I train in Kali which is primarily a knife based art so this is a cheap and easy way for me to make trainers instead if buying them. Thanks for the smart and clever idea. I haven't seen anyone wale using a cutting board.
+Justin Tatum No problem, glad you found it useful. The cutting board idea was given to me by a fellow "combatives enthusiast" so I thought I'd pass it on. Enjoy!
This is actually a pretty decent way to do it. I salute your ingenious sir. The cutting board is thick enough to the point where the knife wont bend and is strong enough so It wont shatter. I would use this for combat training but not in sparring because the firmness of the knife and I wouldn't want to injure my partner. If you're looking for a decent sparring blade look at Cold steel's training knives. I bought mine for 7$ free shipping and its the best trainer on the market. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE MONEY!!!!!!!$$$$$ (I am not being paid to advertised cold steel) But still, these cutting board knives would be a fun do it yourself project. Thank you sir.
Thanks and yes, these are not for hard contact. If you're looking for good hard contact training knives that wont flex as bad as the Cold Steel ones, check out Nok Knives (noktrainingknives.webs.com/)
I actually did the exact same thing as this vid except for a self defense tool. I sharpened it in the shape of a punch knife so now I have a non metallic tool. Not super sharp but it’s good for puncturing things. That’s a good idea to make training knives like this
That knife will work bud...people incarcerated make a knife worst than the one your talking about. I think im gonna do the same for a non metallic tool.
instead of saying "yeah you can use a hacksaw blade but you don't need a hacksaw, just the blade, but im gonna use a jig saw..." he actually used the hacksaw blade. legend
Oliver P Well it is a cutting board designed to stop a knife from cutting through it, sooo... I'd definitely go will a hacksaw blade. I guess you could use a knife and cut a V channel in from one side and then the other, but it'd be tedious and a complete waste of time in my opinion when hacksaw blades are so cheap and easy to get.
If you don't have a hole-saw big enough to just drill the hole, then first mark your ring. Then, using a smaller drill bit, drill touching holes along the inside perimeter of the ring until you've drill out the hole. Then once again use sandpaper to clean everything up. You can wrap the sandpaper around a dowel rod to help with sanding inside the ring.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing this video and idea though! You really saved me 20 bucks and now I can make trainers for all my knifes without having to purchase them online. :)
This doesn't strike me as an extremely safe training knife. I'm pretty sure it won't cut, but if you hit a vulnerable point, like the throat, or an eye, this could do some serious damage. I think it'd be a good idea to tape the edges and point up really good to cushion any impact. I've been in pretty intense training with knifes; my martial arts instructor has us simulate realistic knife fights, so literally anything goes. We can kick, punch, elbow, head-smash, knee, choke, whatever. I've been hit hard enough by a *rubber* training knife to draw blood, so I'd be careful using that on another person.
No need to tape really, the 'edge' is the same thickness as the handle and if properly sanded and rounded, it poses little chance of a injury (provided you take common sense precautions). And yeah, if you target the soft areas of the human body you can pretty much do damage with anything. Even a Nok Hard Contact Training Knife (which is stiff foam over a wooden core) will hurt with a hit the eye, groin, throat. Or a rubber trainging knife like you said. If you're training full force on force, you're gonna get hurt at some point, it's a matter of physics. Doesn't make a difference what kind of training knife you use. That said I wouldn't necessarily recommend these for full speed force on force for that very reason, BUT that does mean they're not good training knives for there intended purpose. If you're that worried about these training knives, then I hope you're taping pillows to your hands and feet too...
***** Well, depending on the "style" a person practices with knives, this might be useful. For those of the people who want to practice precision strikes to various areas of the body, this might work. I'm personally of the opinion that knife fight training should always be as realistic as possible, since when a real knife is in question, there are no *hard* areas on the human body; the knife will do damage anywhere. Taking that into account, I think that, taking your cutting board idea, the plastic could be substituted with something softer, like high density foam, or some kind of rubber or latex. Making a full-contact training knife is always a good idea.
Oh I agree that force on force is the most realistic and beneficial training. But you don't just start there, or people's technique tend to break down and they revert to just flailing about. You build up to it, these trainers I show how to make are more for that build up period where you're practicing your fundamentals at slower speeds or at less then full contact. For full contact, a Nok Trainer along with wearing protecting gear (cup, paintball mask, etc.) would be a better idea. You could just wrap one of these in a foam rubber to achieve a similar construction as the Nok for a fraction of the price. I actually have some good dense foam lying around, perhaps I'll do a video...
