Forge welding with Filip Ponseele: the double cleft weld! (2020)

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  • Belgian Blacksmith Filip Ponseele demonstrates a double cleft weld in mild steel. The flux used is Quartz sand.
    The two bars are upset, then tapered and cut to form two clefts. The two clefts are then pushed together to hold the two bars together.
    After fixing together, the clefts can be forge welded together.
    Email: TechnicusJoe@gmail.com
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  • @wyattkindler496
    @wyattkindler496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It would be interesting to cut the bars right in the middle of the weld to see if there's any inclusions where the bars initially came together

  • @grandadz_forge
    @grandadz_forge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir Ponseele has a wealth of knowledge that is enjoyable to soak in. Thanks Joey

  • @jolllyroger1
    @jolllyroger1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's always a pleasure watching a craftsman play his craft.... this one knows what he is doing

  • @demastust.2277
    @demastust.2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really really love Filips choice in hammer style. French patterns are lovely.

  • @MrDukaman
    @MrDukaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome weld. Ever time I watch him I learn something Thank you joe and flip .....Paul⚒🔥👍

  • @Fire_And_Iron
    @Fire_And_Iron ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video.

  • @sirtalkalotdoolittle
    @sirtalkalotdoolittle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no idea how this showed up in my recommended videos, but I'm glad I watched it.

  • @motd8931
    @motd8931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos you do with Filip. Learning a lot. I'm still in awe he got that slug out while it was still yellow!

  • @alexnosheds
    @alexnosheds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible archival work you two are doing. Inspiring!

  • @jaredbradley4095
    @jaredbradley4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While watching this all I can think about is a got arthritis from fishing and this guy is going like a champ 😂. Awesome craftsmanship

  • @robertwolfe3868
    @robertwolfe3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying your videos with Filip. Thanks.

  • @mrmyorky5634
    @mrmyorky5634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's fascinating to watch someone who is clearly a highly skilled blacksmith forge welding a butt joint. Thank you sir, it made a refreshing change after watching a growing number of cowboy You-Tubers pretending to be real engineers.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're to kind Sir. Could not agree more

  • @lewerim
    @lewerim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel.
    Your guest moves with great speed an authority. A very confident Smith.
    And he has a stellar moustache. So, there's that. :)

  • @douglasfathers4848
    @douglasfathers4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Joey really enjoy watching Filip at work he makes it look so easy.
    So thanks for sharing mate, (:

  • @keltheblacksmith9271
    @keltheblacksmith9271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y’all are having way too much fun!

  • @AnthraciteGari
    @AnthraciteGari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful demonstration, excellently filmed. Very nice.

  • @CosmoStas_IkonoStas
    @CosmoStas_IkonoStas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from Quebec!! Thank you for sharing!

  • @brysonalden5414
    @brysonalden5414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making a fairly difficult weld look so easy!

  • @NeilGraham.I.M.F
    @NeilGraham.I.M.F 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Again thank you for sharing, great to watch a master at work

  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was one of the coolest forge welds I've seen. 🤟 🔨On!!

  • @knifethrower9733
    @knifethrower9733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this guys work, living the dream

  • @davidebkct
    @davidebkct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the pleasure to met Filip in Stia (italy) years ago! What a wonderful person he is!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ciao Davide, spero tuto bene . Piacere Filip Ponseele

    • @davidebkct
      @davidebkct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@filipponseele7346 Tutto benissimo, ci rivediamo presto a Stia! 👍👍

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidebkct Dio volete Mi manca Stia

  • @louislarose6613
    @louislarose6613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great welds ! Good instruction ! Awesome video !

  • @mtyson9004
    @mtyson9004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool gentlemen! Thanks for sharing and God Bless you guys!

  • @TheIrishAmish
    @TheIrishAmish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smashing good stuff gentlemen!

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joey great video love these videos

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your video so I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @russellsmith3825
    @russellsmith3825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be interesting to examine the weld with x-ray or ultrasonic to see if there were any voids in the middle of the joint when finished

  • @fredericmartin8758
    @fredericmartin8758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C'est mon métier et je vous remercie car c'est clairement une excellente technique.
    La prochaine soudure en bout j'essaye comme ça.
    Merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo.

