@@CDYTRCG True, i3 gaming performance is about the same but nowhere does it come near the i7s multi core performance! So i'd have to say the 12th gen i3 is great just for gaming and nothing else!
I have a i3 10105 coupled with a gtx 1650 GDDR6. It's perfect for 1080p high-max settings in eSports titles and 1080p medium-high settings in AAA titles. I am a budget gamer and i am happy with this setup.
@@romeocodm dang I had to do surveys and gather $500 for a pc. A summer job would be so much faster. Too bad I’m too young for one. 4 or so months of boring work payed off at the end though
I just built my bother a puter in a older Smilodon box. I used a i3 10100f cpu and a H510 mobo. It works great. My Sister-in-law is a teacher and uses it for her job for things she can do at home and You Tube. The video card went out but I had a replacement from a recent upgrade so I fixed it. She is back online and very happy.
I got a I5 instead of a I3 to future proof. I usually upgrade my CPU + Motherboard every 5 - 7 years. I doubt 4 cores and 8 threads will be ideal in 4 years for modern games.
Thats my plan. But secondhand GPU is much cheaper (1 year old GPU 40-60% cheaper than a new one) and 1 year old CPU just 10% cheaper than a new one, so i bought 12100f and a secondhand 6700xt, and sell my 12100f next year.
11 thank you so much for this!! I really wanted to get stray on my computer but i only had and i3, and you guys convinced me to do it. and now im halfway through the game having the time of my life!!!
The i3s are genuinely impressive capable gaming chips now. I remember when they first dropped and they were terrible but that isnt the case anymore. Serious value for money there.
my i5 9400f struggles so hard in a lot of games. this has to be for a specific use case like older games certain esports titles or if you're only targeting 100fps, an i3 is rough for Apex at least with a 2060.
@@anonymous16472 I'm on a Ryzen 5 3600 which is very similar and it's perfectly fine and I run it undervolted at 4.1ghz with a hyper 212 black edition, never goes above 62c even with aida 64
I suspect this little cpu and for its price will become a little legend. It is clear that Intel was directly competing with AMD here in providing up till then unheard of price to performance. Time will tell, but from what I am seeing I am impressed and see no need of an upgrade for average budget gamers/workstations the next few years from this. This chip can punch far beyond its weight in terms of not bottlenecking mid range gpus. Pairing it with discounted tinkering boards (which will happen as news gens are released) gives the ability to bring in some 6cores/12threads later (11600s). True, you will not have access to some features, but in the main this platform (while not as relevant OR PRICEY) as the 12/13th gens, still has some legs.
And now there is also the 13500 and 13600K. I do play fallout 4 a little bit (full hd) and do video cut in full hd with davinci resolve.. u think the 12400 is enough for my needs? I will keep my GPU which is a Sapphire RX 570 8GB.
Got it for my gf build and paired it with a second hand rx 580 por like 150 bucks. Whole build costed less than 400 euros and runs every game released until now (most of them at high settings)
The bigger shared L3 cache on the i5 probably makes more difference than the extra cores. That is what I will base my next CPU purchase on. You can overclock the locked i5's and i3's with the right motherboards. I'm considering the ROG strix B660.
4 cores are just a pain in 2022 and I can say from personal use. I used an i3-10100 and it really didn't satisfy my needs in eSports games like valorant even with an RX 570, and when i streamed my gameplay to my friends on discord it took a bigger hit. Switched to an i5-11400 and I'm so much happier right now.
Switched to i5 was a pretty bad idea. Even i3-10100 can do some serious stuffs. All you had to do was overclock it. Simple, it takes maybe 5 minutes to overclock it. From something 4GHz all the way up to 4,7. Even i'm using 11 or 12 years old CPU i7 2600, instead of buying a whole new system, for me it's better to take it simpler and cheaper. I don't want to spend much, so i can buy i7 3770K with good heatsink, that will cost around 90€ than obviously what else can you do with unlocked cpu? Yes, OC. 4,9GHz all cores all threads and i'm good to go. When you don't have needs playing at 4K 120FPS or 1440p 240FPS, 1080p60Fps is enough, for me it is better go with 3770K and some good heat sink instead of buying new system for like 500€
guys I'm finally upgrading from my FX-9590 based system! I haven't updated my core system since 2013 and I'm excited to see how the i3-12100f is against my old hardware!
Yeah........ an i3 will get the job done if you have a RX 6600, but for literally anything other than 1080p gaming you're gonna need more cores and more threads. There is a reason they make the CPU's that have as high performance that they have. It's because technology is growing and we need better hardware to handle more data. If everyone had an i3 12100 most people would be more than fine, but mid-range GPUs and production workers will need many more cores and threads.
