Norton Reinvented Rotary Engine

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  • Despite its simplicity and power-to-weight ratio, the Wankel engine is deemed unreliable and weak at low revs. It is true, it certainly isn't suitable for daily driving, but for racing, it is a different story. Norton managed to create a Sachs's single rotor into a twin-dorito spinning beast dominating numerous racing events.
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  • @finlaymcdiarmid5832
    @finlaymcdiarmid5832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    Theres not a huge amount of coverage on this bike despite its impressive performance and usage, like on the isle of man. thanks for taking the time to make this.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      im sure we can do a much better rotary engine with current advancement in engineering materials today!

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing Norton lost more than races... was customers!

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fidelcatsro6948 Wankel engines are obsolete technology.
      Rotary bikes have been obsolete for nearly a century.

    • @micahshelton5723
      @micahshelton5723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandervanderkammen9230 look up rob dahm

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@micahshelton5723 *ROB DAHM!!!!*
      *The Clickbait King of the Rotards???*
      The Coked-out Florida drug dealer that sells Tee shirts with his name all over them and claims to be a software engineer???
      Rob Dahm the ass clown that pays other people to build his shit and then it blows up???
      The Rob Dahm that posts drunk videos about how great it is to mix Cocaine with Adderall???
      *That Rob Dahm?????*

  • @IronMetal
    @IronMetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Rotaries are pieces of art of automotive history, no matter it's a DKW, NSU, Norton or Mazda, it's peak engineering

    • @talisikid1618
      @talisikid1618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really.

    • @IronMetal
      @IronMetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@talisikid1618 then I don't know why you watched this video 🤔

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't really know anything about Wankel engines do you?

    • @jijisniet
      @jijisniet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dont forget about the other participants of rotary engineering. Lada, Citroen, Mercedes Benz and Chevrolet ;)

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jijisniet Ford, Porsche, Rolls-Royce, Curtiss-Wright, Toyota, Honda, OMC, American Motors, Deutz, Ingersoll-Rand, Alfa Romeo, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Yanmar, Lycoming, John Deere. NASA, The U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Navy..

  • @trailingarm63
    @trailingarm63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    If that 2021 bike is too successful the big manufacturers will conspire to have it banned. Great video, superb research, well done.

    • @edwardmulder3777
      @edwardmulder3777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      big companies don't like better competition, smaller netter companies tend to "disappear"

    • @noname-wo9yy
      @noname-wo9yy ปีที่แล้ว

      They did get it banned in some classes

  • @tomsmith2209
    @tomsmith2209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Amazing engineering. When certain people get obsessed with an idea, the results can be spectacular.

  • @dirklerxstprof2112
    @dirklerxstprof2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember watching Ron Haslam racing a JPS Norton Rotary, the exhaust pipe was glowing a dull Red ( awesome ). It was rapid on the straight but the piston engine bikes caught up on the corners due to the Norton having to rely on brakes alone ( not a combination of brakes and engine ) to slow down, once out of the corners the Norton left them for dead... amazing engineering and amazing exhaust sound...Great upload VisioRacer, thank You.

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    5:57 Norton should have concentrated on developing the time machine that enabled them to get PCs and CAD software in the 1970s

  • @mainlander6299
    @mainlander6299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Probably one of the best short videos on the Norton rotary, well done 👍

  • @Nafeels
    @Nafeels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The 1990 Isle of Man TT footage with the Norton F1s passing through the narrow tracks is, without a lack of a better word, PURE EARGASM.
    Also, what a good research for this video! I didn’t know the Norton rotaries were inspired by both Rolls-Royce and Sachs units, and its heritage still lives on to this day under Rotron! Glad to know that there’s more than just Mazda and LiquidPiston actively developing rotary engines.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sadly strict emission laws today are causing many manufacturers to go electric instead

