How did France Get Nukes? (Short Animated Documentary)
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- France was nation number 4 to obtain nuclear weapons but what isn't often discussed is how they came to get hold of them. So how did they? How did France get Nuclear Weapons? To find out watch this short and simple animated documentary.
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USA: you don't need nukes
France: *did I ask your opinion?*
Same with India
Also I love France because they also supported India's nuclear program when
Usa and British was against us
@@jaisingh-th9fu France has always been reluctant to Anglo imperialism and rathers encourage regional powers for multilateralism.
@@yannickdrmda5295 France historically supported regional powers when it served to hinder other imperialist powers, not because of any altruism. That's pretty much a universal truth - nations act in their selfish best interest.
French scientist made patent of atomic bomb in 1939 way before anyone else, and after the fall of France they gave their research to Britain which gave them to the US and the US didn't ask French opinion to use their work, so...
@@yannickdrmda5295 tough france is jealous of uk us relationship open secret
France was litterly “I’m not stuck in here with you, your stuck in here with me”
Comment
you're*
Rorschach
"Litterly" as in "litter" ?
*Literally and *you’re.
france be like :
*This time, if I die, you will ALL die with me !*
Sounds like Israel.
Indeed, that's the 101 of deterrence....
Also France: if you don't help us hold Vietnam against the vietnamese, we're out.
USA and UK : "We don't want you Frenchies to have nuclear weapons and you won't be able to do it by yourselves".
France : "Hold my baguette".
actually the USA did the same to us Brits even after we helped them on the Manhattan project. SO yeah, even we told them to hold our warm ale.
*Mao rears his head behind the table*
That’s called foreshadowing
I thought I was the only one to notice it was mao
What? Did he not have a "SOON" sign?
Meanwhile I’m oblivious to the number of people on the screen and just assume it was France popping up behind the sign that said ‘France’. Glad I read this comment and went back to see Mao!
Can we just say Russia was stupid for giving them nuclear technology to build nuclear weapons?
@@attiepollard7847 Did China attack or threaten Russia?
Fun fact, the USSR took France's nuclear arsenal very seriously, recently declassified documents of offensive plans over Europe the Soviets had showed that invading or or attacking French territory was strictly forbidden in fear or eliciting a nuclear response from them. The plan, if it had been put into motion, was mostly to blitz through Germany and maybe the Benelux, but stop at France, no matter how well the attack goes, without the use of nuclear weapons to then show the US that 'it's done, what are you gonna do about it?' and hope that they too won't resort to nuclear fire after.
Salami tactics
@Guy Panzerboss As it turns out, nukes made it much more effective at deterring invasions. And it didn't need collaboration with Belgium. Win-win, who'd have thunk?
I've read somewhere that France planned to use them after two weeks of conflict if the warsaw pact got the upperhand in Germany and Benelux, so the soviet plan to avoid invading France wouldn't work
If by fun fact you mean "completely expected", that is.
The thing is that the French nuclear arsenal is enough to wipe humanity from earth 15 times. Not saying this to brag about because US and USSR had both enough to do the same but 300 times. Even Israel has the same capacity as France, don’t know about the other countries, though
- Ps: I was saying really dumb shit, don’t listen to me
everyone:why the f--- does france need nukes
France:*stares at Germamy* just for fun
France needed them more than any allied power. They're share land with juggernauts.
@@Zraknul considering... Pretty much all of history germany and france are always in a conflict with each other
@@robertdixon3592 nah, Germany is a recent country.
You must be thinking of France and England
@@robertdixon3592 Germany was formed in 1871 so we do have 2 World War against them but it's far from the century of conflicts we had with England during the 1100 ish~ to 1850ish~
They need something to defend themself.
France had the most advanced nuclear program before WWII but it was derailed by the war. The work of Joliot-Curie was pivotal in the development of nuclear science, in fact you can say he is the father of nuclear science.
"The most" is arguable, but alongside German and English nuclear research programs they were definitly amongst the most advanced of the time and it definitly helped alot post war
@@erwannthietart3602US deserves 0 credit for their program. They were just intelligent enough to “welcome” all those scientists.
@@fan2hd277the US built upon it (with foreign scientists) just like the French, German, and British programs were built on the back of previous research. Doesn’t discredit any of the work here for the torch was carried by several people across several nations and the US had to front a ton of money (and their own research still). Science is a team effort though, and we stand on the shoulders of giants.
Did they manage to hide this work from the Germans?
@@fan2hd277 US didn't kill the scientist just because they were Jews like Nazis did. We should give some credit to US for that.
USA : no nuke for France
Charles de Gaulle : fine, I'll do it myself then
Charles de Gaulle : Hold my beer...
