I have the first generation m12 . I absolutely love it. It does everything I have asked it to do. Tire rotation, no problem. Brake calipers and brackets, no problem. No big bulky impact needed. No airline needed. I'm amazed people are just now figuring out how great these little guns are. I won't buy the gen 2 unless my gen 1 dies.
@@tomwinslow5086 It can, but there's people who dont use anti-sieze or anything resembling proper TQ values on their lugs. Each stubby has its place, like ANY tool its up to the user to know if theyre using the right tool for the job. My gen 1 does almost everything I need it to, when I need 300lbs or more I simply grab its older bigger brother which rated at 600lbs and has easily broken free EVERYTHING without much fuss.
@@novavolks9652 I've got a Greenworks polesaw and chainsaw and an ECO Weed Wacker that needs a new battery, I'll stick with an ECO for that. Having spent $150 for 2 5ah DeWalt XR batteries, I'm reasonably set, but if the 12v Fuels Milwaukees can deliver, I'm already leaning that way.
@novavolks9652 Yeah, it's a rainbow when you open my toolbox. My only problem with having several different brands of tools, is that you have to have a different charger for each brand.
this tool is a game changer. My old stubby is my most used mechanic tool outsize of the m12 ratchett. This new stubby will 100% replace my old stubby as well as my mid torque. I'll still be keeping my high torque for the rare occasional that i might need it.
How is it a game changer???? Every tool company is going to make a more powerful tool than this and if I know dewalt they already already have a more powerful one than this with a better form factor everyone hates Milwaukee 12v grips the only 12v tool they like is the ratchet
@@loucifer4205Have you ever used an M12 Stubby? I work with both, and I can tell you that before this newer M12, the DCF921 was a bit more powerful. However, it doesn't get into the tight spots I can reach with my M12 Stubby. The Stubby has saved me countless times by allowing me to break it down into a smaller form factor by switching to the Torpedo-style battery. All the power in the world doesn't mean anything if you can't get to a fastener. Unless DeWalt comes out with a Stubby version and Torpedo-style battery with more power than their current 20V system, the M12 will be hard to beat for some time. The only advantage is runtime when it comes to the M18 compact and the DCF921 20V platform. Milwaukee sent me an M18 compact as a replacement under warranty for an older 2754, and it just sits collecting dust. 😂 The only other brand I see with a similar footprint is the Hyper Tough offering from Walmart. If you're only working around fasteners that are easy to get to, then by all means, buy as chunky of an impact as you like. But if you need an all-around tool that can get you out of a jam in some tight spaces, then this new more powerful Stubby is it👍🏻
Thank you for the very straightforward and comprehensive video. Seeing you use it in real time did help to see how quick it works and how light it must feel on your hands. - Quick question, were you using the 3/8 inch or the1/2 inch there on the video? And do you have any suggestions whether one or the other? - I currently only have the M18 high torque, which is pretty heavy. Oh and I also have the M12 right angle impact, but that one I’m sure does not have a lot of nut busting torque (i’ll have to go back and check the specs)
Always among the most comprehensive, real-world tool reviews on TH-cam. After watching your vid and explanation the trigger mode selector seems like it was a good engineering idea. I initially thought it was a cost-cutting measure 👍🏽
I’ve had mine for a little bit now, I love the thing! It is my go to impact. Thing even blows away my M18 compact. I even like the way it switches modes better than the gen 1! I have no cons for this tool!
I'm excited for this because it should be able to remove every single bolt on my car, including the few that the gen1 struggles with like big suspension bolts and crank bolts. I was considering a larger impact to fill those needs but I'm really glad that I don't have to expand to a whole new battery platform to do it, now. Looking forward to seeing some torque test comparisons between the gen1 and gen2
I been meaning to buy the new generation of the M12 stubby impact gun. This said I do own the first-generation gun which only had 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque. I would have to agree with you that the tool needs to be utilize within the parameters it was built to be used within. I like the new change to the torque setting; I think that is quicker and makes things faster in the long run if you are working on either a long project or when time is of the essence in the shop. For those of us who have worked as a flat rate mechanic time is money and speed while utilizing our tools is essential. Thanks for the great info will definitely have to pick this up this upcoming black Friday. Respectfully, SARGE.
@WorkshopAddict I agree. I wasn't a fan of the last stubby version either. I never understood why everyone was so obsessed with it. It underperformed and if you were hitting hard on a bolt while holding it right side up, that battery would pop right out. I'm definitely a buyer of this new version though. For anyone saying the battery never fell out, then why did they add that metal piece to help secure the battery? I've been using the dcf921 and dcf923, but I'm excited to get these guys in my hands. I'm sure dewalt will clap back soon enough. It's a never ending battle, which is why I use both platforms and don't stick to one color or brand.
I would like to know too and am having trouble deciding. I have 1/2 and 3/8 impact sockets, but far more 1/2. I only work on my own vehicles, not professionally. Right now I am leaning towards the 3/8. 12mm-19mm is what I work in the most and the sockets are smaller. Space isn’t usually an issue in larger sizes and the adapter just adds weight. The 5 year warranty makes me not so worried about breaking it too. I’ve removed some 1 1/2” rusted bolts with my 1/4 Ryobi and nothing broke. I think I just convinced myself to get the 3/8.
