Cate Blanchett Plays Bach: A Breakdown
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- 0:00 Cate Blanchett as Lydia Tár
2:10 Setting the scene
3:26 Bach's C major prelude
5:05 Impression #1: First-Year Piano Student
7:16 Impression #2: Schroeder playing for Lucy
9:48 Impression #3: Glenn Gould
12:15 Actors playing pianists
14:26 Tár's interpretation of Bach
17:54 Heinrich Schenker's Bach analysis
19:18 Philip Ewell's Schenker analysis
21:02 There's a twist
23:41 "It's not a film about result"
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Philip Ewell's article "Music Theory and the White Racial Frame": mtosmt.org/issues/mto.20.26.2...
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Pre-production assistant: Will Storie
Post-production assistant: Robert Fleitz
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At 12:28, Emese should be pronounced Em-esh-eh, not Emeez. Otherwise a very interesting analysis. 👍🏻
It's not em-ih-shay?
@@cynarainman7117 no
Always one of you...
@@cody7889 yeah right, as if it has anything to do with the content... "otherwise a very interesting analysis"
You beat my Hungarian heart to it!
I feel like this isn't talked about enough, but the clarinet player/Berlin board member (Knut) and the veteran cellist Lydia passed over for Olga (Gosia) in the movie are in fact REAL MEMBERS OF THE DRESDEN PHILHARMONIC! Both of them had a substantial amount of lines in the movie, and one would think that they were actors by profession. Imagine my surprise when I saw them in the orchestra in a taped performance of Tchaikovsky's 6th on the DW yt channel. Bravo to the Dresden Phil not only for their playing but for their acting too.
Max's nervousness creating a 9/8 polyrhythm is such an amazing detail
Max's knee is the true musical genius of Tar.
Blanchett is a master actor, so I'm not surprised that these nuances punctuate her performance in 'Tar'. Incredible.
Se quien es 🏆
*actress
You can tell that Cate Blanchett and Nina Hoss are not high-powered musicians, but their approximations are so much better than most movies of this type--and what Blanchett manages to do in this scene is amazing. And so nice that they got Sophie Kauer to really play the Elgar Concerto, having an excellent real cellist as an actor only added to the realism of the movie.
That's kind of how I felt with Margot Robbie's ice skating in I, Tonya. Like, okay! Not bad at all!
I feel like this isn't talked about enough, but the clarinet player/Berlin board member (Knut) and the cellist Lydia passed over for Olga (Gosia) are in fact real members of the Dresden Philharmonic! Bravo to the Dresden Phil not only for their playing but for their acting too.
Blanchett had a standard Melbourne private girls school education in piano, so not surprising she could pull this scene off, but it did make all the difference in these scenes. The interpretations were with the simple (in technique) Bach Well Tempered Clavier #1 in C major, anyone with any formal piano training could do it, no ultra talent about it and it is the first thing any kid learns from their teacher. But it was still of great benefit to have her training in making this scene, made it much more realistic than the standard Hollywood fare where they replace the actor with someone who can actually play the piano and hide the face and the hands!
Nuances and layers she brought to this role was astounding. This Juliard lecture scene was all one shot
As someone who has been a lifelong orchestral musician I loved how this managed to show how it didn’t matter how high, or far, you had gone in music & the profession it always found a way of beating you up, of wounding the ego, of showing the genuine concern & secret pleasure at someone else’s pain while ignoring the fact that your turn would come too. Lydia Tar having to make horrendous decisions about other peoples lives masked as genuine artistic decisions was spot on & the almost obligatory need for naked ambition to be able to succeed. Favorite part- when Lydia attacked the musical thief on stage in concert!
I still cannot believe this masterpiece did not win any Oscar, specially for her performance. The Academy is a joke.
Exactly. 😩. It's a joke 😒
She was robbed
Oscars not what it used to be, along with everything it has become political and hijacked by Twitter hive minds. No way Blanchett lost her deserved Oscar over narrative which Michelle Yeoh had
You’re right, it is. Maybe if we all stop paying attention to them, they’ll go away?
always has been
What I find really impressive is that Cate is able to not only play but talk at the same time! That's a high level of internalisation of the mechanics of piano playing (and something I have difficulty doing).
