This gun looks like a swiss engineer was dragged by his ankles to design a "simple" gun, and he undermined that goal every step of the way. its whiplash, the gun.
"Cheap out gun"... Other countries: Wood screws and cut off bar stock as a cocking handle The Swiss: Kept the serialized screws and use locking screws. I think the Swiss have d different definition of "economized" than everyone else.
i think that's the difference between swiss and japaneese engineering, where the swiss start at the top and reduce it until it still meets the requrements the japaneese start with a product that meets them and then they see how can they improve the product aswell as the manufacturing process
Nothing like a “blemished” full AR15 pistol from Palmetto State Armory for only $500-550 👍 they’re always solid awesome guns. Highly recommend as a first buy.
Exists all over: “we want a multi-million dollar security program but can only spend $500k”. That’s almost a direct quote. Answer: “I’m sure you do, good luck!”
@@c1ph3rpunk I know it's a movie, but in Jurassic Park John Hammond repeatedly says, "Spared no expense.", yet he hired one guy to design, implement, and manage his entire computer system. 🤣
personally i see the folding mag as wasted resources, since not including it would make the gun simpler, even cheaper, and the storage size of the gun isn't affected too much in reality since you can still just stuff it loose between the barrel in any form of container you'd ship these in. that and the adjustable windage front sight block with a diagonal dove tail, with a weapon like this i think if you're far enough away to be worrying about windage you're being a bit optimistic. those two changes in machining would probably reduce the unit cost quite a bit. also a cast receiver could potentially reduce labor on making these, since wood can't be cast and has to be worked by hand to fit each and every gun a lot more then slight filing would be on a close enough cast receiver
"cheap" for the swiss is not the same as "cheap" for every one else. We said we wanted something cheap! Well yes, we took out 2 screws and 1.piece of metal, anything more and it would just be too vulgar.
i got it: its actually a gem of hidden ingenuity a la swiss knife - you take a grip off and you got a survival axe, mag well is a bottle opener etc etc
According to what I could look up on this weapon, even with SIG trying to cheapo the gun it still was of superb quality and still expensive to produce. I just find it funny when they try to budget a design it still ends up of higher quality than the standard.
I initially thought more than that, but calculations show that surprisingly, the Swiss guns might've actually been not that expensive. Was able to find the Finnish procurement costs, in 1940 the MKMS in 9mm was priced at about 380 Swiss franks. The exchange rate at that time is hard to find and verify plus adjust for wartime inflation, but in 1945 it was 4.3CHF for $1, so $88 per a more sophisticated gun, the cheaper version like the MP48 would've probably cut about 30-40% of the cost, so we can place it at about $50 per gun. For comparison, M1921 Thompson was well over $200, and the cheapest M1 Thompson got to was about $45. The "Grease gun" was about 15 bucks, so nope, not 10, only about 3 M3A1s. BTW. Thanks for giving me the idea of how to entertain myself on the Internet for a good half an hour :3
@@davydovua I know that as production ramped up, unit cost went down.would be interesting to see Ithacas mid 50's contract to see what unit cost was. One thing nice about the Swiss gun is the replaceable firing pin. The M3 had to replace the entire bolt, which was about $2.
The folks at Morphy's: "So why does the MKPS have to stay on your lap for the entire video when it's not even about it?" Ian: "Shh, just let me have this."
@@scareraven9669 in a America the machine gun has to have been manufactured and registered before 1986, and there are limited quantities of those avalible. So they go for quite a high price plus a bunch of red tape regulations.
Holy cow. Adjustable windage front sight, four elevation rear sight, serialized locking screws, beautifully nested wire stock. I imagine those four parts alone were more expensive than a whole Sten.
@@Jreb1865 Sten gun are quickly discarded by the Brits after WW2, and quickly replaced by Sterling SMG, which are excellent open-bolt SMG IMO. Sten are cheap and easy to mass produce, but the magazine are terrible and the Brits know it too. They just don't replace it during wartime as they need lots of guns to fight the Germans.
