Jon, this was one of my favorite videos you've made. I hope you continue to do more of these such as proper foot position when riding ramps, how to properly slide out of a ramp, etc. Keep up the great work!
Wow. I just realized how many ours I have spent on watching you skate and, apart from that being a debatable life choice 😳, I can safely say it's amazing how much beter your skating looks after these tweaks. And you were already quite a bit of an inspiration to begin with!
Cheers dude!! Yeah, I wish I got lessons from Greg at the start, but his School wasn’t open. It seems the idea of Skateboard lessons has become more accepted in recent years. I certainly couldn’t find any coaches in my area 3 years ago when I started?!
I had an hour beginners lesson yesterday with Greg and he had me dropping in off a kerb to slope and doing really good kickturns - just great to have someone to hold on to and advise! Soft legs !!! Getting a proper board this week!
Dude I absolutely need to find a mini ramp with that kind of flat bottom. You have so much time to get ready and set up you make everything look so legit dude it's awesome thanks for making content I enjoy it
Love your videos Jon, your enthusiasm is infectious. Style doesn't get considered nearly enough with new (older) skaters these days. Bringing it up at a session doesn't do you any favours with popularity either but, it matters! We (the middle aged men who never stopped skating since pre-teens) wore vhs tapes out watching pro's and trying to emulate them (in every way, as kids do) and that just doesn't happen now. A skate school with an ex-pro is useful no doubt but just as important is a healthy diet of youtube skate vids. I'm biased because it was my era but I'd recommend going back to the old bones and santa cruz vids now widely available on yt and watching them regularly. I mean really watching them, not like the way we swipe through hours of insta feed videos barley taking it in. Soak in the style and form by osmosis. A big trick-bag is cool and all, but a 'basic' trick done with style wins every time. Looking forward to your next upload Jon, rock on dude.
Many thanks for the input dude! Yeah love all those vids, I think watching Dog Town and Z Boys was one of the main reasons I started skating and one of the key considerations for those dudes was style. I had no idea how to work on it, without it being awkward and contrived, but the idea of learning better technique has helped me to relax and I recon that being relaxed looks much better generally? Gonna go and have another closer look at the form on those old vids !!
@@JonBishopSkate you hit the nail on the head Jon, it is contrived, but here's the thing - when you're a nipper / teen it's ok and accepted and almost expected to try look cool when doing something as style influenced as skating or surfing. As british adults it's very much outside the comfort zone acting that way but screw it, you're brave enough to pick up a board and get stuck in so you might as well look good doing it! All the good skaters look effortless when they roll, no matter how hard or easy the trick, and that deceives the viewer but its exactly what you're talking about when you say that being relaxed looks much better. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing bud, it's awesome.
Loving these vids John! I'm an older guy getting through the first six months of skating so really relating to the journey and picking up loads from your channel, thank you! This one really hit the spot though. I wont get to do every trick in skateboarding but feeling the style in a few and getting in that flo state is the goal. Keep on pushing brother!
Hey Jon, thank you so much for uploading these videos! This one right here especially helped me overthink my miniramp riding-habits and improve myself! Keep it up!
just wanna say, thank you for your videos!! i started skateing again at age 28 (this summer) and i wanted to learn miniramp and try skating a bowl. I really like how you show common fears of doing just regular thinks as drop in and kicksturn (most other chanels basicly say just turn and wing your shoulders) many cheers from sweden!! hope you having a great summer!
I always take a bit of time with foot placement when dropping in. It really bugs me that I look like it's my first time, every time, Ive been at it for a few years now. I'll work on it tomorrow. As always, you're an inspiration Jon. Thanks. Ps. For what it's worth, I've not met anyone our age that likes the way they look skating.
