@@lt3387 yea but it ends up doing nothing krilling should prob train his aim instead of his power and boom he could have killed Raditz, vegita , nappa and frieza
Question: What's the most effective way to kill an enemy? Answer: Turn him into a friend before he has a chance to become your enemy in the first place.
One thing you missed is that Cell can actually use the Spirit Bomb now! He has access to the technique, but normally it'd harm him for being evil. Since this Cell is good, he has no such restrictions! Plus with Zamasu as an infinite energy core... that means he can make a literal Infinity Spirit Bomb. O_o
@@bluephantom277 No need to spam it when you can just... keep expanding it. Hell, if Goku and Hercule used Shin to ask the people of Earth to lend their energy, if anything, that'd just make its _growth rate_ beyond any reasonable comprehension. Hell, pretty much any threat could get torn to pieces in a matter of seconds by a planet-sized Spirit Bomb.
Can't. Instant transmission has never shown being able to jump across dimensions. And even if it could you'd need to lock on to an adequate power signal to teleport to and there isn't any in the null realm >.< but he could have just used instant transmission to teleport everyone to the stands one by one lmfao 🤣
The part where Cell makes an army of Cell Jr.’s is pretty hilarious. But my only question is what happens to them after. It’s not like the multi form technique that makes temporary copies that re-merge after a while, each Cell Jr. is a free willed individual that’s there to stay.
How I imagine it in TFS: Jiren: "I SWEAR TO THE SUPREME KAI AND THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION OF MY FUCKING UNIVERSE IF THESE LITTLE SHITS DON'T GET OFF ME-- [the muffled rage continues]"
I imagine just while underneath the mountain of cell jr's jiren just starts trying to throw haymakers and decks one Jr and send him flying out of the dog pile
Jiren: *getting swarmed by Cells Jrs* *Cell Jrs all collectively asking if he got any games on his phones and seeing if he wants to see the do fortnite dances*
In this timeline, Cell might just be the best paid employee at CapsuleCorp. Also in the original timeline, Gohan could not train because that would clash with the studying; but with Cell around, he can do both at the same time.
I’m sure this joke was done already but to sum up cell vs future cell: Cell: You might know everything I’m going to do but that’s not going to help you since I know everything YOU’RE going to do! Strange isn’t it?!
My guess about Cell not being perfect from the get-go: time, and resources. Gero probably had limited resources to build the infinite power engines in 17 and 18. Plus, Cell was still an embryo, so it wasn't like Gero could install such parts into him yet. Cell would take over a decade to fully mature, and besides, Gero might find some new DNA to use to tweak with Cell's genetic code further in the future.
Seems as good a reason as anything else. Toriyama was a very off the cuff writer with some editor issues, so sometimes we’re left trying to put together the pieces of something that doesn’t necessarily make sense when you think about it. A lack of time and resources would make sense to me.
@@Storyman09 i remember that was stated that Gero made Cell but he was kinda expensive to produce because he needed constant energy and would take years soo Gero made 19 and 17 and 18 and made them absorbable just in case meanwhile the lab continued to do Cell
Yeah this makes the most sense to me. Like, why would he not have given himself and Android 19 infinite energy as well? Why make himself and 19 weaker than 18 and 17, if not for the fact that he simple didn't have the resources. The man was living in a cave, he didn't have large quantities of funding.
It's been a year, Salad, so you probably won't see this, but I actually know why Cell wasn't made perfect. It's because he WAS, but Toriyama's editor complained about his appearance, calling him an "ugly bug man" and saying they need a better looking villain, or else nobody will take him seriously. Toriyama mostly writes his stories on a chapter-by-chapter basis, he doesn't really have a huge overarching plan for anything. So he agreed, and improvised a transformation for Cell to undergo. Cell was never originally intended to change his appearance, he was already "perfect" from the start. The transformations were added by the editor. That doesn't make sense in the context of the universe, but that IS the reason. It's largely up to us to invent a reason for why Gero did this. My headcanon is that the most advanced part of all three androids is their energy system or reactor that gives them infinite stamina: Gero didn't have enough of whatever he needed to make a large number of those things, so he compromised. He made three of them, and put one into 17, one into 18, and one into Cell. Cell gets stronger by taking reactors of 17 and 18 and adding them to his own. Gero invented the energy absorption mechanisms as an attempt to make the reactors unnecessary in the first place, and gave one of those to himself and another to 19: if an android could simply steal energy from their opponents, they could make the more advanced energy system unnecessary. 16 has a more primitive power source to support his almost entirely mechanical body, which is why he's outclassed by 17 and 18 and why Cell gains nothing from eating him. This is all just headcanon that I made up, but it makes a certain amount of sense.
Darko Marković is it actually finished? I don’t think it is. Idk because he said when he finishes but if it is finished can you tell me where I can read it
@@sakuuyo1626 He said he would maybe continue when the Moro arc is finished 1:08:43. The point of my comment is making fun of him doing that in every what if that comes to that point.
Cell:Hey baldy Jiren:What did you just call m- Cell:Would you mind taking care of my children? Jiren:Your what? *proceeds to get trampled by cell jrs.*
My idea of why Cell wasn’t perfect is that he was “meant” to be the Plan B for the Androids. We know Gero had him created after 17 & 18 and specifically to absorb the twins then I assume he was the final plan for when they get out of control or if they ever did. He would then become perfect to show that his purpose was revealed.
that and maybe sick punishment you see gero probably knew already the androids wont obey him at full since they are people still not full machines so he created cell not only as a backup plan but as a twisted disgusting way to punish them if they betray him so yeah gero is one sick old motherfucker
He didn’t make him perfect because cell was his plan b.. if the androids betrayed him cell would get rid of them... making cell have a strong desire to be perfect, and cell needing the androids to become perfect. That was the perfect motivation for gero to install Into cell, also making cell stronger in the process
The motivation of cell is not to defend the doctor but to fill his stomach cell food is energy(lifeforce) . He wants to be perfect because the only way he can stop eating is by consuming the androids which gives him infinite energy
Cell was never his plan b to begin with cell was his plan A the whole time because he was his ultimate creation and why would a evil scientist collect cells from all the strongest beings on the planet(z fighters and others like freiza ) just to make a plan b think about it ,zero wanted only one thing to create the perfect being of destruction so he created cell and cell is unstable and hungry for power and he needs life energy limitlessly to maintain the body so he absorbed androids plain and simple androids were only created for cell not the other way around
How would Evil Cell have found 17? He can’t detect his energy at all. The only reason why Cell found the androids in Canon was because of Piccolo’s huge fight with 17.
But they now have jobs and home addresses that Cell could use to track them down (like the first Terminator movie), where in the original they were just drifting from place to place.
I remember that Cell once absorbed Krillin in one of the What If scenarios in the games, he got a whole new look so I'd think that this Cell would also get a new look.
My idea is Cell has to have his own Infinity Engines, but since Cell is a Side Project, Gero never got to adding his own to him. Thus, 17 and 18 become important to Cell because of the IEs. It's not so much 17 and 18, or Geros' Commands, Cell probably sees something is missing from the inside of him, and hopes to rectify it. Like how Gero didn't want to destroy the world, The Docs Progamming is just so shoddy, someone who can code Cell in Ruby can do a better job.
You know What? With Krillin and Lazuli dating by the time Trunks comes back, maybe this leads to Marron being born earlier. Thus We have a Trio of Trunks, Goten, and Marron running around and having fun.
So imagine Krillian pitching this idea to Bulma and then going on step further,,, Krillian: Hey Bulma think you can reprogram these andriods to not be evil? Bulma: It's programming, so yeah I can do that. So how many are we- Krillian: About 7 and a incomplete Clown! Not sure if that one was supposed to be a joke. And one of those is kinda in a pod being created as a embryo!- Bulma: What the F- Krillian: - O and this one here is pretty cute can you program her also to be in love me! *Bulma's eyes narrow* Krillian: Went to far huh? It was the girl right? Bulma: ...Just get the hell out of here... *rubs her eyes* Bulma: I need some advil...
