You can get the newest Look 785 Huez. Soon to be released for that money. I think Time ADH is priced somewhat similar too. Or, if you’re really lucky, Spesh have been clearing out their frames and you can find SL7 and Aethos around that price range.
@@ariffau rcr better bike than all of those, its legit one of the best bikes in the world non sworks sl7 frames are 3000€, rcr competes directly with sworks sl7 spec for spec
@@invisiblescout6335 it’s only the best bike in the world if it’s available at every Decathlon store in the world 🤣 Currently it’s more of a unicorn for most people.
As an ex-Decathlon employee who worked in the cycling department and was about to become a product trainer within the Uk, I have nothing bad to say about the the UK product trainers. However most store managers dont care about the cycling departments as they dont make enough money. So they dont send staff on training due to the cost of it, I had to force them to send me on the trainings. A very small amount of staff have ever seen electronic groupsets. Most members of the workshops wouldn't know how to cut the brake hoses and rebleed brakes. Decathlon Uk has a long way to go to be able to break into the high end bike market and I saw the company loose some very good members of staff due to store managers having what I can only call ego battles. I hope decathlon changes but it will need to get rid of individuals who dont see the bigger picture
That's weird I have a friend who worked in a decathlon repair center in France and they were well trained, I guess they make more money with bikes in France
I worked at germanys biggest store in berlin. same as in the UK. no training, bad managers, and subsequently very poor building and maintenance of bikes, some of them very unsafe. being interested in bikes was enough to get employed. no trainings ever
I was really impressed with the van Rysel when I got to keep it for a month. It without a doubt felt like the mainstream bikes without breaking the bank
@@andyc9187 This bike was never meant to be affordable. When you're looking for affordable you should not be looking for top end groupset. Even the cheapest one in this video with SRAM Rival AXS is not really a budget groupset.
Even tho i currently ride an Cannondale, Decathlon Bikes (especially the Triban ones) will always have an special place in my heart. i started cycling during an time where i didnt really earn much money at all. if it wouldnt have been for decathlon i probably wouldnt even had started this hobby/lifestyle and found something completely else to do instead, who knows i might would have ended up as an Tennis player or someone that just goes to the gym lmao.
I'm still riding a B'twin (Decathlon predecessor brand before van rysel) FC700 frames that I bought online from Decathlon France back in 2014. It's the same frame that sylvain cazati of AG2R rode to victory in a stage of the 2006 TdF. It cost me 300 euros...Decathlon has always had some fantastic bargains lurking on ther websites
I snagged a B'Twin Ultra CF 900 for MYR 2,500, approx Euro 600 in 2021, just before lockdown in Malaysia. Carbon Frame, Shimano 105, Mavic Aksium, 9.2kgs in size M. Not a single creak in all those years. Best money I've spent.
Thanks for the info guys. I hope you get their "EDR" bike to review. The importance of this video is the revelation that Decathlon really offers high value-per-dollar across their entire range.
My friend works for the marketing department in EU Decathlon and his opinion is that because of import tariffs, Decathlon would probably not be able to compete with local sporting stores
@@TuanAnhNguyen-qp6uc Which of course is the whole point of said tariffs. Not to get into a trade policy discussion, but so much for fReE tRaDe AmErIcA, lol.
Most of Cycling-TH-cam seems to be ignoring Cube Bikes... the litening Air is retailing for under 8000 EUR with DuraAce and Powermeter and claimed 6,6kg
Guys i bought the van rysel edr af off of facebook last summer locally for £300 !!!!! the guy before me had bought it on a cycle to work scheme he obviously bought the wrong bike for commuting, standard for £1500 it comes with ultegra r8000 fulcrum r400 wheelset hutchinson fusion 5 tyres, i absolutely love the bike its faultless and it was my gateway from gravel to road for £300, incredible value. i think even at £1500 this bike is a fantastic value bike for any newbie to road cycling, too many people buy way more than they need because of social media and bike envy 👍🏼
Same for me with a BTWIN Ultra 700 AF from 2016. Got it for 500 euros and with new wheels and cockpit it's a good bike for the money and as a first road bike.
@@Tom-hp4bqhe had past his driving test and not used the bike for months, it was originally on for £500 then dropped to 400 then 300, funny thing was he tried to advertise the bike on some facebook cycling pages but they wouldnt accept it as he was told no one buys those bikes 😂😂😂
I've been riding the GCR, their new gravel bike for more than half a year now, no problems at all. 2500€ (bought it on clearance) for a SRAM Rival AXS full carbon gravel bike is astronomical value for money.
Keep in mind those are not the regular GP5000 "S TR" tire -- they're the "AS" (all season) variant, which is a little tougher and slightly higher rolling resistance.
I have the EDR frame with 105 and it is EXCELLENT, best bike I have ever had. Fast, stiff, well balanced and very comfortable to ride. Good enough to win almost everytime the sprint on the Satruday ride, including mates with bikes 5 times more expensive (i.e., Tarmac SL8).
I live in Melbourne and The Deacthlon over here is nothing like the Decathlon over there. The Epping store used to be big and a decdent selection (not many bikes though); however, they decided to section off over two thrids of the warehouse for storage. You don't see many high-end Decathlon bikes here.
Long and low is fine. Plenty of people want that. I think the original confusion was based around the fact that the sizes seem to be named inappropriately, as you mention. Seems like a killer deal and the team is having a good year so far. I do miss the brown shorts, though.