Seriously considering it. I'm a younger woman but have a condition where my brain is coming out of my skull. Last time I had a flat I was so mad- trying to get the lugs off gave me a massive headache and I had to call someone to change it for me.
@@cityslicker77what’s this condition called that sounds horrible but undoubtedly this or the Dewalt stubby will change your life! They are super fast and that little baby battery it comes with will do you just fine!
@@Queso1526 chiari malformation (of the brain). Symptoms can be all over the place and vary in severity, but in my case I did need surgery to help improve my quality of life a little (did not entirely "fix" things, but for some people it can, and others dont need surgery). I figured out I had it when laughing started to give me bad headaches. My dad got me an m12 driver/drill kit for xmas so yeah maybe another reason to get one of these (with a good battery)
Very cool, it would be interesting to see some tasks that can be done with the stubby that can't be accomplished with a larger tool. I still mostly use a Ridgid mid-torque and have no complaints, but it is much larger and bulkier. That said, I think the M12 stubby (and Surge impact driver) are the only two tools in the Milwaukee lineup that I can't find a comparable version in other platforms in terms of size/weight/compactness.
Pre-Ordered mine already I saw too many videos on comparisons to other brands and this one was finally the one to make me want to pre-order the 3/8 Kit.
Thank you for this great video. Can you please tell me if a 3/8 drive (M12) is good enough for wheel removal? Or would you prefer the 1/2"? So many opinions on either or for and against 3/8. I would appreciate to hear yours. Thank you
It does not matter. I would buy whatever model you have, or plan to buy, impact sockets in. For me, I like 1/2" as I can get 1/2" drive down to 8mm and up to 50mm plus. 3/8" can be harder to get larger sockets in.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you for responding. Regardless of sockets (I'll worry about that later) you don't feel the 3/8 anvil is not robust enough for bolt removal? Wouldn't the 1/2 anvil be more appropriate to take on the torque and spin of a wheel bolt? Comparing the two, looking at them side by side the 3/8 worries me. But I don't have years of continuous experience. I look to you for that as I am not a mechanic but a car enthusiast and have removed my wheels hundreds of times all beit using the iron the car came with. If you say 3/8 is just plain fine then I'll go with it. Thanks again!
As someone who has invested in M12 but not M18, it looks like I'm not going to be investing in making the switch to the big dog m18 stuff quite yet! My old kobalt 24v 1/2" impact is growing long in the tooth, so I may be in for a 1/2" gen 2 stubby in the future.
@@johnlandis5889 luckily I was able to purchase of these through a snap on dealer, and it actually does a fantastic job removing drive line bolts, caging brakes, and all my other needs as a heavy tow operator. The one and only con I have about this second gen stubby is the mode select. Find myself accidentally hitting it into neutral and changing the mode a lot😅. But that’s everyone’s con I feel.
@@Kotixvii yeah good to hear! If I bought one I wouldn't like the mode selector either! I was a roadside mechanic back in the day! I thought it would do well
@@novavolks9652 Ah Is just a means of communicating how many (A)mps can be delivered per (h)our. General rule of thumb, is a higher capacity battery is capable of delivering more current (amps) to the motor. If a tool with a 5Ah battery needs one amp of current, you can run the tool for 5 hours. If the tool needs 5 amps of current, you can run the tool for an hour. It's far more nuanced than more Ah, more better if you will. Different packs could use different cell types, or different configurations to offer different outputs. For example, XC 6.0 and XC High Output 6.0. Same Amp hour rating, different cell type.
@@novavolks9652 nope batteries don't push amps. the tool will draw what it needs. if it cant get all the amps it wants it will run slower. this impact actually runs 100 ft lbs less if not using the high out put batteries. (so 450 ft lbs ish). even with the 6 amp hr regular does 450ft lbs vs the 2.5 amp hr high out put will do the 550ft lbs . Also FYI Amp hour is the batteries capacity so higher the AH the longer battery last not how much power the battery can supply to the tool. it will still supply the same wattage to the tool. the high out put same capacity but battery can handle a faster discharge (can provide more watts (amps) for the tool.)
Make a video showing the old version and the new version and where the old one fails to take off something compared to the new one, i don’t know why nobody has done this yet.
I went for the 1/2" version first and I now have an order in for the 3/8". Partially due to the drive mode change that is in the trigger. Once I got used to it, i want both to be the same.
@@WorkshopAddict For mostly doing lug nuts/car maintenance, would you go for the 1/2" with impacts or 3/8" with impacts? Already have the 1/2" high torque so thinking 3/8
I used to be a chevy lubetech. Those are probably 140 - 150 foot pound. Looks really impressive. I used to remove those every day with air impact or 18v high torque. There is no difference in speed. Impressive
@@nolove5062 I would and would probably recommend the xc 5.0 HO battery. It should have zero issues with anything you run across. That battery should last a good while.