I was considering the 12100f, but when I saw a good deal on the 12400f at a local website, I didn't hesitate to buy it, and not too mention it is future proofing, but if an individual is on a budget, go for the 12100 or 12100f
@@mahvel2381 a 12100f only gets about 5 FPS less than the 12400f, so I'd say go for the i3, prices in my country is always going to be high, because if I change our currency to US Dollars, it will be 197 USD for the i5, our import costs is absolute madness, but if you're on a budget and want a CPU that is a true budget king, supports Both DDR4 and DDR5 and supports PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 go for the i3, as it will infact last a couple of years.
I picked up an optiplex 7020 mt for 150$ upgraded ram from 8 to 16 for 50$ then put a rx 580 in there for 200$ in total 400$ and pretty damn solid Specs after upgrades : i5-4590 16 gb ddr3 ram Rx 580 4gb vram Don't know what the power supply is but it's probably not incredible
Couldn't agree more... I see so many people going out to buy $2000 PCs with Core i9s in them, and then they only use them to play games and that's it, and I'm just like "...why??" Not to mention that the 7 and 9 tier cpus from AMD and Intel are advertised as 'the best gaming CPUs', and while yes, that is 'technically true', it's barely any different in games from something like a core i3. Like I absolutely get it if you're a content creator or someone who does intense work, but the intensive work in games comes from graphics, not CPU instructions
But if you pair an i3/3600 with a 3070 & above GPUs, you are losing anywhere from 30-40% performance because the cpu is bottlenecking the GPUs. While I agree i9 and the 5800 X3D are completely unnecessary for gaming only, the 3600/i3 also leaves no room for upgrade. The sweet spot for Gaming when it comes to CPU is the mid tiers.
I can attest to the new gens being too overpowered to warrant paying more unless it is for heavily multi core demanding tasks. The new i3 and ryze 5 entries are so overpowered that the different /$ is measly and unjustified.
I have an i3 9100f paired with a GTX 1080 with 16GB RAM. Games run just fine at 1080p, but I do get some stutters, very noticable when gaming and using Discord at the same time. I don't think 4 cores is enough to run modern games with anything running in the background. I will say the i3 is a great way to get started gaming, you can easily upgrade in the future.
I still think that I5 is the better choice because it would allow you to upgrade the GPU again in a few years and handle it without problems where the I3 might create a bottleneck and trust me CPU bottlenecks are not fun, I am speaking from experience
People who decide between these two CPUs realistically won't buy a new 600 bucks graphics card in 3 years. And if, then you could as well put a new Raptor Lake CPU into that mainboard as well.
I just Picked up an AMD Ryzen 5 5600G for $159.99 at Micro Center but they also sent me a coupon for $25 off any AMD CPU so I showed them that which brought the price down to $134.99 for a Ryzen 5 5600G which has 6-cores. I looked at the i3-1200F but I am not going back to a quad-core CPU, I mean come on it's 2022.
@@portman8909 Im not getting any stuttering on my stock 4790 or my 3770 cpus. Im using an RTX 2060 for the 3770 and a Radeon 6400 for the 4790. If there is stuttering it could be from weaker GPUs using 2GB of gddr5 ram which isn’t enough to support the game, unless game settings are set on low.
@@sacredbeats5080 really!? i didn't know that. I do still think it holds up well tho because even in more demanding benchmarks its still is pretty good.
The i3-13100F costs €125. 2 years ago I paid €130 for my i5-10400F. So the new i3s have taken the place of i5s. Which means there are no real budget i3 CPUs under €100 anymore. Dont see how thats a good thing.
Would you recommend the i3 12100f over the R5 5500? I am slightly leaning toward the 12100f as it seems like it would have a better upgrade path since the 5500 is already technically “out of date” and they are fairly similar in performance.
I've just made the decision to buy the i3 12100f based on that logic, the upgrade path is better with Intel CPUs. Choose a good motherboard and you're covered for the next years.
I agree that the majority of people's needs are meet by 8 threads or 6 cores. My target is a minimum fps of 144. I play planetside2, a 4 thread cpu limited game. Factorio, a memory speed limited game, and star citizen an 8 thread cpu limited game. I got a 12600k and processLasso to force discord, teamspeak, and firefox to have permanent affinity to the efficiency cores.
you play star citizen consistently? I mean, is that even payable? I remember it being referred to as "scam citizens" by very well known reviewers and all over reddit
It STILL sounds like a bunch of obscure numbers. Is it really that far above my head? It just can't be that incomprehensible. (how big is the universe?)
