What Happens When You Put A Drone In a Vacuum? Can It Still Fly?
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- In this video I put a drone in a vacuum to see if it can still fly. I talk about how drones need air to fly unlike rockets. Then I put the drone in the vacuum and as I'm sucking out the air I try to fly the drone.As the air is removed the drone cannot create lift and it is grounded. Then as I let the air back in the drone lifts off. Then I show how a rocket (my balloon) can still fly in a vacuum.
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The physics concepts here are pretty simple, but it's still cool to see something that we should already know theoretically being demonstrated physically. Thanks for the video!
+EbikeSchool.com thanks for watching !
EbikeSchool.com yes. and idk why ppl commenting negatively to this vdo
stupid cultist
What like riding a bike?
Yeah youre a child I can see that
*pats head
so this is why helicopters can't fly up to really high mountain heights because the air is to thin?
Mack Andreou exactly
Yes, and what is worse for helicopters, with height also the oxygen content is getting rather low for conventional internal combustion engines. Jet engines can take more height because of the speed ramming a lot of (albeit thin) air into the intake. There are of course helicopters built with jet engines, they can fly higher, but then they encounter the thin air phenomenon and the rotors don't provide enough lift.
Nemozoli Jet engines burn jet fuel, no oxygen needed. A helicopter using a combustion engine has to adjust for thin oxygen when going higher than usual, also air pressure drops quicker the higher you go
turbine engines do need oxygen...
David's Favorite Videos Jet fuel (kerosene) can't burn without oxygen just like any other hydrocarbon fuel.
I'm pretty sure every person on this planet knew the answer
Random stuff with Michael yes I've seen you before, if you know that aerodynamics work with gases or air then you know an aerodynamic machine doesn't work in a vacuum.
apparently not lol
You'll be surprised how many people don't know why helicopters can't fly is space XD
This planet is full of idiots.
not flat-earthers, oh but they won't, even after watching this video
Random stuff with Michael You'd be surprised...
"And it did, because physics works"
This cracked me up
He pro NASA
Is this why helicopters can't fly to the moon?
It is 1 of a list of many many reasons as to why helicopters can't fly to the moon.
-- eric lovelace, yes because
(1) It would go out of control with a dead pilot.
(2) It would cease to rise when the motor dies.
(3) It would be unable to dodge all the satellites when its out of control, with a dead pilot.
(4) The US Air Force would shoot it down when no one answers a radio challenge. Those pilots just love to do that.
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(Shooting down a lot of stuff since Summer, 1952 - USAF, Navy Aviation, and Marine Corps Aviation!)
This a suitable list, Captaintoast12321?
eric lovelace they can't fly to the moon because they will run out of gas before they get there.... dumbass
Zurox You obviously didn't get the joke, dumbass
No.
Using magnets for holding the air in the balloon was genius!! I would have used a larger vacuum chamber and released the balloon with my hands while wearing a spacesuit
You and your space suit would have exploded. That’s why you will never see an astronot wear a space suit in a vacuum chamber. This guy should have used a huge vacuum chamber. The balloon thrust off the side of the chamber, and the chamber quickly gained air density from the balloon, so the air from the balloon had air density to thrust against.
[ NASA space suits are a hoax:
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Nine Eleven rockets can't fly in something that isn't really there
videoloops1
He should of kept the pump on
+Charleigh Waggoner yes they can, it's called Newton's third law
just clicked this to read the comments
Yeah, reading comments , jists or takes is sometimes even more interesting than watching the information or thesis presented !!
The emotional fluctuations sometimes seem to be more powerful than rocket propellants or logic , physics or "science" .....(or humans seemingly love to fight or squabble it out) !
I sometimes wonder what grades some humans had in physics/science ! (chemistry) ? ....purported school !
I'm losing faith in humanity by reading the comments😫
Same here! I'm like "duh, of course it can't fly. So who could possibly not understand that?" But then my wife comes up and says it should be able to fly. And she has a college degree. Go figure. So I guess this video was necessary afterall. BTW: Never watched the video and never will. But do enjoy even the stupid comments : ). But really, without the background science most people would not understand. It's just funny that they think that maybe because it's a drone, maybe it can???
Same. I already know the result; there's no air so the drone can't fly.
I'm just curious how people react 😂
That drone is made my Eachine. They're $20-$30 and tons of fun. They don't tolerate wind well, but inside and low wind they're great!
No one asked jk
Thanks ill order one
cool, might add this to the list
@@jcrosas5751 worth the price in my opinion 🙃
The whole video I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how you were going to get a balloon to release inside the box. After seeing the simplicity of the magnet solution I feel like an idiot =(
Ohhhhh.....much effort was put into this video ....(but seemingly not enough)!
It intrigued me as well...but there seem to be quite inventive guys (or gals) out there !!
Question is , how he can set off a minute fire works rocket in there "remote controlled".... or with a wire detonator !!??
Of course there is way ..... with a rubber seal that fits two wires !!
Oh, yeah and but but cool the way he did it !!
Vajrabrother, i like the way you think. Wire up a taser to a magnetic switch. Like the kind they use for door alarm sensors. Hopefully the battery would stand up to the vacuum.
Pujol (heheheheh) any test could be made .... and make sure the rocket is suspended in midair , so it does not "push off the walls" !
Possibly humans also think that rockets only pushed of the ground .....
and used all that boost to get "way up high" !!??
How bizarre !!
(or off course Nasa would never suspend a rocket in midair to prove to humans , that a rocket does not push off the ground !!)... which it even does "just at the beginning"!
Heehehehehehe...LOL ...so strange what some humans think !!
Wee already know your a idiot dont need explain
New trend will be vacuum chamber challenge
Katie Marshall sounds like a fun time
What's the actual challenge? Sticking your own head in it?
South Africa's President has a vacuum in his head. It causes a deformation at the back of the skull and the eyes bulge a little. It also causes him to say stupid things.