Even when they "cheapen out" they still make a beautiful gun, with a great finish, great quality over all! So yeah, me want :) (but can't have...German gun laws prohibit fully automatic weapons in civilian hands unless you are a bodyguard or something like that, then the company you work for might be allowed such guns!)...great vid, thanks Ian :)
Suomi KP-31: "Hold my recoil spring" Edit; I explain this lame joke: The Suomi is also a nightmare to field strip. When I did it on mine, my hair turned grey when I tried to get the recoil spring back in place. I will never do that again!
I greatly appreciate Ian's work over the years, I ts has brought be so much interesting history and mechanics. I really wish he was able to show how the progressive trigger worked on this model, There are many types of trigger semi auto disconnects and I love to see how they work. Thank you Ian
This is 100% the engineer being told to cut bits off his masterpiece. Its like asking him to cut bits off his wife.. Because this thing is many things, but not nearly anyway where near "dead cheap" like a sten
To be fair, Sten gun are designed when UK were pretty desperate for any guns at all. Although, they do reject S&W Light Rifle, because the gun is flawed and too expensive for mass production.
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 The Sten was also designed so any dingus with diagrams and a machine shop can churn the things out. You can literally buy a metal billet on ebay that comes wrapped in the diagram for the cuts and holes you need to make to turn it into a Sten receiver.
This gun is very endearing to me, quality work all around, just less of it than SIG would usually want. Then I saw the polymer stocked variant (older FG video on the SIG 310)... That one does not spark joy.
That's actually a really nice design for the times. Looks like a decent compact SMG and probably would have been perfect as a personal defense weapon for logistics.
Great review! Really enjoy seeing such history! Also glad you have time to continue these great reviews, and time to do things with Inrange TV, and pursue all your competitions! Keep up all your great content!
I started watching and was unsure, strange thoughts and feelings running through my mind. What is happening, why do I feel happy and almost sad at the same time? Why is it that when Ian says "Sig" during this video my mind immediately begins to doubt? I've heard Ian say Sig dozens, maybe hundreds of times, but never felt like this before. At the end it all became clear. When Ian said "polymer" I realized that what I was feeling was love, young love, and the thought of this little wooden stocked beauty dressed in polymer like a cheap hussy made me feel very protective. If only I could have her she would always be in wood, beautiful wood, and always look like this. Just like one of my spearguns. But different. And cooler. I like it. Very different for Sig, but you can appreciate the quality by the choices made to produce it "cheaper", yet it still has an attention to detail that makes it classy. I'm going to look this one up, even though I already know it's way out of my price range, at least if I want to put fuel in the truck for the next year. Damn it.
Getting a gun THIS simple out of Sig must've been like pulling teeth: it's still oddly beautiful and looks so well put together. Can you imagine the emotional damage you could inflict on a Sig engineer if you showed them a later pattern of a Sten SMG?
I would get more use out a two position rear sight, close and far. 50yard/100 yard. Maybe a large aperture, then if the light is good enough, a flip up smaller aperture for longer range.
@@burnerheinz No, it's 100% German. Although Hayek did pitch the original idea, Daimler-Benz designed the prototypes and provide most of the funding, and when they couldn't agree about the drivetrain, Daimler-Benz bought out SMH completely before production even began. It's a straight-up Mercedes, always was.
Strange gun for sure, and considering it was developed on the cheap, I am super impressed by how well cared for this piece is. Very clean, very well maintained and it received a lot of love.
1:50 that receiver in the picture looks cast. Casting is much cheaper and less strong than forging. 3:43 The upper one in the picture looks forged and machined, the bottom crudely (for Switzerland!) cast.
Oh whow, even fieldstripping this thing is hard work... the development of the pin fixed receivers must have been a godsent to soldiers all around the world... especially when it's captive pins.
"What's the cheapest gun you've got? Not in this case. I mean the cheapest piece of worthless crap you've got in this miserable store." -The Quick and the Dead.
A "cheap" SMG brought to you by the country that makes the finish watches in the world. Some how I don't see 'Swiss and cheap' being the same as 'china and cheap'.
