Skyrora has to be the most worthy if one of it's objectives is to start addressing the crap that others have left floating around our planet since rockets became a thing. Another great video Tom, great narration and content. Keep it up!
@@tomduneofficial It's just like watching SciFi come true. One of my older favorite SciFi books is "Sam Gunn: Unlimited" by Ben Bova. In this he talks about starting up a private venture based on clearing up space debris
Really interested to see how RFA does, apparently my open source rocket tracking software might end up being used to help film their maiden launch. Thanks for the great overview on all these upcoming rockets!
@@tomduneofficial probably my proudest accomplishment was spotting IFT-4 engine shutdown from Florida using Flightclub's prediction of the trajectory. th-cam.com/video/acNMoITLei8/w-d-xo.html
I'm super interested in RFA. They're changing the game really. While others are looking for reusability, they're going to make a rocket so cheap it's more affordable to make a new one. It's an interesting approach I believe could hold up. Whether they can keep up with demand is one thing but they do have a good setup tbh
Mahalo for these summaries, Tom! They keep my thoughts straight and my head wrapped around this subject. That said...what in BLAZES were Eumetsat thinking today when they begged off the Ariane 6 launcher, eh? Don't THEY KNOW about how important the EU's efforts in spaceflight are? Looking at all these launchers you've just outlined here, I feel Eumetsat thought, "Nah! We don't need indigenous EU launch capabilities. Let's GIVE this business to the Americans." I may be American NOW, but I'm an English ex-pat, too, and I don't like this decision. There was too much of THAT "let the Americans handle it" vibe in the 1950s and 1960s...and look what happened to the UK aircraft industry! Black Arrow, anyone? Y'know what? Bugger off Eumetsat! I'm not gonna use YOUR bleedin' meteorological products in my...my...whatever the heck it is! (Old man shakes cane at the air as he forgets he lives on the wrong side of the bloody planet.) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Honestly, I enjoy all your reports, Tom! Keep 'em comin'! Aloha!
Aloha Jim! Glad to be of service! I don't think I could be more confused by that decision 🤦🏻♂️ there will soon be a plethora of options to choose from and yes, I know, most are small sat launchers but even still, to bag off European launchers entirely with A6 getting close to maiden flight is just baffling
@@tomduneofficial Eumetsat is an "intergovernmental organisation" which I assume is there to benefit the European citizen. With this decision, are Eumetsat saying that European solutions are too expensive? Well...okay...but... Saving a European taxpayer some short-term money is NOT the same as enhancing the life of a European citizen. The UK and the rest of Europe is full of people who have dreams. They want an industry and jobs that INSPIRE them to get out of bed every weekday and chuck themselves on and off trains and buses to get to work that has meaning to them. What happened to all the guff about the glories of socialist labour? Where did all the talk I heard about in the '60s and '70s go? Oops...I recall now... The '80s... Sorry... I still think Eumetsat needs to have the riot act read to it by the EU Parliament. Let's you and I hope that this affair is NOT over! Aloha.
Cheers! Lol, yes, Aeschbacher's statement d r i p p e d and o o z e d outrage, I could feel it in America. Thing is though, remember, the Member States themselves personally so to speak made this decision. Blame France. Blame Germany, Italy Spain, all villains and traitors To Europa.... :) Sure they just finished solemnly swearing by all they hold holy, as the case may be, they were Solidly and Fraternally Eternally United [Against the Fucking Americans].. "Send EuroSats on EuroRockets!", they chorused, "Am Ende Steht Der Sieg!" Joe should have remembered, the more tenuous a deal is, the more solemnly the Euro gang announce it. This is not lying or hypocrisy, this is European politeness and class, I am sure you will agree. Since saying "no" is blunt, rude, and so common, one says "YES, we Shall do it, we shall be great, .." So basically doing everything except actually doing it. Smiles, no hard feelings, self-imposed life or death deadlines turn out to be, well, self-imposed, um, made up,, look! Over there! Now we are Doing That. We Shall Do it..." And so forth. Very civilized really. Like English humor, Spanish livestock games, or Scottish foods. Anyway, it's fine. It's all fine. These Sats are ECO SATS, political priority higher than judgment day. How else will people know they are dying? And what Eurocrat would risk being Labeled the Slayer of All Mother Gaia for referencing in passing that silly old promise not to, you know, use SpaceX? Might as well censored. So Ecoism made them swallow their pride/dislike for one launch. They need to launch into Geo, which requires 4 SRBs, not just two, and figured who knows how long That certification will take, sure not happening before 2026. And there are all these elections with possible re-prioritizations coming up... Really, no one will talk about it in a year, but it passes for quite the ironic story now. Besides looks like space is going gangbusters in the UK. Won't be long before you can take a Black Arrow Line ship from Maui to London [offshore] in 50 minutes. And the exhaust "pollution" will be purest water mist. Aloha!