@@maxencedreuillet9486 wine*
@@DiavoloGrenadine not everyone in france drinks wine 😅🤣
@@Arvipa. No fucking way...
@@Arvipa. that right only...I Say...99% ?
US : you can't have nuke
France : *splish splash your opinion is trash*
And 69 likes...nice
Now 96
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Now 502
US : The Concil has elected that you don't need nukes
France : I recognize the concil has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.
Also helps to explain how Israel managed to develop nuclear weapons fairly quickly seeing as they worked with the French.
It may've been expensive but not relying on others for your own defensive capabilities or having your hands tied how u want to use them is going to make one feel more secure.
Well UK in is mission to create a jew state, send help to them
America probably sold Israel theirs to keep Iran in check
@@zeroxcqt2862 Britain did very little to help create a 'jew state' as you call it since 1917. Also, a jew state was already founded by then (1948), so creating it wasn't a problem, having the neighbouring Arab states wipe it off the map, was.
@@gadaboutunited Yeah britain just give one of their colony (with a promised independance) to someone else lol
@@zeroxcqt2862 Thanks for displaying a distinct lack of ignorance of what the mandate was, or it's purpose.
0:01 Lmao that "How am I running" sign on FDR
Jesus that's a good one
Good eye!
Never would have caught that hahaha
That joke was too soon ;)
😂 nice catch
U.S.A. : Don't make nukes.
France : Comment ? Que dites-vous ? Navré mais nous ne parlons pas l'anglais ici.
I like your french
@@Francefire What do you like particulary in it? ^^
It is a really high language
@@kaalbrak old school french, it's very elevated
edit : It's very distinguished*
@@steller1636 insulting someone in really high language is the Best way of saying "Shut up, im above you"
Parfaite illustration du célèbre "si vis pacem para bellum"
Missa brevis et spiritus maxima
If you want peace, prepare for all out destruction of mankind.
Although a bit late to the convo, it's important to note that the French nuclear program also laid the foundation for the Israeli one as well (as you might have suspected from this video). Those scientists that were booted had developed enough know-how to develop their own bombs, though unlike the French they had American help. Another lesser known thing about the French nuclear program is that they also indirectly aided the Indian one as well, though more passively when compared to the Israeli one.
yeah. that's the one of the worst things france did after ww2, letting the yoos have nukes.....
@@sabin97 Agree. I'd even say our biggest mistake was to save their sorry ass during ww2. See how they love us back in return.
@@MB-em9ek
and how they have been brutalizing the semitic men women and children of palestine for almost 80 consecutive years.
the man with the mustache was right about them. he should have been allowed to implement his solution. the world would be a tiny bit better now.
No at that time Israel didn't have the support of the US. Their biggest ally was France. That changed with De Gaulle who stopped all military collaboration with Israel and basically sent them in the arms of the Americans.
@@MB-em9ek France didn't save anyone during WW2. They couldn't even save themself.
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Merry Christmas to you too!
@@jamesbissonette8002 of course...
@@jamesbissonette8002 can it be? The legend himself!!
Curiously we never learn that in french school, we were told about the Manhattan project and of course the fact that we are a nation with nuclear power but never how we get this power. Really instructive thanks !
Don't worry, it's not even in program in French history class. We only learn Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Cold War, the United Nations Security Council and the countries which possess nuclear power
@@biscut49 oui et non moi en terminal on a juste sauté les étapes comme au collège en parlant vites fait de De Gaulle
Ben on va dire que c'est sujet à controverse d'atomiser ses colonies...
70% of electricity in France is produced by nuclear power plants
Honestly, never learned from high school about the french Nuclear program, but since we lezrned about De Gaulle, and his wish for France to be able to stand by itself in the bipolar world, im not even surprise the entire program was pretty much filled with spite and salt from everyone involved
France spearheaded the development and deployment of the neutron bomb. This weapon is designed to explode as an airburst and rather than destroying everything, it releases intense neutron radiation. It kills everyone in its area of effect but doesn't cause mass devastation or long-term fall out. These weapons were key to French strategy in fighting a Warsaw Pact invasion of Europe.
Neutron bombs do not work nearly as well as pop culture makes you believe. At its core it is basically a less efficient thermonuclear device that still incinerates everything in a large radius. The neutron radiation itself is not immediately deadly, so if used as a tactical device, you would probably be looking at another "attack of the dead men."
More importantly, neutron radiation will irradiate everything, so even if you are reducing the amount of fallout, the sought after reduction in contamination will at most be true for countries down wind... And once people found out they needed to shield their bunkers against neutron radiation, even its use against bunkers became meaningless.
I never got how Neutron bombs were supposed to be more "humane" than conventional nukes. The idea of a large uninhabited and uninhabitable city is creepier than one melted by an explosion and has radiation ever killed someone instantly like a detonation can or don't you usually die painfully over a period of time?
