp up time. • Substations can be used for high and low-voltage lines to cross paths. • First city tends to be the most power hungry of the entire map. Try to build one substation at each side. • In company info, change profile to conservative. This will reduce chances of overloading.
"Yeah, my bad. I was too focused on making money." Basically everything wrong with the world today. Well accept for the part where the people in charge admit that they're responsible.
Oh man, I need to get me this game! And no, electrical engineers are not engineers, they are monks that chant Ohm~ Some suggestions if I may, firstly, the capacity of any component, should be double the total demand, and at the same time, redundancy is key (at least 2 substations or transmission lines). Also, arrange the transmission lines in a ring so 2 leave the power plant and connect to the city, so if 1 line goes down, the other still provides power, and because you always ensure it operates at half capacity, it should handle the power delivery while you do the repairs. Lastly, I get that renewables are important, but diesel and gas generators are reliable. So diversify, maybe 30 to 70 ratio of fossil fuel to renewable power generation, it's cheaper and can supplement when problems happen (like the wind turbine problem).
I work for the water treatment plant in my city (one of the largest non ocean effluent plants in the US), the engineer talk between the 2 character's is very much like it is between shifts at the water plant, when the different engineers go back and forth. Its wild cause we have Grade 4 technicians (highest level technician, can run any treatment plant in North America), water resource and mechanical engineers from 2 different companies (one is more on the ground in the plant and the other is more on the computer side of it), and structural and mechanical from 1 construction company on site, they are on site on 1st and half of 2nd shift. The arguments they get in to and passive aggressive changes they do to each other are crazy.
im studying electronic engineering final year and we work closely with them I can attest that they are real engineers working with dangerous stuff in comparrison with me 😂
Engineers don't do work, they sit in an office. The actual work is done by the following: Electrical - Electricians Mechanical - Mechanics / Machinists Chemical - Chemists Civil - Civilians...anyone can dig in dirt Structural - Builders, because there's always someone that has to be a contrarian and deviate from the norm - in this case, standardized naming conventions. To be fair, engineers occasionally have to do math, so I'd rather just stick with the manual labor, personally.
There should be option that highlights the power lines from green, yellow, orange, and red to make it easier to see when the lines are being overloaded like when evening comes and people are back from work you can see what lines are being overloaded if like to many homes want power on that 1 line lol
theres a bunch more like purchasing between grids, load balancing, frequency, what phases and levels of KV youre transmitting and to which customers, how to deal with distributed generation, etc
Hah! I'm a distribution designer - I work with the baby 4kV to 35kV networks. Which is not a sentence you ever expect to read, but transmission starts at 100kV and goes up from there. Usually it's boring, but sometimes you wind up having to replace the power lines climbing a mountain, and you're pretty much making everything up as you go along. Maximum span lengths? What are those? Standard framing? More like a suggestion. Lots of fun when the budget is "yes" (Did you know utility poles can be set by helicopter? Now you do!).
All Engineers (mechanical , electrical , civil ) are real . They are the best in their jobs . Only pain in the ass of every engineer alike are the bloody architects .
My dad used to be an electrical engineer until he got so much knowledge that they had to upgrade him to prototype engineer he went from fixing computers to engineering things like steam cannons variable liquid flow channels better wind mills and making his own computers
Fun fact, the best way to deal with the mess of pylons RFE had by the end is to localize power. Smaller energy production zones per city, which means you dont have to worry as much about power capacity. If you want, you can always connect them after to allow a sort of load balancing between cities.
Man I loved this episode, especially when you started butchering the danish city names like that :D "J's" are soft in the danish language. If you want to pronounce Vejle a bit like a dane, you'd have to pronounce it like "Wayle"...ish. some of our E's and A's are weird especially for people who speak english :P Great episode, you made me buy the game ! :D
I’ll buy this game as soon as they sponsor you (Update) I couldn’t wait that long for a sponsor vid so I went ahead and bought it and had a blast I was a lineman for a year so I was super intrigued by the game I told the devs in their discord they should support you it would mean a lot
@@Disarray91 I just hope there is a scene with the "helper" where they pop up random and yell "Zzzzzzt" you know, to get that real electrical service work experience!
You should take a look at your grid and try to determine the bisection number, i. e. how many lines at minimum do you need to cut until your network is split in two separate parts? In a good network, the number is greater than 3, in an okay network, the number is 2, in a bad network, the number is 1. When the power line to you molten salt farms melts, you have a bisection event - that's going to cause you some trouble. Love the game though, such a great mixture of realism and gameplay mechanics, cartoonish and simplified rules, yet complex enough at its core.
Software engineers unite! Just waiting to see Matt do a video trying to build new features on top of legacy code so he can proclaim that we are, in fact, engineers.