Incidentally I'd heard that for the Geoffrey Rush "recital" in the café (wasn't it called the Moby Dick?) his hands pretty well approximated the positions and moves for the Bumblebee, but always in the near neighbourhood of the right notes, and the piano was not tampered or silenced. I'd love to hear a raw recording of what he actually played.
This is what I'm saying! Sure the piece is technically easy, but what's impressive/convincing is how casually she's playing it, transforming, it lecturing about it, etc, all without skipping a beat. I can't think of another piano scene like it in Hollywood (English language films at least). It's on par with some of the amazing piano scenes in Bergman and Haneke films.
@@tonebasePiano nobody can do that, or would want to...
Geoffrey Rush didn't actually play the piano in Shine, an Australian Concert Pianist Simon Tedeschi did.
@@MrNurse2511 I specified the scene in the café.
It was a terrific movie - one of my all time favorites. If he wasn't a pianist, he was a damn good actor, because he had me completely fooled.
Hahah it's nice to have a music 'nerd out' session about Lydia Tar's explanation / interpretation of Bach's C Major Prelude. And knowing music nerds like yourself would go to town breaking down frame by frame Cate's performance in that small segment, it's also very helpful to see where those references allude to. Like I didn't know the Peanuts reference and I wasn't familiar with Gould's interpretation of Bach, and also the 'academic nerd arguments' about music theory. Also really nice to point out why Max's leg keeps doing that anxious leg shake thing and what it means: that basically Max is not on the same tempo as Lydia and thus its a clash of ideologies and ego.
I'm definitely for people to appreciate music by master artists as a whole. Even if the master artist wasn't a good person in real life/ their values don't jive with us, if they did amazing music, we all should study why that music is amazing. Vs the counter argument of 'if values of master artist don't jive with me, I'm not willing to listen or care to understand why that music is good.' it just comes off as a very close minded, insular, almost arrogant approach to learning about music. Like Lydia uses the Bach prelude to try to sell Max on why Bach is a genius and his music is good, despite what he thinks. That it honestly is a very simple piece of music, a beginner could play it and it is technically not hard to learn, an expert could play it in different interpretations, but either way, it is a genius piece of writing and it sounds amazing. It emotes so much with so little. But the disappointment comes when Max just goes 'nope, I'm not buying it.' Then of course Lydia didn't want to let it go and then turns into bully mode and berates him and the whole scene ends with Max storming out.
But I suppose it is hard to separate art from artist because it is naturally intertwined. If an artist creates a piece of work, its a piece of their unique DNA and personality that is expressed in that art work. When an actor performs, their unique piece of their soul is expressed through the character. And same goes with writers, chefs, or anyone who creates art. Their thumbprints are what makes their work special. Thus why reputation is so important for these people/ public figures. Because the people who admire their work do naturally put these people on a pedestal and expect them to be mini-gods. 'If these people make amazing art, they surely must be amazing people in order to create such amazing art'. But yeah, people are people. People are not gods, they have their weaknesses too, but they also have pluses too.
The amazing thing about Cate is Cate really gave herself to the character, she really went 200% with the authenticity of selling that Lydia Tar knows her stuff and she is a genius. Thus she enlisted the help of all the music consultants and wanted to get the conducting and the piano playing right and the coolest thing is the music professionals were very impressed and commended her on how great she did it! I mean sure if you want to reeeaallly nitpick, like maybe the conducting felt a bit too strong for that segment of Mahler 5, (I did watch a live performance recently by the Singapore Symphony Orchestra) but then again, it was for dramatic effect and also meant to show that Lydia was more about the theatrics of her performance as a conductor rather than channel music with the orchestra to express Mahler's intent. Like I love film and I love music and I know that somethings have to be heightened for film even if its not accurate in real life.
Well said!
Having seen some Bernstein videos, I found the conducting of Cate's Lydia Tár pretty close to believable as a Bernstein student.
quote: I'm definitely for people to appreciate music by master artists as a whole.
