The mental gymnastics to play against a shaco is insane, you have to think what he thinks you’re thinking to avoid the boxes where he thinks you’re going. Real 4D chess
You easily beat Shaco by just ignoring his existence the entire game. His power is proportional to the amount you interact with him. Early game just focus on cs and plates, let him do what he wants. Late game let him split push and farm alone while the rest of his team loses drakes and 4v5s the rest of the map. His boxes only work if you play on his terms.
7:08 Genuinely should never do it. Does it. Dies. I guess that is why Shaco works because even if you know its a bad idea some kind of dark corner of your mind, a Demon takes over and you cannot stop yourself. Its like Shaco has a hidden passive ability which randomly activates at times, a Charm which lets you retain some control over your character as long as every click is a bit closer to Shaco :D.
minish thought he was going to box under turret because he's entirely bait based, so pink ward put them on the proxy route. they just happened to think the same thing at once.
@@onlinepanic2036 From what i can tell there were boxes covering both the proxy route and the approach to the tower. He had enough time to grab the wave at the path under gromp but he decided to take the upper path for some reason. Probably wanted to dive him but half talked himself out of it. Then He walks into 1 box which should raise alarms but he continues to push the issue anyway, walks into 2 more and dies. I do not see how gambling here is a good idea like ever. Shaco is the one needing some miracle early game in order to have an impact on the game, Singed does not. Been watching lots of Minishcap videos lately and he is an excellent player and understands the global conditions even better. I wish he manages to silence the demons that make him do this kind of ummmm.. plays. . When he dies his team is 4 and 9 so this game is looking really good regardless of his 2 deaths. if it was equal it might have been a different story. Still though he did not make his teams life easier when Ekko picked up the kill on him earlier either. Irony is he keeps saying how he should not interact with shaco yet that is how the kill happened by him dancing around with Shaco trying to get the kill, he does not need, and feeding the enemy jungler which then has easier time wrecking havoc on his teammates. Improvements need to be made on phycological department. I really wish he does so we can see him do even better than he already is. Lets not pretend this was not a huge mistake. It was. He knows it. All he has to do is farm he says it himself. But The Demon voices prevailed. He does make up for it in other areas for sure though. This is not a global criticism of his plays. Its just an observation how he got taunted into making a bad call even though he tried really hard not to. Cheers!
@@gremlin998 why would he assume there was only 1 box there though. I got used to him being very proficient in the matchups he plays. This one seams like in theory he knew exactly what he needed to do but was a bit overconfident in the execution. However i do believe he did not want to dive but still a bad decision of not entering the proxy bellow the gromp and then not giving up after seeing the first box brought him into this position.
@@TheNeomare by 7:04 you can see minions are starting to walk past tier 2 towers (by looking at minish's own minions on the map) so there is not enough time to catch the wave from below gromp. I dont think you can fault him for not suspecting the box setup as shaco isnt a very popular toplaner and it was the first time in the game pink ward had tried to prevent a proxy. instead this only speaks to pink ward's mastery by deliberately placing a box in front of minish to manipulate him to path into other boxes.
34:00 shaco clone will throw his knife if he presses e. It also has smoke too when it blinks. If he is close to the real one it even mimics placing boxes. Kinda tricky to spot sometimes Edit: all this was added in 14.3 makes the champ feel better
39:50 Pyke's end of game damage charts don't take into account execute damage from his ult, so any kills he gets with ult are effectively 0 damage regardless of their health. I always add like 600dmg per kill to pyke's damage number to get a better estimate.
@@coryp6868 check for urself instead of flaming, both have insane macro and wave management and game knowledge, minish has better tactics predecting and outsmarting shaco plays +versatility as an ace up his sleeve
Yeah so the Shaco clone imitates its W and E when the user uses it, so it's harder to distinguish between the two... I think they did that update when they did that Vanguard thing. The Shaco clone also copies buff stacks so when you hover over it, it seems like the real Shaco.
32:18 I know EXACTLY what you mean. I'm SO glad to hear you say this out loud bro. Armor is little more than a bait stat in 2024. Wasted gold. 99% of the time it's better to buy ap/ad than armor on 99% of champs. I've been saying this for so long and people look at me like im crazy but just play a game with 400 armor (about 70% damage reduction) and still die in 2.0 seconds to almost any adc with armor pen because they right clicked you and stood still. Armor is DEAD in 2024. It gives zero value; it's false advertised value that people keep buying out of habit. You won't survive being right clicked by any random adc even with 400 armor. I hate it. Resist is fine, resist is strong. Few champs have magic pen in their kits to stack with void...but 75% of champs have either %HP or armor pen IN THEIR KITS to stack on top of LDR. It's not even a funny joke, it's sad. Armor is wasted gold. The ONLY time buying armor will work is if your enemy is playing a C tier adc without LDR, and in all honesty that never happens when your opponent has a functional brain.
