Gutsy effort there Holic✊.. thanks muito. I've watched the game x 3 now & did wonder wtf for but really wanted to get a good handle where it went south & tbh I keep coming back to the same things.. 1. Jarome Hughes, imo without him we get the W. He kicks, passes, tackles & never stops yapping. Execution was nigh perfect 2. Their bench, it brought more punch & had more impact. 3. Our execution.. (i put lot of this down to their line speed).. our passes were too often marginally off the mark forcing guys to reach, turn, slow down. These need to be on point so we hit hard at speed, don't lose momentum. Finally the officiating. Glad you picked up on the 10m offsides which you don't really see unless you're in the ground. Been happening for yrs, I gave up bitching about it as it got me only abuse & happy to see fans picking up on such cos here's the thing.. games like these are so brutal & don't take alot to swing. To think we were only 8 pts down & still a possibility until their last says something eh & the guys should be f'n proud. Storms repeated infringing that 1st 14mins deserved a bin yet they hounded Sutton relentlessly who was happy to engage yet he got prickly with Tohu early 2nd 1/2 for respectively querying a decision. IDK how Liam in the bunker ascertained Ford stripped the ball because it wasn't & fact is Grant had stomped on his hand just prior in a deliberate dog act while Katoa kept standing up in the scrum to slow us down while Grant didn't pack down at all for their 2 v 2 try from a scrum on 24m. The markers not square penalty at 18m was pedantic & inconsistent & imo the start of all the dubious call bs. Rule states you can't touch a player in the air yet Katoa hits Adam twice in the farcical act of competing/ stripping/ scoring. Not a word, Adam feet were not on terra firma at any stage. The NO TRY Egan obstruction penalty was BS.. he'd played the ball & was nowhere near obstructing while going back 2 plays for the TMM hi shot to rule out Jazz try was farcical. The Monts penalty for a strip could easily have been adjudged a loose carry.. watch again & I go as far to say that if we'd been carrying it probably would've been judged a loose carry. That led to his bin for obstruction. Grant does same thing on 72m & not a squeak. So re why we lost.. zero 50-50's.. to put it politely. Rock on next Saturday.. 2pm Gold Coast. The rebound will be awesome. Chins up till then cos we're coming 💪
I would never have considered watching a lose again before I starting doing this social media stuff. I'm glad I do now because it shows you, more often than not we are way better than it seems live with all the emotion that comes with it. I think it would be interesting for the captain and coach to have 1hour with all the refs at the beginning, mid season and at the end of the season to share concerns and gain clarity from the refs. They should be able to show video evidence to support issues like the offside from the Storm or other serial issues they have to deal with. It would need to be done with a mediator or something so it didn't get out of hand. It annoys me that they refs are such a protected species. And don't get me wrong, this is not about just going in and bad mouthing them, but more of a chance to gain clarity and share specific concerns that are ignored live.
The think is, a lot of it comes down to luck too. We always seem to lose players when we come up against the storm. We never seem to have a full bench for the whole game... no way to control that shit, but damn it's annoying. Guess its how a lot of fans have felt about their teams playing the ABs over the years... until around 2019 after which we have come back to the pack.
@@thewarriorholic Good point re the All Blacks & funny thing is they collaborate & share a lot of resources, ideas & intel. They're similar creatures.. tough, hard & uncompromising buggers.
Things that stood out for me were as follows. Hughes was outstanding and his bombs were always on the mark, creating run chase pressure. Ford was unlucky getting penalized for tackling Hughes after a kick. Nothing Ford could do and Hughes milked it. Led to the first try and momentum changed. At 20-18, we were looking to get on top and Jazz scored but deemed a double knock on and our scrum. However a Storm penalty a few plays back against TMM. Never seen play called back like that. Usually the offending player is put on report. If we start reviewing every play and going back it will destroy the game like rugby. If we had scored then, the momentum. would have swung towards us. We gave away a few more penalties after that and Storm scored. With time running out and needing to score we absolutely needed to get the ball back on 5th play kick however no one chased and put pressure on. Bizarre tactics and maybe no thought out plan in that scenario. Just in reply to one comment you made about AFB, at 14-0, AFB was very vocal when the team gathered in a circle so maybe your comments about him not being there, might be slightly off the mark.
We have Hughes so much more time to kick than they gave out kickers. That’s the key if you can get away with jumping early it gives the halves way less time. Hughes was running 10-15m before he kicked, made it way easier for them to put pressure on him in the catcher. Our guys had no time at all. Not saying AFB isn’t trying, just feel he’s not in the same space he was this time last year. Still delivering more than most props ever would but just expected him to dominate more than he did. Unfair expectations maybe?
@@thewarriorholic You are right about their players running up so quickly. I missed mentioning that. A key point for sure. Regarding AFB, I'm sure he could give more but you could say that about almost every one of our players if looking at the stats. Maybe the opposition found a way to limit his runs.