Art is a kind of separation. And we can fight over our favourite clowns. The separation between music and performer started with sheet music and continued with recording. Of course the product can be separated from the performer. We are talking about someone playing Lydia Tar, ie a clown playing an imagined clown!
Now go and do the same: play a clown playing an imagined clown while his product becomes seperated from you.
Now a real circus clown can put off his mask after the performance. But the famous artist can't! And that is the tragedy.
Why do people need clowns, or even great master clowns? And what is this about the moralization of the consumption of the clown?
quote: I'm definitely for people to appreciate music by master artists as a whole.
See when you play some sheetmusic (or venen better: Jazz), then you enter a musical state. That means you seperate your interllectual bullshit from the here and now to get synchronized into the here and now. And you do so alone or with fellow musicians, without there being any edge of a stage or art being present! That process is called integration and it is the opposite of art.
I comment on your comment to a comment on a film, which wants to ellicit commentary, not intergration. That film contains commentary about the mechanics of disintegration. So we see the continued disintegration which claims the idea of art ie the replacement of something yearned for by the product of the clown-industry.
The more people speak about art, the more they are removed from music. But music is simple: join us, shut up and play!
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Thank you for taking the time to express how I feel about that scene and Cate's effort
Your analysis is excellent and Ms. Blanchett’s performance was indeed superb. Thank you.
Thank you for this excellent commentary and dissection of this most amazing scene. And for your insights into Ms. Blanchett's performance and Bach's music. Really enjoyed it!
As a Cate Blanchett fan and a classical music fan, this is so far the most satisfying review of this film that i love. Thank you!
a bit off topic, but your BWV shirt is impeccable
Very helpful both to understand that performing music is somehow not just hitting the notes on a piano in a prescribed way, but also to realize how good an actress Blanchett is with the insight you have provided. Thanks!!
That was one of the most fascinating and probative analyses I have every seen or heard about movies and composers and actors and the interrelationships of all of them. It makes me want to go see Tar this second. Thank you so much for this.
Thoughtful and thoroughly intriguing analysis and commentary on Cate Blanchett’s Tar playing Bach. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for your in-depth breakdown and also the professional editing of your presentation. Appreciated!
This is the best description of Bach's Prelude I have ever come across. Raises so many more questions and demonstrates how to play. This is why the great Pat Metheny says "beside Bach we all suck"
It is all a matter of perspective. I am a better pianist than Bach was...because he never played piano. I am a better Composer than Beethoven was (at the age of 9) and I am a better musician than Mozart was (at the age of 2). There was a point in each of the great composers lives where they were total beginners and didnt know the first thing about music. There was a time when Mozart didnt know where middle C was. There was a point in time where Beethoven couldnt even play an A minor scale. But they learned how. And so can you or anybody else that dedicates every waking hour to mastering the fundamentals of their instrument. Beside 8-year-old-child-Bach, we are all musical savants. It's all a matter of perspective.
Pat recognized Bach as an improvisational master. I think there is a majority of musicians, trying to faithfully execute the notes in their music, who don't even have a hint of this.
@@allenapplewhite Very interesting comment. I enjoy playing music (as my channel's content suggests) and while I do not think I'm "really good" even on my best instrument (bass), I recognize that I am nevertheless able to do really good things at times on all of my instruments. I do what I do in order to try to have those times where other people can enjoy what I do as much as I enjoy doing it.
This is so ridiculously specific and I love it
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This video is pure gold. It has so much work and love in it. I like how you make easy for everyone to understand complex music subjects.
Absolutely brilliant movie. Blanchett provides a master class in acting, and is given a genius script that has so many layers to explore. This video helped me connect some dots on the music and the use of it to elevate Tar's own storyline in it - and the storyline of everyone around her.
Excellent analysis. Thank you for that. It just added a lot more spice to the movie itself.
Fascinating analysis! It brings a whole new level of complexity to an already elaborate scene of the movie. Thanks a lot! Btw, loved your BWV tee.
Ben, you're so good at this! Bravo!
I've been waiting for this video, since it came out.
Thanks, Ben! That was awesome. I have been struggling with that film since I saw it. You have helped me to process it.