And eSports.....who saw that coming. Sure you can get an I3 but should you? 2-3 years down the road has you wanting an upgrade where as I5 to I7 has longer lasting performance over time better value.
Anyone looking for 2k or 4k experience on their 60 inch flatscreen should invest min 1 grand on their build and stop skimping on their cpu . If you can’t afford that then get a better job or appreciate the 1080p which is amazing on normal monitors
@@GovindaA i mean, higher resolution would drop the framerates and actually alleviate stress from the cpu and shift the bottleneck to the gpu. Thats probably why they tested at 1080p
Just got myself a new pc with an i3 12100 I got it with budget and upgradability in mind. I know it will do what I need for now, but if I feel like I need an upgrade I can get any of the newer cpus and experience a cheap upgrade without having to buy a new pc
@vnkpardeshi9934 honestly after some months of use and experience with an i5 12400f as well, I have had no problems with the i3 12100f. It actually FEELS faster than my i5 12400f when doing basic windows tasks. I've got nothing but good things to say about the i3 12100f
@@MrAnjelorion I saw some of your videos and i am actually impressed by the way you built your house. The video brings back my memories too. Childhood was great
my friend laugh at me because I want to build my gaming PC with intel core i3 10gen pair with rtx 3050. But my target is 60 fps not 100+ fps, I think you don't need to buy high end cpu if you only want 60fps at 1080p.
I've been gaming for many years, and I only use Intel i3 (except for the 10th gen)...those who look down on i3 are snobs who either haven't really tried i3s and are quick to judge blindly, or, they just have waaaaay too much money to spend on rigs, looking for XXX FPS, that the human eye could barely make a difference of. Playing side by side with my i3 12100 + rtx 2060s gpu and my cousin's i5 11400 + rtx 3060 gpu, my FPS is like 15-20 less than his, but I'd say, I can't see a freakin' difference! If you don't do any multi-tasking while gaming, or don't play while working, then the i3 will suffice.
built my dad a matx pc and he has a i3 11th gen that is equaly as good if not better than my laptops i7 10th gen and his i3 only cost £70 3.6ghz to 4.6ghz boost my i7 runs at 2.8ghz to 4.8ghz matx case with 300w psu msi motherboard 8gb ddr4 2666 1tb nvme crucial 3.0 2gb gtx730 £270
I just bought asrock h610m motherboard and i3 12100f for 230€ and the mobo was just 110€ and cheapest one that supported 1700 was just under 100€ so id say it is a reasonably low price. I just needed a cpu that can handle esports games at a good 144+ fps so paying 230€ to upgrade my mobo and processor isnt bad imo
rtx3050 i5 9400f Asus b310 Mobo cooler master 600w sdd 120gb HDD 500gb got all this for $200 excluding n GPU for $150 all used but perfectly working as new🙋💯
i had an i3 2100 (2nd gen) and upgraded to i5 2500 ... There was a raw performance difference (considering advantage of Turbo Boost), but now it's only confusion in new gens.. the i5 2500 did a great job. It pretty much never was problem in my gaming other than my GPUs.. My i3 worked for me like an i7..Because I was gaming with this for 2 years almost everyday. I have to say is i3 is way better of an option than buying a Pentium considering Hyperthreading feature as well. But I would usually try my best for an i7 or minimum i5 so I dn't have to worry about a cpu upgrade for a while..
Bro its not about the FPS its about the cores, if your gaming and doing other stuff you will suffer with an i3 I3 is like an entry level the i5-K is the best gaming spot
i do NOT recommend getting an I3 or any other low tier CPU, I myself trusted people saying to go for an I3 back in 2017(i3 8100) and i regretted it a lot in the future, ill make some points. 1. the i3 will lock gpu possibilities, so no possibilities to upgrade in the future with newer and better price performance. 2. if the GPU struggles in a game you just have to turn down settings, if the CPU struggles it's a stutter mess and no setting can help you. 3. with a higher tier cpu you will have a better time while using your machine for longer(notice how you see a lot of people with old gen i7s(4770k) around but never old gen i3)
"In the future"...ofcourse it is. because you shouldn't really pair it with a system that's meant for 8k or something. There's no future proofing, a lie. The competition between tech companies proved that and eventually a high end or least very capable ones will be obsolete a few gens later.
i3 12100 is equivelent in gaming performance compared to the i7 9700k! Impressive!
Except the i7 has double the cores
@@CDYTRCG but that i3 is equivalent to that i7 in gaming performance…
@@CDYTRCG True, i3 gaming performance is about the same but nowhere does it come near the i7s multi core performance! So i'd have to say the 12th gen i3 is great just for gaming and nothing else!
