She didn't know how to tell him? So she waited until the greatest moment of humiliation and heartache possible to tell EVERYONE. She doesn't deserve forgiveness. She doesn't deserve closure. She doesn't deserve the opportunity to apologize and get it off HER chest.
Yes, but legally, the officiant has to turn in the paperwork after the people say "I do". They can't just not turn it in because they've decided the relationship isn't going to work. In this case, the guy can get an annulment because she deceived him. If he moves to divorce right away, he will be golden. The key to an annulment is not accepting the person AFTER you fins out about the deceit. You have a very limited time to annul after you find something out. If you try to forgive, you will end up being unable to annulment because you've accepted the person after knowing about their deceit.
That is true. However, either the bride or groom can get a witness to testify that the marriage did take place on that date and get a new marriage certificate and if they turn that in the wedding is official.
Jake might not have had an affair with her but he clearly had encouraged her in the past. OP described how he shared private laughs/moments with her which shows he knew she was giving him attention/ that she felt attracted to him but he enjoyed it instead of cutting it off. OP is not wrong in distrusting his friend
I am 100% sure that Hake knew about this. He was literally cheating with Rachel behind OP’s back. I would never speak to Jake as well. Jake is trying to play the victim.
She knew and Jake had to have known, their secret messages. Their secret laugh, their closeness. HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN!!! She waited till the worst possible moment!!! I would SUE HER FOR THE COST OF THE WEDDING!!! I hope she's never ever happy.
If this story had been real, Jake the best friend is at no fault any more than the jilted groom for being oblivious that the fiancee was in love with Jake. Jake is full on bro's before 304's and shot down even communicating with the fiancee after the wedding. The friendship with Jake should still be solid because he did nothing wrong and shot down the fiancee. From my own life experiences when I was much younger, I can see how an immature woman can form an attachment to someone other than their partner. My best friend from grade school had a girlfriend our senior year of high school and we hung out together a lot. I was usually a "third wheel" because I didn't have a girlfriend...heck, I was so shy around women I was interested in dating that I didn't even go on my first date until AFTER I graduated high school. When I did start dating, my best friend's girlfriend got noticeably jealous. Eventually she confronted me that she felt like my new girlfriend took away "one" of her boyfriends. There's more to the story, but this is all the time I want to put towards it other than specifying that I did not betray my best friend.
OP don't cut off your friend. He seems just as blind sided as you were. Go get an annulment and sue her for the costs associated with the wedding. I would not meet with her if she wants closure tell her to find a door.!!
@Dstoku21 Sometimes. My wife and I paid for our wedding the only thing her mom and and dad paid for was her dress. We covered all other associated costs. What this witch did was beyond disrespectful. She had ample time prior to the wedding to call it off without pulling the crap she did. And then tried to back peddle on her story after she got crap about it.
@@kwakithailand Honestly, if his friend didn't know it's on Rachel not him. I would be in a similar situation. I am pretty close with the wife of a friend of mine. We both share a hoby and my friend trusts me enough to be ok with it. And she doesn't even show signs of more than friendship. Nothing we do is anything we wouldn't do in front of our spouses. If she would drop such a bombshell I would be as blindsided as my friend would be. And while I would understand his distrust I would try to fix anything if fixable. OOPs woman not only humiliated him in public. She deliberately tried to destroy their friendship. She showed it by contacting the dude only to find he isn't giving up on his friend. She tried to play them and failed. That's where her last mail came from.
@@Asperger0815the fact that she actually came to apologize immediately after shows she only wants to get it off her chest not actually make amends and repair the damage. You don't GET to have closure lady. You don't get to get this off your chest. Its your horrific sin that you must bear.
How can you blame your friend when he did the same thing you did? You weren't sure and ignored it, and so did your friend. You two sound like best buds.
Yeah.I don't believe jake wasn't doing anything. The inside. Joke at the table before they changed the subject.If it wasn't a big deal.Why not include him in it?What was he hiding Jake just decided it wasn't worth.Losing his best friend over this girl.So he lied about it he knew. I would have asked him to print out the conversations.Them too had on his phone for him to prove it. Guarantee, he would have found that Jake was not Innocent the whole time. Don't get close to like that with your best friend's girlfriend
I think I read somewhere a similar story but just short and straightforward. Jake never realised that Rachel has feelings for him, and was shocked to at the confession. And cut contact with Rachel even after her divorce although she tried to contact him afterwards.