I always thought that he needed the two perpetual energy generators in 17 and 18 to have enough energy to metamorphose into and maintain his perfect form (as seen when he de-morphed with the loss of 18) and Gero only had the money and rare materials to make two and use them to power his then known to be hard to control rebellious creations. In order to save on costs and to have the "PERFECT" backup plan, he redesigned cell to be created and activated upon the deactivation of a hypothetical wireless connection to the sub-lab's supercomputer with the purpose of absorbing them, attaining perfection, and killing Goku, like some overly complicated dead-man's switch.
Not really as he re-obtained his perfect form in canon after he blew up. He no longer had 18 but he still obtained it. I suspect that the androids were a shortcut and a backup plan on behalf of Gero. If he kept absorbing lifeforms he would've eventually turned into semi-perfect and then perfect form like some demented pokemon.
@@blackmark2899 When he blew up in canon, he grew stronger and his Ki increased. Maybe he was able to replace the Artificial Ki that was being used to maintain the Perfect form with his own Natural Ki
I got an idea for a new transformation for Cell: Celestial Cell, a combination of SSJ God and Golden Frieza, except that instead of a metallic look like Frieza, Cell has a glassy, almost gemstone or jade-like appearance to his carapace.
personally, i thought golden cell would be viable since he has Frieza's dna, and frieza can transform into golden. And since cell has all the saiyans' cells, t would be even easier to achieve with zenkais and frieza's potential.
I think it would be more interesting had Good Cell started out imperfect like the original, but since he's morally good he's neither obsessed with perfection nor out to absorb 17 & 18 or anyone else. Then, GC trains with the others and grows stronger before Bad Cell shows up and manages to absorb 17 & 18. Thus, we get Imperfect Cell Vs. Perfect Cell, and of course the latter crushes the former until GC trains in the Room of Spirit and Time, letting GC match BC. At that point, things go more or less the same with Gohan going SS2 and obliterating BC perhaps with help from GC. The really interesting part is the Majin Arc and afterward. Good Cell doesn't want to absorb 17 & 18, but despite his training for 7 years eventually he has to and they let him in order to stand up to Majin Buu, who gets released. Then Good Cell becomes more than powerful enough to completely thrash Majin Buu, even as Super Buu.
Mr. Salad Saiyan. I think I know why Cell wasn’t made perfect right away You see, Dr Gero was the head scientist ever since the red ribbon army was created. Dr Gero and Dr. Flappe created Android 8 (yes. Gero helped on creating Eighter) and after seeing Eighter becoming good, he feared that his other Android creations could fight back against him. After during creating 17 and 18, Gero made Cell as the ‘main project’, for since if ever 17 and 18 rebelled against Gero, Gero would have used Cell against them. Or at least this is my theory
I don't think cell would be immortal, but he'd both get a constant wnergy source to drain off of, AND a substantial power boost. I reckon even if zamasu escaped, that power boost would be permanently infused. Plus, the longer zamasu's trapped, the stronger cell gets
Personally I’d have added Master Roshi to The mix that would’ve been Cell, Why him?: to integrate Roshi’s 300 or so years worth of combat experience, to then equal a Cell with no equal, because on top of his gifted experience, he’d be gaining experience from his own path so literally there wouldn’t be an opponent he couldn’t fell like a tree
@@ZayahTheFool One, that's the joke. You could be wrong considering that Trunks isn't there yet to take up her time having her father pick up the slack. She could have been the one to say it. Two, 16 wasn't even awake yet to even garner his interest in birds in the first place. Point being, don't be a passive aggressive party pooper.
@@Not_Claptrap Yeah but tien got treated like shit, Yamaha wasn't even there, krillen got to do some stuff but nothing interesting or memorable, piccolo stuff was disappointing as usual, really the only case you could make besides roshi is 17
@@Not_Claptrap Thats all tien got though,1 annoying enemy the rest of the cast could have taken down as well not to mention tien taking himself out in the process. But I will admit 18 getting a little bit of spotlight is cool. Still dosent make up for the person I forgot to mention:Piccolo. Seriously the guy cannot catch a break, he got cheated in the universe 6 arc, he pussied out in the buu saga tournament and he gets like what 1 boring ass fight? God damn
Nope the doctor knew that he would be long dead anyway as you see the voice recording activates after the doctor death saying he is his ultimate creation etc
@@Wirtz_Is_the_goat well here's an excuse: gero had to make him with a limited amount of tech and DNA, which means he may have not had enough technical parts and bio parts to make him perfect, and only later found a way using android 17 and 18's immense power being a way to break that wall on his power
Krillin : Kills old weak human being within seconds of meeting him Also Krillin : Instead of killing these androids we were told would kill us, lets make them allies. lol
@@cameronhoward7846 I had a thought: If 18 was technically a teen before she was augmented, wouldn't it be illegal for Krillin to be in a relationship with her?
I do like the idea that Cell was a background backup plan. If 17 and 18 were completely out of control, Cell was designed to be able to absorb them, completely removing the threat of them, but as a scientist, this would also mean that Gero's greatest works weren't simply discarded. They would be repurposed, and Cell's perfection would thus also possibly be something he could hang over his creation's head to instil loyalty, even just for the time being. Cell was never made to be Perfect because he was never actually supposed to be used outside of a worst case scenario; the computer in Gero's sub lab was thus coded to complete Cell only if Gero was killed.
Frieza’s DNA should have made present Cell far stronger than future Cell because a little training goes a long way for frieza, ad in the Zenkais he’d be getting from the Saiyan DNA and it should have been no contest between the cells
When you made 17 black or just the zamasu taking lapis' body, you should have had future zamasu also take 17's body as well making two android 17's and instead of merging with potara earrings, they merge like GT and they become 'Merged 17' or basically making Super 17. This may sound dumb to you but I like this idea a lot😅
Also, I just had an interesting thought... If cell's constantly drawing on zamasu, & let's face it, even if he's immortal, the amount of energy cell requires for attacks vs. Zamasus power...is Zamasu even going to be able to remain conscious for more than a few moments to get his thoughts together? As long as cell is fighting, zamasu is officially screwed in this scenario. Even if he tries to corrupt Cell from within, his immortality is going to be working overtime as is just to preserve his existence. This absorbtion fate I believe would be more akin to Buu absorbing someone, minus the personality traits, because since Zamasu is being drawn from, but never completely assimilated due to the immortality thing... Yeah, realistically, this was, or should have just been a major beneficial power gain for Cell. I guess there's some technicalities, like how fast does Zamasu regenerate if it's consistent. Like cell has to take a breath after so many attacks, even if it's just for a second, if he met a foe where he tried to attack consecutively. Probably doesn't seem like a major deal, considering regeneration from an immortal wish is virtually instant, but as a certain time asassin could tell you, pretty much every second counts XD
I feel like the reason cell needs to become perfect is similar to the way that 13 powers up in the super android movie. He needs their energy reactors and didnt have enough time to make more, and since cell was a backup project, he would come out and take them from the androids should they have failed. Gero would probably have scavenged their remains for the reactors.
i feel like cell would be unknowingly training Gohan for ultra instinct,quizzing him while fighting,forcing him to think of answers rather than his next move,getting his body to move without thinking about it as he would be thinking of something else
Jiren: So you must be Cell Cell (from this what if): Well, if you know who I am then surely you must know of the perfect army Jiren: The what now? Cell: GO FORTH, MY CHILDREN!!! An army of over 9000 Cell Jr’s suddenly appears and tramples a flabbergasted Jiren Jiren (internal): THEY’RE SO DAMN CUTE, BUT THEY KEEP KICKING ME IN THE DICK!!!
