Have watched every video at least twice and used the info to work hard on my swing over the last year. This series is simply fantastic and I owe a big debt or gratitude to you guys. The big takeaways that have changed my game: - Eliminating left wrist hinging outwards during backswing. I never even knew i did this or the damage it was doing to my game. - I kept getting told to take hands straight back. The bit they left out was that you need to start turning your hips very soon after the takeaway so the backswing can happen smoothly without hitches. - Initiating the forward movement during the backswing was key as well. I had always thought of the swing as an out and back. This just doesn't work but it does take some practice to change this. Moving forward whilst near end of backswing does 2 crucial things for me. Firstly it enabled a shorter backswing without feeling awkward, something i could never manage. Secondly, it means i can start downswing turn with left hip and shoulders. This allows my hands lag behind me and they just seem to come through on the right line now. Its another way of saying, I no longer need to initiate my downswing with my hands (which causes all sorts of problems as you point out in videos). - Raised my awareness to the fact that my pelvis was moving towards the ball on the downswing, which cramped my swing. I loved your tip of sliding bum slightly left on pain of glass. Keeping pelvis back means I have so much more room to rotate and clear my left hip. - I used to push the ball a lot and your video of the shoulder movements made me aware that, on the downswing, my left shoulder was moving to far forward (instead of left/behind me). This was cramping me for room and stopping me rotating properly, causing me to push my hands through the ball. After having moved forward at the end of the backswing, I can now focus on allowing the left hip and left shoulder to rotate back behind me and allow the hands and club to lag and behind. I seriously do not even really think of them anymore and they just seem to come through and do their thing. I have so much more time and space, making my swing so much smoother and consistent. Nice to have an extra 10-20 yards as well! Seriously, feels like i have cracked the code after all these years. I have just subscribed to AMG and cannot wait to refine putting and short game as well. cheers guys.
The lower body and more specifically the rotation of the lower body is one of the most overlooked, but yet one of the most critical parts of the golf swing. So many instruction videos focus on the arms and path of the club. But if you don’t start with the foundation (correct lower body motion) the golfer will always struggle to have the proper swing path. Great video. Keep ‘em coming!
Guys, you are providing gold! I'm a trainer and have my first golf client and tried to up my game in understanding the game and you've guys have helped tremendously. Might even purchase your premium membership once I learn enough. Cheers!
I often search out video of some of the past golf swing “masters.” One of the great swings in the game belonged to Canadian golfer, George Knudson. Inconsistent putting cost him over his career, but his swing is still considered one of the best in the history of the game. His lower body movement exemplifies the basic concept of the essence of this lesson. Check it out when you get a chance..
Today I tried this allowing my lead knee to feel softer in the BSwing... it seemed to lead to the ability to create more room in the downswing because my trail hip got into a better position in relation to my leg. Smoked it from there. Was a real eye opener having never even worried about this before! Thanks again you guys.😁😁😁
Played for the Forces years ago. Got myself down to a 12HC and getting back into the swing of things. No pun intended 😉. Watching your videos really has broken it all down for me. I'm finding movements that I never even knew I should be doing. They seem so simple when it's broken down in the way that you guys are doing it. Great work guys. My goal is single figure HC, maybe even scratch. Practice practice practice. Thanks keep up the fantastic work. 👊
Mike, thanks for confirming that the weight stays Mid foot on the backswing and NOT the heel! VERY important aspect of where you can take athleticism out by getting stuck on your back heel.
First ... great video! Thank you. Second ... a question about when to get the flex out of the knees. In the recent “how the hips work” video, and others, Mike Granato frequently comments about how quickly the downswing occurs (short time), so the recommendation in this video is to have the trail knee and the lead knee flexed about the same when the hands reach about waist high in the downswing. How do we get the lead leg extended by impact? There doesn’t seem to be enough time to do this? Comment?
The knee bend doubles in the backswing then straighten in the downswing (but never really to straight). The right knee does the opposite. During those movements, they will typically have the same bend at that point in the swing. It's not a conscious thought to have the bend be the same at that point, but a reference to use when viewing the swing. There is plenty of time for all that to happen.