I am confused. I both agree and disagree. On the one hand I want to see European Space grow but on the other hand frankly I think Arianespace is really short sighted. Ariane 6 is not a rocket for the future. It's barely a rocket for today. And how did we end up with Europe getting to the place where we have NO ability to launch but they ended the current rocket. Just can't see the sense in that. I am thrilled to see Ariane 6 almost on the launch pad, but I wish that was at least 5 years ago. We have zero to come anywhere even slightly close to the Falcon 9. Now, I realise that outside of China there is nobody else coming close to anything SpaceX are doing so really we are comparing the entire world against one company. It makes me sad. Nobody else has that ambition, but then I say that as an armchair viewer... I know my place.
Thanks Tom, what an informative run down of launchers heading for UK soil. I like how each company is seeking their own niche, but mass to orbit is the key output that matters IMO so it's the RFA One that edges it for me.
What a great episode! Thanks, Tom! You are the one I can count on to keep me posted about this part of the rocket world. Your perspective is great, and you were in place before Scotland got big. It all sounds super exciting. Can't wait to start seeing launch streams by you. 3:40 *ecosene* I can't help thinking that using a fuel or oxidizer for 'green' reasons means using a poor engine in performance terms. Also making a propellant out of pollution sounds very energy intensive. How many pounds of oil, gas or coal go into the air for each pound of ecosene made, i.e. how much energy do the machines making the propellant and its precursors require? Is making methane from the CO2 in the air and O2 also from the air as propellants less energy expensive? Granted that requires cryo engineering but still. That brings up a bigger question I have. Why does Europe seem to spend half its time, money and anxiety on ecological minutiae? A couple rockets a year could not physically have a discernable impact on the planetary ecology, and any local effects would be gone within a year. Wouldn't it make more sense to get people to space first and worry about pollution once there are lots of rockets actually generating any? I mean Europe really wants to have its own space program. Can't it just exempt its space program from the Euro cultural control thing like an economic free zone? I mean what difference does it make what Scotland, let alone just a few rockets, does compared to India, China and Russia for example? It's the same air. Just curious and no offense. I know for a lot of people this is a sacred belief or religious thing. 10:08 You see, the Germans like Keralox. :) So which nose cones does RFA think it will be traveling in for rideshares? Were those F-9 and Starship noses? I have not heard anything about an Arienne or other rideshare. So if RFA is making tugs for American rideshares, won't that mean Europe launching on SpaceX again? [speaking of which, did you hear Eumetsat just bought a major ride from SpaceX and Joe Assbasher from ESA is flipping out? lol] Great pictures. I like all the rockets, they look cool, I'm glad they are thinking outside the Old Space box and I wish them all speedily to orbit. Thanks again, Tom. 🌍 🚀 🛸 🪐 🌌 🤖 👽 🥰
Thanks so much Eri! I feel I should do a whole video on ecosene, maybe once I talk to folks in the company. Yeah it's a toss up between doing space first then building in the eco side (like RFA) or going eco from the start. The UK has some pretty stringent pollution laws for companies so I imagine they want to fit in line with that, plus being 'green' will net them more government subsidies as it fits in with their policies. So with RFA, it was their nosecones. They have a few different options for fairings as the larger variants may be used to launch the Argo capsule down the line. The Eumetsat farce is just...I don't even know what to say on that decision. Maybe one to go into, try to dissect and then report back on as I'm totally baffled by that decision. Thanks so much for sticking with the channel!
