I really wish there was a starborn vasco alternate start. Just imagine opening the door and there is an all knowing variant of vasco that seems more human than robot
There is one universe where Vasco is the only one left of constellation but it was no fun, can't get him as a companion or crew. You can't quicksave or use inventory either. I had to get creative to weaponize myself or heal using the storage box to equip, can't remember how I did it. I seemed to be less vulnerable though. I got all the way to the end but got killed in the final battle. It was a very lonely universe. After I died, it just started a new universe in a normal setting.
@@elinazarielHold up ,I’m almost done with my 1st play through right . Just left NASA and now taking to both Hunter/Emissary. So I won’t be able to use my own inventory after I finish the game ? Explain ,I don’t care about spoilers 😂
@@yomama8391You will. Don't worry about it; this only has a chance to occur after your second NG+. There are unique instances of the world you can experience at random when starting a new game; this is one.
I am pleasantly auprised. There's like 100 videos hating this game and I'm like, "okay I agree with you but I'm still addicted" i like the baron nothingness and effing around on little planets seeing night skies in different solar systems
My theory is that The Serpent is also a Starborn but one that has been doing this for far far longer than any of the other Starborn we meet and has come to the point where they seek to destroy the unity and the multiverse with only a select people being brought to, or resurrected on, a recreated singular universe where there is no unity or starborn
Maybe that being managed to somehow teleport or able to pass through universes to alter them one by one and could be the reason he made his cult to pass his message while he goes around doing the same on other universes. He could be preparing to destroy everything and every single universe.
Man never thought about this but makes sense. I can’t wait to see what the end product this turns out to be down the line but as it is after a few hundred hours it lost its excitement for me. Maybe I just needed a break idk. Def no Skyrim in space but still a huge BGS fan for their game design.
There has to be some connection after all the vision was seen during a grav jump which is directly connected to the unity. Also the guy on earth who created the first grab drive had someone taking to him through the artifact
Starborn, I consider them the ancient humanity that evolved beyond normality. Imagine the pre flood humanity left the planet and settled elsewhere and continued to evolve as we see them today. Skills and abilities that appear to be magic but everything we cannot understand appears to be just that. I envision they could have a cloaked planet that would exist in all realities but hidden to all those that are not NG+. Imagine NG+ quest given to the player to change the flow of specific realities! The NG+ could be held to a higher calling. Imagine if you would have missions to tweak realities to enhance or destroy a certain timeline. Of course, the player should gain the ability to customize both ships, weapons and healing components beyond what mere mortals are capable of.
I think shattered space will touch onto The more new metaphysical aspects of the story and the next dlc which has been leaked and presumably titled starborn, will likely really dive into the nature of what it means to be a starborn
I just hope that they'll add more New Game Plus universes 10 just isn't enough also I am nearing the end of the game and from your experiences can you say if my first character should become Starborn? Cuz I know it doesn't really matter gameplay wise but it's a big event in the story and from what I'm seeing here in the lore it's kind of sad to be Starborn and I've seen people online regretting the fact that the first character became Starborn so what should I do? Become Starborn on my first playthrough or not and do it on my second instead
I feel like the starborn that you come across at the temples and the relics are on the side of the emissary. At least some of them are because they have lines of dialogue that say "you're not worthy" and the only one who heavily personifies that is the emissary
I think at least some are, as the Emissary repeatedly does say "we" in various dialogues. I doubt any are with the Hunter, as his philosophy doesn't really lend itself to teaming up all too often, player character excluded (although one question I have is why... there's no indication we see that multiple people can't go through the Unity, in fact we have proof that they can... why wouldn't the Emissary and Hunter just both go through? Not like the Emissary can un-Starborn the Hunter, so why the endless fighting and resistance?) I guess that's actually one of the themes of the game, and proof that Starborn really aren't much better than humans. Just like the UC and Freestar Collective who manage to still fight over resources despite having practically infinite resources available, so too do the Starborn. How very... human of them.
@@rylian21 kek, you can mow down the Scorpius and Helix like nothing with a "normal" ship and both those ships are _better_ then the Guardian VI you can get. It's a good starter ship but a PoS about 5 seconds after you start NG+ and can afford a _real_ ship.
I feel that the pathway to being able to successfully pass through the Unity could be a method to prepare the body for being able to pass through the Unity. I also feel that you become less human the more you pass through the Unity. I also think it’s possible that when a Starborn dies the Unity recreates them.
You have given what makes you you to the Unity and universe. So you aren't really anything more than stardust to begin with. Is what we give the up that acts like a supernova exploding through the universe our soul? Is that the unique part of us that we choose to give up? So we are just constantly being reformed all around and over and over?
It could be classic case that we see a lot in things like fantasy or even some other syfy universes such as star wars where the more powerful one becomes and the closer one gets to divinity the more they go from being a physical being to a spiritual one like even the daedra from the elder scrolls don't have physical body's they take on physical forms when summoned into mundus but once you "kill" them the actual daedra just returns to there realm and only a husk remains and I imagine it's a similar case with the starborn
In every universe you visit, you have already died. Is it perdition? You are neither dead nor alive, but must relive your life over and over again. There comes a point, however, in everyone's playthroughs when they can no longer continue due to gamebreaking bugs. I suppose you could call that Nirvana.
@@chrissyppknot every universe, their is a chance to come across yourself. Either another Starborn version of yourself that gone crazy or that universe native version of yourself.
regarding how starborn know things about other versions of themselves, it could simply be an intrinsic knowledge of the multiverse, the way we have an empirical knowledge of schrodinger's equation. If that hunter is alive, he intrinsically knows that other hunters were killed because the state of one determines the other when observed
@27:57 Personally I think the temple Starborn are just there to test your new power. I think it was just a game thing. However in my head I believe we just beat them to the temple and thats why they are angry.
Yeah, I don't think they were "assigned guardians" at all and that theory simply does not fit the lore at all. It's plainly obvious that they are there to get the thing you did but are 30 seconds too late.
Let me start off by saying that more than one person can become starborn in a universe. This is literally spelled out in the Emissary ending where it says that he/she stays behind in the old universe to guide worthy people to the unity. This is also heavily implied in the independent ending. However, I do believe that there are only twenty four artifacts per universe, so only one person can use them to enter the unity at a time unless they're riding on the same ship as the player character. What I imagine is that after a person goes through the unity, the artifacts are teleported by the unity either back to their original hiding places or into new hiding places. This act also recharges or reactivates the temples. Also on that note, I have an interesting theory about the temples. I believe they serve a similar function as the infinity stones in Marvel (basically holding reality together). However as each universe is unique, their "pillars" are located in different locations. The only difference is the final temple, which I theorize is actually the central hub or pillar upon which all reality connects and is supported, hence why this location never changes.
I described it as space dragon ball you gather the artifacts, you go through the unity then rhe artifacts get bomfed out back across the galaxy, just like the dragon balls after granting a wish and someone else can repeat
These lore videos are amazing, but they make me feel really dumb for not understanding half of this when I played through myself haha. But your explanations of otherwise sort of esoteric dialogue make perfect sense. It's such an interesting way to conclude the game. I love the pilgrim as that bodhisattva figure, I really wish we had more interactions with him. I get that they didn't want to make players feel like they had some weird priest looking over their shoulder, though. I agree The Collector is probably Starborn in some universes!
Because you had too be a brain dead NPC in order too have all of this mind numbing boring dialogue forced down your throat. The lore is cool but how it's delivered and executed is a real shame.
I’m curious if you think the Unity counts as an Einstein-Rosen Bridge. The in-game book, I believe called The Gravity Paradigm, mentions an Einstein-Rosen Bridge and it’s one of the first books you can find in the game. I felt like it was massive, massive foreshadowing because it basically made me aware of what the Unity would be before I ever heard the word Unity in-game. (I’ll admit, my knowledge on the Einstein-Rosen Bridge is relatively light and pop-culture influenced.)
I had interpreted that as the reason grav jumping works, you essentially open a wormhole between you and your destination, but I don't see how it ties to the Unity
There are too many alternate theories when dealing with E-R Bridge, but the one where a wormhole is a link to a set point in time & space (basically where you first touched an artifact & established the “fixed point in time & space”) would fall within one fairly common view, possibly with you being locked out of your point of origin as you should only be able to go to universes where that you chose not to join Constellation…but where are you, this gets insane for playthroughs where you have parents…”why did you act so crazy on our last call where we thanked you for your last visit, or are you going to claim you don’t recall the call?”