Storm were better - but how about that refereeing huh? What a thoroughly excellent and totally neutral performance there by the guy with the whistle and the bunker team analyzing all the important details at one frame per second. Totally even handed and consistent throughout. Love to see it! 🤬
The thing is, people are wound up by the so called blatant mistakes.. but for me, it’s the lack of balls to punish the Storm for their intentional infringements throughout the game that really gets up me. They cheat in every set on D but rarely get called
@@thewarriorholic Gotta say I think the W's are in good hands with Webster. You could tell what he wanted to say in the press conference. He was alluding to it. But ever the cool, calm professional - he's just like - we move on, we learn from our mistakes, and we get better - because that's all we can do. Bring on the Titans.
I’m so sad, because we could’ve been sitting 8th on the ladder right now, instead we’ve gone down to 12th. We deserved to get that win back after the match against them in March. And your favourite Warrior Jazz had a huge game last night!
I feel like we looked more physically fit than the Storm, pushing them back in defence and line speed. So the fact they were offside 80mins and we still applied pressure in attack/defence is something good from it
Thought we started strong feel we should have taken the second penalty kick to go up 16 nil keep the possession going and Melbourne under pressure. pompey was unlucky to be stripped after that catch however Melbourne's tries the rest of the first half came from soft defence. Agree capewell should have been used at centre at cht should have come into the game earlier.
Yeah that's part of being a sports fan eh. Being and ABs fan growing up gave many Kiwis a false sense of reality with their winning percentage eh. In reality there are always going to be disappointing loses, but they make wins like that one over the Pahs all the more enjoyable
Man how shit. I feel like a lot of blame is being unfairly placed on SJ. I also think that if we hadn’t been sin binned we very well could have won. It’s not as bad as people think
Yeah I felt like he was struggling watching live but he wasn’t bad at all when I watched the reply. He’ll get better, but it’s a very unfamiliar role they had him playing eh.
I knew we introuber when I see Sutton is the ref,I think next time play against storm kick early like you said they offside alot, the change I think is to draw the line and make Temari at 7 and Sj at 6 stop any confusing on attack
I mentioned it before but Webby has not got the balance right in the team and if he doesn't fix it then it is unlikely that the Warriors will play finals or most certainly won't beat the top teams in finals football. Webby needs to inject more younger players to lift the energy of the team. Tuapiki, Leiataua, Moala Graham-Taufa, Demitric Sifakula, Tom Ale, Jacob Laban, Leka Halasima, Tanner Stowers-Smith and Zyon Maiu'u. At least three of those guys need to be playing every single week. The team needs their energy, lift and x-factor. No ifs or buts. These old heads don't have it to win consistently every week. One immediate change I would make is Tuaupiki to Fullback and CNK to 6. It brings speed from the back and a more impactful CNK in the halves hitting the line regularly. You have to make peace that one of SJ or TMM has to go. Great coaches will make that call to win games and win comps.
Unfortunately Zyon and Tanner are injured. Leka won’t get his debut until next year IMO. I’d say Jacob comes in this week for Capewell, probably Ale too with Jackson back on an edge. I’d give Sifakula a couple more games in cup get his fitness up then bring him into the bench. I’d say he could have the biggest impact out of all the young fellas. I don’t mind the idea of bringing Taine in. Maybe even play CNK at center RTS on the wing and Taine at the back. Need his speed. But not sure how they will go with the back.
Yeah I feel it was an interesting play, it would be very challenging for SJ to sit back and be subservient given he's always been a dominant half. But Like I've said, I don't claim to have the footy iq or the insight into the overall game plan to say with absolute confidence that it was the wrong call. There were a number of call I share refer to as odd...in this game. Like Walker at center...not sure why that happened.
@@thewarriorholic Yea my League IQ aint that great but over the last decade I have just wondered many many times what our coaches are thinking and trying to achieve. Pasikala is a raw very young winger in cup but he has something we lack -real top end speed with a step and brutal fend.Thinking outside the square I think he would be worth a risk for a couple of games.
@@jackohere1878 yeah I agree with Pasikala, I thought he had something special when I saw him in SG Ball and for him to be able to deliver straight away in Cup at his age shows he does. Shame Sio Kali got injured, he has something too. I would love Webby to put out one very left field pick this week.
@@thewarriorholic I don;t even think it is a huge risk.Knights have bought two new full backs in after Pongo went down both very young and raw but both have the speed and talent to worry oppositions.Both have been a big success. More than a couple of Pasikala's runs in cup last week were of a quality none of our wingers can produce.
Great review again bro, Im glad you got a review out even after a loss. I know we have to say the "better team" won, and fair play to the storm they capitalized off the back of our mistakes, but if those calls weren't as bad as they were I honestly think we would've won. I think we were the better team for most of the game. The worst call to me was when we were disallowed a try - Fair enough, but to penalize us two or three tackles earlier to TMM's "head high", when TMM got low for the tackle and hit the guy straight on the chest WTF LOL It was the worst officiating I've ever seen personally and imo it borderlined on cheating. And Storm were cheating is really subtle ways (fair play to them, they only do what they get away with) they're such a good side they don't need help. Just call the games down the middle is all we ask. In saying that, there was some massive positives imo. I can tell you 100% im still mad proud of the boys effort, even though we lost. I reckon they were trying their guts out right up until the final whistle. We go again next week 🔥🔥
Yeah well sad. At the end of COVID all I asked was to have a team of players who played with heart for 80 week in week out. we definitely have that now eh. So proud but still sad for them that they didn't get it done. We will break those Storms one day!
