Beethoven "Moonlight Sonata" Master Class: Seymour Bernstein teaches piano technique
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:42 What pianists can learn from Archimedes
3:29 Pianissimo doesn't mean everything is pianissimo
5:40 What's more important than the Moonlight Sonata?
6:12 Choreographing the sound
9:44 Cut time
13:01 Phrasing the left hand
15:12 Seymour shows how to shift to neutral
20:23 Ben tries to get mystical
23:10 The relaxation myth
28:48 Adding rotation
33:54 Sound is born at the escapement
35:21 Fingering
37:16 There's a war going on
39:04 We performed an MRI on the first measure
41:49 Spending 80 years to build a knuckle bridge
Seymour Bernstein and Ben Laude go deep inside the first three notes of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.
Watch Seymour's lesson on the complete first movement of the Moonlight Sonata: app.tonebase.co/piano/artists...
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Yoda and Luke right here
Kind of :)
I mean, honestly.
"Leverage, you need" 😂
NO WAY😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This had better directing
“Turn to neutral at every moment you can, or you will get injured.” This is sage advice and applies not just to piano, but all of life.
except for driving
@@evilbabaroga saves fuel!
@@minerscale i got triggered for a sec but ur trolling, right? sneaky yt commenters
@@evilbabaroga well, I'm partly troling, but hey if you're hypermiling the hell out of your car you can throw the car in neutral and keep away from the brakes. I've not tried this in real life by virtue of it being seemingly dangerous (well, how dangerous is this actually though? The car is still on, so you still have power breaking and power steering, but no engine breaking).
The point is to reduce rolling resistance on the downhills by physically disconnecting the engine from the wheels, the extra speed you get out can be used to overcome the uphills and save fuel in general. I don't know by how much, but it'd have to surely be measurable. Surely it would have to save whole cents per 100km!
edit: I did some more reading and the savings are certainly dubious, dangerous and also probably illegal, *but* on an old crappy car, *maybe*?
These instructions from Seymour to Ben are some of the greatest moments in video history, imo. The knowledge, the passion, the articulate poetry of his directions are almost transcendent, demonstrating the delicate complexity of a few notes of music at the hands of an artist/performer.
And the love, humor, and respect between these two humans is an added bonus. That this American Musical Treasure is preserved on film for future generations is a great gift. Thanks to all who make these possible.
A 54 year old beginner and I find this mentorship priceless.
Mr Bernstein ability to dissect music is amazing.
yeah right. Oh and - 'dissect' is not the right word. The word you are looking for is 'butcher.'
@@organman52 Care to elaborate?
@@ManWithoutThePants First of all, the entire spectacle is pretentious. Both parties involved. SB makes up everything as he goes along while BL simply complies. The garbage about anatomy is of zero significance. Either we play the piano or we don't. "You know why?"......"Why?".....utterly nauseating. 'Soft' music is 'harder' than 'loud' music? Ridiculous. "The preliminary stroke is the sound itself." Hogwash. Just PLAY the damn piano and LISTEN. "Could I try again?" "No." Absurd. This is a complete FRAUD.
@@organman52 I was wondering the word "butcher", but thanks for clearing out your opinion although I don't agree with all. For example the points about arm and hand movement has a point in general and preparing to next chord etc. Although I would find this kind of teaching irritating where the teacher is stopping you all the time for a smallest mistakes instead of letting the student play or try to soak in the information and play few times. About playing softly is harder I do agree somewhat. For example at least I find it harder to do fast scale or arpeggio runs softly rather than more loudly is harder. But I do agree some of your points though.
@@organman52playing soft is way harder what
If I only had a teacher like Seymour when I was younger - I think I would have never given up on the piano - I wouldn't have cared if he interrupted me 10,000 times - because once you see the wisdom and purpose behind it all, how can you not fall in love with the teaching ?
I was thinking the same. Although I would have probably frustrated him. 😅
Such a treasure to spend a few minutes with Seymour today. We need more content just like this! :)
YESS! more Seymour content... I just finished rewatching the older videos of him from you guys!