Katie Marshall Finally, I can get sucked.
it will be like ur in space without an spacesuit so have fun!
I like how you present the stuff and what's actually happening and why. Keep it up!
A drone in a vacuum chamber is called a quad-double figit spinner because it cannot fly but the propellers still spin.
For modern humans you must see rockets. Drones are not for vacuum areas. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. Rockets are used to fly in space. Rockets and drones are different.... Do you see the difference between a rocket and a drone? Look at the rocket there is a bright light. See drone no light. Rockets are perfect for flying in space. Drones do not fit. Rockets for space technology. The drone video you show can be used to show evidence if you go back to ancient times
Find videos of people experimenting with the concept of rockets in a vacuum. Get information about rockets. Watch a video on the rocket concept. Don't watch videos for drone concepts. Many rocket concept experiments. Tribes believe the earth is flat, does the video use the rocket concept method?
@19 December 19
Please watch this video to see the earth marked with a red line to measure the distance and estimate the number of buildings that can be built.
How many tall buildings can be built between the red line to the next red line? How tall is the tallest building that humans have built?
How many kilometers from the red line to the next red line?
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@19 December 19 uhh yeah it can
@19 December 19 sure I will. This is the most common example but its very easy to do so lets use this.
Imagine you are on a skateboard and have a bowling ball, when u throw the ball in a direction you will move in the opposite direction. Why is this ?
Isaac Newton's third law of motion!
"Every action produces an equal and opposite reaction."
Meaning if a force is applied in 1 direction the exact amount of force is applied in the opposite direction.
So if we use this information in our experiment, when we apply lets say 5N of force to throw the ball, a force of 5N is applied to us moving us backwards.
This is the principle of rockets, its quite simple.
When a rocket shoots fuel out one end, this propels the rocket forward - no air is required.
@19 December 19
Lol, read the channel producer’s pinned post. You’re embarrassing yourself here.
I know what you do next: What happens if you put youreself in the vacum.
i hope he does it so he can stop posting these videos
tier six my nigga
Probably make your eyes pop out like ping pong balls. Then you will see!
+GrumpSkull Actually, no. Eyes are mostly made of water.
Wompa Gompa The water in his body would boil. :)
A basic understanding of how a drone or any flying machine works let's you know that it wouldn't fly without even watching this video. Makes me think that this channel didn't have any ideas for a video this week or whenever they make them
+Ryan P I also know what will happen I put when I put sodium in water/when I put water in a vacuum/when I use a giant magnifying glass to melt metal etc. It's one thing to predict/know what will happen, it's another thing to live it. What fun is life if you just "know" what will happen but never experience it?
Hydraulic Press Action the difference is that other people may not know something interesting happens when you put sodium in water. And that, along with melting things can result in something visually appealing and worth filming. Nothing about a drone being unable to fly without air is intersting to me. I'm not attacking you or your channel, and it's fine if you were short on ideas when making this. I just thought you would make more interesting videos that this. It's the equivalent of asking how quickly a sailboat van travel without wind, or if a car will start without gas. Nothing personal.
Ryan P I think that your comment was completely unnecessary. I also knew what was most likely going to happen but it was still interesting to watch it actually happen. It is just ridiculous to call something like this "short on ideas" while at the same time there are thousands of channels simply copying each other or uploading almost identical content over and over again. This is something I have personally never seen in a TH-cam video before and even though I knew what will happen I still enjoyed watching it. There are millions of videos here on TH-cam that deserve a comment like yours but this is certainly not one of them.
ccman32 if this channel wants to grow, I'd hope they'd take a comment like mine and say "ya know maybe I should set the bar a little higher instead of making a video saying 'hey, watch this drone NOT WORK'" Feedback that isn't positive is still feedback and I'm not making personal attacks it's constructive criticism. People on TH-cam love to get butthurt in the comments section over very tame comments. Let's not make this one of those times.
Ryan P Neither have I accused you of making personal attacks nor was it my intention to show any sign of "getting butthurt" so I don't see how or why this should be one of those times.
Peace.
basically, a drone won't fly in a vacuum for the same reason a fly won't fly in a vacuum. No air for the blades or wings for them to push down on.
A fly won't fly in a vacuum because it'd be dead.
@@Alex-Walker top kek
bernoulli law is still usefull
Alexander Walker No they dont die, there is actually a video look it up.
Serendine Madaura nope
Couple of quick points I would like to make. When using the balloon you're adding air to the environment creating a atmosphere. Second, using that box provides a bottom for the balloon to push off of...
Exactly, try that balloon trick in the Ohio vacuum chamber, better still put an a guy in there with a spacesuit on without umbilical cords, not one clip available on the net.
what are you trying to say
exactly. the wall behind the balloon. this proves zero...nothing at all.
Yes the air pressure in the balloon wanting to escape creates the rush of air ( atmosphere) and causing it to be applied to a solid object, and is used to propel it through the vacuum.
Does anyone really think a drone could fly without air?
Never knew
It can't but it's cool to see
Hahah
I'm sure there are quite a few younger people in his audience.
no it will not even move the motion will be due to velocity of projection n critical velocity.not by the rotation of blades.its moving their because its partial vacuum n not total vacuum.
Reported for drone abuse
Hahaha
lol
Mark Much tell the gay guy he didn't take ALL THE AIR OUT OF THE CHAMBER. IDIOT.
LOL
Lol..... Hahahaha😂😂
Did Amazon deliver the drone to you with a drone?
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What I really want to see is someone fly a drone in zero gravity, but have air.
That would be awesome
DanielRobboSon that would be hard to control think of the gyros...
@@derrickmoses1507 yeah it would probably just fly "up" really fast and hit the ceiling.
It would be a mess.
Air friction would be the only force acting in opposite, it will take hella a lot of time to stop.
But wait the air wouldn't necessarily give friction, the only friction would be the Contact Force. Coz the air isn't bound by gravity, so it will just start motion.
I gotta find out.