@@RRW359 theoretically there is an instantly lethal dose of neutron radiation. The inverse square law being what it is, nobody will ever die to that unless they sit in a massive concrete bunker and the bomb detonated right on top of them. The thermal radiation and blast will still kill everyone close by who has no cover the conventional way.
And yes, neutron radiation works the opposite way of gamma radiation. It just passes by heavy elements but gets absorbed by very light elements so that concrete bunker would basically shield from the blast and filter out one kind of radiation.
It was Samuel T. Cohen, an American Jew, who developed the neutron bomb.
you don't need nukes
france: i listen to no one.
Ussr, UK, US: no preemptive nuclear strikes
France: Non
USSR/Russian doctrine said that they would use Tactual Nukes in the attack.
In France, If someone press the nuke bouton, no conter orders could be executed by the submarines or land troops, even if it is a miss click. If it is press, all franche nukes will be lunched no mater what apend (no go back if ennemis want war, they will get it)
@@Delgen1951 Lie
27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in RESPONSE to the use of nuclear weapons and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with conventional weapons, when the very existence is threatened. the state.
(C) Russian doctrine
@@shprotos4724 Asura meant USSR/Russian as the Soviet Union and not todays Russian Federation.
A lot of people just sees USSR and Russia as the same thing when speaking about the soviet union.
Asura also said "They would use tactical nukes in the attack" which talks about the past plan the Soviet union had for a potential invasion, not talking about todays Russia.
@@freedomfighter22222 read again the last one year declarations from рас-Putin; how many times did that jerk had threatened the world with ruzzia nukes since he’s started this war ? The thing is he has no balls.
We hid them in baguettes. You’ll never know if it’s a warhead or a baguette flying straight at you.
If either of them are coming right at you, you have bigger problems
Both are incredibly deadly anyway lol
Elba or St Helena? which is better
@@ce1834 Trivago
@Vive L'Empereur id rather get hit by a falling tree than a week old baguette
you think it's all baguette and omelette until you see a flying croissant nuke
I think De Gaulle was wise for pursuing an independent nuclear military program with themselves. It allowed the US and Britian to fold more into their foreign policy and it allowed France to have more power and leeway after the Suez Crisis. That and it benefited the economy by allowing much civilian technical power and brain-gain to re-enter the country. 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵⚜⚜
Everyone: merry Christmas and a happy new year
History matters: nukes
I mean we thought 2020 was going to start with a war lol
Well nukes are the ultimate fireworks
*merry
Marry lol
Aw man, Halloween is so hot tho...
Important to note that France was also a pioneer in ballistic missiles thanks to Robert Esnault Peltiere who is recognized as one of the pioneer in this field. When the Sputnik was launch a tribute was paid to him by the USSR. After WW2 France resume the research based on his previous works which greatly help in the construction of the nuclear missiles as well as in building an autonomous space program. :)
Yup. The development of submarine launched ballistic missiles, independent of other nations assistance, is honestly even more impressive than their nuclear weapons programme.
Or the fact that this small country still produce jet fighters, combat helicopters, all kind of missiles, nuclear powered aircraft carriers, submarines and and warships, main battle tanks....... the list is long.
@@arno222444 yup were in the top 5 weapons world exporter(depending of the years we are 4,5 or 6)
The only thing we don't do is small arms but need a submarine,thermal/NV optics or a military satellite we got you covered
@@chibani- minor correction France export "a lot" of military satellite
@@arno222444 we aren’t that small in Europe
USA : "You won't get nukes"
*chad Charles de Gaulle entered the game*
When taking French class, my French teacher from Algeria, told us about France losing Algeria and how they had to flee with almost nothing, leaving their plantation to the terrorists. She also commented that she couldn't understand why DeGaul was so adamant about making a nuclear weapon. Decades later, I learned why, how France recieved nuclear blackmail from Russia during the Suez and Algerian crisis, which is why they and Britain had to pull back. The Americans wouldn't back France so DeGaul had to go it alone. Now, Russia is trying the same BS with us about his invading the Ukraine. He's having his propagandists tell us Oh, there might be nuclear war, we may end up having to bomb Europe, oh it's the Ukrainians who are at fault that all of our armies and tanks and missles are in Ukraine, and oh Zel is such a corrupt man, and they have bio labs...Such BS that people are falling for while he's trying to scare us all about nukes. This is why we have to have a nuclear deterrent.
Calling Algerians the terrorists when she was in their land😂
Is ur teacher a pied noir?
Hehe a recent comment
Surefire way to get the French to do something: Tell them you really rather they wouldn't.
Sadly things haven't changed much... And I've lived here 10 years/am French-American.