Interesting method to reveal / explain proper lower body swing mechanics . . . played earlier this week, 2nd time in 7 yrs - knees issues forced me to give it up for while - so am curious to get out and replicate / practice this. Hopefully my left knee will be able to perform. I don't see why not given the work I have done to build it up. What I found interesting about my round - and it was cold and rainy so not ideal from a "play / practice" perspective was how I had to fight hard to try and keep form the further along we got too the point where nothing was feeling particularly comfortable or normal. I hope video's like this that get much deeper into the mechanics / logic of the swing will not only help me improve my swing but also provide a firmer foundation so should - I lose that feeling - I have something to call upon to try and retain the necessary form needed to hit a ball properly. Many thanks!
That's a very normal progression, Michael, especially with something new in the swing. Be patient with yourself and you'll see those things show up later and later in the round.
At 11:00 you guys talk about how the hip should line up, what are some reasons why the left hip may not be aligned? More specifically in my instance, my lead leg is not totally straight at impact but more so bowed.
This question is not directly related to this particular video, but I’m wondering if AMG has ever discussed (or better yet fully analyzed) Moe Norman’s swing and the single plane theory? Thanks Mike and Sean, I love what you guys are doing to advance our knowledge of the golf swing and help us all to play better!!!!! Caddy Kelly
Thank you for the kind words 🙏🏻 We haven’t. What definition are you using for the “single plane” thing theory? We’ve heard a few different ones over the years.
@@AthleticMotionGolf I suppose I’m mostly interested in what made Moe Norman’s swing so consistent. When I think of the term single plane, I think of the trail arm starting and staying on the same plane as the club. Thanks again!
Great video. When you guys talk about the limited lateral motion forward (marking the alignment stick), I think of the left knee/ leg/hip rotating towards the target which gets the hips open and stops the sliding motion. Is this correct?
The lead knee bending more than trail knee is the eye opener for me. I am thinking that this movement along with getting the packed right shoulder behind your neck (turning around the shirt collar label) is the secret to the surfing movement that re-centers your pressure in transition?
I've seen a drill where you feel right forefoot rotate clockwise in early downswing to get proper right knee bend in early downswing. While this helps me stop early extending and rotating more (tendency for too much forward hip sway down) I am striking the ball less well. Could I be overdoing it?
Hi, I’m Laban and I’m about to take the PAT and try to get into the PGA. The biggest problem I have in the swing is right away my hips rotate and right leg straightens starting in the takeaway, which leads my right leg to fully straighten by the time my left arm is parallel to the ground and I tend to over rotate the hips and sway the upper body before the top of the swing. As a result I have trouble getting the weight shift to the left as I tend to just rotate the hips and I don’t really have a transition as everything works together instead of the re centering move you guys did a video on. How do you properly coil in the right side?
@@AthleticMotionGolf what is happening now is my body is stopping on the through swing and the club is going past the body and i feel i am hitting inconsistent shots with the hands only?
Here's a problem that you might help with. I have a peripheral neuropathy x9 years. In the ancient past, I played h.s. and inter-collegiate golf. Then gave it up for 20 yrs while in training. Once in practice, I got my Hcp down to
Your details about right (trail) knee straightening and then re-flexing are something I had not heard before. As I try to mimic that move, it feels like it causes my lower body to “lead” my upper body iinto the downswing in a more gradual, controlled way than more extreme suggestions (straighten the lead leg, turn your left rear pocket away from the ball, etc., etc.). I always struggled with not getting over the top and this move has seemed to help with my sequencing. Am I thinking about this correctly?
Great vids. Could you spend time on a vid that talks about the “process” for a successful swing change . In particular, why is the subconscious brain so damn stubborn to accept new swing changes, especially on the first tee! What is a realistic time expectation to have a swing change work on the course - 6 Months? To make a change, the effectiveness of drills vs slow swings and as you guys say “ chunk it”. IMO our amateur swing change expectations are way overly aggressive , we need instant gratification, don’t make the necessary commitment and don’t get better. I think a cold hard talk would help reset expectations and establish the required commitment. Thanks Marty Hughes a platinum AMG member.
My knees get equal flex as the very first move in transition and the hands are still at their highest point. Could that be a problem? I always thought it looked a little odd...Thanks!