    • @Nafeels
      @Nafeels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fidelcatsro6948 Wasn't just about the emissions too. Electric power (brushless motor technology, not battery or the charging tech) is already WAY more efficient today in terms of performance and mileage compared to an internal combustion engine and I expect it to improve quicker in the future.
      However, while I'm still alive I'll be cherishing the internal combustion engine as long as possible, especially rotary engines. Mazda recently patented a three-rotor sports car design with hybrid assist, to which I'll gladly take that knowing I could have the option to hear the braps.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nafeels yes i agree, electric is very efficient, the only problem is getting the most energy stored in a battery as tiny as possible

    • @Toxic88088
      @Toxic88088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Nafeels electric is far from being efficient or effective as IC engines, atleast at the moment. You might live in a place where the conditions favour the batteries but where I live, dust and heat are causing batteries to blow and not to mention the fuel economy and the practicality. Also remember we're still getting a major part of our electricity from fossils, so we're aren't as clean as we think we are. IC's will be here for the next 50 years.

    • @lordjaashin
      @lordjaashin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Nafeels you fail to take into account that the problem with EV is not electric motor but battery technology. manufacturing batteries is highly polluting process. not to mention that batteries onoy have life of 8 years or even less if you are making miles above 100k miles. city dwellers who like to change cars every 5 years, with good access to electric charging points will be satisfied with EVs.

  • @Jestersson
    @Jestersson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video! That Crichton 700 is simply amazing. Love to see one for myself.

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wow bring back the rotary engine to the masses!!...i heard Suzuki also almost went bankrupt dwelling into Rotary R&D in the 70s

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's a guy called Mad Mike Widette who's trying his hardest mate, give him and his 4-rotar mazdas a look 👀 he's made the best little drift cars, and thats quite a statement!
      I noticed his kid has nicked his mx5 drift car and is learning how to drift too, some wholesome family driving content there too 😊

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mor4y will do that!

    • @Toxic88088
      @Toxic88088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also "rob dahm" he also has a AWD 1700HP 4 rotor in the works!

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1970's were filled with "energy scandals" which forced manufacturers to do things that set them way back, or put them out of business. There was no stinking oil shortage or energy shortage. It was forced by globalists.

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Toxic88088 yeah I should have tacked Rob on as well, he makes great motors a lot of the fun mechanical parts 🙂 it's just mad Mike drifting quite literally backwards into corners kinda grabs all my attention!
      There's also a really good ancient police video floating around somewhere of a random Aussie pulled over with a blinged out classic 6-rotar mazda estate, poor guy thinks he's getting a ticket, really its just a couple of car mad cops wanting a better look at his car! I think Mike was making something similar for himself.... but just a cruiser, not a drifter :)

  • @slartybartfarst9737
    @slartybartfarst9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looked for 22 years for a low miles DKW W2000 rotatory found a Hercules with 1,400 miles rusty tank and chrome but not a mark in the rotor housing. 100 hrs of renovation later back to factory spec I use it loads its a bloody hoot to ride.

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      300cc if memory serves me right.

    • @slartybartfarst9737
      @slartybartfarst9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@madb132 I believe that was to considered opinion of the W2000 capacity. DKW called it the W2000 as they beloved by the year 2000 every bike would be a Wankle

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slartybartfarst9737 Not seen one for years They handled really well from what I recall , last time i ridden one. Hope you're enjoying yours to the full. Can't be many left.

    • @slartybartfarst9737
      @slartybartfarst9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madb132 Yea it handles real good but Cerini front and rear bouncy bits Grimicia disc brake means its still good for today. Problem I have is getting to talk with thats ridden one. I rebuilt mine and refurbed the carb, it had a corroded needle jet. It fired up almost first try blew smoke to fill the street and has been dead reliable ever since but its always hunted or surged on low throttle openings. Anything below 50mph in top does not put enough load on the engine for the throttle to be open more than an 1/8th and the bike is 4 stroking and surging, the lower the speed/smaller the throttle opening the more it does it. Its like an old BSA Bantam on part throttle.
      Can you remember if the bike you rode did the same or if it was managable on very small throttle openings?