It only in gaming. i9 9700k is powerful in every other thing exept in single core performance
@@cybersamiches4028 that’s the point of the video…
I have a i3 10105 coupled with a gtx 1650 GDDR6. It's perfect for 1080p high-max settings in eSports titles and 1080p medium-high settings in AAA titles. I am a budget gamer and i am happy with this setup.
im happy to see that your happy with your setup! I still need to get a summer job and save up for a build.
@@romeocodm Hope you find job soon, i quit my job and i built this setup and now i am struggling to find a job again. Good luck !
@@romeocodm dang I had to do surveys and gather $500 for a pc. A summer job would be so much faster. Too bad I’m too young for one. 4 or so months of boring work payed off at the end though
You do you bro. Once it works for you 👊🏽
@@practicalcucumber1395 dang $500 off of surveys ! what site did you use and how long did it take for you to get that much
I just built my bother a puter in a older Smilodon box. I used a i3 10100f cpu and a H510 mobo. It works great. My Sister-in-law is a teacher and uses it for her job for things she can do at home and You Tube. The video card went out but I had a replacement from a recent upgrade so I fixed it. She is back online and very happy.
You're a good guy
Only fans link for your sister In law
I got a I5 instead of a I3 to future proof. I usually upgrade my CPU + Motherboard every 5 - 7 years. I doubt 4 cores and 8 threads will be ideal in 4 years for modern games.
good choice
Depends.. remember when i3 2100 beating the shit out of amd bulldozer in gaming
Thats my plan. But secondhand GPU is much cheaper (1 year old GPU 40-60% cheaper than a new one) and 1 year old CPU just 10% cheaper than a new one, so i bought 12100f and a secondhand 6700xt, and sell my 12100f next year.
8 gig vram is the min for 4k monitors in 2023 gaming, it's not cheap pc rig, the next ps 6 will really change the market probably.
thats what people were saying in 2012. we're in 2024 now.
11 thank you so much for this!! I really wanted to get stray on my computer but i only had and i3, and you guys convinced me to do it. and now im halfway through the game having the time of my life!!!
I built a 12100/Rx 6600 gaming rig, and I’ve been super happy with it.
The i3s are genuinely impressive capable gaming chips now. I remember when they first dropped and they were terrible but that isnt the case anymore. Serious value for money there.
my i5 9400f struggles so hard in a lot of games. this has to be for a specific use case like older games certain esports titles or if you're only targeting 100fps, an i3 is rough for Apex at least with a 2060.
I have i5-9400f and its not really struggling even latest triple a games what gpu you have?
@@anonymous16472 I'm on a Ryzen 5 3600 which is very similar and it's perfectly fine and I run it undervolted at 4.1ghz with a hyper 212 black edition, never goes above 62c even with aida 64
i5-9400f shouldn't be struggling at all. You might be having other issues like RAM, or a dying hard drive or GPU.
@@anonymous16472 2060
with 2x8 corsair ram at 2666 i have okay max fps but get ATROCIOUS frame dips in any cpu intensive games
I use i3 10100 and it's still a really good processor to me
same here
its basically a 7700k which is still solid
I suspect this little cpu and for its price will become a little legend. It is clear that Intel was directly competing with AMD here in providing up till then unheard of price to performance. Time will tell, but from what I am seeing I am impressed and see no need of an upgrade for average budget gamers/workstations the next few years from this. This chip can punch far beyond its weight in terms of not bottlenecking mid range gpus. Pairing it with discounted tinkering boards (which will happen as news gens are released) gives the ability to bring in some 6cores/12threads later (11600s). True, you will not have access to some features, but in the main this platform (while not as relevant OR PRICEY) as the 12/13th gens, still has some legs.
And now there is also the 13500 and 13600K. I do play fallout 4 a little bit (full hd) and do video cut in full hd with davinci resolve.. u think the 12400 is enough for my needs? I will keep my GPU which is a Sapphire RX 570 8GB.
Got it for my gf build and paired it with a second hand rx 580 por like 150 bucks.
Whole build costed less than 400 euros and runs every game released until now (most of them at high settings)
12100f + 3070 rocks in my SFF build. Great little cpu :)
Is 16GB enough for your build?
@@aerohk yep, just finished starfield 😉
The bigger shared L3 cache on the i5 probably makes more difference than the extra cores. That is what I will base my next CPU purchase on. You can overclock the locked i5's and i3's with the right motherboards. I'm considering the ROG strix B660.