Ernie Els when he wrote how to build a classic swing, said to keep the right knee solid and not to flex in the slightest. I believe he was so flexible that this swing thought helped him to not over swing
Rewatching as review. The hips don't rotate. They can move forward & back. The pelvis can rotate as a consequence of extending and flexing the hip joints. I haven't played with this yet, but pelvic rotation around the little diamond spot you describe as the center of rotation going back could be helpful to some. The lateral movement of the hips in transition (3-4 inches you described) sounds like it must be in a vertical plane. Hm-m-m-m. I have a neuropathy, with little proprioceptive sense in my feet, so controlling a lateral move takes too long for my conscious brain to process, then send the corrective measures South to the big leg/pelvis. Maybe vertical sticks might help. Thanks. pk
Most AMs raise their head/body in the backswing and don't get it back to the address level. PROs do the opposite. Level during the backswing and lower to & through impact. How do we develop that move?
Pros lower in the body in the backswing, then lower a bit more in transition, then begin rising in the downswing. It's not a good idea to assume the body follows the head movements when looking at this.
I have watched this one a time or ten! All efforts to accomplish a good thing, namely weight shift, early or late -- but early is way better -- with inadequate pelvis tilt -- due to improper address, or poor knee action will waste EVERY practice ball you hit. A question: Is the initial shift to the back foot a product of the lead ankle going into eversion? Is there a slight roll? It is how the old-timers taught it, and I wondered if you guys think it may help with an initial, though slight, lowering of the left knee? Joe Norwood recommended that the left ankle starts from an everted position at address; I think he believed that it was an insurance policy against a high left hip and the resultant flat hip turn. Norwood's books are confusing as hell though!
Be careful. I am 73 and hit lotsa range balls and play 2-3 times a week. I tried very hard to change my downswing from the bent front leg Tom Lehman action to that posted-up on the front side finish used by most good golfers. I tried hard to not let the front hip and knee go beyond neutral joint alignment on the thru swing and finish. Did not hurt on the range but the next day I knew I was in trouble with left hip pain. That was two weeks ago and I have not been able to swing since that time. I have an appointment with my Ortho doc next week. Be careful with that post-up finish - especially if you are a senior golfer.
One question. Why can i do these movements when a ball is not in front of me but when i try to do this with a ball i feel like i cant do any of it properly to hit the damn ball!!!
@@AthleticMotionGolf lol why do we start in one position and end in another? something to think about fellow masters. When I'm done with my theories I will share with you all since you two are so kind to us. great work chuuumps
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Is your early backswing move to the left ball of the foot considered a counter fall to move swing bottom forward of the ball?
Video on putting
Really like how these guys present the gears data in plain english and follow up with drills. Superior content.
thanks for watching, Kevin!
4th summer - low of 80 - credit youselves for helping an old guy learn golf. Thanks
Timeless content! I watch you guys every year! Thanks
Have watched every video at least twice and used the info to work hard on my swing over the last year. This series is simply fantastic and I owe a big debt or gratitude to you guys. The big takeaways that have changed my game:
- Eliminating left wrist hinging outwards during backswing. I never even knew i did this or the damage it was doing to my game.
- I kept getting told to take hands straight back. The bit they left out was that you need to start turning your hips very soon after the takeaway so the backswing can happen smoothly without hitches.
- Initiating the forward movement during the backswing was key as well. I had always thought of the swing as an out and back. This just doesn't work but it does take some practice to change this. Moving forward whilst near end of backswing does 2 crucial things for me. Firstly it enabled a shorter backswing without feeling awkward, something i could never manage. Secondly, it means i can start downswing turn with left hip and shoulders. This allows my hands lag behind me and they just seem to come through on the right line now. Its another way of saying, I no longer need to initiate my downswing with my hands (which causes all sorts of problems as you point out in videos).
- Raised my awareness to the fact that my pelvis was moving towards the ball on the downswing, which cramped my swing. I loved your tip of sliding bum slightly left on pain of glass. Keeping pelvis back means I have so much more room to rotate and clear my left hip.
- I used to push the ball a lot and your video of the shoulder movements made me aware that, on the downswing, my left shoulder was moving to far forward (instead of left/behind me). This was cramping me for room and stopping me rotating properly, causing me to push my hands through the ball. After having moved forward at the end of the backswing, I can now focus on allowing the left hip and left shoulder to rotate back behind me and allow the hands and club to lag and behind. I seriously do not even really think of them anymore and they just seem to come through and do their thing.