Great review yet again. i too often hoped for support runners when we got a line break. i think it's so often missing in our attack. i also have a question, it seems to me we stand very deep on attack compared to other teams , or is that my imagination. you understand the game much better than me, could you explain why they might stand so deep? it also seemed that we were trying to force things when things kept going against us, perhaps the frustration at wanting the win so badly? just some random thoughts . go the mighty Warriors! Up the Wahs!!!
Yeah we have been standing deep, it’s one way to try and deal with a rushing or in the Storms case an off side D line. The ABs use that at times. I agree we do tend to push things when we’re chasing a game. I feel like we lack 1-2 genuine game breakers with genuine speed who can create tries from 50m out. We only seem to be able to score from plays in the oppositions red zone.
Thanks for explaining things more clearly. Hope you have a fantastic week and we all enjoy a conclusive warriors win this weekend. Go the Mighty Warriors 👏🏻🤩🎉 Up the Wahs 🎆
To be honest I think the difference was the moments where we lapsed in concentration at vital moments, where they had the polish to ice them. We’ll get better hopefully tighten up in our weak areas. The boys put in the effort. I feel that with our depth improving down the track for some players, just doing their jobs might not be enough, especially if they make defensive errors and get dropped to cup for a wake up call. Chins up well come back strong. Up the wahs….oh and as far as speed, the young fella pasikala looks promising in cup.
Honestly, Hughes was the difference eh. I put him right up there with Stacy as the best half backs we have produced. SJ had more x factor in his day but as pure halfbacks go, Hughes is absolutely class. But he's also a grub which I hate.
@@thewarriorholic yeah true on both points. As we establish our depth and club playing culture at all levels more in years to come those refinements some of the tops teams seem to have when it counts will improve for us. I really don’t know how we managed to even compete in the past with no feeder teams. When we had the Vulcan’s and the Juniors, a lot went on to bigger things. So glad we have Webby and the Warriors exec support
@@tonybjjlife68 yeah the true benefit will be seen in 5-7 years time eh. When guys like Kaawyn Patterson and Lennox Tuiloma are hitting their straps, and guys like Zyon, Sifakula, Leka and Laban are 100 games in. It will take time but eventually we will have a conveyer belt of talent coming through
Our last play options , our defence was great in the middle but the edges were questionable. Almost fell off my bed bro when you were reading out those stats kicking metres , run metres etc. the ref was harsh tho ain't no questioning that and the bench rotation was poor asf.
@@jerrybow8779 I’d say it’s mental rather than fitness. I feel we lack the on field leadership to switch up the game plan or turn the tide at times. I’m hoping JFH can bring that next year.
He’ll start this week with Mitch 18th man in Origin. Let’s see what he can deliver playing 80. As much as I love Marata and Mitch on the edges, I would still love them rotating into prop when AFB goes off the maintain the momentum.. we shall see I guess
Old bellyache presser worth a listen.. a massive driver/ motivation for them is the Michael Moore trophy. Suspect possibly we're not as tuned into his significance as much.. maybe?
Hey bro. The stats were with us - but not the execution. Still too many missed tackles. Discipline with 2 guys in the bin bad. Refereeing consistency bad. Offside not pinged. Gamesmanship in slowing us down in the ruck, but they got away with it. So we need to start doing the same. Dylan Walker tough bugger. I'm sad but not pissed off like earlier soft-cheese performances. Niukore played a massive game (my bad). I'm biased against Pompey. I'd drop him if Johnson can take the kicks.
I just don't think SJ and TMM are a great match, both 7's really as someone else pointed out. Liking the backrow combo of Barnett/Niukore, Walker playing better than Tohu, missing Metcalf's speed, and as you point out, I think we need a speed threat out wide to be a real contender (as seen by our wingers chasing Meaney looked pedestrian). Bring on a few more young guys, probably shouldn't have changed a winning team from the week before, let the OG's earn their way back.
I feel like everyone is just thinking that about TMM because of what Bloke in a Bar said. I don’t think anyone genuinely thought TMM was a 7 until about 3 weeks ago. As I’ve mentioned before, SJ and TMM combined well at the start of 2023.. so they can do it… but who knows if they actually will? Webby doesn’t have long to find out eh.