I'm shocked by this upgrade. The current stubby is very impressive I have it. I plan to upgrade to this. So useful it will be. I like the trigger selection
I'm just a guy looking for a small impact to bring with me that can used to change a flat quickly on the side of a road on my truck or trailer. I currently have a full size 18volt Dewalt that is about 6 years old and needs new batteries. I think this would be very nice replacement and compact vs my Dewalt. What's everyone's opinion on getting the 3/8" vs the 1/2"?
I'm late to the game I know, but how do you know what level to put it on when removing a nut or when installing a nut and I'm not talking about lugnuts because those technically going on should be torqued. My main concern is how do I know what setting to put it at so I don't over torque things when doing basic engine repair on your vehicle, motorcycle, SxS, ATV etc?
Does this use 1/2 drive sockets. Only dumb reason why I ask because my milwaukee 3/8 ratchet only uses 1/2 and I did not understand why it being 3/8 it using 1/2 even though i like the idea. Just new at automotive tool buying.
I think people may be overlooking all the extra use and wear on the trigger and the forward & reverse switch just to change modes.. Get rid of this one handed mode switch & bring our button back!!
Have the 1/2 with PIN DETENT on order have a month worth of TESTING to do now MILWAUKEE needs a FORGE BATTERY 2.5 and 5 for there M12 FUEL LINE don't care if it's POUCH CELLS or TABLESS CELLS
I seen someone take off 1 semi lug but it was torque to spec 500 ft lbs but you couldn't use it in real world application because it does not have the juice or battery power and it wouldn't last long tool wise! You'd overheat it! Most truck mechanics over torque them with a 1"" air gun and be done with it. No messing around
Sorry if i missed it but is that 3/8 or 1/2 in the video? Also the highest torqued rims i have are 140 and ill be using it for rims 75% of the time. Would yall suggest the 1/2 or 3/8?
I think in the long run having the double tap neutral feature will be more reliable than a button. The biggest question I have is at 550 ft/lbs for the gen 2 stubby why would someone buy the less powerful compact m18 impact wrench for the same or higher price?
@@WorkshopAddict Weren’t they updated last year or was it the year before? Everything is a blur on the releases. I do see m18 has the torque control one key option.
@@AjMunguia The new model will do great. The older one might not be the best choice. The M18 mid torque would be the most ideal for doing nothing but lugs all day.
i think mines broken cuz it struggles to take off small things. like 19mm ford lugs that are torqued to 100ft lbs but i just watched u do a whole rotate of 140 ft lbs wheels...
Hm if I do eventually buy this (been wanting the old one for a while) idk if I should get 3/8 or 1/2. I have a Dewalt 20v mid torque already but only a few sockets. Picked up a 13 piece impact socket set from HF today for only $6 but they are 1/2
I'd suggest if you were going to do a lot of light truck work such as tires to buy the half inch model but if you were working more on cars too get the 3/8 version. I heard a good mechanic say that the newer models will do 80% of light shop work.
I like the way it changes modes now. One handed. But if someone likes 250 ft/lbs of torque on a 2 handed mode changes, MILWAUKEE still sells the previous gen impact stubby. 😬👍
Yeah, I remember a couple years ago when they said the ir 1inch was the strongest cordless impact they used taking off little bolt but when Jay paid dirt use that same impact wrench it couldn’t keep up with a $280 1inch Air earthquake
So they claimed theirs was the strongest cordless impact and you’re shocked it couldn’t outdo a large air impact. I don’t think anyone with any mechanical knowledge has ever thought an electric impact will beat an air impact. However, if an electric impact can do what you need it sure is nicer than dragging the air out. One must have reasonable expectations
I did everything in this video and I show you the charge. Doing small tasks it will last for a very long time. Pushing it and make it work and the battery will go down much faster.
At the end of the day, it’s the right tool for the right job and not everybody needs the biggest baddest strongest impact on the market to do their jobs and if we can continually make smaller products like this, that will also fit in more areas that’s more important to a lot of people, especially depending on the job they’re needing the tool for
Can you get it with the pin detent anvil? When I upgrade I want to try the pin detent because my only complaint with my old stubby is how many friction rings it eats up from the shear amount of use this tool sees (yes I’m using impact sockets).
I have a 3/8”gen one that I use often and a 1/2” hi torque that I use occasionally. I like the 1/2” Stubby . The neutral speed change Would probably be be easier once I got used to it.
I love my m12 stubby 1/2 it's my everyday tool I use mostly but have a new one that's lightweight and more powerful is a game changer. I will buy asap but don't like the 2 trigger mode switch my guess they love Guns😅
Why do you hit it with a torque wrench? 😅 Could this not tighten enough? So if i were to get the DEWALT 20V MAX Cordless Impact Wrench Kit with 1030 ft-lbs of max fastening torque and 1400 ft-lbs of max, would i still need to hit the lug with a torque wrench as well? 😅 Thanks for taking the time to answer.