In the British Infantry the SMG has has always been a secondary weapon a bit like the american M1 carbine. This gun would have been great for tank crews,Medics, signalers , cooks and others. As a medic I had to carry an SA80 which was a pain in the neck when trying to treat or evacuate casualties.Was sad to say goodbye to my Sterling.
Thank you for another very informative video, my friend. I always enjoy learning of more unusual weapons and the developmental history behind them. Apparently, I somewhat appear to be the odd man out as I find the MP48 very intriguing and desirable. But I have always enjoyed collecting odd and unusual items. I would certainly enjoy seeing how effective this particular smg would prove to be in field. On a final note, I would like to know the price point which SIG was able to reach in regards to the production cost for this particular smg. I would love to have a greater understanding as to what the Swiss considered to be an affordable cost for an smg. 🤔🤔 Thanks again for taking the time to research these amazing weapons and giving us the unvarnished truth regarding their performance and workmanship. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Have a great week, my friend! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Ok, I was expecting something along the lines of "cheap for the swiss is still hella expensive" but the "tell them u want it cheaper and simpler but 4 times in a row" thing made me *_LMFAO!_*
Ceramic cabonite is set in a high tolerance mould by ultra sonics. Bakalite carbon fiber chopped strand & ceramic microball goo. Most decent weapons . But ideal for this swiss one. The barrel is checked for tolerance & honed as required as with all parts giving a very quick cheap & effective durable machine. - combustion motor 1/2 price 1/2 time & lasts 3x longer.
There's something hilarious about how all the work needed to add a safety was done, but no safety was added. It just makes it feel like someone gave up halfway through design and said, "fuck it, you want cheaper, no safety, here you go!"
This gun looks like a swiss engineer was dragged by his ankles to design a "simple" gun, and he undermined that goal every step of the way. its whiplash, the gun.
The sights are better than on some battle rifles.
Sounds like something out of Elbonia as well.
Swiss engineering + malicious compliance.
@@thetalesofdaneandco
I dunno, this doesn't look nearly janky and trashy enough to be Elbonian.
@@thetalesofdaneandco The disturbing lack of speed holes and awkward grip angle makes this waaaay too conservative for Elbonia...
The key takeaway is that the MKPS has likely been on Ian's lap for the entire day of filming
And he lovingly strokes it and whispers to it in tiny squeaky voices and gives it all kinds of cute animal names
It’s his emotional support MPKS
If I had one, I'd have it on my lap!
Jesus' baby.
Lol 👍👍that's Ian
"Cheap out gun"...
Other countries: Wood screws and cut off bar stock as a cocking handle
The Swiss: Kept the serialized screws and use locking screws.
I think the Swiss have d different definition of "economized" than everyone else.
Economized if the cheapest option was gucci vs dior
A cup of coffee cost 8-10 dollars in Switzerland - ‘cheap’ means something different there.
This is the same country where "knife" means knife + everything else needed to live
@@NapoleonGelignite 4$, but i get your point
drooling
SIG engineers, being Swiss, must have needed therapy after designing that simple a gun.
How does someone make such an abomination yet with so much quality and class?
Tons of trial and error 👍🏻
My mother has been asked this alot.
Dedication. And stubbornness.
"With style, mon ami, with style."
i think that's the difference between swiss and japaneese engineering, where the swiss start at the top and reduce it until it still meets the requrements the japaneese start with a product that meets them and then they see how can they improve the product aswell as the manufacturing process
I actually like the simplicity of the "reduced cost" firearms, provided they still function well.
agreed, theres a beauty in utilitarian stuff
That's what I was thinking. It's not particularly elegant but there's no reason it shouldn't work well.
Not sure why, but I have a weak spot for simple/reduced-cost smg's...
Nothing like a “blemished” full AR15 pistol from Palmetto State Armory for only $500-550 👍 they’re always solid awesome guns. Highly recommend as a first buy.
@@mattandrews8528 "Blemished" just means it already looks like what it would look like anyway after a couple of range sessions.