***** That's great; I'll have a look at that. I'm not extremely worried about technique, because, when it's crunch time, and you are actually called to use a knife on another human being, your technique will probably suck. For instance, I'd rather to train TO hit sensitive areas with a knife; I don't especially care how I hit them. Technique isn't so important when you're in the process of defending your life. Based on my experience, you don't have to be especially skilled, or even used to holding, a knife to use it effectively. It's an automatic tool for opening someone's body. I would say, and this is my unqualified, unprofessional opinion, but based on experience, that no matter your skill level, contact training can be, and may best be done, with soft training knives. If people are concerned with technique, they should work up to it using full contact from their technique's inception. That'll wire them to use the knife however they need to, without teaching them to pull their punch.
Barrett Nichols Technique breakdown does happen to even those that train extensively in their respective 'art', but I believe it goes back to what and how they train. I'm not a huge fan of traditional martial arts because of this. They teach too much material and in real conflict the mind becomes overwhelmed with what strike/block to use and where to apply it. I with you on attacking soft spots. I'm a big fan of the less is more mentality of Fairbairn's WWII combatives and more modernly adapted 'gutter fighting'. Meeting violence with greater violence and fewer but more substantial strikes to vital areas that are gross motor skills and easily executed even under duress. ... though, now I'm wandering from the original topic of training knives... and the above is of course just my unprofessional opinion on the subject (sure someone will jump on me now for talking bad about traditional martial arts, haha). I'll see about putting together a video on using the polymer trainer I show in this video as the core for a soft trainer, might be a little while though.
I used a drill. I didn't have a hole-saw big enough to just drill the hole, so I used a smaller 1/4" bit and drilled lots of little touching holes around the inside edge of where I marked for the ring. That removed the bulk of the material, then I used a file to clean up the inside of the ring, and finally some sandpaper to finish it.
I train in Kali which is primarily a knife based art so this is a cheap and easy way for me to make trainers instead if buying them. Thanks for the smart and clever idea. I haven't seen anyone wale using a cutting board.
+Justin Tatum No problem, glad you found it useful. The cutting board idea was given to me by a fellow "combatives enthusiast" so I thought I'd pass it on. Enjoy!
This is actually a pretty decent way to do it. I salute your ingenious sir. The cutting board is thick enough to the point where the knife wont bend and is strong enough so It wont shatter. I would use this for combat training but not in sparring because the firmness of the knife and I wouldn't want to injure my partner. If you're looking for a decent sparring blade look at Cold steel's training knives. I bought mine for 7$ free shipping and its the best trainer on the market. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE MONEY!!!!!!!$$$$$ (I am not being paid to advertised cold steel) But still, these cutting board knives would be a fun do it yourself project. Thank you sir.
Thanks and yes, these are not for hard contact. If you're looking for good hard contact training knives that wont flex as bad as the Cold Steel ones, check out Nok Knives (noktrainingknives.webs.com/)
I can't wait to try this. Many thanks for sharing.
+bluedogguy No problem, thanks for watching!
I actually did the exact same thing as this vid except for a self defense tool. I sharpened it in the shape of a punch knife so now I have a non metallic tool. Not super sharp but it’s good for puncturing things. That’s a good idea to make training knives like this
That knife will work bud...people incarcerated make a knife worst than the one your talking about. I think im gonna do the same for a non metallic tool.
Awesome video, just what I needed
That is one great idea... thanks...
That's a clever idea bud. Thx for sharing
Thanks for the video this was pretty smart because the cutting board is pretty strong and it will last a long time.
instead of saying "yeah you can use a hacksaw blade but you don't need a hacksaw, just the blade, but im gonna use a jig saw..." he actually used the hacksaw blade. legend
Very nice idea! thanks!
No problem, thanks for watching!
I'm definitely doing this
How you make the hole in karambit?
Is it possible to just use a normal knife on the cutting, or do i need a hacksaw blade?
Oliver P Well it is a cutting board designed to stop a knife from cutting through it, sooo... I'd definitely go will a hacksaw blade.
I guess you could use a knife and cut a V channel in from one side and then the other, but it'd be tedious and a complete waste of time in my opinion when hacksaw blades are so cheap and easy to get.
how bout the rings? how to make those rings like in the karambit?
If you don't have a hole-saw big enough to just drill the hole, then first mark your ring. Then, using a smaller drill bit, drill touching holes along the inside perimeter of the ring until you've drill out the hole. Then once again use sandpaper to clean everything up. You can wrap the sandpaper around a dowel rod to help with sanding inside the ring.