Enjoyed that review, I’m sure the Pro team will help raise perceptions of these in the eyes of buyers aspiring to brands like Specialized etc in the next few years. BTW a world with 12k bikes is just crazy 😂
Thanks, Francis and Jimi, for creating some more buzz about this bike. And 'aero lite' sounds right for a frame in the middle of those categories. I look forward to more about this brand and perhaps an interview with Van. 😀
An interesting and honest review. It looks like a very strong proposition at that price point, and specced Ultegra Di2, it's relatively affordable. I think I'd still go Canyon though, as the XL is only rated to 196cm, and I'm a bit beyond that. Canyons are great for us overly tall folks.
I can’t believe that people are so ignorant about decathlon on their bikes. Decathlon have made across the range high and low tear bikes for about a decade now, when I came across them in 2014 they were already making high-level bikes and we’re doing to all different designs Decathlon are my first stop when I’m buying a new bike
I have bought their EDR alu frame rim brakes bike second hand off of eBay for 900€(new costs 1400€) with an Ultegra 11 speed mechanical groupset and I am absolutely loving it. Decathlon offers such good bikes for a fraction of money compared to others.
On the topic of the EDR bike. The sizing is a bit off, but overall it is a truly great bike (I have the EDR 105 CF Disk - carbon frame on full hydraulic 105 groupset). The issue is the availability and warranty claims. Mine developed a slight issue which might be paint only and carbon related, the customer support/service said that it is good for a replacement - awesome, couldn't be happier. I left the bike with them at the beginning of December, they ordered a new frameset. It arrived three weeks later - but also had a flaw, so they ordered another one, that was supposed to arrive mid-January. Then it was moved to the end of January. Then to the end of February. Then March. When the March date came, the person from the bike service decided that it might be easier to try and get a complete new bike - I was very happy. It was supposed to arrive at the end of February, but it is now moved to mid-April. The website also says it's not available. What good is the fact that the bike is great (it's a bit long and racey, but got me comfortably through a 280km day in the saddle no problem, and I am not a 20yo 60kg athlete, far from it) if it is not available and nobody can say when it actually will be? This is really bad, as I think Van Rysel is one of the best value bike equipment available...only it doesn't practically exist (in terms of bikes)...
Great video. I wear the Van Rysel clothing and its quality at great prices. Not surprised this bike got a great review. Possibly other brands are charging too much?
Can confirm that Decathlon exist in Australia. Not available in all states, but they have a store 20 min walk from where I live. (and they have tended to have a much smaller range of bikes here compared to Europe)
I have a EDF Cf ultragra, with Zipp 303 firecrest and 30mm tyres... It's absolutely a killer bike for an endurace bike at about only 7.4 kg with so much confort ! I'm really looking forward a V2 of this EDR !!
looks cool. A couple of my friends have decathlon bikes and love their bikes. I know it's not the same thing most of us still fall in love with the bikes we can afford.
As a owner of a edr cf 105 i been saying if Decathlon hide all the wires through the steam like Merida Scultura/Aurum or go fully integrated even with mechanical 105 the bike will be a killer option. Take the ultegra version out and put better those wheels into the 105 and complete dominate the comp in that range of price... And much better if they take a 105 di2 version of it, doesn't care if the price goes up a little bit, the change will be worth it.
Ive bought a carbon EDR with mechanical 105 for 2200€ back in September last year, and it is an awesome bike with unbeatable value for money. You should review the EDR model 😊
Both my bikes are from decathlon. My commuter / winter bike is an triban 3 and the other is a Mach 700 which is about ten years old and still going strong. 700 notes on the cycle to work scheme back then with 105 everywhere except the chain rings. Bargain. Glad to see they are getting a bit of love now as I used to take absolute pelters from the snobs out on the high end bikes.
I get unreasonably excited about the release of videos. That aside I’d probably be more interested in an endurance bike also. But what about a gravel/endurance racer?? I find the endurance bikes have narrow tire clearances.
Great review guys.. Could you review the Decathlon Triban titanium gravel bike? Would be great if Decathlon sold the titanium gravel frameset separately..😁
Re: "test rides", when I bought my RC120 18 months ago, they wouldn't let me test ride it outside in the car park, but were very happy to let me bomb up and down the aisles inside to get an idea of fit!
If they’d updated the EDR frames to at least 32 tire clearance, that would be awesome. Not sure how endurance frame with 28 tire clearance stacks up these days.
the bike is great. i guess my next bike could be a van rysel. what a good price. currently im riding the top of the line felt AR FRD bike which is also just dreamy.
As of march 2024, the rollout of these new products on stores has been appalling (in Portugal at least). My local decathlon is the largest in the country and they haven’t and don’t plan on getting any of the new stuff, the bike, the helmet, the sunglasses, the shoes, in store, only available for online purchase, which to me defeats the whole point of decathlon
Smallest size still has 378.3 reach, which is basically Tarmac size 50ish. A lot of smaller women riders are going to struggle with that. Tarmac has a size 44 for that exact reason.