This channel is quite enlightening! Enjoyed it! 💙
This analysis of Bach’s music by way of Tar, was utterly absorbing, thank you, and makes me wish I’d seen the movie. It is incredible that she really played it all herself. Loved the Schroder and Lucy bits and Glen Gould❤️🇨🇦
Thankyou- I am not a trained musician so loved your insight and wit
One of the best films I have seen on Music - art - and performance
Great Art / monster artist
A phenomenal script
Great direction
And a phenomenal performance from Cate Blanchet
Pivotal to the Film
It was brilliant!
Cate is a master all the way and she delivered THE performance of 2022... But now I'm terrified of Todd Field. This is an absolute and meticulous masterpiece for contemporary filmmaking. I loved his 2 previous films In The Bedroom and Little Children, but this was an absolute consolidation... Hoping he doesn't wait another 14 years to make another film.
Wow, what an analysis!!! I have just watched the movie. Cate is great. The movie is great. And after this video I just want to watch it again.
Music and film are two of the most precious forms of art to me as well as interpretations, psychological commentary, and anything that questions my own interpretations, beliefs, philosophy, and even personhood.
Tár delivered all those. And so did this video. It was, to me, a much needed awakening for the neglected passions of my soul. It was nice to see a professional geek-out of a film about music and the psyche -- some of the things in this universe I feel passionate about. I thank you for that.
You have just given me yet another reason to Love Cate Blanchett ~ !!! Gotta go look up that movie now 😀😍
Great movie, but I don't understand why love a fake person
@@Marc-13 she is a great actress. When I say I love Cate Blanchett I mean I love her as a performer. Actors are also real people
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 Yeah of course she is a great actor, but not a great person.
@@Marc-13 I don't know her personally obviously, but to state that she is a "fake person" seems a bit much? are you trying to cancel her?
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 Why should I cancel her. This cancel thing is bs.
The Prelude in C is the first piece I learned because I HAD TO. It's simple and so complex; transparent and so full. I still play it now when I need comfort, or to calm and focus my mind.
Excellent music and film analysis!
That was your FIRST PIECE? That is not exactly written for beginners. Sure it is easy to an experienced player, but for someone just being introduced to the piano...it is near impossible. I have never heard of a piano teacher assigning an early intermediate piece as a "first piece" to a beginner. You are either a liar or had an absolutely terrible teacher who had zero understanding of piano pedagogy. Either way...THAT SUCKS.
I love it because it is something I can play at my skill level. When I first learned it I tried playing just the chords formed by the arpeggios. I'm not surprised there's a well known analysis of the piece that does just that.
This is an excellent vid - great analysis
Great analysis, really enjoyed your insights!
Thank you for these quality videos, appreciate you
I loved that scene. Her technique and even the message about the artist. Its great
Awesome video! Loved the 8 vs 9 and Eric Wen’s cameo!!
Great video. I love this prelude. It's a way to find your inner, composer self. Trying to articulate differently like Gould, or even drop this arpeggiaton and invent a new one, change octaves, tonality, instrument, dynamics, anything. It's so versatile in its harmonic composition that it will work anyway you distort it and put yourself in. I love Bach.
This was super interesting! Thank you!! ☺️
Happy we have Tonbase on earth! great Video Ben. Actually a great idea to produce more Videos of piano playing in feature movies! there are a lot of legendary performances!
I'm caught between being Well-Tempered and Ecstacy. :) My attraction toward Bach feels primordial, far from the cerebral engagement Bach invites, perhaps, demands. I love your comments, Ben. I am a Bach lover but not among the cognoscenti, for sure. I listen to Andras Schiff's play and lecture on Bach. I am amused by Gould but not enchanted. When I listen to Schiff, I am enchanted - gone into a universe far more beautiful than anything in my earthly existence. Tonebase is new to me. I plan to learn more. Thank you, Ben, for this clip and my introduction to Tonebase.
How about Bette Davis in "Deception"? Marilyn in "The Seven Year Itch"?
She is a human miracle. And Bach is SUPREME.