"A worm hole between you and your destination.", With destination being subjective it's a worm hole between you and an awakened you. The "awakened you" being the destination. [Inception level of insanity]
Something I've noticed in my playthroughs so far is that 99.9% of worlds with temples on them are hazardous wastelands. Very few worlds I've been to with temples have been habitable. Considering what we learn about Earth and how unlocking the secrets of grav jumping is what destroyed our atmosphere, it makes me wonder if these other worlds are all hazardous because they were the homeworlds of alien civilizations who destroyed their planets in the same way we destroyed ours. I don't know if Bethesda has any plans for sapient extraterrestrial life-forms, but it would be interesting if we eventually discovered alien Starborn. Perhaps the last survivors of an extinct race or races who lost their homeworld, failed to rebuild out in the stars and now all that remain are Starborn who wander the multiverse looking for a universe where their people successfully colonized space and thrived. I mean there is no guarantee humanity will survive because it's not unified and all it takes is another intergalactic war to doom us all. I don't think it's impossible for other civilizations to have failed. 24:20 What if the Great Serpent is an alien Starborn? A member of a saurian species who has been travelling the multiverse for an unfathomable amount of time and is either influencing or being worshiped by humans. House Va'ruun weapons look like no other human weapon in the game and could be of extraterrestrial origin or at the very least built by humans, but modeled after non-human architecture. The particle beam emitted by Va'ruun weapons create similar distortions created by Starborn. There is a definite link between Va'ruun and the Starborn and I think it's logical to believe the Great Serpent is connected as well.
My question is, how many Starborn can enter the Unity in a given universe? If only one can enter the Unity, how are the other Starborn able to move between universes? It feels like a plot hole that other Starborn exist in the universes unless all of them figured out something the player character never will. Unless they have found a way to move between universes without passing through the Unity, how are they present at all? How is it that the Hunter and the Emissary are in very universe wether they make it to the Unity or not?
I see it like in marvels Loki, they are all different variants. That's why I think there is a hunter etc in every universe. All starborn came to our universe through the unity from their universe.
Any number of ppl can go through the unity. It's limitless. But only the first one to go through the unity leaves their personal impression on that universe they left.
If you choose to kill or talk down both the hunter and emissary you'll learn that anyone can enter the unity and become starborn its just that the Emissary in particular wants to become a judge and the hunter is chaotic.
I think they've set themselves up pretty good for future updates. You can keep your save, but add update changes in new game plus and that can go on and on. Not ideal but it would make new game plus feel more rewarding. So let's say they add 20 more dungeon varients, but in your universe youve already explored areas and know whats there. New game plus boom new stuff, feels different
The funniest thing I did was the two Ryujin operatives that were a part of the Juno's gambit mission when you offer to give them a ride back to Neon, instead I took them to the Unity.
What I thought was intresting is that the vanguard, Tuala, will tell you after your first test that your 'physical readings'' are normal only if you havent entered the unity yet. All runs after he mentions something about radiation? At fisrt I thought it was my alien genes treat, but it seems to be the fact im starborn, after starting a new character without the trait.
I was really surprised I was able to convince The Hunter to just give me his artifacts. Anyone else actually convince him instead of fighting him for them?
Yeah, I think he just realized that he wasn't ready to die. On the other hand, my persuasion skill was maxed out. There can be only one! Hmm. I've never tried to kill Aquilus in response to the Hunter killing Sarah, but I seriously doubt it would evoke more than a passing comment, if that. The game can barely hold itself together as is. Pretty sure the bugs aren't a byproduct of infinite player choice ramifications.
I'm really hoping in a dlc the unity can reward us a exotic starborn weapon that we can choose our weapon perks or reroll so every time we start new game plus we start with a good or at least decent weapon that can come with us so we don't start over with nothing
“Instead of awaiting our destruction we can sail straight to the eye of the storm and emerge on the other side with our hard-won betterment” for some reason gave me the idea that maybe we all go through the Unity when we die, (reincarnation, maybe?) but when we go there with the armillary, we’re “cheating” and get to experience our life again, but with past memories. So I wonder if the Creators made the multiverse as a way of planning out all possible situations. So when you die, they just put you back to see how things play out this time. Maybe Starborn are escaping the “simulation” as it were, if you want it call it that.
I'm hoping for a lot more alternate universes in the future. Like universes where there's a fast food chain named Spheres instead of Chunks and that's the only difference. Or where Vae Victis is actually plotting to escape and take over and the UN becomes a hostile authoritarian faction.
Im hoping for way more changes than just the lodge in future updates. Like make universes really stand out from each other. I remember going to one and I went into the sanctum and saw a black dude sitting in Acquilis's chair and I thought he turned black but nah it was another guy. Like have delgago run sysdef while the other dude is in charge of the crimson fleet. Stuff to really spice up NG+
The starborn are almost in a dark forest state of existence, in a way the unity is more a curse, how many have gotten lost and gone insane trying in vain to get home, maybe the unity is used as a big social experiment
Perhaps the starborn will have a compulsion they cannot resist to go to the starborn home world, they must find it! Once NG+ the desire to return is like a craving for a drug giving meaning to becoming NG+. What happens once the player arrives you could go before a council and be given choices, quest or perhaps become a NG+ outlaw depending.
Just for funsies and to let you know, “Fionn” (pronounced “Finn”) is likely a reference to the hero of Irish folklore, Fionn mac Cumhail (pronounced “McCool”). 🍀
Thank you for this video I love sci-fi and the star born! Storyline it's so interesting and fascinating I wish there was more about them like movies and books I feel like they so Star Trekkie
Seems to be how things work now. They pretend awesome games with tons of potential are garbage, and garbage games have everything you ever wanted. Hmm, I wonder which one is more expensive.
Anyone else kind of wish Bethesda made it so after becoming Starborn, if you die you get thrown back into the Unity, then when you enter a new universe, your Starborn powers have all leveled down? Not sure why but I think that would have been a nice feature.
I wonder..does the process of leaving a bit of yourself behind when crossing over make you more andmore psychopathic over time? Like losing a piece of your soul. Might be why the starborn seem so aggressive and amoral.
Nah it is just Litrealy you leave a piece of yourself behins not many players know this cause the game never tells tou but each time you enter the unity you get a "perk" that makes you weaker I.E take more damage and such. because your leaving some of you behind. But also i think the perk is such a dipshit idea by bethesda like the entire point of entering unity is to get stronger each cycle yet gameplay wise you get weaker lol
@@Originalchili look it up every time you enter the unity you get a hidden perk that debufs you, you take more damage and deal less and it stacks up to ten times after that it stops stacking
Obviously a second person can influence the universe since your lover can also go through the unity and the dialogue with the unity tells you about how they influenced it.
My big questions about the Starborn relate to the tools and structures that define them. It seems like Starborn ships and armor are willed into existence in a way, manifesting around a multiverse traveler. Beyond that though, while Artifacts appear to predate and define the creation of Starborn the related structures of Temples and Anomalies seem almost reactionary. Temples appear on planets with anomalies covering the surface yet even though several are located in inhabited systems, and some even have small human colonies next to them, the general population seems unaware of them. I’ve found anomalies with dead explorers next to them. I’ve seen temples that seem to have captured rocks and trees that suggest they are fairly new, so I suspect that similar to Starborn ships and armor they may have been recently manifested. Caelumite located in abundance around artifacts that produce a zero-G field, also is prevalent around anomalies on these worlds and could be a byproduct of a connection with the unity. Then the question becomes if the temples and anomalies are relatively recent, what nexus event led to their manifestation? They had not been recorded previously, and neither had a prevalence of Starborn. One of the new game plus starts suggests that Starborn can be drawn to certain universes, which could relate to whatever this nexus event was. Could it have been the player finding and touching the artifact? Or a delayed response from Barrett doing so? I feel like we are missing out on something important as to why temples, anomalies, caelumite, and Starborn are suddenly appearing in this timeframe but not before. Why not when Dr. Victor Aiza touched the Martian artifact several hundred years prior? And why did NASA not seem to have any record of caelumite when it has immense crafting potential in the game? Or what about House Va’ruun’s possible exposure to Unity related constructs? In the game, Caelumite is used for stealth related mods, so could provide further evidence for some sort of House Va’ruun connection as they are known for their stealth tech. So many questions.
I have a friend who has a very deep voice and doesn't look like he would. I've just recently found your channel and really enjoyed the videos. I don't know what I'm trying to say here, but it's crazy how similar it is.