Hard to do a review after what was an extremely disappointing game bro but to be real it showed where we are really at. With the hype and big crowd etc Storm treated this game as a final playing a level above where they have been over last month or so. Your obviously getting into the close circle around Warriors that some podcasters are in so I hope it doesn't effect your judgement / critique too much. First half told it all for me.Up by 14 with Storm in some trouble then Storm got in our red zone three times for three tries which is simply unacceptable then the Katoa break to put Meaney in was a killer blow.After that the second half was always going to be a bridge too far for us no matter the injuries and sin bins or the refs odd calls. Obviously TMM was playing 7 with SJ at 6.I don't "get" playing two halfbacks as the balance seldom works and should be a last resort thing.Like you say Webster knows far more than us but no matter I would love to see SJ /CHT as our halves combo until Metcalf returns.I am worried if we stay with TMM / SJ combo we will miss the finals. Bellyache knows all the refs intricacies etc.He knows with Sutton they can get away with far more than other refs so uses that to his advantage = intelligent coaching. Seeing Katoa who will be an elite backrower for a decade in Storm colors still hurts but it is what it is thanks to Nathan Brown. There is a large log jam forming for last three or four spots in finals so we need to fight hard every game for the two comp points or we miss the finals. UP DA WAHS
Don’t worry brother, I’m my own man so I’m never going to be changing my approach because I have connected with a few players. I always believe in pretty balanced in my views and I never make anything personal so I’d be disappointed if they even took offense to my content… but who knows in this world. Yeah it was definitely disappointing but it does bring us back to the reality we are still 2-3 players from being a genuine contender. I think we can still beat any team on our day, but right now we need to deliver at 105% to beat the big teams, they can beat us playing at 90-95% because they have X factor that can turn a game. Interesting how the drums keep hearing about Dylan Brown coming to the Warriors. I have heard it’s BS but who knows?
@@thewarriorholic Dylan Brown -really? He is a five eight and when he has had to play Halfback with Moses out he has looked lost-He will cost huge $ as well . Mets at 7 Brown at 6 maybe - but I doubt it i see Capewell has made Origin -I would LOVE Slater who has a League IQ few possess to really tell what he sees in Capewell these days not his past but right now. Cancel Reply
@@jackohere1878 yeah I’m curious to see what Capewell delivers in Origin and hope it sparks him to deliver for us. It does seem odd we would be looking at Brown who’s a 6 when we have a couple of good one now.. but I don’t really believe the story
You have persuaded me to watch the game again mate... but your point about Storm being offside every play. Why the hell are they allowed to get away with it? They're cheating every POTB. Or at least, why don't we copy them to even it out if the ref is going to look the other way? Gordon Tallis said on NRL 360 the other day that players know what they can get away with for certain refs, so clearly with Grant Atkins it's being offside. But why don't we do it too? I think at core the Storm is a great team, but they have an extra layer of gamesmanship/cheating wrapped around their tactics/strategy, which makes them a grub team if I'm honest. (Not talking about Hughes diving - SJ has done that, or even milking, we do that too - but blatant cheating or lying in the ruck which they're also known for...it ruins the game).
The thing is if you do it as much as they do, they know the refs simply won’t ping them every time. It’s a calculation they make, and they push the limit as far as they can. Unfortunately they have been doing it so long the refs have just grown accustomed to it and don’t notice it… whereas for teams like us it stands out like dogs balls and they ping straight away. To be honest, this was the first time I’ve seen them live and the offside is way more noticeable than on tv. The biggest impact game on the run meters for our outside backs they were so far down on run meters it was crazy. And the pressure on our kickers vs how much time Hughes had before he had to kick. They are seriously fit too, there line speed is insane
Happy with the performance, disappointed but i seen positive signs from the team. I also noticed the kiwi players who play for aussie teams always play well when they come to mt smart, interesting. Thanks for the video mate
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thanks, really appreciate your work
Likewise, thank, I appreciate the support.
Tough to do review after a loss, good on you Z
Up the Wahs 😊
Yeah sure is, but I hope it brings some balance
Gutsy effort there Holic✊.. thanks muito. I've watched the game x 3 now & did wonder wtf for but really wanted to get a good handle where it went south & tbh I keep coming back to the same things.. 1. Jarome Hughes, imo without him we get the W. He kicks, passes, tackles & never stops yapping. Execution was nigh perfect 2. Their bench, it brought more punch & had more impact. 3. Our execution.. (i put lot of this down to their line speed).. our passes were too often marginally off the mark forcing guys to reach, turn, slow down. These need to be on point so we hit hard at speed, don't lose momentum. Finally the officiating. Glad you picked up on the 10m offsides which you don't really see unless you're in the ground. Been happening for yrs, I gave up bitching about it as it got me only abuse & happy to see fans picking up on such cos here's the thing.. games like these are so brutal & don't take alot to swing. To think we were only 8 pts down & still a possibility until their last says something eh & the guys should be f'n proud. Storms repeated infringing that 1st 14mins deserved a bin yet they hounded Sutton relentlessly who was happy to engage yet he got prickly with Tohu early 2nd 1/2 for respectively querying a decision. IDK how Liam in the bunker ascertained Ford stripped the ball because it wasn't & fact is Grant had stomped on his hand just prior in a deliberate dog act while Katoa kept standing up in the scrum to slow us down while Grant didn't pack down at all for their 2 v 2 try from a scrum on 24m. The markers not square penalty at 18m was pedantic & inconsistent & imo the start of all the dubious call bs. Rule states you can't touch a player in the air yet Katoa hits Adam twice in the farcical act of competing/ stripping/ scoring. Not a word, Adam feet were not on terra firma at any stage. The NO TRY Egan obstruction penalty was BS.. he'd played the ball & was nowhere near obstructing while going back 2 plays for the TMM hi shot to rule out Jazz try was farcical. The Monts penalty for a strip could easily have been adjudged a loose carry.. watch again & I go as far to say that if we'd been carrying it probably would've been judged a loose carry. That led to his bin for obstruction. Grant does same thing on 72m & not a squeak. So re why we lost.. zero 50-50's.. to put it politely. Rock on next Saturday.. 2pm Gold Coast. The rebound will be awesome. Chins up till then cos we're coming 💪
This is depressing to read mate... I think the odds of beating a team like the Storm when the reffing is like this are very low. It is farcical.