I have so much more time and space, making my swing so much smoother and consistent. Nice to have an extra 10-20 yards as well! Seriously, feels like i have cracked the code after all these years.
I have just subscribed to AMG and cannot wait to refine putting and short game as well. cheers guys.
Wow, thank you for taking the time to share that with us! Great job incorporating these concepts into your game!
This channel should be required viewing for anyone trying to get better at this crazy game
Who do we see about making that happen? lol
The lower body and more specifically the rotation of the lower body is one of the most overlooked, but yet one of the most critical parts of the golf swing. So many instruction videos focus on the arms and path of the club. But if you don’t start with the foundation (correct lower body motion) the golfer will always struggle to have the proper swing path. Great video. Keep ‘em coming!
Dan Scanlon great point and very true 👊
Guys, you are providing gold! I'm a trainer and have my first golf client and tried to up my game in understanding the game and you've guys have helped tremendously. Might even purchase your premium membership once I learn enough. Cheers!
Wow your explanation is so so awesome and clear about this critical point in the swing
Love your work guys, have a great Christmas & new year.
Great drills. Another very timely lesson from a great teaching duo.
Glad it helped, thanks for checking it out!
Well that sure clears up a lot of things. Great video, thanks.
GEARS is the GOAT teaching tool.
What a great video.
Not much it can't see
I often search out video of some of the past golf swing “masters.” One of the great swings in the game belonged to Canadian golfer, George Knudson. Inconsistent putting cost him over his career, but his swing is still considered one of the best in the history of the game. His lower body movement exemplifies the basic concept of the essence of this lesson. Check it out when you get a chance..
Today I tried this allowing my lead knee to feel softer in the BSwing... it seemed to lead to the ability to create more room in the downswing because my trail hip got into a better position in relation to my leg. Smoked it from there. Was a real eye opener having never even worried about this before! Thanks again you guys.😁😁😁
Thanks again guys! What a great video. Will be in my private collection of instructions.
Love it! Thanks for watching!
Played for the Forces years ago. Got myself down to a 12HC and getting back into the swing of things. No pun intended 😉. Watching your videos really has broken it all down for me. I'm finding movements that I never even knew I should be doing. They seem so simple when it's broken down in the way that you guys are doing it. Great work guys. My goal is single figure HC, maybe even scratch. Practice practice practice. Thanks keep up the fantastic work. 👊
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for your service!!
Mike, thanks for confirming that the weight stays Mid foot on the backswing and NOT the heel! VERY important aspect of where you can take athleticism out by getting stuck on your back heel.
Thank you both for this very detailed video. I'm working on this move at the moment so this will polish up my understanding perfectly.
Nice! Let us know if we can help
First ... great video! Thank you. Second ... a question about when to get the flex out of the knees. In the recent “how the hips work” video, and others, Mike Granato frequently comments about how quickly the downswing occurs (short time), so the recommendation in this video is to have the trail knee and the lead knee flexed about the same when the hands reach about waist high in the downswing. How do we get the lead leg extended by impact? There doesn’t seem to be enough time to do this? Comment?
The knee bend doubles in the backswing then straighten in the downswing (but never really to straight). The right knee does the opposite. During those movements, they will typically have the same bend at that point in the swing. It's not a conscious thought to have the bend be the same at that point, but a reference to use when viewing the swing. There is plenty of time for all that to happen.
Interesting method to reveal / explain proper lower body swing mechanics . . . played earlier this week, 2nd time in 7 yrs - knees issues forced me to give it up for while - so am curious to get out and replicate / practice this. Hopefully my left knee will be able to perform. I don't see why not given the work I have done to build it up. What I found interesting about my round - and it was cold and rainy so not ideal from a "play / practice" perspective was how I had to fight hard to try and keep form the further along we got too the point where nothing was feeling particularly comfortable or normal. I hope video's like this that get much deeper into the mechanics / logic of the swing will not only help me improve my swing but also provide a firmer foundation so should - I lose that feeling - I have something to call upon to try and retain the necessary form needed to hit a ball properly. Many thanks!