@@WorkshopAddictthanks says Sept for Canada i had been using 2554-20 3/8” old version since 2018 summer to take many tires off and on each season, brakes job with xc 4.0. Love it, better sockets from Milwaukee now, i was using Wera shallow sockets and it did excellent job for years
The old m12 stubby 1/2 is my favorite tool in the M12 lineup for weight to performance. After seeing the new one I will be buying it.
Watching you change settings with the trigger really does show how intuitive and seamless of a process it is.
I have the first generation m12 . I absolutely love it. It does everything I have asked it to do. Tire rotation, no problem. Brake calipers and brackets, no problem. No big bulky impact needed. No airline needed. I'm amazed people are just now figuring out how great these little guns are. I won't buy the gen 2 unless my gen 1 dies.
cant take off my lug nuts with gen 1
@kentrosario4301 what are your wheels torqued to? I would think the M12 gen 1 would back off 150 ft lbs without much trouble.
@@tomwinslow5086 It can, but there's people who dont use anti-sieze or anything resembling proper TQ values on their lugs. Each stubby has its place, like ANY tool its up to the user to know if theyre using the right tool for the job. My gen 1 does almost everything I need it to, when I need 300lbs or more I simply grab its older bigger brother which rated at 600lbs and has easily broken free EVERYTHING without much fuss.
What battery do you use and/or rec for your 1st gen?
@nathantran9675 red lithium xc 3.0 usually.
I can’t wait to get one. It’s small size and crazy power will be perfect for 90% of what I do.
Torque test channel explained exactly why the HAD to get rid of the button. The motor is so big they didn't have room to put a button there...
Have 20v Dewalt drill & impact, recently picked up a 12v Milwaukee screwdriver and 12v Fuel Hackzall.
Nice finally having some Milwaukee tools.
It is good to have a variety of tools and not just a specific brand.
@@novavolks9652 I've got a Greenworks polesaw and chainsaw and an ECO Weed Wacker that needs a new battery, I'll stick with an ECO for that. Having spent $150 for 2 5ah DeWalt XR batteries, I'm reasonably set, but if the 12v Fuels Milwaukees can deliver, I'm already leaning that way.
@novavolks9652 Yeah, it's a rainbow when you open my toolbox. My only problem with having several different brands of tools, is that you have to have a different charger for each brand.
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What an amazing comment. Bravo.
The previous model was amazing, and this newer model is out of this world good. Thanks for the video 👍
Pre-ordered! Thanks for the part numbers at the beginning as well!
Crazy so much power in such a small package, nice to change modes one handed
this tool is a game changer. My old stubby is my most used mechanic tool outsize of the m12 ratchett. This new stubby will 100% replace my old stubby as well as my mid torque. I'll still be keeping my high torque for the rare occasional that i might need it.
How is it a game changer???? Every tool company is going to make a more powerful tool than this and if I know dewalt they already already have a more powerful one than this with a better form factor everyone hates Milwaukee 12v grips the only 12v tool they like is the ratchet
@@loucifer4205Have you ever used an M12 Stubby? I work with both, and I can tell you that before this newer M12, the DCF921 was a bit more powerful. However, it doesn't get into the tight spots I can reach with my M12 Stubby. The Stubby has saved me countless times by allowing me to break it down into a smaller form factor by switching to the Torpedo-style battery. All the power in the world doesn't mean anything if you can't get to a fastener. Unless DeWalt comes out with a Stubby version and Torpedo-style battery with more power than their current 20V system, the M12 will be hard to beat for some time. The only advantage is runtime when it comes to the M18 compact and the DCF921 20V platform. Milwaukee sent me an M18 compact as a replacement under warranty for an older 2754, and it just sits collecting dust. 😂 The only other brand I see with a similar footprint is the Hyper Tough offering from Walmart. If you're only working around fasteners that are easy to get to, then by all means, buy as chunky of an impact as you like. But if you need an all-around tool that can get you out of a jam in some tight spaces, then this new more powerful Stubby is it👍🏻
@@loucifer4205 no bot
@@loucifer4205witch one is same size and more powerful ?
Awesome. Love the fact your protecting your hearing too. People don’t until they have too, then it’s too late…..
@johnnyg8391 My gather has hearing issues from his work and it is hard to communicate with him in different places. I never want to get to that point!
I just bought the new M18 stubby 2855 model 1/2" impact. Very light and compact that i can get into tight spaces.
Thank you for the very straightforward and comprehensive video. Seeing you use it in real time did help to see how quick it works and how light it must feel on your hands. -
Quick question, were you using the 3/8 inch or the1/2 inch there on the video? And do you have any suggestions whether one or the other? - I currently only have the M18 high torque, which is pretty heavy. Oh and I also have the M12 right angle impact, but that one I’m sure does not have a lot of nut busting torque (i’ll have to go back and check the specs)
Always among the most comprehensive, real-world tool reviews on TH-cam. After watching your vid and explanation the trigger mode selector seems like it was a good engineering idea. I initially thought it was a cost-cutting measure 👍🏽
if you watch the torque test channel they take it apart and compared to gen 1. the had to move button to make room for the bigger motor,
I’ve had mine for a little bit now, I love the thing! It is my go to impact. Thing even blows away my M18 compact. I even like the way it switches modes better than the gen 1! I have no cons for this tool!