Here’s a simple tip: Connect the power to the storage. Connect the storage to the substation. In my save, depending on where the next city will spawn, I can power 3 cities using 1 storage.
the 'ej' in Vejle and Mejeriby is pronounced 'eye'. 'Mejeriby' basically means Dairy Ville, as in there's a dairy factory in this city. I don't know about Bodholt though, I think the area that is now Bording used to be called Bodholt. Definitely pronounced with a soft 'd', so good luck with that. Other than that it was cool how the game had actual facts about Denmark with hygge, wind-turbines and limited restaurant-visits.
@@micbicteeth2355 ok, så alt andet lige har du mere kendskab til Vejle end jeg har? Har du et bedre bud på hvad Bodholt skulle forestille at være? Er der et sted der hedder sådan eller er det bare noget der lyder som en dansk landsby?
The age old question. I would be tempted to say no, but we're reliant on them to control the black magic that is any electrical circuit other than a battery with few resistors, so we must reluctantly acceed to their accreditation as engineers. -An Aerospace Engineer
In a realistical setting, wouldnt it be smarter to put (smaller) storage at substations (if you have the space), rather than on huge facility in the middle of nowhere?
Sort of. The thing with traditional energy production (and storage) planning is that it is always most cost effective at scale, and condensing the footprint into a single location (just making the entire thing larger) is cheaper than having 2 smaller production/storage areas for the same total capacity. Modern grid design is focusing much more on "local" systems like I think you're suggesting, as this decentralizes the production/storage aspects more than traditional designs, making general/local grid management more precise, and allows for other benefits associated with having smaller clusters, like more flexibility in sources (like adding in new nodes) while also offering a more robust grid (built-in redundancies). The problem is generally the NIMBY issue the game actually calls out. Everyone wants more of X, but no one wants it in their "back yard", making space procurement more difficult.
@@Haladmer Yeah, hence "if you have the space". Substations have their own NIMBY problem, so I guess it's the same pair of shoes? Idk how much maintenance these storages need but I guess there is some benefit having them directly at another facility?
@@cmilkau There are entire schools of thought on grid design, so it's a bit much to dive into here, but I actually was agreeing with your "if you have space", because it is a good idea and practice! You might be interested in 'Bartlett's Bisection Theorem' if you've not been exposed to it before! From the looks of the game so far, I'm willing to bet this is actually the solution approach the devs are aiming lol In the real world, power storage locations can also depend based on factors like the waste products and potential environmental impacts in operational or even worst-case scenarios (looking at you molten salt batteries), which also limits locations where these solutions can be deployed. Which leads to the level of maintenance. Just like anything else, it can vary on a whole host of things (access to the location, general weather/environment, equipment selected or in use/etc.) so again, it's just a balancing act of what best meets the needs, and what you can get the locality to approve lol
You know what? The first time I met this channel, I thought that it was just a guy playing random boring engineering type games. Luckily, engineering is a very good topic for games to be built on. Best of all, an engineer plays them! I'm glad I found this channel.
I seem to remember from a documentary about power storage that the most costly time for power is after eastenders as everyone in the whole of the uk puts the kettle on for a cup of tea at the same time.
What we never see in any electrical related experience is the real issue of backcurrent. Electrical grids don't just work by putting as much power as possible. They require fine tunning to lower the output of sources of power or the grid blows.
As im a guy from denmark i have to call out RCE for saying vejle wrong because the 'J' has to be silent but its better just translating it so ''vejle = roadlaugh'' and mejeriby again 'J' has to be kinda silent aswell plus it translates mejeriby into 'Dairy Town' but bodholt city you nailed that name pretty well but this time the 'D' has to be silent so do you see where im kinda going with this ,well alot of danish citynames is having lots of silent letters in them. But full respect that you are using windpower as most of denmark is covered in windpower. RCE keep up this exsellent work mate.
You had one generation grid trying to feed to three different areas. Should have had separate generation for each area, with each area having separate lines feeding to central battery storage, with lines for each area for discharge. This way each can operate separately but be interlinked to support each other.
Certainly interesting the amount of details going through it. Never thought that doing electricity for a town can be made into a game. Working with architects can be rather annoying. I am a cast stone drafter. I engineer the stone on buildings. They give me plans with bad to no info and say they needed it done yesterday.
Its ironic you got Vejle since it’s pronounced almost like the danish word for road 🇩🇰🤣 Note: I’m not sure the too extra city’s are real places but vejle is an actual city located in Denmark 🇩🇰 😂 And he even used the right form of power windmills 🥰🥳
My husband is an electrical engineer 😂 (offshore high voltage). He’s also in the fire team there. There were 2 explosions in a year, caused by mechanical engineers doing work without communicating to the electrical team (so they didn’t know to isolate sections).