Seymour somehow consistently condenses a lifetime of knowledge into 40 mins of pure gold. What a legend… Ben brings it out of him. I takes two to tango. Their tacit affection for each other is palpable and moving…
I so appreciate Seymour's interpretive insights
laughable
I get total zen watching this. Even the lesson is a beautiful performance unto itself.
I was entranced. At 3am I might add.
❤
I'm a professional musician and music teacher. When I first saw this channel I thought it was another SimplyPiano-type thing, but the videos y'all have been putting out with Bernstein and Hamelin are really quite special. A document of the teaching style or even just the musical thought processes of someone who has done music professionally for over seven decades is something musicologists would kill for!
Seymour seems to have that perfect modus for being a mentor. He keeps you on your toes enough without being so overbearing it erases/hampers progress. This was great! Just don't get him started on Gould haaha!
Ben Laude, you do an amazing job being a student. Often times someone being instructed can make things very awkward or not know how to react to criticism, especially with someone as straight shooting and, let's be frank, controversial, as Mr Berstein, but you handle it all wonderfully and put into action his suggestions beautifully.
Yep, kudos!
Hello Seymour, you mentioned escapement making it possible to play very quietly using only half the key's height. I'm a piano tuner-technician with 50 years experience. I initially worked for Steinway, NYC before going it alone in Australia. I've had a great career (I'm part time now with no view to ever retire) and have met (and played duets with) some world-class pianists. I vividly remember explaining the double repetition system to a famous Australian concert pianist. His takeaway was very positive indeed. He said that by having a now full working knowledge of the action and all its modern enhancements, his playing can only improve.
Having watched many of your videos, I know that you have an excellent knowledge of the workings of grand piano action.
Having said that, and to elaborate on your comment about the escapement. Yes, escapement plays the 1st little trick - it's what follows very shortly after that became a game changer - the speed of a repeated note can be extremely fast. But, what's often missed is the fact that a pianist can play a note at minimal volume using the same lever that was designed for fast repetition of a single note. That game changer is called the repetition lever. Grand actions utilise what's called "double repetition. This spring-loaded lever takes over the job of lifting the hammer, rather than the jack that just escaped. The jack is what initially lifts the hammer; after it does so, its job is done until the key involved is raised past that ~halfway point.
Now - pushing the key down very slowly, you can feel the escapement of the jack from under the knuckle (AKA Roller). Keep pushing the key to its limit, then slowly lift until you reach about half height - do not let the key go fully up - then play that note, repeatedly using only the spring-loaded repetition lever with the key never being allowed to be raised past its halfway point. Note that every grand piano's key height - whilst ready to be played by the repetition lever - will vary slightly.
To my knowledge, there still doesn't exist an upright piano action capable of double repetition
Thank you for your always intriguing video content!
This seems very important but I didn’t quite fully understand. I will have to revisit this comment after my food is digested 😂
Seymour Bernstein is such a gift to humanity - I wish more people were like him
When in doubt, listen to Seymour. This man is such a treasure. I hang on every word he says. I like most Tonebase videos, but Seymour features are some the very best content online. Seymour, tell us everything you think a pianist should know.
You poor, poor soul.
link me to your tone base video and ill compare @@organman52
@@frazerwatson3965 My tone base video? Why on earth would I have one of those? May I add - Mr. Bernstein has the ultimate solution to EVERY single pianistic problem. Every pianist on earth should be flocking to his studio to become enriched and enlightened.
Zen and the Art of the first 3 notes of Moonlight Sonata. Wonderful master class - thank you!
These sessions with Seymour and Ben are truly priceless.
I've never learned so much in one video. Absolutely incredible.
the amount of information and pedagogy that he effortlessly pulls from a few measures is stunning, what a treasure, THANK YOU for sharing with us
Wow what a genius....can I adopt Seymour as my teacher AND as my gradfather? He is just incredible.