No way the 304 and the “best friend” weren’t screwing like rabbits the entire time. OP was just a clueless, weak wallet who allowed the 304 to continue her relationship with Jake right under his blind nose. At the end, OP says he’s learned to “trust his instincts.” What instincts? Clearly he has none because his fiancee and her boyfrie…er, I mean OP’s best friend, were carrying on right in front of him for a long, long time. Jake is not the innocent bystander he’s trying to portray. Excise both from your life.
I'm with you, l wouldn't trust your friend either, no body is that blind! You had all they red flags in front of your & did nothing do, don't put all they blame on her you are also to blame!
What did she intend to accomplish by broadcasting her feeling just after the ceremonies. Disgusting woman. This is a story on how destroy a man. Bullshit.
WTF, THEN MARRY JAKE, THIS STORY SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS THE ONE WHO BETRAYED YOU. ONE THING IS SURE, THAT GIRL WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH YOU. AND IF SHE NEVER HAD RELATIONS WITH JAKE, THEN HER INFATUATION SHOWS HOW IMMATURE SHE WAS, UNLESS JAKE LIED AND THEY MADE OUT, I DOUBT THAT GIRL AFTER SO LONG DIDN'T TRY SOMETHING WITH JAKE, AND NOT JUST BEFORE THE WEDDING. I DON'T BELIEVE JAKE. I BET THEY WERE LOVERS, AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO HIDE IT BECAUSE THE GIRL MADE PUBLIC HER INFATUATION.
Op was a wimp. He was lacking in a backbone n allowed her 2 embarrass him like that. She made that confession n he left him at alter n he was left paralysed n couldn't do anything?! Even ran 2 be a cabin n let her control the narrative. N jake attempts 2 go after her?! Thats suspect. Instead of being there 4 op, that was his intended action?! Yea ok. N jake acts like he never knew?! Bs. He just doubted she'd been so shameless n bold 2 do that at the wedding. But still op was a simp, he still met her after she embarrassed him like that?! Again, 4 jake 2 not know she loved him (n for yrs) yea ok, even having inside jokes, side glances?! It was more than that imo.
Dec2024: It's obvious Bride had been with intimate with Bestie many times over a long period. Events overtook her and she didn't confess until just after the vows. Only then did Bride realized her perfect life was over and not just beginning. Groom was about to take her away from the man she loved. Retired in Sacto.
BS STORY.........Um, wedding speeches are given AFTER the ceremony, so how could he leave her at the alter AFTER her speech? Oh, and brides don't give one - the maid of honor does. SMH........
@@jorgenflykt7056 still yes a husband MUST keep his wife very happy. Most men don't know how too. Wham bam iam done you!! If done right no need to ask!
Sorry but there is no way that Jake didn't know the fiance was into him. He did nothing to create distance or try to back her off. From OP's story it sounds like Jake was way too involved in their relationship and a constant third wheel because of how close he was to the OP. I hope the OP learned his lesson not to let other guys, even good friends, constantly associate with his girlfriend. This happened to me ages ago when I was in my 20's. A very good friend's girlfriend ended up getting a little too close and friendly over a couple of years. The second I suspected that she was getting into me I ghosted the pair of them. I talked to him as little as possible without giving anything away and stayed well away from her. After a couple of weeks of this she tried calling me at home to talk. I blew her off by saying I was headed out for a date (a lie) and that the reason I hadn't seen them lately was because I was spending all my time with a new girlfriend (sorta true but me and her weren't that involved yet). Anyway that seemed to do the trick because she didn't contact me again. It sucked to basically have to sideline our friendship over her but no way was I going to be the one to break them up. Don't tell me I should have told him about her, there was nothing solid to point to yet, no evidence, I just knew. Just like Jake had to have known in this story.
If there was no actual cheating, why would OP be angry with Jake? Why didn;t Rachael ask OP at coffee what they were going to do moving forward?! Why would Jake be saying he was sorry and "didn't want to hurt him?!" This makes no f-ing sense.......
He must have taken his sister offer. Met the ex wife on quiet place let the sister make her magic and testify the wife has attacked the sister and the sister defended herself. Being a woman and two witness on her side, no risk. They wife would have learnt how to behave.
OP is an idiot. Breaking up with Rachel and ending communication, I understand. But his issue with Jake is stupid. Jake DIDN'T EVEN KNOW how Rachel felt, and was just as shocked as he was at her announcement. Jake couldn't even see anything amiss until AFTER her announcement and him reflecting on actions & communications. But HE never ACTIVELY pursued Rachel, never had a relationship with her, and never expressed feelings for her. It was all in HER head. And you stop talking to your best friend over THAT? He deserves to lose both of them. If Jake acted inappropriately or felt guilty for his actions, that's one thing. But OP is punishing Jake (and himself) for Rachel's actions. And for that, he's stupid.