Hi I skated with you at prevalence on the mini a few moths ago and just stumbled across your challel by axident thanks for helping me up when I fell back wards doing a blunt on the mini ramp :)
Great video and I love that you re-visit the basics! My drop in is also not very good so I'm in the process of improving it right now. I'm watching how the vert skaters do it, since I want to be able to drop in on higher and steeper ramps without killing myself. One thing I notice that the vert skaters do is bending the legs a lot and letting the butt drop down really low. But also folding their upper body forwards more so that the chest almost touches the knees :-O Another thing I have noticed them doing is starting with the front foot rotated 45 degrees - as you did in your video - and then rotate the hip and butt out and "into the ramp". This rotation also rotates the front foot so that it points toeside instead of 45 degrees towards the nose. Sounds good and easy in theory, but I haven't tested it in the skatepark yet :)
great video! thanks for the pointers, i'm a few months behind you skill-wise, and a few years older age-wise... watched the middle section a couple times, and went outside for a quick skate. :: bowing in respect :: Thanks sensei! edit: forgot to mention... doing manuals into rock to fakie instead of slamming rock to fakie was an instant game-changer, massive advice dude. thanks
wow... loads to try.. thanks great info.. i been going 1 year now.. just started putting up my own videos..inspired by your comments about making videos means you have to progress.... . man i hope i can get to where you are in a couple of years time.. .
Cheers dude, yeah I recon having a goal in mind and some sort of incentive definitely aids the progression. I found making the videos provided this, but I’m now finding a coach has the same effect. Greg gives me a list to get together and I like to have ticked as much of it off as I can in time for the next meeting !!
Mate I love this video. I especially like the drop in section because I can relate so much to the preflight checks because that’s me to a T 😂😂 Love it! Keep going mate😃🔥🔥👊🏼
I think we may have opposite problems, when I'm riding ramps I always have my body weight WELL inside it makes for fast slash grinds but that's about it. I feel like my body is at 45 degrees to the deck!
A more flowing relaxed looking style comes with time I think. We can force it a bit which helps get there, but mostly it comes with time and an awareness of it (style). All the things you mention in the video get ironed out the longer you skate. Some people get there quicker, they're the naturals but most of us take a good 5 years or more. Younger people seem better at acquiring style quicker in my opinion, maybe it's something to do with being so self conscious.
I agree dude. I think being super relaxed looks good. Any tension can make for unusual body shapes. As you say that relaxation comes from conference which in turn comes from experience and time on the board ?!!
Great idea to go back and work on your already established tricks , I think we’re all guilty of once learning something sticking with that way forevermore . I have some slightly unconventional ways of doing some stuff such my 5050 cross lock being the total opposite to most people (front foot heel wheel against the coping and back foot toe wheel) which doesn’t help with learning things like 5/0’s , I also thought I was well established with my drop ins until I started on the vert, they are flipping awful on that 🤣 further work definitely required ! Keep up the good work 👊🏼
Style is important as anything in this game! Some riders have a great aggressive style that it would criminal to change. Others are smooth Af and that’s their bag.I wave my arms about too much if I don’t concentrate on not doing it! Looks dumb! I guess we’re all super critical of our own skating. Good vid
Hi, quick question: should the hard ware on your deck be sort of bulging out of the grip? It’s not really pushed out, but if you run your fingers along the grip you can feel the difference of the smoothness.
Many thanks for tuning in! I like to remove the excess grip tape from around the holes so the hardware fits flush. It doesn’t really make any difference to the riding though? You may need to go back and tighten the hardware as the wood compresses. Some people just like to put the hardware straight through the grip, but this will cause the bulging you describe??
Once you are feeling confident in your basics, id consider losing the pads when you are skating on smaller transition like mini ramps. From a style perspective, you’ll always look better without them. Just bust them out when you are trying something new you aren’t sure about yet. Of course this is just my opinion, if you are concerned about your safety then it’s always cooler to be padded up than not skate at all! Very cool video man, you are definitely cleaning things up! Keep shredding!