Van Rysel NCR CF SRAM Rival review please? 😅😅 Even though this is supposed to be endurance it's the longest and lowest ever frame I've seen in this category and sometimes even racier than some race bikes
I have an EDR Ultegra disc, mechanical and it is perfect. Corners on rails, weight is fine, needs no upgrades whatsoever. However, they are now shifting the whole range onto 12 speed electronic, it seems, even at the lower end. Which is also fine, but costs more and the weight goes up a smidgeon. I also have the RCX in its previous incarnation (GRX one by 11). That was great but the wheels were no good and I had to shift to proper fulcrum rather than the pretty awful OEM ones they sold those bikes with. The new RCX is a one by 12 speed SRAM Apex electronic. It is 500 euros more than the old one. I like my RCX a lot however. Also a very light bike that handles beautifully. When buying from the range, at the bottom end, it is worth considering the equipment specifications. For 500-700€ above basement, you will get "proper" wheels, handlebars and stem, and seat post (non OEM versions, and carbon in some cases). These are things you will often end up changing and doing so will often cost you more than the price difference in the first place. Another level above, you will get fully, aero-integrated stuff.
I guess the worry for some would be how well is it going to be put together, ultimately Decathlon need to sell a functionally safe bike and I'd like to think that the current mechanics would provide that service. I'd also like to hope that the type of racer this bike would appeal to would consider taking it to a local specialist bike shop for either a full service or tune up / bike fit service for piece of mind. Say you factor in £200 or £250 for a major service at a highly qualified LBS then the bike you get is still great value, you also support the local shop as well as a major sports chain.
As much as I love the look of racebikes, my 53 year old frame cannot handle them. Just looking at how high your knees rise I was aching. What crank length were you on? My LBS has a 60% discount on Trek Madone gen6 SLR frameset but I know it would never get used. Sticking with my Domane but might get an MTB coz also on sale, albeit on 30% discounted, still...
So when will the RCR PRO frame only be ready for the USA, and when will the TEAM spec bike be ready for the USA. I don't see it currently on the website.
Being 200cm tall with a 96cm inseam the XL is still I little to small for me. Wanting to spend around ¢4500, I still have to go Aeroad SLX rival/105di2 in XXL.
Van Rysel's current EDRs have a tiny 28 mm tyre clearance, low stack, and oversized handlebars with ridiculous 90 mm reach and 140 drop. I'm hoping new version of the frame (will there be one?) is better.
Probably the giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 sl AXS is best comparsion as they both targeting budget end of top end bikes. Giant is probably a better race pedigree. Be interesting to see a side by side comparison
I own the EDR AF 105 and it's a nice bike. The handlebar though is too wide and has a too big reach+drop for me at least. So some bike fitting might be required by most buyers.
I heard that top tube in RCR Pro is very thin (0,7mm) so it's very fragile and flexy. Some people find little cracks on top tube. What do You think about it?
I feel that the advice of looking at top tube length may be more misleading than helpful. My medium somewhat aggressive road bike has a 20mm shorter "effective top tube" than my medium gravel bike, but frame reach is actually 1cm more. Also the amount of stem spacers each manufacturer ships with their bikes seems to have much more effect on stack than whatever the geometry chart says.
It's not that cheap if you compare it against other budget options ridden in the world tour. The Cube Lightning which is Intermarché-Wanty-Goberts Aero Bike with full SRAM Red comes in at 7300€.
Reach is more imporant than effective top tube length. Two bikes may have different ways of going about behind the bottom bracket. One may have a 73 seat tube angle and 0 offset post and another, a 74.5 seat tube angle and 15 offset post. The latter bike's effective top tube will be 15mm or so shorter but it doesnt mean its a smaller bike (if they have the same reach). Please talk to James about this and inform clients rightly. Just like the centre of the headtube, infront of the bb, the centre of the seatpost clamp is important behind the bb and the two have to be achieved independently. I am only tying because you are close to 300k subscribers and should be better informed about what you say as what you say influences many a bike purchase.
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Actually, Van Rysel is not the cheapest bike in the pro peloton. There are two pretty significantly cheaper bicycles and still in top-end spec with dura-ace and deep section carbon wheels: Cube Litening Aero C:68X SLT (Intermarche Wanty) costs 7600 eur (6 495 £) and Dare VSRu Iridiscent Dura Ace Di2 (Uno X) costs only 6990 eur (5 975 £).
From perusing the geo charts (which are in the product photo galleries for anyone who struggles to find it) it seems like the endurance geo is actually longer (+2mm reach, same stack) for the size L. Might be a shorter stem, but I don't know if Jimmy is going to be satisfied with that. Might be better in the smaller sizes?
It's a very good looking bike. It ticks all the boxes if you compare with the big manufactures. My only complaint is that some of their bikes are spec with hookless carbon wheels. I think that's a bad move from Decathlon. I used to ride Zipp 404 hookless road, until I started seeing some big failures in the pro tour. I felt anxious riding it on descents. I kept waiting for the tire to blow off the rim. It's silly I know. However, the thought of having a failure was always in the back of my mind. I have now transferred the 404s to my gravel bike. It looks really bad 😂, but I dont think about it any more.
hey guys, first of all: great format! I currently have a VR RCR Pro at home, and I think it's really one of the best value for price bikes out there (and not a Canyon Aeroad like 90% of the bikes, haha). They only thing that bothers me massively, is the fact that they use a different cockpit (actually it's a stem and classic bar, also from Deda), even for their top bike. And to put it nicely, I think it's terrible... do you have any knowledge if the AG2R mono-cockpit will be available at some point? Because I'm not sure if I want to ride the bike with the current specs. Maybe you can ask Decathlon directly? Thanks a lot, Cheers
Speaking of Decathlon's bike, one you could also try for being a very good money value is their GRVL900 gravel bike. Titanium frameset, GRX600 groupset and RapidRed wheels for around 3000€.