Looking forward to watching this movie.
you have to! I went to see it 3 times.
@@jotzu9055 me too watched it 3x in cinema in other country because my country did not screen this film
@@heartheart5543 I saw it in Vienna and there was a special screening/talk with the Austrian editor who mentioned things I didn't see so I might have to go see a 4th time (they joked the movie is basically a horror movie) It's amazing how you see new details every time
@@jotzu9055 yes in 2nd watch i saw detail that i did not see on 1st watch, in 3rd watch i saw detail that i did not see on 1st and 2nd watch
That was an amazingly interesting video, and quite funny too :) thank you!
Fantastic video. This is my favourite channel on TH-cam
This is a GENIUS analysis! Thank you!
I haven't seen Tar yet, but I enjoyed this analysis. Informed, thoughtful and perceptive. Thank you.
This video is so insightful, your explanations are accessible to non-musicians but didn’t not try to water anything down.
Thank you for perspective on the genius of Bach ..and the artistic genius of Kate Blanche …wonderfull 🙏🙏🏿🎩✨🎵
Thanks for this background. I found the movie frustrating yet intriguing. Your explanations only add to this intrigue.
Lol so grateful you did this. This movie ate my insides.
Very insightful, thank you!
I genuinely appreciate that you said the phrase "You're not listening to a piece by Bach, you are listening to a piece by Bach arranged by Glenn Gould." I really enjoyed your video, great detailed analysis of Cate Blanchett's playing. And I absolutely LOVED "Shine!" I drove three hours to a theater in another state to see it because it was released in very limited theaters. Though my two David Helfgott CDs I bought right after seeing the movie I hardly listen to due to the singing. But what an amazing story!
True about Gould. But Bach wrote in an age lacking the piano as we know it, and also conveying much less how to grasp his intentions.
Your use of "the architect of your soul" clip at the end made me burst out laughing. Irony is not dead!!
Very engaging! Funny and interesting. Makes me DEFINITELY want to see Tar. I play this prelude on the organ sometimes as, yes, prelude music in funerals. And on an organ, it really matters that you hold down the two left hand notes while articulating the right hand notes in some way or other. (I usually play them detached, but not staccato).
Wow, what a remarkable breakdown! The nuances you picked up are incredible. The movie was just OK to me, but you added much more interest and respect for what Todd did with this. The level of detail you so brilliantly pointed out really took me by surprise. This was extremely well done.
Another alum here. Nice breakdown (great t-shirt!) and spot on about the complexity of Lydia Tár. Thanks.
Encore! Fun to see your analysis, had no idea of the nuance and sophistication in this film. Also enjoyed your videos on Glenn Gould and what various professionals are willing to say about his interpretations, including the passionate S. Bernstein. Would love to see how you feel that conductors influence soloists, and vice versa. Abbado, L. Bernstein, Szell, etc...
Really like the Glenn Gould silver album on the background!
Bach had twenty children because his organ didn't have any stops.
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those are the kids we know about
Ba dum Ching!
PDQ Bach is my favorite of Bach's illegitimate sons...Peter Schickele is doing some wondrous work unearthing the lost manuscripts!
A case of faded genes
Ben
Wow ! Thankyou. I know you don't have time to read these comments .Mr. Laude you are a hero for taking this film seriously and really seeing and CITING the reasons for taking the film seriously on its OWN TERMS. You are one of the few musicians who can "read" a Film ! How much time did you spend to find the cartoon snippet . Ben Laude has a doctorate in piano performance .! I've been listening to him for years but I didn't know he had done the work ! He is so good once you see his posts you know he is worth listening to him ! Thankyou for taking on this important film which many supposedly intelligent female musicians have spoken out against the film not mining its larger depths only looking at it as a diatribe against women in power ;I think the larger idea is about power's effects on people in general . Wow- shereally did the Glenn Gould staccatto thing . Todd Feid makes life in his movies great directors do this ! And you found the Ibsen snippet . You are something !!! I have always been fascinated by Curtis because both JosefHofmann and Godowsky taught there . I was sohappy to hear Eric Wren talk about what endures in what we produce . The true tragedy of life I believe is people do not take creativity seriously - the viewer will not realize how important what the film is telling us as the young student shakes his leg. Teachers have a great labor to do in changing this . people think exposing people to art is important but the fear is of really educating people . Well most people dont know. I'm 50 and I jut found out that ends of phrases esp. in classical period decrescendos. The problem is education. I really believe there would be less violence if we had the best education possible ;obviously we would also perhaps have fewer dishonest entrepreneurs and republicans . Just a joke : our world's problems aren't that simple .