  • @DulishusWaffle
    @DulishusWaffle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful. Thank you for your videos!

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely work!!!

  • @anthonyhendrikx6175
    @anthonyhendrikx6175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A master of the craft !!

  • @drason69
    @drason69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome!! Very cool Sir 👍

  • @LinusGustafsson
    @LinusGustafsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, what a treat, thank you both!

  • @andreymetko3320
    @andreymetko3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting, thank you! Hello from Russia!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much Andrey . Garaso Kind regards Filip Ponseele

  • @lArtisanBrasseur
    @lArtisanBrasseur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Vraiment un beau vidéo ça!

  • @patrickhance7211
    @patrickhance7211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👌 da's nogal ne krak de Filip.mooi gefilmd Joey ⚒️🔥⚒️

  • @tructieptinvui1248
    @tructieptinvui1248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good. Well done, see you guys

  • @herbievanbeveren1314
    @herbievanbeveren1314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very Nice!!

  • @andrejohnson6731
    @andrejohnson6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That double cleft looks tricky. So informative! I appreciate the shout out from Filip. But we are not Québéquiens, rather Québécois 🤓

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mes excuses.Je ferai mieux la prochaine fois

    • @andrejohnson6731
      @andrejohnson6731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Filip Ponseele merveilleuse démonstration de vos talents de forgeron, Mr Ponseele. Mille merci 😊

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrejohnson6731 De rien Toujours le bien venue chez moi

  • @markspc1
    @markspc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beyond awesome !

  • @MSArts11134
    @MSArts11134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work sir

  • @juliocesarruiz3368
    @juliocesarruiz3368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job 🙏👍🇲🇽

  • @antoner1386
    @antoner1386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah yes... The old "scissor weld". One of my favorite

    • @BrookieCooki84
      @BrookieCooki84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the comment I was looking for. Lol.

    • @mattp6355
      @mattp6355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The weld lesbians made popular

  • @ademdogan7213
    @ademdogan7213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fier d'avoir un compatriote de cette classe.

  • @hvforge9147
    @hvforge9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff.

  • @tinmanx2222
    @tinmanx2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great hammer control.

  • @patriciusvunkempen102
    @patriciusvunkempen102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent technique i will try especialy with quartz sand

  • @tac0ninja76
    @tac0ninja76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The next sand bender! Flying sand.

  • @bagheadbaby
    @bagheadbaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Verry nice!

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw your thumbnail, and had to think for a second

  • @absmith666
    @absmith666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thanks. Joey, would you consider that joint as strong as modern forms of welding?

  • @gilauth6791
    @gilauth6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Very GOOD The technique The artisans The camera work.What a team .Soon you'll received I am convinced some reconnaissance for your remarkable contribution in propagating vanishing human knowledge .Not to mention your multicultural dimension English Dutch or Flemish?¿? French Italian way to go .
    Oprecht Bedankt Tot Ziens
    du Québec

  • @catherineasselin7986
    @catherineasselin7986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meci beaucoup pour ses vidéos !!

  • @dozer1642
    @dozer1642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That anvil is amazing.

  • @erniebeswick7675
    @erniebeswick7675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could watch flip all day

  • @alakererani6524
    @alakererani6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i was curious if there was a specific purpose or reason for the various welds, applications and such. also what would be good reading material for finding more info? love these videos

  • @ThePsychodad69
    @ThePsychodad69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did u do a flex test?
    Would it work over length?
    Thinking about packing or dropping some stuff out on a piece of land, this could save a bunch.

  • @chrisosh9574
    @chrisosh9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am guessing this weld gives twice the surface contact area of a normal scarf weld so that in theory it should be stronger and have less chance of a fail.
    It's great that you both speak such good English

  • @Uncle_Matt_
    @Uncle_Matt_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m calling this the scissor weld

  • @cojones8518
    @cojones8518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice weld, but wouldn't it be easier to fit up and less chance of voids if the insides of the "mouths" were beveled? IE cut with a blunt(ish)hardy.

