As per the announcements at the end of this video, here are some important links: Submit your work to me: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdTNSXO3rHpLpahGT5t4SdDQDLHimS9fqPE6CD3LChAsULGPw/viewform?usp=sf_link P.O. Box 901989 Sandy, UT 84090 VODs channel: th-cam.com/channels/O0YeEVZLQSerJnqtAdkq7g.html Patreon: patreon.com/RoughestDrafts?Link& Instagram: instagram.com/roughestdrafts99/ Twitter: twitter.com/RoughestDrafts Thanks everyone!
I think you looking over peoples work is a competitor for the most valuable thing this channel could acheive. When dabblers to professional writers struggle to receive impactful feedback... feedback as tho the writting I spent weeks berating myself over was a casual showing of a photo of my pet. :) I think its a wonderful bit and I hope that your second channel receives more attention. "When anything can happen from inspiration, you could be the one to provide that inspiration to one, who would then go on to inspire others, who would then be inspired, and dominos will fall from the empire state building in crash of inspiration. With the Roughest Draft starring as King Draft shouting atop the building. An inspiration to all." - Somebody probably
What helps me feel a little better about my own music is remembering that even my favorite artists have made bad albums and even my favorite albums have at least one song I could do without, and that song is probably someone else's favorite
I wrote the first thing I have in about a month while watching this video. and of course its shite, but hey :) well... no I dont feel any better about it, but hey :) at least I did something.
Ive found that reading my work on a different format, usually as an ebook or kindle, helps me see it as something to judge more objectively and not pay attention to the fact that it’s my own work. If i were to read someone else’s published book on a word doc it’s like convincing the brain that it needs improving, so reading stuff in ways where usually published works are presented should help you read it more like an audience member and have an eye for observing it more fairly
I've been in a weird vortex for a while. In 2018/19 I started and finished a 30-page short story. Then, when the pandemic hit, I thought "hey, maybe I could use that time to turn it into a full novel". Well, it's 2024, and I'm constantly redrafting that thing, changing minor aspects constantly hoping to "fix" whatever new "mistake" I realize I made. It's been a frustrating and also enlightening insight into myself and I hope, truly, I can call it finished soon, even if I have to leave it full of "problems". There are so many other things I want to write too.
I love creating and sharing what I create. I wrote my first poem as soon as I could write and when I'm not writing I craft. In honoring the talent I am honoring the Guiding Force that blessed me. I'm not sure where I heard the saying "Every cloud is perfect, and changing" but it helped me greatly in realizing that perfection exists in everything being just as it is at any one moment and yet is always in transition. I struggle more with people comparing their view of their own imagined inadequacies to my desire to share what I create. In the words of a dear friend, "I am amazed by you and resentful of you at the same time." I have been praised but also accused of showing off. That to me is the greater obstacle to overcome.
i found your channel through your rupi kaur video and after watching a bunch of your stuff i must say it is so very good! this one goes hard too stay slaying
also-in my country's (turkey) regular curriculum we don't really do any poem analysis. we look at the poetic...uhhh...elements? like contrast allusion alliteration and the like in poems but we never really sit down w/ a poem and dissect it. and even tho it's kind of silly, your are songs poems video made me go "huh. thats neat i never thought of doing that" and then i immediately pulled up a fall out boy song to dissect. that's really fun actually. before this when i wanted to understand & analyze a poem I just stared at it real intensely and hoped that intensity of stare = how good it make sense in brain. now it's a little less intense staring and a little more thinking lol
“Perfection is the difference between a living deer and a deer mounted on the wall, which one would you rather observe?” Gonna keep that one in the quote book…thank you, truly, for making this video.
This was such a good video that I had to pause, write a little bit, get lunch and then come back to finish watching it. I'm not really a writer, I'm more of an illustrator and designer. But I would like to write a book and today I've worked on it thanks to you!
Sometimes I worry if I let myself like my work, I’ll won’t be able to make it reach its true potential. I worry too if it’s not as perfect as it can be, I’ll have in some way let the work down. I worry my play deserves a better writer than myself, and because of the nature of plays, they’re never really complete, even if they’re published or produced on stage. They’re ephemeral in a really magnificent yet disappointing kind of way. Even when performed they’re never done, and if performances cease they’re perpetually incomplete. I want the best for my play like one does for their child; I can only hope it lives a long life outside of me and my reach, but I can’t promise it that. I can only do my best to set it up for success, which I feel totally inadequate to achieve.
so excited for how your channel is growing! thanks for this awesome video. it really puts things into perspective and i was especially surprised by that Neil Armstrong story. we all have our strength and weaknesses, but pushing through the hard times and relying on trusted others to help us see ourselves as we truly are and what we can become is so important!