Pas faux.
French: We're going to build some forts along here..
Brits: Could you not?
French: Sorry, but no we could not not
And so they built their forts...
And then the Brits sent an up and coming lieutenant by the name of George Washington to deal with them.
Politics with Frenchy dear god I could get you to do literally *anything* just by telling you not to.
Don’t do naked jumping jacks on a warship in Florida
I’ll be watching the news
@@tremedar You surely know that Georges W was defeated by French and Indians ?
USA: don't make nukes
France: ... *Non*
USSR in 1989: ,,You can keep nukes if you want to"
Poland: *No! Get out!*
USA in 2015: ,,Ok, so maybe you want my ones?"
Poland: *Will you shut up, man?*
actually to negate a negative sentence, French says "Si"
@@Admiral45-10 Poland REALLY doesn’t want nukes, eh?
@@cfoerster2008 ta pp est adaptée a la situation
@@Ollin.1312 Le Général à jamais dans mon coeur
Fun fact : US didn’t want France to get the nukes but we where the pionniers on nuclear physic meaning that without our help they wouldn’t have Nukes in the first place. So when the 2nd WW was finish whith them or without we were going to built our own.
The nuclear physic itself was discovered by French scientist between 1895 and 1940. We were not the first country to get the nukes because we where invade in 1940 and scientist had to stop. Then they left for the Manhattan project to help you guys because they couldn’t work in France anymore and German military was hunting them.
Here is a list of French scientist who discovered and developed the nuclear physic.
- Henri Poincarré
- Pierre et Marie Curie
- Frédéric et Irène Juliot-Curie
- Francis Perrin
- Paul Langevin
- Émile Henriot
- Hans Halban
- Lew Kowarski
Au moins, ce n’est pas nous qui avons développé des armes pour tuer des millions de gens voire plus encore vu qu’on est à la fin des temps (La Salette, 1846 ou encore Fatima, 1917)
Au moins, ce n’est pas nous qui avons développé des armes pour tuer des millions de gens voire plus encore vu qu’on est à la fin des temps (La Salette, 1846 ou encore Fatima, 1917)
@@dommay499 En 40 après invasion allemande beaucoup de scientifiques et physiciens fr ont émigrés aux USA. Premièrement car ils étaient recherchés par l’armée allemande mais aussi car ils se sont vu offrir des postes au sein du projet Manhattan. Donc si on était là et nos scientifiques travaillaient sur le sujet depuis bien plus longtemps que les américains. Si on avait pas été envahit nous aurions certainement été les premier à être armé de la bombe nucléaire.
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Will you ever release the "Times I screwed up my narration" montage you said you may release on new years day? Will you do another Q&A this year?
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@@kaiseramadeus233 what makes you say that?
@@kaiseramadeus233 vaguely saying that doesn’t help anybody
@@kaiseramadeus233 No, we don't know that. Probably because it's not true.
@@MuchWhittering This man literally changed the name of his channel and the type of presentation without so much as a word. He told us nothing for months
Then he never replied to comments. He can't be transparent and honest if he never even makes promises in the first place
His Patreon Supporters, the ones that bring life to his channel, are only mentioned in a passing way. He's better than other tubers because he actually says most of their names, but still
Because James bissonette financed Frances nuclear project.
Wow, such funny and not repetitive. Truth I am telling.
@@themysticautistic5449 Why do you speak like Yoda
ba il a bien raison
Why did u spoil the video?
Hahaaaaahahaha hilarious
It seems like the French nailed the strategy in view of recent events
Manhatten was a multinational effort. Even Canada had scientists working on it.
"How did France get nukes ?"
Wave the mouse around the video image.
See Charles De Gaulle.
Of course.
The Fourth Republic : why everybody ignores me
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@ The Third Republique and Frederic Joliot : am i a joke to you we had patents
De Gaulle was in charge in 1945 and start french nuclear program. He resigned in 1946 and came back as President in 1958 (first bomb in 1960). From 46 to 58, it was still on the way. So De Gaulle really wanted it but he wasn't the only one^^
French nuclear policy is very simple: We failed to defend our land from occupation once. *NEVER AGAIN.*
The history of France is full of ocuption and liberations, people like you think that WW2 is the only war, France fought, the nuclear program was more for garanteeing the independnce and self reliance of France, and and not to depend on the us or Great Britain
@@cardett75 to my knowledge that was the only time the capital was occupied since the foundation of France by Clovis. Outside of that it is full of defeats and territory losses (Alsace in 1870, Normandy to Britain during the middle Age), but something as the Nazi occupation was a first as far as I know.