@@tomduneofficial Hey. Notifications turned off, and i was logging in on a dif name. I thought You had taken a break :) On trying to get to space while keeping green, Ii's just "space is hard" so I would not want any unnecessary constraints on top of the already hard and expensive goal of getting usable tonnage to LEO. As for pols, long term best thing we can do for Earth is to get 90% of the population choosing to live off Earth. With all the running around about why global average temperature isn't rising, you'd think spending 1% of 1% of all the eco costs on building a safety valve for the population would make sense. Yes, I sure am curious whether the ecosene is a NET eco benefit, and what the actual cost to performance and budget is. Not that we find out like with biofuels that the cost of tractors, trucks and fertilizers takes way more energy to produce it than it provides when burned, and creates more pollution. Lol, I guess the name seems a bit too propaganda :) Well, Berger gave the probable reasons for Eumetsat: Both the "Eurosats on Eurorockets!" and the Must-Have NOW Green Sats are political issues, but if they don't get the green sats going now, the incoming governments are sure to nix them. Remember, it was the Member States themselves that made this decision. Blame France and Germany! :) Also, this Eu sat will require 4 SRBs, not 2, and Arienne is not certified for 4 yet. So who knows how long that will take. And yes, the timing is horrible for Arienne's corps but it probably took a while to ram this decision by Eumetsat thru. Also the Euro election probably scared the shit out of the people needing those sats to generate usable information. In any case, seems like a done deal. Well, it wasn't the first time and no one is regretting the previous SpaceX launches. Looking forward to all you produce!
In any case, everyone agrees that Eumetsat pulled a real nasty on the big A debut. Or as Berger put it: "It seems likely that Eumetsat officials had concerns that the timeline for this launch would drag out and perhaps some mission assurance concerns about being the first launch of an Ariane 64 rocket. Whatever their reasons, the European satellite officials have thrown a massive turd into the punchbowl at festivities for the debut of the Ariane 6 rocket."
I like that Skyrora wants to clear up the space junk! But I'm just excited to see RFA do the first launch - that's all I can think about! Then will be so exciting to see how all the others turn out. Fingers crossed! Keep up the good work Tom - amazing content!
Yes! Including bringing Prospero home! RFA are super exciting and can't wait to see it fly. It's great to have similar, yet different options to fly from our wee country, crazy to think about. Thanks so much!
Excellent video as usual. No I am not just copying an pasting my last comments... promise 🙂. Really exciting to see all we've got on the go.... I was ranting further down that we are lacking ambition in Europe, but here we are doing stuff. Need to pick up the pace so that we can show what we have to offer. Just wish there was something bigger... or that next step..... (dreams)
Technology wise I completely agree with you. I want to see the hybrid rocket succeed. I was really impressed by RFA’s build philosophy and business sense tho.
Yeah I really do love RFA, and the others too but I do want to see hybrid tech work, as much as I want to see Scottish rockets launching haggis to space 😁
Wasn't there a vehicle which was supposed to launch from a converted tanker? I cannot remember its name but I thought the company was from the Bristol area.
If UK space coverage - Tom is the best. 👍 Hybrid or not? I guess, depends on the task/launch frequency/... I especially would like to see UK space industry to work on the SBSP projects - even if with non-UK launch vehicles. But UK LVs will be very handy for the tests.
The skylark L actually doesn't use the same engine as the XL, its a much smaller, simpler pressure fed engine, but larger than the LEO engine used for the 3rd stage/tug
Ah then I stand corrected in my research! Thanks Imogen! Although the guidance software, etc are still to ported onto the XL yes? Don't suppose yourself or anyone else there would fancy a chat to update me on a few things?
@@tomduneofficial I left about 2 & a half years ago! so I'm not exactly down with the current state of development. The last project I was involved with was the completion of their engine test facility and the first hotfire tests of the 6T engine.
I saw there was another comment but couldn't read, so was perhaps deleted, but anything you noticed please drop me a message. Info on the L is a little short coming at the moment given it's been nearly 2 years since last flight.