I would never have considered watching a lose again before I starting doing this social media stuff. I'm glad I do now because it shows you, more often than not we are way better than it seems live with all the emotion that comes with it. I think it would be interesting for the captain and coach to have 1hour with all the refs at the beginning, mid season and at the end of the season to share concerns and gain clarity from the refs. They should be able to show video evidence to support issues like the offside from the Storm or other serial issues they have to deal with. It would need to be done with a mediator or something so it didn't get out of hand. It annoys me that they refs are such a protected species. And don't get me wrong, this is not about just going in and bad mouthing them, but more of a chance to gain clarity and share specific concerns that are ignored live.
The think is, a lot of it comes down to luck too. We always seem to lose players when we come up against the storm. We never seem to have a full bench for the whole game... no way to control that shit, but damn it's annoying. Guess its how a lot of fans have felt about their teams playing the ABs over the years... until around 2019 after which we have come back to the pack.
@@thewarriorholic Good point re the All Blacks & funny thing is they collaborate & share a lot of resources, ideas & intel. They're similar creatures.. tough, hard & uncompromising buggers.
Things that stood out for me were as follows. Hughes was outstanding and his bombs were always on the mark, creating run chase pressure.
Ford was unlucky getting penalized for tackling Hughes after a kick. Nothing Ford could do and Hughes milked it. Led to the first try and momentum changed.
At 20-18, we were looking to get on top and Jazz scored but deemed a double knock on and our scrum. However a Storm penalty a few plays back against TMM. Never seen play called back like that. Usually the offending player is put on report. If we start reviewing every play and going back it will destroy the game like rugby. If we had scored then, the momentum. would have swung towards us. We gave away a few more penalties after that and Storm scored.
With time running out and needing to score we absolutely needed to get the ball back on 5th play kick however no one chased and put pressure on. Bizarre tactics and maybe no thought out plan in that scenario.
Just in reply to one comment you made about AFB, at 14-0, AFB was very vocal when the team gathered in a circle so maybe your comments about him not being there, might be slightly off the mark.
We have Hughes so much more time to kick than they gave out kickers. That’s the key if you can get away with jumping early it gives the halves way less time. Hughes was running 10-15m before he kicked, made it way easier for them to put pressure on him in the catcher. Our guys had no time at all.
Not saying AFB isn’t trying, just feel he’s not in the same space he was this time last year. Still delivering more than most props ever would but just expected him to dominate more than he did. Unfair expectations maybe?
@@thewarriorholic You are right about their players running up so quickly. I missed mentioning that. A key point for sure.
Regarding AFB, I'm sure he could give more but you could say that about almost every one of our players if looking at the stats. Maybe the opposition found a way to limit his runs.
Stay strong brother onto the next ⬆️🔜
Yeah bro, bring on the Tins! have to smash them and get some revenge from the last outing.. Still all in, always
Storm were better - but how about that refereeing huh? What a thoroughly excellent and totally neutral performance there by the guy with the whistle and the bunker team analyzing all the important details at one frame per second. Totally even handed and consistent throughout. Love to see it! 🤬
The thing is, people are wound up by the so called blatant mistakes.. but for me, it’s the lack of balls to punish the Storm for their intentional infringements throughout the game that really gets up me. They cheat in every set on D but rarely get called
@@thewarriorholic Gotta say I think the W's are in good hands with Webster. You could tell what he wanted to say in the press conference. He was alluding to it. But ever the cool, calm professional - he's just like - we move on, we learn from our mistakes, and we get better - because that's all we can do. Bring on the Titans.
Let's just take the positives and hope the boys make improvements and onto the Titans.
Yeah that’s all we can do really. And there were plenty.. some of the hits on d were 🔥
I’m so sad, because we could’ve been sitting 8th on the ladder right now, instead we’ve gone down to 12th. We deserved to get that win back after the match against them in March. And your favourite Warrior Jazz had a huge game last night!
Yeah so many results went in our favor too.. have to get it next week eh. Jazz was hearty as ever
Jahrome was the difference last night. But both teams played great a great rainy weather game.
Completely outplayed our 7
He has rugby league smarts.
Yeah agree. He annoys me but he’s bloody good
Hughes had so much time it was embarrassing. We basically did not put any pressure on him for last 60 minutes of the game.