@@filippopotame3579 listen, Charles de Gaulle, the Guy who initiated the nuclear program for France was not some sort of politician he was a military man by formation, juste like Napoléon and few other leaders France had, the vast majority had been politician in nature, nuclear weapons are not differents than fortress back in the day, or even the Maginot Line they are proactive thing to do specially for a military goverment, this goes far beyond the french defeat in WW2. Again your understanding of french History is limited. But you guys think you know better.
@@cardett75 well I don't see how what you said in your last post (which is true) contradicts what I said. I agree with your point that it was mainly to garantee independence from the US. I was just stating the fact that ww2 was kind of a first when it comes to defending the French land, it was worse than the defeat of Sedan or Dien Bien Phu or Waterloo (for instance) which didnt't involve an occupation of Paris for several years and therefore resulted in a trauma for the country.
I wanted to nuance the fact that even though we don't believe that it was the only war in French history, it was an especially humiliating experience that fostered the need of steategic independence.
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just for a really tiny bit when it was trash
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I mean I get why France would have fundamentaly different policy toward use of nuclear weapons then UK and US - those two were well protected against convential forces by sea and formidable navies meaning their defeat and occupation conventionaly was hard if not impossible while France shared continent with the Soviet block and it's overrun by conventional warfare was pretty likely - and in case of WWIII France would again likely be among the first to be attacked as the Soviet armies would pour into Europe...
The main thing you need to understand about franco-us/uk relation is that France won't agree about an anglo-saxon superpower world.
@@Hugo-cn9no Yep and it goes the other way around. Us/Uk don't like seeing other strong culture still maintaining their influence. France (and La Francophonie in general) is one of the only western country that doesn't entierly submits to American Imperialism.
@@Hugo-cn9no Because France has the power to be great again, a lot greater so we have our word to say, but we like you
@@RyanBarroso meh you're past it
@@RyanBarroso The only country in western Europe that can become a superpower again is Britain
To add something, France was one of the leaders in nuclear technology before the war and were on the way to build the first atomic pile. But then Germany invaded, so all the projects were stopped or carried to England
Do you have a source for this? I've seen multiple sources that prove Britain had the worlds most advanced nuclear program prior to WW2, but never one that suggests France had the most advanced.
More than happy to learn something new if you have some credible links
@@arthurfisher1857 I was curious so I found some sources but in french only (wikipédia etc ..)
I learned namely that the generation of neutrons when breaking an Uranium nucleo was discovered by a french team in april 1939 before any other country. So I don't know if France was the most advanced, but it looks like a real player at the time.
@@arthurfisher1857 Frédéric Joliot-Curie (yes this family had a thing for nuclear stuff) patented it in 1939.
@@KS-se5ry Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann documented this in 1938, realising what they had done and being the first to do so.
In 1937 and 1938, scientists Irène Joliot-Curie and Paul Savič reported results from their investigations on irradiating uranium with neutrons.
Fermi actually did it in 1934, but he did not know what he had done - but it was his idea to do so. He documented it.
It seems that French Wiki is - special.
@@KS-se5ry Correction - it was Lise Meitner and Otto Frisch in 1938.
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The US: noooo! You cant just have your own nuclear arsenal and have an independent defense program from us! Noooo!
France: haha nuclear weapons go boom!
Kaboom?
@@bengaliperson5127 Yes Charles, Kaboom.
@@bengaliperson5127 yes rico, kaboom
How dare the US tell other countries what they need to have and what they don’t when their country is only 400 years old XD
Did... did you totally miss the whole "france only wanted some to get the U.S and U.K involved" part or are you just choosing to ignore it for personal patriotic biased emotions?
France: *tests nukes in Algeria*
Algeria: hey we're independent now, can you not?
France: lol
....some time later....
France: ugh fine, we'll test it in island paradises instead
Nice profile picture, f*** the patriots
France tested chemical weapons at B2 Namous until 1979, or even later
The UK tested its nukes in Australia too, even though Australia was already independent.
@@bangscutter Well, it's not like France fought a war in Algeria.
That's like America testing nukes in Vietnam until 1979
@ bruh 1.5 million people died in that revolution it like saying American never fought in Vietnam.
Wow so informational
Great content!
I like Mao hiding behind the nuclear power club desk being like: "soon..."
I thought the "Soon..." sign would pop up, too. Hee, hee.
Sequel?
@@badluck5647 Honestly I thought it would be Israel. After all Israeli scientists worked on the French program.
Time stamp?
@@magical1808 near the end of the video
De gaulle discussing nuclear deterrence with one of his advisors said: 'we only need to be able to tear their arm off' when talking about gaining the respect of the superpowers.
the french and their need for "respect" lol. couldn't let go of colonialism it seems.
@@angelG14I dont know what youre on about, but every country seeks a degree of respect. Including yours wherever you are from.