Great video as always. Just had a question though, at 8:18 you mention both XL and Prime use staged combustion engines. I’ve been doing some research and there’s so little info online, how certain are you Prime use staged combustion and not tap-off for example? If there are any links or websites you could point me in the direction of about their propulsion, that would be much appreciated. I’m trying to research and model it over the summer but there is so much I can’t find!! 😅
I will find the source material and send it your way but yes, they have very little info for a lot of their make up, it's taken a lot of digging over the past couple of years and from speaking to them to be able to put anything on screen about the Prime at all
@martinilopez1 You only get so many words but the thumbnail says rockets launching from the UK, not British made and in the video itself I make it clear both RFA and Hyimpulse are German
@martinilopez1 Mate I'm not going to debate a point based on titling when I've been covering these rockets for years but the thumb also says "rockets set to launch from UK". Not one single person who's watched the video has made the assumption that I'm leading anyone into thinking that two of the rockets are made in the UK, nor through my coverage of the development of Saxavord, particularly launch pad Fredo, funded by RFA, or in any video covering RFA itself. It isn't a click bait title, nor any kind of attempt to deceive or sound factually incorrect. It was a matter of word count.... of which there wasn't enough left to say... Rockets that are not necessarily made here but are all launching from here. Jeez man!
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Skyrora has to be the most worthy if one of it's objectives is to start addressing the crap that others have left floating around our planet since rockets became a thing. Another great video Tom, great narration and content. Keep it up!
Thanks so much! Yeah I think they have good options for debris removal ahead of them and would be well worth them ploughing into that from the start
@@tomduneofficial It's just like watching SciFi come true. One of my older favorite SciFi books is "Sam Gunn: Unlimited" by Ben Bova. In this he talks about starting up a private venture based on clearing up space debris
@B0M0A0K I love Ben bova novels!
Really interested to see how RFA does, apparently my open source rocket tracking software might end up being used to help film their maiden launch. Thanks for the great overview on all these upcoming rockets!
Oh that's amazing! Any links to your work? Thank you so much!
@@tomduneofficial probably my proudest accomplishment was spotting IFT-4 engine shutdown from Florida using Flightclub's prediction of the trajectory.
th-cam.com/video/acNMoITLei8/w-d-xo.html
I'm super interested in RFA. They're changing the game really. While others are looking for reusability, they're going to make a rocket so cheap it's more affordable to make a new one. It's an interesting approach I believe could hold up.
Whether they can keep up with demand is one thing but they do have a good setup tbh
Mahalo for these summaries, Tom! They keep my thoughts straight and my head wrapped around this subject.
That said...what in BLAZES were Eumetsat thinking today when they begged off the Ariane 6 launcher, eh?
Don't THEY KNOW about how important the EU's efforts in spaceflight are?
Looking at all these launchers you've just outlined here, I feel Eumetsat thought, "Nah! We don't need indigenous EU launch capabilities. Let's GIVE this business to the Americans."
I may be American NOW, but I'm an English ex-pat, too, and I don't like this decision.
There was too much of THAT "let the Americans handle it" vibe in the 1950s and 1960s...and look what happened to the UK aircraft industry! Black Arrow, anyone?
Y'know what? Bugger off Eumetsat! I'm not gonna use YOUR bleedin' meteorological products in my...my...whatever the heck it is! (Old man shakes cane at the air as he forgets he lives on the wrong side of the bloody planet.) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, I enjoy all your reports, Tom! Keep 'em comin'! Aloha!
Aloha Jim! Glad to be of service!
I don't think I could be more confused by that decision 🤦🏻♂️ there will soon be a plethora of options to choose from and yes, I know, most are small sat launchers but even still, to bag off European launchers entirely with A6 getting close to maiden flight is just baffling
@@tomduneofficial Eumetsat is an "intergovernmental organisation" which I assume is there to benefit the European citizen.
With this decision, are Eumetsat saying that European solutions are too expensive? Well...okay...but...
Saving a European taxpayer some short-term money is NOT the same as enhancing the life of a European citizen.
The UK and the rest of Europe is full of people who have dreams. They want an industry and jobs that INSPIRE them to get out of bed every weekday and chuck themselves on and off trains and buses to get to work that has meaning to them.