JUICY
If it had reversible thrust it would be easy
Next up:
Let's see if a dog can breathe underwater lol
make a video, can you swim without water.
Neil Kadu 😂😂😂
LOL!
Actually, walking is swimming in air
no it's not
+rucheeification No, when you swim you don't touch the bottom. Flying would be closer to swimming in air.
Hydraulic Press action. Okay guys im gonna put a drone in a vacuum chamber.
Dyllan Jensen gk
Here after NASA said they were gonna helicopter the rover off Mars
My dude I've been thinking the same thing.
NASA claims avg atmospheric pressure is 740pa or about .73% that of Earth's. Or about .11 psi. They must be pretty sure it will fly sense they spent all that money to get it there hopefully they didn't for get air density is a factor in air flight. Otherwise we are going to watch a multi million dollar drone skidder around on Mars.
Gonna require massive energy tho. It can even be impossible for current technology
@@k10-s7q - "Gonna require massive energy tho."
it will take LESS energy than lifting the same mass on earth since the gravity is less.
The challenge is that the rotors need much higher velocity in the lower pressure than on earth.
It would be the equivalent of a helicopter flying in earth atmosphere at 40 km.
Hard, but not impossible if you design for that pressure.
They tested it in a vacuum chamber to demonstrate it works.
Mars isn’t a vacuum
It's suffocating! Let it out!
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Great experiment thanks, but ultimately it is flawed. Once the air comes out of the balloon your tank is no longer in the state of a vacuum. If you watch the video in slow motion the balloon remains basically in the same location, then after half the air has been released the balloon zips forward. I think you need a much bigger tank.
Shh shh don't think just regurgitate
100% bang on right there. For the first half second the balloon doesn't move at all until more air is released giving the rest of the air something to push on.
The drone is more accurate of the fact that there is no way for perpulaion to work in space.
@@dsmtsi air created in a vacuum like from Hyrogen burn WILL accelerate un a vacuum and if you don't think so; then you be dumb brah.
the air coming out of the balloon is pushing on the chamber walls, so it is pushing away from an external medium
@@maddy123sir after that happens, it does multiple tumbles on it's own, don't be dense.
2:54 more impressed of How he tought of that solution to open the balloon with magnets
Bart the Plug yh
You could argue that the air from this balloon was impacting against the surface of the box and so creating a thrust? Great demonstration though.
It's moving because the ball is throwing air so it has to move in the opposite direction
Will a vacuum work in a vacuum chamber that's the real question
For modern humans you must see rockets. Drones are not for vacuum areas. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. Rockets are used to fly in space. Rockets and drones are different.... Do you see the difference between a rocket and a drone? Look at the rocket there is a bright light. See drone no light. Rockets are perfect for flying in space. Drones do not fit. Rockets for space technology. The drone video you show can be used to show evidence if you go back to ancient times
Find videos of people experimenting with the concept of rockets in a vacuum. Get information about rockets. Watch a video on the rocket concept. Don't watch videos for drone concepts. Many rocket concept experiments. Tribes believe the earth is flat, does the video use the rocket concept method?
Of course it won't a vacuum uses air pressure to work. No air, no pressure, no vacuum.
will a shadow work in darkness that's the real question
I want to see how the drone fly in an EXTREMELY dense atmosphere
it would probably get crushed
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Jordan Lynch what?
Think of it this way, fluids. which can be gas or liquid. Gas, as in air, think airplanes. liquid, as in water, think submarines.
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The reason your balloon flew a little is because the atmosphere in the balloon changed the pressure in the box and it initially pushed off the box.
Why not see how much flight you get from the balloon with full pressure in the box compared to full vacuum.
People see a drone, i see a businessman
I liked the way u tied that balloon with the help of magnets
Try putting maybe 5-10 PSI of compressed air in the chamber and see if it flies better from denser air.
14 PSI is normal atmospheric pressure
The Enigma You are correct. I should have specified that I meant PSIG, not PSIA. Thank you for the comment.
The Tool Guy it doesn't depend at all where you're at. atmospheric pressure is and will always be 14.7 psi. if the pressure where you live is 14.3 psi then you live somewhere with less than atmospheric pressure.
TheOpticTomahawk exact pressure depends on your altitude and even on the weather.
You would generate more lift being there is more oxygen to push downward at the expense of the motor working harder to push more volume. Denser air might require a finer blade for the helicopter to ease the stress on the motor but that also has many variables to include weight of the aircraft. It's like pushing water through a power sprayer in a sense compared to a garden hose.
I would have never thought of holding the balloon with a magnet YOU SMART MAN
Rockets, drones, submarines.. Open the video using the rocket concept. Do you know rockets? This is a video for a drone. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. The person who made this video didn’t know about rockets
Submarine technology. In the sea can breathe. Rocket technology for space. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. At sea can breathe sitting in a submarine. When we know the method we can live and fly into space
Experiment
the rocket moves in a vacuum chamber. Evidence of rockets flying in space
Use the rocket concept. Then re -enter the video recording here. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. You use drones because you don’t know rockets. You don’t know newton’s third law
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@@leekelantan618 bro what that was 4 years ago
That is also a great example of the effect of density altitude on an airfoil.
you are going just as we want! new ideas! btw you didnt do a hydraulic press video in a while :P
Thanks! I know I haven't done a press video in a while because everyone is loving my vacuum videos so much, but I do still have a lot of press ideas to do!
Hydraulic Press Action i think you could start viral vids and a trend by vacuuming stuff;) i think change your channel name to vacuum action or something and you will grow so fast!
Hydraulic Press Action also what happens when you put a lokai bracelet or gopro or playing cards in a vacuum chamber? Please do the lokai or cards :) pleaseeee it would mean the world to me and would be entertaining for alot of viewers!:) thanks alottt
Cody's Lab does a whole load of vacuum experiments... funnily enough he covered a similar idea not that long ago.