@minish a few months ago there was a patch that made shaco’s clone fake the animation of his e and w (duplicate shiv but no damage) if they are close enough to each other. Must be like melee range of each other.
day 85 of thanking you for the best content. fucking perfect time bro thanks just came from the gym, made some good ass food and then this. cant thank you enough rlly.
im not understanding why or how you or anyone claim to be #1 at a champ. what app/metric are you using to gauge your position over anyone who plays league?
Singed is only a lil bit annoying, I would rather play vs a singed than someone who just stat checks me and 1 shots me, he actually takes a brain to pilot
I mean, Singed absolutely stat checks you as the primary means of winning against anybody. He gets to the point where he runs through you and you either melt over 3 seconds or he's too tanky/fast to fight back against. And he ignores you and proxies if he hasn't reached that state yet.
Ekko is such a bullshit champion. 23:45 and he's in an insanely bad spot, completely dead if he was any other champion, and he just hops over a wall and then ults all the way from chickens to bot side river. Such a loser champion. Its made 200% worse by his voice lines. "Cant _touch_ me!" like he's some kind of badass, when in reality Ekko's entire playstyle revolves around being a total coward. "Redo!" WE DIDN'T HAVE REDOS IN SEASON 3, DAMN IT! YOU COMMITTED AND HOPED YOU MADE THE RIGHT CALL!
self proclaimed "free thinkers" when they see a 1hp shaco
Proclaim
@@EmirK-ws5hhproclaimed
@@EmirK-ws5hh oops thx for pointing that out
The mental gymnastics to play against a shaco is insane, you have to think what he thinks you’re thinking to avoid the boxes where he thinks you’re going. Real 4D chess
You easily beat Shaco by just ignoring his existence the entire game. His power is proportional to the amount you interact with him. Early game just focus on cs and plates, let him do what he wants. Late game let him split push and farm alone while the rest of his team loses drakes and 4v5s the rest of the map. His boxes only work if you play on his terms.
@@premiumfruits3528 ye just let shaco push the whole top down bro
@@scoper7897waveclear?
7:08 I saw that coming😂 pink ward is too smart
that was peak shaco box play
What are we doing tonight?
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to proxy over and over.
7:08 Genuinely should never do it. Does it. Dies.
I guess that is why Shaco works because even if you know its a bad idea some kind of dark corner of your mind, a Demon takes over and you cannot stop yourself. Its like Shaco has a hidden passive ability which randomly activates at times, a Charm which lets you retain some control over your character as long as every click is a bit closer to Shaco :D.
minish thought he was going to box under turret because he's entirely bait based, so pink ward put them on the proxy route. they just happened to think the same thing at once.
@@onlinepanic2036 From what i can tell there were boxes covering both the proxy route and the approach to the tower. He had enough time to grab the wave at the path under gromp but he decided to take the upper path for some reason. Probably wanted to dive him but half talked himself out of it. Then He walks into 1 box which should raise alarms but he continues to push the issue anyway, walks into 2 more and dies.
I do not see how gambling here is a good idea like ever. Shaco is the one needing some miracle early game in order to have an impact on the game, Singed does not.
Been watching lots of Minishcap videos lately and he is an excellent player and understands the global conditions even better. I wish he manages to silence the demons that make him do this kind of ummmm.. plays. .
When he dies his team is 4 and 9 so this game is looking really good regardless of his 2 deaths. if it was equal it might have been a different story.
Still though he did not make his teams life easier when Ekko picked up the kill on him earlier either. Irony is he keeps saying how he should not interact with shaco yet that is how the kill happened by him dancing around with Shaco trying to get the kill, he does not need, and feeding the enemy jungler which then has easier time wrecking havoc on his teammates.
Improvements need to be made on phycological department. I really wish he does so we can see him do even better than he already is.
Lets not pretend this was not a huge mistake. It was. He knows it. All he has to do is farm he says it himself. But The Demon voices prevailed.
He does make up for it in other areas for sure though. This is not a global criticism of his plays. Its just an observation how he got taunted into making a bad call even though he tried really hard not to.
Cheers!
@@TheNeomare minish wasnt trying to dive, he was only trying to avoid the box he had just seen pink ward place.
@@gremlin998 why would he assume there was only 1 box there though. I got used to him being very proficient in the matchups he plays. This one seams like in theory he knew exactly what he needed to do but was a bit overconfident in the execution.