And yes a country that yields territory easily will just disappear.
@@jacques8221 there is a difference between yielding core territory and denying independence to colonies have the world away, who want nothing to do with you (and are barely profitable anyway).
You know you can be independent without oppressing others and denying self-determination right?
@@panagiotismagos3649 >barely profitable
>French Colonies
What are you smoking and where can i get some
@@user-qp4ru6el2s Africa wasnt really all thay profitable for tge Eyropeams, because controlling it was a massive waste of resources,and most manpower it provided was only enough to replenish the manpower spent on keeping the colonies in the first place, especially the parts france got (much of French west Africa was literally just a desert). The reason condutions in the Belgian Congo under leopold were so inhumane, was because that was the only way to kae the colony actually give significant profits, and that was with the Congo's rubber and other resources. Polynesia/american islands barely gave anything to the government other than a test for nuclear weapons.
That leaves us with Indochina, which France held for only a limited time and which was pathetic in comparison to other European colonies in asia. It only provided a few cash crops, while the Raj and the Dutch East indies were actually insanely profitable and actually contributed with manpower to Britain and the Netherlands.
So tell me, what am I missing? Barely populated and indefensible Luisianna? Quebec, which the French quickly lost and which was honestly just an average colony?
Britain copying Americas homework? The entire manhattan project was literally copying Britain's homework. Then shutting britain out after the war was over.
Ever heard about Pierre et Marie Curie ? And Henri becquerel who discovered radioactivité and give the name "radioactivité" May be that was a ggod start ??
All physics was in Europe before WW2.
Ah ha. I think I finally understand why the French nuclear testing in French Polynesia was as controversial as it was in Australia. After all, Australia let the UK test its nukes in the centre of our country, and we didn't bat an eyelid at the US tests in the South Pacific. So it seemed odd that we made a fuss about the French tests.
While I mostly knew how the French nuclear programme developed, I didn't know that the US and UK opposed it (and thanks for explaining why). And the fact they took place later, when the public was turning further against nuclear proliferation explains it neatly.
No, you don't get all of it. The fuss was because France never signed the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty and was still conducting open air hydrogen bomb tests long after the US and Russia had stopped.
I think that the fuss was about the fact that in the 1990's we tested some nukes in Polynesia even though we had signed a treaty not to. Funny thing is even to this day we still have no idea why the fuck we decided to test those nukes. Like the context was clear, there were no threats, no particular incitement to stir shit up but we did that anyway. And I'm not joking no one here knows or understands why.
so no shit people were gonna be pissed out lmao, it's like if the neighbour next door decides to play drums at 4 am for no god damn reason at all.
@@cebonvieuxjack At the time, the French said that the reason for running a few more live tests was to acquire enough data to move on to simulation. I don't know how true that is, but to me it looks like sufficient motivation, considering that backlash was certainly expected. And as a matter of fact, France did end live tests and moved on to simulation.
As for why Australians and other nations in the Pacific were pissed about France, I suspect that the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland in 1985 was still a recent event at the time.
The "Anglo-saxon" world hate france and french. the natural enemy of france is GB and USA.
@@cebonvieuxjack as far as I’m aware the French never actually signed a test ban treaty they were just expected to go along with the US and didn’t.
"Since radiation doesn't care for borders"
The french government in 1986 when the tchernobyl nuclear disaster happened : *Visible confusion*
fun fact news in France at this time was "the nuclear cloud stop at de border, no problems bro"
@@niaraa8378 News all over Europe.
In chronological order.
"The cloud is contained to an immediate area around reactor 4."
"The fallout spread in the local region but not farther."
"The fallout is contained to the Eastern border of the Soviet Union"
"The contamination doesn't cross the Iron Curtain"
"The contamination doesn't cross the French Border."
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"Gee, it actually spread all over the place!"
@@tywinlannister8015 yup now, all other countries did SOME measures to lessen the impact on population (like don't drink milk)
France : nope it stopped at the border
@@chibani- On the other hand, we had an active traitor on our scientific scene at the time. Two in fact, that were crusading against "paranoia".
Doctor Pellerin, renowned specialist in radio-protection who advised the government on policies on this matter.
And a fellow named Wakefield or Warfield I don't remember exactly, also an expert.
Pellerin went public in TV many times to "debunk" the radioactive threat, despite mounting evidence. Turns out he and his accomplice had a stake in making sure France didn't take certain measures.
When you can't trust field specialists, who can you trust? I mean, it was 1986. Internet wasn't a thing. His allegations were extremely damaging to French policy in that regard.
@@tywinlannister8015 ahh un compatriote.... this is akward..