Codyslab doesnt own vacuum chambers, but this channel is just hoppin on the band wagon. Where's the 1000 degree knife videos?
who clicked on this just to read the comments?
E. Duncan me. My personal favourite so far is a guy saying space does not exist, is a firmament of water between here and heaven. Who encourages these people to come up with this shit?
Lol
i come here in case i need a reminder that i should never have faith in humanity.
me
came to see if anyone actually thought it would fly
What would happen if you put dry ice in a vacuum chamber?
It sublimates faster than normal, would be my guess.
It would be hard to create a vacuum since it would keep adding co2 into the atmosphere. It actually would be similar to mars atmosphere though, besides the -100 Centigrade temps of course:p
what gives you the idea it's not -100 c on mars? at some places the air is so thin it's like being in the vacuum of space on the surface of mars. i bet it's even colder then solid co2
A Highly Visible Ninja. - It would be interesting to see just exactly how much additional throttle is required to maintain flight at Martian atmospheric pressure though.
@ James Denney -- Randall Munroe has an answer for you: what-if.xkcd.com/30/
You don't even have to test it, aircrafts fly on air, air lifts them, an if it's not there..., that's why most aircrafts can't go above a specific point, because theres not much air left
The balloon had the inner walls of your chamber as a medium for the released air to project it, just as a rocket does the ground until it lifts off and uses the atmosphere... I trust your method like I trust a snake.
In this case, the vacuum didn't represent space, so not only was the balloons motion aided by the air pushing on the glass and remaining air, but also, as the balloon shrank, a negative pressure was created and that negative pressure actually pulled the balloon forward, so all this experiment proves is that propellers don't work without enough air to create lift.
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The moon is flat, and we have never been to the Earth!
Impossible😧
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"just gonna let it hover there"
*Bangs around all over the place*
Right so here are all the problems:
1. The reason that the quad copter is capable of flight is not a pressure differential, it is simple movement of air. Yes, there is a pressure differential, but thats just because something is moving in a fluid
2: your balloon only works with liquid or gas rocket fuel that pressurizes itself as it is ignited. Without the pressure of the atmosphere, a solid rocket will not burn fast. For proof, check out Cody's Lab's latest video.
3. The people who sent the rockets to space knew what would work and how it would work, if they hadn't, there is no possible way that they could successfully direct a rocket anywhere.
The third point doesn't matter as much as the first two
He gets the point across.
Jaden CM there are solid motors used in space, especially on smaller rockets or as kick stages. These obviously work, so they have some mechanism to work, although my physics smarts aren't good enough to make a guess as to why
Marius Schär it is possible to have solid boosters that pressurize themselves as they combust, the thing is, and I'm oversimplifying this, when you burn things in air there is pressure (oxygen is not necessarily necessary) but without the pressure, you cannot get a chain reaction causing repeated combustion.
In a vacuum, when you burn things, the molecules that combust fly away/lose their heat too fast to supply enough heat to the next unburnt molecules in order to catalyze the combustion reaction.
So if you were to take a rocket and essentially plug the bottom in order to create something that acts like an artificial atmosphere, you could get combustion. But obviously there would have to be a solid oxidizer in the mix.
I am, however unaware of the actual applications, I just know about the theory.
Jaden CM Your first point is wrong. A wing works because of pressure differential. There's a higher pressure below the wing then there is above the wing when it is spinning. The rotor blades are just wings mounted in a circular pattern.
This was a cool demonstration on drone physics!
Did you notice that you could still use the controller to rotate the drone around it's axis? That particular control mechanism does not require air as it is based on adjusting the speed difference (angular momentum difference) of the CCW and CW rotating motors.
However, this will not work if there's too much friction between the drone legs and the vacuum chamber floor but I'm guessing that with such smooth surface it would work.
+Jouni Knuuttila I didn't know that! That is awesome, I did notice how it still turned slightly!
Jouni Knuuttila unfortunately he turned the vacuum off so when the balloon released its pressure the vacuum chamber walls providing something to react against.... Closed universe system... What would happen if, like the drone test the vacuum remained on.... The more negative pressure would snuff any extra pressures present....
I know that sound waves can not travel in the vacuum of space. So radio waves can?
@@andrewssd Yes - radio waves can travel in the vacuum of space.
Nice to see physics still works correctly. :)
@19 December 19 "he didn't do his physics right" is a nonsense statement. Physics is what affects everything around us, not what we do. But when you make your video demonstrating how the experiment is supposed to go, feel free to send me a link.
It appears that the balloon pushes off the walls of the chamber- watch it in slow motion. I think for one to gain anything from this experiment, you would have to redo it and prevent the walls of the chamber from coming into play. As is, it is inconclusive... A simultaneous view of the pressure guage would be nice too. The first part with the quad copter was was interesting.
The drone wasn't forced down by air pressure like flat earthers assurt.
The balloon experiment is 100% flawed as it ia releasing pressurized air into the tank and pushing off the walls. For the first half second the Baloo doesn't move at all until more air is released giving the rest of the air something to push on.
The drone is more accurate of the fact that there is no way for perpulaion to work in space.
Excellent point k.
I say this too
@@dsmtsi Nope, even at 0.25x it's clear to me that it starts moving immediately.
How did your balloon not expand and then explode when you pulled the vacuum ? I call bullshit on this basis.
It did expand....
Tesla Nick I don't know honestly, I guess the rubber effectively blocks the low pressure and high pressure areas? I DON'T KNOW
It did expand. Did you even watch the video? Its near impossible to pull a true vacuum. Especially with a home made set up like that.
Even if there was a complete vacuum, it still wouldn't have to explode.
-- Tesla Nick, with only a little air (pressure) inside it there's no chance of an explosion. Say that it had only a fraction of one PSI.
The opposite of an inflated bladder under water where one employs extremely high pressure.
Is it just me or does this seem obvious? Why would someone expect it to fly?