I'm headed into what I hope to be the final draft of my first book (draft 3), I'm panicking a bit. I'm worried about forgetting things, or it not being coherent even this far along. At the same time I'm driven by an absolute fury to get this story out, to have it live and breathe. This was a very good video, and a needed pick-me-up, thank you.
You are really cool, I am a visual artist and educator but I find your videos so relaxing and centering. Thank you for the work you do. Listening to your work has encouraged me to branch out from just visual art to start writing my thesis. Every time I think "I'm a bad writer" I reflect on how I improved at drawing. So thank you for the guidance.
I greatly enjoyed and appreciated this video. It enriches my sense of comaradery as a creative. When I get stuck with impostor syndrome, I remind myself that I'm doing what I do for self-fulfillment, and the important thing is to keep showing up, seeing what happens, and to have fun with it. It's not about producing something so much as seeing what I can learn from what I make. It often has something I needed to say even if I wasn't sure exactly what that was before I made it.
i'm so glad i found this channel!!! this video came to me just at the right time, thank you so much for this and for all the good work you do on here. this vid definitely helped me feel less like a failure and gave me motivation to keep going, just when i was about to give up.:) and your voice is very calming
Great video, man. Loved your insights and your empathetic approach to the issue that all of us writers face. Keep up the excellent work, definitely want to see more videos from you.
That was a really good video, and you put out your points very eloquently. I loved literature, and I loved writing, but with all the stresses and issues life handed me with I found that I had little time to actually continue the things that I love. Except, I don't think that was ever true, I think it was just the fact that taking that first step again was just so hard. Akin to crossing a gulf with one step, that I defaulted to a more comfortable state of mind. Looking forward to your next work my friend.
I really needed this video. Having faith that the spark for creation will come back if I just wait and write, is something that I've been trying to convince myself for a while. I'd like to submit something for feedback, but 99.9% of what I write is in italian, so I'll send one of the few poems I wrote in english just for the thrill of it. One question tho: When/Where are you gonna stream your feedback?
So, I'll be streaming here on TH-cam. As for when? I'm still figuring that out. I'm not technologically savvy, so I'm still learning how to stream, haha. But I'm hoping to get it all ready soon. I'll put out a community post to let everyone know. And if your work doesn't make it on the first stream, don't worry, I'm just taking requests as they come.
I think for me, I used to worry if I was a good enough writer. I looked up to these legends, people who I felt saw reality in an entirely different light. The way they could use words to paint a picture so vividly was something I don't think I could ever do. It used to make me upset. But then I kind of realized, I am not as good a writer as them, and that is entirely ok. I write what I write, to the extent I can write it. But how impressive they are to me are not how they are to another. Two people can read the same book and find that their opinions on it were exact opposites. I hope that to someone else my writing, writing I see as barely serviceable, might be something that they look at as I look at others. I doubt it, but does it matter? I'll keep writing because I love it.
George Lucas , Joseph Staten, and Martin O Donnell werent even confident in their own work and didnt know it was successful until star wars and Halo came out. You just surprise yourself.
I find it weird that so many videos about writing mention that there's so so very many groups out there online for collaboration and feedback, and yet- The very very few I've come across had absolutely no interest in helping out anyone that wasn't already part of their group. But maybe this video gets a little closer to where those groups are - academia. So I guess that's it. I'm not fabulously wealthy, so being able to afford college was and is way beyond anything my budget could ever handle, so that's why I can't find anyone to collaborate with, anyone willing to give me feedback, or anyone willing to even read anything I've written. There's an occasional few that will go to what I've uploaded and sometimes give it 'kudos', yet somehow they don't even know what I wrote about - they went to the page, clicked the button, and didn't actually bother to read anything. It'd be nice if there were options OUTSIDE of academia as well, options that included anyone who writes and not just tiny niche groups that hung out together in college and grew up watching the same shows and movies and listening to the same music. How can I trust anyone who claims I'm a good writer or a bad writer if they can't even be asked to read a single word? FYI, I'm in my late 40s, so that's almost 4 decades of looking for feedback. 'Just keep writing and they'll find you' does not work and never has. For now, my work getting stolen by others is just going to have to satisfy me for feedback - at least whatever person or AI that stole it must have 'liked it' enough to steal it, so there's that, I suppose, so I guess it's good enough for that.
i'm sure in that pic of the neils, the third Neal (Stephenson) has never struggled with impostors syndrom, because he is either just too badass or simply having too much fun writing a thousand pages books. i have no sources though.