"You can see they didn't even bother to finish machine the outside" I wonder how much it hurt the SIG workers to let it leave the factory like that?
twitching
like getting punched in the soul every time. I bet they are glad it wasn't a huge success so they didn't have to make a lot of them.
The union almost called a strike over that.
I think they stole the guns for sale when the machinists were at lunch.
I sympathize with the SIG engineers that got worn down into designing this from the MKPS and MKMS.
Anyway, they did a great job.
As someone who has done freelance graphic design work, I sympathize "do this but cheaper yet the same quality."
Exists all over: “we want a multi-million dollar security program but can only spend $500k”.
That’s almost a direct quote.
Answer: “I’m sure you do, good luck!”
@@c1ph3rpunk
I know it's a movie, but in Jurassic Park John Hammond repeatedly says, "Spared no expense.", yet he hired one guy to design, implement, and manage his entire computer system. 🤣
@@notahotshot #truestory ;-)
@@notahotshot And there was just one guy supervising the dinosaurs. Phil Tippett. If only Ingen had given him some help.
@@Stevie-J I always pray that they don't choose fast and good. That's my least favorite combination.
I like the folding mag feature. For a "cheap" SMG it's still a long way from the STEN. Nice gun, though.
personally i see the folding mag as wasted resources, since not including it would make the gun simpler, even cheaper, and the storage size of the gun isn't affected too much in reality since you can still just stuff it loose between the barrel in any form of container you'd ship these in. that and the adjustable windage front sight block with a diagonal dove tail, with a weapon like this i think if you're far enough away to be worrying about windage you're being a bit optimistic. those two changes in machining would probably reduce the unit cost quite a bit. also a cast receiver could potentially reduce labor on making these, since wood can't be cast and has to be worked by hand to fit each and every gun a lot more then slight filing would be on a close enough cast receiver
@@Adierit They're Swiss, I'm sure it hurt them simplifying it this much! 😁
"cheap" for the swiss is not the same as "cheap" for every one else.
We said we wanted something cheap! Well yes, we took out 2 screws and 1.piece of metal, anything more and it would just be too vulgar.
@@Adierit Who says 'cheaper' is even a word in Swiss vocabulary. (:
The folding mag well did it for me too
that is easily the nicest looking "budget" gun I have ever seen :3
Mp48: I’m cheaper now!
Sten: that’s cute
The Sten is
"Oh fuck, the Germans are coming!"
In gun form
i got it: its actually a gem of hidden ingenuity a la swiss knife - you take a grip off and you got a survival axe, mag well is a bottle opener etc etc
According to what I could look up on this weapon, even with SIG trying to cheapo the gun it still was of superb quality and still expensive to produce.
I just find it funny when they try to budget a design it still ends up of higher quality than the standard.
Closer, but could probably have 10 M3A1 grease guns to every one of these.
I initially thought more than that, but calculations show that surprisingly, the Swiss guns might've actually been not that expensive. Was able to find the Finnish procurement costs, in 1940 the MKMS in 9mm was priced at about 380 Swiss franks. The exchange rate at that time is hard to find and verify plus adjust for wartime inflation, but in 1945 it was 4.3CHF for $1, so $88 per a more sophisticated gun, the cheaper version like the MP48 would've probably cut about 30-40% of the cost, so we can place it at about $50 per gun. For comparison, M1921 Thompson was well over $200, and the cheapest M1 Thompson got to was about $45. The "Grease gun" was about 15 bucks, so nope, not 10, only about 3 M3A1s.
BTW. Thanks for giving me the idea of how to entertain myself on the Internet for a good half an hour :3
@@davydovua I know that as production ramped up, unit cost went down.would be interesting to see Ithacas mid 50's contract to see what unit cost was.
One thing nice about the Swiss gun is the replaceable firing pin. The M3 had to replace the entire bolt, which was about $2.
@@davydovua Interesting stuff! Thanks for taking the time to run and share your calculations.
SIG: A company that has failed many times for the only allowable reason to fail.. "It's too good. We need something worse!"
I love these episodes where I see the thumbnail and go "wtf is that?"