With the way Cell was portrayed it was clear that he was not another android/cyborg but instead a genetically modifyed lifeform using genes from all the fighters to have the potential to be perfect. He needed sustenance to grow into that form though, as with about any species. He was born rather than built, as there likely wasn't anything strong enough to be used as a basis for a perfect being. I htink the rest becomes clear once you think about issues with mechanical modifications on something that is still growing and how Cell's body is tuned to transormations, likely partially thanks to Freeza's DNA. He needed to mature first for a few things and using those unreliable androids as food seems like killing two birds with one stone.
Beerus: Hakais Buu's egg Me: considering that the kai in buu is probably needed to stop Moro, well this timeline just went to shit. Also since Kami is still the Guardian of Earth (which in turn means that the Dragon Balls are weaker), wouldn't that mean that Frieza (Freeza?) would be unable to be ressurected? There was an original timelimit of 1 year from the moment a person died an unnatural death.
I think the reason cell didnt start as perfect is because 1) he was the 3rd choice for final villain 2) his progression allowed for our heroes to have the time to do so themselves as because of 1 they needed a way to jack their power to combat cell and if he was perfect off the bat they'd of been Ramrodded 3) this allowed the z fighters to ally themselves with the androids in a sense with the common enemy of cell and a way for them to join the cast and not just purged from the story
The reason Cell wasn't Perfect from the get go is, assumedly, energy. He needed to drain energy from humans to survive and thrive, and 17 and 18 are infinite sources of energy, so they'd possibly be necessary to account for the energy consumption of his perfect form.
Gabriel Merlin wait so he needs TWO infinite energy sources? That doesn't make any sense cause if it's really infinite which it is as it was confirmed then he wouldn't need both androids so your theory is just wrong here
@@Catsrnice_ (Heavy headcanon ahead) To be fair, Cell's Perfect form was so strong it mopped the floor with the legendary Super Sayian; a being of myth that was capable of defeating Frieza, who could destroy entire planets with a single blast. And Cell fought multiple of them without breaking a sweat! Just because they have "infinite" energy, doesn't mean they can exert it all at once, otherwise the Androids SHOULD have been completely unstoppable, since they could (in theory) have simple use a portion of their "infinite" energy to vaporize anyine they fought just by throwing a punch. Cell transforms when he absorbs the Androids, because their "infinite" power isn't infinitely exertable. The Androids actually only have infinite power, in the sense that no matter what they do, they never get tired. Cell sustains himself by absorbing energy, which he then uses up. When he absorbs the Androids, his body now has a new (and never depleatable) source of energy, and due to the Frieza cells in his body, he transforms into a new form, because his body now has a source it can constantly pull from. His body has a constant energy level, so it can withstand using more power without the risk of running out. This is why once he becomes Semi-Perfect Cell, he no longer goes around absorbing people; he already has an infinite fuel source. Before, Imperfect Cell just went around eating entire cities instead of looking for the Androids. Why would he waste time absorbing humans when he could look for the Androids without risk of being caught by the Z Warriors? Because he needed a source of energy, and couldn't risk running out of power while looking for the Androids. Once he had the Androids absorbed, he didn't need to look for a food source. This is also why he had to "eat" the Androids instead of "drink" them, since their energy source wasn't biological, so he needed to incorporate them in a way that transfered their machinery instead of just biological matter. After all, what did Perfect Cell do before the Cell Games? Sat on his ass and did nothing.
@@Catsrnice_ i like to think that the infinite energy sources need organic components (16 was never said to have one correct me if i'm wrong) and that is why 17 and 18 are able to get stronger they are training to be able to produce not only faster but also more of it. it would explain why cell never got stronger beyond zenkai boosts as he's unable to train those sources once he got them (which would partially explain why he didn't train beyond arrogance) due to how his absorption ability works
My take on the androids infinite energy is that it’s only to their relative power level. You can only exert the energy as quickly as it’s produced, even if it’s endless it can only produce at a certain rate. Think of putting 1 battery in a device that needs 2, even if that battery never runs out it still won’t output enough power to power the device properly. Cell has 2 androids in him with endless energy relative to their own power level, since his power is the combination of both the androids plus his own, their energy supply isn’t enough to replenish his as quickly as he can expel it in a fight. This explains why he can still get tired in fights, albeit he should certainly be able to recharge a lot quicker when taking a short rest. It makes logical sense, I don’t think in reality it is this way because I don’t think they really thought about it so in depth. Would have made an interesting final battle with super perfect cell if he came back stronger but without 18s supply of energy he couldn’t sustain his power for long in a fight 🤷🏽♀️
I think the reason Cell wasn't made perfect was that he was intended to be the solution to the problem that Gero knew 17 and 18 would become. He wanted Goku and company to be taken out as soon as possible, so when he had the androids powerful enough that he believed they could do what he wanted, he couldn't wait to activate them. He knew they were rebellious, and that he wouldn't be able to control them (though, he may not have known they would kill him). He likely foresaw that, after they were finished doing what they were programmed to do, they would just do whatever they wanted, and it probably wouldn't be anything he would agree with. So he created Cell with a personality that he programmed completely, who would act entirely in-line with what he wanted. Having Cell be enhanced by the absorption of the 17 and 18 gave him extra incentive to rid the world of the androids as quickly as he could.
5:20 Its possible that Gero had cell be imperfect as a sort of fail safe. In the first place i think he had a self destruct mechanism in all of his new androids which is why he was killed by androids 17 and 18. They did not want to be controlled so took advantage of Gero's pride in his creations being completely subservient to him so that he would lower his guard. In this case cell was made imperfect because he was a side project and a countermeasure in case android 17 and 18 needed to be put out of commission. Gero while prideful is smart. Its not to far out their that Android 17 and 18 were also meant to act as countermeasures for cell. With a self destruct implementation, Gero could destroy them if needed therefore preventing cell from reaching his 'perfect form'. For cell becoming perfect was the carrot while the stick was the fact that he could only 'evolve' if he absorbed both androids. If Gero controlled the androids he controlled cell and if the androids betrayed him then cell was there to end them. At this point, i dont think Gero cared much for death since he had already transferred his conscious to an android body and had multiple fail safes in place in case of his subsequent destruction or 'demise'. In fact Gero at this point pretty much fits the 'mad scientist' title and while he may have the smarts, that doesn't mean he is wise. In fact Gero could have easily been redeemed, but his desire for revenge and years of loneliness blinded him to following such a mutually destructive path. I think doing a spotlight on a Gero Redemption story might be interesting, i always find it fascinating on how many what if's you can come up with. Great video.
I always figured the reason Cell had to absorb the Androids to be perfect was because he needed both their infinite energy engines to fuel his perfect form.
This was my thought as well, and as for why he wasn't built with engines in him... it's probably because cell *had* to grow up. It wasn't possible for him to become so naturally strong without the 20 years of growing in a pod for him to fester.
no he wont use the dragon balls assuming this cell would be around goku gohan whis beerus bulmas influence the draon balls the suprme kais influence we know what the suprme kais had done to kid buu
My concern is that Zamasu would somehow be able to take control of Cell from within, considering the fact that he kinda became the sky when Trunks beat him originally.
NGL Cell should be much stronger. His potential is beyond Frieza's and Gohan's combined. (He's not in the mix, but Cell has more potential than Broly.)
I actually have a theory about why Cell started out Imperfect: remember how the Infinite Energy Androids were so uncontrollable? Gero might've wanted the benefits without the rebellion. Cell never really runs out of energy once he becomes Perfect, only ever really gets winded for a minute or two whenever he gets halfway blown the F up, and then he's 100% fine. Alternatively, there's a good chance those damn engines are pricey as hell to build and Gero couldn't make more while staying hidden, so this was the compromise.
Capsule Corp Cell supremacy! Also, 21:38: Present Cell: "You might know everything I'm going to do, but that's not going to help you since *I* know everything *you're* going to do! Strange, isn't it!?" Also #2: 1:06:59 is my favorite part in the entire video as it's really hilarious imagining Jiren getting swarmed by Cell Jr's!