This guy is a 3 time loser. He made no attempts to uncover the truth He let her gaslight him to the very end He let her create a distance between him and his friend, even after acknowledging shes the one who put in all the effort in pursuit. He's learned nothing and will be bitter and old if he doesn't seek therapy
confused here he finaly answered the phone call from his mothr but his comments are responses to jake and they were at the reception following the wedding when people spoke including Rachael so how did he leave here at the altar hmmmmm
Dude you're family and friends plus others where there, they heard the same thing, why are you still decision the situation. So what she liked another dude, at least it was out in the open, then yrs of cheating behind you're back. That's what happens when you allow a dude around your girl, don't matter the relationship bruh.
AITA for leaving my fiancée at the altar after her wedding speech humiliated me?
She didn't know how to tell him? So she waited until the greatest moment of humiliation and heartache possible to tell EVERYONE. She doesn't deserve forgiveness. She doesn't deserve closure. She doesn't deserve the opportunity to apologize and get it off HER chest.
So… not only did she humiliate you, but she managed to take away your best friendship… kudos to her.
Why would you do that after you got married? She should have had that discussion with OP BEFORE they got married. How selfish and cruel.
The marriage doesn't count if you don't send the paperwork to the appropriate authority.
Yes, but legally, the officiant has to turn in the paperwork after the people say "I do". They can't just not turn it in because they've decided the relationship isn't going to work. In this case, the guy can get an annulment because she deceived him. If he moves to divorce right away, he will be golden. The key to an annulment is not accepting the person AFTER you fins out about the deceit. You have a very limited time to annul after you find something out. If you try to forgive, you will end up being unable to annulment because you've accepted the person after knowing about their deceit.
annulment can be done
@@balltonge79 and probably a cause for the damage he sustained.
@@crazifyitNo the officiant does not have to turn it in. That is the bride and groom's responsibility.
That is true. However, either the bride or groom can get a witness to testify that the marriage did take place on that date and get a new marriage certificate and if they turn that in the wedding is official.
Jake might not have had an affair with her but he clearly had encouraged her in the past. OP described how he shared private laughs/moments with her which shows he knew she was giving him attention/ that she felt attracted to him but he enjoyed it instead of cutting it off. OP is not wrong in distrusting his friend
I am 100% sure that Hake knew about this. He was literally cheating with Rachel behind OP’s back. I would never speak to Jake as well. Jake is trying to play the victim.
She knew and Jake had to have known, their secret messages. Their secret laugh, their closeness. HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN!!! She waited till the worst possible moment!!! I would SUE HER FOR THE COST OF THE WEDDING!!! I hope she's never ever happy.
If this story had been real, Jake the best friend is at no fault any more than the jilted groom for being oblivious that the fiancee was in love with Jake. Jake is full on bro's before 304's and shot down even communicating with the fiancee after the wedding. The friendship with Jake should still be solid because he did nothing wrong and shot down the fiancee.
From my own life experiences when I was much younger, I can see how an immature woman can form an attachment to someone other than their partner. My best friend from grade school had a girlfriend our senior year of high school and we hung out together a lot. I was usually a "third wheel" because I didn't have a girlfriend...heck, I was so shy around women I was interested in dating that I didn't even go on my first date until AFTER I graduated high school. When I did start dating, my best friend's girlfriend got noticeably jealous. Eventually she confronted me that she felt like my new girlfriend took away "one" of her boyfriends. There's more to the story, but this is all the time I want to put towards it other than specifying that I did not betray my best friend.
Exactly.
He needs to sue her for the cost of the wedding and emotional distress. Sue for the cost of the wedding for sure.
This is an obviously far-fetched story.
It’s AI
He dodged bullets like Neo.
Wel, she did him a favour.
I'm sorry but what did Jake do 💀
OP don't cut off your friend. He seems just as blind sided as you were. Go get an annulment and sue her for the costs associated with the wedding. I would not meet with her if she wants closure tell her to find a door.!!
Doesn't the brides family normally pay for the wedding?
@Dstoku21 Sometimes. My wife and I paid for our wedding the only thing her mom and and dad paid for was her dress. We covered all other associated costs. What this witch did was beyond disrespectful. She had ample time prior to the wedding to call it off without pulling the crap she did. And then tried to back peddle on her story after she got crap about it.