I'm only about 12 minutes in, but I just had a thought/theory about what powers the ship you're given, why you can't take anything with you and why the ships blink out of existence when destroyed, but remain if the Starborn pilots are killed outside the ship: The energy source that powers a Guardian ship IS THE PREVIOUS UNIVERSE(S). This is also why they get more powerful every time, because the universes are stacking. When you destroy a Guardian ship, instead of the "engine" exploding or something, it is utterly destroyed, blinked out of existence along with every universe the Starborn pilot inhabited up to that point, presumably returning to the Unity as raw energy to produce a new universe in the multiverse. When a Starborn dies, they, too, appear to blink out of existence, but their ship stays. I think perhaps as long as the ship is intact, that specific Starborn can respawn, given some time, perhaps when the ship detects it is safe to do so. However, I suspect if the ship were destroyed, the Starborn would be taken with it, as the Starborn are bound to their previous universes. Then again, this gets into temporal paradoxes, and I'm in the camp that killing your past self or grandparents would not make you disappear, because those events already happened the way they did for you to exist, and can never be revisited. So if you "went back in time," you're actually still in your own timeline, and all you're doing is visiting a different universe, not your literal past. After all, the timeline you experience is your timeline, no one else's. You exist, so the only way to make you not exist is to kill you in the part of your timeline that has not yet come to pass. Think of it like this: Your timeline is a book. Page one is the beginning of life; your lineage in its entirety. Final page is when nobody is left to remember you existed. This book is already written, but there are similar books with alternate endings, but their beginnings are the same. Time travel is not flipping back the pages in your own book, but rather you looking at the early section of another book parallel to your own. You never really cross into that book, because everything you do in that book is a page in the first book, always flipping the pages forwards. You think you're going back in time, but you are actually still progressing through your timeline, which happens to share aspects of the parallel timeline. No matter what happens, the pages ahead are your timeline drawing ever closer to that final page. So if you say you're gonna go kill your past self, future you is killing a parallel past you. The pages behind you are untouched by your "time travel." It is the multiverse's way to self-correct such a paradox. The only way to kill yourself is to get present you killed. Nothing else can kill you. Nobody can travel back in time and kill you, because those events are not your past, and never can be your past. Anyway, that's my theory on time travel, and suicide by paradox, which does throw a wrench into my Starborn theory. HOWEVER, Bethesda seems to be the kind of people who'd be in the Back to the Future camp, that time travel does affect your own history (absurd, I know), so you have to consider that when theorizing what Bethesda's writers have in mind for the Starborn. If we use Back to the Future logic, then yeah, destroying a Starborn ship, if powered by your previous universes, would essentially destroy ALL matter that came from that series of universes, or at least blink it out of the currently occupied universe, and, as i theorized, return that matter to the Unity, which I think is supposed to be the alpha and omega of all universes. It is where a universe goes to die so it may be reborn.
When finishing a temple and the guardian appeared for a second, before changing to guadian (something) it had the name of "alternate you". Sort of gave it away for me.
You seem like the only Starfield content creator who may really appreciate this; I had a mind blowing experience outside of this new Bethesda masterpiece yet directly connected to it as it came first from our reality and thus inspiring Starfield’s awesome main theme! I stopped the video at 32:59 to text this so lest you mention it afterwards you should be fascinated! Well here goes; after gaming for hours in the Starfield a few if not several months back I went and took a nap, but before hand decided to watch a video on the emerald tablets of Thoth! Over the years I’ve watched and heard of tales and different versions of these so called lost Egyptian tablets and they’re interesting but I never really got anything out of them more than just a cool story! I fell asleep watching the video, and I will now and probably forever question my own reality as to how in the world did I wake up abruptly to my alarm for prayer, before getting up decide to peek at where I left off in the video and play it right at the moment it said(in paraphrase)”and those of the Starborn Races”…? Thus letting me know that Bethesda got their idea of the Starborn from what some people used to call the Egyptian god of Wisdom! There’s no possible way this could have been some coincidence that I see, as I’ve watched that specific video before and different versions over the years and never really thought of much about it; I had no conscious idea about the “Starborn” before Starfield and still would never have tied it Emerald Tablets of Thoth because it never stood out to me before so I consciously had no idea the tablets talked about the “Starborn Races” and most forever shocking to me is how is it possible that I woke up and put the video on in the absolutely precise moment it talked of the Starborn Races? There are no coincidences in life, everything is perfectly designed according to our Creator’s Will as described to us by Him. La ilaha Illallah. 😳🫢🤩/👌✌️🤲☝️🤔
The emissary: it is not fair to the people of this universe that starborn are influencing and changing them without getting a say, it is a responsibility to be a starborn not a privilege for your own satisfaction. Only people who have taken care to sculpt themselves into selfless, empathic beings should enter the unity because if we starborn are going to influence these people without their consent, we should at least leave them better off than we found them. The hunter: There are so many universes, and i have seen only a small number compared against the whole. I have seen bloodshed, virtue, utopia, and apocalypse. This multiverse is one we do not understand, but there is one truth that permeates all reality I have perceived: Strength. Strength will establish order, or sow destruction. Strength will allow one to withstand hardship or permit one to sculpt the world. The unity is not ours to claim ownership of, but we will claim ownership. Therefore among all those who aspire to glimpse eternity it is who is strongest who will enter the next universe. As they pass to another reality, they will leave behind a stronger universe. Perhaps this stronger reality will bend the unity to their will, and expand humanity's horizons beyond this universe. My character: shit i dont have enough credits to pay off this bounty. Whatever, i wont have a bounty in the next universe. (The aftermath is that everyone starts getting parking tickets)
What I don't like about this setup is that the lore pretends like the unity is the answer to the infinite regression behind the 'epistemic wall'. But this cannot be, because we can always simply ask more questions: Why does the Unity exist? Why does the multiverse exist? Why did the builders exist? etc.
I disagree. The plot is that you, the character, want to know more about the unity. When you visit the unity, there aren't any more questions to ask. You are free to wonder what it all means, totally cool. But your character has all the answers they want. There just isn't anything else to be told, at that point you are on the same page as the hunter and emissary.
@@ssgoko88 keeper aquilas talks up the unity as if it answers enough questions that it forms his worldview, it simply does not, given by the specific things he says.
the starborn legit scared me when they were hiding beside one of the artifacts in one of the mines, Just cleared out those pirates and about to get the artifact then boom(we both exploded out of fear I tossed grenades while holding a grenade launcher)
my crack theory is that the unity is actually a countermeasure to keep the few people capable of achieving that level of power stuck in an endless loop across the multiverse constantly seeking that high over and over until they get themselves killed or give up. we've seen Starborn versions of several characters and yet we have not seen a single member of the actual race who created the unity still running around the multiverse. Surely the infinite nature of the multiverse would mean we would've seen at least ONE starborn creator by now.
If you kill Cora Coe in that alternate universe, she doesn't disintegrate into dust interestingly enough. Everyone I talked to said it was so that you could grab the artifacts from her corpse, but there has been plenty of times artifacts were just forced into our inventory so that explanation while maybe correct, just doesn't sit right with me. Not to mention her starborn suit is not one of the variations that the player can obtain.
It is literally so you can get the artifacts ya dolt. The emisarry and hunter do the exact same thing if you kill them just flop over so you can grab the artifacts
@noctotainlowry9246 I was just thinking outside the box "ya dolt". I think now though, I was giving Bethesda too much credit. It's still strange they went through the effort to give her a different suit than any other obtainable by the player and not explain it. And like I said, there were many other instances of getting the artifacts forced into our inventory. If they really wanted to keep with the continuity of their established lore, she should have disintegrated, and so should all the others.
@PowerfulOni pretty sure cora just has the same suit as the emissary(update i looked it up once i got free time cora is just wearing the emissary's starborn outfit and you get that in ng+ 6) also the fuck you mean there are times when artifacts are just plopped in our inventory.....No? Every artefact we get is either Picked up by us or Given to us by another chara at no point is one just magically poofed into our inventory
Wait so ur telling me my adoring fan who was the only one with me my whole game and took the grav jump to unity is now a starborn. He's gotta be so confused because I just always kept him in my ship and never talk to him lol...
There is much potential here. We only appear where our character has died, in that plain. Only in plains where multiple constellation members die in an incident could multiple members meet that knew each other directly. That would be a great introduction to number 2. Your character meets you and describes how he orchestrated an accident in which constellation blows up an all members die. Now they can jump and choose which previous games they played they can revisit for brining the incident to it. Just an idea.
Great video! A thing that bugs me is if there are starborn in any universe you spawn in to. If the Starborn are the same as you going through different timelines, does this mean the Unity chooses which timeline to send you to? Or is it randomly picked? I wish Bethesda would add a randomizer to New Game plus where all the cities are different and planets scattered differently to add to that multi-verse variety and immersion. But that's probably way too much work lol
My biggest questions about the starborn and unity Do the artifacts reset like the dragon balls after you enter the unity? If you kill both the hunter and emissary The entity that "guards" the unity will say that now this universe's ppl are free to find the unity, yet you need the artifacts to reach it. The starborn act as if there is only one time to reach the unity so its confusing. why do the temple guardians only show up after you get the temple's power? What kind of guardian lets you plunder what they guard and only attack you afterwards?