Less finished yes but still beautifully made to a high standard.
Yeah even when they cheap out the product still has that classic, ageless hardwood furniture. Classy!
The folks at Morphy's: "So why does the MKPS have to stay on your lap for the entire video when it's not even about it?"
Ian: "Shh, just let me have this."
I don't know why but I love open bolt smgs from the 1930s-1990s. If machineguns ever become legal I would have a huge collection of tube guns...
In America, can’t you have a machine gun as long as you do enough paperwork and stuff? Or are you from a country with stricter gun laws?
@@scareraven9669 in a America the machine gun has to have been manufactured and registered before 1986, and there are limited quantities of those avalible.
So they go for quite a high price plus a bunch of red tape regulations.
@@scareraven9669 Well, I guess I could buy one for a ridiculous amount of money and delay my savings for retirement/emergency
Don’t worry, if I become president, I’ll legalize machine guns.
"SIG Cheaps Out". Still bougie.
These sig folding magazine designs are so cool lol.
Best part of these designs.
I hope we see a range video with this beautiful abomination tomorrow.
Folding guns are always a treat!
The folding magazine as a safety is great.
Holy cow. Adjustable windage front sight, four elevation rear sight, serialized locking screws, beautifully nested wire stock.
I imagine those four parts alone were more expensive than a whole Sten.
And yet the Sten was a success...
@@Jreb1865 Sten gun are quickly discarded by the Brits after WW2, and quickly replaced by Sterling SMG, which are excellent open-bolt SMG IMO. Sten are cheap and easy to mass produce, but the magazine are terrible and the Brits know it too. They just don't replace it during wartime as they need lots of guns to fight the Germans.
this one of the most aesthtiaclly interesting submachine gun I've seen on this channel
The gun might have been seen in those days as "cheap" but compared to today its quality of craftsmanship is amazingly executed
The MAT 49 looks uncannily similar. Do you know if the French arsenals would have bought a few of these for trials?
Even when they "cheapen out" they still make a beautiful gun, with a great finish, great quality over all! So yeah, me want :) (but can't have...German gun laws prohibit fully automatic weapons in civilian hands unless you are a bodyguard or something like that, then the company you work for might be allowed such guns!)...great vid, thanks Ian :)
Totally agree, that wooden pistol grip is a nice touch.
Yeah that gun looks really good
semi auto convert is possible in germany? we do this in italy
I feel you brother I wanna have an functioning mp40 sooo bad
Nah germans shouldn't be allowed to have guns
Absolute nightmare to field strip.
Suomi KP-31:
"Hold my recoil spring"
Edit; I explain this lame joke:
The Suomi is also a nightmare to field strip. When I did it on mine, my hair turned grey when I tried to get the recoil spring back in place. I will never do that again!
That was the first thing I thought as well! I can't believe I had to scroll this far through the comments to find someone else who thought that.
I greatly appreciate Ian's work over the years, I ts has brought be so much interesting history and mechanics. I really wish he was able to show how the progressive trigger worked on this model, There are many types of trigger semi auto disconnects and I love to see how they work. Thank you Ian
I have an Irish coffee in front of me and I pick my phone up to check the time and Ian is here with another random smg
Perfecting and over-engineering old technology after obsolescence - classic SIG.
*Heartfelt American Story:* My Sister's Keeper
*Heartfelt Swiss story:* My Screw's Seralised Keeper Screw.
It's like a goofy looking version of an MP40, I love it. It's got a lot of charm and character it.
@@FlymanMS an smg you can feel good about liking
That is a lovely chunky gun.
Yes, it certainly is!
One of the coolest sub guns i have ever seen.
@Frisca-28🔞⤵️ some Turkish village traditional music lyric trash and prozzies for sale??? SOUNDS LIKE A LOVELY DAY OOT
you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
This is 100% the engineer being told to cut bits off his masterpiece. Its like asking him to cut bits off his wife.. Because this thing is many things, but not nearly anyway where near "dead cheap" like a sten
To be fair, Sten gun are designed when UK were pretty desperate for any guns at all. Although, they do reject S&W Light Rifle, because the gun is flawed and too expensive for mass production.