Cheers dude, yeah, there is some old footage in here to show how I used to do the tricks, no pads on for the main mini ramp footage though? I definitely feel I skate more loose and focused without knee and elbow pads. Do you mean loose the helmet and wrist guards? I always wear a helmet for everything, even flat ground. I’m inspired by Mike V and Andy Anderson and also it’s a deal I made with my wife 😂 I’m now used to weight/balance so it feels wrong/more difficult to skate without it? The wrist guards are also non negotiable due to my job. Don’t mind loosing a bit of skin from the knees and elbows though, that’s all part of it 😂
@@JonBishopSkate, hey brother, i just meant pads in general, helmet and wrist guards included, but having a happy wife is much more important than looking cooler on the board lol. Also If Mike V and andy are your guys then it makes perfect sense anyhow!
@@adamf386 cheers dude, love the input ! Yeah, I’ve got a bold head so I’d have wear some sort of head gear anyway 😂 I know exactly what you mean, just recently I’ve noticed there are spots I can skate to a certain level and be confident of not coming a cropper. I’ve found it’s not only gaining the experience of how to make the trick at that spot, but more importantly how to get out of it, and also knowing when it’s definitely time to bail. I’ve had some weird head bangs when I have least expected it, I’m quite clumsy and you’d be amazed what I’ve managed to do. Fairly recently I went to push off and kicked the back wheel with my pushing foot, I went head first into the bowl and slid down the trannie on my head 😂
Awesome approach, going back to the basics and over think them. As usual, realy love your enthusiasm and your style realy did improved already 👍. Out of curiousity and since im a middle-aged guy myself, will you ever hit the big ramp? A drop in on vert is on my bucketlist still 🤔😅. Tried it 3 times, 30 years ago, slammed and never tried it again. But it's excites me to try it again 😂🙋♂️
What i always noticed with your style is, that your shoulders/upper body do not lead. You ever noticed when people who just start out are learning a kick turn or carving round a corner? I think your style would benefit a lot if your shoulders / upper body would really lead the movements. You can see it in your axle stalls particularly well i think, the legs/hips always go into the movement first and your upper body follows. Of course the shoulder leading is more comittal, putting all the weight in the trick - the way you do it, it's easier to jump off if something goes wrong.
Economy of motion... What a game changer. Please keep making detailed tutorials, this is very helpful.
Jon, this was one of my favorite videos you've made. I hope you continue to do more of these such as proper foot position when riding ramps, how to properly slide out of a ramp, etc.
Keep up the great work!
Many thanks for tuning in dude!
Wow. I just realized how many ours I have spent on watching you skate and, apart from that being a debatable life choice 😳, I can safely say it's amazing how much beter your skating looks after these tweaks. And you were already quite a bit of an inspiration to begin with!
Cheers dude!! Yeah, I wish I got lessons from Greg at the start, but his School wasn’t open. It seems the idea of Skateboard lessons has become more accepted in recent years. I certainly couldn’t find any coaches in my area 3 years ago when I started?!
Bro I absolutely love that
Ramp size.
Can you give me the dimensions for it all please
Hey dude
I’m sorry I have no idea?
I’d say about 4.5 ft tall with 5.5 extensions??
These tips are awesome. Better to master a few tricks than have a bunch of sloppy ones!
I had an hour beginners lesson yesterday with Greg and he had me dropping in off a kerb to slope and doing really good kickturns - just great to have someone to hold on to and advise! Soft legs !!! Getting a proper board this week!
Yeah, Greg is the man !!
Dude I absolutely need to find a mini ramp with that kind of flat bottom. You have so much time to get ready and set up you make everything look so legit dude it's awesome thanks for making content I enjoy it
Many thanks for checking in dude.
This video is gold. It's exactly what I was looking for
I like learning British English here as well!
Glad you are doing some more of these. Since your garden mini found a new home you've been missed out here in the skate interwebs. 💯🛹❤️
Yeah dude, I’m still plugging away 😂 the mini ramp in this vid is great fun !!
Staplegrove mini 👌👌…..my local mini ramp👊👊…..clips at ‘Beaminster too👊👊👌👌
Loads of fun to be had over your neck of the woods dude !!