WHY PAY 250....FOR AN OVERPRICED MOBO...caps. put that in cheap mobo plus i5 i7
In some games yes but most of the time clock speed difference. Depending on the mobo you can oc the i3, mine runs at 4.9ghz
4 cores are just a pain in 2022 and I can say from personal use. I used an i3-10100 and it really didn't satisfy my needs in eSports games like valorant even with an RX 570, and when i streamed my gameplay to my friends on discord it took a bigger hit. Switched to an i5-11400 and I'm so much happier right now.
Switched to i5 was a pretty bad idea. Even i3-10100 can do some serious stuffs. All you had to do was overclock it. Simple, it takes maybe 5 minutes to overclock it. From something 4GHz all the way up to 4,7. Even i'm using 11 or 12 years old CPU i7 2600, instead of buying a whole new system, for me it's better to take it simpler and cheaper. I don't want to spend much, so i can buy i7 3770K with good heatsink, that will cost around 90€ than obviously what else can you do with unlocked cpu? Yes, OC. 4,9GHz all cores all threads and i'm good to go. When you don't have needs playing at 4K 120FPS or 1440p 240FPS, 1080p60Fps is enough, for me it is better go with 3770K and some good heat sink instead of buying new system for like 500€
@@samohraje2433 who asked
@@samohraje2433 i3 10100 doesn’t over lock 🤡
Overclock
@@randomshorts739 yes with crap mobo yeah.
guys I'm finally upgrading from my FX-9590 based system! I haven't updated my core system since 2013 and I'm excited to see how the i3-12100f is against my old hardware!
Oh my goodness your face is probably going to get melted from the performance gains lol
@@ChrisPBacon9 oh yeah it's pretty wild. So much faster, and COOLER! my room is no longer 5-7.c above ambient in the other room lol!
It is so rare to see bloggers who know how good the fan placed under graphic card is for the card's temps
Yeah........ an i3 will get the job done if you have a RX 6600, but for literally anything other than 1080p gaming you're gonna need more cores and more threads. There is a reason they make the CPU's that have as high performance that they have. It's because technology is growing and we need better hardware to handle more data. If everyone had an i3 12100 most people would be more than fine, but mid-range GPUs and production workers will need many more cores and threads.
Try things like BF2042 or even Cyberpunk but not in the benchmark but in Dogtown. You'll want 6+ cores.
I was considering the 12100f, but when I saw a good deal on the 12400f at a local website, I didn't hesitate to buy it, and not too mention it is future proofing, but if an individual is on a budget, go for the 12100 or 12100f
i3 12100f is 107usd / i5 12400f is 167, who worth it?
@@mahvel2381 a 12100f only gets about 5 FPS less than the 12400f, so I'd say go for the i3, prices in my country is always going to be high, because if I change our currency to US Dollars, it will be 197 USD for the i5, our import costs is absolute madness, but if you're on a budget and want a CPU that is a true budget king, supports Both DDR4 and DDR5 and supports PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 go for the i3, as it will infact last a couple of years.
@@WolfmanFoxtrot in my country we can order from amazon free shipping and need less 200usd for no tax included, im from asia.
@@mahvel2381 wow which country
I picked up an optiplex 7020 mt for 150$ upgraded ram from 8 to 16 for 50$ then put a rx 580 in there for 200$ in total 400$ and pretty damn solid
Specs after upgrades :
i5-4590
16 gb ddr3 ram
Rx 580 4gb vram
Don't know what the power supply is but it's probably not incredible
One of the best per for dollars that I've seen
what I could do with $400.
All things created by him for him. to him be all the glory.
Couldn't agree more... I see so many people going out to buy $2000 PCs with Core i9s in them, and then they only use them to play games and that's it, and I'm just like "...why??" Not to mention that the 7 and 9 tier cpus from AMD and Intel are advertised as 'the best gaming CPUs', and while yes, that is 'technically true', it's barely any different in games from something like a core i3. Like I absolutely get it if you're a content creator or someone who does intense work, but the intensive work in games comes from graphics, not CPU instructions
But if you pair an i3/3600 with a 3070 & above GPUs, you are losing anywhere from 30-40% performance because the cpu is bottlenecking the GPUs. While I agree i9 and the 5800 X3D are completely unnecessary for gaming only, the 3600/i3 also leaves no room for upgrade. The sweet spot for Gaming when it comes to CPU is the mid tiers.
I can attest to the new gens being too overpowered to warrant paying more unless it is for heavily multi core demanding tasks. The new i3 and ryze 5 entries are so overpowered that the different /$ is measly and unjustified.
Get a job.
@@malcolmjelani3588 go see a mental health care specialist.