Weakling found.
Betrayal can't be forgiven.
@@kwakithailand Honestly, if his friend didn't know it's on Rachel not him. I would be in a similar situation. I am pretty close with the wife of a friend of mine. We both share a hoby and my friend trusts me enough to be ok with it. And she doesn't even show signs of more than friendship. Nothing we do is anything we wouldn't do in front of our spouses.
If she would drop such a bombshell I would be as blindsided as my friend would be. And while I would understand his distrust I would try to fix anything if fixable. OOPs woman not only humiliated him in public. She deliberately tried to destroy their friendship. She showed it by contacting the dude only to find he isn't giving up on his friend. She tried to play them and failed. That's where her last mail came from.
@@Asperger0815the fact that she actually came to apologize immediately after shows she only wants to get it off her chest not actually make amends and repair the damage. You don't GET to have closure lady. You don't get to get this off your chest. Its your horrific sin that you must bear.
How can you blame your friend when he did the same thing you did? You weren't sure and ignored it, and so did your friend. You two sound like best buds.
Yeah.I don't believe jake wasn't doing anything. The inside.
Joke at the table before they changed the subject.If it wasn't a big deal.Why not include him in it?What was he hiding Jake just decided it wasn't worth.Losing his best friend over this girl.So he lied about it he knew. I would have asked him to print out the conversations.Them too had on his phone for him to prove it. Guarantee, he would have found that Jake was not Innocent the whole time.
Don't get close to like that with your best friend's girlfriend
I think I read somewhere a similar story but just short and straightforward. Jake never realised that Rachel has feelings for him, and was shocked to at the confession. And cut contact with Rachel even after her divorce although she tried to contact him afterwards.
No way the 304 and the “best friend” weren’t screwing like rabbits the entire time. OP was just a clueless, weak wallet who allowed the 304 to continue her relationship with Jake right under his blind nose.
At the end, OP says he’s learned to “trust his instincts.” What instincts? Clearly he has none because his fiancee and her boyfrie…er, I mean OP’s best friend, were carrying on right in front of him for a long, long time.
Jake is not the innocent bystander he’s trying to portray. Excise both from your life.
funny how op knew exactly what was happening but the simp in him stopped him to act upon that
He missed so many red flags because he is a simp and a wimp.
100% 😂😂
100%. Real men never let their women have male friends.
Thank you.
Jake is not to be trusted.
I'm with you, l wouldn't trust your friend either, no body is that blind! You had all they red flags in front of your & did nothing do, don't put all they blame on her you are also to blame!
Why the hell would she wait to do this after she said her vows tho?
@@TheBerkeleyBeauty Exactly a totally stupid thing to do.
Stupid made up story.
Because its fiction.
What a lame post that keeps going over and over. Dude get a spine and and make a decision.
What did she intend to accomplish by broadcasting her feeling just after the ceremonies. Disgusting woman. This is a story on how destroy a man. Bullshit.
Why the heck would he meet with her? Move and start over somewhere else.
WTF, THEN MARRY JAKE, THIS STORY SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS THE ONE WHO BETRAYED YOU. ONE THING IS SURE, THAT GIRL WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH YOU. AND IF SHE NEVER HAD RELATIONS WITH JAKE, THEN HER INFATUATION SHOWS HOW IMMATURE SHE WAS, UNLESS JAKE LIED AND THEY MADE OUT, I DOUBT THAT GIRL AFTER SO LONG DIDN'T TRY SOMETHING WITH JAKE, AND NOT JUST BEFORE THE WEDDING. I DON'T BELIEVE JAKE. I BET THEY WERE LOVERS, AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO HIDE IT BECAUSE THE GIRL MADE PUBLIC HER INFATUATION.
Why are you yelling?
@MoistTowelette125 WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING?
WHY DIDN’Y JAKE TELL HIM?!!!
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wow red flags abound.
Op was a wimp. He was lacking in a backbone n allowed her 2 embarrass him like that. She made that confession n he left him at alter n he was left paralysed n couldn't do anything?! Even ran 2 be a cabin n let her control the narrative.
N jake attempts 2 go after her?! Thats suspect. Instead of being there 4 op, that was his intended action?! Yea ok.
N jake acts like he never knew?! Bs. He just doubted she'd been so shameless n bold 2 do that at the wedding.