I struggled a lot with impostor syndrome in the past and not necessarily when it comes to writing (the term is pretty popular in computer programming circles as well). I still do suffer from impostor syndrome, but to a much lesser degree. There are a few things that helped me change my thinking, but the one that affected me the most was realizing that I've sifted through tons of garbage during my lifetime: garbage stories, garbage characters, garbage writing. And yet the people who produced this garbage somehow had enough dedication and willpower to sit down, write it and then publish it. Should I really place these kind of limitations on myself when the guy who wrote the worst thing I've ever seen in my life didn't? Am I really supposed to be worse than this guy? I don't think so.
Impostor syndrome, social anxiety, and perfectionism: the perfect self-reinforcing mechanism of creator destruction. Side effects include depression and self-isolation, believed in arrogance to be for the good of society.
Thanks, i was rejected by nearly all publishers for almost 14 years now because my work was not good. Wife got costudy of the kids and im close to selling my car, im certain that i will be homeless in a year if i wont try doing anything today.
As per the announcements at the end of this video, here are some important links:
Submit your work to me: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdTNSXO3rHpLpahGT5t4SdDQDLHimS9fqPE6CD3LChAsULGPw/viewform?usp=sf_link
P.O. Box 901989 Sandy, UT 84090
VODs channel: th-cam.com/channels/O0YeEVZLQSerJnqtAdkq7g.html
Patreon: patreon.com/RoughestDrafts?Link&
Instagram: instagram.com/roughestdrafts99/
Twitter: twitter.com/RoughestDrafts
Thanks everyone!
I think you looking over peoples work is a competitor for the most valuable thing this channel could acheive.
When dabblers to professional writers struggle to receive impactful feedback...
feedback as tho the writting I spent weeks berating myself over was a casual showing of a photo of my pet. :)
I think its a wonderful bit and I hope that your second channel receives more attention.
"When anything can happen from inspiration, you could be the one to provide that inspiration to one, who would then go on to inspire others, who would then be inspired, and dominos will fall from the empire state building in crash of inspiration.
With the Roughest Draft starring as King Draft shouting atop the building. An inspiration to all." - Somebody probably
:O can we still submit?
What helps me feel a little better about my own music is remembering that even my favorite artists have made bad albums and even my favorite albums have at least one song I could do without, and that song is probably someone else's favorite
Brilliant . . . the Neil on Neil anecdote got me in the chest
I was trying for a good 4-5 minutes to find the right words to express my feelings for this video, but I'll leave it at this:
thank you
I wrote the first thing I have in about a month while watching this video. and of course its shite, but hey :)
well... no I dont feel any better about it, but hey :) at least I did something.
Ive found that reading my work on a different format, usually as an ebook or kindle, helps me see it as something to judge more objectively and not pay attention to the fact that it’s my own work. If i were to read someone else’s published book on a word doc it’s like convincing the brain that it needs improving, so reading stuff in ways where usually published works are presented should help you read it more like an audience member and have an eye for observing it more fairly
I've been in a weird vortex for a while. In 2018/19 I started and finished a 30-page short story. Then, when the pandemic hit, I thought "hey, maybe I could use that time to turn it into a full novel". Well, it's 2024, and I'm constantly redrafting that thing, changing minor aspects constantly hoping to "fix" whatever new "mistake" I realize I made. It's been a frustrating and also enlightening insight into myself and I hope, truly, I can call it finished soon, even if I have to leave it full of "problems". There are so many other things I want to write too.
I love creating and sharing what I create. I wrote my first poem as soon as I could write and when I'm not writing I craft. In honoring the talent I am honoring the Guiding Force that blessed me. I'm not sure where I heard the saying "Every cloud is perfect, and changing" but it helped me greatly in realizing that perfection exists in everything being just as it is at any one moment and yet is always in transition. I struggle more with people comparing their view of their own imagined inadequacies to my desire to share what I create. In the words of a dear friend, "I am amazed by you and resentful of you at the same time." I have been praised but also accused of showing off. That to me is the greater obstacle to overcome.
i found your channel through your rupi kaur video and after watching a bunch of your stuff i must say it is so very good! this one goes hard too stay slaying
also-in my country's (turkey) regular curriculum we don't really do any poem analysis. we look at the poetic...uhhh...elements? like contrast allusion alliteration and the like in poems but we never really sit down w/ a poem and dissect it. and even tho it's kind of silly, your are songs poems video made me go "huh. thats neat i never thought of doing that" and then i immediately pulled up a fall out boy song to dissect. that's really fun actually. before this when i wanted to understand & analyze a poem I just stared at it real intensely and hoped that intensity of stare = how good it make sense in brain. now it's a little less intense staring and a little more thinking lol
@@gunsugoncu Haha, love that! Thanks for sharing this. I agree, poetic/lyrical analysis is tons of fun.