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slartybartfarst9737 It was the very same reason rode it. the owner asked me to take it for a ride and if I could fix it. Got it running better but wasn't quite perfect but he was pleased. Played with different carbs from my vague memory can recall. Today tho i would be tempted to go FI. Have you had the carb ultrasonic cleaned? complete strip and then have it done. twice if need be. renew all parts with new. should run better. when I rid 2 strokes I always rid with the throttle partially open , hard habit to break as i still do it now!

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There's actually a good amount of small rotary engines that got stuffed into things like these bikes. Iv also seen single rotor golf carts and a few other things. People use these engines for little swaps. Fun stuff 🤙

  • @mor4y
    @mor4y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh wow, I remember the noise the JPS beasts used to make, a couple of them were brought to a track near me to show them off at a sidecar racing weekend when I was a kid. I swear you could hear the riders screaming as they went past 🤣

  • @wickiezulu
    @wickiezulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    One Norton rotary was said to have been fitted to an Austin Metro from 1981-1983, the car was demonstrated to Austin Rover who lost interest when they found it out-accelerated their MG Metro Turbo. However from Oliver Winterbottom's book A Life in Car Design, the above was likely connected with a project between Norton and Lotus known as Project Nora for a Norton rotary-engine coupe around the same period that amounted to nothing when it became apparent the rotary engine was not ready for automotive use.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Norton used Sachs engines

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The engine was not the Problem, It was the crap ass car they stuck it in!🤣

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madb132 Sachs saw the writing on the wall, sold everything to Norton cheap.... Norton management was obviously not very bright.

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandervanderkammen9230 Yeah, I know. me is 62 old biker. Fun watching them Race, tho too claim they were only 580cc was taking the piss.

    • @stefenmitchell4112
      @stefenmitchell4112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madb132 please explain your thinking behind that taking the piss claim

  • @dyggiprahl9881
    @dyggiprahl9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have had 2 of them a p41/42 ex police bike I build ad a cafe racer and still got a F1. These engines are so amazing, but people don't believe in them. Brian Crighton got 200+ hp out the old 588 design and have continued. It died to death after FIA (officially) banned them yes, unofficially tho, a lot of money was payed to FIA people from everyone who didnt have wankel race engines (read everyone but Norton and Mazda).
    I could go on forever on these engines !!!!
    Sorry for the edits, I have the whole history of the Nortons and all the different people fighting to get from my brain to my keyboard 🤣

  • @kevinmccorkle7476
    @kevinmccorkle7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Got to love those Norton's 😁

  • @RenanBorges96
    @RenanBorges96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yo Visio!! Try to make a video about Mercedes M275 engine. This one has amazing sound and is a monster of torque. Congratulations on the content mate!

    • @quartusbuys6831
      @quartusbuys6831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was that the Mercedes C111 with gullwing doors?

    • @RenanBorges96
      @RenanBorges96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quartusbuys6831 This engine equiped the SL/CL/S 65 amg, and Pagani Huayra

  • @Mr9Guns
    @Mr9Guns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rotaries make even more sense in a motorcycle than in a car. the downsides less important and it's positive attributes maximized.

  • @Zweefduiker
    @Zweefduiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe it is nice to know that Midwest developed the Norton 294cc wankel single rotor into a certified aircraft engine. The AE-50R. Most of the Norton technology was still used. My glider, a Alexander Schleicher ASH-26E, has one installed. Rated 50 hp at 7400 rpm. Beginning of the 90s, Midwest was taken over by Austro Engines, who developed this further into a fuel injected variant which is still in use as glider powerplant. Look up ASH-21 Mi, ASH-31 Mi and ASH-32 Mi. At Austro there were even developments of more powerful versions but they never made it into airplanes..

  • @Rockstago
    @Rockstago ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have always loved & believed that the Wankel design would 1 day become a great platform, it would just take time to sort out its limitations. This 700cc version sounds very promising- I hope that technology is expanded upon soon. A rotary seems like a perfect match for Moto-GP & Superbike racing.

  • @Bittahmasta
    @Bittahmasta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for all the work you put into your videos. It always blows my mind how you are able to source information on sometimes obscure power plants and present it concisely…thank you!