I just want to know if we will be able to get framesets in the U.S. and what the price would be. Seriously, forget about whether or not there are stores or infrastructure to build and service the bikes. Just let us order frames. They could sell so many at that price point.
What sunglasses are you wearing in the video, not the van rysel ones but the ones that are photochromatic and have the bit that looks like maybe a sensor on top. I know you showed them in a mail box video a while ago but I can’t remember which one. Thank you! Love the content!
Numbers are way more relevant to understand the size of Bikes. I would never buy a "L" pair of shoes. Also : in terms of fitting, five measures are enough (those that give you the reach and stack) : virtual top tube length, head tube length, leaning angle of the head tube, leaning angle of the seat tube, BB drop. You can add the fork steerer maximum height, but it will most likely be around 6 cm from the head tube to the top, since it's a matter of safety. All the other measurements are linked to aesthetics, aerodynamics, comfort and handling.
8:47 30g per axle is mind blowing gooooood! Well, there’re 30g per pair of thru axles from Overfast but they are 220 bucks per pair and are made of carbon 😂
The only major problem with the Van Rysel RCR and RCR Pro is that Decaltlon is currenlty unable to provide. These bikes have been out of stock from the beginning they were annouced.
That is quite common with their higher-end gear. It doesn't become available for months and often when it is available it can not be found in any store to be tried, you have to buy it online.
This bikes look great. I was debating buying a chinese frame (maybe elves) and put higher end components on it instead of a entry level mainstream brand with entry level components. But if the new endurance bike is as good as this new racing bike I might choose van rysel instead. They might kill 2 markets in one go. What a power moove by Decathlon
I was ready to pull the trigger on a FCR Ultegra DI2 for 4200€ but they was always sold out. Got myself a Elves Falath Evo frameset/wheels/handlebar for 1700€ instead. Paired it with a 105 DI2, some GP5000 ST R and Assioma Power meter pedals. For a Total of 3500€. Have over 1000km on it since November and still lovin it.
How comfy is the bike, compared to other racing bikes? The SuperSix Evo is supposed to be pretty nice. I heard that the RCR Pro is maybe a bit too stiff.
Nice job guys, and thanks for all the info. And thank you decathlon for destroying the field we the normal people needed it 💪💪💪 enough of the 15000€ bikes
I looked at the geometry of the Van Rysel EDR CF and it's still quite agressive for an Endurance frame. It's a bit too agressive for me which is a shame, because it seems like it's great value.
Hi I have said this before I have a triban 5 btwin full sora triple 9 speed and to be honest it has served me so well I have done 120+miles in a day several times and still ride it when my carbon bike is getting serviced lol to be honest I probably go faster on it then my carbon bike lol but ita not 11 Speed and weight slightly more not by much 1.3kg 😁 decathlon make a good bike and I also use the carbon btwin shoes only thing I have against them is they need a slightly wider fitment.
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2500€ for the frameset should actually be an absolutely KILLER deal. A better SL7 for waaaay less. The ag2r boys absolutely love it
You can get the newest Look 785 Huez. Soon to be released for that money.
I think Time ADH is priced somewhat similar too.
Or, if you’re really lucky, Spesh have been clearing out their frames and you can find SL7 and Aethos around that price range.
Next comment you can see ex-decathlon employee saying that UK shops don't know how to bleed brakes. That's what you would pay for with specialized.
@@ariffau rcr better bike than all of those, its legit one of the best bikes in the world
non sworks sl7 frames are 3000€, rcr competes directly with sworks sl7 spec for spec
@@shimona500 good thing I'm talking about the frame then isn't it?
@@invisiblescout6335 it’s only the best bike in the world if it’s available at every Decathlon store in the world 🤣
Currently it’s more of a unicorn for most people.
As an ex-Decathlon employee who worked in the cycling department and was about to become a product trainer within the Uk, I have nothing bad to say about the the UK product trainers. However most store managers dont care about the cycling departments as they dont make enough money. So they dont send staff on training due to the cost of it, I had to force them to send me on the trainings. A very small amount of staff have ever seen electronic groupsets. Most members of the workshops wouldn't know how to cut the brake hoses and rebleed brakes. Decathlon Uk has a long way to go to be able to break into the high end bike market and I saw the company loose some very good members of staff due to store managers having what I can only call ego battles. I hope decathlon changes but it will need to get rid of individuals who dont see the bigger picture
That's weird I have a friend who worked in a decathlon repair center in France and they were well trained, I guess they make more money with bikes in France
@@wargaroth yep decathlon France had way more resources, decathlon in Europe is 100x better
I worked at germanys biggest store in berlin. same as in the UK. no training, bad managers, and subsequently very poor building and maintenance of bikes, some of them very unsafe.
being interested in bikes was enough to get employed. no trainings ever
Yep. Decathlon Avignon is my fave shop!
Cycling and climbing and hiking and training gear.
I hear you dude.
I was really impressed with the van Rysel when I got to keep it for a month. It without a doubt felt like the mainstream bikes without breaking the bank
Would you know when the rcr pro will be available in the market?