Wouldn't it be wiser to put a few more things in parallel rather than in sequence? The stored power can follow just 1 route and can only provide as much as 1 storage unit can put out. It leads to overload in some cases, as seen in this vid, but you also run a risk of not being able to meet demand despite having a lot of power stored.
Whoever made this game was clearly an Electric Engineer. You can just feel the hatred they had working for the city. Just the snide remarks and low opinion of politicians. And I am not even 4 minutes in and this game has more personality than SimCity.
There is a lot of puns and Easter eggs in the game. The devs have offices in Vejle, Denmark, which is why that level is in the game
i think it has more personality than most sim games
I'm impressed that the man built this game.
Indeed.
As an electrical engineer, I concur.
I find this question interesting because us mechanical engineers always said that civil engineering wasn't real.
Ha ha
Wait until you find out about MARITIME ENGINEERING!
The Audacity of this guy. 😤
Mechanical Engineers design weapons; Civil Engineers design targets...
lmao what are you doing here kan i watch you and rcce whos next scrap man xD
Thank you so much for covering our game! We were thrilled when we saw you uploaded this video! 🤩
grats!
Back once again for the renegade master!
@@tigrecito48I can’t believe this went unnoticed. Bravo!
@@BattousaiHBrcongrats*
I watched the video and immediately bought the game on Steam. It's fun and easy to get into!
Meanwhile in a mechanical engineering office: "Are civil engineers actually engineers? Or just glorified architects? " :D
Meanwhile at NASA: "Everyone knows all nonspace engineers are just glorified architects"
@@SylviaRustyFae Electrical, Civil and Mechanical engineering are the only core engineering branches. Perhaps Chemical Engineering counts too. Everything else can't be considered as actual engineering, especially incompetent software engineers.
@@Sm00thieK I’d double check your history there. Civil Engineering is the oldest branch of engineering, everything either diverged from it or Military Engineering. Plus in my totally unbiased opinion it should be first on the list as nothing could exist without civil infrastructure and is so special that legislature has been passed to stop other wannabes from trying their hand at its hardest aspects. Everyone else MIGHT get there FE and PE… structural engineers have to go a step further and get their SE as well!
@@Sm00thieK in the beginning there were military engineers and civil engineers. “Mechanical engineers” are just glorified wagon fixers, “chemical engineers” are just glorified alchemists, and “electrical engineers” are glorified inventors who fly kites in storms hahaha
Its glorified architecture
I'm a Matt that's an electrical engineer, the electrical version of Infra. Once on a field check, I sat down on what I thought was a storage box, turned out to be capacitors to offset a very big motor. If I shifted my butt 3 cm to the left, I would have sat on an exposed lead and exploded so can confirm, electrical engineering does involve more explosions than is probably healthy for me.
Regardless of the branch of engineering, butt explosions are not generally desired.
XD GEZ talk about a close call.
Oops
My stroke had a brain
Electrical engineers also prefer dropping things in from orbit. It helps to bypass all of the architects and the few civil engineers (RCE) who doubt our worth
Shots fired
As an electron, energy keep ascending me to higher orbit :(
Currently im at n=3 l=2 m=0 s=1/2
@@falcon9ft710 I’m too dumb to understand the joke but I recognize humor when I see it. 😂🤙
@@falcon9ft710 this is a bit müch för enginerrs. They mostly use the Bohr model.
But nice d-orbital-energy
@@dinmagol9874 Bohrs model is fraud
As a Master in Electrical Engineering, we are the engineers of engineers, even magicians, engineering with magic so that the world can run seamlessly.
I think that this example is closer to architecture than engineering, but it is engineering nonetheless. There are like a hundred other fields of electrical engineering though, that are more closer to engineering. Source: I m also an electrical engineer, and agree that a lot of it is definitely magic
Humanity: how do electrical transformers work?
Electrical engineers: haha voltage go brr
electricity is the blood of the modern world!
As someone going for their major in EE, I hope whoever questioned whether electrical engineering is actually engineering will live without the power grid, wireless communications and radar. And come on, we're no supposed to tell the population about the black magic involved in our line of work!
I am an electrician installing your engineered designs... and I’m gonna scream at the next guy who makes me pull 400’ of 0000.
Parallels are an option, I’d rather do the conduit work when there is a perfectly good conduit rack already there.
I run parallels in oil/ gas fields because usually “customer” supplied parts are not correct. But they have a lot of it.
I find it strange at the time when wire was cheap, they’d rather spend a dime to save a penny.
2:15 Every electrical engineer worth his salt knows the most efficient method of delivering infrastructure is through orbital drop.