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My pleasure, mate

  • @chasevans7171
    @chasevans7171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    National motorcycle museum in the UK has probably the most comprehensive Norton collection in the world. Not to mention the hundreds of other brand British bikes.

  • @everythingexe
    @everythingexe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo my build guide made it in the video!! I love rotaries!

  • @noompunk
    @noompunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I'm very interested in Crighton bike(s).

  • @BattlecatRed
    @BattlecatRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing sound from those rotaries. Excellent video!

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems any attempt to revive the Norton and BSA brands is just smoke and mirrors today.

  • @thedownhillerboy
    @thedownhillerboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing to see this lecture on Norton's rotary engine, I would love to see it coming back again into the bike competition world,I mean just the sound alone makes it to be so desirable 👌🏻👏🏻👍🏻.

  • @rogercamp2910
    @rogercamp2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Suzuki also had the RF 5 rotary. I had one for 5 months, japanese crap. A firend of mine has 2 Nortons, still running today.

  • @HomebrewSubaru
    @HomebrewSubaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing that JPS logo brings back some memories 👍

  • @CaptHollister
    @CaptHollister ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The displacement of 588cc isn't really true. In reality, engineers don't agree on how to calculate the displacement of a Wankel. While some would say the Norton was 588cc, many would say it was really 1764cc. It all depends on how many chambers in the rotor housing you measure. Certainly its fuel consumption was equivalent to a 1.8L engine.

  • @racerj2.03
    @racerj2.03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aah! The engine that killed NORTON! Just Saying.

  • @CaptHollister
    @CaptHollister ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problems with Wankel engines aren't only unreliability and lack of power at low revs. The Wankel is a fundamentally flawed design.

  • @x808drifter
    @x808drifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "the Wankel engine is deemed unreliable and weak at low revs. It is true, it certainly isn't suitable for daily driving,"
    Don't let Rob Dahm hear you say that.

  • @TheSilviu8x
    @TheSilviu8x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for letting us know about this! I never knew they even exist, it's absolutely incredible why's that they never sold well, i suppose they were too far ahead of their time!
    It's a real shame they didn't get the proper recognition, but again, wrong country, UK is all about those clasic thumpers, brain shaking out of the skull type of tractor bikes...

    • @TheSilviu8x
      @TheSilviu8x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @goinghomesomeday1 yeah, i have a thumper myself right now, haha, but I've once driven hard, one healthy Rx8 and never recovered after that experience...
      Cars or whatever other than motorcycles are absolutely wrong with that concept, but wrenching on it, off a bike, is absolutely desired, at least for some of us...

    • @jamesrindley6215
      @jamesrindley6215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rotary engine just isn't as good as a piston engine in the vast majority of applications. They have a total loss lubrication system so they pollute badly and there's no way around it. The apex seals fail early and the fuel consumption is bad. The only application for them is where power to weight ratio outweighs these many problems.

    • @madb132
      @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They never sold very well because they kept breaking and were too expensive for the masses.

  • @TorquilBletchleySmythe
    @TorquilBletchleySmythe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was a stunningly accurate replica built in Australia back in the early 1990s. It may still be floating around. And yes, it ran a modified Norton Rotary built as close to spec as possible. Norton were very reluctant to provide any assistance, so the builder had to work everything out himself. From what I read at the time, his lack of data relating to the intake manifold length led to superior results over the original engine once he had the length dialled in. Karma, eh?

  • @Abyss-Will
    @Abyss-Will 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "water cooling was proposed but allegedly would not be well receibed by customers"
    Customers: yes we want out engines to overheat and burn, fuck cooling.

  • @Veldtian1
    @Veldtian1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Utterly magnificent, thank you Mr Crighton.

  • @sineadmclaughlin3095
    @sineadmclaughlin3095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh yes like it was yesterday. Trevor nation and Steve spray side by side across the line at Donnington. Ohh the JPS Nortons. I was lucky enough to be on the pit wall. 2 wheeled memories for life my little Castrol r lovers. Be good to one another. Always think bike.🏁🏁🇬🇧

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing Norton lost more than races... was customers!