Oui c'est bien ces experts qui ont poussé le gouvernement dans cette voie, remarque entre les avions renifleurs de petrole et les cons qu'on a eu au debut du covid on se dit que NOS experts sont toujours aussi a l'ouest et que quel que soit le bord politique du gouvernement ils écouteront toujours la voix la plus mielleuse :)
2:54 LOL @ Mao peeking from behind the podium, as if to say "Be with you soon, Nuclear Club!"
Well put
The French found it expensive because James Bissonnete didn't fund their nuclear programme
*strained laughter*
Or funding from Kelly Moneymaker
@Dave Hardy Or Zarca Flash
Who is that guy bissonete?
@@SylvesterStaline. no one knows for sure. Apparently, he is a walking bank.
France has the best military record of any european nation, quote from the second book of general ignorance byohn Lloyd and John Mitchinson : "According to historian Niall Ferguson, the French have fought more military campaigns than any other European nation and won twice as many battles as they have lost, of the 125 major European wars fought since 1495, the French have participated in fifty - more than both Austria (forty-seven) and England (forty-three). And they’ve achieved an impressive batting average: out of 168 battles fought since 387 BC, they have won 109, lost forty-nine and drawn ten.this makes France the most successful military power in European history !
The British always prided themselves on superiority at sea, but this was only because they realised they could never win a land war on the Continent.
The French army has, for most of history, been the largest, best equipped and most strategically innovative in Europe. At its best, led by Napoleon in 1812, it achieved a feat that even the Nazis couldn’t repeat: it entered Moscow.
These remarkable achievements help explain another French military victory. Whether it is ranks (general, captain,corporal, lieutenant...); equipment (lance, mine, bayonet,epaulette, trench...); organisation (volunteer, regiment, soldier, barracks...) or strategy (army, camouflage, combat, esprit de corps, reconnaissance...), the language of warfare is written in one language : French."
Making me proud of my country, I'm gonna cry
Napoleon I approve.
You don't have to say that, we know it.
France is a country that is more or less stable since Clovis in 481 AC. It's more than 1500 years ago. Of course we won lots of our battles, otherwise we couldn't have stayed frenches.
Out of the dozens of kingdoms in the current french territory (burgundy, little britain, etc), the french one won and stayed.
France was also amaizing at WW2. Btw. Poland also occupied Moscow.
I think france gets a bad reputation I mean if enemy troops were in your capital surrendering isn't unreasonable. I also think part of the reason why they have a bad reputation is because the British never liked them so whenever they won a war they severely punished the french its impressive to see how many times france got back up after losing almost everything
2:13 thats why I love this channel !
UK: *Does group assignment at US' house*
US: "You copied my homework"
Anyone else misread this as "How did France Get Nuked?"
Oof no but love your vids btw
There's a topic for you to make a video out of.
Israeli nuclear scientists in 1940s? That's a joke. During 1950s and 1960s France and England planted military nuclear technology in Israel. They built the Dimona reactor that produces plutonium for nukes and Norway provided heavy water for it. But first France and then England stopped working with them and to this day Israel hasn't been able to build a new heavy water nuclear reactor to replace Dimona . which shows what happens when west stops giving them technology for free.
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@@spartan5018 Thanks, pally!
Such a true lesson of life, nobody will stick up for you and nobody will respect you until you force that respect with a bigger stick.
I guess you were beaten as a child.
@@aoikemono6414 shut up.
I think it’s more because all three were worried that France would go all trigger happy.
@@aoikemono6414 No, that's simply a modernization of Teddy Roosevelt's words
The British started a nuclear program first, codenamed "Tube Alloys." This program was later folded into the Manhattan Project, with the promise that America would share the results of the program with the British.
As usual, the Americans screwed the British. The British gave up supersonic aircraft and orbital rocketry because our 'friends' said 'if you give us your gen, we'll give you ours"!
As usual, the British rewrite history. Both the Germans and the French had an ongoing nuclear armament research program when the MAUD committee/ Tube Alloys program came to existence.
Hell, both the British and American programs weren't even precursors in the field, but actually responses to the worrying German nuclear weapons program.
By the times Bohr declared that a chain reaction was unfeasible, and Tizard declared that the odds of building a functioning nuclear bomb were 100,000 to 1, the French already had patented a nuclear bomb (patent 971-324 of May 39 by Curie). And one year later, while the Tube Alloys program was barely beginning, the French had already secured the heavy water stocks from Norsk Hydro and imported massive amounts of Uranium from the Belgian Congo. The German invasion Put everything to a halt, but the French would have doubtless succeeded, and quickly.
@@maloflory Again you French with your lies.
@@cpj93070 Ah yes, our evil, well-documented, openly available and widely acknowledged lies.
Had the Brits turned their stupidity into rocket fuel you guys would have won the space race by a long shot.