You are so privileged to have Maestro Bernstein's tutelage!
These two are always such a joy to watch working together. Thank you for this. I played the first few bars, learned before I could read music, on my introductory first piano lesson when I was 5. Almost 35 now, played the movement a million times, recorded it for a friend, never been happy with it. This was so deeply informative and wonderfully satisfying. More than anything else it's convinced me of the importance of a good teacher (a lesson which I keep learning - a good teacher is worth their weight in gold - and Seymour is 24 karat gold).
The granularity of his analysis is amazing. May however take a hundred years or so to master the sonata.
Its just so amazing how many mistake you can possibly make at the first measure and even a professional pianist. It’s very nice to see and learn about my most favorite sonata ever ❤
Coming from a classical music background, it is so normal to see people respecting and enjoying the knowledge and expertise of others. So many people who haven't have the joy of experiencing this kind of relationship are too quick to scream 'arrogant!'
What a brilliant video… as a self taught pianist, this was a extremely valuable video on technique.
This made my day ❤ I love the humor and respect shared between Seymour and Ben.
This video alone is enough to convince me to sign up to tonebase premium! What a wonderful episode and reminds me of my youth!
This video came just in time, I am performing this song next week. Seymour's masterful teaching already has me sounding better and playing more comfortably. Thank you so much for making these available.
I love him
Ben, I really liked when you switched the "mystical Moonlight". It would be great to hear this continued forward into the 1st mvt. I wonder if you could take all these profound instructions, prepare some and then give us a video of putting it all together in a performance of the 1st mvt. It would be a study of listening & watching for us to pick up on all that Seymour taught you (us). Thanks to both you & Seymour.
This is next level. As a singer and voice teacher, I dip into these videos of Seymour for musical and artistic sustenance. MY what a gift to humanity and art he is.
If he can see more than any other pianist, it’s cause he’s Seymour
Seymour it's amazing
Seymour's way to teach is meditative, so calm and quiet that you can only be relaxed while playing. I love his teachings! Thank you for sharing these precious moments ❤
Dropping wisdom. I'm grateful Sir.
Another stellar lesson from Seymour!
I can’t stop laughing with pure joy witnessing this beautiful interchange between two souls and the piano being the bridge. Love you both. Thank you for sharing your light. ❤
I am not even close to a musician, but I was enthralled by this. Hearing someone teach something that they know and love so well in this manner is captivating.
Thank you so so much it was so informative so important knowledge dear Seymour taught us so helpful thank you🙏🙏🙏💖🌺Please more Seymour videos thank you!!!!
I hope to be like maestro Bernstein one day, what incredible wisdom.
To be able to watch Mr. Bernstein teach is priceless. Simply WOW
I cant express in words the gratitute and appreciation I feel for these kind of teachers. He reminds me of my teacher in contemporary dance and she talked, laughed and cared her words with wisdom just like Seymour.
Thanks alot tonebase piano for making this available to us and thank you Seymour for sharing all this wisdom 🙏
Thank you dear Seymour, thank you Tonebase, for this wonderful insight and journey into music and piano playing
You are amazing. Camera angles are great. Passion, belief and knowledge are finely tuned. I never had tears of joy before, thank you for existing and for doing this!
May the life be with you!
Wow. What an honor it must have been to have had a master class from Mr Bernstein. Amazing.
Nice to see Seymour is doing good! ❤
He brings mechanisms and emotions, not boring...superb sound
Seymour: "Step aside. I need to show you something." 😎
Seymour Bernstein rules! I love his personality and sense of humor in addition to his amazing skill and wisdom.
Loved this so much! Thank you! 💕
I could Watch those guys all day every day ❤
This is amazing!!
So amazing video. Thank you very very much for sharing it!
Can't believe this is free. Thank you all!!
Thank you very much, I really appreciate all the details, from the movement of the fingers, all the technical and interpretation details.