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was junk when Wankel designed it, but you have to remember 2 strokes were still street marketable back in the day.....A tuned Kawasaki triple would wipe the floor with it, and not need an edge sealing refresh.
    True story......I was a mechanic at a Honda-Kawasaki-Suzuki dealership in the early '80's, and this cat came in to pick up his Suzuki Wankel that was there for a new tire.
    He came in just before closing, so we fished it out and rolled it onto the sidewalk by the parts door.
    Swear to god, he started it up, and went inside to pay the bill. I walked out after punching my time card to get in my car.....the thing was spewing coolant everywhere so I stood a second to see......He came out and said...."She does that sometimes".....still makes me laugh to tears....

    • @slamtailsuspension1933
      @slamtailsuspension1933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Wankel was and always will be an engine that never deserved the light of day. Fundamentally flawed in so many ways, the most import being a terrible shape combustion chamber that would never burn the fuel properly..

  • @smiththers2
    @smiththers2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds just like my rx7, love it!

  • @Tom-wl9sx
    @Tom-wl9sx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video. 👌

  • @Nick68S
    @Nick68S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching the Norton rotaries racing back in the day was something else.

  • @jacobwhicker8423
    @jacobwhicker8423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting, I never knew this much testing went into a rotary motorcycle I used to have an 04 rx8 manual and it did lack torque so I always said with the rotary advantages of smoothness and light weight it would be better in the lightest vehicle possible such as a bike or the Miata and that the rx8 would've been better with a 4 banger and skinny tires like what they did with the FRS/BRZ.. wonder why they didn't consider forced induction with the early Norton when trying to increase power numbers, assuming the tech wasn't really there yet plus longevity was also already an issue.. anyways I'd love to experience a modern rotary sport bike, mayb they could incorporate some carbon fiber internals somehow

  • @enricio
    @enricio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE vid! 🤸💪😎🦸

  • @fortitudevalance8424
    @fortitudevalance8424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suzuki did dabble into the rotary idea with the RE5 but so be it very briefly, not compared to Norton which sort of affected its reputation.

  • @Iowa599
    @Iowa599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad Nortan didn't team up with Mazda & add some spinny things. It would probably be quick enough to enter orbit, if it had boost!

    • @dyggiprahl9881
      @dyggiprahl9881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did put spinny bits on one of the race bikes. But to blow air through the engine as cooling before they went to the vacuum injector.

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video. Excellent subject matter with great research. Those are cool machines.

  • @markmcgrath9098
    @markmcgrath9098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember being amazed when I moved to the UK as a 16yo car nerd and finding out the UK police bikes were rotor motors.
    The constant complaints were in the media all the time.
    Having cone from Oz where all the police bikes were BMW k100 and super reliable I was amazed they persisted with it.
    Clearly I wasn’t a rotary fan at the time.

  • @dukie1616
    @dukie1616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a quite excellent👍 Very well done👏 Thank you

  • @danielneubauer4671
    @danielneubauer4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As the temperature of 20°c is referring to a temperature difference rather than to an absolute temperature the correct conversion would be 36°F.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not take into account the fact that 0 °C does not equal 0 °F, but rather 32 °F. Since I am used to a freezing point being zero degrees, it completely slipped my mind when converting into Fahrenheit.

    • @danielneubauer4671
      @danielneubauer4671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisioRacer I just thought I would let you know. I really appreciate the technical insight you communicate in your videos. Thank you for all the effort! Greetings from Austria.

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster หลายเดือนก่อน

    They should make a series of 1, 2, and 3-rotor motorcycles that are between 50-70hp per rotor depending on the state of tune and supposed chassis they're going in. That alone would give them a whole lineup of bikes they could make in every segment and for every rider skill level. I'd like a 2 rotor version placed in something like an AAR Alligator chassis with Robert Horn's Virtual Hub Center front end. Either that or the least powerful 3 rotor version purely for the sound of a 3 rotor.

  • @peekaboo4390
    @peekaboo4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow , a serious engine and bike for shure, This channel always delivers .