thanks you for this musical analysis, this movie has so much details to analyze, I'll have to watch it a couple of times
This was a fantastic analysis - I really enjoyed the depth of the film and the level of detail within.
But I know practically nothing about music formally, which I felt deprived me of a degree of understanding. So hearing this really helps me understand it much better.
Thank you very much! :)
Great analysis and interesting insights, but above all, a great film review where I hadn't expected it.
As further evidence of CB playing the piano, her DG album also lists:
Bach, J S: The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I, BWV 846-869
Cate Blanchett (piano), Zethphan Smith-Gneist (speaker), Cate Blanchett (speaker)
Recorded: 2021-10
Recording Venue: James-Simon-Galerie, Berlin
Prelude in C Major, BWV 846
Track length 1:27
Excellent indeed. Thank you.
Thanks for the insights.
I love playing Bach on classical guitar, so much of it is readily transposable/practicable (Lute, Cello, Violin, Keyboard...).
This was a great insight into a movie I enjoyed immensely.
This episode is really gold! And I am always impressed that actors learn actually many so called "jobs" to be as authentic as possible! What a blessing!!
For role in tar, Cate Blanchett learn how to conduct a real orchestra, relearn piano (she stop played piano at age 10), relearn speak german, and learn accordion for 15 or 30 minutes
Thank you for enriching my prior appreciation for "Tar," Blanchett, Bach, and Field! And for your use of levity to tease out some of the layering in this film. I am still reverberating with some of the questions it poses, so I echo what Linus might ask: "Who cares about the Occars?!"
Delightful video. Thanks.
This is such a great reading of the film.
Bach, Mahler 5, talking about music, Blanchett's performance ... can't wait for the TAR movie release finally in Japan May 12th 2023.
Love your T-shirt!
And Kate.....of course!
Very interesting exploration: I want to go and watch the film now.
FYI 'Glen' was how Gould wrote his own name: he said if he wrote two 'n's, he wouldn't be able to stop until he got to three!
Today is March 21 - HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAESTRO BACH, and thank you for your immeasurable contribution to music that has civilized and inspired humankind for over three centuries!
Amazing interpretation
Very interesting video, Ben - thank you!
You are a genius like Lydia Tar. 🎉👏🏻👏🏻
Magnificent performance. Outstanding movie.
I thought it was out of place that Tar would play Bach's C major Prelude in a masterclass. It would be like singing the ABC's at a college level creative writing class. The "clown face" in the script was put there for music nerds like me. lol. Coincidentally this piece is what taught me interpretation and remains a huge turning point in my growth as a student. I play it everyday as a warmup for years, as I'm sure thousands of others do too. Great writing.
Thanks for the comment! If the master class was for pianists, I think the Bach Prelude would have been out of place. But what made sense to me about the choice here was that Tar was making a point about the real meanings of music beneath the surface of the score - so I found was actually effective to choose something everyone knows and everyone has played (from beginners tot Schroeder to Gould) in order to reveal something about it that the students may have missed. It's her way of saying: you dismiss Bach, but have you even grasped the meaning of his simplest composition?
@@tonebasePiano Can any serious musician dismiss Bach, though? I mean, really? Great video. Thank you very much!
@@Jarnagua The piece made sense to me, given the context, but I agree with you that it seems very unlikely that a Julliard student would dismiss Bach and every other cis white male composer out of hand. That particular scene seemed a little forced to me in that regard, but I understand its purpose, and I do like the points she made to counter the student's opinion. It could also be that I'm completely out of touch and that it's a plausible scenario (hopefully not). It's a minor criticism though. I really enjoyed the movie overall.