But still op was a simp, he still met her after she embarrassed him like that?!
Again, 4 jake 2 not know she loved him (n for yrs) yea ok, even having inside jokes, side glances?! It was more than that imo.
Dec2024: It's obvious Bride had been with intimate with Bestie many times over a long period. Events overtook her and she didn't confess until just after the vows. Only then did Bride realized her perfect life was over and not just beginning. Groom was about to take her away from the man she loved.
Retired in Sacto.
I cant believe how many people think this is real
BS STORY.........Um, wedding speeches are given AFTER the ceremony, so how could he leave her at the alter AFTER her speech? Oh, and brides don't give one - the maid of honor does. SMH........
This is why you dont get married these days men must at least TRY to understand that women settle with you dont give them the pleaaure.
Ladys ,and men, pleased if your not % sure about marriage don't do it .!!
@@jorgenflykt7056 still yes a husband MUST keep his wife very happy. Most men don't know how too. Wham bam iam done you!! If done right no need to ask!
Sorry but there is no way that Jake didn't know the fiance was into him. He did nothing to create distance or try to back her off. From OP's story it sounds like Jake was way too involved in their relationship and a constant third wheel because of how close he was to the OP. I hope the OP learned his lesson not to let other guys, even good friends, constantly associate with his girlfriend.
This happened to me ages ago when I was in my 20's. A very good friend's girlfriend ended up getting a little too close and friendly over a couple of years. The second I suspected that she was getting into me I ghosted the pair of them. I talked to him as little as possible without giving anything away and stayed well away from her. After a couple of weeks of this she tried calling me at home to talk. I blew her off by saying I was headed out for a date (a lie) and that the reason I hadn't seen them lately was because I was spending all my time with a new girlfriend (sorta true but me and her weren't that involved yet). Anyway that seemed to do the trick because she didn't contact me again. It sucked to basically have to sideline our friendship over her but no way was I going to be the one to break them up. Don't tell me I should have told him about her, there was nothing solid to point to yet, no evidence, I just knew. Just like Jake had to have known in this story.
I feel the little sisters energy 👊
The guy doesn't think much of anything
If there was no actual cheating, why would OP be angry with Jake? Why didn;t Rachael ask OP at coffee what they were going to do moving forward?! Why would Jake be saying he was sorry and "didn't want to hurt him?!" This makes no f-ing sense.......
This was dumb. She got married to guy, and never wanted him. Annulment time. Also, supper odd
I think you should marry Jake.
He must have taken his sister offer. Met the ex wife on quiet place let the sister make her magic and testify the wife has attacked the sister and the sister defended herself. Being a woman and two witness on her side, no risk. They wife would have learnt how to behave.
Not once did she said she loved him
Nta op please dont trust jake he is the type of person who will betrayed you the moments he have chance
Like a story ( rever scorpion and the frog )
Why waiting for the wedding day?
OP is an idiot. Breaking up with Rachel and ending communication, I understand. But his issue with Jake is stupid. Jake DIDN'T EVEN KNOW how Rachel felt, and was just as shocked as he was at her announcement. Jake couldn't even see anything amiss until AFTER her announcement and him reflecting on actions & communications. But HE never ACTIVELY pursued Rachel, never had a relationship with her, and never expressed feelings for her. It was all in HER head. And you stop talking to your best friend over THAT? He deserves to lose both of them. If Jake acted inappropriately or felt guilty for his actions, that's one thing. But OP is punishing Jake (and himself) for Rachel's actions. And for that, he's stupid.
This guy is a 3 time loser.
He made no attempts to uncover the truth
He let her gaslight him to the very end
He let her create a distance between him and his friend, even after acknowledging shes the one who put in all the effort in pursuit.
He's learned nothing and will be bitter and old if he doesn't seek therapy
Who wrote this crap, an 8 year old?
Your biggest mistake was to meet her and for what
confused here he finaly answered the phone call from his mothr but his comments are responses to jake and they were at the reception following the wedding when people spoke including Rachael so how did he leave here at the altar hmmmmm
He used the mother’s cell phone to get in contact with him since he wouldn’t answer him. Jake did this because OP probably thought he was involved.
Dude you're family and friends plus others where there, they heard the same thing, why are you still decision the situation. So what she liked another dude, at least it was out in the open, then yrs of cheating behind you're back. That's what happens when you allow a dude around your girl, don't matter the relationship bruh.
Annulment.
So... absolutely none of that happened.
Jesus Bro, Jake is your FRIEND. SMGDH.