My 3/8" stubby is def my go to....second only to the extended m12 ratchet
Im curious if they will be revamping their mid torque here soon. Excited to see what dewalt answers back with too!!
I suspect this means that the 2854-20 m18 compact will be getting an upgrade in the near future
I'm excited for this because it should be able to remove every single bolt on my car, including the few that the gen1 struggles with like big suspension bolts and crank bolts. I was considering a larger impact to fill those needs but I'm really glad that I don't have to expand to a whole new battery platform to do it, now. Looking forward to seeing some torque test comparisons between the gen1 and gen2
I don't think it will loosen heavy rusted suspension bolts
@@johnlandis5889 not a concern since I don't live in the rustbelt. never seen rust on a car here
WorkshopAddict.. Like I mentioned in your other video I want them both. Can't wait for them to be available.
I been meaning to buy the new generation of the M12 stubby impact gun. This said I do own the first-generation gun which only had 250 ft lbs of nut busting torque. I would have to agree with you that the tool needs to be utilize within the parameters it was built to be used within. I like the new change to the torque setting; I think that is quicker and makes things faster in the long run if you are working on either a long project or when time is of the essence in the shop. For those of us who have worked as a flat rate mechanic time is money and speed while utilizing our tools is essential. Thanks for the great info will definitely have to pick this up this upcoming black Friday.
Respectfully,
SARGE.
Love the M12
I was not a HUGE fan of the first model, but this new model has me 100 percent hooked.
@WorkshopAddict I agree. I wasn't a fan of the last stubby version either. I never understood why everyone was so obsessed with it. It underperformed and if you were hitting hard on a bolt while holding it right side up, that battery would pop right out. I'm definitely a buyer of this new version though. For anyone saying the battery never fell out, then why did they add that metal piece to help secure the battery? I've been using the dcf921 and dcf923, but I'm excited to get these guys in my hands. I'm sure dewalt will clap back soon enough. It's a never ending battle, which is why I use both platforms and don't stick to one color or brand.
which is the go to stubby to buy, the 3/8" model or the 1/2"?
I would like to know too and am having trouble deciding. I have 1/2 and 3/8 impact sockets, but far more 1/2. I only work on my own vehicles, not professionally.
Right now I am leaning towards the 3/8. 12mm-19mm is what I work in the most and the sockets are smaller. Space isn’t usually an issue in larger sizes and the adapter just adds weight. The 5 year warranty makes me not so worried about breaking it too. I’ve removed some 1 1/2” rusted bolts with my 1/4 Ryobi and nothing broke. I think I just convinced myself to get the 3/8.
the new one is much better than the old. own both 1/2 inch and the m18 1/2 also. The m12 gen 2 10/10
honestly works better than I thought it would. my gut tells me to still use a M18 1/2 "mid torque" for lugs. not everything is nice and clean
A good tool to have on the road to change a tire. For us "getting older guys".
Seriously considering it. I'm a younger woman but have a condition where my brain is coming out of my skull. Last time I had a flat I was so mad- trying to get the lugs off gave me a massive headache and I had to call someone to change it for me.
@@cityslicker77what’s this condition called that sounds horrible but undoubtedly this or the Dewalt stubby will change your life! They are super fast and that little baby battery it comes with will do you just fine!
@@Queso1526 chiari malformation (of the brain). Symptoms can be all over the place and vary in severity, but in my case I did need surgery to help improve my quality of life a little (did not entirely "fix" things, but for some people it can, and others dont need surgery). I figured out I had it when laughing started to give me bad headaches.
My dad got me an m12 driver/drill kit for xmas so yeah maybe another reason to get one of these (with a good battery)
Very cool, it would be interesting to see some tasks that can be done with the stubby that can't be accomplished with a larger tool. I still mostly use a Ridgid mid-torque and have no complaints, but it is much larger and bulkier. That said, I think the M12 stubby (and Surge impact driver) are the only two tools in the Milwaukee lineup that I can't find a comparable version in other platforms in terms of size/weight/compactness.
Hey Brian did you use one 2.5ahr battery to off all your lug nuts and put them back on? Incredible
Yes, multiple times. It is not as thirsty when it is not being pushed hard.
@WorkshopAddict thanks Brian
Pre-Ordered mine already I saw too many videos on comparisons to other brands and this one was finally the one to make me want to pre-order the 3/8 Kit.
From where and when is it shipping?
@@jonathangaliano2617 got it from Acme Tools it says it will ship either by September or October but they usually release everything by October.