Two of the starborn I had to fight after grabbing an artifact for two different temples were saying something about my character being worthy and one mentioned a test and the other was asking something about is my character worthy of the power so I think they are testing the character to see if we are capable or deserving of the powers and out trip through unity but I’m not sure I had to kill them fast because they are strong af lol
They didnt think much with the alternative universes, i would have made much more. One cool idea would be that everyone died because the microbe over the dino option killed everyone.
Perhaps of interest, I use a looting mod which at one point stripped, looted, NPCs unintentionally if shot at point-blank. I encountered a Starborn ship that landed so close to me that I was able to climb up the wing close to the door before the Starborn exited. One I shot so close, that the Starborn was stripped to underwear and I was able to get a screen-shot of him. Unfortunately I received no loot or spacesuit. So far in 91 levels it has happened only once.
I think it's important to note that the Starborn don't always turn into dust immediately after death. We know their corpses can persist, cause when you kill the Hunter (or the Emissary) Their corpse has to be looted, then it disappears. So, they could still very well appear as an enemy faction like the Spacers and Ecliptic in future DLC.
So what happens to Starborns in universe after you jump? Are they stuck and have to assemble artifacts and jump one by one or 300 of them go on single ship to Unity?
I know that is would be very time consuming for Bethesda but I would have loved to have seen more things different in each reality than just the loge. Maybe a reality where the UC won the war or maybe one where the Crimson Fleet took over New Atlantic.
The collector isn’t starborn because A: he doesn’t vanish when he dies and B: starborn wouldn’t be materialistic because you can’t take anything except yourself past the unity. So what’s the point of collecting things?
Guys, I chose the Hunter almost every time I went through the unity. I agreed with him more, "Anyone who can collect the artefacts should." and his "Remember the one who isn't judging you."
My brain is hurting now.... 😶😶 Yes, some things are done by Bathesta for game balancing sakes. But that whole Starborn thing and the Unity - that is deeply thought provoking. Something that was totally unexpected for the new "Fallout in space"... ✌✌
if one was to think about it long enough there is no point to anything just in what you do at that time for in the end nothing really matters in the billons of years after all is gone......
At the very end when analyzing the books and how Unity sends starborn to be guildes, it really sounds like whoever created the starborn and the system with ships and multiverse travel, wants all the people to eventually become starborn. A different lifeform making an intentional system to make humans ascend to a different form?
What’s important to consider is that the books are written from the perspective of the Pilgrim/Keeper Aquilus so that’s just his view on things rather than what may actually be happening.
I wish the Starborn Guardian had a bed. I almost always go steal a ship with a bed or upgrade the Frontier to a 30 LY ship (not cheap when NG+ med pack and bullets buying) as soon as I can to have a frikkin' bed. Med Packs, Emergency Kits and Trauma Packs are how I make it through the end temple not how I recover health while playing an NG+ run. One frikkin' bed or way to recover health in the Guardian would be wonderful.
This implies there must be an infinite number of starborn. If there indeed are, then every physical space of every universe would be filled with the body of a starborn. Also, there would have to be multiple separate Unities as I doubt all starborn in an entire universe are human, let alone humans from one particular galaxy,
I just started a new playthrough the other day. Totally fresh game. I'm still pretty early on in the game. I haven't done either of the two quests you get where you can go to akila with Sam Coe or to the eye to meet Vladimir for the first time. I went to some bar/cafe (terrabrew maybe?) in New Atlantis and the hunter was chilling over in the corner. I spoke to him and he was surprisingly chill. He didn't acknowledge me or anything like that but he did say something cryptic. If I hadn't played the game before, I definitely would have been like who tf was that? It made me wonder if some mod I had caused it or if that always has a chance of happening
I know it’s just most likely for the game loot and not lore but you can get the Emissary’s armor if you kill both at the end and loot it fast enough and its not legendary.
I think it would have been super cool if you could start the game on a NG+ and meet the hunter instead of Constillation making it more of a race for power and the unity
One of the big disappointments for me on new game + is that we dont get to keep any of our ammo. I get that we dont carry over guns because it would make the game too easy and less rewarding when trying to earn that unique weapon like in a normal playthrough, but as enemies level and take more bullets while you also dont carry over any of your credits.... well, it makes the early game in new game + quite a bit annoying.
I feel like there is a council of star born that are trying to protect the multiverse from interference in other universes kinda like the council of Ricks from Rick and Morty and then you have the great serpent which could be an ancient powerful star born or the real antagonist yet to be revealed
Wait, if multiple people can enter the Unity at once, why don’t the Emissary and Hunter just stop fighting, consolidate their artifacts, then jump together?
Because a piece of you/your "soul" that gets left behind assumingly dominates the nature of the universe being left behind so to have two opposites enter the Unity would mean no one "soul" completely wins and I would also speculate since entering through the Unity keeps enhancing your abilities as Starborn, neither the Hunter or Emissary wants to give the other one that boost. But because of the nature of an infinitude of universes and scenarios, your suggestion has probably happened already.
I think they’re tricked into locking themselves into a multiversal time loop in order to allow certain events to pass as they are “meant to” that’s why they always enter a universe at a particular set place and time, also why they’ve played a role in larger events in history like the discovery of the grab drives. The entity you encounter in the unity says it was simply made by “the creators” and the unity is “the place where the stars themselves are written” or whatever lol
Once we kill the hunter, he just pops back into the next universe and starts looking for artifacts again, you even have dialogue options where you refer to the new game plus main quest as a repeating loop
Wait, how do you know the pilgrim is Keeper Aquilus. Is it the Starborn Keeper Aquilus? If so, why does it talk about how good it is to help people in the journals?
I chose to side with neither the Emissary or the Hunter. Both are right. Both are wrong. Both hold the ingredients for truth. The path of truth bisects them both, but neither walk that path. It is you whom must cast them both aside, and walk the path of truth.
Wonder if starboard are immortal since they make it seem like they've lived for a long time also what happens to their body's when they die or maby their just returned to the unity and then sent out again.
Although I find the dialogue cringey, I’m a huge fan of the villainous Starborn. Their voice, power, alien-like persona, high end tech, and mystery are very attractive elements.
So...the players starborn name is The Stranger"? Are these names also part of the games you can find in Starfield? Would be quite funny, as you can play games over and over as well...
I really wish there was a starborn vasco alternate start. Just imagine opening the door and there is an all knowing variant of vasco that seems more human than robot
Be my favorite lmaoo
Would never leave a universe if I could have a Vasco companion like that!
There is one universe where Vasco is the only one left of constellation but it was no fun, can't get him as a companion or crew. You can't quicksave or use inventory either. I had to get creative to weaponize myself or heal using the storage box to equip, can't remember how I did it. I seemed to be less vulnerable though. I got all the way to the end but got killed in the final battle. It was a very lonely universe. After I died, it just started a new universe in a normal setting.
@@elinazarielHold up ,I’m almost done with my 1st play through right . Just left NASA and now taking to both Hunter/Emissary. So I won’t be able to use my own inventory after I finish the game ? Explain ,I don’t care about spoilers 😂
@@yomama8391You will. Don't worry about it; this only has a chance to occur after your second NG+. There are unique instances of the world you can experience at random when starting a new game; this is one.
I am pleasantly auprised. There's like 100 videos hating this game and I'm like, "okay I agree with you but I'm still addicted" i like the baron nothingness and effing around on little planets seeing night skies in different solar systems
My theory is that The Serpent is also a Starborn but one that has been doing this for far far longer than any of the other Starborn we meet and has come to the point where they seek to destroy the unity and the multiverse with only a select people being brought to, or resurrected on, a recreated singular universe where there is no unity or starborn
Maybe that being managed to somehow teleport or able to pass through universes to alter them one by one and could be the reason he made his cult to pass his message while he goes around doing the same on other universes. He could be preparing to destroy everything and every single universe.
@@jgon12 that's also a distinct possibility
Man never thought about this but makes sense. I can’t wait to see what the end product this turns out to be down the line but as it is after a few hundred hours it lost its excitement for me. Maybe I just needed a break idk. Def no Skyrim in space but still a huge BGS fan for their game design.
There has to be some connection after all the vision was seen during a grav jump which is directly connected to the unity. Also the guy on earth who created the first grab drive had someone taking to him through the artifact
@@alexrobber5384 the naming convention alone is already an interesting coincidence
Anyone else feels like the Starborn opens up a hole can of worms that need answers that feels like we will have get those answers in dlc
Starborn, I consider them the ancient humanity that evolved beyond normality. Imagine the pre flood humanity left the planet and settled elsewhere and continued to evolve as we see them today. Skills and abilities that appear to be magic but everything we cannot understand appears to be just that. I envision they could have a cloaked planet that would exist in all realities but hidden to all those that are not NG+. Imagine NG+ quest given to the player to change the flow of specific realities! The NG+ could be held to a higher calling. Imagine if you would have missions to tweak realities to enhance or destroy a certain timeline. Of course, the player should gain the ability to customize both ships, weapons and healing components beyond what mere mortals are capable of.
