Hamazura Shiage, the Underrated Underdog | Toaru Index
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- In this video I analyse the third of the three heroes, Super Hamazura Shiage. Why is he underrated? What is Shiage Luck? All will be revealed....
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"A Certain Magical Index", "A Certain Magical Index New Testament" & "A Certain Magical Index Genesis Testament" are written by Kamachi Kazuma, and illustrated by Kiyotaka Haimura, and published by Dengeki Bunko (ASCII Media Works) under Kadokawa Corporation (Kadoawa Future Publishing). The manga of "A Certain Scientific Railgun" & "A Certain Scientific Accelerator" are written by Kamachi Kazuma, illustrated by Motoi Fuyukawa & Arata Yamaji respectively, and both published by ASCII Media Works. "A Certain Scientific Railgun: Astral Buddy" & "A Certain Scientific Mental Out" are both written by Kamachi Kazuma and illustrated by Yasuhito Nogi, published by ASCII Media Works & Comic Newtype respectively. "A Certain Scientific Dark Matter" is written by Kamachi Kazuma, illustrated by Kisaragi Nankyoku and published by ASCII Media Works. The anime adaptations of "A Certain Magical Index", "A Certain Scientific Railgun" & "A Certain Scientific Accelerator" were produced by JC Staff, directed by Hiroshi Nishikiori, Tatsuyuki Nagai and Nobuharu Kamanaka respectively.
Hope this video gives you all the Shiage Luck you need to survive Friday 13th :^)
@5:58 ''He's a massive pervert''
Really? How?
Hamazura, a guy so OP that even Kamachi actually gave him a gf.
Truly stronger than the Secret Chiefs and Magic Gods. However still no match for Biagio.
@@AeonofHorus Who or What are the Secret Chiefs Actually?
@@swarup8274 many people think the secret chiefs are one of if not the strongest beings in toaru since aiwass is a secret chief correct me if i am wrong tho.
Great analysis on Hamazura, he's quite the underdog and one of the best at that. His relationship with Takitsubo is great even if she is a Level 4, it doesn't matter to him, he values her life and he wants keep her safe. He fully understands Takitsubo, they're kinda in the same situation by being looked down on by Mugino, she only sees them as a tool. She abused Takitsubo's ability to give herself an advantage in combat, but Hamazura doesn't wanted to see Takitsubo's suffering anymore so he had to confront Mugino.
Hamazura defeated her many times to show everyone that being a higher Level doesn't mean you always win and that a mere Level 0 like him or Touma can do anything by risking their own lives to save someone or the world.
Hamazura is such a good and very underrated character in the Toaru series!
Thanks and well said!
Hamazura isn't just a main protagonist but a true gender equality
also Touma as confirmed in endymion index-tan
I don't believe in Shiage Luck, but I do believe in Level 0 luck which Hamazura happens to have. This applies not just to Hamazura, mind you, but also Touma Kamijou, Ruiko Saten, and others. The details behind how the luck works and whether it is good, bad, or neutral varies from one to another, but I do believe that luck is a strong recurring theme in each of these characters just as it is in the franchise as a whole. In fact, I would argue that luck itself exists as a power system separate from either magic or science in the series and applies to certain characters to be explored just as much albeit with a bit more subtlety.
Actually, Hamazura is my favorite character. He's the most human of the three protagonists. He's just a dude trying his best. He was also inspired by Rambo and Die Hard. LOL quote by Kazuma Kamachi even
I personally want to think that Hamazura spared Mugino in ww3, because they were in awfully similar situations. Where the higher ups of Academy City wanted them to kill each other. It ties back to his character arc in Battle Royal where he not only values his life as a level 0 again after being saved by Takitsubo, but also trying to save a level 4 esper himself, saving ppl in need like how Komaba and Touma did.
Mugino in ww3 there was as much of a tool from ppl who make the rules as Takitsubo and Hamazura were back in Battle Royal. So he protected the person in need here while still multiple times thinking of shooting her, Hamazura chose to value the life that Noone else found value in more than being a tool, an ITEM. It's quite the irony that he started to protect a level 5. It gets to show that the level isn't something that values your life, but you as a person as a whole. This especially hit me when they flashed back to Mugino in OT19, asking Hamazura how she became a monster like this.
Not some level system that should make one look down on each other, but the ppl who shit on human rights and are at fault of making these ppl become like this.
(what I'm trying to say is that the anime should have put more emphasis on the elevator and oven scene of OT15)
Amazing video. Keep up the great Toaru content!
Great points. You summed up why he spared Mugino better than I did!
Thanks for the support
@@AeonofHorus as a fellow Shiagetard, this was an obligation.
I still think it was a bad decision fromt JC Stuff that they cut the scene where he had to dump the corpse of a girl in the incinerator during the start of the Battle Royal arc. That was imho the most important Hamazura scene during OT. To sum it up I'm also a great Shiage fan and enjoy all the content with him in the novels. Kamachi manages imho to stabelize all three protagonists at around the same level. And their interactions are interesting whenever they cross paths.