I love these what ifs. I wonder what would have happened if Jiren had gut punched Cell and he spit out Zamasu. Also would Cell look different after absorbing Zamasu? Infinite God Ki too? Not an opponent you wanna fight
Noval Bledsoe but he drank them. He absorbed 17/18 and changed. This scenario he said he absorbed him not just drank him. So couldn’t that make him change just like 17/18?
I would have to argue that although Cell absorbed someone who is immortal, that would not translate into an infinite energy source. His power level would function like anyone else and thus be limited. Even Beerus as powerful as he is and is a god has finite energy. The only benefit from having an immortal swallowed up like Cell having would possibly be a massive boost to his existing regenerative ability. His healing factor would probably go x100 and instantly heal any damage he takes. And being his powers are more rooted in science then sorcery, I would have to say if he was blasted to oblivion it would result in the immortal being released and free again. And the ability to regenerate any damage without spending his energy to do it would be a massive boon in combat.
They'd become evil like they were in the future. The reason the real timeline Androids are somewhat good people is cause Gero never had the chance to reprogram them to be psychopathic
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I think one of the most unbelievable parts of this story is the fact that krillin’s destructo disk actually did something
Agreed
his kienzan is actually a insanely strong attack
@@lt3387 yea but it ends up doing nothing
krilling should prob train his aim instead of his power and boom he could have killed Raditz, vegita , nappa and frieza
@@lt3387 yeah he's just got the worst aim in all of DragonBall history
@@gigachad4149 technically wasn't Krilin aim it's just the opponents who were faster
Question: What's the most effective way to kill an enemy?
Answer: Turn him into a friend before he has a chance to become your enemy in the first place.
jump them, 17 on one*
Yamcha,Tien, Chiaotzu, Piccolo, Vegeta, The Androids, Buu, Broly and now Granolah
Epic Mickey franchise
@@bigpoggers6507jump them 17 on one? Maybe 17 + 18 on one perhaps?
And then kill your enemy from the future with your new ally
Cell: CHARGE MY CHILDREN!!
Jiren: What-
Jiren: *gets swamped by Cell Jr.'s*
Cell: *laughs maniacally*
Lmao
lmao
it seems everyone has said "lmao"...as will I LMAO
lul
@@vibinfrog8038 same LMAO
Evil Cell: you’re unbearably naive
Good Cell: well… I was born yesterday
One thing you missed is that Cell can actually use the Spirit Bomb now!
He has access to the technique, but normally it'd harm him for being evil.
Since this Cell is good, he has no such restrictions!
Plus with Zamasu as an infinite energy core... that means he can make a literal Infinity Spirit Bomb. O_o
Infinite *GoDlY* plot device
Spirit Bomb spam anyone?
@@bluephantom277 that would be op
@@bluephantom277 No need to spam it when you can just... keep expanding it.
Hell, if Goku and Hercule used Shin to ask the people of Earth to lend their energy, if anything, that'd just make its _growth rate_ beyond any reasonable comprehension.
Hell, pretty much any threat could get torn to pieces in a matter of seconds by a planet-sized Spirit Bomb.
RAPID FIRE SPIRT BOMB
Frost: *uses needle on android*
Lapis: What are you doing?
Frost:*tries stabbing Even more*
Lapis:*beats Frost*
Lapis: are those needles in your arms... alright beating you now
Frost: *Pales* (if it's possible)
Bobby Strasburg he would probably go black
@@spammer44 Zarbon: *moans*
@@ProcyonDei bruh
@@shark2349 Frost: *stabbs at light speed*
1:00:00
Forbidden Duracell
(ps his official name should be Dura-Cell)
CALL IN EL GOHAN BLANCO, 100 POR CIENTO
I’m calling him Dura-Cell now.
Y E S
EL HERMANO
Goku: Teaches cell instant transmission
Cell Jr: Teleports Jiren into the null realm
... that would actually work granted they would still need the army but it ends up being faster
@@shark2349 Imagine Cell saying cell while creating Cell Jrs
Hahahaha
the void: *EATS JIREN*
Can't. Instant transmission has never shown being able to jump across dimensions. And even if it could you'd need to lock on to an adequate power signal to teleport to and there isn't any in the null realm >.< but he could have just used instant transmission to teleport everyone to the stands one by one lmfao 🤣
“Zamasu, I’m low on stamina. Time for your energy sucking”
“Yes Cell”
The part where Cell makes an army of Cell Jr.’s is pretty hilarious. But my only question is what happens to them after. It’s not like the multi form technique that makes temporary copies that re-merge after a while, each Cell Jr. is a free willed individual that’s there to stay.
Maybe they'll go and live on Monster Island again like normal.
Blue cell and green cell get shocked when meeting purple cell
Incredi-cell
Salad Saiyan
Pull up that spider men pointing at each other
Salad-Cell
*Incredicell!*
I'm just imagining Jiren's muffled screams of pure absolute rage as he's being shoved towards the edge by the cell jrs
this comment has just made that portion of the video funnier
How I imagine it in TFS:
Jiren: "I SWEAR TO THE SUPREME KAI AND THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION OF MY FUCKING UNIVERSE IF THESE LITTLE SHITS DON'T GET OFF ME-- [the muffled rage continues]"
I imagine just while underneath the mountain of cell jr's jiren just starts trying to throw haymakers and decks one Jr and send him flying out of the dog pile
@@shark2349 5tttttttttttttrtryytttyttytyyyyyy
@@BlueBolt5000 cell: yeah blah blah blah clog his eyes mouth and ears cell jrs and maybe blast him
Buu saga: exists
Salad sayain in every what if: I’m about to end this man’s whole story arc
WHat about what if gohan and goten were twins.
It lasted more than 1 episode so it counts
Richelle brooks I didn’t watch that one yet
The Lonely Mimikyu tf am i the only person who be respawning to people who replied to me on TH-cam a day later
Shut up
That sounds like a insult
Jiren: *getting swarmed by Cells Jrs*
*Cell Jrs all collectively asking if he got any games on his phones and seeing if he wants to see the do fortnite dances*
Oh god, they're more Gen Alpha than Kid Trunks.
In this timeline, Cell might just be the best paid employee at CapsuleCorp. Also in the original timeline, Gohan could not train because that would clash with the studying; but with Cell around, he can do both at the same time.
I can just see them chess boxing or cell giving gohan a quiz mid-battle
@@Zeoroark Basically the Krillin vs Chioutzu fight in OG Dragon Ball...
I’m sure this joke was done already but to sum up cell vs future cell:
Cell: You might know everything I’m going to do but that’s not going to help you since I know everything YOU’RE going to do! Strange isn’t it?!
green cell: whut
blue cell: HAHAHA
black and purple cell: *watches*
Such an interesting line. Way to profound for Sonic
So basically "you may outsmarted me, but I outsmarted your outsmarting!"
Green Cell:I am the Ultimate Lifeform!
Blue Cell:Whatever you say faker
@@yifengtoh7529 perfect lifeform*
My guess about Cell not being perfect from the get-go: time, and resources.
Gero probably had limited resources to build the infinite power engines in 17 and 18. Plus, Cell was still an embryo, so it wasn't like Gero could install such parts into him yet. Cell would take over a decade to fully mature, and besides, Gero might find some new DNA to use to tweak with Cell's genetic code further in the future.
I don't think that's the truth
Seems as good a reason as anything else. Toriyama was a very off the cuff writer with some editor issues, so sometimes we’re left trying to put together the pieces of something that doesn’t necessarily make sense when you think about it. A lack of time and resources would make sense to me.
@@Storyman09 i remember that was stated that Gero made Cell but he was kinda expensive to produce because he needed constant energy and would take years soo Gero made 19 and 17 and 18 and made them absorbable just in case meanwhile the lab continued to do Cell
The machine could absorb the androids for cell, if the z fighters would get too strong
Yeah this makes the most sense to me. Like, why would he not have given himself and Android 19 infinite energy as well? Why make himself and 19 weaker than 18 and 17, if not for the fact that he simple didn't have the resources. The man was living in a cave, he didn't have large quantities of funding.