I think shattered space will touch onto The more new metaphysical aspects of the story and the next dlc which has been leaked and presumably titled starborn, will likely really dive into the nature of what it means to be a starborn
I just hope that they'll add more New Game Plus universes 10 just isn't enough also I am nearing the end of the game and from your experiences can you say if my first character should become Starborn? Cuz I know it doesn't really matter gameplay wise but it's a big event in the story and from what I'm seeing here in the lore it's kind of sad to be Starborn and I've seen people online regretting the fact that the first character became Starborn so what should I do? Become Starborn on my first playthrough or not and do it on my second instead
Sound familiar lol
I feel like the starborn that you come across at the temples and the relics are on the side of the emissary. At least some of them are because they have lines of dialogue that say "you're not worthy" and the only one who heavily personifies that is the emissary
I think at least some are, as the Emissary repeatedly does say "we" in various dialogues. I doubt any are with the Hunter, as his philosophy doesn't really lend itself to teaming up all too often, player character excluded (although one question I have is why... there's no indication we see that multiple people can't go through the Unity, in fact we have proof that they can... why wouldn't the Emissary and Hunter just both go through? Not like the Emissary can un-Starborn the Hunter, so why the endless fighting and resistance?)
I guess that's actually one of the themes of the game, and proof that Starborn really aren't much better than humans. Just like the UC and Freestar Collective who manage to still fight over resources despite having practically infinite resources available, so too do the Starborn. How very... human of them.
I really wish we could upgrade our Starborn Guardian ships somehow
Maybe in a future DLC there will be a Starborn hub where all Starborn gather and prepare.
They upgrade every time you go through Unity.
@@rylian21only the first 6 times.
@@rylian21 barely
@@rylian21 kek, you can mow down the Scorpius and Helix like nothing with a "normal" ship and both those ships are _better_ then the Guardian VI you can get. It's a good starter ship but a PoS about 5 seconds after you start NG+ and can afford a _real_ ship.
I imagine there will be a dlc going more in-depth on what a star born is
Shattered Space will be a Va’Ruun DLC, I’m sure it’ll give us lots more into the multiverse and starborn stuff
It is Bethesda we're talking about, don't get your hopes up lads.
@@biscottibandit2709oh look you were right.
Petov in the visions isn’t petov at all rather a manifestation of your actions playing with your morality
I feel that the pathway to being able to successfully pass through the Unity could be a method to prepare the body for being able to pass through the Unity. I also feel that you become less human the more you pass through the Unity. I also think it’s possible that when a Starborn dies the Unity recreates them.
You have given what makes you you to the Unity and universe. So you aren't really anything more than stardust to begin with. Is what we give the up that acts like a supernova exploding through the universe our soul? Is that the unique part of us that we choose to give up? So we are just constantly being reformed all around and over and over?
It could be classic case that we see a lot in things like fantasy or even some other syfy universes such as star wars where the more powerful one becomes and the closer one gets to divinity the more they go from being a physical being to a spiritual one like even the daedra from the elder scrolls don't have physical body's they take on physical forms when summoned into mundus but once you "kill" them the actual daedra just returns to there realm and only a husk remains and I imagine it's a similar case with the starborn
In every universe you visit, you have already died. Is it perdition? You are neither dead nor alive, but must relive your life over and over again. There comes a point, however, in everyone's playthroughs when they can no longer continue due to gamebreaking bugs. I suppose you could call that Nirvana.
@@chrissyppknot every universe, their is a chance to come across yourself. Either another Starborn version of yourself that gone crazy or that universe native version of yourself.
The hunter gets it, you become desensitized to human life knowing none of it really matters.
In Fallout 5 we will find out we are the Nukaborn
lolll im happy i was alive to see this comment
"Sir you have cancer from drinking to much nuka-quantum" *So what your saying is i am Nukaborn?*
Amazing video as always, the Hunter is definitely one of my favorite characters in the game
During first playthro I figured he was important as you run into him in several bars and he talks ominously
regarding how starborn know things about other versions of themselves, it could simply be an intrinsic knowledge of the multiverse, the way we have an empirical knowledge of schrodinger's equation. If that hunter is alive, he intrinsically knows that other hunters were killed because the state of one determines the other when observed
Exactly this, and why I’m sure it’s no happy accident why they drop “quantum essence” when killed
@27:57 Personally I think the temple Starborn are just there to test your new power. I think it was just a game thing. However in my head I believe we just beat them to the temple and thats why they are angry.
Yeah, I don't think they were "assigned guardians" at all and that theory simply does not fit the lore at all. It's plainly obvious that they are there to get the thing you did but are 30 seconds too late.
Thank you for these lore videos! I can't wait for the dlc's for this game just for the lore.
Let me start off by saying that more than one person can become starborn in a universe. This is literally spelled out in the Emissary ending where it says that he/she stays behind in the old universe to guide worthy people to the unity. This is also heavily implied in the independent ending. However, I do believe that there are only twenty four artifacts per universe, so only one person can use them to enter the unity at a time unless they're riding on the same ship as the player character. What I imagine is that after a person goes through the unity, the artifacts are teleported by the unity either back to their original hiding places or into new hiding places. This act also recharges or reactivates the temples. Also on that note, I have an interesting theory about the temples. I believe they serve a similar function as the infinity stones in Marvel (basically holding reality together). However as each universe is unique, their "pillars" are located in different locations. The only difference is the final temple, which I theorize is actually the central hub or pillar upon which all reality connects and is supported, hence why this location never changes.
I described it as space dragon ball you gather the artifacts, you go through the unity then rhe artifacts get bomfed out back across the galaxy, just like the dragon balls after granting a wish and someone else can repeat
Damn. Great video. Best Starborn lore video on youtube.
Another great video. Lots of information and things to think about. Also you have a really cool sounding voice. Cheers!
Thank you!
These lore videos are amazing, but they make me feel really dumb for not understanding half of this when I played through myself haha. But your explanations of otherwise sort of esoteric dialogue make perfect sense. It's such an interesting way to conclude the game. I love the pilgrim as that bodhisattva figure, I really wish we had more interactions with him. I get that they didn't want to make players feel like they had some weird priest looking over their shoulder, though. I agree The Collector is probably Starborn in some universes!
Because you had too be a brain dead NPC in order too have all of this mind numbing boring dialogue forced down your throat.
The lore is cool but how it's delivered and executed is a real shame.
Honestly the lore video's makes any game that has people doing them far more fun. I love these kinds of video's.
I’m curious if you think the Unity counts as an Einstein-Rosen Bridge. The in-game book, I believe called The Gravity Paradigm, mentions an Einstein-Rosen Bridge and it’s one of the first books you can find in the game. I felt like it was massive, massive foreshadowing because it basically made me aware of what the Unity would be before I ever heard the word Unity in-game. (I’ll admit, my knowledge on the Einstein-Rosen Bridge is relatively light and pop-culture influenced.)
I had interpreted that as the reason grav jumping works, you essentially open a wormhole between you and your destination, but I don't see how it ties to the Unity
I would say so in some ways yes with of course the added Starfield effect!
There are too many alternate theories when dealing with E-R Bridge, but the one where a wormhole is a link to a set point in time & space (basically where you first touched an artifact & established the “fixed point in time & space”) would fall within one fairly common view, possibly with you being locked out of your point of origin as you should only be able to go to universes where that you chose not to join Constellation…but where are you, this gets insane for playthroughs where you have parents…”why did you act so crazy on our last call where we thanked you for your last visit, or are you going to claim you don’t recall the call?”
@@nateo3040you have to use the grav drive WITH the armilary on your ship in order to reach unity
"A worm hole between you and your destination.", With destination being subjective it's a worm hole between you and an awakened you. The "awakened you" being the destination. [Inception level of insanity]
Something I've noticed in my playthroughs so far is that 99.9% of worlds with temples on them are hazardous wastelands. Very few worlds I've been to with temples have been habitable. Considering what we learn about Earth and how unlocking the secrets of grav jumping is what destroyed our atmosphere, it makes me wonder if these other worlds are all hazardous because they were the homeworlds of alien civilizations who destroyed their planets in the same way we destroyed ours.
I don't know if Bethesda has any plans for sapient extraterrestrial life-forms, but it would be interesting if we eventually discovered alien Starborn. Perhaps the last survivors of an extinct race or races who lost their homeworld, failed to rebuild out in the stars and now all that remain are Starborn who wander the multiverse looking for a universe where their people successfully colonized space and thrived. I mean there is no guarantee humanity will survive because it's not unified and all it takes is another intergalactic war to doom us all. I don't think it's impossible for other civilizations to have failed.