@@jonathangaliano2617 I ordered mine from ACME Tools about 3 weeks ago and they are already shipping it out to me
Thank you for this great video. Can you please tell me if a 3/8 drive (M12) is good enough for wheel removal? Or would you prefer the 1/2"? So many opinions on either or for and against 3/8. I would appreciate to hear yours. Thank you
It does not matter. I would buy whatever model you have, or plan to buy, impact sockets in. For me, I like 1/2" as I can get 1/2" drive down to 8mm and up to 50mm plus. 3/8" can be harder to get larger sockets in.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you for responding. Regardless of sockets (I'll worry about that later) you don't feel the 3/8 anvil is not robust enough for bolt removal? Wouldn't the 1/2 anvil be more appropriate to take on the torque and spin of a wheel bolt? Comparing the two, looking at them side by side the 3/8 worries me. But I don't have years of continuous experience. I look to you for that as I am not a mechanic but a car enthusiast and have removed my wheels hundreds of times all beit using the iron the car came with. If you say 3/8 is just plain fine then I'll go with it. Thanks again!
As someone who has invested in M12 but not M18, it looks like I'm not going to be investing in making the switch to the big dog m18 stuff quite yet!
My old kobalt 24v 1/2" impact is growing long in the tooth, so I may be in for a 1/2" gen 2 stubby in the future.
I’m a heavy tow operator. Do you think this would be a good option to remove drive lines on big trucks?
No
I think it would have plenty being their not big nut and it's not like there rusted. That's my thoughts. They can remove 500 lbs
@@johnlandis5889 luckily I was able to purchase of these through a snap on dealer, and it actually does a fantastic job removing drive line bolts, caging brakes, and all my other needs as a heavy tow operator. The one and only con I have about this second gen stubby is the mode select. Find myself accidentally hitting it into neutral and changing the mode a lot😅. But that’s everyone’s con I feel.
@@Kotixvii yeah good to hear! If I bought one I wouldn't like the mode selector either! I was a roadside mechanic back in the day! I thought it would do well
I gave my old stubby away, but I'm definitely buying this one. Big fan of m12 tools...makita 18v and Milwaukee 12v are my tools
It’s it more than enough to tighten and removed a 2024 BmW 330i tired on a sedan ?/
What juice did they put in this new stubby? I have the older stubby and it no way near 500
I would still recommend 2554 stubby for a beginner. Less power to break things.
Is the 2.5 high output battery enough to change all brakes and rotors including lug nuts?
Yes, it could do all of that on a 3/4 ton truck and have room left.
Wow that's impressive for a small battery
Can't give up my dewalt dcf921 with the power stack...it's beyond what I really need
Well with this it’s better in most ways it has the high output 6 amp or 5 amp if I’m not mistaken
@@jonnnn4895 So you are a fan of Milwaukee tools? Could you tell me if adding batteries with a lot of amp screws up the tools?
DCF 921 is a monster.
@@novavolks9652 Ah Is just a means of communicating how many (A)mps can be delivered per (h)our. General rule of thumb, is a higher capacity battery is capable of delivering more current (amps) to the motor. If a tool with a 5Ah battery needs one amp of current, you can run the tool for 5 hours. If the tool needs 5 amps of current, you can run the tool for an hour.
It's far more nuanced than more Ah, more better if you will. Different packs could use different cell types, or different configurations to offer different outputs. For example, XC 6.0 and XC High Output 6.0. Same Amp hour rating, different cell type.
@@novavolks9652 nope batteries don't push amps. the tool will draw what it needs. if it cant get all the amps it wants it will run slower.
this impact actually runs 100 ft lbs less if not using the high out put batteries. (so 450 ft lbs ish). even with the 6 amp hr regular does 450ft lbs vs the 2.5 amp hr high out put will do the 550ft lbs .
Also FYI Amp hour is the batteries capacity so higher the AH the longer battery last not how much power the battery can supply to the tool. it will still supply the same wattage to the tool. the high out put same capacity but battery can handle a faster discharge (can provide more watts (amps) for the tool.)
I have one and it's an awesome tool transmission shop day after day never fails
Make a video showing the old version and the new version and where the old one fails to take off something compared to the new one, i don’t know why nobody has done this yet.
Exactly my thoughts too. A comparison video is what I would like to see.
@@Rhosk44Don't worry I will do it when I get it end of month
Same here. I am highly doubtful that this thing has nearly double the ugga dugga of the old one....
my 1st gen 3/8 and 1/2 are useless most of the time even for 100 ft/lbs lugs..
@@tolga1cool just got the 3/8 and 1/2 PIN DETENT in this week no way they have DBL the POWER have tested them on my TH-cam channel
Gonna have to get the 1/2" version for sure, not sure I can justify replacing my 3/8"
I went for the 1/2" version first and I now have an order in for the 3/8". Partially due to the drive mode change that is in the trigger. Once I got used to it, i want both to be the same.
@@WorkshopAddict For mostly doing lug nuts/car maintenance, would you go for the 1/2" with impacts or 3/8" with impacts?
Already have the 1/2" high torque so thinking 3/8
@@spencerleeb IF you want to invest in more impact sockets, go 3/8", if you want to use the same sockets you have, go 1/2".
@@spencerleeb you better have a good warranty for the sockets if you go 3/8
Home Depot has it on sell for $179 with 2 batteries and a charger. Couldn’t resist
I got the gen 1 and it's one of my most used tools love it, I'm going to ask my dad to get me this for Christmas
Can't wait for them to come out next month
I used to be a chevy lubetech. Those are probably 140 - 150 foot pound. Looks really impressive. I used to remove those every day with air impact or 18v high torque. There is no difference in speed. Impressive
Would you recommend this for tire rotates and removal of metal skid plates all day at a Nissan dealership
@@nolove5062 I would and would probably recommend the xc 5.0 HO battery. It should have zero issues with anything you run across. That battery should last a good while.