You are genius!
I can't take all the credit, the idea was given to me by a friend on a forum that was kind enough to share it.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing this video and idea though! You really saved me 20 bucks and now I can make trainers for all my knifes without having to purchase them online. :)
Glad I could help! It's exactly why I put videos out.
This doesn't strike me as an extremely safe training knife. I'm pretty sure it won't cut, but if you hit a vulnerable point, like the throat, or an eye, this could do some serious damage. I think it'd be a good idea to tape the edges and point up really good to cushion any impact. I've been in pretty intense training with knifes; my martial arts instructor has us simulate realistic knife fights, so literally anything goes. We can kick, punch, elbow, head-smash, knee, choke, whatever. I've been hit hard enough by a *rubber* training knife to draw blood, so I'd be careful using that on another person.
No need to tape really, the 'edge' is the same thickness as the handle and if properly sanded and rounded, it poses little chance of a injury (provided you take common sense precautions).
And yeah, if you target the soft areas of the human body you can pretty much do damage with anything. Even a Nok Hard Contact Training Knife (which is stiff foam over a wooden core) will hurt with a hit the eye, groin, throat. Or a rubber trainging knife like you said. If you're training full force on force, you're gonna get hurt at some point, it's a matter of physics. Doesn't make a difference what kind of training knife you use. That said I wouldn't necessarily recommend these for full speed force on force for that very reason, BUT that does mean they're not good training knives for there intended purpose.
If you're that worried about these training knives, then I hope you're taping pillows to your hands and feet too...
***** Well, depending on the "style" a person practices with knives, this might be useful. For those of the people who want to practice precision strikes to various areas of the body, this might work. I'm personally of the opinion that knife fight training should always be as realistic as possible, since when a real knife is in question, there are no *hard* areas on the human body; the knife will do damage anywhere.
Taking that into account, I think that, taking your cutting board idea, the plastic could be substituted with something softer, like high density foam, or some kind of rubber or latex. Making a full-contact training knife is always a good idea.
Oh I agree that force on force is the most realistic and beneficial training. But you don't just start there, or people's technique tend to break down and they revert to just flailing about. You build up to it, these trainers I show how to make are more for that build up period where you're practicing your fundamentals at slower speeds or at less then full contact.
For full contact, a Nok Trainer along with wearing protecting gear (cup, paintball mask, etc.) would be a better idea. You could just wrap one of these in a foam rubber to achieve a similar construction as the Nok for a fraction of the price.
I actually have some good dense foam lying around, perhaps I'll do a video...
***** That's great; I'll have a look at that. I'm not extremely worried about technique, because, when it's crunch time, and you are actually called to use a knife on another human being, your technique will probably suck. For instance, I'd rather to train TO hit sensitive areas with a knife; I don't especially care how I hit them. Technique isn't so important when you're in the process of defending your life. Based on my experience, you don't have to be especially skilled, or even used to holding, a knife to use it effectively. It's an automatic tool for opening someone's body.
I would say, and this is my unqualified, unprofessional opinion, but based on experience, that no matter your skill level, contact training can be, and may best be done, with soft training knives. If people are concerned with technique, they should work up to it using full contact from their technique's inception. That'll wire them to use the knife however they need to, without teaching them to pull their punch.
Barrett Nichols
Technique breakdown does happen to even those that train extensively in their respective 'art', but I believe it goes back to what and how they train. I'm not a huge fan of traditional martial arts because of this. They teach too much material and in real conflict the mind becomes overwhelmed with what strike/block to use and where to apply it.
I with you on attacking soft spots. I'm a big fan of the less is more mentality of Fairbairn's WWII combatives and more modernly adapted 'gutter fighting'. Meeting violence with greater violence and fewer but more substantial strikes to vital areas that are gross motor skills and easily executed even under duress.
... though, now I'm wandering from the original topic of training knives... and the above is of course just my unprofessional opinion on the subject (sure someone will jump on me now for talking bad about traditional martial arts, haha).
I'll see about putting together a video on using the polymer trainer I show in this video as the core for a soft trainer, might be a little while though.
Dollar store cutting board..2 dollar project
How you make the hole in karambit?
I used a drill. I didn't have a hole-saw big enough to just drill the hole, so I used a smaller 1/4" bit and drilled lots of little touching holes around the inside edge of where I marked for the ring. That removed the bulk of the material, then I used a file to clean up the inside of the ring, and finally some sandpaper to finish it.
thx,i guess that you use drill :)