I really hope this will also push larger brand to follow their step of making bike affordable again or at least "friendlier" price tag
8.5k Euros is not affordable!
yea but still good step, knowing decathlon they will trickle down this frame @@andyc9187
@@andyc9187 This bike was never meant to be affordable. When you're looking for affordable you should not be looking for top end groupset. Even the cheapest one in this video with SRAM Rival AXS is not really a budget groupset.
Yes please please please get ahold of that Endurance frame! Would love to see a video on it.
Even tho i currently ride an Cannondale, Decathlon Bikes (especially the Triban ones) will always have an special place in my heart. i started cycling during an time where i didnt really earn much money at all. if it wouldnt have been for decathlon i probably wouldnt even had started this hobby/lifestyle and found something completely else to do instead, who knows i might would have ended up as an Tennis player or someone that just goes to the gym lmao.
I'm still riding a B'twin (Decathlon predecessor brand before van rysel) FC700 frames that I bought online from Decathlon France back in 2014. It's the same frame that sylvain cazati of AG2R rode to victory in a stage of the 2006 TdF. It cost me 300 euros...Decathlon has always had some fantastic bargains lurking on ther websites
I snagged a B'Twin Ultra CF 900 for MYR 2,500, approx Euro 600 in 2021, just before lockdown in Malaysia. Carbon Frame, Shimano 105, Mavic Aksium, 9.2kgs in size M. Not a single creak in all those years. Best money I've spent.
@@humble1091That’s a real bargain. I paid €1100 for the same bike in aluminum.
Thanks for the info guys. I hope you get their "EDR" bike to review. The importance of this video is the revelation that Decathlon really offers high value-per-dollar across their entire range.
You have to raise your hat to Decathlon, they are really opening up access to all levels of Cycling. Chapeau.
Cube Lightning with Dura Ace at 7600€ maybe? Last year (or year before?) everyone was saying all same things about it as about Van Rysel now.
I would love to see Decathlon come into the US market in a big way....would be great to see them shake things up.
My friend works for the marketing department in EU Decathlon and his opinion is that because of import tariffs, Decathlon would probably not be able to compete with local sporting stores
@@TuanAnhNguyen-qp6uc Which of course is the whole point of said tariffs. Not to get into a trade policy discussion, but so much for fReE tRaDe AmErIcA, lol.
Canyon eventually got established in the US, no reason why Decathlon couldn’t get the bikes into some general stores
Decathlon was in the US but exited recently
Most of Cycling-TH-cam seems to be ignoring Cube Bikes... the litening Air is retailing for under 8000 EUR with DuraAce and Powermeter and claimed 6,6kg
ssssh 🤫
Under 8000...wow. I am going to buy three.
German Brand „Rose“ also sells a race bike with DuraAce Di2 which weighs 6,9kg for under 8000€ right now it is even reduced to 7000€
Can't get in Canada. Used to have a German girlfriend who bought her Cube mountain bike over here. That's the only time I've seen one.
Same goes for the Dare bikes that Uno-x has been riding, think the top end Dura-Ace is 7000 EUR.
Really hope Decathlon makes the new bikes and accessories available in Australia one day!
Guys i bought the van rysel edr af off of facebook last summer locally for £300 !!!!! the guy before me had bought it on a cycle to work scheme he obviously bought the wrong bike for commuting, standard for £1500 it comes with ultegra r8000 fulcrum r400 wheelset hutchinson fusion 5 tyres, i absolutely love the bike its faultless and it was my gateway from gravel to road for £300, incredible value. i think even at £1500 this bike is a fantastic value bike for any newbie to road cycling, too many people buy way more than they need because of social media and bike envy 👍🏼
Same for me with a BTWIN Ultra 700 AF from 2016.
Got it for 500 euros and with new wheels and cockpit it's a good bike for the money and as a first road bike.
Why did he sell it for such a low price?
@@Tom-hp4bqhe had past his driving test and not used the bike for months, it was originally on for £500 then dropped to 400 then 300, funny thing was he tried to advertise the bike on some facebook cycling pages but they wouldnt accept it as he was told no one buys those bikes 😂😂😂
I've been riding the GCR, their new gravel bike for more than half a year now, no problems at all.
2500€ (bought it on clearance) for a SRAM Rival AXS full carbon gravel bike is astronomical value for money.
Keep in mind those are not the regular GP5000 "S TR" tire -- they're the "AS" (all season) variant, which is a little tougher and slightly higher rolling resistance.
I have the EDR frame with 105 and it is EXCELLENT, best bike I have ever had. Fast, stiff, well balanced and very comfortable to ride. Good enough to win almost everytime the sprint on the Satruday ride, including mates with bikes 5 times more expensive (i.e., Tarmac SL8).
I live in Melbourne and The Deacthlon over here is nothing like the Decathlon over there. The Epping store used to be big and a decdent selection (not many bikes though); however, they decided to section off over two thrids of the warehouse for storage. You don't see many high-end Decathlon bikes here.
The ag2r boys are killing it on this bike, its seems to have reinvigorated them. Me like.
The Cube Litninig Aero C:68X SLT is about 7599 € and it is a Tour de France bike
Long and low is fine. Plenty of people want that. I think the original confusion was based around the fact that the sizes seem to be named inappropriately, as you mention.
Seems like a killer deal and the team is having a good year so far. I do miss the brown shorts, though.