10320 is a great 4 core that can boost to 4.6 GHz. It’s a great gaming CPU.
Now succesor I3 12300 MONSTER
@@Antonio_Sosa99 yes but you need a new motherboard which are expensive.
@@JayzBeerz motherboard under 100$ is expensive?
@@stunna1226 no good b660 or z690 boards are under 100 bucks only cheap garbage boards are for poor people.
@@stunna1226 Yes.
i3 10105F here! Gaming Perfectly!! 😄
what gpu do you have?
@@xJauhh rx 6600
I used an i3-10100f for a year or two, it was fantastic for the games I played (Warzone, Rocket League, Witcher 3, to name the most demanding).
I had an i7 5500u, it worked as bad as an i3 6th gen, at 2 cores 4 threads
was a life-saver. Thanks a lot.
GPU utilisation seemed a bit low on fortnite?
I have an i3 9100f paired with a GTX 1080 with 16GB RAM. Games run just fine at 1080p, but I do get some stutters, very noticable when gaming and using Discord at the same time. I don't think 4 cores is enough to run modern games with anything running in the background. I will say the i3 is a great way to get started gaming, you can easily upgrade in the future.
I still think that I5 is the better choice because it would allow you to upgrade the GPU again in a few years and handle it without problems where the I3 might create a bottleneck and trust me CPU bottlenecks are not fun, I am speaking from experience
People who decide between these two CPUs realistically won't buy a new 600 bucks graphics card in 3 years.
And if, then you could as well put a new Raptor Lake CPU into that mainboard as well.
People who uses i3 now will not buy a new gpu for the next 2 or 3 years
That's why they buy the i3 becuz they dont have money
I'm gonna build i3 12100 + rx6600 and use it for the nxt 5-6yrs.
@@ult7511 what motherboard and psu you gonna use ? I'm trying to build the same as yours
@@MS10x haven't decide on mobo, but my psu would be seasonic focus gm550 or gx550
I just Picked up an AMD Ryzen 5 5600G for $159.99 at Micro Center but they also sent me a coupon for $25 off any AMD CPU so I showed them that which brought the price down to $134.99 for a Ryzen 5 5600G which has 6-cores. I looked at the i3-1200F but I am not going back to a quad-core CPU, I mean come on it's 2022.
Yeah these guys are stuck 10 years in the past.
Agree
I have found out that the i3 10100f runs pretty much the same frame time as a i5 10400f
It's killing me looking at the one who's not talking when the other is, the hand gestures and nodding is so funny
have the I5 11600K thing is a beast for gaming.
i still use an i5 2400, but will be upgrading to the i7 2700 next week.
Great advice!
13400 will get 4 E-cores.
Hope 14100 will get 4 E-cores as well.
I was hoping to see some 1440p game play as people like myself are slowly evolving from 1080p to 1440p.
i7 4790 gets the job done with older DDR3 RAM!
Until you boot up red dead 2. Stutter fest.
@@portman8909 Im not getting any stuttering on my stock 4790 or my 3770 cpus. Im using an RTX 2060 for the 3770 and a Radeon 6400 for the 4790. If there is stuttering it could be from weaker GPUs using 2GB of gddr5 ram which isn’t enough to support the game, unless game settings are set on low.
Great review love it valuable review
the guy on the left's audio feel like he's underwater
What about for work and productivity? Is the i3 enough?
As long as you don't use second monitor, its more than enough
I need at least i5- Imagine your friends asking what you have in your pc and you say: I have an i3😑
Got a i3 8100 back in the day... Still always go with a i3..
I’ll just use my chrome book from school to play Fortnite just costs 30 dollars to buy from the school.
People who plays VR: that ain't gonna be enough
2:50 you came for this
I like how the 12400F on Apex is barely getting used and the gpu is working it's as off
No one noticed how when one of them are talking the other is just nodding crazily
i agree games only utilize 4 cores so even in the more cpu intensive games its still holds up.
A lot of games are utilizing 6 or more cores now.
@@sacredbeats5080 really!? i didn't know that. I do still think it holds up well tho because even in more demanding benchmarks its still is pretty good.
Oh yeah it’s definitely a great chip. Was just saying games do use more cores now.
Well not all of us have gaming computers or computers to start with
I'm really tight on budget so i opted for i312100f + rtx 3050. My purpose is gaming preferably single player aaa games. Is that okay?
In performance 6600 is better than 3050 but in dlss and ray tracing 3050 killed the 6600...
@@wemotivate281 it's priced approx $30 extra here
@@wemotivate281 no one upscale for performance in 1080p gaming... They are just the fluff for marketing, overrated as heck.