It was probably the only piece she could play (play, talk and teach). She can act, but this movie was so bad that I don't know why she wasted time and effort on it. The first half hour was all pretension. Makes a musician cringe.
@@marti_flute Haha. I feel the same way about 'Whiplash.' True, this film is all about pretension, but you must admit, the classical music scene is rife with pretension among conductors. Maybe that's why it alludes to Lenny during her breaking moment - he was her role model and "relatively" unpretentious despite his success, talent and fame?
Thank you for 99% of this video, which is penetrating, honest, and enlightening about Bach, Todd Field, Cate Blanchett and many other performers and artists.
"It's practically a requirement for practicing classical musicians to reject ... or otherwise abandon just about all the repertoire they play, on ethical grounds." When you state this at 20:30, I paused the video. People who have attended Curtis in the 80s and 90s, such as myself, may choose to abandon all of the theory they have learned* and still embrace all the repertoire. As a response to Professor Ewell's theory and analysis**, I am embracing today an even larger repertoire of music, and I use analytic tools that are more than sufficient as a professional performer, but which do not depend on fixation on hierarchies vertically integrated into my (or my students') thinking.
(*which I surmise would disturb Dr. Wen, who was not teaching there until after my time)
(**which 'theory and analysis' involve music, culture, and philosophy, as do his Curtis counterpart's)
yes she is the BEST. she doesn't need the Oscar. Oscar needs her.
Bro your Drunkards walk was Great! 😂❤ I've been a Bach Deciple my whole life! Thank you! ❤️
This movie was so well made that as soon as it ended I started it over and watched again. It’s the best film I’ve seen in years.
except that peruvian chant at the beginning.
Thank you very much for this analysis. I enjoyed it. Your explaination of "Bach arranged by Gould" allowed me to have some empathy for his "rapid" interpretation of the BWV 869 fugue.
A real life Schroeder (Yunchan Lim) ended up leading me to your channel and it has enriched my life SO much!! Vielen Danke!! 💚💯🎼🎹🎵🎶🎼🎹🎹🎹🎹
In an age where everyone is just interpreting old masters, I appreciate Gould's daring
When Gould plays, I sit up - and my attention never flags till the last note. He might be the only pianist who does that for me. Especially with Bach.
damn you left it unresolved and now i need to listen to the prelude from beginning to end 😂
Great insights here. There is obviously more to this film than meets the eye on first viewing. With Cate Blanchett acting and playing the piano so brilliantly, it a shame the Concert Master wasn't given as detailed coaching/training on playing & holding the violin !
Wow! Thank you so much for such an informative and interesting video
Really good summary. Thank you.
This was so awesome! Thank you so much for putting this together. Very rare to see an actor actually play an instrument convincingly like this.
cate has played the piano before! there’s a clip of her somewhere from a theater production like idk ten years ago and she’s playing the piano and i was sooo impressed
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This was a fun and insightful analysis to watch! I knew about Gould's approach, but not about Schroeder playing around with Bach before getting back to his beloved Beethoven. I love that he rejects the notion of money as a prime objective over art, and thus preferring, of course, to play for peanuts. wah, wah. :)
Otherwise I feel in general there is a swath of people out there actively seeking to destroy the beauty of the past that at times has been created within an environment of despair, degradation or debauchery. We all have a choice, but to me it's insane to focus on the misery only. I marvel at the miracle of something extraordinary that was achieved despite it all. I've known a few great artists, and there's always a hitch. Wouldn't live with any of them, but I am grateful for what they have made.
thank you for the explanation of 'inner content' of Bach's music. i never touched his music yet, but the interpritatoin part 14:26 gave an amazing insight into the idea of the whole 'track'.
i wish more content discussed the 'messages' of music through its musical details.
it's actually really simple, but most of the 'content' is about technical terms as if the gist is actually there. while technique is only a means to be able to convey something
music is really much more accessible, we just need to see it through the "language of art"
The accordion "apartment for sale" scene kills me every time. I feel like using some slight humor to portray a character clearly unwinding from herself and her reality was really clever and memorable.
great analysis