MOUTHPIECE COMPARISON: Theo Wanne Earth, Dukoff, Meyer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- I bought a new mouthpiece, then went back through my collection to compare it to a few others. Have a listen, lemme know what you think...
7:09 - Metal Dukoff - KC Blues
7:38 - Meyer - KC Blues
8:08 - Theo Wanne Earth - KC Blues
8:37 - Plastic Dukoff - KC Blues
9:06 - Metal Dukoff - Smoke...Eyes
9:36 - Meyer - Smoke...Eyes
10:06 - Theo Wanne Earth - Smoke...Eyes
10:36 - Plastic Dukoff - Smoke...Eyes
11:07 - Metal Dukoff - That's All Right
11:32 - Meyer - That's All Right
11:55 - Theo Wanne Earth - That's All Right
12:19 - Plastic Dukoff - That's All Right
12:43 - Conclusion
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This video is the best comparison which makes me can identify the sound very clearly between different mouthpieces, thank you.
My pleasure!
Fun to listen for the differences in the sound... as a sax beginner this also reminds me to blame the mouthpiece when I squeak, thanks!
Hahahaha yes absolutely! "It's not my fault, it's the reeeeeed!"
I absolutely agree! Second the Meyer, first place Theo Wanne. I’m playing the Durga on my Tenor ;-) even I’m still beginner…started two years ago.
Good choice! I'll be watching to see what else Theo Wanne comes out with in the years ahead.
Hi Chris
Thank you for the mouthpiece run through. So insightful. I would like to know about scale practice, and a run through the altissimo.
Many thanks
Guillaume
Spend more time with your metal Dukoff. There’s a lot of potential there in your sound. You also don’t necessarily have to use a lighter reed on it-since it’s a D5, you can probably get away with using a 3. I play a metal Dukoff D9 on Tenor (I know) and I’ve noticed that it’s really picky with reeds in terms of strength and placement. They take a lot of patience and getting used to (long tones) but I feel the sound is worth the effort. Great video and thank you for the comparison :)
Cheers, thanks for watching!
Yeah the metal Dukoff does have potential but I don't think I've got the required patience. I give it half an hour every year or two and it just confirms its place in the too-hard basket. Darkening it with a harder reed just makes everything more effort than it's worth, when the super-easy Wanne is just sitting there...
Thanks for putting this up ☺️
Thank you very much for such a complete explanation. I'm now looking for a new mouthpiece and your opinions help me a lot.
It also would be great to know your opinions about the selection of reeds in relation to the open tip of the mouthpieces. THANK YOU!! And congratulations for the video. It's great.
You're very welcome! Apologies for late reply.
Regarding reeds, generally speaking thinner = brighter, but also more prone to squeaking and intonation issues. I prefer Vandoren ZZ or Java as they're generally easily available at most shops / online, and I play 2.5. But reeds are a hugely personal thing so it;s worth getting a handful of different brands & sizes and finding what works best for you. Good luck!
Normally I'm not that good with hearing the distinction between mouthpieces, but your demonstration was quite clear.
I've got a SYOS mpc (which is wonderful), but really always wanted a Theo Wanne Durga. Good to hear you rate the Theo Wanne mpc very highly. This pushes me a little closer to maybe buying one of these ridiculously expensive mpcs one day.
Suggestion: Why don't you play a R&R song on the tenor one day ;-)
Try the Elements series - a lot more affordable and still amazing pieces. I'm excited to play sax again now, haven't felt that way in many years. Cannot speak highly enough of the Earth!
Re tenor, my horn is being borrowed by a friend who needs it more than me right now (I usually stick to the alto)... but I'm going to start writing my own music and will definitely be featuring the tenor. Gimme a month or two. It's coming.
Funny coincidence. I played the Meyer my first 10 years. And I'm playing the acrylic Dukhoff (but a D8 Miami Florida super power chamber) after that.
Naturally,i preferred the Dukhoff :)
Oh, yeah, and my name is Chris (probably same age too)
Good video! I just started to learn Alto Sax since 2 weeks!
Congratulations! Keep it up!
Nice video. You sounded great on the Meyer and the Theo wanne and plastic dukoff! But it seemed it was easier for you to play the Theo wanne.
Thanks! Yeah, the Theo is definitely my pick. This video was made shortly after buying it; I'm much more familiar with it now. Absolutely love it.
First time here, Chris. Nice comparison video. Meyer sounds so stuffy compared to the rest, almost classical. I'm a bit surprised that you control the plastic Dukoff far better than the metal. I agree Dukoff's can be like a high wire act. I have one for my tenor and love it. I also have one for my soprano and still can't get it completely under control, although I like how it sounds in the low end of the horn. Never tried a Theo Wanne, basically because the cost as much as one of the student saxes I own. Anyway, enjoyed the video and I think you sound great on the plastic Dukoff and almost too controlled on the Theo Wanne, as if that can be a thing...
Thanks Bob! Yeah I've had a bit more time with the Wanne now and it's opened up for me in terms of versatility - I can make it wail when required, but it just removes that harsh edge the Dukoff had that I never really liked - that nasty upper mid tone, around 3500hZ that I'd always have to EQ out when playing live. The Wanne Earth & Fire are definitely worth a try and are about half the price of their other prohibitively expensive pieces - highly recommend giving them a try if you get a chance!
The plastic dukoff has a nice feel
really liked the Theo, and the Meyer 2nd. Did not like that Dukoff Metal squeaker.