Maybe it's because we have been playing too much KSP before developing Power to the People! 🤪
@@RhombicoGames that must be a LOT of infrastructure you have in orbit... just hope no rogue micro-meteors puncture your precious arrays of batteries and transformers.
"Being an Electrical Engineer is easy!" Ten seconds later, the world falls apart. I laughed so hard. Hahahaha
As an actual electrical engineer I recommend building your generators and batteries separated from each other. Mainly to avoid overload on your TL (and losses as well, but I'm not sure if this game takes that into consideration).
When windmills turn off, their placement will at least overload cables they're connected with and after one explosion on their route towns will die in darkness
Transmission losses are modelled
@@Mpkki redundant cable runs are advisable in any case
As someone who lives in denmark, i can confirm the devs did their research on the buffs
I Can also confirm that
The devs live in Vejle, Denmark. Which is why the little town is in the game.
Yeah I thought just when he said it that it is so right. Jeg er dansk
man said "
vegle"
@@jamesworkman9087 dansk i en nøddeskal/ Danish in a
nutshell
Our molten salt facility was a constant headache: it needed backup (diesel/propane) generation to keep the batteries hot, worked correctly maybe half the time, and caught fire four times in about a decade. Fortunately, the last fire was sufficiently catastrophic that the facility is no longer a problem. The toxic gas cloud was mostly contained to the building, and nobody in the nearby town died. I don't think anyone has an idea what to do with all the toxic waste... the current plan probably involves some caution tape, a padlock, and confidence that someone in the distant future will figure it out.
"the plan involves some caution tape, a padlock, and confidence that someone in the distant future will figure it out" I wonder why that's fine for chemical waste of the highest grade, but uuuuu, nuclear waste is "dangerous".....
@@monad_tcp because people think that a nuclear plant is like a nuclear bomb.
@@rogers4760 the word is pronounced nukular!
@@monad_tcp I don't know if I would call this "highest grade." Nuclear waste would be way worse, not just because of radiation, but because of heavy metals leaching into the groundwater.
@Roger S Nuclear plants have all sorts of non-obvious environmental costs even if there is never a meltdown. You have to kill a river to dispose of the waste heat. Mining the fuel is extremely destructive and generates its own toxic waste. The plant's waste is not just the spent fuel, but also many other parts of the facility, including the coolant and radioactive gases/particulates that escape during operation.
@@glenm99
And building a solar panel isn’t “clean” either.
So does building a Tesla and batteries.
Both aren’t “clean”.
You need oil to LUBRICATE the bearings of the wind so they can actually spin.
Everything isn’t clean. Clean natural energy isn’t “clean” one bit.
"Screw the maintenance.." Having had to service mainline electrical systems, I can confirm, this is 100% accurate!
No. They're not engineers.
They're magicians
A Mechanical Engineer
Or Wizards
they make all your money disappear
How the power grid functions will always be beyond my understanding. I mean i know how it dose in theory but how the f*** dose one manage something thats connected everywhere, needs to produce power at the same time its needed, has multiple power plants that all need to work in unison despite being massivly complicated themselves and one mistake can snowball into huge chunks of the system going offline due to damage. Electrical engineers really are magicians.
Pixie Wranglers
As someone part way through electronics engineering I just fucking laughed my ass off.
As a power engineer, I'm proud of all the intuition you quickly formed regarding parallel lines for thermal loading, voltage support, etc, and I was taking a shot every time I saw a simplification for the sake of games. I need a lie down now.
I believe that electrical engineers are underrated tbh
I second that!
No they aren't, it is one of the best engineering branches even from the 50s. It isn't popular with the new gen because it also happens to be one of the, if not the hardest engineering branches around.
@@Sm00thieK It isn't popular with the current generation because IT pays way better. I'm working as an electrical engineer, as a designer for low and medium voltage power lines, a job that *requires* a master's degree and at least 3 years of experience, and even entry level jobs for a person with some IT degree pay twice as much as my job.
@@kolosmenus Nah entry level electrical engg actually pays better than most IT jobs, atleast where I live in.
@@kolosmenus I am an Electrical engineer too, but I earn more than my CS friends from my uni.
Electrical Engineers are not Architects, that’s all that matters
Architects are engineers that failed at math.
@@BrokenLifeCycle Architects are just really terrible designers who think of themselves as engineers, something that couldn't be any further from the truth even if it tried hard.
That's actually a cool game! I would really like to see more of it on your channel!
Also, a quite interesting infrastructure engineering is in Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic. In this game you also need to cope with electricity (high voltage, low voltage, substations), but also with heating pipes, as well as water and sewage (in upcoming update). That might be a challenge for you!
Got accepted into my college of choice for a bachelors in electrical engineering recently
As a fellow college applicant, good job, I wish you luck!