I feel like we looked more physically fit than the Storm, pushing them back in defence and line speed. So the fact they were offside 80mins and we still applied pressure in attack/defence is something good from it
Nah bro, watching them live the Storms line speed just never stopped. But we sure matched them physically in D
Katoa was ahead of the kicker in scoring storm's first try.
@@michaelnoonan.640 I thought so too
Yep that was my take too initially but froze it later & had a good look.. for mine he was just fractionally onside@@michaelnoonan.640
Thought we started strong feel we should have taken the second penalty kick to go up 16 nil keep the possession going and Melbourne under pressure.
pompey was unlucky to be stripped after that catch however Melbourne's tries the rest of the first half came from soft defence. Agree capewell should have been used at centre at cht should have come into the game earlier.
Would really love to know why they went with DWalks at center for so long being injured.. guys we’ll never know
Ah well never mind hopefully it's not a bad omen better luck next game bro go the mighty warriors 💪
Yeah that's part of being a sports fan eh. Being and ABs fan growing up gave many Kiwis a false sense of reality with their winning percentage eh. In reality there are always going to be disappointing loses, but they make wins like that one over the Pahs all the more enjoyable
Was hard to take that loss😕
Yeah especially being there live 🤦🏻♂️
Man how shit. I feel like a lot of blame is being unfairly placed on SJ. I also think that if we hadn’t been sin binned we very well could have won. It’s not as bad as people think
Yeah I felt like he was struggling watching live but he wasn’t bad at all when I watched the reply. He’ll get better, but it’s a very unfamiliar role they had him playing eh.
SJ always gets the blame when we lose - it reached the point of being totally ridiculous a long while ago but it is what it is.
@@jackohere1878 he’s either doing too much or too little, there is no winning
I knew we introuber when I see Sutton is the ref,I think next time play against storm kick early like you said they offside alot, the change I think is to draw the line and make Temari at 7 and Sj at 6 stop any confusing on attack
Yeah I was the same when I saw ol mate Sutton was reffing. We’ve lost 9 games to the Storm under him app
I mentioned it before but Webby has not got the balance right in the team and if he doesn't fix it then it is unlikely that the Warriors will play finals or most certainly won't beat the top teams in finals football. Webby needs to inject more younger players to lift the energy of the team. Tuapiki, Leiataua, Moala Graham-Taufa, Demitric Sifakula, Tom Ale, Jacob Laban, Leka Halasima, Tanner Stowers-Smith and Zyon Maiu'u.
At least three of those guys need to be playing every single week. The team needs their energy, lift and x-factor. No ifs or buts. These old heads don't have it to win consistently every week.
One immediate change I would make is Tuaupiki to Fullback and CNK to 6. It brings speed from the back and a more impactful CNK in the halves hitting the line regularly. You have to make peace that one of SJ or TMM has to go. Great coaches will make that call to win games and win comps.
Unfortunately Zyon and Tanner are injured. Leka won’t get his debut until next year IMO. I’d say Jacob comes in this week for Capewell, probably Ale too with Jackson back on an edge.
I’d give Sifakula a couple more games in cup get his fitness up then bring him into the bench. I’d say he could have the biggest impact out of all the young fellas.
I don’t mind the idea of bringing Taine in. Maybe even play CNK at center RTS on the wing and Taine at the back. Need his speed. But not sure how they will go with the back.
It’s cause we played 2 number 7s on the field , 1 played , 1 sat back
Need a 6 and a 7
Agree not the only reason we lost but certainly a major one
Yeah I feel it was an interesting play, it would be very challenging for SJ to sit back and be subservient given he's always been a dominant half. But Like I've said, I don't claim to have the footy iq or the insight into the overall game plan to say with absolute confidence that it was the wrong call. There were a number of call I share refer to as odd...in this game. Like Walker at center...not sure why that happened.
@@thewarriorholic Yea my League IQ aint that great but over the last decade I have just wondered many many times what our coaches are thinking and trying to achieve.
Pasikala is a raw very young winger in cup but he has something we lack -real top end speed with a step and brutal fend.Thinking outside the square I think he would be worth a risk for a couple of games.
@@jackohere1878 yeah I agree with Pasikala, I thought he had something special when I saw him in SG Ball and for him to be able to deliver straight away in Cup at his age shows he does. Shame Sio Kali got injured, he has something too. I would love Webby to put out one very left field pick this week.
@@thewarriorholic I don;t even think it is a huge risk.Knights have bought two new full backs in after Pongo went down both very young and raw but both have the speed and talent to worry oppositions.Both have been a big success.
More than a couple of Pasikala's runs in cup last week were of a quality none of our wingers can produce.
Great review again bro, Im glad you got a review out even after a loss.
I know we have to say the "better team" won, and fair play to the storm they capitalized off the back of our mistakes, but if those calls weren't as bad as they were I honestly think we would've won. I think we were the better team for most of the game.
The worst call to me was when we were disallowed a try - Fair enough, but to penalize us two or three tackles earlier to TMM's "head high", when TMM got low for the tackle and hit the guy straight on the chest WTF LOL It was the worst officiating I've ever seen personally and imo it borderlined on cheating. And Storm were cheating is really subtle ways (fair play to them, they only do what they get away with) they're such a good side they don't need help. Just call the games down the middle is all we ask.