24:20 What if the Great Serpent is an alien Starborn? A member of a saurian species who has been travelling the multiverse for an unfathomable amount of time and is either influencing or being worshiped by humans. House Va'ruun weapons look like no other human weapon in the game and could be of extraterrestrial origin or at the very least built by humans, but modeled after non-human architecture. The particle beam emitted by Va'ruun weapons create similar distortions created by Starborn. There is a definite link between Va'ruun and the Starborn and I think it's logical to believe the Great Serpent is connected as well.
My question is, how many Starborn can enter the Unity in a given universe? If only one can enter the Unity, how are the other Starborn able to move between universes? It feels like a plot hole that other Starborn exist in the universes unless all of them figured out something the player character never will. Unless they have found a way to move between universes without passing through the Unity, how are they present at all? How is it that the Hunter and the Emissary are in very universe wether they make it to the Unity or not?
I see it like in marvels Loki, they are all different variants. That's why I think there is a hunter etc in every universe. All starborn came to our universe through the unity from their universe.
There is no limit to how many people can go through the unity in any universe
Any number of ppl can go through the unity. It's limitless. But only the first one to go through the unity leaves their personal impression on that universe they left.
If you choose to kill or talk down both the hunter and emissary you'll learn that anyone can enter the unity and become starborn its just that the Emissary in particular wants to become a judge and the hunter is chaotic.
@@relaxedclaw yeah the hunter just wants to kill people for entertainment
I think they've set themselves up pretty good for future updates. You can keep your save, but add update changes in new game plus and that can go on and on. Not ideal but it would make new game plus feel more rewarding. So let's say they add 20 more dungeon varients, but in your universe youve already explored areas and know whats there. New game plus boom new stuff, feels different
The funniest thing I did was the two Ryujin operatives that were a part of the Juno's gambit mission when you offer to give them a ride back to Neon, instead I took them to the Unity.
What I thought was intresting is that the vanguard, Tuala, will tell you after your first test that your 'physical readings'' are normal only if you havent entered the unity yet. All runs after he mentions something about radiation? At fisrt I thought it was my alien genes treat, but it seems to be the fact im starborn, after starting a new character without the trait.
God when the Hunter and Emissary reveal their faces it reminds me too much of MODOK and I hate it 😂
Right? Weirdly oversized
Another great video as always Nef.
I was really surprised I was able to convince The Hunter to just give me his artifacts. Anyone else actually convince him instead of fighting him for them?
Yeah, I think he just realized that he wasn't ready to die. On the other hand, my persuasion skill was maxed out. There can be only one! Hmm. I've never tried to kill Aquilus in response to the Hunter killing Sarah, but I seriously doubt it would evoke more than a passing comment, if that. The game can barely hold itself together as is. Pretty sure the bugs aren't a byproduct of infinite player choice ramifications.
Starborn? You know who they are... or... who they will become.
They... in thousands of years.... will become Dragonborn.
A few more NG+ and you're in a cart to Helgen 😃
I'm really hoping in a dlc the unity can reward us a exotic starborn weapon that we can choose our weapon perks or reroll so every time we start new game plus we start with a good or at least decent weapon that can come with us so we don't start over with nothing
“Instead of awaiting our destruction we can sail straight to the eye of the storm and emerge on the other side with our hard-won betterment” for some reason gave me the idea that maybe we all go through the Unity when we die, (reincarnation, maybe?) but when we go there with the armillary, we’re “cheating” and get to experience our life again, but with past memories.
So I wonder if the Creators made the multiverse as a way of planning out all possible situations. So when you die, they just put you back to see how things play out this time. Maybe Starborn are escaping the “simulation” as it were, if you want it call it that.
I'm hoping for a lot more alternate universes in the future. Like universes where there's a fast food chain named Spheres instead of Chunks and that's the only difference. Or where Vae Victis is actually plotting to escape and take over and the UN becomes a hostile authoritarian faction.
Im hoping for way more changes than just the lodge in future updates. Like make universes really stand out from each other. I remember going to one and I went into the sanctum and saw a black dude sitting in Acquilis's chair and I thought he turned black but nah it was another guy. Like have delgago run sysdef while the other dude is in charge of the crimson fleet. Stuff to really spice up NG+
Thanks. I needed a laugh, but I believe they'd be called Balls.
The starborn are almost in a dark forest state of existence, in a way the unity is more a curse, how many have gotten lost and gone insane trying in vain to get home, maybe the unity is used as a big social experiment
Perhaps the starborn will have a compulsion they cannot resist to go to the starborn home world, they must find it! Once NG+ the desire to return is like a craving for a drug giving meaning to becoming NG+. What happens once the player arrives you could go before a council and be given choices, quest or perhaps become a NG+ outlaw depending.
Interesting , Thank You.
Very well put together video
Great Video !
Just for funsies and to let you know, “Fionn” (pronounced “Finn”) is likely a reference to the hero of Irish folklore, Fionn mac Cumhail (pronounced “McCool”). 🍀
Irish people are fun, “this here’s me mate Mcool” “how do you spell that?” “CUMHAIL”
Finn Mac cool was an old activation key for early winzip versions. I always thought is was just a random text generated code.
@@seanvinsick the more you know 🌈💫😊
Thank you for this video I love sci-fi and the star born! Storyline it's so interesting and fascinating I wish there was more about them like movies and books I feel like they so Star Trekkie
Thank you for watching!
I honestly think this game is so damn underrated. Lore is so cool.
Seems to be how things work now. They pretend awesome games with tons of potential are garbage, and garbage games have everything you ever wanted. Hmm, I wonder which one is more expensive.
Anyone else kind of wish Bethesda made it so after becoming Starborn, if you die you get thrown back into the Unity, then when you enter a new universe, your Starborn powers have all leveled down? Not sure why but I think that would have been a nice feature.
The part you leave in your original universe is the your memory to those that knew you.
I always assumed that the serpent was an idea created by a starborn across every universe that represents the Unity.
One of the temples gives powers to you and Barrett so I’m pretty sure they’re multiple use items
Yes this
I wonder..does the process of leaving a bit of yourself behind when crossing over make you more andmore psychopathic over time? Like losing a piece of your soul. Might be why the starborn seem so aggressive and amoral.
Nah it is just Litrealy you leave a piece of yourself behins not many players know this cause the game never tells tou but each time you enter the unity you get a "perk" that makes you weaker I.E take more damage and such. because your leaving some of you behind. But also i think the perk is such a dipshit idea by bethesda like the entire point of entering unity is to get stronger each cycle yet gameplay wise you get weaker lol
@@noctotainlowry9246I've never heard of this
@@Originalchili look it up every time you enter the unity you get a hidden perk that debufs you, you take more damage and deal less and it stacks up to ten times after that it stops stacking
Obviously a second person can influence the universe since your lover can also go through the unity and the dialogue with the unity tells you about how they influenced it.
My big questions about the Starborn relate to the tools and structures that define them. It seems like Starborn ships and armor are willed into existence in a way, manifesting around a multiverse traveler. Beyond that though, while Artifacts appear to predate and define the creation of Starborn the related structures of Temples and Anomalies seem almost reactionary.
Temples appear on planets with anomalies covering the surface yet even though several are located in inhabited systems, and some even have small human colonies next to them, the general population seems unaware of them. I’ve found anomalies with dead explorers next to them. I’ve seen temples that seem to have captured rocks and trees that suggest they are fairly new, so I suspect that similar to Starborn ships and armor they may have been recently manifested. Caelumite located in abundance around artifacts that produce a zero-G field, also is prevalent around anomalies on these worlds and could be a byproduct of a connection with the unity.
Then the question becomes if the temples and anomalies are relatively recent, what nexus event led to their manifestation? They had not been recorded previously, and neither had a prevalence of Starborn. One of the new game plus starts suggests that Starborn can be drawn to certain universes, which could relate to whatever this nexus event was. Could it have been the player finding and touching the artifact? Or a delayed response from Barrett doing so? I feel like we are missing out on something important as to why temples, anomalies, caelumite, and Starborn are suddenly appearing in this timeframe but not before.
Why not when Dr. Victor Aiza touched the Martian artifact several hundred years prior? And why did NASA not seem to have any record of caelumite when it has immense crafting potential in the game? Or what about House Va’ruun’s possible exposure to Unity related constructs? In the game, Caelumite is used for stealth related mods, so could provide further evidence for some sort of House Va’ruun connection as they are known for their stealth tech.
So many questions.
Interesting and unic topic of Starfield. If possible do a video about upgrading some other suit and other tips to avoid the lack of oxigene.
I have a friend who has a very deep voice and doesn't look like he would. I've just recently found your channel and really enjoyed the videos. I don't know what I'm trying to say here, but it's crazy how similar it is.