  • @tucsonmclean5138
    @tucsonmclean5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest...I never fast forward this video..... It was a joy watching u work....forge welding is not something I've seen up close you made it look easy....it's to bad my country don't promote these skills... would have love to learn this from some one...... forging..or blacksmithing..or whatever it's called

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you live? Invite us over w'll come

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to see the smithy at the technical school where he teaches.
    I wonder if the container labeled Sable (french for sand) was an old fire bucket.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's from an old kitchenset with soap, soda and sand , to clean pots and pans

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the school i teached at has gasfires from Angele. Different aproch of forging

  • @thomasbroking7943
    @thomasbroking7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love watching these forging videos. I hope one day to get a chance to make something. I see you throwing the sand into the fire, would it be any good to have sand on top ov the table you pound on?? I think you could keep pounding it and all the sand will be on the hot spot. Great video

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you mis the purpose of using sand. It's put on when the metal is nearly melting to protect it from oxygen and to make the metal flowing when melting Kind regards

    • @thomasbroking7943
      @thomasbroking7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filipponseele7346 i have no idea at all. Thanks

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, thats the function of the mouse hole, holds tallow for greasing punches! That genius, the old fellas were pretty clever!

    • @TechnicusJoe
      @TechnicusJoe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. It's a handling or "porter hole" in British English. It from when the anvil was forged, moving it about with bars, since its too big to use any type of tongs.
      The hole can be used to put grease, though that is not its original function.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was the blacksmith from the village of Poesele near Aalter who put his grease there.His name was Adiel Afschrift, a fine craftsman

    • @paulorchard7960
      @paulorchard7960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, mystery solved, I have one mouse hole, small though, about 65 kg, my bigger anvil does not and I know without any doubt it is cast steel! Thats why I was curious! Smart idea to use it for grease, as long as the anvil is not too close to the forge. Thankyou both for clearing that up, I’m loving these traditional welding videos, very interesting and expanding my knowledge!

  • @MrRick693
    @MrRick693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My golfers elbow, tennis elbow in the other, carpal tunnel in both hands, and my arthritis is saying fuck this. My job is hard enough. Just watching this makes me hurt lol

  • @dave_in_florida
    @dave_in_florida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wunderbar

  • @wizzlefits
    @wizzlefits 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet using different steels & several types of welds on a small scale, would make for an interesting "damascus".

  • @AlphaNerd132
    @AlphaNerd132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't this method trap air in the center of it? or is the whole idea to get both Vs to bottom out on each other?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the gap insures tight fitting and surfacewelding around the bar. No air involved

  • @Fruckert
    @Fruckert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anvil grease?

  • @erikcourtney1834
    @erikcourtney1834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How long has he been smithing. It has definitely been a long time. He’s good and fast

  • @20mcarroll02
    @20mcarroll02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I would love to go apprentice under him

  • @nathanaelwendel883
    @nathanaelwendel883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks like someone wearing a spy disguise

  • @Theodinsson
    @Theodinsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any particular proportions to respect for the upsetting or is this something that can just be estimated?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once you have mastered blacksmithwelding you can upset less material, if not upset enough so not to be sorry when you fail and lost to much metal

    • @Theodinsson
      @Theodinsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filipponseele7346 thank you Filip!

  • @kabalankaman8770
    @kabalankaman8770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir you a lot of tongs any kind and really lov it to see oh yeaaaaahhhh

  • @rich2583
    @rich2583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would these welds be used for?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This shape makes a bigger weldingsurface and so a stronger welding. Used in churches to connect arches with wallanchors. Wrought iron improved with forging and welding

  • @jlszesny2471
    @jlszesny2471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never been able to weld low carbon steel to low carbon steel without sparking heat.
    and people said thats just how it works with low carbon to low carbon welds.
    buuuut, you're constantly welding stuff without sparking heat...
    is there a secret or sweet spot before it begins to spark?
    cause I've tried to find it but I couldn't even get a single tack weld without some sparks coming off it...

    • @veteranironoutdoors8320
      @veteranironoutdoors8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like you are bringing your pieces up to heat too quickly. The outside gets hot but the core never reaches welding temperature. So when you pull your piece out of the fire the core saps the heat and keeps you from welding at all but a sparkling heat

    • @alex0dell592
      @alex0dell592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve found that sparking heat is too high.what I watch for is when the steel begins to look wet and when it is indistinguishable from the coals. The best welds in mild steel are at that heat. I also usually do two welding heats and sometimes three. Flux at an orange to yellow helps.