Just about to finish mine, good luck and study well :D
Godspeed. Brace yourself for the mathematical mental torture that awaits.
I recommend engineering with redundancy of transmission lines and substations in mind and playing with the load overlay turned on. In the company info screen activate the topmost option (conservative) for the best balancing. Route cables inside the city along expected street lines early, before the City develops
As a Mechanical engineer (building services), I can confirm electrical engineers are not real engineers, its all wizardry and putting squiggly lines on drawings.
Electrical engineer here. Thanks for showing this game! But energy doesn't run.... It flows. And remember to always put a plug in the socket so the electrofluidum stays inside!
Electrical (and electronics) engineering is the sorcery of getting magic smoke to do stuff, but if you ever release the magic smoke bad things happen.
yes
As a highschool student that is currently taking a computer technology class I agree (if I pass the class I would get a computer technician certification btw)
If the people are okay with being without power for an hour with no consequence, It becomes about turning power off regularly for an hour.
I am an engineer, and this game is a dream come true.
People stay mad some time after restoring power. The molten salt facility can output 40MW, so you supplied enough. A simple look at the stats would have shown this.
I usually love (love!) your content, but watching you play this makes me want to revoke your engineering degree. 😂😭😅
youtuber and playing so bad you wanna punch them over the internet
It could have put out 40MW, for a little while... the storage was limited. That is why he built so many.
Please make more content on this game, it’s incredibly fun to watch
Did you know electrical engineers have to prepare for things like solar storms so the entire grid doesn't go down when the sun decides to have a bad day and throw out a giant cloud of charged particles?
Back in the days of telegraphs they would cross the two wires over occasionally when running them from pole to pole. Before they started doing this, solar storms could generate some serious high voltage at the ends. The crossing over part works, because a "normal" section will generate one voltage, while the "crossed over" section will generate a reverse voltage and they cancel out. This trick is still used today: if you have ever cut open some internet cables and found pairs of twisted wires, this is also done to protect them from electromagnetic interference.
That's part of the challenge in one of the maps: Cairo.
Ever heard of Space station 13?
On the BYOND engine which is probably older than most people here and based off of internet explorer, don’t expect a lag free experience
It has an engineer job to build and repair the space station, and maintain and run the power generation
It also has a very robust atmospherics system with multiple gases and pipes, allowing for dumb stuff like preforming nuclear fusion in the vents
*honk*
Electrical engineers are actually magicians: everything they build runs on smoke.
Then they are merely half-magicians as they only use smoke but not mirrors.
@@nova_supreme8390 I think solar farms use mirrors
Steam turbines and water wheels. We are stuck in the 1800s.
@@nova_supreme8390 photonics use mirrors, and is growing into larger sectors of the field. For instance there's mems micromirror arrays used in dlp projectors (literally microscopic mirrors the size of pixels that are tilted with electric charge).
@@mejhdhhicbfshihids652 Those are concentrated solar plants. There are photovoltaic plants too, which uses the solar panels most are familiar with.
Instantly got this game half way through this video. Been playing all night on the same map as you. This game gets so stressful when you've got 5 towns and an average MW draw of 250+. My networks are holding up but only just, I had an event that made me recharge my storage and it caused my main transfer lines from east to west to blow up repeatedly. I'm glad I had many redundant lines so while one was being repaired another could hold the power then itself explode lol
I recommend the following strategies:
• In cities, build lines in a grid pattern, then extend them beyond the city limits. This will keep future connections open. The last thing you want to happen is being unable to route power due to how the city develops in a way the prevents that.
• Consider Biomass Plant. Cheap operating cost, small NIMBY radius, and reasonable maintenance and ramp up time.
• Substations can be used for high and low-voltage lines to cross paths.
• First city tends to be the most power hungry of the entire map. Try to build one substation at each side.
• In company info, change profile to conservative. This will reduce chances of overloading.
this game is dope, more pls! how do you find all these little indie city builder games?
"Yeah, my bad. I was too focused on making money."
Basically everything wrong with the world today. Well accept for the part where the people in charge admit that they're responsible.
Oh man, I need to get me this game! And no, electrical engineers are not engineers, they are monks that chant Ohm~
Some suggestions if I may, firstly, the capacity of any component, should be double the total demand, and at the same time, redundancy is key (at least 2 substations or transmission lines).
Also, arrange the transmission lines in a ring so 2 leave the power plant and connect to the city, so if 1 line goes down, the other still provides power, and because you always ensure it operates at half capacity, it should handle the power delivery while you do the repairs.
Lastly, I get that renewables are important, but diesel and gas generators are reliable. So diversify, maybe 30 to 70 ratio of fossil fuel to renewable power generation, it's cheaper and can supplement when problems happen (like the wind turbine problem).