I'm only about 12 minutes in, but I just had a thought/theory about what powers the ship you're given, why you can't take anything with you and why the ships blink out of existence when destroyed, but remain if the Starborn pilots are killed outside the ship:
The energy source that powers a Guardian ship IS THE PREVIOUS UNIVERSE(S).
This is also why they get more powerful every time, because the universes are stacking.
When you destroy a Guardian ship, instead of the "engine" exploding or something, it is utterly destroyed, blinked out of existence along with every universe the Starborn pilot inhabited up to that point, presumably returning to the Unity as raw energy to produce a new universe in the multiverse.
When a Starborn dies, they, too, appear to blink out of existence, but their ship stays. I think perhaps as long as the ship is intact, that specific Starborn can respawn, given some time, perhaps when the ship detects it is safe to do so. However, I suspect if the ship were destroyed, the Starborn would be taken with it, as the Starborn are bound to their previous universes.
Then again, this gets into temporal paradoxes, and I'm in the camp that killing your past self or grandparents would not make you disappear, because those events already happened the way they did for you to exist, and can never be revisited. So if you "went back in time," you're actually still in your own timeline, and all you're doing is visiting a different universe, not your literal past. After all, the timeline you experience is your timeline, no one else's. You exist, so the only way to make you not exist is to kill you in the part of your timeline that has not yet come to pass.
Think of it like this: Your timeline is a book. Page one is the beginning of life; your lineage in its entirety. Final page is when nobody is left to remember you existed. This book is already written, but there are similar books with alternate endings, but their beginnings are the same. Time travel is not flipping back the pages in your own book, but rather you looking at the early section of another book parallel to your own. You never really cross into that book, because everything you do in that book is a page in the first book, always flipping the pages forwards. You think you're going back in time, but you are actually still progressing through your timeline, which happens to share aspects of the parallel timeline. No matter what happens, the pages ahead are your timeline drawing ever closer to that final page. So if you say you're gonna go kill your past self, future you is killing a parallel past you. The pages behind you are untouched by your "time travel." It is the multiverse's way to self-correct such a paradox. The only way to kill yourself is to get present you killed. Nothing else can kill you. Nobody can travel back in time and kill you, because those events are not your past, and never can be your past.
Anyway, that's my theory on time travel, and suicide by paradox, which does throw a wrench into my Starborn theory. HOWEVER, Bethesda seems to be the kind of people who'd be in the Back to the Future camp, that time travel does affect your own history (absurd, I know), so you have to consider that when theorizing what Bethesda's writers have in mind for the Starborn. If we use Back to the Future logic, then yeah, destroying a Starborn ship, if powered by your previous universes, would essentially destroy ALL matter that came from that series of universes, or at least blink it out of the currently occupied universe, and, as i theorized, return that matter to the Unity, which I think is supposed to be the alpha and omega of all universes. It is where a universe goes to die so it may be reborn.
When finishing a temple and the guardian appeared for a second, before changing to guadian (something) it had the name of "alternate you". Sort of gave it away for me.
You seem like the only Starfield content creator who may really appreciate this; I had a mind blowing experience outside of this new Bethesda masterpiece yet directly connected to it as it came first from our reality and thus inspiring Starfield’s awesome main theme! I stopped the video at 32:59 to text this so lest you mention it afterwards you should be fascinated! Well here goes; after gaming for hours in the Starfield a few if not several months back I went and took a nap, but before hand decided to watch a video on the emerald tablets of Thoth! Over the years I’ve watched and heard of tales and different versions of these so called lost Egyptian tablets and they’re interesting but I never really got anything out of them more than just a cool story! I fell asleep watching the video, and I will now and probably forever question my own reality as to how in the world did I wake up abruptly to my alarm for prayer, before getting up decide to peek at where I left off in the video and play it right at the moment it said(in paraphrase)”and those of the Starborn Races”…? Thus letting me know that Bethesda got their idea of the Starborn from what some people used to call the Egyptian god of Wisdom! There’s no possible way this could have been some coincidence that I see, as I’ve watched that specific video before and different versions over the years and never really thought of much about it; I had no conscious idea about the “Starborn” before Starfield and still would never have tied it Emerald Tablets of Thoth because it never stood out to me before so I consciously had no idea the tablets talked about the “Starborn Races” and most forever shocking to me is how is it possible that I woke up and put the video on in the absolutely precise moment it talked of the Starborn Races? There are no coincidences in life, everything is perfectly designed according to our Creator’s Will as described to us by Him. La ilaha Illallah. 😳🫢🤩/👌✌️🤲☝️🤔
The emissary: it is not fair to the people of this universe that starborn are influencing and changing them without getting a say, it is a responsibility to be a starborn not a privilege for your own satisfaction. Only people who have taken care to sculpt themselves into selfless, empathic beings should enter the unity because if we starborn are going to influence these people without their consent, we should at least leave them better off than we found them.
The hunter: There are so many universes, and i have seen only a small number compared against the whole. I have seen bloodshed, virtue, utopia, and apocalypse. This multiverse is one we do not understand, but there is one truth that permeates all reality I have perceived: Strength. Strength will establish order, or sow destruction. Strength will allow one to withstand hardship or permit one to sculpt the world. The unity is not ours to claim ownership of, but we will claim ownership. Therefore among all those who aspire to glimpse eternity it is who is strongest who will enter the next universe. As they pass to another reality, they will leave behind a stronger universe. Perhaps this stronger reality will bend the unity to their will, and expand humanity's horizons beyond this universe.
My character: shit i dont have enough credits to pay off this bounty. Whatever, i wont have a bounty in the next universe. (The aftermath is that everyone starts getting parking tickets)
Am I the only one who thinks that the Serpent is a version of Alduin the World Eater.
Definitely elder scrolls inspired, most likely Satakaal the Yokudan version of akatosh/Alduin
Yeah they definitely reused the whole serpent/dragon that eats world idea that’s present in ES lore
Alduin got elderscrolled away to the end of time right? Could be the unity?
That's not unique to The Elder Scrolls
What I don't like about this setup is that the lore pretends like the unity is the answer to the infinite regression behind the 'epistemic wall'. But this cannot be, because we can always simply ask more questions: Why does the Unity exist? Why does the multiverse exist? Why did the builders exist? etc.
I disagree. The plot is that you, the character, want to know more about the unity. When you visit the unity, there aren't any more questions to ask. You are free to wonder what it all means, totally cool. But your character has all the answers they want. There just isn't anything else to be told, at that point you are on the same page as the hunter and emissary.
@@ssgoko88 keeper aquilas talks up the unity as if it answers enough questions that it forms his worldview, it simply does not, given by the specific things he says.
the starborn legit scared me when they were hiding beside one of the artifacts in one of the mines, Just cleared out those pirates and about to get the artifact then boom(we both exploded out of fear I tossed grenades while holding a grenade launcher)
my crack theory is that the unity is actually a countermeasure to keep the few people capable of achieving that level of power stuck in an endless loop across the multiverse constantly seeking that high over and over until they get themselves killed or give up. we've seen Starborn versions of several characters and yet we have not seen a single member of the actual race who created the unity still running around the multiverse. Surely the infinite nature of the multiverse would mean we would've seen at least ONE starborn creator by now.
If you kill Cora Coe in that alternate universe, she doesn't disintegrate into dust interestingly enough. Everyone I talked to said it was so that you could grab the artifacts from her corpse, but there has been plenty of times artifacts were just forced into our inventory so that explanation while maybe correct, just doesn't sit right with me. Not to mention her starborn suit is not one of the variations that the player can obtain.
It is literally so you can get the artifacts ya dolt. The emisarry and hunter do the exact same thing if you kill them just flop over so you can grab the artifacts
@noctotainlowry9246 I was just thinking outside the box "ya dolt". I think now though, I was giving Bethesda too much credit. It's still strange they went through the effort to give her a different suit than any other obtainable by the player and not explain it. And like I said, there were many other instances of getting the artifacts forced into our inventory. If they really wanted to keep with the continuity of their established lore, she should have disintegrated, and so should all the others.
@PowerfulOni pretty sure cora just has the same suit as the emissary(update i looked it up once i got free time cora is just wearing the emissary's starborn outfit and you get that in ng+ 6) also the fuck you mean there are times when artifacts are just plopped in our inventory.....No? Every artefact we get is either Picked up by us or Given to us by another chara at no point is one just magically poofed into our inventory
Wait so ur telling me my adoring fan who was the only one with me my whole game and took the grav jump to unity is now a starborn. He's gotta be so confused because I just always kept him in my ship and never talk to him lol...
There is much potential here. We only appear where our character has died, in that plain. Only in plains where multiple constellation members die in an incident could multiple members meet that knew each other directly. That would be a great introduction to number 2. Your character meets you and describes how he orchestrated an accident in which constellation blows up an all members die. Now they can jump and choose which previous games they played they can revisit for brining the incident to it. Just an idea.