That's a very normal progression, Michael, especially with something new in the swing. Be patient with yourself and you'll see those things show up later and later in the round.
That is so good and so clear guys Master Teachers second to none
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Great and easily understood instruction, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
The absolute best on yt.
Thanks for watching, Randy!
As always, great content.
thanks for watching!
At 11:00 you guys talk about how the hip should line up, what are some reasons why the left hip may not be aligned? More specifically in my instance, my lead leg is not totally straight at impact but more so bowed.
This will help a lot! Thank you!
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
This question is not directly related to this particular video, but I’m wondering if AMG has ever discussed (or better yet fully analyzed) Moe Norman’s swing and the single plane theory? Thanks Mike and Sean, I love what you guys are doing to advance our knowledge of the golf swing and help us all to play better!!!!!
Caddy Kelly
Thank you for the kind words 🙏🏻 We haven’t. What definition are you using for the “single plane” thing theory? We’ve heard a few different ones over the years.
@@AthleticMotionGolf I suppose I’m mostly interested in what made Moe Norman’s swing so consistent. When I think of the term single plane, I think of the trail arm starting and staying on the same plane as the club. Thanks again!
What does the weight distribution look like on impact? Also is most of that weight on the front foot in the heel?
Again the video finished up well I’ll try that
Same movements for every club in the bag, including driver?
Great video. When you guys talk about the limited lateral motion forward (marking the alignment stick), I think of the left knee/ leg/hip rotating towards the target which gets the hips open and stops the sliding motion. Is this correct?
Yessir
This is great video I’m putting together the prices of the golf swing to work for me. Thank you.
The lead knee bending more than trail knee is the eye opener for me.
I am thinking that this movement along with getting the packed right shoulder behind your neck (turning around the shirt collar label) is the secret to the surfing movement that re-centers your pressure in transition?
Your thinking is right on the money!
I've seen a drill where you feel right forefoot rotate clockwise in early downswing to get proper right knee bend in early downswing. While this helps me stop early extending and rotating more (tendency for too much forward hip sway down) I am striking the ball less well. Could I be overdoing it?
Great video and drills
Hi, I’m Laban and I’m about to take the PAT and try to get into the PGA. The biggest problem I have in the swing is right away my hips rotate and right leg straightens starting in the takeaway, which leads my right leg to fully straighten by the time my left arm is parallel to the ground and I tend to over rotate the hips and sway the upper body before the top of the swing. As a result I have trouble getting the weight shift to the left as I tend to just rotate the hips and I don’t really have a transition as everything works together instead of the re centering move you guys did a video on. How do you properly coil in the right side?
HI guys , another great drill
Thanks!
Great Video guy's and thanks so much for clearing things up for me, i'm now off to the range?
Let us know how it goes
@@AthleticMotionGolf what is happening now is my body is stopping on the through swing and the club is going past the body and i feel i am hitting inconsistent shots with the hands only?
@@grahamsmith7407 Look at in the transition or in the backswing. Something there is causing that body to stop early.
Perfect!
Thank you for this video. Been waiting for this one!
Didn't want you to think we forgot about it lol
Here's a problem that you might help with. I have a peripheral neuropathy x9 years. In the ancient past, I played h.s. and inter-collegiate golf. Then gave it up for 20 yrs while in training. Once in practice, I got my Hcp down to
I tend to flair my left foot out a bit .. would it limit the left knee bend ?
not a big fan of flaring left foot more than a few degrees. It causes knee motion issues
Your details about right (trail) knee straightening and then re-flexing are something I had not heard before. As I try to mimic that move, it feels like it causes my lower body to “lead” my upper body iinto the downswing in a more gradual, controlled way than more extreme suggestions (straighten the lead leg, turn your left rear pocket away from the ball, etc., etc.). I always struggled with not getting over the top and this move has seemed to help with my sequencing. Am I thinking about this correctly?
Yessir. That's the "playing downhill" feel that we reference a lot. It's one of the elements we see all the time in great swings.