  • @brakenoodle105
    @brakenoodle105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rode a Norton rotary during a factory visit and it was brilliant. Engineering wise, it's hard to fault. But it never had a place to go and was marketed poorly. The Interpol was only sold to fleet markets, not the public, so not volume sales. Compared with a BMW comparable machine, the Norton had some silly design fails. Norton also must have been living on the moon to not know how so many companies experimented with wankels and stopped there and those few that went to production failed (DKW W2000, Suzuki RE5, Van Veen OCR1000 etc). It was doomed from the start as a business proposition even if it went well as a motorcycle.

  • @kaptainkatz318
    @kaptainkatz318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Norton is now owned by TVS India. May Norton would rise like Royal Enfield and Jawa when they got owned by Indian companies. But Pakistanis and Brits got pain in their A***oles.

  • @jdmfh47
    @jdmfh47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out the Liquid Piston X. It's a revamped rotary that overcomes all the downfalls.

  • @kimhicks8443
    @kimhicks8443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a pity they didn't reinvent the pension funds the previous owner of this brand embezzled from hard working people.

  • @downlowsyndrome3163
    @downlowsyndrome3163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suzuki also had rotary bike. Suzuki RE5. But the Norton F1 was the best.

  • @zippyt.libertine3787
    @zippyt.libertine3787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like everything the Brits built for transportation, you had to be a mechanic to own or drive one. As long as they stuck to their farm tractor technology they were ok. The Van Veen was a much more exciting bike.

  • @RandyHartono
    @RandyHartono 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Big woooow and thanks 🙏 🇮🇩 for the review

  • @user-lj6gk4lv9s
    @user-lj6gk4lv9s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad to put a lifetime into this, and it becomes a quirky footnote.

  • @dano4572
    @dano4572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i want one TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or as soon as possible!! i have cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @CubeHsiao
    @CubeHsiao 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to say that the rotary engine technology has been suppressed for many years but but wouldn’t be today !

  • @BigBadLoneWolf
    @BigBadLoneWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suzuki also had a rotary engine'd bike in the mid seventies. Suzuki R5

  • @ccubsfan94
    @ccubsfan94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should get in with audible to do book narrations. The accent is lovely and calming.

  • @w210black
    @w210black 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do one on buses like gillig mercedes neoplane sentra ect

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rider would never be cold sitting over the engine. Modern emissions would kill this motor unless the exhaust well designed.

  • @Hopeless_and_Forlorn
    @Hopeless_and_Forlorn ปีที่แล้ว

    Piston engines are better than Wankels in every way. That's why you don't see Wankels any more.

  • @GeorgeFafa
    @GeorgeFafa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suzuki also had a wankel, 1974.

  • @margarita8442
    @margarita8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    light up a john player special and relax boy

  • @professormadlad7773
    @professormadlad7773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think motorcycle companies should do more research into the rotary engine.

  • @Robert-ff9wf
    @Robert-ff9wf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend restored A Norton Comando with the combat engine. He rode it for years.

  • @lucienfury2606
    @lucienfury2606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah but it was still a rotary engine and no matter what they did you make it better it was still a mistake using it.

  • @wheelerd02
    @wheelerd02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:47 *Brap Brap*
    Loved the video man, been a subscriber for some time now. Keep up the good work ❤️

  • @Jodyrides
    @Jodyrides 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better than the Suzuki RE5? Suzuki still had engines for the RE5 in stock In some of its warehouses in the US as of six years ago
    I remember a controversy about the Norton rotary when it was competing in road racing. The officials did not know whether declare it a 500 mL or a 1500 mL engine because of the three sided rotor. I’m not sure about the initial displacement but it was an issue

  • @sasukekonoxa
    @sasukekonoxa ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you found all of this info, just want to read more about it

  • @joseveintegenario-nisu1928
    @joseveintegenario-nisu1928 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sachs KM-914 had two versions, stationary engine and snowmobile engine, both 303 cc per chamber, from a Rotor slightly larger than 294 cc Rotor in KM-24 and KC-27.
    The gains from a more complex and elaborated Rotor recess in Aixro, charge Cooled Rotor, liquid cooled housing kart and parapente and ultralight airplane engine are impressive.
    Austro had also gains by adopting the Rotor recess shape of early Yanmar Diesel Wankel.
    Wankel Rotary Engine still has a lot to say.
    Who'll have last laugh?
    Gesund +

  • @jamesbraun7709
    @jamesbraun7709 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was late 70's Suzuki had a rotary as well .