What happened to all the guff about the glories of socialist labour? Where did all the talk I heard about in the '60s and '70s go?
Oops...I recall now...
The '80s... Sorry...
I still think Eumetsat needs to have the riot act read to it by the EU Parliament.
Let's you and I hope that this affair is NOT over! Aloha.
Cheers! Lol, yes, Aeschbacher's statement d r i p p e d and o o z e d outrage, I could feel it in America. Thing is though, remember, the Member States themselves personally so to speak made this decision. Blame France. Blame Germany, Italy Spain, all villains and traitors To Europa.... :) Sure they just finished solemnly swearing by all they hold holy, as the case may be, they were Solidly and Fraternally Eternally United [Against the Fucking Americans].. "Send EuroSats on EuroRockets!", they chorused, "Am Ende Steht Der Sieg!" Joe should have remembered, the more tenuous a deal is, the more solemnly the Euro gang announce it. This is not lying or hypocrisy, this is European politeness and class, I am sure you will agree. Since saying "no" is blunt, rude, and so common, one says "YES, we Shall do it, we shall be great, .." So basically doing everything except actually doing it. Smiles, no hard feelings, self-imposed life or death deadlines turn out to be, well, self-imposed, um, made up,, look! Over there! Now we are Doing That. We Shall Do it..." And so forth. Very civilized really. Like English humor, Spanish livestock games, or Scottish foods.
Anyway, it's fine. It's all fine. These Sats are ECO SATS, political priority higher than judgment day. How else will people know they are dying? And what Eurocrat would risk being Labeled the Slayer of All Mother Gaia for referencing in passing that silly old promise not to, you know, use SpaceX? Might as well censored. So Ecoism made them swallow their pride/dislike for one launch. They need to launch into Geo, which requires 4 SRBs, not just two, and figured who knows how long That certification will take, sure not happening before 2026. And there are all these elections with possible re-prioritizations coming up... Really, no one will talk about it in a year, but it passes for quite the ironic story now. Besides looks like space is going gangbusters in the UK. Won't be long before you can take a Black Arrow Line ship from Maui to London [offshore] in 50 minutes. And the exhaust "pollution" will be purest water mist. Aloha!
@jimcabezola3051 yeah we need the European sector to come together and not repeat the failings of decades ago. Fingers crossed
I am confused. I both agree and disagree. On the one hand I want to see European Space grow but on the other hand frankly I think Arianespace is really short sighted. Ariane 6 is not a rocket for the future. It's barely a rocket for today. And how did we end up with Europe getting to the place where we have NO ability to launch but they ended the current rocket. Just can't see the sense in that. I am thrilled to see Ariane 6 almost on the launch pad, but I wish that was at least 5 years ago. We have zero to come anywhere even slightly close to the Falcon 9. Now, I realise that outside of China there is nobody else coming close to anything SpaceX are doing so really we are comparing the entire world against one company. It makes me sad. Nobody else has that ambition, but then I say that as an armchair viewer... I know my place.
Thanks Tom, what an informative run down of launchers heading for UK soil.
I like how each company is seeking their own niche, but mass to orbit is the key output that matters IMO so it's the RFA One that edges it for me.
Thanks Ross. Good selling points for each one for sure and I do love RFA. It was actually hard to choose one to edge out!
Quite detailed, thanks.
You're very welcome, thanks for watching!
What a great episode! Thanks, Tom! You are the one I can count on to keep me posted about this part of the rocket world. Your perspective is great, and you were in place before Scotland got big. It all sounds super exciting. Can't wait to start seeing launch streams by you.
3:40 *ecosene* I can't help thinking that using a fuel or oxidizer for 'green' reasons means using a poor engine in performance terms. Also making a propellant out of pollution sounds very energy intensive. How many pounds of oil, gas or coal go into the air for each pound of ecosene made, i.e. how much energy do the machines making the propellant and its precursors require? Is making methane from the CO2 in the air and O2 also from the air as propellants less energy expensive? Granted that requires cryo engineering but still.