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 The Sten was also designed so any dingus with diagrams and a machine shop can churn the things out. You can literally buy a metal billet on ebay that comes wrapped in the diagram for the cuts and holes you need to make to turn it into a Sten receiver.
This gun is very endearing to me, quality work all around, just less of it than SIG would usually want.
Then I saw the polymer stocked variant (older FG video on the SIG 310)... That one does not spark joy.
That's actually a really nice design for the times. Looks like a decent compact SMG and probably would have been perfect as a personal defense weapon for logistics.
1940s SMGs... so many lessons learned.
Great review! Really enjoy seeing such history! Also glad you have time to continue these great reviews, and time to do things with Inrange TV, and pursue all your competitions! Keep up all your great content!
Even cheaped out it looks nicely done.
I never thought I would get to see a real world Fallout 4 pipe pistol
Can’t beat a folding magazine well. Along with a top mounted magazine, it’s an instant like from me!
Wow what a tidy bit of kit! I'd certainly like to get my hands on one!
"When Sig cheaps out" not something i thought I'd ever hear
Always a pleasure to watch your videos
Great video Ian! I’m a huge fan
I started watching and was unsure, strange thoughts and feelings running through my mind. What is happening, why do I feel happy and almost sad at the same time? Why is it that when Ian says "Sig" during this video my mind immediately begins to doubt? I've heard Ian say Sig dozens, maybe hundreds of times, but never felt like this before.
At the end it all became clear. When Ian said "polymer" I realized that what I was feeling was love, young love, and the thought of this little wooden stocked beauty dressed in polymer like a cheap hussy made me feel very protective. If only I could have her she would always be in wood, beautiful wood, and always look like this. Just like one of my spearguns. But different. And cooler.
I like it. Very different for Sig, but you can appreciate the quality by the choices made to produce it "cheaper", yet it still has an attention to detail that makes it classy. I'm going to look this one up, even though I already know it's way out of my price range, at least if I want to put fuel in the truck for the next year. Damn it.
Fantastic editing on this one
I have waited to see this for a very long time, incredible piece of Swiss.
It's gorgeous!!! A work of art 🎨
Getting a gun THIS simple out of Sig must've been like pulling teeth: it's still oddly beautiful and looks so well put together. Can you imagine the emotional damage you could inflict on a Sig engineer if you showed them a later pattern of a Sten SMG?
Interesting! Ian is a treasure. Thank you .
God bless all here.
I've never understood the tangent sights on 9mm sub guns. 500 yards? Yeah, right.
Suppressive fire. A .22 will keep your head down.
300
@@fg42t2 just as irrelevant
@@markbecht1420 if you just want to spray and pray you don't need fancy sights
I would get more use out a two position rear sight, close and far. 50yard/100 yard. Maybe a large aperture, then if the light is good enough, a flip up smaller aperture for longer range.
It's like asking Mercedes to build a cheap compact city car. It'll be expensive and no one will like it! 🤣
Smart ForTwo?
@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey which is ironically Swiss
I still see a few A classes driving around
@@burnerheinz No, it's 100% German. Although Hayek did pitch the original idea, Daimler-Benz designed the prototypes and provide most of the funding, and when they couldn't agree about the drivetrain, Daimler-Benz bought out SMH completely before production even began. It's a straight-up Mercedes, always was.
Strange gun for sure, and considering it was developed on the cheap, I am super impressed by how well cared for this piece is. Very clean, very well maintained and it received a lot of love.
I love the concept of the sights. So simple.
Simple yet still elegant. Looks fun to shoot!
now THATS a forgotten weapon! wow! please direct me to the rock this thing was jammed beneath all these years.
1:50 that receiver in the picture looks cast. Casting is much cheaper and less strong than forging.
3:43 The upper one in the picture looks forged and machined, the bottom crudely (for Switzerland!) cast.
"cheap"
Progressive trigger, Folding magwell, collapsing stock, locking screws and fine windage adjustable sights.