I like that the Blue Cell still likes to troll his enemies to some extent.
Carrie yzh130 that’s the freeza in him
also geets
@@alexhernandez8765 who tf is geets
@@red_back5382 vegeta
Red_Back You are not a true fan if you don’t have any idea what “Geets” is short for? It’s short for “Vegeta”
Basically:
Reject Evil
Embrace Perfection
It's been a year, Salad, so you probably won't see this, but I actually know why Cell wasn't made perfect. It's because he WAS, but Toriyama's editor complained about his appearance, calling him an "ugly bug man" and saying they need a better looking villain, or else nobody will take him seriously. Toriyama mostly writes his stories on a chapter-by-chapter basis, he doesn't really have a huge overarching plan for anything. So he agreed, and improvised a transformation for Cell to undergo. Cell was never originally intended to change his appearance, he was already "perfect" from the start. The transformations were added by the editor. That doesn't make sense in the context of the universe, but that IS the reason. It's largely up to us to invent a reason for why Gero did this.
My headcanon is that the most advanced part of all three androids is their energy system or reactor that gives them infinite stamina: Gero didn't have enough of whatever he needed to make a large number of those things, so he compromised. He made three of them, and put one into 17, one into 18, and one into Cell. Cell gets stronger by taking reactors of 17 and 18 and adding them to his own. Gero invented the energy absorption mechanisms as an attempt to make the reactors unnecessary in the first place, and gave one of those to himself and another to 19: if an android could simply steal energy from their opponents, they could make the more advanced energy system unnecessary. 16 has a more primitive power source to support his almost entirely mechanical body, which is why he's outclassed by 17 and 18 and why Cell gains nothing from eating him. This is all just headcanon that I made up, but it makes a certain amount of sense.
Zemasu: exists, cell: aight imma drink you now
Cell: SUCCCCC
The Immortal Juice was consume
@@Pink_Noodle Mmm...kiwi-flavored...
XD
@@glacierwolf2155 Finally some good fucking food
Every what if:''We are gonna stop with Moro to wait for the arc to finish''
After Moro Arc:Every day a new video on every what if that isn't finished.
Darko Marković is it actually finished? I don’t think it is. Idk because he said when he finishes but if it is finished can you tell me where I can read it
Sta ima
@@sakuuyo1626 He said he would maybe continue when the Moro arc is finished 1:08:43. The point of my comment is making fun of him doing that in every what if that comes to that point.
moro is now unicron
@@mithmoonwalker Lol, things changed a lot.
Imagine tfs cell in this... He just starts singing anything you can do I can do perfect!
Imagine Cell singing his every line instead of saying it normally
3 cells singing
@@mithmoonwalker Cell Opera
@@lancetheking7524 cell dorado and cell zero: *join in*
we now have, green, blue, purple, black and golden cells
dbx cell: *powers up*
wait no make that DURACELL
Cell:Hey baldy
Jiren:What did you just call m-
Cell:Would you mind taking care of my children?
Jiren:Your what?
*proceeds to get trampled by cell jrs.*
My idea of why Cell wasn’t perfect is that he was “meant” to be the Plan B for the Androids. We know Gero had him created after 17 & 18 and specifically to absorb the twins then I assume he was the final plan for when they get out of control or if they ever did. He would then become perfect to show that his purpose was revealed.
that and maybe sick punishment you see gero probably knew already the androids wont obey him at full since they are people still not full machines so he created cell not only as a backup plan but as a twisted disgusting way to punish them if they betray him so yeah gero is one sick old motherfucker
He didn’t make him perfect because cell was his plan b.. if the androids betrayed him cell would get rid of them... making cell have a strong desire to be perfect, and cell needing the androids to become perfect. That was the perfect motivation for gero to install Into cell, also making cell stronger in the process
The motivation of cell is not to defend the doctor but to fill his stomach cell food is energy(lifeforce) . He wants to be perfect because the only way he can stop eating is by consuming the androids which gives him infinite energy
I realize that, but cell needs to absorb the androids to fulfill his purpose, Gero knew that, that’s why cell was his plan B
Cell was never his plan b to begin with cell was his plan A the whole time because he was his ultimate creation and why would a evil scientist collect cells from all the strongest beings on the planet(z fighters and others like freiza ) just to make a plan b think about it ,zero wanted only one thing to create the perfect being of destruction so he created cell and cell is unstable and hungry for power and he needs life energy limitlessly to maintain the body so he absorbed androids plain and simple androids were only created for cell not the other way around
Viz ddraig, it’s been stated multiple times that project cell was less important to gero, that’s why it took him so long to fully develop
If the androids were made for cell, cell would’ve been perfect in the first place
How would Evil Cell have found 17? He can’t detect his energy at all. The only reason why Cell found the androids in Canon was because of Piccolo’s huge fight with 17.
But they now have jobs and home addresses that Cell could use to track them down (like the first Terminator movie), where in the original they were just drifting from place to place.
Dr gero has probably in the basement a gadged cell absorbed which can detect the GPS position of the C17 and c18
Maybe he just has some good luck or maybe he can track the androids with a gps
luck (actually plot)
I remember that Cell once absorbed Krillin in one of the What If scenarios in the games, he got a whole new look so I'd think that this Cell would also get a new look.
I was just remembering that, I think he had a nightmare while he was waiting for the cell games or something like that
If I remember correctly, that was a scenario in the first Budokai game.
@@blindthrasher7293 Indeed. Budokai 1 had a few what if things.
My idea is Cell has to have his own Infinity Engines, but since Cell is a Side Project, Gero never got to adding his own to him.
Thus, 17 and 18 become important to Cell because of the IEs.
It's not so much 17 and 18, or Geros' Commands, Cell probably sees something is missing from the inside of him, and hopes to rectify it.
Like how Gero didn't want to destroy the world, The Docs Progamming is just so shoddy, someone who can code Cell in Ruby can do a better job.
You know What? With Krillin and Lazuli dating by the time Trunks comes back, maybe this leads to Marron being born earlier.
Thus We have a Trio of Trunks, Goten, and Marron running around and having fun.
So imagine Krillian pitching this idea to Bulma and then going on step further,,,
Krillian: Hey Bulma think you can reprogram these andriods to not be evil?
Bulma: It's programming, so yeah I can do that. So how many are we-
Krillian: About 7 and a incomplete Clown! Not sure if that one was supposed to be a joke. And one of those is kinda in a pod being created as a embryo!-
Bulma: What the F-
Krillian: - O and this one here is pretty cute can you program her also to be in love me!
*Bulma's eyes narrow*
Krillian: Went to far huh? It was the girl right?
Bulma: ...Just get the hell out of here... *rubs her eyes*
Bulma: I need some advil...
Wave Master good fucking job
Cell in background: perfect
Krillin*
what?
Android 13: Mighty kind of you ma'am.
I always thought that he needed the two perpetual energy generators in 17 and 18 to have enough energy to metamorphose into and maintain his perfect form (as seen when he de-morphed with the loss of 18) and Gero only had the money and rare materials to make two and use them to power his then known to be hard to control rebellious creations. In order to save on costs and to have the "PERFECT" backup plan, he redesigned cell to be created and activated upon the deactivation of a hypothetical wireless connection to the sub-lab's supercomputer with the purpose of absorbing them, attaining perfection, and killing Goku, like some overly complicated dead-man's switch.
Not really as he re-obtained his perfect form in canon after he blew up. He no longer had 18 but he still obtained it. I suspect that the androids were a shortcut and a backup plan on behalf of Gero. If he kept absorbing lifeforms he would've eventually turned into semi-perfect and then perfect form like some demented pokemon.