Thank you kindly🤍You are always a joy
Seymour is such a gem. Wow
I've been subscribing to the channel for a while, and I was hesitant to sign up for tonebase. This video sold me on it. I've been using tonebase Piano for about a week, and I love it so much. What they're doing is amazing.
Thank you. Very informative. I got a lot to learn from you
This is so helpful. Thank you!
I’ve been understanding music more and more because of you, best teachers ever, I would love to play for you and work with you, With All Respect For your Souls and Beethoven’s 🤍♻️
when Seymour is happy, I am happy
Now that’s a piano lesson!
I feel like a better player after just watching it - and i haven’t even tried them on the piano yet.
A pure moment of meditation
I love Seymour
seymour bernstein the GOAT 💪💪
He is just so lovely.
Danke herzlichst! Ganz wunderbar.
He is such a wise man.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
the perception of teacher is amazing
That was so good! He is such a cool guy!
Thanks for this video!
The man is a piano genius.
soooo good. Thank you
Extraordinary.
I love this video ❤❤🎉
Podría estar todo el día repitiendo este video....
I wish i could find such a good teacher
Precious 🤍💎
So helpful!!
A wonderful teacher and student
So interesting about the upper arm engagement in dynamics, really amazing. I love ballet and the arm movement actually comes from the back muscles, ive played lazily on piano forever, not knowing.
Seymour spoke the truth when he said the strongest part of the body is from the pelvic girdle, and the second strongest is the shoulder girdle. I worked as a Chiropractor but had to rehabilitate and learn a whole new method of working due to a shoulder injury. In fact I live with a FURS Syndrome. But I learned how to treat the shoulder, and found that in Europe it's one of the most mis-diagnosed and mat-treated articulations in the body.
I have a video about my exercises for stabilizing and strengthening the low back as well as treatments for the upper body and arms.
Oh My Aching Bach.
Every comment by maestro Bernstein is right on. all of it on just 3 notes.
I feel like I'm not ready for this knowledge. Generally, I'm happy just to hit the correct note.
I will try to remember all I can. I had no idea that it could be that difficult. Exercising with the bridge on my piano. Thank you.
Feel it 😂
32:39 "naughty naughty naughty". this moment had me dying 😂
This was just wonderful -- the universe in a grain of sand. I'm reminded of Italo Calvino's Invisible Cities, the interstitial "story" that frames it all, as Kublai Khan plays Marco Polo at chess and worries about the loss of his empire. At the moment Khan is sure his "king" is dead on the board, and all is lost, Marco Polo reveals how that chess piece was made of a certain wood that came from such-and-such land which required certain waters and sun, and little by little, he evokes (resurrects) all the lost land and time. One measure of Beethoven's "Moonlight" contains multitudes -- of course! -- but we all so often just course on by without thinking of the universe embedded within. Thank you, Seymour and Ben, for this delicate, exquisite, and life-affirming little match of chess!
He is the best teacher because he always want to “seymour” to the students
This is pure gold and I am not even a pianist
What a legend. Unmatched insight.
I am a self-trained guitarist. The left hand never leaves the fret board. I am not a pianist but Seymour is very helpful. Playing Chopin on guitar is the most frustrating thing in my life. Seymour gives me a new perspective.
A lot of guitarists think guitars come with a certain level of fretboard noise but good left-hand economy can make chord transitions practically silent, the callouses actually make it a little harder to mute chords and crawl along the strings on finger pads without going kccxzzzwwww. Speaking as someone still learning, not pretending to be a Seymour.
"thats correct". Beautfull!
The greatest piece of music to Er fall in human ears
Monsieur Bernstein est un fabuleux professeur, sa pédagogie, son humour et son talent de pianiste rend cet homme merveilleux. ❤❤❤
This is why I subscribe to tonebase. I love this kind of deep dive into technique. Now, what about tempo? I wonder if Seymour is aware of Ben Zander's thoughts about this piece, and other Beethoven tempos.
Yes. The ‘una quasi fantasia’.