The swiss are a weird bunch
Ian, you REALLY love that MKPS.
0:26 Do you need to click your heels as well? Asking for an Elbowian friend.
Oh whow, even fieldstripping this thing is hard work... the development of the pin fixed receivers must have been a godsent to soldiers all around the world... especially when it's captive pins.
That’s a pretty gun
Indeed, it is.
It looks like the gun in Flight 714 of Adventure of Tintin.
That title though ... :D
"What's the cheapest gun you've got? Not in this case. I mean the cheapest piece of worthless crap you've got in this miserable store." -The Quick and the Dead.
LOL, I like how the screws and even the WOOD pistol grip have a serial number.
Thanks for "Showing Us Its Features!!"
A "cheap" SMG brought to you by the country that makes the finish watches in the world. Some how I don't see 'Swiss and cheap' being the same as 'china and cheap'.
China makes guns that are cheap. Switzerland makes guns that are economical.
The Swiss pumped out millions of cheap watches. At one point they were making fake "made in USA" pocket watches.
Gotta love "Ye Olde" PDW rails for the stock.
The windage adjustment is genius.
Seems like a massive upgrade from stuff like the sten or grease gun for being a “cheap” smg
Ah, but this is 'Swiss cheap'!
In the British Infantry the SMG has has always been a secondary weapon a bit like the american M1 carbine. This gun would have been great for tank crews,Medics, signalers , cooks and others. As a medic I had to carry an SA80 which was a pain in the neck when trying to treat or evacuate casualties.Was sad to say goodbye to my Sterling.
That tab that connects to the pistol grip, kina' makes me think of the tang on a knife or messer.
Awesome thanks Ian
Thank you for another very informative video, my friend.
I always enjoy learning of more unusual weapons and the developmental history behind them.
Apparently, I somewhat appear to be the odd man out as I find the MP48 very intriguing and desirable. But I have always enjoyed collecting odd and unusual items. I would certainly enjoy seeing how effective this particular smg would prove to be in field.
On a final note, I would like to know the price point which SIG was able to reach in regards to the production cost for this particular smg. I would love to have a greater understanding as to what the Swiss considered to be an affordable cost for an smg. 🤔🤔
Thanks again for taking the time to research these amazing weapons and giving us the unvarnished truth regarding their performance and workmanship. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Have a great week, my friend! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Next up, on "Cursed gun images":
All that simplification and cost cutting, yet it still sounds very much Swiss - gut n tight
Ok, I was expecting something along the lines of "cheap for the swiss is still hella expensive" but the "tell them u want it cheaper and simpler but 4 times in a row" thing made me *_LMFAO!_*
4:00 I think likely they would have had the safety as a optional or requested feature later on if these had been more successful.
Surely the fire rate is lower then the previous Sig SMG you took to the range. 1350 rpm in that little package would be a handful.
Ceramic cabonite is set in a high tolerance mould by ultra sonics.
Bakalite carbon fiber chopped strand & ceramic microball goo.
Most decent weapons .
But ideal for this swiss one.
The barrel is checked for tolerance & honed as required as with all parts giving a very quick cheap & effective durable machine.
- combustion motor 1/2 price 1/2 time & lasts 3x longer.
There's something hilarious about how all the work needed to add a safety was done, but no safety was added. It just makes it feel like someone gave up halfway through design and said, "fuck it, you want cheaper, no safety, here you go!"
That’s a cool design. I like that it’s “simplified” yet still looks good. Like a classy grease gun. Lol
It's still a beautiful weapon. I like the compact stock.
Really like the safety design.
I've never seen the MP48 before. . .
The folding mag well reminds me of the MAT 49
That looks like a fun piece.
Its design looks beautiful.
It´s like asking the leading French Champagne maker to brew up something à la Bud lite ...
It is resurrection week. Gun Jesus brings the past back to life.
God, I fucking love the look of this gun.
I really like this thing.
With thousands of surplus MP40's, Stens, Thompsons, and M3's floating about, I can't see this thing winning too many contracts.