NickWarnerMedia yeah i know drones uses air to push itself into the air but if there is no air drone cant push itself up... air haves same effect as water... fishes swim in water like planes and drones fly in air
NickWarnerMedia we expected ballon not to fly , because earth is flat . and chamber is to small for experiment , because it propels from the walls.
You realize no one can understand that gibberish right?
This is called empirical measurement instead of just filling your head with textbook knowledge. The empirical method is far more effective as a teaching tool.
It's exactly people like you that write textbooks and tell me that it's gravity that holds the earth atmosphere in place. You take that on blind faith my friend; not a proven fact, only conjecture. Spokesmen for NASA can't prove it either only surmise on what they can measure. It's the best theory that is posited and that is accepted but still based on blind faith and possible explanations. An easy out to explain things away because when you try and bring up an inconceivable vacuum of space against earth's tiny gravitational field in comparison, gravity wins. That's why empiricism is a good approach and one on which most true science is based upon.
You need a magical helicopter like NASA on mars.
There is a flaw with the use of a balloon in the vacuum chamber. The air molecules were in the balloon and when released, the exhaust end of the balloon was pressed against the glass, thereby providing a resistance for the escape molecular air to push against which propelled the ballon away from the glass surface. There's your action and reaction.
Exactly.
Wrong. The opening of the end of the balloon was not pressed up against the glass. Also, if you slow the video down you can clearly see that the balloon flies in different directions even when not near the walls. Also, you can buy rockets yourself. Do you need to have them butted up against a flat surface to fly? No. Come on, think!
Thank you that's the reason it pushed offand these other comments people couldn't see that or they didn't want too
@@cloudoftimeJesus Christ you're dull. Can you not see that the balloon was held tight against the glass?
@@Checkeroute Did I say "the balloon" or did I say "the end of the balloon" as in the opening? There is an important distinction and it makes all the difference.
Ironic that you're calling me dull.
What would happen if you put a kitten is there?
People love cat videos after all!
Andrew Blake
Oh my god no
If you make the box opaque, you will have Schrodinger's Cat.
No you won't, the kitten's death is confirmed, not up to literally scientifically random radioactive decay.
Schrödinger's cat is an analogy to a phenomenon that occurs ONLY on quantum scales. It does NOT work with cats or macroscopical objects. Only things like photons/electrons/other particles.
Also, putting mammals (or any other animal that is capable of feeling pain and suffering) in vacuum would be an incredibly immoral thing to do. Also a crime that would get him to jail.
The author did put a fly inside, but they don't experience that, so it's not a problem.
I know the experiment. I was making a joke.
reading these comments makes me think if people are trying to be idiots on purpose
Yeah, really "almost" !!
maybe this helps ??
th-cam.com/video/m6qJh9upqW8/w-d-xo.html
This is some footage .....and rockets even have self destruct procedures when "tilted" too much or off course !!
Which did not even seem to be case with the "Challenger" disaster !! (O rings)
or possibly this vid helps with 9/11
th-cam.com/video/9eh7hMOMWoo/w-d-xo.html
Who knows ?? (the "viewers themselves" !)
Interesting how the drone could still rotate around the pitch axis. This is because rotation is done through reaction of the opposite spinning props, as opposed to movement of air.
but the rocket flies because of it's own atmosphere doens't it?
like if you give the quad the same amount of air underneath it , it wil fly as well
liamvant technically you have to put air above the drone for it to fly :P
It depends on how you think of it. You could describe it that the rocket makes the high pressure behind it that pushes it forward. But the pressure in the chamber itself did not go up according to the pressure gauge, so the balloon was still flying at the same vacuum pressure.
You all realize they do not use rockets in space right? They don't work. Period. After a rocket is launched into space it only uses the acceleration it got before leaving our atmosphere (in space no air friction = no reduced speed). Then they use gravitational pulls from planetary objects, or ionic thrusters to change direction.
The reason they dont work is because there is no air to give mass behind the rocket. Everyone knows u put force one way it gives the opposite force the same, According to masses of the objects (air vs rocket) when air is removed from the equation the thrust generated towards the rocket is so minuscule you would need millions of tons of fuel to do anything. Thus they do not use standerd rockets in space, they use ionic thrusters. Google them.
Liam Hogeterp, I really hope you are not someone that thinks we didn't go to the moon or else my comment will fall on deaf ears. I think you are confused about rockets. I just showed you that a balloon moves in a vacuum. So does a rocket. The only difference between the balloon and a rocket is the balloon used pressurized air and a rocket uses another pressurized gas (like water from H2 O2 reaction). In fact rockets fly better in space because they can produce more thrust in a vacuum. The thrust equation in general is Thrust force=m_flow*Exit_Velocity+(Presssure_throat-Pressure_outside)*Exit_Area. The lower the outside pressure is the more thrust you get because your exit gas expands more. Why don't you read from the experts themselves on this subject (NASA):spaceflightsystems.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/Lessons/propulsionS_act.html
Up next: will water make stuff wet?
Some yes, some no. Some stuff, called 'superhydrophobic', actively _repel_ water.
try to put a heavy gas in the chamber
the sulfur-hexaflorid
and try the helium too
please
Ramy RDJ what do expect to happen? Because you can't see gas and lower pressure won't do much.
He can tries it but without acticvating the pump
Just filling the chamber , put the drone in it and close it
I want to see if it will fly more easily or with more difficulty
It will fly a bit more easily in a heavy gas and much harder if at all in hydrogen.
G.
sulfur hexafluoride is extremely dense, the helicopter would probably float without even starting the engine.
hydrogen is a little dense, but not dense enough to carry an RC quadcopter with a plastic frame covering circuitry (wired with conductive metals such as nickel, a bit of chrome, zinc, copper) that may be supported with small steel (iron and carbon) and/or covered/made with zinc.
no hat plez
-- AtomNyuszi, and if it makes a noise it could sound like Donald Duck (If its helium, that is!)