"Wait, I have a question about who is the true main protagonist!"
The Toaru Fanbase: No, we don't do that here.
Except when you do.
No, it's Tōma
As a kid I always despised main characters in TV shows. Similar to how Garou does in OPM except I sympathized with the side characters instead of the villains. I hated the relevancey gap between them and the main characters rarely felt relatable. There was always some silent rule that nobody could be stronger than the main characters outside of villains and mentor characters. Not only was this was one of the few shows that I loved the main character, but Shiage even as a concept would have made me go nuts.
After watching this video I'm starting to like hamazura a little bit more, great analysis video.
Thank you!
The Madlad himself Hamazura knows the right way of using luck and skill with tactic and machines and guns and explosives and leading espers to hurt themselves with their own abilities and cars and vans and exoskeleton suits and girls and Takisubo and his boss Touma showed him da wae.
DA WAE
Hamazura haters gonna tremble when I pull this up on them, also Shiage-Luck is merely a myth or an illusion after all.
I doubt it chris.
Really loved the character, thanks for the vid on him!
No problem :^)
Most anime/movie watcher didnt understand how real world fights works, so they think cool action meaning great character skill while smart real world tactics is plot armor.
In reality, its means opposite. Cool loking action heroes has more plot armor than Hamazura .
Hamazura is more beliveable character due to how his fights. Sadly, not many people understand this.
Exactly! I very much agree
Since the cool heroes or villains rely on something completely made up after all, Hamazura overcome these things and even if he looks a bit *lucky* at times, it’s not at all irritating or annoying but overshadowed heavily by his realistic actions.
No, they thinks fans having to costantly say maybe or it's possible to justify an event is plot armor.
He gets lucky because she is an arrogant bitch. This isn't to take away from him being a good character but lets not make excuses for his lacking ability. Mugino likely dealt with people using "real world tactics" before as she is well acclimated to Academy City's dark side, so, Hamazura really shouldn't be all that different. He really does get lucky. If she were to ever come out of herself she could deal with him easily. The most compelling part of Hamazura is his personality and interpersonal relationships, not his combat ability.
Today I wrote a post about Hamazura and Takitsubo for my story/trivia ToAru cycle (basically, I am writing about ToAru for about a year now, and introducing it to anime fans in my country) and this video was quite helpful in integrating all the facts.
Others may laugh at your mispronounciation of Takitsubo, but I imagined Hamazura and Takitsubo having a child and playing with him/her, saying "Takitsu-boo" instead of "peakaboo". And honestly it's adorable, you made my day.
Keep the videos coming much love
I'll try my best :^)
0:18 Ham Man gang xD but its true that Hamazura is a underrated protagonist despite the fact that he is actually a pretty good character
Love the video. Hamazura was a well written character that got butchered in the anime. However I was wondering if you can do a character analysis on my boy Tsuchimikado motoharu or Necessarius. I would like to hear you thoughts on either on :^)
Eh, neither version character are that intretsting .
He's basically Carl Johnson but without "HESOYAM"
Wait.... A proper honest to god toaru channel, subscribed
Welcome to the channel!
HamaGod the Emperor!
This is the Toaru version of King from One Punch Man or since this one excisted for longer King is One Punch Man's version of Hamazura
Hamaaaazuuuraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! HAMAAZUUURAAAA!
yeah i simp hamazura how did you notice?
Just a stupid question from me, I apologize before hand
Why did he call "filthy mikoto fan"???
So are you gonna do the Power list on Index as it was the second most voted in the poll??
Yes 👀
@@AeonofHorus les gooo
2:23 "largest dark side organization"
**BLOCK WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION WITH THEIR 5000 MERCANIERIES**
They were just hired by block though, not actual members of block iirc :^)
@@AeonofHorus And also utterly useless against Etzali :^)
Remember he doged Melt Downer Serval times🙃
he became one of my favorite character in the series somewhere in the index 3 anime O_O
Did you forget about a certain dragon bike and stuff from the other novels
I would like to know can epsers use their abilities endlessly accelerator and rail gun in the anime and manga kinda use it like they have infinite ammo
There is a time limit to Accelerator via the choker and if you remember in Railgun S Mikoto was struggling to use her abilities vs ITEM due to fatigue
Personally, I think Shiage works better as an audiemce surrogate than Saten. That's just me, though.
Can you explain why touma can’t remember misaki
I already did in my Shokuhou video
Considering the themes and worldview of A Certain Magical Index, Shiage's 'plot amour' really depends on how much you think the Toaru franchise runs on Right Makes Might (even if you are the person that thinks that all of the outcomes of Shiage's fights are well justified).
oh.
Whats the name of the background music at 13:04
A Certain Magical Index OST 1: Unmei no Hajimari (Destiny Begins)
Thank u sir keep it up & nice vid
@@jaystar3145 You're welcome and thanks!