Making your poem the segue into the sponsorship read did make me crack an amused smile. I don't need whatever Aura is but still the add was nice.
“Perfection is the difference between a living deer and a deer mounted on the wall, which one would you rather observe?” Gonna keep that one in the quote book…thank you, truly, for making this video.
This was such a good video that I had to pause, write a little bit, get lunch and then come back to finish watching it.
I'm not really a writer, I'm more of an illustrator and designer. But I would like to write a book and today I've worked on it thanks to you!
Sometimes I worry if I let myself like my work, I’ll won’t be able to make it reach its true potential. I worry too if it’s not as perfect as it can be, I’ll have in some way let the work down. I worry my play deserves a better writer than myself, and because of the nature of plays, they’re never really complete, even if they’re published or produced on stage. They’re ephemeral in a really magnificent yet disappointing kind of way. Even when performed they’re never done, and if performances cease they’re perpetually incomplete. I want the best for my play like one does for their child; I can only hope it lives a long life outside of me and my reach, but I can’t promise it that. I can only do my best to set it up for success, which I feel totally inadequate to achieve.
so excited for how your channel is growing! thanks for this awesome video. it really puts things into perspective and i was especially surprised by that Neil Armstrong story. we all have our strength and weaknesses, but pushing through the hard times and relying on trusted others to help us see ourselves as we truly are and what we can become is so important!
I'm headed into what I hope to be the final draft of my first book (draft 3), I'm panicking a bit. I'm worried about forgetting things, or it not being coherent even this far along. At the same time I'm driven by an absolute fury to get this story out, to have it live and breathe. This was a very good video, and a needed pick-me-up, thank you.
Probably won't be. I've got a book I've been working on for four years and I'm on like draft 8 or 9. Don't know, honestly. 🤣
Thank you. While watching this video, a story came back to me from many years ago, with a new twist that I like.
Thank you, my friend has been immensely struggling with this, and this has helped them immensely. I look forwards to them seeing it.
Thank you for this video, and a special thanks for offering feedback for free, that's really kind.
You are really cool, I am a visual artist and educator but I find your videos so relaxing and centering. Thank you for the work you do. Listening to your work has encouraged me to branch out from just visual art to start writing my thesis. Every time I think "I'm a bad writer" I reflect on how I improved at drawing. So thank you for the guidance.
Thank you for this. Thank you. My close friends have been struggling with this as well. Thank you.
I greatly enjoyed and appreciated this video. It enriches my sense of comaradery as a creative. When I get stuck with impostor syndrome, I remind myself that I'm doing what I do for self-fulfillment, and the important thing is to keep showing up, seeing what happens, and to have fun with it. It's not about producing something so much as seeing what I can learn from what I make. It often has something I needed to say even if I wasn't sure exactly what that was before I made it.
I didn't count as a watch since I read the transcript but I will comment to let you know this was amazing and I appreciated.
thank you so much for this, I really needed it!
i'm so glad i found this channel!!! this video came to me just at the right time, thank you so much for this and for all the good work you do on here. this vid definitely helped me feel less like a failure and gave me motivation to keep going, just when i was about to give up.:) and your voice is very calming
You're definitely not a failure. I can promise you that.
Great video, man. Loved your insights and your empathetic approach to the issue that all of us writers face. Keep up the excellent work, definitely want to see more videos from you.
So glad that you informed me that Neil Gaiman has an Arthur episode. And excellent work on the video!
That was a really good video, and you put out your points very eloquently. I loved literature, and I loved writing, but with all the stresses and issues life handed me with I found that I had little time to actually continue the things that I love. Except, I don't think that was ever true, I think it was just the fact that taking that first step again was just so hard. Akin to crossing a gulf with one step, that I defaulted to a more comfortable state of mind. Looking forward to your next work my friend.
This was much needed. Great video! Also at 10:03, I think that's a loss meme lol
It sure is, haha. Because sometimes as writers, we're at a loss for what to create. B'dum tss. Glad someone noticed it lol.