@@blackmark2899 When he blew up in canon, he grew stronger and his Ki increased. Maybe he was able to replace the Artificial Ki that was being used to maintain the Perfect form with his own Natural Ki
I got an idea for a new transformation for Cell:
Celestial Cell, a combination of SSJ God and Golden Frieza, except that instead of a metallic look like Frieza, Cell has a glassy, almost gemstone or jade-like appearance to his carapace.
Interesting concept.
I like Cell having a transformation
@@IronMaiden1164 he.. has 3 transformations..
@@zombieford a further transformation.
wait does cell have an ozaeu form
personally, i thought golden cell would be viable since he has Frieza's dna, and frieza can transform into golden.
And since cell has all the saiyans' cells, t would be even easier to achieve with zenkais and frieza's potential.
frieza didnt have golden and cell wouldnt've been training to obtain a golden form
I think it would be more interesting had Good Cell started out imperfect like the original, but since he's morally good he's neither obsessed with perfection nor out to absorb 17 & 18 or anyone else. Then, GC trains with the others and grows stronger before Bad Cell shows up and manages to absorb 17 & 18. Thus, we get Imperfect Cell Vs. Perfect Cell, and of course the latter crushes the former until GC trains in the Room of Spirit and Time, letting GC match BC.
At that point, things go more or less the same with Gohan going SS2 and obliterating BC perhaps with help from GC. The really interesting part is the Majin Arc and afterward. Good Cell doesn't want to absorb 17 & 18, but despite his training for 7 years eventually he has to and they let him in order to stand up to Majin Buu, who gets released. Then Good Cell becomes more than powerful enough to completely thrash Majin Buu, even as Super Buu.
Mr. Salad Saiyan. I think I know why Cell wasn’t made perfect right away
You see, Dr Gero was the head scientist ever since the red ribbon army was created. Dr Gero and Dr. Flappe created Android 8 (yes. Gero helped on creating Eighter) and after seeing Eighter becoming good, he feared that his other Android creations could fight back against him. After during creating 17 and 18, Gero made Cell as the ‘main project’, for since if ever 17 and 18 rebelled against Gero, Gero would have used Cell against them.
Or at least this is my theory
That makes alot of sense
What I thought, I thought cell would be a way to get rid of 18 and 17
The ending is stupidly hilarious. Keep up the good work.
I was tryna figure out what u meant and when i got to the end i laughed kinda hard
Just getting hugged by hundreds of cell jr's saying like KIIIII and then getting yeeted of the ring lol.
True
@@nellylouis2464 me to
no spoilers
I don't think cell would be immortal, but he'd both get a constant wnergy source to drain off of, AND a substantial power boost. I reckon even if zamasu escaped, that power boost would be permanently infused. Plus, the longer zamasu's trapped, the stronger cell gets
Uh, that's what happened in the video
@@divinesin6093 💀
Personally I’d have added Master Roshi to The mix that would’ve been Cell, Why him?: to integrate Roshi’s 300 or so years worth of combat experience, to then equal a Cell with no equal, because on top of his gifted experience, he’d be gaining experience from his own path so literally there wouldn’t be an opponent he couldn’t fell like a tree
The intros Salad Saiyan makes looks like a really good redesign of Future Gohan
KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU! KILLSONGOKU!
Bulma: Yeah, no **click**
BABABABIRD BIRD BIRD! BIRD IS THE WORD
Ah I see you are a fan of culture as well
I'm just not gonna mention that it was dr.briefs that said that
@@ZayahTheFool One, that's the joke. You could be wrong considering that Trunks isn't there yet to take up her time having her father pick up the slack.
She could have been the one to say it.
Two, 16 wasn't even awake yet to even garner his interest in birds in the first place.
Point being, don't be a passive aggressive party pooper.
A16 in fight: FOR DA BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRDS!!! >:o
@@SpartakTH ah I see youre a man of culture as well
Me: Yelling it’s Cell Black
Salad Saiyan: 17 Black
Also Me:
ngl i was like that too
EVERYBODIES BLACK
*Don’t shoot! This man is not black!*
@@tonkhk *take off my glasses* what
@GB Only Police get it ._. . . . . .
This story is basically Cell’s ascension to godhood
Edit: Cool name for this story. “The Sum of our Parts.”
*PERFECT*
*PERFECT*
Coooooooooooooooooooooooooool perfect
Lucas Leeds you have broke the chain what have you say for yourself
Or. Just put in dbza Android 17 quote “ so cool”
The idea of the cell juniors just makes me laugh a whole lot. That’s just too funny.
43:12 When you consider that he is a wild life park ranger, he probably deals with venomous critters on the regular
Is cell basically the protagonist in this what if?
Pretty much... I mean, it's Dragon Ball, where only the most OP characters get spotlight.
@@ProcyonDei what? Roshi had his own part of the tournament despite being weaker than goku
@@Not_Claptrap Yeah but tien got treated like shit, Yamaha wasn't even there, krillen got to do some stuff but nothing interesting or memorable, piccolo stuff was disappointing as usual, really the only case you could make besides roshi is 17
@@gamergamer7508 18 had some spot light, tien took down an annoying enemy, yamcha is just yamcha, and I cant make an excuse for krillin
@@Not_Claptrap Thats all tien got though,1 annoying enemy the rest of the cast could have taken down as well not to mention tien taking himself out in the process. But I will admit 18 getting a little bit of spotlight is cool. Still dosent make up for the person I forgot to mention:Piccolo. Seriously the guy cannot catch a break, he got cheated in the universe 6 arc, he pussied out in the buu saga tournament and he gets like what 1 boring ass fight? God damn
He didn't make cell perfect because he knew the risk if cell turned on him he would die and maybe even absorbed
Nope the doctor knew that he would be long dead anyway as you see the voice recording activates after the doctor death saying he is his ultimate creation etc
@@vizddraig oh sorry lol
Well dbz is old and we might have missed some key points here and there which others have caught so its not a big deal.
@@vizddraig OK thanks
@@Wirtz_Is_the_goat well here's an excuse: gero had to make him with a limited amount of tech and DNA, which means he may have not had enough technical parts and bio parts to make him perfect, and only later found a way using android 17 and 18's immense power being a way to break that wall on his power
Krillin : Kills old weak human being within seconds of meeting him
Also Krillin : Instead of killing these androids we were told would kill us, lets make them allies.
lol
Jonathan Aresse he thought 18 was hot 🤷🏽♂️
@Paine Central is he really a simp if It worked?
@Kasra Tayebi is he really a simp if It worked?
Idk, that weak old human was designing technology to rule over the world and shape it into his technocratic ideals.
@@cameronhoward7846 I had a thought:
If 18 was technically a teen before she was augmented, wouldn't it be illegal for Krillin to be in a relationship with her?
I do like the idea that Cell was a background backup plan. If 17 and 18 were completely out of control, Cell was designed to be able to absorb them, completely removing the threat of them, but as a scientist, this would also mean that Gero's greatest works weren't simply discarded. They would be repurposed, and Cell's perfection would thus also possibly be something he could hang over his creation's head to instil loyalty, even just for the time being. Cell was never made to be Perfect because he was never actually supposed to be used outside of a worst case scenario; the computer in Gero's sub lab was thus coded to complete Cell only if Gero was killed.
Frieza’s DNA should have made present Cell far stronger than future Cell because a little training goes a long way for frieza, ad in the Zenkais he’d be getting from the Saiyan DNA and it should have been no contest between the cells
True
10:06
Cell: *looks at goku* "....dad?"
Keegstar lol
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since this cell has gohan dna........ *this is canon*
When you made 17 black or just the zamasu taking lapis' body, you should have had future zamasu also take 17's body as well making two android 17's and instead of merging with potara earrings, they merge like GT and they become 'Merged 17' or basically making Super 17. This may sound dumb to you but I like this idea a lot😅
hah good idea man
Gohan: I have a family now i cant just leave earth
Goku: Never Stopped me
Underrated comment
Correct
Gohan: and you wounder why i treat piccolo more of a dad
@@cylesteasunrise3199 again tbf to goku he's been dead, grievously injured, or in hiding for half of his life
lol perfect
My biggest issue with your what if is it emplies Krillin would remember to use his Destructo Disk
Also, I just had an interesting thought...