My same line of thinking
I have the 3/8" version pre-ordered from Ohio Power Tool and I cannot wait to get it. My M18 mid-torque is probably going to be collecting dust.
There's always that 5ah high output battery - hoping to grab a few more this coming Black Friday 💪😎
Home Depot has a sale for 3 5.0 batteries and a charger for $199! Check it out!
so with the m12 5.0 vs a regular m18 5.0 is it same exact run time?
Is it available anywhere in the US yet?
What sucks is that it's not in stock anywhere.
Preorder or not avalible.
So many people pre ordered this that it took stock to zero. BUT, I just looked and Home Depot has them with free delivery and in stock in many stores.
Can’t even find these in Canada.. are they on the 🇺🇸 market ?
I'm shocked by this upgrade. The current stubby is very impressive I have it. I plan to upgrade to this. So useful it will be. I like the trigger selection
I'm just a guy looking for a small impact to bring with me that can used to change a flat quickly on the side of a road on my truck or trailer. I currently have a full size 18volt Dewalt that is about 6 years old and needs new batteries. I think this would be very nice replacement and compact vs my Dewalt.
What's everyone's opinion on getting the 3/8" vs the 1/2"?
1/2" better to add sockets to but you could use an adapter
I'm late to the game I know, but how do you know what level to put it on when removing a nut or when installing a nut and I'm not talking about lugnuts because those technically going on should be torqued. My main concern is how do I know what setting to put it at so I don't over torque things when doing basic engine repair on your vehicle, motorcycle, SxS, ATV etc?
That sense comes with use. Start out on low settings and use a ratchet or torque wrench to learn it. Important bolts/nuts should be checked.
Are you using 1/2 in or 3/8 version?
never owned an impact and want to get this one, is there any reason you wouldn't just keep it on the highest mode at all times?
Possibly break small fasteners and non impact sockets
Does this use 1/2 drive sockets. Only dumb reason why I ask because my milwaukee 3/8 ratchet only uses 1/2 and I did not understand why it being 3/8 it using 1/2 even though i like the idea. Just new at automotive tool buying.
1 thing that people might overlook is that not having a button to change mode just 1 less potential point of failure.
I think people may be overlooking all the extra use and wear on the trigger and the forward & reverse switch just to change modes..
Get rid of this one handed mode switch & bring our button back!!
Have the 1/2 with PIN DETENT on order have a month worth of TESTING to do now MILWAUKEE needs a FORGE BATTERY 2.5 and 5 for there M12 FUEL LINE don't care if it's POUCH CELLS or TABLESS CELLS
Speaking of semi truck wheels.. I want to see it bust one off and that’s all anyone should need to see to buy one.
I seen someone take off 1 semi lug but it was torque to spec 500 ft lbs but you couldn't use it in real world application because it does not have the juice or battery power and it wouldn't last long tool wise! You'd overheat it! Most truck mechanics over torque them with a 1"" air gun and be done with it. No messing around
Are you using the 3/8" or 1/2" drive in this video? What is the best for someone working on a car?
1/2 is better imo.
@ That’s is what I thought. Thanks.
torque test showed 3/8 is stonger than 1/2 ( only applies to the new m12)
Does this tool come in a tool case? Or is it just a bare tool by itself.
if you buy the -20 model it comes bare with nothing. if you get the -22 version it comes with batteries, charger and a fabric case.
The control button location sukks. Always getting in the way messin up your mode setting.
Sorry if i missed it but is that 3/8 or 1/2 in the video? Also the highest torqued rims i have are 140 and ill be using it for rims 75% of the time. Would yall suggest the 1/2 or 3/8?
@@yoshi2tvmes half on the video. I like half for lugs because it is easier to find good sockets
I think in the long run having the double tap neutral feature will be more reliable than a button. The biggest question I have is at 550 ft/lbs for the gen 2 stubby why would someone buy the less powerful compact m18 impact wrench for the same or higher price?
@jronmanbuilds Only reason I see is to stay in the m18 line. I bet those get upgrades soon.
Because the m18 battery format is more reliable than the m12s cheap plastic indents that are supposed to hold the battery in place.
@@WorkshopAddict Weren’t they updated last year or was it the year before? Everything is a blur on the releases. I do see m18 has the torque control one key option.
They're good for setting lugs on cars.
Also I heard a good mechanic say they'll do 80% of shop work!
I work at a automatic transmition shop. I take down tires constantly. Is this compact wrench recomaneded or the ½ in. works best?
@@AjMunguia The new model will do great. The older one might not be the best choice. The M18 mid torque would be the most ideal for doing nothing but lugs all day.
As long as you're not doing heavy rusted suspension
It that the 1/2 or the 3/8. What are your thoughts about the 3/8 with an adapter for 1/2?