Enjoyed this video a lot Mr Toughest draft
yet another BANGER vid god you really never miss. magnificent. love your stuff
I really needed this video. Having faith that the spark for creation will come back if I just wait and write, is something that I've been trying to convince myself for a while.
I'd like to submit something for feedback, but 99.9% of what I write is in italian, so I'll send one of the few poems I wrote in english just for the thrill of it. One question tho: When/Where are you gonna stream your feedback?
So, I'll be streaming here on TH-cam. As for when? I'm still figuring that out. I'm not technologically savvy, so I'm still learning how to stream, haha. But I'm hoping to get it all ready soon. I'll put out a community post to let everyone know. And if your work doesn't make it on the first stream, don't worry, I'm just taking requests as they come.
@@RoughestDraftsperfect, thanks a lot!
I really struggle with this for my own writing.
I may only be a fan fiction writer, but it's still an issue for me.
So... Thank you. Really...
A video about fear of crticism would be really nice
I'd like to hear about how a writer gathers an audience. Simply existing doesn't seem like enough.
I needed this ♡
I think for me, I used to worry if I was a good enough writer. I looked up to these legends, people who I felt saw reality in an entirely different light. The way they could use words to paint a picture so vividly was something I don't think I could ever do. It used to make me upset. But then I kind of realized, I am not as good a writer as them, and that is entirely ok. I write what I write, to the extent I can write it. But how impressive they are to me are not how they are to another. Two people can read the same book and find that their opinions on it were exact opposites. I hope that to someone else my writing, writing I see as barely serviceable, might be something that they look at as I look at others.
I doubt it, but does it matter? I'll keep writing because I love it.
George Lucas , Joseph Staten, and Martin O Donnell werent even confident in their own work and didnt know it was successful until star wars and Halo came out. You just surprise yourself.
I find it weird that so many videos about writing mention that there's so so very many groups out there online for collaboration and feedback, and yet-
The very very few I've come across had absolutely no interest in helping out anyone that wasn't already part of their group. But maybe this video gets a little closer to where those groups are - academia. So I guess that's it. I'm not fabulously wealthy, so being able to afford college was and is way beyond anything my budget could ever handle, so that's why I can't find anyone to collaborate with, anyone willing to give me feedback, or anyone willing to even read anything I've written. There's an occasional few that will go to what I've uploaded and sometimes give it 'kudos', yet somehow they don't even know what I wrote about - they went to the page, clicked the button, and didn't actually bother to read anything.
It'd be nice if there were options OUTSIDE of academia as well, options that included anyone who writes and not just tiny niche groups that hung out together in college and grew up watching the same shows and movies and listening to the same music. How can I trust anyone who claims I'm a good writer or a bad writer if they can't even be asked to read a single word?
FYI, I'm in my late 40s, so that's almost 4 decades of looking for feedback. 'Just keep writing and they'll find you' does not work and never has. For now, my work getting stolen by others is just going to have to satisfy me for feedback - at least whatever person or AI that stole it must have 'liked it' enough to steal it, so there's that, I suppose, so I guess it's good enough for that.
i'm sure in that pic of the neils, the third Neal (Stephenson) has never struggled with impostors syndrom, because he is either just too badass or simply having too much fun writing a thousand pages books. i have no sources though.
This is great! Can you do a review of some of the work from ‘Violets bend backwards over the grass’ by Lana del Rey?
I struggled a lot with impostor syndrome in the past and not necessarily when it comes to writing (the term is pretty popular in computer programming circles as well). I still do suffer from impostor syndrome, but to a much lesser degree. There are a few things that helped me change my thinking, but the one that affected me the most was realizing that I've sifted through tons of garbage during my lifetime: garbage stories, garbage characters, garbage writing. And yet the people who produced this garbage somehow had enough dedication and willpower to sit down, write it and then publish it. Should I really place these kind of limitations on myself when the guy who wrote the worst thing I've ever seen in my life didn't? Am I really supposed to be worse than this guy? I don't think so.
Impostor syndrome, social anxiety, and perfectionism: the perfect self-reinforcing mechanism of creator destruction. Side effects include depression and self-isolation, believed in arrogance to be for the good of society.
Thanks, i was rejected by nearly all publishers for almost 14 years now because my work was not good. Wife got costudy of the kids and im close to selling my car, im certain that i will be homeless in a year if i wont try doing anything today.
Neil is a great writer, but what he did to us is cruel, horrible, and soul-wrenching. Any GO fan knows what I’m talking about
10:01 LOSS
Neil :(((
Is it possible to marry a TH-cam channel? Asking for a friend.