Great vids. Could you spend time on a vid that talks about the “process” for a successful swing change . In particular, why is the subconscious brain so damn stubborn to accept new swing changes, especially on the first tee! What is a realistic time expectation to have a swing change work on the course - 6 Months? To make a change, the effectiveness of drills vs slow swings and as you guys say “ chunk it”. IMO our amateur swing change expectations are way overly aggressive , we need instant gratification, don’t make the necessary commitment and don’t get better. I think a cold hard talk would help reset expectations and establish the required commitment. Thanks Marty Hughes a platinum AMG member.
My knees get equal flex as the very first move in transition and the hands are still at their highest point. Could that be a problem? I always thought it looked a little odd...Thanks!
I also don't have enough lateral motion either, left hip does not get over left ankle. Could be related?
It is, Jim. When the knees hit equal flex, the hip will be level. That needs to happen much later in the downswing. And yes, the lateral is related.
Makes sense! 👍🏽
Make sense! 👍🏽
Ernie Els when he wrote how to build a classic swing, said to keep the right knee solid and not to flex in the slightest. I believe he was so flexible that this swing thought helped him to not over swing
No doubt he was next level flexible
Your videos are great because of the data-driven non subjective information they provide!
Rewatching as review. The hips don't rotate. They can move forward & back. The pelvis can rotate as a consequence of extending and flexing the hip joints. I haven't played with this yet, but pelvic rotation around the little diamond spot you describe as the center of rotation going back could be helpful to some. The lateral movement of the hips in transition (3-4 inches you described) sounds like it must be in a vertical plane. Hm-m-m-m. I have a neuropathy, with little proprioceptive sense in my feet, so controlling a lateral move takes too long for my conscious brain to process, then send the corrective measures South to the big leg/pelvis. Maybe vertical sticks might help. Thanks. pk
Most AMs raise their head/body in the backswing and don't get it back to the address level. PROs do the opposite. Level during the backswing and lower to & through impact. How do we develop that move?
Pros lower in the body in the backswing, then lower a bit more in transition, then begin rising in the downswing. It's not a good idea to assume the body follows the head movements when looking at this.
I have watched this one a time or ten! All efforts to accomplish a good thing, namely weight shift, early or late -- but early is way better -- with inadequate pelvis tilt -- due to improper address, or poor knee action will waste EVERY practice ball you hit.
A question: Is the initial shift to the back foot a product of the lead ankle going into eversion? Is there a slight roll? It is how the old-timers taught it, and I wondered if you guys think it may help with an initial, though slight, lowering of the left knee? Joe Norwood recommended that the left ankle starts from an everted position at address; I think he believed that it was an insurance policy against a high left hip and the resultant flat hip turn. Norwood's books are confusing as hell though!
Be careful. I am 73 and hit lotsa range balls and play 2-3 times a week. I tried very hard to change my downswing from the bent front leg Tom Lehman action to that posted-up on the front side finish used by most good golfers. I tried hard to not let the front hip and knee go beyond neutral joint alignment on the thru swing and finish. Did not hurt on the range but the next day I knew I was in trouble with left hip pain. That was two weeks ago and I have not been able to swing since that time. I have an appointment with my Ortho doc next week. Be careful with that post-up finish - especially if you are a senior golfer.
So you’re saying the left hip pulls the thigh and thus the knee in the start of the back swing
One question. Why can i do these movements when a ball is not in front of me but when i try to do this with a ball i feel like i cant do any of it properly to hit the damn ball!!!
13:22 ref for myself
Sound effects at 4:42......Phewwwg
Sorry where do I fined the ling?
But at the end of the backswing, you’ve already created your shift to the left side before doing these leg moves, right?
The shift towards the left side STARTS about mid-backswing for most golfers. At the top, it's basically back to where you started at address.
head weight boys, head weight boys, head weight boys....finish angle tied to head weight. great vid yu da bombs
One of us has a lot of head weight :-)
@@AthleticMotionGolf lol why do we start in one position and end in another? something to think about fellow masters. When I'm done with my theories I will share with you all since you two are so kind to us. great work chuuumps
Or you can Grip it and Rip it and grab another Bush light.
Is this me??? 😂😂😂
hahaha
Looking over a fence! Looking under the hood at a new car dealership.
Really....
old cars have "play" in the steering wheel...so does the golf swing. discuss....maybe tooo advanced for yu two? lol
Yep lol