I work for the water treatment plant in my city (one of the largest non ocean effluent plants in the US), the engineer talk between the 2 character's is very much like it is between shifts at the water plant, when the different engineers go back and forth. Its wild cause we have Grade 4 technicians (highest level technician, can run any treatment plant in North America), water resource and mechanical engineers from 2 different companies (one is more on the ground in the plant and the other is more on the computer side of it), and structural and mechanical from 1 construction company on site, they are on site on 1st and half of 2nd shift. The arguments they get in to and passive aggressive changes they do to each other are crazy.
I can see myself watching a whole RCE series on this game.
This was so fun to watch! Would love more videos on Power to the People!
I come from a family of electrical engineers and plan on being one myself so to answer the title… HELL YEAH
I don’t know if that was an excited hell yeah or a threatening he’ll yeah
@@miscellaneous2160 excited lol
@@king_blitz6479 May which ever deity you choose have mercy on your soul... for the consumer will have none!
(Good luck in your studies!)
@@Haladmer thank you very much
"we have to make sure we don't miss the city being built, amateur mistake really" had me rolling
im studying electronic engineering final year and we work closely with them I can attest that they are real engineers working with dangerous stuff in comparrison with me 😂
ooo and our engineering test week is starting monday 🙃 sad boyy noises
@@mollimm9223 good luck with ur test 👌
Engineers don't do work, they sit in an office.
The actual work is done by the following:
Electrical - Electricians
Mechanical - Mechanics / Machinists
Chemical - Chemists
Civil - Civilians...anyone can dig in dirt
Structural - Builders, because there's always someone that has to be a contrarian and deviate from the norm - in this case, standardized naming conventions.
To be fair, engineers occasionally have to do math, so I'd rather just stick with the manual labor, personally.
I don't know, I hear that poisoned sand can be pretty dangerous too
@@Shin_Lona you must be an architect because you have no clue what engineers do
There should be option that highlights the power lines from green, yellow, orange, and red to make it easier to see when the lines are being overloaded like when evening comes and people are back from work you can see what lines are being overloaded if like to many homes want power on that 1 line lol
Finally some TRUE engineering, and not the quasi-achitecturing you usually call engineering.
lol
theres a bunch more like purchasing between grids, load balancing, frequency, what phases and levels of KV youre transmitting and to which customers, how to deal with distributed generation, etc
Now i'm curious:
Are Software Engineers actually engineers?
They don't like the architects of the game aka the designers
@@epicthief you're 100% correct!
Absolutely no
what about sound engineers?
@@John_Ass Atleast they deal with actual physics and things that have a direct impact that we can sense. So yes, sound engineers are real engineers.
this seems like a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to more of it, if you are playing it more, couldn't find a playlist.
I love the personalities of the helpers. Reminds me of classic SimCity games. There's an awesome new generation of simulation games out there today!
Hah! I'm a distribution designer - I work with the baby 4kV to 35kV networks. Which is not a sentence you ever expect to read, but transmission starts at 100kV and goes up from there.
Usually it's boring, but sometimes you wind up having to replace the power lines climbing a mountain, and you're pretty much making everything up as you go along. Maximum span lengths? What are those? Standard framing? More like a suggestion. Lots of fun when the budget is "yes" (Did you know utility poles can be set by helicopter? Now you do!).
Considering the messy yet efficient grid of electricity that usually supplies cities, yes they’re engineers
Hey, it's not our fault some silly architect and/or city planner put a building in our way! :D
Electrical Engineer here. I love how he is coming to electrical engineering from the most Civil Engineering perspective.
EEs work on such a broad range of things, the power grid is only one of them.
All Engineers (mechanical , electrical , civil ) are real . They are the best in their jobs . Only pain in the ass of every engineer alike are the bloody architects .
well for us mechanical engineers it's the industrial designers but same deal really :)
For chemical engineers it’s the chemists they have no clue how to work at scale.
Amen
My dad used to be an electrical engineer until he got so much knowledge that they had to upgrade him to prototype engineer he went from fixing computers to engineering things like steam cannons variable liquid flow channels better wind mills and making his own computers
Matt always manages to make me really wanna play all these games, but I know I'd never have as much fun playing them as watching him ^^
I was kind of expecting Matt to close the game after learning that he was going to be an architect.
Aaaaand I bought it and spent like 6 hours straight on it 😂
Damn your RCE for indirectly stealing my weekend time!
Fun fact, the best way to deal with the mess of pylons RFE had by the end is to localize power. Smaller energy production zones per city, which means you dont have to worry as much about power capacity. If you want, you can always connect them after to allow a sort of load balancing between cities.