In saying that, there was some massive positives imo. I can tell you 100% im still mad proud of the boys effort, even though we lost. I reckon they were trying their guts out right up until the final whistle. We go again next week 🔥🔥
Yeah well sad. At the end of COVID all I asked was to have a team of players who played with heart for 80 week in week out. we definitely have that now eh. So proud but still sad for them that they didn't get it done. We will break those Storms one day!
Will DWZ lose some game days? The tackle put him on report, perhaps it was accidental, but it didn't look good.
Yeah at least a week which is fair for that stupid play eh
Great review yet again. i too often hoped for support runners when we got a line break. i think it's so often missing in our attack. i also have a question, it seems to me we stand very deep on attack compared to other teams , or is that my imagination. you understand the game much better than me, could you explain why they might stand so deep?
it also seemed that we were trying to force things when things kept going against us, perhaps the frustration at wanting the win so badly? just some random thoughts . go the mighty Warriors! Up the Wahs!!!
Yeah we have been standing deep, it’s one way to try and deal with a rushing or in the Storms case an off side D line. The ABs use that at times. I agree we do tend to push things when we’re chasing a game. I feel like we lack 1-2 genuine game breakers with genuine speed who can create tries from 50m out. We only seem to be able to score from plays in the oppositions red zone.
Thanks for explaining things more clearly. Hope you have a fantastic week and we all enjoy a conclusive warriors win this weekend. Go the Mighty Warriors 👏🏻🤩🎉 Up the Wahs 🎆
@@helenelley6627 likewise, have a great week and let’s hope the boys fire fully against the Tins
To be honest I think the difference was the moments where we lapsed in concentration at vital moments, where they had the polish to ice them. We’ll get better hopefully tighten up in our weak areas. The boys put in the effort. I feel that with our depth improving down the track for some players, just doing their jobs might not be enough, especially if they make defensive errors and get dropped to cup for a wake up call. Chins up well come back strong. Up the wahs….oh and as far as speed, the young fella pasikala looks promising in cup.
Honestly, Hughes was the difference eh. I put him right up there with Stacy as the best half backs we have produced. SJ had more x factor in his day but as pure halfbacks go, Hughes is absolutely class. But he's also a grub which I hate.
@@thewarriorholic yeah true on both points. As we establish our depth and club playing culture at all levels more in years to come those refinements some of the tops teams seem to have when it counts will improve for us. I really don’t know how we managed to even compete in the past with no feeder teams. When we had the Vulcan’s and the Juniors, a lot went on to bigger things. So glad we have Webby and the Warriors exec support
@@tonybjjlife68 yeah the true benefit will be seen in 5-7 years time eh. When guys like Kaawyn Patterson and Lennox Tuiloma are hitting their straps, and guys like Zyon, Sifakula, Leka and Laban are 100 games in.
It will take time but eventually we will have a conveyer belt of talent coming through
Our last play options , our defence was great in the middle but the edges were questionable. Almost fell off my bed bro when you were reading out those stats kicking metres , run metres etc. the ref was harsh tho ain't no questioning that and the bench rotation was poor asf.
Yeah I had to tripping check the kicking stats.. it didn’t feel that bad watching it live eh. Shit happens thought, we go again this week eh
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How come we are so unfit? It been the same all year. When the pressure goes on we give up simple penalty’s because it’s the easy option
We aren't unfit, we're fitter than most, but the Storms are next level. To come back from all that D they had to do was crazy.
@@thewarriorholic but we’ve done it almost every game this year? There’s gotta be a reason for it🤷🏾♂️
@@jerrybow8779 I’d say it’s mental rather than fitness. I feel we lack the on field leadership to switch up the game plan or turn the tide at times. I’m hoping JFH can bring that next year.
Something needs to be done with capewell
He’ll start this week with Mitch 18th man in Origin. Let’s see what he can deliver playing 80. As much as I love Marata and Mitch on the edges, I would still love them rotating into prop when AFB goes off the maintain the momentum.. we shall see I guess
Bottom line Melbourne Storm too good, overall I'm very happy with our effort of our team, looking forward to the Titans game. Keep moving UP DAH WAHS
Yeah I’m pretty much the same. We weren’t far off but still not quite there. We should have too much for the Tins if we are any chance this year
Old bellyache presser worth a listen.. a massive driver/ motivation for them is the Michael Moore trophy. Suspect possibly we're not as tuned into his significance as much.. maybe?
Nah not at all. I have never heard it mentioned by the Warriors or the fans
Hey bro. The stats were with us - but not the execution. Still too many missed tackles. Discipline with 2 guys in the bin bad. Refereeing consistency bad. Offside not pinged. Gamesmanship in slowing us down in the ruck, but they got away with it. So we need to start doing the same. Dylan Walker tough bugger. I'm sad but not pissed off like earlier soft-cheese performances. Niukore played a massive game (my bad). I'm biased against Pompey. I'd drop him if Johnson can take the kicks.