I’m getting my SRAM force version this coming week. Cannot wait 🙌🏻
Enjoyed that review, I’m sure the Pro team will help raise perceptions of these in the eyes of buyers aspiring to brands like Specialized etc in the next few years. BTW a world with 12k bikes is just crazy 😂
Thanks, Francis and Jimi, for creating some more buzz about this bike. And 'aero lite' sounds right for a frame in the middle of those categories. I look forward to more about this brand and perhaps an interview with Van. 😀
I can’t get over the fact that a 5’10” rider fits best on a XS frame.
Who are these sizes even for?
5'10"... in the morning's and 5'02" in the afternoon's
That is a symbol. Go by metrics like reach stack seat tube angle and seat post offset. What the size is named doesnt matter.
An interesting and honest review. It looks like a very strong proposition at that price point, and specced Ultegra Di2, it's relatively affordable.
I think I'd still go Canyon though, as the XL is only rated to 196cm, and I'm a bit beyond that. Canyons are great for us overly tall folks.
I can’t believe that people are so ignorant about decathlon on their bikes. Decathlon have made across the range high and low tear bikes for about a decade now, when I came across them in 2014 they were already making high-level bikes and we’re doing to all different designs
Decathlon are my first stop when I’m buying a new bike
If I were looking for a bike, that second tier SRAM would certainly be in the running!
I have bought their EDR alu frame rim brakes bike second hand off of eBay for 900€(new costs 1400€) with an Ultegra 11 speed mechanical groupset and I am absolutely loving it. Decathlon offers such good bikes for a fraction of money compared to others.
On the topic of the EDR bike. The sizing is a bit off, but overall it is a truly great bike (I have the EDR 105 CF Disk - carbon frame on full hydraulic 105 groupset). The issue is the availability and warranty claims. Mine developed a slight issue which might be paint only and carbon related, the customer support/service said that it is good for a replacement - awesome, couldn't be happier. I left the bike with them at the beginning of December, they ordered a new frameset. It arrived three weeks later - but also had a flaw, so they ordered another one, that was supposed to arrive mid-January. Then it was moved to the end of January. Then to the end of February. Then March. When the March date came, the person from the bike service decided that it might be easier to try and get a complete new bike - I was very happy. It was supposed to arrive at the end of February, but it is now moved to mid-April. The website also says it's not available.
What good is the fact that the bike is great (it's a bit long and racey, but got me comfortably through a 280km day in the saddle no problem, and I am not a 20yo 60kg athlete, far from it) if it is not available and nobody can say when it actually will be?
This is really bad, as I think Van Rysel is one of the best value bike equipment available...only it doesn't practically exist (in terms of bikes)...
Classic Francis video. Love it
Great video. I wear the Van Rysel clothing and its quality at great prices. Not surprised this bike got a great review. Possibly other brands are charging too much?
Can confirm that Decathlon exist in Australia. Not available in all states, but they have a store 20 min walk from where I live. (and they have tended to have a much smaller range of bikes here compared to Europe)
I have a EDF Cf ultragra, with Zipp 303 firecrest and 30mm tyres... It's absolutely a killer bike for an endurace bike at about only 7.4 kg with so much confort ! I'm really looking forward a V2 of this EDR !!
Van Rysel... cheers to big success! I like what I see!
looks cool. A couple of my friends have decathlon bikes and love their bikes. I know it's not the same thing most of us still fall in love with the bikes we can afford.
As a owner of a edr cf 105 i been saying if Decathlon hide all the wires through the steam like Merida Scultura/Aurum or go fully integrated even with mechanical 105 the bike will be a killer option. Take the ultegra version out and put better those wheels into the 105 and complete dominate the comp in that range of price... And much better if they take a 105 di2 version of it, doesn't care if the price goes up a little bit, the change will be worth it.
Di2 is evil.
Ive bought a carbon EDR with mechanical 105 for 2200€ back in September last year, and it is an awesome bike with unbeatable value for money. You should review the EDR model 😊
Both my bikes are from decathlon. My commuter / winter bike is an triban 3 and the other is a Mach 700 which is about ten years old and still going strong. 700 notes on the cycle to work scheme back then with 105 everywhere except the chain rings. Bargain.
Glad to see they are getting a bit of love now as I used to take absolute pelters from the snobs out on the high end bikes.
I get unreasonably excited about the release of videos. That aside I’d probably be more interested in an endurance bike also. But what about a gravel/endurance racer?? I find the endurance bikes have narrow tire clearances.
Hey nice vid! Could you potentially review the triban rc120 and rc 520 gravel? (both sram and 105 groupset)
Great review guys.. Could you review the Decathlon Triban titanium gravel bike? Would be great if Decathlon sold the titanium gravel frameset separately..😁
Brilliant I'd buy a frame if they did it in a rim brake version
Prefer the £400 reviews but each to their own, still getting a thumbs up
Re: "test rides", when I bought my RC120 18 months ago, they wouldn't let me test ride it outside in the car park, but were very happy to let me bomb up and down the aisles inside to get an idea of fit!
If they’d updated the EDR frames to at least 32 tire clearance, that would be awesome. Not sure how endurance frame with 28 tire clearance stacks up these days.
Im really interested in their pro time trial bikes. Any news on that?
Hey Jimmi, Australian here, Decathlon have a store near me in the suburb of Epping, Melbourne, called Decathlon 🙂
5'10"! are you sure Francis?
the bike is great. i guess my next bike could be a van rysel. what a good price. currently im riding the top of the line felt AR FRD bike which is also just dreamy.