Man I loved this episode, especially when you started butchering the danish city names like that :D "J's" are soft in the danish language. If you want to pronounce Vejle a bit like a dane, you'd have to pronounce it like "Wayle"...ish. some of our E's and A's are weird especially for people who speak english :P Great episode, you made me buy the game ! :D
I'd love to see more of this. Very different take on engineering and solving issues.
I love how in this video RCe is also giving us real world engineering knowledge!😄
_Electroboom's aura intensifies as Mehdi menacingly stands behind RCE_
And I never thought that I'd see the day that Matt would play as an architect.
From the layout of your grid by the end, I think we can say that you lived up to your title of Power Architect.
Such a good new series for the RCE
My wife is studying to be an environmental engineeer. I love your videos and she watches them when I do. Any environmental engineer games?
Save The Earth Planet ECO Inc. in Google Play?
please play this again! I love it!
I’ll buy this game as soon as they sponsor you
(Update) I couldn’t wait that long for a sponsor vid so I went ahead and bought it and had a blast I was a lineman for a year so I was super intrigued by the game I told the devs in their discord they should support you it would mean a lot
Engineers are the best!! I’ve always wanted to become an engineer later down in life.
Great playthrough Matt, Excited to see more!
More of this game, please! As an electrician myself, this game is pretty accurate 😂 albeit with fewer electrical fires... 🤔
You mean fewer electrical fires in game or in real life xD
@@sewi014 I will not clarify this 🤣
@@Disarray91 I just hope there is a scene with the "helper" where they pop up random and yell "Zzzzzzt" you know, to get that real electrical service work experience!
You should take a look at your grid and try to determine the bisection number, i. e. how many lines at minimum do you need to cut until your network is split in two separate parts? In a good network, the number is greater than 3, in an okay network, the number is 2, in a bad network, the number is 1. When the power line to you molten salt farms melts, you have a bisection event - that's going to cause you some trouble.
Love the game though, such a great mixture of realism and gameplay mechanics, cartoonish and simplified rules, yet complex enough at its core.
Especially in later stages. If done improperly, explosions everywhere.
To know if electrical engineers are real engineers, you must ask this question: Would you need a tutorial on how to be an architect?
Should totally do a mini series of this game! Love it.
I'm a software engineer.... And I think that we are just a myth
i'm also a software engineer. i feel like a plumber.
Software engineers unite! Just waiting to see Matt do a video trying to build new features on top of legacy code so he can proclaim that we are, in fact, engineers.
@@michaelgorman9752 My thinking exactly. You come and see my day job then ask if we're engineers or not!
Here’s a simple tip:
Connect the power to the storage.
Connect the storage to the substation.
In my save, depending on where the next city will spawn, I can power 3 cities using 1 storage.
If you're lucky those three sharing one substation too.
the 'ej' in Vejle and Mejeriby is pronounced 'eye'. 'Mejeriby' basically means Dairy Ville, as in there's a dairy factory in this city. I don't know about Bodholt though, I think the area that is now Bording used to be called Bodholt. Definitely pronounced with a soft 'd', so good luck with that.
Other than that it was cool how the game had actual facts about Denmark with hygge, wind-turbines and limited restaurant-visits.
Are you from Denmark couse if so me to
@@micbicteeth2355 yep, hvor er du fra?
jeg er fra Holstebro-egnen i Vestjylland.
@@JunesGo jeg er fra Horsens-egnen
@@micbicteeth2355 ok, så alt andet lige har du mere kendskab til Vejle end jeg har?
Har du et bedre bud på hvad Bodholt skulle forestille at være?
Er der et sted der hedder sådan eller er det bare noget der lyder som en dansk landsby?
@@JunesGo egentlig ikke men man kunne prøve og google det
The trick to this game is to get cities surrounded by substations early on before they grow too big
And not concentrate baseload power plants on one location.
The age old question. I would be tempted to say no, but we're reliant on them to control the black magic that is any electrical circuit other than a battery with few resistors, so we must reluctantly acceed to their accreditation as engineers.
-An Aerospace Engineer
In a realistical setting, wouldnt it be smarter to put (smaller) storage at substations (if you have the space), rather than on huge facility in the middle of nowhere?
Sort of.
The thing with traditional energy production (and storage) planning is that it is always most cost effective at scale, and condensing the footprint into a single location (just making the entire thing larger) is cheaper than having 2 smaller production/storage areas for the same total capacity.
Modern grid design is focusing much more on "local" systems like I think you're suggesting, as this decentralizes the production/storage aspects more than traditional designs, making general/local grid management more precise, and allows for other benefits associated with having smaller clusters, like more flexibility in sources (like adding in new nodes) while also offering a more robust grid (built-in redundancies). The problem is generally the NIMBY issue the game actually calls out.