That brings up a bigger question I have. Why does Europe seem to spend half its time, money and anxiety on ecological minutiae? A couple rockets a year could not physically have a discernable impact on the planetary ecology, and any local effects would be gone within a year. Wouldn't it make more sense to get people to space first and worry about pollution once there are lots of rockets actually generating any? I mean Europe really wants to have its own space program. Can't it just exempt its space program from the Euro cultural control thing like an economic free zone? I mean what difference does it make what Scotland, let alone just a few rockets, does compared to India, China and Russia for example? It's the same air. Just curious and no offense. I know for a lot of people this is a sacred belief or religious thing.
10:08 You see, the Germans like Keralox. :) So which nose cones does RFA think it will be traveling in for rideshares? Were those F-9 and Starship noses? I have not heard anything about an Arienne or other rideshare. So if RFA is making tugs for American rideshares, won't that mean Europe launching on SpaceX again? [speaking of which, did you hear Eumetsat just bought a major ride from SpaceX and Joe Assbasher from ESA is flipping out? lol]
Great pictures. I like all the rockets, they look cool, I'm glad they are thinking outside the Old Space box and I wish them all speedily to orbit. Thanks again, Tom.
🌍 🚀 🛸 🪐 🌌 🤖 👽 🥰
Thanks so much Eri!
I feel I should do a whole video on ecosene, maybe once I talk to folks in the company. Yeah it's a toss up between doing space first then building in the eco side (like RFA) or going eco from the start. The UK has some pretty stringent pollution laws for companies so I imagine they want to fit in line with that, plus being 'green' will net them more government subsidies as it fits in with their policies.
So with RFA, it was their nosecones. They have a few different options for fairings as the larger variants may be used to launch the Argo capsule down the line.
The Eumetsat farce is just...I don't even know what to say on that decision. Maybe one to go into, try to dissect and then report back on as I'm totally baffled by that decision.
Thanks so much for sticking with the channel!
@@tomduneofficial Hey. Notifications turned off, and i was logging in on a dif name. I thought You had taken a break :) On trying to get to space while keeping green, Ii's just "space is hard" so I would not want any unnecessary constraints on top of the already hard and expensive goal of getting usable tonnage to LEO. As for pols, long term best thing we can do for Earth is to get 90% of the population choosing to live off Earth. With all the running around about why global average temperature isn't rising, you'd think spending 1% of 1% of all the eco costs on building a safety valve for the population would make sense.
Yes, I sure am curious whether the ecosene is a NET eco benefit, and what the actual cost to performance and budget is. Not that we find out like with biofuels that the cost of tractors, trucks and fertilizers takes way more energy to produce it than it provides when burned, and creates more pollution. Lol, I guess the name seems a bit too propaganda :)
Well, Berger gave the probable reasons for Eumetsat: Both the "Eurosats on Eurorockets!" and the Must-Have NOW Green Sats are political issues, but if they don't get the green sats going now, the incoming governments are sure to nix them. Remember, it was the Member States themselves that made this decision. Blame France and Germany! :) Also, this Eu sat will require 4 SRBs, not 2, and Arienne is not certified for 4 yet. So who knows how long that will take. And yes, the timing is horrible for Arienne's corps but it probably took a while to ram this decision by Eumetsat thru. Also the Euro election probably scared the shit out of the people needing those sats to generate usable information. In any case, seems like a done deal. Well, it wasn't the first time and no one is regretting the previous SpaceX launches.
Looking forward to all you produce!
In any case, everyone agrees that Eumetsat pulled a real nasty on the big A debut. Or as Berger put it: "It seems likely that Eumetsat officials had concerns that the timeline for this launch would drag out and perhaps some mission assurance concerns about being the first launch of an Ariane 64 rocket. Whatever their reasons, the European satellite officials have thrown a massive turd into the punchbowl at festivities for the debut of the Ariane 6 rocket."
I like that Skyrora wants to clear up the space junk! But I'm just excited to see RFA do the first launch - that's all I can think about! Then will be so exciting to see how all the others turn out. Fingers crossed! Keep up the good work Tom - amazing content!
Yes! Including bringing Prospero home! RFA are super exciting and can't wait to see it fly. It's great to have similar, yet different options to fly from our wee country, crazy to think about. Thanks so much!