As of march 2024, the rollout of these new products on stores has been appalling (in Portugal at least). My local decathlon is the largest in the country and they haven’t and don’t plan on getting any of the new stuff, the bike, the helmet, the sunglasses, the shoes, in store, only available for online purchase, which to me defeats the whole point of decathlon
Smallest size still has 378.3 reach, which is basically Tarmac size 50ish. A lot of smaller women riders are going to struggle with that. Tarmac has a size 44 for that exact reason.
Van Rysel NCR CF SRAM Rival review please? 😅😅
Even though this is supposed to be endurance it's the longest and lowest ever frame I've seen in this category and sometimes even racier than some race bikes
Have a look at the NCR
I think the Cube Litening is more close to the VanRysel than the Canyon
I have an EDR Ultegra disc, mechanical and it is perfect. Corners on rails, weight is fine, needs no upgrades whatsoever. However, they are now shifting the whole range onto 12 speed electronic, it seems, even at the lower end. Which is also fine, but costs more and the weight goes up a smidgeon. I also have the RCX in its previous incarnation (GRX one by 11). That was great but the wheels were no good and I had to shift to proper fulcrum rather than the pretty awful OEM ones they sold those bikes with. The new RCX is a one by 12 speed SRAM Apex electronic. It is 500 euros more than the old one. I like my RCX a lot however. Also a very light bike that handles beautifully.
When buying from the range, at the bottom end, it is worth considering the equipment specifications. For 500-700€ above basement, you will get "proper" wheels, handlebars and stem, and seat post (non OEM versions, and carbon in some cases). These are things you will often end up changing and doing so will often cost you more than the price difference in the first place. Another level above, you will get fully, aero-integrated stuff.
I guess the worry for some would be how well is it going to be put together, ultimately Decathlon need to sell a functionally safe bike and I'd like to think that the current mechanics would provide that service.
I'd also like to hope that the type of racer this bike would appeal to would consider taking it to a local specialist bike shop for either a full service or tune up / bike fit service for piece of mind. Say you factor in £200 or £250 for a major service at a highly qualified LBS then the bike you get is still great value, you also support the local shop as well as a major sports chain.
As much as I love the look of racebikes, my 53 year old frame cannot handle them. Just looking at how high your knees rise I was aching. What crank length were you on? My LBS has a 60% discount on Trek Madone gen6 SLR frameset but I know it would never get used. Sticking with my Domane but might get an MTB coz also on sale, albeit on 30% discounted, still...
So when will the RCR PRO frame only be ready for the USA, and when will the TEAM spec bike be ready for the USA. I don't see it currently on the website.
Hi, I notice you mentioned that you are riding a size XS frame. May I ask what's your height and in-seam ?
Being 200cm tall with a 96cm inseam the XL is still I little to small for me. Wanting to spend around ¢4500, I still have to go Aeroad SLX rival/105di2 in XXL.
Aerolight is literally the name of one of the models from BH Bikes :)
Van Rysel's current EDRs have a tiny 28 mm tyre clearance, low stack, and oversized handlebars with ridiculous 90 mm reach and 140 drop. I'm hoping new version of the frame (will there be one?) is better.
Probably the giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 sl AXS is best comparsion as they both targeting budget end of top end bikes. Giant is probably a better race pedigree. Be interesting to see a side by side comparison
I own the EDR AF 105 and it's a nice bike. The handlebar though is too wide and has a too big reach+drop for me at least. So some bike fitting might be required by most buyers.
good to see you Francis, helmet looks great
I am excited about the van resell helmet and glasses! those look awesome, but they aren't available on the US website
I heard that top tube in RCR Pro is very thin (0,7mm) so it's very fragile and flexy. Some people find little cracks on top tube. What do You think about it?
I feel that the advice of looking at top tube length may be more misleading than helpful. My medium somewhat aggressive road bike has a 20mm shorter "effective top tube" than my medium gravel bike, but frame reach is actually 1cm more. Also the amount of stem spacers each manufacturer ships with their bikes seems to have much more effect on stack than whatever the geometry chart says.
I would love for you to test the van Rysel NCR CF Tiagra. Hydraulic disc brakes, carbon frame,
It's not that cheap if you compare it against other budget options ridden in the world tour. The Cube Lightning which is Intermarché-Wanty-Goberts Aero Bike with full SRAM Red comes in at 7300€.
Great and informative video, as always. Especially liked the way that you both blew kisses to everyone at the end.😘🤪😂
Reach is more imporant than effective top tube length. Two bikes may have different ways of going about behind the bottom bracket. One may have a 73 seat tube angle and 0 offset post and another, a 74.5 seat tube angle and 15 offset post. The latter bike's effective top tube will be 15mm or so shorter but it doesnt mean its a smaller bike (if they have the same reach). Please talk to James about this and inform clients rightly. Just like the centre of the headtube, infront of the bb, the centre of the seatpost clamp is important behind the bb and the two have to be achieved independently. I am only tying because you are close to 300k subscribers and should be better informed about what you say as what you say influences many a bike purchase.
Actually, Van Rysel is not the cheapest bike in the pro peloton. There are two pretty significantly cheaper bicycles and still in top-end spec with dura-ace and deep section carbon wheels: Cube Litening Aero C:68X SLT (Intermarche Wanty) costs 7600 eur (6 495 £) and Dare VSRu Iridiscent Dura Ace Di2 (Uno X) costs only 6990 eur (5 975 £).