Everyone wants more of X, but no one wants it in their "back yard", making space procurement more difficult.
@@Haladmer Yeah, hence "if you have the space". Substations have their own NIMBY problem, so I guess it's the same pair of shoes? Idk how much maintenance these storages need but I guess there is some benefit having them directly at another facility?
@@cmilkau There are entire schools of thought on grid design, so it's a bit much to dive into here, but I actually was agreeing with your "if you have space", because it is a good idea and practice!
You might be interested in 'Bartlett's Bisection Theorem' if you've not been exposed to it before! From the looks of the game so far, I'm willing to bet this is actually the solution approach the devs are aiming lol
In the real world, power storage locations can also depend based on factors like the waste products and potential environmental impacts in operational or even worst-case scenarios (looking at you molten salt batteries), which also limits locations where these solutions can be deployed.
Which leads to the level of maintenance. Just like anything else, it can vary on a whole host of things (access to the location, general weather/environment, equipment selected or in use/etc.) so again, it's just a balancing act of what best meets the needs, and what you can get the locality to approve lol
As a fellow Civil Engineer, I've always felt that EEs deserved the title "Wizard" or "Witch" instead of "Engineer".
You know what? The first time I met this channel, I thought that it was just a guy playing random boring engineering type games. Luckily, engineering is a very good topic for games to be built on. Best of all, an engineer plays them! I'm glad I found this channel.
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I seem to remember from a documentary about power storage that the most costly time for power is after eastenders as everyone in the whole of the uk puts the kettle on for a cup of tea at the same time.
What we never see in any electrical related experience is the real issue of backcurrent.
Electrical grids don't just work by putting as much power as possible. They require fine tunning to lower the output of sources of power or the grid blows.
2:14 shout out to whatever dev decided to have a "building falls comically fast from the sky" animation. :P
If you play more of this I'd recommend diversifying the types of energy generation you have.
Even the advanced tutorial recommends that.
I just realized that I feel the same way about software architects that you feel about regular architects. I'm a software engineer.
As im a guy from denmark i have to call out RCE for saying vejle wrong because the 'J' has to be silent but its better just translating it so ''vejle = roadlaugh'' and mejeriby again 'J' has to be kinda silent aswell plus it translates mejeriby into 'Dairy Town' but bodholt city you nailed that name pretty well but this time the 'D' has to be silent so do you see where im kinda going with this ,well alot of danish citynames is having lots of silent letters in them.
But full respect that you are using windpower as most of denmark is covered in windpower. RCE keep up this exsellent work mate.
I recently switched from ElectricalEngineering to Civil/Industrial Engineering so this immediately peaked my interest lol.
You had one generation grid trying to feed to three different areas. Should have had separate generation for each area, with each area having separate lines feeding to central battery storage, with lines for each area for discharge. This way each can operate separately but be interlinked to support each other.
Certainly interesting the amount of details going through it. Never thought that doing electricity for a town can be made into a game. Working with architects can be rather annoying. I am a cast stone drafter. I engineer the stone on buildings. They give me plans with bad to no info and say they needed it done yesterday.
And some plans make you wonder how that is even remotely possible. Cantilever structures are engineers' most hated designs.
really enjoyed this and would love to see more of it
Ok, I'm a year late - but I am shocked that Matt never noticed the "strongest shape" in the demo @ 0:33 and the close up at 0:58 for good measure LOL
Its ironic you got Vejle since it’s pronounced almost like the danish word for road 🇩🇰🤣
Note: I’m not sure the too extra city’s are real places but vejle is an actual city located in Denmark 🇩🇰 😂
And he even used the right form of power windmills 🥰🥳
As an electrical engineer, I saw the video name and immediately had to click it.
My husband is an electrical engineer 😂 (offshore high voltage). He’s also in the fire team there. There were 2 explosions in a year, caused by mechanical engineers doing work without communicating to the electrical team (so they didn’t know to isolate sections).
Wouldn't it be wiser to put a few more things in parallel rather than in sequence? The stored power can follow just 1 route and can only provide as much as 1 storage unit can put out. It leads to overload in some cases, as seen in this vid, but you also run a risk of not being able to meet demand despite having a lot of power stored.
Not necessarily parallel. More like spread out of the map. Large maps can have as many as seven cities.
Are network engineers really engineers? I've never touched an engine in my job, but they call me an engineer nonetheless.
*WW3 starts in the world*
Me: AHHHHH THOSE DAMN ARCHITECTS!!!!!!!
As an electrical engineer in training, I can say I do like puns, so this is definitely the job for me lol
this game TOTALLY has Cities Skylines game engine copied over..... TOO similar, yet blocky like Minecraft, makes me wonder.
Would love to see a series out of this game!
Is there a second video? Would love to see more of this.