I'm completely objective and not at all biased when I say Skyrora for the win :)
Hey Khurram! Yeah I figured you guys may be a tad biased 😉
@@tomduneofficial 😉
Oh,. and thanks for the super simple explanation of Staged Combustion. I needed that! Really. Thank you.
Glad to be of service Gav!
Excellent video as usual. No I am not just copying an pasting my last comments... promise 🙂. Really exciting to see all we've got on the go.... I was ranting further down that we are lacking ambition in Europe, but here we are doing stuff. Need to pick up the pace so that we can show what we have to offer. Just wish there was something bigger... or that next step..... (dreams)
Technology wise I completely agree with you. I want to see the hybrid rocket succeed. I was really impressed by RFA’s build philosophy and business sense tho.
Yeah I really do love RFA, and the others too but I do want to see hybrid tech work, as much as I want to see Scottish rockets launching haggis to space 😁
Wasn't there a vehicle which was supposed to launch from a converted tanker? I cannot remember its name but I thought the company was from the Bristol area.
Black Arrow Technologies from Wales. There's some info I can't disclose yet but yes, they have grand plans
@@tomduneofficial Awesome, I'm glad that I didn't imagine it .. and there is news to come!
If UK space coverage - Tom is the best. 👍
Hybrid or not? I guess, depends on the task/launch frequency/...
I especially would like to see UK space industry to work on the SBSP projects - even if with non-UK launch vehicles. But UK LVs will be very handy for the tests.
Thanks very much!
I'd like to see UK involved in a whole lot more, hopefully once Saxavord is up and running it can be the spark the industry needs
The skylark L actually doesn't use the same engine as the XL, its a much smaller, simpler pressure fed engine, but larger than the LEO engine used for the 3rd stage/tug
Ah then I stand corrected in my research! Thanks Imogen! Although the guidance software, etc are still to ported onto the XL yes? Don't suppose yourself or anyone else there would fancy a chat to update me on a few things?
@@tomduneofficial I left about 2 & a half years ago! so I'm not exactly down with the current state of development. The last project I was involved with was the completion of their engine test facility and the first hotfire tests of the 6T engine.
I saw there was another comment but couldn't read, so was perhaps deleted, but anything you noticed please drop me a message. Info on the L is a little short coming at the moment given it's been nearly 2 years since last flight.
Great video as always. Just had a question though, at 8:18 you mention both XL and Prime use staged combustion engines. I’ve been doing some research and there’s so little info online, how certain are you Prime use staged combustion and not tap-off for example? If there are any links or websites you could point me in the direction of about their propulsion, that would be much appreciated. I’m trying to research and model it over the summer but there is so much I can’t find!! 😅
I will find the source material and send it your way but yes, they have very little info for a lot of their make up, it's taken a lot of digging over the past couple of years and from speaking to them to be able to put anything on screen about the Prime at all
@@tomduneofficial ok, thank you so much. I hope they release more publicly coon because it’s such a neat vehicle!
Uk? Rockets? What year is this?
Maiaspace reusable Metalox launch 2025 ;)
Looking forward to it
RFA is GERMAN!
YOU ARE CORRECT. Why the point when I have blatantly made this clear many many times over the years?
@@tomduneofficial but not in the title of this video.
@martinilopez1 You only get so many words but the thumbnail says rockets launching from the UK, not British made and in the video itself I make it clear both RFA and Hyimpulse are German
@@tomduneofficial dudee!!!!! "BRITAIN'S UPCOMING rockets"
@martinilopez1 Mate I'm not going to debate a point based on titling when I've been covering these rockets for years but the thumb also says "rockets set to launch from UK". Not one single person who's watched the video has made the assumption that I'm leading anyone into thinking that two of the rockets are made in the UK, nor through my coverage of the development of Saxavord, particularly launch pad Fredo, funded by RFA, or in any video covering RFA itself. It isn't a click bait title, nor any kind of attempt to deceive or sound factually incorrect. It was a matter of word count.... of which there wasn't enough left to say... Rockets that are not necessarily made here but are all launching from here. Jeez man!