From perusing the geo charts (which are in the product photo galleries for anyone who struggles to find it) it seems like the endurance geo is actually longer (+2mm reach, same stack) for the size L. Might be a shorter stem, but I don't know if Jimmy is going to be satisfied with that. Might be better in the smaller sizes?
It's a very good looking bike. It ticks all the boxes if you compare with the big manufactures. My only complaint is that some of their bikes are spec with hookless carbon wheels. I think that's a bad move from Decathlon. I used to ride Zipp 404 hookless road, until I started seeing some big failures in the pro tour. I felt anxious riding it on descents. I kept waiting for the tire to blow off the rim. It's silly I know. However, the thought of having a failure was always in the back of my mind. I have now transferred the 404s to my gravel bike. It looks really bad 😂, but I dont think about it any more.
Decathlon Has stores here in Australia/Sydney.
HOOKED! Rejoice... but then, SwissSide is a proper wheel maker, no gimmicky bullchit is to be expected.
wait hold on. Even the EDR has 53cm top tube on XS. I thought you meant they fixed the labeling for endurance bikes.
hey guys, first of all: great format!
I currently have a VR RCR Pro at home, and I think it's really one of the best value for price bikes out there (and not a Canyon Aeroad like 90% of the bikes, haha).
They only thing that bothers me massively, is the fact that they use a different cockpit (actually it's a stem and classic bar, also from Deda), even for their top bike. And to put it nicely, I think it's terrible... do you have any knowledge if the AG2R mono-cockpit will be available at some point? Because I'm not sure if I want to ride the bike with the current specs. Maybe you can ask Decathlon directly?
Thanks a lot,
Cheers
Credit to GCN, compared to this, they highlight in their thumbnails that the video is an ad/sponsored before you click on it.
They don't even sell these at Decathlon in Sweden =(
Speaking of Decathlon's bike, one you could also try for being a very good money value is their GRVL900 gravel bike.
Titanium frameset, GRX600 groupset and RapidRed wheels for around 3000€.
even the EDR is quite long and low compared to some of the more modern endurance geometry tbh...
You spot it😜👍
I just want to know if we will be able to get framesets in the U.S. and what the price would be. Seriously, forget about whether or not there are stores or infrastructure to build and service the bikes. Just let us order frames. They could sell so many at that price point.
4200€ for decent aero frame, electric groupset, poweremeter and carbon zipp´s wheelset, Not too baad Decathlon, not too bad
What sunglasses are you wearing in the video, not the van rysel ones but the ones that are photochromatic and have the bit that looks like maybe a sensor on top. I know you showed them in a mail box video a while ago but I can’t remember which one. Thank you! Love the content!
Amazing for the price but Cube has a Dura-Ace top tier bike for less. 7.125 euros on Bike-Discount !
Numbers are way more relevant to understand the size of Bikes. I would never buy a "L" pair of shoes.
Also : in terms of fitting, five measures are enough (those that give you the reach and stack) : virtual top tube length, head tube length, leaning angle of the head tube, leaning angle of the seat tube, BB drop.
You can add the fork steerer maximum height, but it will most likely be around 6 cm from the head tube to the top, since it's a matter of safety.
All the other measurements are linked to aesthetics, aerodynamics, comfort and handling.
The version with the 36cm super aero Integrated Cockpit is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND tho
8:47 30g per axle is mind blowing gooooood!
Well, there’re 30g per pair of thru axles from Overfast but they are 220 bucks per pair and are made of carbon 😂
If they don’t fail😎
Giant Propel !
The only major problem with the Van Rysel RCR and RCR Pro is that Decaltlon is currenlty unable to provide. These bikes have been out of stock from the beginning they were annouced.
That is quite common with their higher-end gear. It doesn't become available for months and often when it is available it can not be found in any store to be tried, you have to buy it online.
This bikes look great. I was debating buying a chinese frame (maybe elves) and put higher end components on it instead of a entry level mainstream brand with entry level components. But if the new endurance bike is as good as this new racing bike I might choose van rysel instead. They might kill 2 markets in one go. What a power moove by Decathlon
I was ready to pull the trigger on a FCR Ultegra DI2 for 4200€ but they was always sold out. Got myself a Elves Falath Evo frameset/wheels/handlebar for 1700€ instead. Paired it with a 105 DI2, some GP5000 ST R and Assioma Power meter pedals. For a Total of 3500€. Have over 1000km on it since November and still lovin it.
How comfy is the bike, compared to other racing bikes? The SuperSix Evo is supposed to be pretty nice. I heard that the RCR Pro is maybe a bit too stiff.
Nice job guys, and thanks for all the info.
And thank you decathlon for destroying the field we the normal people needed it 💪💪💪 enough of the 15000€ bikes
I looked at the geometry of the Van Rysel EDR CF and it's still quite agressive for an Endurance frame. It's a bit too agressive for me which is a shame, because it seems like it's great value.
Hi I have said this before I have a triban 5 btwin full sora triple 9 speed and to be honest it has served me so well I have done 120+miles in a day several times and still ride it when my carbon bike is getting serviced lol to be honest I probably go faster on it then my carbon bike lol but ita not 11 Speed and weight slightly more not by much 1.3kg 😁 decathlon make a good bike and I also use the carbon btwin shoes only thing I have against them is they need a slightly wider fitment.
it is not availible in germany anymore right now
When review decathlon gravel bikes? Thx!