I could feel the drone crying for air 😭
The balloon just flopped around and fell downward to the bottom of the vacuum chamber. The gas that the ballon was expelling also was able to push off of the inside of the chamber wall, much like a rocket pushing off of a launch pad.
Based on these observations, this was a poorly set up experiment IF the goal was to prove conclusively that rocket propulsion is possible in a vacuum. Watching the balloon's reaction really does more to disprove propulsion in a vacuum than support it from what I'm seeing here with my eyes.
I imagine it'd be difficult to set up a more accurate experiment that would eliminate the vehicle's ability to push off of the side walls to obtain propulsion, but overall this was a really neat experiment. Thank you for sharing.
flattard
"Yes" sadly balloons flop about ..... (heheheheheh) and rubber as mass is subjected to gravity and do not have their own steering !!
"Right you are" !
Here's a better idea, drone in a pressure chamber. can it fly longer with more dense air? the denser air is harder to move but generates more lift with each propeller rotation.
Yep I was wondering about him saying that as well, since the goal is to achieve zero pressure.
Well heres the answer to your question, can you swim in nothing?
Alex Cowie if your nothing then yeah😞
I came here for the sarcastic comments, and wasn't disappointed...
Alex Cowie It depends how drunk you are
Alex Cowie.
I have indeed gone swimming while wearing nothing at all. One does have much more freedom of movement without the restriction of apparel.
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The ballon worked because it has air in it. The drone did not supply air
When I was a young child they were still teaching in grade school science class that there was a mysterious barrier between the atmosphere and space that would prevent space travel from ever being possible. That was after Sputnik but before the first manned Mercury flights. They talked about Russian cosmonauts but a lot of reporters back then pretended that the Russians had perpetrated a hoax. My teacher in first grade insisted that it was a hoax and insisted that in college they taught her that space flight would be forever impossible and was the stuff of science fiction only. Of course within a couple of years she was proven wrong and a couple of years after that we watched men walk on the moon. The truth is, until you actually attempt to do something, theory means squat.
+nunya biznez that's funny, people really hope for a good conspiracy
nunya biznez its called the van allen belt and you can read about it on Nasa's website
was she sold on actual mathematics and evidence based theory or merely conjecture?
thats the problem with education institutions, theres no formal questioning mechanism that is taught, if they did, the students would quickly realize they can learn better, faster, cheaper from the internet, then university would just be used for their hardware resource and supervision, advanced maker spaces basicly
if i was elon musk, i would prototype enclosed mars colony's on earth and use them as giant engineer incubators, free living as long as your willing to develop yourself and commit to serving mankind, bring in 12-32 year olds to get a better start on life
drewgo2828
"The Van Allen belts were the first discovery of the space age, measured with the launch of a US satellite, Explorer 1, in 1958." Thus, any school teacher would not be aware of this feature prior to this date.
Many who refer to the van Allen Belts (there are more than just one) do not understand that these belts of charged particles form "a nearly impenetrable barrier that prevents the fastest, most energetic electrons from reaching Earth". They do not impede solid mater, such as meteors.
Now, YOU should do some research to understand just what is an electron in transit from our sun.
Second fact- If one examines any belt, even one that can be worn about the waist, one should notice a large circular hole at the top and at the bottom. If one attempted to restrain a captured prisoner with only a circular fence (but no leg irons) and that prisoner was a good high jumper . . . . how effective is that barrier?
You are correct, a belt tends to have holes on the top and bottom. However, since we exist in a three dimensional universe, things have a tendency to become spherical a bit more often than in a two dimensional universe. Also, even assuming that they don't, the belt will likely be gathered around the equator, else the charged particles would be rushing to the poles and would form spots instead of belts. Basic magnetism. Issue is, humans live closer to that equator than to the poles, meaning a rocket launched straight up passes through the belts or has to go into a polar orbit and escape trajectory, which is awkward as the moon is not in a polar orbit to the earth, making rendezvous near impossible due to the moon's low gravity.
Thanks for proving space can’t exist.
On the contrary this video shows that vacuum space does exist
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum
lmao I'll bite. Explain why this disproves space. Go on.
They weren't guessing and hoping that rockets would work in a vacuum, they knew without question that it would work and they'd actually seen it work in vacuum chambers (they weren't so lame that they created the vacuum chambers to "make sure" that physics was right, they ran them in vacuum chambers to see if there were any mechanical issues they had neglected to consider in the design of the rocket motor).
What a lot of people don't take into account (and flat earthers ignore) is that space doesn't just start, it's not just atmosphere then vacuum, it's a gradual pressure decrease. By the time you're at cruising altitude for jets, the pressure is already 1/3 of what it is on the ground. They had plenty of experience of flying aircraft and rockets higher and higher before they managed to get them into space. The V2 was able to reach very close to the Karman Line, which is typically accepted as the boundary of space. At that point air pressure is negligible.
@@ChrisCooper312 Good point but how does any type of Rocket START it's movement WHILE already In Space? That is the Question, not how does it GET to space. Space is Not a chamber.