Great video! A thing that bugs me is if there are starborn in any universe you spawn in to. If the Starborn are the same as you going through different timelines, does this mean the Unity chooses which timeline to send you to? Or is it randomly picked? I wish Bethesda would add a randomizer to New Game plus where all the cities are different and planets scattered differently to add to that multi-verse variety and immersion. But that's probably way too much work lol
Probably a game limitation as you said.
My biggest questions about the starborn and unity
Do the artifacts reset like the dragon balls after you enter the unity? If you kill both the hunter and emissary The entity that "guards" the unity will say that now this universe's ppl are free to find the unity, yet you need the artifacts to reach it. The starborn act as if there is only one time to reach the unity so its confusing.
why do the temple guardians only show up after you get the temple's power? What kind of guardian lets you plunder what they guard and only attack you afterwards?
Went over these in the video! Not much else can be said at this point in time.
Two of the starborn I had to fight after grabbing an artifact for two different temples were saying something about my character being worthy and one mentioned a test and the other was asking something about is my character worthy of the power so I think they are testing the character to see if we are capable or deserving of the powers and out trip through unity but I’m not sure I had to kill them fast because they are strong af lol
Oh yeah hit me with that sweet sweet LORRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE
If you mix the unity floating animation, add strokes, and take into consideration the underwater clutter I have high hopes for seas among the stars.
They didnt think much with the alternative universes, i would have made much more. One cool idea would be that everyone died because the microbe over the dino option killed everyone.
That imo is the greatest sin of this game, just think about all the crazy ideas you can do.
You should be a voice actor. You have a really memorable voice.
Perhaps of interest, I use a looting mod which at one point stripped, looted, NPCs unintentionally if shot at point-blank. I encountered a Starborn ship that landed so close to me that I was able to climb up the wing close to the door before the Starborn exited. One I shot so close, that the Starborn was stripped to underwear and I was able to get a screen-shot of him. Unfortunately I received no loot or spacesuit. So far in 91 levels it has happened only once.
I think it's important to note that the Starborn don't always turn into dust immediately after death. We know their corpses can persist, cause when you kill the Hunter (or the Emissary) Their corpse has to be looted, then it disappears. So, they could still very well appear as an enemy faction like the Spacers and Ecliptic in future DLC.
So what happens to Starborns in universe after you jump?
Are they stuck and have to assemble artifacts and jump one by one or 300 of them go on single ship to Unity?
I know that is would be very time consuming for Bethesda but I would have loved to have seen more things different in each reality than just the loge. Maybe a reality where the UC won the war or maybe one where the Crimson Fleet took over New Atlantic.
That’s too time consuming for a creatively bankrupt studio. They couldn’t even add actual space exploration in a space game.
@@Flamevillegonna cry?
@@Flamevillegonna cry?
@@noctotainlowry9246 yeah!! Cus they ruined an incredible concept with their lack of creativity and reliance on an ancient engine
The collector isn’t starborn because A: he doesn’t vanish when he dies and B: starborn wouldn’t be materialistic because you can’t take anything except yourself past the unity. So what’s the point of collecting things?
Dude you rock!
Man why is the volume so low on this video
Guys, I chose the Hunter almost every time I went through the unity. I agreed with him more, "Anyone who can collect the artefacts should." and his "Remember the one who isn't judging you."
His philosophy is might is right, Essentially that who ever is the strongest rules, that's a recipe for dictators and bullies to prosper
My brain is hurting now.... 😶😶
Yes, some things are done by Bathesta for game balancing sakes. But that whole Starborn thing and the Unity - that is deeply thought provoking. Something that was totally unexpected for the new "Fallout in space"... ✌✌
if one was to think about it long enough there is no point to anything just in what you do at that time for in the end nothing really matters in the billons of years after all is gone......
At the very end when analyzing the books and how Unity sends starborn to be guildes, it really sounds like whoever created the starborn and the system with ships and multiverse travel, wants all the people to eventually become starborn. A different lifeform making an intentional system to make humans ascend to a different form?
What’s important to consider is that the books are written from the perspective of the Pilgrim/Keeper Aquilus so that’s just his view on things rather than what may actually be happening.
I wish the Starborn Guardian had a bed. I almost always go steal a ship with a bed or upgrade the Frontier to a 30 LY ship (not cheap when NG+ med pack and bullets buying) as soon as I can to have a frikkin' bed. Med Packs, Emergency Kits and Trauma Packs are how I make it through the end temple not how I recover health while playing an NG+ run. One frikkin' bed or way to recover health in the Guardian would be wonderful.
Everything is Everything
This implies there must be an infinite number of starborn. If there indeed are, then every physical space of every universe would be filled with the body of a starborn.
Also, there would have to be multiple separate Unities as I doubt all starborn in an entire universe are human, let alone humans from one particular galaxy,
I just started a new playthrough the other day. Totally fresh game. I'm still pretty early on in the game. I haven't done either of the two quests you get where you can go to akila with Sam Coe or to the eye to meet Vladimir for the first time. I went to some bar/cafe (terrabrew maybe?) in New Atlantis and the hunter was chilling over in the corner. I spoke to him and he was surprisingly chill. He didn't acknowledge me or anything like that but he did say something cryptic. If I hadn't played the game before, I definitely would have been like who tf was that? It made me wonder if some mod I had caused it or if that always has a chance of happening
I know it’s just most likely for the game loot and not lore but you can get the Emissary’s armor if you kill both at the end and loot it fast enough and its not legendary.
Her armor is also known as the starborn gravitas suit.
@@mudkipz3213or his armor the hunter is the one thats static on the who
When starborn die they just go to their last autosave
it would be great if they would add a highlander logic to the starborn (there can only be one)
I think it would have been super cool if you could start the game on a NG+ and meet the hunter instead of Constillation making it more of a race for power and the unity
One of the big disappointments for me on new game + is that we dont get to keep any of our ammo. I get that we dont carry over guns because it would make the game too easy and less rewarding when trying to earn that unique weapon like in a normal playthrough, but as enemies level and take more bullets while you also dont carry over any of your credits.... well, it makes the early game in new game + quite a bit annoying.
Everytime i get a bit bored with the game i watch one of your lore vid’s for inspirasion and dive into a new game + 😅😁
I feel like there is a council of star born that are trying to protect the multiverse from interference in other universes kinda like the council of Ricks from Rick and Morty and then you have the great serpent which could be an ancient powerful star born or the real antagonist yet to be revealed
If multiple people go through the Unity, their personalities get shared. You learn this with your romance options.
Wait, if multiple people can enter the Unity at once, why don’t the Emissary and Hunter just stop fighting, consolidate their artifacts, then jump together?
Because a piece of you/your "soul" that gets left behind assumingly dominates the nature of the universe being left behind so to have two opposites enter the Unity would mean no one "soul" completely wins and I would also speculate since entering through the Unity keeps enhancing your abilities as Starborn, neither the Hunter or Emissary wants to give the other one that boost. But because of the nature of an infinitude of universes and scenarios, your suggestion has probably happened already.
I wish you could customize your starborn ship.
I think they’re tricked into locking themselves into a multiversal time loop in order to allow certain events to pass as they are “meant to” that’s why they always enter a universe at a particular set place and time, also why they’ve played a role in larger events in history like the discovery of the grab drives. The entity you encounter in the unity says it was simply made by “the creators” and the unity is “the place where the stars themselves are written” or whatever lol
Once we kill the hunter, he just pops back into the next universe and starts looking for artifacts again, you even have dialogue options where you refer to the new game plus main quest as a repeating loop
Wait, how do you know the pilgrim is Keeper Aquilus. Is it the Starborn Keeper Aquilus? If so, why does it talk about how good it is to help people in the journals?
I chose to side with neither the Emissary or the Hunter.
Both are right. Both are wrong. Both hold the ingredients for truth.
The path of truth bisects them both, but neither walk that path.
It is you whom must cast them both aside, and walk the path of truth.
They don’t seem that powerful.
*they all die the same way when I get to them* 😈
Wonder if starboard are immortal since they make it seem like they've lived for a long time also what happens to their body's when they die or maby their just returned to the unity and then sent out again.
Although I find the dialogue cringey, I’m a huge fan of the villainous Starborn. Their voice, power, alien-like persona, high end tech, and mystery are very attractive elements.
I wonder if starborn sort of "reform" in the unity and thus go to a different universe or something.
I'm passed the unity 3 times and every time are the same thing, nothing changes. This is a non sense for a multiverse.
They are so powerful, they cause my PC to shut down until the last update, guess they nurffed them.
I’m gonna have to watch this one a few times more. It got kinda wordy and philosophically heavy.
So...the players starborn name is The Stranger"? Are these names also part of the games you can find in Starfield? Would be quite funny, as you can play games over and over as well...