Love your videos Jon, your enthusiasm is infectious. Style doesn't get considered nearly enough with new (older) skaters these days. Bringing it up at a session doesn't do you any favours with popularity either but, it matters! We (the middle aged men who never stopped skating since pre-teens) wore vhs tapes out watching pro's and trying to emulate them (in every way, as kids do) and that just doesn't happen now. A skate school with an ex-pro is useful no doubt but just as important is a healthy diet of youtube skate vids. I'm biased because it was my era but I'd recommend going back to the old bones and santa cruz vids now widely available on yt and watching them regularly. I mean really watching them, not like the way we swipe through hours of insta feed videos barley taking it in. Soak in the style and form by osmosis. A big trick-bag is cool and all, but a 'basic' trick done with style wins every time. Looking forward to your next upload Jon, rock on dude.
Many thanks for the input dude!
Yeah love all those vids, I think watching Dog Town and Z Boys was one of the main reasons I started skating and one of the key considerations for those dudes was style. I had no idea how to work on it, without it being awkward and contrived, but the idea of learning better technique has helped me to relax and I recon that being relaxed looks much better generally? Gonna go and have another closer look at the form on those old vids !!
@@JonBishopSkate you hit the nail on the head Jon, it is contrived, but here's the thing - when you're a nipper / teen it's ok and accepted and almost expected to try look cool when doing something as style influenced as skating or surfing. As british adults it's very much outside the comfort zone acting that way but screw it, you're brave enough to pick up a board and get stuck in so you might as well look good doing it! All the good skaters look effortless when they roll, no matter how hard or easy the trick, and that deceives the viewer but its exactly what you're talking about when you say that being relaxed looks much better. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing bud, it's awesome.
Loving these vids John! I'm an older guy getting through the first six months of skating so really relating to the journey and picking up loads from your channel, thank you! This one really hit the spot though. I wont get to do every trick in skateboarding but feeling the style in a few and getting in that flo state is the goal. Keep on pushing brother!
Many thanks for checking in dude!!
Outstanding advice that I cannot thank you enough for sharing. Much appreciated!
Many thanks for tuning in!
Great video Jon, thanks for sharing your experience.
Hey Jon, thank you so much for uploading these videos! This one right here especially helped me overthink my miniramp riding-habits and improve myself! Keep it up!
Many thanks for tuning in !
just wanna say, thank you for your videos!! i started skateing again at age 28 (this summer) and i wanted to learn miniramp and try skating a bowl. I really like how you show common fears of doing just regular thinks as drop in and kicksturn (most other chanels basicly say just turn and wing your shoulders) many cheers from sweden!! hope you having a great summer!
Many thanks for tuning in dude!!
I always take a bit of time with foot placement when dropping in. It really bugs me that I look like it's my first time, every time, Ive been at it for a few years now. I'll work on it tomorrow. As always, you're an inspiration Jon. Thanks. Ps. For what it's worth, I've not met anyone our age that likes the way they look skating.
Yeah dude, it’s a constant area I’m mindful of improving. I let myself slip back into bad habits so need to remain disciplined !
Very interesting tips! Thank you!
Hi I skated with you at prevalence on the mini a few moths ago and just stumbled across your challel by axident thanks for helping me up when I fell back wards doing a blunt on the mini ramp :)
Nice one dude!!
great vid! 🔥
Another great video with some interesting insights. Thanks dude , keep them coming.
Great tips & insight Jon!
That's the perfect miniramp
Nice different direction. Mini ramp is my second favourite after street.