Thanks for showing how much difference a mouthpiece makes! I've never heard such a variety at one time.
Thanks for watching! Yeah that metal Dukoff is beyond my ability to tame...!
I had the metal power chamber back in the mid 80s. 8 opening. Build on it was dreadful…Window was crooked, a blob of metal was left in the chamber. I should have been smart enough to return it. I moved to the Jumbo Java A8…one of the old blue ones. Similar in design, but quality and playability much improved. Sold both for good cash maybe 10 years ago. I did also like the plastic Dukoff…
Yeah I remember really liking a Java Jumbo I tried randomly in a store in New Zealand about a decade ago. Should've bought it but didn't have cash at the time. Ain't it always the way...!
Hi Chris, thanks for the great video. Any chance you could do a video on playing grace notes properly...? best Ged.
Step baffles are truly a mystery for me to play too, baffling if you will lol. I sound like your metal Dukoff on one and hate it, but would love to figure it out. You sound great on your plastic however, but even fuller on the Theo Wanne.
Anyways, would you recommend something in their lineup versus an otto link as an alto player? I’d like to get that deep, spread, warm sound out of my sax.
Good video👌
Thanks for the visit
Thx for this
perfect!
Watching whole video I got this same though
1 - theo wayne earth
2- Plastic Dukoff
3- Meyer
4 - Metal dukof
maybe the #6 of dukoff mouthpiece is the trouble here... almost everyone uses this mouthpiece with #7 or #8.
Yeah, I haven't tried a 7 or 8. Maybe!
Never knew George Clooney can play saxophone 😆😆
Pffffff. I'm WAY taller than him. (Also WAY less wealthy.)
Just got a Meyer 6, feels much better than my stock piece.
Yeah I don't know of a better upgrade from a stock mouthpiece than a Meyer. They're fantastic and wonderful value.
Hi there Chris
Recently joined the royal marines band service and need to upgrade my mouthpiece. What tip opening is your Theo wanne earth as seriously considering buying one?
Hey mate - I don't think the Elements series has different openings, they're just one size each. Pretty sure that's the case anyway. Definitely recommend trying them out.
Guess this video was specific to the alto sax. Can you help with your mouthpiece recos for the soprano and how you go about choosing one?
Chris's Hot Tip for Soprano Mouthpieces: get a Rico Graftonite! Super cheap, great sound!
i like the plastic dukoff
Yeah it took a while for the Theo Wanne to feel like home. I should do a follow-up - the Dukoff is definitely in second place now.
the differences are subtle , the Meyer has a rounder tone and you seem to be able to play it easier the other three sounded so similar, the Theo Wanne was less squeky. I had a Dukoff 7 super chamber and it was impossible to play.
Yeah the Dukoff are pretty brutal if you're not David Sanborn...
surprisingly dukov plastic sounds great. durgafacilitates the musician's health when playing.
Hello.. Great video... Beautiful comparison... I need a little help here.. I'd like to know the difference between Theo Wanne Earth and Theo Wanne Fire, if thats possible... In my country, with the currency exchange, the mouthpieces are considered expensive.. and its almost impossible to get the opportunity to try them before buy.. if u could help to provide some info or comparison on them, it would be a great help for me to make a decision... 😂
My current setup is Barkley Brazil Pop Kustom 7 with Alta Ambipoly Jazz Reed 2.5... i need to upgrade my mouthpiece to metal as the one i'm using now could not give what i need... looking for a little brighter setup, thick high register with good subtone on low register..
Cheers from Malaysia..!!❤🎷
Yeah the Wannes aren't the cheapest, I agree. Metal are generally a lot more than plastic or hard rubber.
The Fire was awesome, really fantastic modern tone without being impossible to control... but still just a bit too bright for me - I need to be able to play quietly at least as often as I play loud, and the Fire just didn't have the subtlety I needed. At least not for me, other players might be able to do quiet stuff with it comfortably.
If you're looking for something similar but a lot more affordable, you could try the Rico Metalite. I have one on soprano and it's awesome!
Bro 🔥🔥🔥
#1. Theo Wanne #2. Dukoff Plastic #3. Meyer #4. squeaky Dukoff
the dukoff definitely doesn’t work for you 😅 i have 8 D7 - everyone sounds different.
What's your setup?
What do you mean?
@@chrisgable1 What 's your sax.brand and reed brand & no.?
Get a Jody Jazz
The hard rubber is good but basically a Meyer; wasn't a fan of the others I tried a decade ago but there are probably a lot more options now.
The Meyer sounds the best by far. The metal Dukoff sounds absolutely horrible.
Agreed re that Dukoff. Seems to work for Sanborn but I sure ain't him!
7 minutes talking and talking until you finally started playing saxophone. For me it was quite boring. The saxophone playing I liked, was I find it too short. Couldn't you reduce your speech a little bit?
... Or you could skip ahead, like I suggest about 20 seconds in.
you got a selmer sax and you play these cheap mpc's. wtf. should hear how good the high end theo wannes sound. ill never buy anything else than theo's top line mpc's
You realise more expensive doesn't always equal better right?
I tried the Durga and preferred the Earth. The reason they make a bunch of different stuff is because there's no one type that works for everyone.
My alto was a Selmer super action series 2. Not a cheap horn, obviously. Best mouthpiece I ever played was a plastic/rubber diamond Beechler. When I was a kid, of course, I wanted to be like David Sanborn, so I had a few Dukoff mouthpieces. They were garbage, full of pits and inconsistencies. Also, very soft metal.