@@kftd2385 thanks for that.. thumbs up
might as well consider 2060
The i3-13100F costs €125. 2 years ago I paid €130 for my i5-10400F. So the new i3s have taken the place of i5s. Which means there are no real budget i3 CPUs under €100 anymore. Dont see how thats a good thing.
well if i want to buy a 5000 dollar computer im getting a core i9
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But its justified by the GPU I guess....like just an idiot would put an i3 with a 3080
@@ISAGAARBO98 yeah
@@ISAGAARBO98 And a idiot would put a gen 12 i9 with a GT 710.
@@OldManPhil yes
Hello! Nice to see a new vid
Would you recommend the i3 12100f over the R5 5500? I am slightly leaning toward the 12100f as it seems like it would have a better upgrade path since the 5500 is already technically “out of date” and they are fairly similar in performance.
I've just made the decision to buy the i3 12100f based on that logic, the upgrade path is better with Intel CPUs. Choose a good motherboard and you're covered for the next years.
Crazy that Seth Rogen started doing youtube reviews
still rocking a i5 4570 and rx 570 on one build lol. Esports all day no problem
Upgrade the i5 to a xeon e3 1231 v3. double the threads of your i5 for about $30-40
I have a question which cpu is better with rtx3060 ti core i3 12100f or a ryzen
I agree that the majority of people's needs are meet by 8 threads or 6 cores. My target is a minimum fps of 144. I play planetside2, a 4 thread cpu limited game. Factorio, a memory speed limited game, and star citizen an 8 thread cpu limited game. I got a 12600k and processLasso to force discord, teamspeak, and firefox to have permanent affinity to the efficiency cores.
you play star citizen consistently? I mean, is that even payable? I remember it being referred to as "scam citizens" by very well known reviewers and all over reddit
@@khaledp4922 Yes I play star citizen every week and have participated in a 50 player 700km car race across the desert.
@@shufadragon cool, so I'm guessing it's in a playable state now
"target is a minimum fps of 144"
lol.
@@NoobieDoobieDo What? i.imgur.com/w3Hd4OB.png
Should I change from i7 6700 to i3 12100 ?
The i3 is just not it anymore 😭
It's true. These are all cut down versions of the i9, and games don't use that many threads. Put the money in a gpu, and go with the i5 (or i3).
I hear you, but…won’t a higher-end gpu be bottlenecked by a ‘lower’ cpu, especially in terms of future-proofing?
It STILL sounds like a bunch of obscure numbers. Is it really that far above my head? It just can't be that incomprehensible. (how big is the universe?)
And eSports.....who saw that coming. Sure you can get an I3 but should you? 2-3 years down the road has you wanting an upgrade where as I5 to I7 has longer lasting performance over time better value.
I have a PC and a Laptop. I use I PC only for gaming and the laptop for discord, TH-cam etc. So I can do both things at once.
ok im gonna buy a 12100f with a 4090
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High settings sounds super neat until you consider it's just 1080 high. What's a real stress test look like?
Anyone looking for 2k or 4k experience on their 60 inch flatscreen should invest min 1 grand on their build and stop skimping on their cpu . If you can’t afford that then get a better job or appreciate the 1080p which is amazing on normal monitors
@@GovindaA i mean, higher resolution would drop the framerates and actually alleviate stress from the cpu and shift the bottleneck to the gpu. Thats probably why they tested at 1080p
Just got myself a new pc with an i3 12100 I got it with budget and upgradability in mind. I know it will do what I need for now, but if I feel like I need an upgrade I can get any of the newer cpus and experience a cheap upgrade without having to buy a new pc
What problems do u face excluding the gaming ones
@vnkpardeshi9934 honestly after some months of use and experience with an i5 12400f as well, I have had no problems with the i3 12100f.
It actually FEELS faster than my i5 12400f when doing basic windows tasks. I've got nothing but good things to say about the i3 12100f
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@@MrAnjelorion hello no reply?
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my friend laugh at me because I want to build my gaming PC with intel core i3 10gen pair with rtx 3050. But my target is 60 fps not 100+ fps, I think you don't need to buy high end cpu if you only want 60fps at 1080p.
low end cpu works great for 4k gaming
@@slumy8195 4k with 60fps?
@@zuhairi7 yes. 4k all you need is a 3080 or 6800.
2:53 of course i happen to look at the bottom right corner
investing for ryzen 5 4600h a year ago has been awesome for me, I got to use vmware without any issues
Dell Vostro 3020 : 13th Gen Intel® Core™ i3-13100 Genuine Win11+ Genuine MSO 21 8 GB, 1 TB SSD Integrated Wired KB & MOUSE McAfee® 15M
Everything depends on gpu and resolution and now some games too
I got my i3 12100 for 98 bucks for my budget build. Is works fine for now.