If cell's constantly drawing on zamasu, & let's face it, even if he's immortal, the amount of energy cell requires for attacks vs. Zamasus power...is Zamasu even going to be able to remain conscious for more than a few moments to get his thoughts together?
As long as cell is fighting, zamasu is officially screwed in this scenario. Even if he tries to corrupt Cell from within, his immortality is going to be working overtime as is just to preserve his existence. This absorbtion fate I believe would be more akin to Buu absorbing someone, minus the personality traits, because since Zamasu is being drawn from, but never completely assimilated due to the immortality thing...
Yeah, realistically, this was, or should have just been a major beneficial power gain for Cell.
I guess there's some technicalities, like how fast does Zamasu regenerate if it's consistent. Like cell has to take a breath after so many attacks, even if it's just for a second, if he met a foe where he tried to attack consecutively.
Probably doesn't seem like a major deal, considering regeneration from an immortal wish is virtually instant, but as a certain time asassin could tell you, pretty much every second counts XD
I feel like the reason cell needs to become perfect is similar to the way that 13 powers up in the super android movie. He needs their energy reactors and didnt have enough time to make more, and since cell was a backup project, he would come out and take them from the androids should they have failed. Gero would probably have scavenged their remains for the reactors.
Android 13: Yeap... Th' doctor sure does like his creations absorbing each other.
android 15: does he have a fetish for dis for somethin'
i feel like cell would be unknowingly training Gohan for ultra instinct,quizzing him while fighting,forcing him to think of answers rather than his next move,getting his body to move without thinking about it as he would be thinking of something else
Cell meting cell should be like the Spider-Man meme.
Cell: WHAT IS 9 + 10
Gohan: isn't that 21
Cell: *gut punch* WRONG
I wwnna see somebody animate your cell jnrs vs jiren idea. That's pure comedy gold right there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jiren: So you must be Cell
Cell (from this what if): Well, if you know who I am then surely you must know of the perfect army
Jiren: The what now?
Cell: GO FORTH, MY CHILDREN!!!
An army of over 9000 Cell Jr’s suddenly appears and tramples a flabbergasted Jiren
Jiren (internal): THEY’RE SO DAMN CUTE, BUT THEY KEEP KICKING ME IN THE DICK!!!
@@AuracleOfBacon THAT JUST MADE IT FUNNIER LMAOOOOOO
@@AuracleOfBacon Cell, the master strategist. He knows everyone's weak points.
@@pietrocatalano4285the kid maker
With the way Cell was portrayed it was clear that he was not another android/cyborg but instead a genetically modifyed lifeform using genes from all the fighters to have the potential to be perfect. He needed sustenance to grow into that form though, as with about any species. He was born rather than built, as there likely wasn't anything strong enough to be used as a basis for a perfect being.
I htink the rest becomes clear once you think about issues with mechanical modifications on something that is still growing and how Cell's body is tuned to transormations, likely partially thanks to Freeza's DNA. He needed to mature first for a few things and using those unreliable androids as food seems like killing two birds with one stone.
Beerus: Hakais Buu's egg
Me: considering that the kai in buu is probably needed to stop Moro, well this timeline just went to shit.
Also since Kami is still the Guardian of Earth (which in turn means that the Dragon Balls are weaker), wouldn't that mean that Frieza (Freeza?) would be unable to be ressurected? There was an original timelimit of 1 year from the moment a person died an unnatural death.
I think they used that wish to make Kami younger and thus stronger.
I mean there's a Cell.
Cell could just absorb moro
@@balldeep69hardcoregamer50 Yes
I think the reason cell didnt start as perfect is because
1) he was the 3rd choice for final villain
2) his progression allowed for our heroes to have the time to do so themselves as because of 1 they needed a way to jack their power to combat cell and if he was perfect off the bat they'd of been Ramrodded
3) this allowed the z fighters to ally themselves with the androids in a sense with the common enemy of cell and a way for them to join the cast and not just purged from the story
Cell is really charismatic now that you mention that. He was really well written.
Maybe with cell there and having Nappa in his DNA, he revives Nappa and he becomes the super saiyan god and grows an affro.
then he stacks ssj4 and mui on top of it
@@mithmoonwalker not sure if ssj4 counts counts, tho mui yea
@@lancetheking7524 DONT MAKE ME GO EL ROJO
He doesn't have Raditz, Yamcha or Nappa's DNA.
@ijijiji 8759 exactly
I feel the cell juniors should've been green you know for the nice touch.
The reason Cell wasn't Perfect from the get go is, assumedly, energy.
He needed to drain energy from humans to survive and thrive, and 17 and 18 are infinite sources of energy, so they'd possibly be necessary to account for the energy consumption of his perfect form.
Gabriel Merlin wait so he needs TWO infinite energy sources? That doesn't make any sense cause if it's really infinite which it is as it was confirmed then he wouldn't need both androids so your theory is just wrong here
@@Catsrnice_
(Heavy headcanon ahead)
To be fair, Cell's Perfect form was so strong it mopped the floor with the legendary Super Sayian; a being of myth that was capable of defeating Frieza, who could destroy entire planets with a single blast. And Cell fought multiple of them without breaking a sweat! Just because they have "infinite" energy, doesn't mean they can exert it all at once, otherwise the Androids SHOULD have been completely unstoppable, since they could (in theory) have simple use a portion of their "infinite" energy to vaporize anyine they fought just by throwing a punch.
Cell transforms when he absorbs the Androids, because their "infinite" power isn't infinitely exertable. The Androids actually only have infinite power, in the sense that no matter what they do, they never get tired. Cell sustains himself by absorbing energy, which he then uses up. When he absorbs the Androids, his body now has a new (and never depleatable) source of energy, and due to the Frieza cells in his body, he transforms into a new form, because his body now has a source it can constantly pull from. His body has a constant energy level, so it can withstand using more power without the risk of running out. This is why once he becomes Semi-Perfect Cell, he no longer goes around absorbing people; he already has an infinite fuel source. Before, Imperfect Cell just went around eating entire cities instead of looking for the Androids. Why would he waste time absorbing humans when he could look for the Androids without risk of being caught by the Z Warriors? Because he needed a source of energy, and couldn't risk running out of power while looking for the Androids. Once he had the Androids absorbed, he didn't need to look for a food source. This is also why he had to "eat" the Androids instead of "drink" them, since their energy source wasn't biological, so he needed to incorporate them in a way that transfered their machinery instead of just biological matter. After all, what did Perfect Cell do before the Cell Games? Sat on his ass and did nothing.
@@Catsrnice_ i like to think that the infinite energy sources need organic components (16 was never said to have one correct me if i'm wrong) and that is why 17 and 18 are able to get stronger they are training to be able to produce not only faster but also more of it. it would explain why cell never got stronger beyond zenkai boosts as he's unable to train those sources once he got them (which would partially explain why he didn't train beyond arrogance) due to how his absorption ability works
My take on the androids infinite energy is that it’s only to their relative power level. You can only exert the energy as quickly as it’s produced, even if it’s endless it can only produce at a certain rate. Think of putting 1 battery in a device that needs 2, even if that battery never runs out it still won’t output enough power to power the device properly.
Cell has 2 androids in him with endless energy relative to their own power level, since his power is the combination of both the androids plus his own, their energy supply isn’t enough to replenish his as quickly as he can expel it in a fight. This explains why he can still get tired in fights, albeit he should certainly be able to recharge a lot quicker when taking a short rest.