I think that'd work great except for tight clearances with the 1/2 " impact sockets. You could get tight clearances with 3/8 sockets up to about 13/16
i think mines broken cuz it struggles to take off small things. like 19mm ford lugs that are torqued to 100ft lbs but i just watched u do a whole rotate of 140 ft lbs wheels...
What is it expected to cost?
Hm if I do eventually buy this (been wanting the old one for a while) idk if I should get 3/8 or 1/2. I have a Dewalt 20v mid torque already but only a few sockets. Picked up a 13 piece impact socket set from HF today for only $6 but they are 1/2
For my gen 1 I chose 1/2” and will again. It’s very rare that I don’t have room for an adapter if needed.
I'd suggest if you were going to do a lot of light truck work such as tires to buy the half inch model but if you were working more on cars too get the 3/8 version. I heard a good mechanic say that the newer models will do 80% of light shop work.
I like the way it changes modes now. One handed. But if someone likes 250 ft/lbs of torque on a 2 handed mode changes, MILWAUKEE still sells the previous gen impact stubby. 😬👍
I'd like to have the older model for car lugs and the newer model for truck lugs
Yeah, I remember a couple years ago when they said the ir 1inch was the strongest cordless impact they used taking off little bolt but when Jay paid dirt use that same impact wrench it couldn’t keep up with a $280 1inch Air earthquake
So they claimed theirs was the strongest cordless impact and you’re shocked it couldn’t outdo a large air impact. I don’t think anyone with any mechanical knowledge has ever thought an electric impact will beat an air impact. However, if an electric impact can do what you need it sure is nicer than dragging the air out. One must have reasonable expectations
Is this for sale in uk yet ?
Can you tell me for how long the battery last charge.
I did everything in this video and I show you the charge. Doing small tasks it will last for a very long time. Pushing it and make it work and the battery will go down much faster.
Why are you using a small baterry 😅??
Just amazes me how much power can be squeezed out of a 12V architecture. I need to sell my mid torque M18 now.
the mid torques are still better, these dont last as long either only good buy if you dont use them much
@@Seeker-vo2tz You mean the 12v break down faster?
@@rockys7726 yeah youd only choose this over price thats it
At the end of the day, it’s the right tool for the right job and not everybody needs the biggest baddest strongest impact on the market to do their jobs and if we can continually make smaller products like this, that will also fit in more areas that’s more important to a lot of people, especially depending on the job they’re needing the tool for
They just need a 5-position reverse switch High-Low-Off-Low-High with an extended range trigger.
Which battery is being used in the video?
Watch the video.
Wondering why the Canadian release of this tool has been pushed back to 2025 ??
I've seen this thing in action with my son's friends Impressed
Can you get it with the pin detent anvil? When I upgrade I want to try the pin detent because my only complaint with my old stubby is how many friction rings it eats up from the shear amount of use this tool sees (yes I’m using impact sockets).
@ILYxIW yes, a pin detent version is available
I have a 3/8”gen one that I use often and a 1/2” hi torque that I use occasionally. I like the 1/2” Stubby . The neutral speed change
Would probably be be easier once I got used to it.
Great video. Thanks
I love my m12 stubby 1/2 it's my everyday tool I use mostly but have a new one that's lightweight and more powerful is a game changer. I will buy asap but don't like the 2 trigger mode switch my guess they love Guns😅
Release date?
Can you remove all 4 tires before battery dies
Yes, if you watch the video I removed them all and put them back on and still had a ton of battery left.
only if you buy the 200$ battery... honestly beter go go a mid torque that 12v
which one is this gen 3?
How? This is like double of the old one?
Does anybody have a link to buy this please, can't find it online
Sep 2 my dude, gotta wait for sep 2
more importantly, what country is it made in ?
is that the 1/2 or 3/8 model?
@@scriptedPR half
Why do you hit it with a torque wrench? 😅 Could this not tighten enough?
So if i were to get the DEWALT 20V MAX Cordless Impact Wrench Kit with 1030 ft-lbs of max fastening torque and 1400 ft-lbs of max, would i still need to hit the lug with a torque wrench as well?
😅 Thanks for taking the time to answer.
I'm waiting till torque test channel gets ahold of it
@slingin_tires I also cannot wait to see their video!
Tim Johnson over at Shop Tool Reviews has tested it out and it broke free nuts that were torqued up to 650ft-lbs. That's insane.
Brian
is it released in the States ?
Yes. All orders should be shipping very soon.
@@WorkshopAddictthanks
says Sept for Canada
i had been using 2554-20 3/8” old version since 2018 summer to take many tires off and on each season, brakes job with xc 4.0.
Love it, better sockets from Milwaukee now, i was using Wera shallow sockets and it did excellent job for years
I pick mine up tomm
I'm sure it's a good tool I love dcf 911 I do my tire changes on my suv and truck and it does it well
Is that the 3/8 or 1/2
1/2"
I wonder if milwaukee can upgrade their m12 impact driver to rival the top 18v drivers in a smaller format
Everyone's come across a caliper bolt that was seized on that there mid torque could not even listen