Thanks for your thoughts. Some good points. Dylan is so tough mentally. To continue to re injure his ankles every week but still plays on.. crazy.
I just don't think SJ and TMM are a great match, both 7's really as someone else pointed out. Liking the backrow combo of Barnett/Niukore, Walker playing better than Tohu, missing Metcalf's speed, and as you point out, I think we need a speed threat out wide to be a real contender (as seen by our wingers chasing Meaney looked pedestrian). Bring on a few more young guys, probably shouldn't have changed a winning team from the week before, let the OG's earn their way back.
I feel like everyone is just thinking that about TMM because of what Bloke in a Bar said. I don’t think anyone genuinely thought TMM was a 7 until about 3 weeks ago. As I’ve mentioned before, SJ and TMM combined well at the start of 2023.. so they can do it… but who knows if they actually will? Webby doesn’t have long to find out eh.
@@thewarriorholic True, Webby may have to make the tough decisions sooner rather than later, aka Billy Slater re Qld team...
Hard to do a review after what was an extremely disappointing game bro but to be real it showed where we are really at.
With the hype and big crowd etc Storm treated this game as a final playing a level above where they have been over last month or so.
Your obviously getting into the close circle around Warriors that some podcasters are in so I hope it doesn't effect your judgement / critique too much.
First half told it all for me.Up by 14 with Storm in some trouble then Storm got in our red zone three times for three tries which is simply unacceptable then the Katoa break to put Meaney in was a killer blow.After that the second half was always going to be a bridge too far for us no matter the injuries and sin bins or the refs odd calls.
Obviously TMM was playing 7 with SJ at 6.I don't "get" playing two halfbacks as the balance seldom works and should be a last resort thing.Like you say Webster knows far more than us but no matter I would love to see SJ /CHT as our halves combo until Metcalf returns.I am worried if we stay with TMM / SJ combo we will miss the finals.
Bellyache knows all the refs intricacies etc.He knows with Sutton they can get away with far more than other refs so uses that to his advantage = intelligent coaching.
Seeing Katoa who will be an elite backrower for a decade in Storm colors still hurts but it is what it is thanks to Nathan Brown.
There is a large log jam forming for last three or four spots in finals so we need to fight hard every game for the two comp points or we miss the finals.
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Don’t worry brother, I’m my own man so I’m never going to be changing my approach because I have connected with a few players.
I always believe in pretty balanced in my views and I never make anything personal so I’d be disappointed if they even took offense to my content… but who knows in this world.
Yeah it was definitely disappointing but it does bring us back to the reality we are still 2-3 players from being a genuine contender. I think we can still beat any team on our day, but right now we need to deliver at 105% to beat the big teams, they can beat us playing at 90-95% because they have X factor that can turn a game.
Interesting how the drums keep hearing about Dylan Brown coming to the Warriors. I have heard it’s BS but who knows?
@@thewarriorholic Dylan Brown -really?
He is a five eight and when he has had to play Halfback with Moses out he has looked lost-He will cost huge $ as well .
Mets at 7 Brown at 6 maybe - but I doubt it
i see Capewell has made Origin -I would LOVE Slater who has a League IQ few possess to really tell what he sees in Capewell these days not his past but right now.
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@@jackohere1878 yeah I’m curious to see what Capewell delivers in Origin and hope it sparks him to deliver for us.
It does seem odd we would be looking at Brown who’s a 6 when we have a couple of good one now.. but I don’t really believe the story
You have persuaded me to watch the game again mate... but your point about Storm being offside every play. Why the hell are they allowed to get away with it? They're cheating every POTB. Or at least, why don't we copy them to even it out if the ref is going to look the other way? Gordon Tallis said on NRL 360 the other day that players know what they can get away with for certain refs, so clearly with Grant Atkins it's being offside. But why don't we do it too? I think at core the Storm is a great team, but they have an extra layer of gamesmanship/cheating wrapped around their tactics/strategy, which makes them a grub team if I'm honest. (Not talking about Hughes diving - SJ has done that, or even milking, we do that too - but blatant cheating or lying in the ruck which they're also known for...it ruins the game).
The thing is if you do it as much as they do, they know the refs simply won’t ping them every time.
It’s a calculation they make, and they push the limit as far as they can.
Unfortunately they have been doing it so long the refs have just grown accustomed to it and don’t notice it… whereas for teams like us it stands out like dogs balls and they ping straight away.
To be honest, this was the first time I’ve seen them live and the offside is way more noticeable than on tv.
The biggest impact game on the run meters for our outside backs they were so far down on run meters it was crazy. And the pressure on our kickers vs how much time Hughes had before he had to kick.
They are seriously fit too, there line speed is insane
Happy with the performance, disappointed but i seen positive signs from the team. I also noticed the kiwi players who play for aussie teams always play well when they come to mt smart, interesting. Thanks for the video mate
Yeah especially ex Warriors players like Eli eh. Wish we’d never lost him. Imagine him under Webby… thanks for the support 🙏🏻❤️💙💚