Great video as always Jon
Great video and I love that you re-visit the basics! My drop in is also not very good so I'm in the process of improving it right now. I'm watching how the vert skaters do it, since I want to be able to drop in on higher and steeper ramps without killing myself. One thing I notice that the vert skaters do is bending the legs a lot and letting the butt drop down really low. But also folding their upper body forwards more so that the chest almost touches the knees :-O Another thing I have noticed them doing is starting with the front foot rotated 45 degrees - as you did in your video - and then rotate the hip and butt out and "into the ramp". This rotation also rotates the front foot so that it points toeside instead of 45 degrees towards the nose. Sounds good and easy in theory, but I haven't tested it in the skatepark yet :)
Yeah dude, I noticed the toe on tail facing forwards method watching Tony Hawk clips, Greg was the first guy I saw do it in ‘real life’
great video! thanks for the pointers, i'm a few months behind you skill-wise, and a few years older age-wise... watched the middle section a couple times, and went outside for a quick skate. :: bowing in respect :: Thanks sensei!
edit: forgot to mention... doing manuals into rock to fakie instead of slamming rock to fakie was an instant game-changer, massive advice dude. thanks
Nice one, Yeah, these were all coach Greg’s tips, his input has made a huge difference !
wow... loads to try.. thanks great info.. i been going 1 year now.. just started putting up my own videos..inspired by your comments about making videos means you have to progress.... . man i hope i can get to where you are in a couple of years time.. .
Cheers dude, yeah I recon having a goal in mind and some sort of incentive definitely aids the progression. I found making the videos provided this, but I’m now finding a coach has the same effect. Greg gives me a list to get together and I like to have ticked as much of it off as I can in time for the next meeting !!
great vid
Mate I love this video. I especially like the drop in section because I can relate so much to the preflight checks because that’s me to a T 😂😂 Love it! Keep going mate😃🔥🔥👊🏼
Many thanks for tuning in!
I think we may have opposite problems, when I'm riding ramps I always have my body weight WELL inside it makes for fast slash grinds but that's about it. I feel like my body is at 45 degrees to the deck!
A more flowing relaxed looking style comes with time I think. We can force it a bit which helps get there, but mostly it comes with time and an awareness of it (style). All the things you mention in the video get ironed out the longer you skate. Some people get there quicker, they're the naturals but most of us take a good 5 years or more. Younger people seem better at acquiring style quicker in my opinion, maybe it's something to do with being so self conscious.
I agree dude. I think being super relaxed looks good. Any tension can make for unusual body shapes. As you say that relaxation comes from conference which in turn comes from experience and time on the board ?!!
smoooooth....
Great idea to go back and work on your already established tricks , I think we’re all guilty of once learning something sticking with that way forevermore . I have some slightly unconventional ways of doing some stuff such my 5050 cross lock being the total opposite to most people (front foot heel wheel against the coping and back foot toe wheel) which doesn’t help with learning things like 5/0’s , I also thought I was well established with my drop ins until I started on the vert, they are flipping awful on that 🤣 further work definitely required ! Keep up the good work 👊🏼
Many thanks for tuning in Neil. Yeah, I can’t take credit for the ideas, luckily coach was kind enough furnish me with the tips and the process!
@@JonBishopSkate 👍🏻 Sounds like you got a good deal , he just bully’s me 🤣 (na only joking he’s a good egg ).
Style is important as anything in this game! Some riders have a great aggressive style that it would criminal to change. Others are smooth Af and that’s their bag.I wave my arms about too much if I don’t concentrate on not doing it! Looks dumb! I guess we’re all super critical of our own skating. Good vid
Yeah dude, totally agree !
Just started watching all of your videos, surprised to see you skating Taunton! Have you been to either of the parks In Bridgwater?
Love the Taunton mini ramp!!
Hi, quick question: should the hard ware on your deck be sort of bulging out of the grip? It’s not really pushed out, but if you run your fingers along the grip you can feel the difference of the smoothness.
Many thanks for tuning in! I like to remove the excess grip tape from around the holes so the hardware fits flush. It doesn’t really make any difference to the riding though? You may need to go back and tighten the hardware as the wood compresses. Some people just like to put the hardware straight through the grip, but this will cause the bulging you describe??
How nice is that mini ramp?....you should build one like that Jon👍🛹
🔥🔥🔥🔥
What are the measures of thud mini ramp??