However i do believe he did not want to dive but still a bad decision of not entering the proxy bellow the gromp and then not giving up after seeing the first box brought him into this position.
@@TheNeomare by 7:04 you can see minions are starting to walk past tier 2 towers (by looking at minish's own minions on the map) so there is not enough time to catch the wave from below gromp. I dont think you can fault him for not suspecting the box setup as shaco isnt a very popular toplaner and it was the first time in the game pink ward had tried to prevent a proxy. instead this only speaks to pink ward's mastery by deliberately placing a box in front of minish to manipulate him to path into other boxes.
34:00 shaco clone will throw his knife if he presses e. It also has smoke too when it blinks. If he is close to the real one it even mimics placing boxes. Kinda tricky to spot sometimes
Edit: all this was added in 14.3 makes the champ feel better
also if shaco put cigarettes on his lips the clone will ignite it
39:50
Pyke's end of game damage charts don't take into account execute damage from his ult, so any kills he gets with ult are effectively 0 damage regardless of their health.
I always add like 600dmg per kill to pyke's damage number to get a better estimate.
minishcap when his whole team goes afk:
"it is what it is"
Yoda's impression of Minishcap1: "what it is, is it"
Ah yes, the battle between my two favourite league creators playing mad jinxy characters
A showdown between the two GOATS I never knew I needed. I am team Minish, I hope for Singed victory!
They encountered each other 2 or 3 times before, minish beat him every single time
@@MN-vw3rp that's cap 😂 but he normally has the best macro.
no need to hope, he doesn't upload losses lmao
@@aviebadgal he does upload loses of a gg, i searched for the matchup in pinks channel before and didn't find any match there so its: 3/4-0
@@coryp6868 check for urself instead of flaming, both have insane macro and wave management and game knowledge, minish has better tactics predecting and outsmarting shaco plays +versatility as an ace up his sleeve
My gosh i was so hyped seeing this matchup. Was with you all the way and it's cool to see how every play PW was laughed at 😂
Best Singed NA - amazing game knowledge, great mechanics, bronze vision scores.
That Echo taking that cannon felt personal.
viego and yes :D
Incredibly unique toplane match up and very insightful commentary. Thanks for the entertainment Minish!
2 Shaco, or not 2 Shaco!!!
2 legends fcing echother, good tontent man
That's crazy, you two are the only league players I watch. Love both Singed and Shaco
this is a match i've been very interested in seeing. thanks for posting
its so awesome to watch my favourite 2 streamers with against each other ;p
It's a cool matchup too because these streamers have diametrically opposite streaming styles, though they both do cackle manically every so often.
Loses hard, plays well near the end while blaming team, ends saying top mvp xD
Minish was super important when he was finally able to join up for team fights. As compared to the Shaco who was useless when teamfights broke out.
Damn im so addicted to your singed im now an OTP singed as well🤣🤣🤣
Yeah so the Shaco clone imitates its W and E when the user uses it, so it's harder to distinguish between the two... I think they did that update when they did that Vanguard thing. The Shaco clone also copies buff stacks so when you hover over it, it seems like the real Shaco.
Don't fall for Shaco's tricks - he told himself... 1000 times.. 4:05 falls for Shaco's tricks
Hell yeah minishcap, my inspiration, my king. Please oh lord of singed, please bless us with a tank singed video ❤
An unstoppable force meets an unmovable object
man, pinkward gets shite teammates most of his games its a sad, he is really fucking good.
12:35 Nope 😂
Kled's name is the best "Iron to Chall". Feeding like a maniac.
32:18 I know EXACTLY what you mean. I'm SO glad to hear you say this out loud bro.
Armor is little more than a bait stat in 2024. Wasted gold.
99% of the time it's better to buy ap/ad than armor on 99% of champs. I've been saying this for so long and people look at me like im crazy but just play a game with 400 armor (about 70% damage reduction) and still die in 2.0 seconds to almost any adc with armor pen because they right clicked you and stood still. Armor is DEAD in 2024. It gives zero value; it's false advertised value that people keep buying out of habit.
You won't survive being right clicked by any random adc even with 400 armor. I hate it. Resist is fine, resist is strong. Few champs have magic pen in their kits to stack with void...but 75% of champs have either %HP or armor pen IN THEIR KITS to stack on top of LDR. It's not even a funny joke, it's sad. Armor is wasted gold. The ONLY time buying armor will work is if your enemy is playing a C tier adc without LDR, and in all honesty that never happens when your opponent has a functional brain.
This is objectively incorrect.