  • @enriquealvarez4702
    @enriquealvarez4702 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats amazing no wear on the rotor. Sounds too good to be true.

  • @pizzagogo6151
    @pizzagogo6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always believed wankle rotary was really a bike engine that was mistakenly put into cars 🤔Would have been a perfect replacement for changing over from 2-strokes, the excitement/lack of weight of a 2-strokes but with important characteristics of 4-strokes ( plus nearly all the known disadvantages with rotary become less important in sportsbike) = brilliant engine for a bike😀.. Such a shame rotaries weren’t more widely adopted & developed sufficiently for bikes.

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last race bike could have the coolest engine and all the engineering in the world but that lone shock mounted outboard it's the biggest afterthought EVER !
    SAME GOES TO YOU, ENERGICA ! ☹👎💩

  • @ivanrowland6353
    @ivanrowland6353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen Nation and Haslam racing these bikes

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not really follow motorcycle racing.
    That said, I had no idea _Wankel/Rotary_ powered motorcycles were still a 'thing' in racing in the 21st century.

  • @larryrosa2327
    @larryrosa2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey mr. cool.......... thank you for this GREAT video..... that last part engine.....i want in MX offroad.

  • @maya00795
    @maya00795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last one is too good 🆒🆒🤠🤠🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩👏👏👍🏻🤘🏻 thanks buddy

  • @georgeyoung4292
    @georgeyoung4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate to dream about things i cant have😭 That last bike men😍 Gona be hard to make peace with never owning it😡 200hp-140kg WTF🥳

  • @rm25088
    @rm25088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that f1 sounds amazing

  • @michaelgautreaux3168
    @michaelgautreaux3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet! Have always been in ❤️ w/ these Norton's! Finding out about the Crightons is fabulous! GR8 vid and many thanx 👍👍

  • @1silvervespa
    @1silvervespa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Workingbon it since 1969 well we see part of the problem ....feet dragging.

  • @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
    @FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That norton was such a beautiful motorcycle. Too bad they did not keep producing it.

  • @martinfisker7438
    @martinfisker7438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is on my mind one of your best videos ever. Lots of research done, and i love how you followed Crighton after his Norton days.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Crighton really hasn't done anything since his Norton days...

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Martin, I appreciate it!

  • @scottyjones27
    @scottyjones27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had NO idea Norton used spinner engine

  • @briankleinschmidt3664
    @briankleinschmidt3664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought they went out of business 50 years ago. That modern bike looks like any other rice burner.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct, Norton is long gone. Killed off by the Wankel engine.
      Actually the Crieghton is nothing but an old Norton assembled from spare parts and dressed up with new fenders and fairings

  • @madb132
    @madb132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was the best Rotary because NO ONE else was making them for motorbikes!😂

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      MEGOLA made Rotary bikes.. Norton made Wankel bikes using Sachs engines.

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea this even existed. If the oil consumption problem of rotaries is fixed on this engine, is there an emission or efficiency problem? Is it still too complex and expensive to compete with pistons?

  • @robertwoodliff2536
    @robertwoodliff2536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for putting this up..........can you please do a piece on the Norton Wolf step piston.?

  • @PGuess
    @PGuess 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Robert Dunlop. RIP

  • @BartBe
    @BartBe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you pronounce devil-elopement. 😄👍🏻

  • @davonmulder8458
    @davonmulder8458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow i have been wondering about this bike for a while, THANKS

  • @YTRopp
    @YTRopp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dutch company Van Veen also made rotary motorcycle (2-rotor)

  • @prashantraikar7813
    @prashantraikar7813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man even Wikipedia, would not have all these info, love the RnD of this engine.