You need to go with i5 + , the BF 2042 with 128 players runs very bad with the i3 12100F.
Is i3 9100 good?
You really need to start measuring average FPS and 1% Low FPS aswell.
And throw in some charts after showing a game to show the numbers to the viewer.
I know this :) my very budget rig is i3 10100f and gtx 1660 super for fhd 75hz.
😍 the more-affordable i3 CPU
I've been gaming for many years, and I only use Intel i3 (except for the 10th gen)...those who look down on i3 are snobs who either haven't really tried i3s and are quick to judge blindly, or, they just have waaaaay too much money to spend on rigs, looking for XXX FPS, that the human eye could barely make a difference of. Playing side by side with my i3 12100 + rtx 2060s gpu and my cousin's i5 11400 + rtx 3060 gpu, my FPS is like 15-20 less than his, but I'd say, I can't see a freakin' difference!
If you don't do any multi-tasking while gaming, or don't play while working, then the i3 will suffice.
why is one of the mics soooo bad, dark and muffled
I had an i3 9100f and it was great for gaming. It was cheap too, and it ran fantastic
maybe if you try to run 1440p ultra@ranmaniax2
@ranmaniax2 Oh that's a good thing because that game sucks and nobody cares
built my dad a matx pc and he has a i3 11th gen that is equaly as good if not better than my laptops i7 10th gen and his i3 only cost £70 3.6ghz to 4.6ghz boost my i7 runs at 2.8ghz to 4.8ghz
matx case with 300w psu
msi motherboard
8gb ddr4 2666
1tb nvme crucial 3.0
2gb gtx730
£270
me watching this with a 5900x..
I5 for the win. Actually I just find this family always reliable.
Good luck finding cheap lga1700 for this to pair up with.
I just can not fathom how intel wants their user to update their mobo's for every year
I just bought asrock h610m motherboard and i3 12100f for 230€ and the mobo was just 110€ and cheapest one that supported 1700 was just under 100€ so id say it is a reasonably low price. I just needed a cpu that can handle esports games at a good 144+ fps so paying 230€ to upgrade my mobo and processor isnt bad imo
My i3 10105 f is surfing beautifuly with my new rx 6600
Heck, Intel just doing things right now. AMD gotta sneak behind 'em later this year.
you don't need more than a ryzen AM4 ... you know why!!
This was a great video.
I using 12100f and
it is monster processor, price to performance
rtx3050
i5 9400f
Asus b310 Mobo
cooler master 600w
sdd 120gb
HDD 500gb
got all this for $200 excluding n GPU for $150
all used but perfectly working as new🙋💯
how?
i had an i3 2100 (2nd gen) and upgraded to i5 2500 ... There was a raw performance difference (considering advantage of Turbo Boost), but now it's only confusion in new gens..
the i5 2500 did a great job. It pretty much never was problem in my gaming other than my GPUs..
My i3 worked for me like an i7..Because I was gaming with this for 2 years almost everyday. I have to say is i3 is way better of an option than buying a Pentium considering Hyperthreading feature as well. But I would usually try my best for an i7 or minimum i5 so I dn't have to worry about a cpu upgrade for a while..
Bro its not about the FPS its about the cores, if your gaming and doing other stuff you will suffer with an i3
I3 is like an entry level the i5-K is the best gaming spot
which one is better Core i5 10400f or core i3 12100f?????
You guys have so many pcs and gpu’s can I just have a gtx 1650 or Somthin
All I like to game on is i3 and i5 5th or 7th gen. Runs any thing I like.
but they did not try to reveal the performance of 12600k on rx 6500 Here is a video card test
i do NOT recommend getting an I3 or any other low tier CPU, I myself trusted people saying to go for an I3 back in 2017(i3 8100) and i regretted it a lot in the future, ill make some points.
1. the i3 will lock gpu possibilities, so no possibilities to upgrade in the future with newer and better price performance.
2. if the GPU struggles in a game you just have to turn down settings, if the CPU struggles it's a stutter mess and no setting can help you.
3. with a higher tier cpu you will have a better time while using your machine for longer(notice how you see a lot of people with old gen i7s(4770k) around but never old gen i3)
"In the future"...ofcourse it is. because you shouldn't really pair it with a system that's meant for 8k or something. There's no future proofing, a lie. The competition between tech companies proved that and eventually a high end or least very capable ones will be obsolete a few gens later.