Nice charecter analysys and nice joke about all the Railgun stans lol
and most important hamazura is practically a power ranger.
Touma is a cause why hamazura is lucky
I like his progress on OT but not much on NT
Do you mean he didn't have much, or you didn't find it that intretsting.
@@fightingmedialounge519 the latter, NT is the place where all monster gathered. I feel like there's no place for him to be relevant. However I like his moment in nt 7
@@pidpera2570 I guess that's an answer.
ChadMazura lezzgo!!!
Comparing doesn't action movie protagonist and hamazura doesn't really make much sense cosidering people could still hate both for them for the same reason, or hate hamazura for the plethora of traits he has that those characters don't or vice versa.
Again your missing the point. I'm not saying its impossible to criticise both, I'm saying Shiage gets way more criticism for plot armour than modern action heroes (in proportion with how many people cosume the media, cos obviously action flicks are more popular than this series). I never see people criticise action hero plot armour the same way as Hamazura gets it. And its fine to compare them as thats what Hamazura was based on if you actually read Kamachi's interviews. For someone who criticised me for making 'big assumptions' you sure like to make big assumptions yourself when it comes to interpretting my points.
@@AeonofHorus no, your just not paying attention. I explicitly said that you can find people who have similar criticisms concerning hamazura and action movie heros, and even if I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you did proper reaserch into the subject, none of the matters. His character and there characters are diffrent enough in execution that someone could overlook or not notice the flaws for the latter like they do the former.
So while you have time to look up interviews, you should look up the definition of the words assumption and interpretation since I never once commented about why you made that comparison, nordid I ever reference what you said in a way you way that was different from the video. What I did was point out that the comparison was a bad idea since it was based on dubious data when you take into account how many videos exist making fun of the absurdity of action heros, ignored the fact that people won't have the same reactions to different characters for various reasons, and ultimately just confuses fact for feeling when it comes to yourself and the detractors you brought up. An action I have low tolerance for. Side note: using the interview as a gotta moment is again an assumption based on little information.
@@fightingmedialounge519 @Kye Dysarthria Lol re-read your first comment, you never said you can find people like that, you're tripping.
Bruh this is an analysis video, of course I'm going to use my own interpretations of the character. It is impossible not to make assumptions on this topic as it is my own opinion and from my own experiences. Oh? You're assuming yourself there are a lot of videos mocking action hero stereotypes. Show me the data, you're making assumptions. Bruh I don't believe people can't have a different reaction stop making assumptions. I didn't ignore it, its really just not worth mentioning in a video since it is logically obvious, but I suppose that would be another assumption to suggest that wouldn't it? There is no way to prove facts when it comes to film criticism, or character criticism. Sure you can say the character did xyz in a scene, but that is nothing more than rehashing the scene. That's where subjective interpretation and analysis comes in to actually give my own take on what occurred as that gives it meaning. Art is subjective in the eyes of the audience. The fact that I even need to explain this to you baffles me. I will waste no more time on you as you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If you want facts and figures just read the series again.
HAMAZURA this LIVE? O this Dead? In Gt3
Wait for gt4
@@tobiascheung8853 ok bruh
no way he died in GT, yousure?
@@pcbangbros8350 thank's
i like to think of Hamazura as the good side of Darwinism.
I think author should stop add hamazura for GT volume there are no place for normal human like hamazura
Hamazura Shiage is way better written than Silver The Hedgehog (who despite having high level telekinesis got his character shafted in the worst game ever in Sonic franchise).
"We clearly feel sympathy for him" making a lot of assumptions here.
It's fine if you didn't. I'm just collectivising myself and most the fans who read the series.
Again, it's a big assumption to say what most people were feeling at the time.
@@fightingmedialounge519 No it's not.
@@AeonofHorus yes it is. You can what we were suppose to feel give what we learned, but how each individual felt was something neither of us know, or can even make a close guess at.
So much better and more interesting lead character than Touma
Well that's just your opinion.
@@stevieveringus3857 did I ever say it wasn't, and that it was more than that?
@@coreymartin6486 Did I ever accuse you of that? This is just a result of not writing "imo" after a very declarative sentence.
@@stevieveringus3857 oh good grief dude......I hope you're just trolling. Otherwise I would feel bad for the people who know you personally.
@@coreymartin6486 I hope you are mentally in pristine condition if this is your average response in a TH-cam comment section
Hahaha ur pronunciations r so bad 😂😂
How? The only name I mispronounced was Takitsubo
@@AeonofHorus Yes and no, it's just your accent. Your pronunciation is fine for your dialect.
@@pcbangbros8350 My accent is real English. Deal with it :^)
@@AeonofHorus That's true, but the characters are named in Japanese. You'd need a Japanese dialect while pronouncing their names to be accurate. pronounce JP names in "real english" all you want, but it's not real Japanese. :^) ilythosonohate
@@pcbangbros8350 I'm not enough of a weeb for dat :^)