Rockets, drones, submarines.. Open the video using the rocket concept. Do you know rockets? This is a video for a drone. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. The person who made this video didn’t know about rockets
Submarine technology. In the sea can breathe. Rocket technology for space. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. At sea can breathe sitting in a submarine. When we know the method we can live and fly into space
Experiment
the rocket moves in a vacuum chamber. Evidence of rockets flying in space
Use the rocket concept. Then re -enter the video recording here. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. You use drones because you don’t know rockets. You don’t know newton’s third law
th-cam.com/video/GxBRQXxBRic/w-d-xo.html
@@hotheadedjoelhaha Rockets, drones, submarines.. Open the video using the rocket concept. Do you know rockets? This is a video for a drone. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. The person who made this video didn’t know about rockets
Submarine technology. In the sea can breathe. Rocket technology for space. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. At sea can breathe sitting in a submarine. When we know the method we can live and fly into space
Experiment
the rocket moves in a vacuum chamber. Evidence of rockets flying in space
Use the rocket concept. Then re -enter the video recording here. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. You use drones because you don’t know rockets. You don’t know newton’s third law
th-cam.com/video/GxBRQXxBRic/w-d-xo.html
@@ChrisCooper312 Rockets, drones, submarines.. Open the video using the rocket concept. Do you know rockets? This is a video for a drone. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. The person who made this video didn’t know about rockets
Submarine technology. In the sea can breathe. Rocket technology for space. Astronauts use rockets. Not a drone. At sea can breathe sitting in a submarine. When we know the method we can live and fly into space
Experiment
the rocket moves in a vacuum chamber. Evidence of rockets flying in space
Use the rocket concept. Then re -enter the video recording here. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. You use drones because you don’t know rockets. You don’t know newton’s third law
th-cam.com/video/GxBRQXxBRic/w-d-xo.html
Thank you I've been looking everywhere for an experiment like this
a question that really doesnt need testing lol
MultiMatt0202 I think it was more of a case of demonstration
This is some serious fundamental science knowledge that children entering their first year of highschool should already know. The difference between a helicopter and a rocket....
OmicronChan you do understand how rockets and propulsion works right? There must be air to push off of for propulsion to work.
+Ryan Steele No air is needed for a rocket to push off of. That is just what uneducated people think. Rockets generate thrust by ejecting fuel that has mass at high velocities. That creates a reaction force that pushed the rocket in the opposite direction of the fuel being ejected. In fact, rockets work better in a vacuum, because they don't have any air resistance in the direction of travel.
A rocket is not an airplane that pushes against air. I suggest you do some research on the subject.
+Ryan Steele Why would a rocket need air to fly? Please explain. How did all of the satellites get into orbit that are used for weather and satellite TV?
+Ryan Steele Can't you make a comment without insults?
I know a lot about how rockets work, and they don't need air. They do need oxygen, which is why they have oxygen tanks as well as fuel tanks. but they don't push on air for propulsion.
www.livescience.com/34475-how-do-space-rockets-work-without-air.html
I don't get why there are so many ignorant people in this video comments :O
How can they know how to read and write but have such a lack of knowledge? And why are they going so fast to insults? Are they from USA? Are there educational issues in your country?
I'm being serious here, I'm really surprised, I've seen a dozen of them around here like him...
Helicopters have a maximum ceiling hight of operation
No atmosphere no forward are upward motion
Your balloon had Resistance against the wall of your small vacuum chamber
Rocket thrust works like a fire hose the force produced by the hose is not caused by the water hitting air it's caused by the pressure of the water leaving the hose
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td yes it does, the density of the air, is enough for the pressure to push onto and create momentum. everything about space is complete science fiction
@@Explosivo55 Bring a firehose in a vacuum chamber and see for yourself.
@ Vacuum creates no force. The number you mentioned is just a minuscule pressure between 0 and 1 psi. The atmosphere isn't "pressurized" the pressure is from weight alone like the ocean (15000+ psi at its deepest). It doesn't float into space for the same reason the ocean doesn't - gravity.
way to debunk the helicopter on mars...
-.5 atmospheres... how does that work again? XD
Could he be giving amounts of air pressure removed?
Dosluke idk one atmosphere or one bar, is 16psi. So basically -.5 atmospheres would be 8psi.
you can actually have negative atmospheres?
Dosluke idk in physics and engineering they have absolute pressure which cant be less than 0, amd relative pressure which is relative to the atmosphere so it can go down to -1 atm
Dosluke idk its merely a convenient scale sonce most of our machines work under 1 atm of external air pressure so we cancel it out
rockets do not work in a vacuum - The Earth is flat.
So a handgun, when fired wouldn't recoil in a vacuum?
legend says he wont replie
+Tiko Pacheco the legends are right...oh wait, I just ruined it!
Hydraulic Press Action omg
OH YEAHHHH! Love the wonders of science!!!!
Quick answer :
NO
Next, what happens if you take a fish out of the water
The drone flew as high in vacuum as my grades in school
Apparently there's walls in space to push off of? Hmm, who knew! 😂
Seriously, do all flaties are so stupid?
@@tgstudio85 you;re the stupid one. cant figure it out? rockets cant fly in vacuum yo dumb crud.
Wow, 7.6k thumbs down? Must be a bunch of flat-earthers out there.
Rockets & balloon fly because they have their own internal force, prop & rotor propelled cannot because they rely on external force.
No, those was stupid GlobeTards, that think „spaceflight“ is possible in a vacuum.
Sciencegamer you need to ignite a rockets fuel and will not ignite in a vacuum hence no gases from rocket
@@Zipfreer Yes, the burn of the fuel releases A LOT of gas.
Sciencegamer How can something burn a vacuum? With no O2 to feed it ? not H20 * autocorrect sucks
@@Zipfreer There is liquid oxigen and fuel inside the rocket, the oxygen burns the fuel inside the propulsors and release gas, you flatters make so many dumb questions... Also that isn's H2O (Water) that burnt things, it's the oxygen (O2), you make it clear and obvious that you are flatters because of lack of knowledge, before humiliating yourself by asking a question like that, research, that's a tip that I give okay?
The moon is flat
Was it a joke? 😂
Its cuboidal
How can it be flat if it isn’t real?
Pffss.. you believe in the moon?
It's a hologram set up by the US government during the cold war to trick the Russians
*_StUpiD_*
The moon is piece of big cheese.
There is no outer space
An analogy can be made here:
Can you swim on an empty swimming pool?
Another example. We stand on the skateboard against the wall. We push ourselves off the wall with our hand. The skateboard will go backwards. Now stand on the same skateboard and push against the wall but keep your hand 1 cm away from it. Don't touch the wall, just push yourself away from the virtual wall. What is the effect? The skateboard does not go backwards. Not a millimeter. No resistance from wall and no action from skateboard.
the dislikes, must be flat earth poeple
@do hoop No doubt
Why? It perfectly demonstrates why a combustion engine wouldn't work in "space."