It makes logical sense, I don’t think in reality it is this way because I don’t think they really thought about it so in depth. Would have made an interesting final battle with super perfect cell if he came back stronger but without 18s supply of energy he couldn’t sustain his power for long in a fight 🤷🏽♀️
I think the reason Cell wasn't made perfect was that he was intended to be the solution to the problem that Gero knew 17 and 18 would become. He wanted Goku and company to be taken out as soon as possible, so when he had the androids powerful enough that he believed they could do what he wanted, he couldn't wait to activate them. He knew they were rebellious, and that he wouldn't be able to control them (though, he may not have known they would kill him). He likely foresaw that, after they were finished doing what they were programmed to do, they would just do whatever they wanted, and it probably wouldn't be anything he would agree with. So he created Cell with a personality that he programmed completely, who would act entirely in-line with what he wanted. Having Cell be enhanced by the absorption of the 17 and 18 gave him extra incentive to rid the world of the androids as quickly as he could.
"Infinite zamasu engine" I don't know why but I laughed so hard when I heard that XD
Cell: Cell Jr.s use tackle!!!!!!
Jiren: da fuq
*The Cell Jr.s tackle Jiren like a betch*
It was super effective
Super effective..
*Critical*
16 in the island
16: HELLO NATURE
Birds locating birds
Birds targeted
Happy android 16 noises
dbza 16 would be especially happy
Devastator 21 *happy beep*
Take A Shot Every Time He Says "Cell"
you tryin to kill people?
It's a drinking game not suicide
@@Dwood777 imagine if you drunk that much alcohol
@@modelomegatyler I kinda couldn't, as I'd be dead
@@Dwood777 exactly
28:28 Piccolo: *tears of enjoyment and being proud*
5:20
Its possible that Gero had cell be imperfect as a sort of fail safe. In the first place i think he had a self destruct mechanism in all of his new androids which is why he was killed by androids 17 and 18. They did not want to be controlled so took advantage of Gero's pride in his creations being completely subservient to him so that he would lower his guard. In this case cell was made imperfect because he was a side project and a countermeasure in case android 17 and 18 needed to be put out of commission. Gero while prideful is smart. Its not to far out their that Android 17 and 18 were also meant to act as countermeasures for cell. With a self destruct implementation, Gero could destroy them if needed therefore preventing cell from reaching his 'perfect form'. For cell becoming perfect was the carrot while the stick was the fact that he could only 'evolve' if he absorbed both androids. If Gero controlled the androids he controlled cell and if the androids betrayed him then cell was there to end them. At this point, i dont think Gero cared much for death since he had already transferred his conscious to an android body and had multiple fail safes in place in case of his subsequent destruction or 'demise'. In fact Gero at this point pretty much fits the 'mad scientist' title and while he may have the smarts, that doesn't mean he is wise. In fact Gero could have easily been redeemed, but his desire for revenge and years of loneliness blinded him to following such a mutually destructive path.
I think doing a spotlight on a Gero Redemption story might be interesting, i always find it fascinating on how many what if's you can come up with. Great video.
I'm impressed that you wrote all this
I couldn't even finish it because I was lost
Beerus in 12 words:
The people are nice: I sleep
The food is nice: I eat
People annoy me: hikai
@@cylesteasunrise3199 *hakai*
Alternate Title: when cell become the main character
I subbed to u
@@iihamza7049 same
Toriama after gohan didn't work out as the mc: screw it, I'm making cell the main character, might have to rewrite that last saga tho, oh well
I always figured the reason Cell had to absorb the Androids to be perfect was because he needed both their infinite energy engines to fuel his perfect form.
This was my thought as well, and as for why he wasn't built with engines in him... it's probably because cell *had* to grow up. It wasn't possible for him to become so naturally strong without the 20 years of growing in a pod for him to fester.
@yogurtofthemultiverse2200 makes sense since cell had to grow out of his larva form to acctualy be strong enough to go after the androids
Cell: diamond sword
Enchanting table + lapis lazuli = enchanted cell
Funny that cell is teaching gohan
Plot twist, cell absorbs zamasu #17 and becomes evil. Starts mass producing cell juniors to kill all mortals.
no he wont use the dragon balls assuming this cell would be around goku gohan whis beerus bulmas influence the draon balls the suprme kais influence we know what the suprme kais had done to kid buu
My concern is that Zamasu would somehow be able to take control of Cell from within, considering the fact that he kinda became the sky when Trunks beat him originally.
NGL Cell should be much stronger. His potential is beyond Frieza's and Gohan's combined. (He's not in the mix, but Cell has more potential than Broly.)
I actually have a theory about why Cell started out Imperfect: remember how the Infinite Energy Androids were so uncontrollable? Gero might've wanted the benefits without the rebellion. Cell never really runs out of energy once he becomes Perfect, only ever really gets winded for a minute or two whenever he gets halfway blown the F up, and then he's 100% fine.
Alternatively, there's a good chance those damn engines are pricey as hell to build and Gero couldn't make more while staying hidden, so this was the compromise.
The Cell Jr. army was too funny😂🤣
I could also see the cell jr army being slaughter like wheat before a blade.
similar to ants 1 or 2 is easy to get rid of 500 RUN
LOL, i was confused when he said it, then i imagined it, so i laughed
I can imagine the cell jr “body guards” with sunglasses and with their arms crossed. (LOL)
As well as dog piling jiren
Krillin: Murders Dr. Gero 💿
Piccolo: Dude, Wtf?!? 😮
Did I just watched an one hour long dragon ball what if video
Yes, yes you have
Cell in ToP legit playing that "10.000 of this thing vs 1 of that" simulator againts Jiren
Capsule Corp Cell supremacy!
Also, 21:38:
Present Cell: "You might know everything I'm going to do, but that's not going to help you since *I* know everything *you're* going to do! Strange, isn't it!?"
Also #2:
1:06:59 is my favorite part in the entire video as it's really hilarious imagining Jiren getting swarmed by Cell Jr's!
29:47 you gave me a heart attack with that audio
I love these what ifs. I wonder what would have happened if Jiren had gut punched Cell and he spit out Zamasu. Also would Cell look different after absorbing Zamasu? Infinite God Ki too? Not an opponent you wanna fight
Noval Bledsoe but he drank them. He absorbed 17/18 and changed. This scenario he said he absorbed him not just drank him. So couldn’t that make him change just like 17/18?
All I see is Kyle Anderson comments.
Unicor Tilney fieri riverboat #~£;{^
Well hello
*oh shi*
Good brotheR KARL ANDERSON
1:06:41 Imagine your fighting in a tournament and then a literally country of cell juniors come after you
This what if was awesome! I especially liked your Cell impression very nice
Idea: What if the Z fighters could fight together? (Like holy and vegetable fighting freiza like a combo)
Auto correct is a cruel mistress
I would have to argue that although Cell absorbed someone who is immortal, that would not translate into an infinite energy source. His power level would function like anyone else and thus be limited. Even Beerus as powerful as he is and is a god has finite energy. The only benefit from having an immortal swallowed up like Cell having would possibly be a massive boost to his existing regenerative ability. His healing factor would probably go x100 and instantly heal any damage he takes. And being his powers are more rooted in science then sorcery, I would have to say if he was blasted to oblivion it would result in the immortal being released and free again. And the ability to regenerate any damage without spending his energy to do it would be a massive boon in combat.
15:04 - Okay good. So Yamcha still goes to train in the Gym. That's all I wanted to know. Not that he needs any real training anyway, he's God tier.
Wolf Fang Fist Kamehameha by an Ultra Instinct Yamcha is scary
I summon a Saibaman.
SAIBAMAN USE SELF DESTRUCT!
"Zamasu's immortal how do we defeat him?"
"Screw it, I'mma eat 'im."
They'd become evil like they were in the future. The reason the real timeline Androids are somewhat good people is cause Gero never had the chance to reprogram them to be psychopathic
Cell: CHARGE MY CHILDREN
Jiren: What the fu.....
Jiren: gets swamped by millions of Cell Jr.'s
Cell: laughs maniacally while spawning more Cell Jr.'s
Jiren (internal): THEY’RE SO DAMN CUTE, BUT DAMMIT, WHY DO THEY KEEP KICKING ME IN THE DICK???