    • @jlszesny2471
      @jlszesny2471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@veteranironoutdoors8320 so far I thought I had brought the pieces up to heat slowly enough..maybe not
      I'll try to be very slow and even next time.

    • @jlszesny2471
      @jlszesny2471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alex0dell592 im using charcoal and I usually have the steel completely covered so im going mostly blind by feel and experience.
      but I'll try to see if I can bring it up to heat while leaving a small window for me to look at the steel surface.
      thx

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy6151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No wonder we invented oxyacytlene and arc welding. That was a lot of work and took a long time

    • @dustin1203
      @dustin1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...oxy, welding, and beer. Myself, I think Joey would have made quicker work of it.

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Took to long?????

  • @courtneykachur9487
    @courtneykachur9487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the “chemical makeup” of the flakes that fly off like skin when you hit it yellow hot? And what do you call that stuff? Also, is it useful or just trash?

    • @craigslitzer4857
      @craigslitzer4857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dunno what the chemical makeup is, but I think most people call that "scale"

    • @andrewkirkham3452
      @andrewkirkham3452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Craig Slitzer it’s ferric oxide - fe2o3

    • @andrewkirkham3452
      @andrewkirkham3452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As for uses, it’s can be used for glazing pottery, and also as an oxidiser

  • @dyingwish914
    @dyingwish914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful work but is the point of this weld

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More surface so a stronger weld(for wallanchoring)

  • @1873Winchester
    @1873Winchester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do that too, say centimeters when I mean millimeters

  • @pianochannel100
    @pianochannel100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound when you're splitting the bars with the chisel is such a sharp bang. You must have to smack fairly hard?

  • @murataflytunov223
    @murataflytunov223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Как производится сварка в горне, чем защищается зона контакта?

  • @oldtrio1
    @oldtrio1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    forge welding

  • @ztheblacksmith
    @ztheblacksmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that anvil rings like a bell hope y’all were wearing ear protection!

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I added a magnet today so wait for the next time to HEAR the difference

    • @ztheblacksmith
      @ztheblacksmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Filip Ponseele 👍

  • @ronthacker211
    @ronthacker211 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't see why there would not be a void in the center?!?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weldingheat makes the inside melt aswell so no void

  • @manin10
    @manin10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Benny Hill does Blacksmithing!😁

  • @clarkstevens2711
    @clarkstevens2711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was really cool to see but on your next videos it would be nice if you turn the sound down with your hammering it is hurting my ears so I did it on my end but I could not hear you speak

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello i installed a magnet so that should solve that problem.Thank you for your intrest. Kind regards

  • @piessevauxmathias3495
    @piessevauxmathias3495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    kunnen we zijn smidse bezoeken ? Je parle anglais et français mais mon flamand n'est pas très bon :/

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C'est pas grave on vous garde quand meme. Toujours le bien venue chez moi

    • @piessevauxmathias3495
      @piessevauxmathias3495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filipponseele7346 je viendrai avec plaisir dans ce cas ! Ou peut on vous trouver ?

    • @filipponseele7346
      @filipponseele7346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Le village de Knesselare près de Aalter

  • @grigorijneskaju8029
    @grigorijneskaju8029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Почему это у меня в рекомендациях?

  • @michaeltuckerman6983
    @michaeltuckerman6983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the video just had to turn my volume down the reign of that Anvil is just too annoying

  • @juanvenegasgallegos7145
    @juanvenegasgallegos7145 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Les presento a Einstein en un taller de forja

  • @satan4409
    @satan4409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like two girl’s scissoring

  • @hujiko44745278184
    @hujiko44745278184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    poggers

  • @nickhale117
    @nickhale117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @2:28 before you wreck yourself

  • @tarachandkhobragade6097
    @tarachandkhobragade6097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    July under by keep on is

  • @Sassenhaim
    @Sassenhaim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds English is dutch🤣😂

  • @undakovabrotha
    @undakovabrotha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “It’s like two snakes trying to rat one another” I thought of 69😏

  • @DV-ld8gp
    @DV-ld8gp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s cool and everything but it’s all so extra.