@@jsmith3867
If you're talking about a rocket, then you don't know how a rocket works.
Propellors pull matter through a system to create movement.
A rocket throws matter to create movement.
The fuel itself IS oxygen. Hence its functioning even in a vacuum. A jet engine would NOT work in space because the propellant has to move through an intake. Rockets have no intake.
Think of it like this:
A musket will not fire in space. The reaction I not self contained. A modern rifle, however, would. Its fuel and oxidizer are self contained and sealed.
@@BetterCallThall Don't waist your time. These troglodytes are retarded.
Daniel Harbeson he thinks a balloon is the same as a 🚀..combustion doesnt work in space 100pct. flat earth has nothing to do with it...
There are no such phenomena as a *"vacuum in space"*
The balloon was propelled against the expelled air and
the barrier in the very confined space of the chamber
You weren't supposed to catch that, much less say anything about it! This video is designed for those incapable of thinking for themselves
@@elmerfox6872 - Put a firehose in a vacuum chamber and turn it on if it still flops around rockets work in space
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td A firehose that is expelling water would be creating it's own medium. Again, bad example.
@@kneedragnr1 - What do you think a rocket does?
@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td It propels. But, it needs a medium to do so.
Totally plausible argument, assuming the rocket has six walls to thrust against...
Rocket thrust works like a fire hose. The force produced by the hose is not caused by the water hitting air it's caused by the pressure of the water leaving the hose
The balloon takes or creates it's own atmosphere while the drone relies upon the current atmosphere. Fascinating
For modern humans you must see rockets. Drones are not for vacuum areas. Astronauts do not use drones. Astronauts use rockets. Rockets are used to fly in space. Rockets and drones are different.... Do you see the difference between a rocket and a drone? Look at the rocket there is a bright light. See drone no light. Rockets are perfect for flying in space. Drones do not fit. Rockets for space technology. The drone video you show can be used to show evidence if you go back to ancient times
Find videos of people experimenting with the concept of rockets in a vacuum. Get information about rockets. Watch a video on the rocket concept. Don't watch videos for drone concepts. Many rocket concept experiments. Tribes believe the earth is flat, does the video use the rocket concept method?
1900 : there wil be a flying car in the future
2019: unflying drone
This guy can read you the full harry potter series and it'd still sound boring
I'd like to see a balloon that's suspended in a larger vacuum chamber, so there's no possibility to have thrust off a wall.
It would work. I think you’re forgetting that the inside of the balloon is a “wall”
And thats why planes dont fly in Space
And that's why feathers fall at the same speed as a 50 ton tank in a vacuum.
ExelsioHD nor rockets
Actually, rocket fuel is mixed with liquid oxidiser for space travel. So the fuel is able to be ignited.
Brogle some people think that rockets propell by pushing off air... They are unable to understand that a rocket is pushed because of pressure in the combustion chamber.
Heck, they don't even know what pressure is as they think a vacuum produces force...
Danny Sedney if there's a failure in understanding it's because there's been a failure to illustrate (rationally with applicable established principles) nasa claims
Sorry but no.
1. No longer a vacuum once the air is expelled.
2. Air is reacting against the solid wall of the chamber.
Dear Susan, it does indeed appear that he barely ran the compressor (to lower the chamber's air pressure). But you have it upside down: if he had done so (i.e. created a "serious" vacuum in the chamber), the balloon would have expanded very significantly (not shrunk) - and probably burst. Also, it is no wonder that the balloon moved once he removed the magnet: the air it contained, of course, pushed against the wall of the chamber! In space, things are very different: firstly, there are no walls (nor air) to push against. Secondly, no man-made pressurized container (such as rocket fuel tanks) is able to sustain the massive pressure differential between itself and "outer space" (which starts at about 100km of altitude, the so-called "Karman line"). If it even reaches this altitude (hot air balloons stop ascending at about 45km) - in spite of the thinning atmosphere providing ever less "opposite reaction", the rocket will either (1) explode catastrophically or (2) its pressurized fuel will be violently sucked out in a microsecond (according to the well established laws of thermodynamics) and NO force will be applied to the rocket itself (so as to make it continue its ascension up & away from Earth's gravity). In other words: rockets flying around in outer space (and steering / maneuvering / accelerating / braking at will!) are a physical impossibility - and a pure fantasy (exploited by the powers that be). And no, Earth is NOT flat.
@@simonshack1 - The "massive pressure differential" you speak of is an additional 14.7 psi from the lack of surrounding atmosphere and stick a firehose in a vacuum chamber and turn it on if it still flops around rockets work in space
The answer is no.... there I saved 3 min of your life
squishy duck thanks man. Thats a whole cigarette
yeah but i want to see it for entertaiment so you just spoiled the fun
Should be intuitive that propellers won't work in space but this is a cool experiment. Nicely done.
Drones can't fly in a vacuum because of the same reason planes can't fly to space
This video is for kids. 😂
Yeah, because propeller sucks and push air and stuff like that. Im posting this comment at 3.54 AM. I dont know why but why not
who can fly in space?
that's a toy, not a drone
By definition, it's a drone. A toy drone.
Neon - TC ....no that is toy....want proof?.. drone definition: a remote-controlled pilotless aircraft or missile, that has or/and is operated by an on board camera......his TOY doesnt have a camera.......and language terms.....ROASTED!!!
fuddle128260394 Quadcopters fall under the category of drones, don't they? Also they don't have to hold a camera or be capable autonomous flight. That's just an unmanned aerial vehicle which also falls under the category of drones.
Neon - TC im done arguing, that 20$ toy is NOT a drone, a real drone is way more expensive and advanced. just becuase u put some propellers of crap doesnt make it a drone.
quadcopters are drones dumbass.
it doesnt matter how cheap or tiny it may be.
...It obviously won't fly. That's basic physics.
That's the point!.
Really nice video ❤️
Thanks