A real clash of the titans this match. Holy shit that Kled ran it down. Well played.
best part about a minishcap1 and Pink ward video, is not having to watch pink ward lol
@minish a few months ago there was a patch that made shaco’s clone fake the animation of his e and w (duplicate shiv but no damage) if they are close enough to each other. Must be like melee range of each other.
i think frozen heart and randuins omen are the more effective armor items for survivability because of their passives
lmao "you ready to watch two top level top laners not interact with each other for 30 mins"
Clones can knife you if the real body knifes you and the clone is also in knife range
Yea always good to see Pinkward get the BUSINESS!
Thanks for putting Shaco in his place 😂 dead and defeated
Battle of the clowns
LETS GOOO MINISHCAP!! keep doing what you love~!
shaco vs singed top is the most cursed matched up i think ive ever seen.
Omg!!! My two mains and the guys who inspired me to take up the two goofiest champs in the game.
2 of my favorite gamers on lol
deja vu, I'm sure I've seen you matching vs him before
What's that sound Kled made at 23:07? Timewarp Tonic?
That's just Youmuu's Ghostblade isnt it?
Bro why is every sentence ended with an upper inflection, it's absolutely triggering to listen to
Dude, can you tell me your overlay setup? I'm trying to do a practical setup similar to this
As a kled player I can say we are a little crazy... u know the mushrooms
They nerfed singed's items in wild rift...
Never has grass been so untouched.
clone pretends to do whatever shaco does when hes invis i think
Too much power in one lane. At least he knows the deal from minute 1
GG! 👌
I bet you were so psyched to get pink ward for the Tuber!!
day 85 of thanking you for the best content.
fucking perfect time bro thanks just came from the gym, made some good ass food and then this. cant thank you enough rlly.
this game was awesome to watch live!
Good sweet baby yoda that game was intense
True battle of the heavyweights
After hearing "it is what it is" 10x in 3 minutes I had to politely mute the sound 🙉
2 amazing players
'it is what it is' dude you're so bad 😂
bro had feedaboi on his team
Lol man you were carried so hard
pink ward gets scarier when he has low health.
What is this BS with cooldown cheats shown on the mini map?
I was thinking the same thing. It's literally cheating.
he destroyed you
cant play shacos game we all say in unison
at 4 min there should be a ward in river....
Just realised this was uploaded 1hr ago 💀💀💀💀
7:05 ain’t no way
im not understanding why or how you or anyone claim to be #1 at a champ. what app/metric are you using to gauge your position over anyone who plays league?
Am I the only one who watched this without a sound?
how do you know you're the number 1 Singed? 😂 when you trying to play just like everyone else.
why dont you use oracle to avoid his pinks?
Your only the second streamer I have seen, know not to engage with Shaco top. Other one was Tyler1. Nice patience, well done.
If you want vision you have trinket
it is what it is
Lets go BOYS!!!~
basta un player umano per incularlo, nei video tutti lo vanno a cercare quando basta ignorarlo e rimanere in lane
@Minishcap plz use the Gassy custom skin PLEASE we need a HERO!!!
Holy Nike's !
Singed is only a lil bit annoying, I would rather play vs a singed than someone who just stat checks me and 1 shots me, he actually takes a brain to pilot
I mean, Singed absolutely stat checks you as the primary means of winning against anybody. He gets to the point where he runs through you and you either melt over 3 seconds or he's too tanky/fast to fight back against. And he ignores you and proxies if he hasn't reached that state yet.
Singed ult is stat checking
GG❤
do not chase champions top lane noddle fight
edit: lucky baus is not in NA
Fast AF BOiiii
fantastic, this game was bery gud tuch my felins im cring T-T
Feedaboi is there being sloppy ❤
gypsi singed so OP
Yeah clone knife you after one patch ago
mitiswhatitishcap
I can play like this....... Like a noob
The rank 1 Singed? Who
Pyke carried this do hard
15 min in and you dont have an item yet?
even with that was actually a good game . nice one bro
He bought mercs cuz he had to vs that comp
Ekko is such a bullshit champion. 23:45 and he's in an insanely bad spot, completely dead if he was any other champion, and he just hops over a wall and then ults all the way from chickens to bot side river. Such a loser champion. Its made 200% worse by his voice lines. "Cant _touch_ me!" like he's some kind of badass, when in reality Ekko's entire playstyle revolves around being a total coward. "Redo!" WE DIDN'T HAVE REDOS IN SEASON 3, DAMN IT! YOU COMMITTED AND HOPED YOU MADE THE RIGHT CALL!
You sound like a valorant player.
#1 my ass lol
Pink Ward got OWNED
feedaboi mid as well
Pinkward