Hi Alan
I felt like the classic 4ft with a 5ft extension job, but I could be wrong?
Once you are feeling confident in your basics, id consider losing the pads when you are skating on smaller transition like mini ramps. From a style perspective, you’ll always look better without them. Just bust them out when you are trying something new you aren’t sure about yet. Of course this is just my opinion, if you are concerned about your safety then it’s always cooler to be padded up than not skate at all! Very cool video man, you are definitely cleaning things up! Keep shredding!
Cheers dude, yeah, there is some old footage in here to show how I used to do the tricks, no pads on for the main mini ramp footage though? I definitely feel I skate more loose and focused without knee and elbow pads. Do you mean loose the helmet and wrist guards? I always wear a helmet for everything, even flat ground. I’m inspired by Mike V and Andy Anderson and also it’s a deal I made with my wife 😂 I’m now used to weight/balance so it feels wrong/more difficult to skate without it? The wrist guards are also non negotiable due to my job. Don’t mind loosing a bit of skin from the knees and elbows though, that’s all part of it 😂
@@JonBishopSkate, hey brother, i just meant pads in general, helmet and wrist guards included, but having a happy wife is much more important than looking cooler on the board lol. Also If Mike V and andy are your guys then it makes perfect sense anyhow!
@@adamf386 cheers dude, love the input ! Yeah, I’ve got a bold head so I’d have wear some sort of head gear anyway 😂 I know exactly what you mean, just recently I’ve noticed there are spots I can skate to a certain level and be confident of not coming a cropper. I’ve found it’s not only gaining the experience of how to make the trick at that spot, but more importantly how to get out of it, and also knowing when it’s definitely time to bail. I’ve had some weird head bangs when I have least expected it, I’m quite clumsy and you’d be amazed what I’ve managed to do. Fairly recently I went to push off and kicked the back wheel with my pushing foot, I went head first into the bowl and slid down the trannie on my head 😂
@@JonBishopSkate, 😂 Gnarly!
I've got a trick u can do go fakie at an angle then shunt to tailslide
Yeah dude, I was trying that the other day believe it or not, my mate showed me and it looked well easy, turned out it wasn’t 😂
@@JonBishopSkate haha I hear ya. u just need to get alot of angle on the approach
Where is Boom Skate School?
Hey dude, Just outside Southampton
@@JonBishopSkate ok mate thank you 👍🏻😃
Nowik = Mini ramp god
Not half !!! When Greg took his warm up run in my first lesson I stood there thinking ‘what’s just happened?’ 😂
@@JonBishopSkate his parts in Andy Evans’ videos are insane….certified killer!
@@RobSymington yeah man, the real deal !!!
Used to skate with Penny, Shipman , Moul etc
Awesome approach, going back to the basics and over think them. As usual, realy love your enthusiasm and your style realy did improved already 👍.
Out of curiousity and since im a middle-aged guy myself, will you ever hit the big ramp? A drop in on vert is on my bucketlist still 🤔😅. Tried it 3 times, 30 years ago, slammed and never tried it again. But it's excites me to try it again 😂🙋♂️
Many thanks for tuning in dude, yeah ‘Stairway To Vert’ is the next video !!
Ok, I’m looking into lessons now lol
A game changer for sure !!
@@JonBishopSkate great content on this one man, those rock to fakie pointers will be on my mind next time I’m on the mini for sure!
What i always noticed with your style is, that your shoulders/upper body do not lead.
You ever noticed when people who just start out are learning a kick turn or carving round a corner?
I think your style would benefit a lot if your shoulders / upper body would really lead the movements.
You can see it in your axle stalls particularly well i think, the legs/hips always go into the movement first and your upper body follows.
Of course the shoulder leading is more comittal, putting all the weight in the trick - the way you do it, it's easier to jump off if something goes wrong.
Hoax skate shop wow I still have a store bag from there and maybe a hoax shirt. Ipswich park is nice 👍
Hoax is the bomb, such nice dudes running the show there !!