@@cpj93070 You forgot to tell what was incorrect, and I'm curious if you can do that also providing a link to your source of truth. Otherwise, try to be sensible person, or did the edgy accusation you made make your day? ☀
Imagine if history class were taught like this ! A dream x)
Si seulement l'histoire était enseignée comme ça, j'adore !
Next video: “How did my mom get nukes?”
And nuked my dad
Every mom has nukes how did you not know this
She stole the Third Reich's blueprints👌
More likely she has some bazookas.
Another next video: "How did the US get Metal Gear?"
2:12 "Radiation doesn't care for border"
Haha Tchernobyl cloud go brrrr
Poor Belarus 🇧🇾
Fun fact: french officials decided that infact the cloud did stop at the french borders
(To avoid panic in the population)
@@chibani- and they still didn’t learn the lesson that lying to the public doesn’t help them much in the long run
@@chibani- Fun fact what you are saying is false. It's the media that said that
Was looking for this one reference
I really appreciate the historical education.
2:55 China be like: "This ain't over yet."
" insert nation possessing nuclear capabilities after france " : " This ain't over yet."
@@kaijixpapa178 *South Africa has entered the chat*
*there is another*
@@gameoflife9576 and left
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After what happened during WWII, it makes sense why France had the nuclear policy that they did.
*france still has today over 300 nuclear warheads btw. So i would say they still have that policy… kind of at least.
Did Paris get nuked, millions die, and the country become an uninhabtable wasteland? Or did I miss that part in WW2 history? Some people certainly do lack sense.
@@aoikemono6414 more like: France don't want to suffer a catastrophic defeat once again that lead to occupation of its territory.
USA: No bombs for you
France: Bien, Je vais lui faire moi même
If you are trying to do something, the knowledge that it is possible is enormously valuable. Just knowing that it is possible saves millions of dollars in researching dead ends. France and the UK with the H bomb had a massive head start just by knowing hat such a thing was possible.
There were anti-French opinion campaigns after that. (as there were others later). De Gaulle is always presented as a cold and arrogant character (the complete opposite of the natural playfulness of the French and that our Anglo-Saxon comrades rightly envy;)), because he had a big fault in the eyes of the United States and from England: he loved his country above all and he understood perfectly that in order not to be reduced to the rank of a puppet, it was necessary to twist their wrists constantly. For him it was not a right but a duty. Well done Charles!
De Gaulle was disliked intensely at a personal level by both Churchill and FDR which was decades before the events in question discussed here.
@@watching99134 Yes, the origin was during WW2 when allies wanted to put Giraud in charge of France. I read the memories of CDC. De Gaulle perfectly read the intentions of the US and UK gouvernements.
@@zorbeclegras5708 add to that they wanted to control and print our money. Some sort of dollar francs if I recall.
@@Impl0ze93True.
And he did it because France was capable of it unlike the rest of the countries that still doesn't have it
"US felt that France did not need nuclear weapons"
It's like the bully telling the little kid he doesn't need to take karate lessons.
How DARE you be anything but my puppet?!
But if you look at the proposed french strategy , i am sure you would have the same reaction as the US
@@stealth225 thing is de gaulle never ever cared about what anybody else than france had to say lmao
Keep in mind that “little kid” was a global power controlling a large chunk of the world after they conquered and subjecting those colonies and brutally tried to keep them in the empire when they revolted like Vietnam and Algeria.
@@brandonlyon730 like if US history had always been peaceful
We got them from Santa Claus. I remember that year, he actually came to my house first loaded with them before delivering them to those in charge.
Love the picture of Napoleon on the wall in France.
merci Charles de Gaules pour ce projet qui nous a permis de nous affirmer.
@Olivier Verdys une dette envers les US? Euh non. Ce qu'ils ont fait couvre a peine le fait de leur avoir donner leur propre pays en mettant le nôtre a la ruine pour qu'ils ensuite nous prennent la Louisiane sans jamais rien payer. C'est tout just si ce n'est pas encore eux qui ont une dette envers nous
@@heatea5255 Do not forget that the US did not come to liberate France. They just wanted to break the Germans before they became too powerful to cross the Atlantic and open a front in the east of the country in addition to the Pacific front. The liberation of France and all European countries was only an obligatory consequence of this step, not a wish of the US General Staff and the President.
France owes freedom to the US, but the US owe France its birth!
You guys don't owe the US as much as they owe you. Never forget that!
Des centaines de milliers d'Algériens sont affectés par ces tests nucléaires , oui merci a vous.
@@luc7478 on fait pas d'omelette sans casser d'œuf
@@hubertguilmain3286 l'histoire nous a appris que chacun son tour. Vous allez payez pour ces crimes un jour ou un autre.
From the discovery of radium by Pierre and Marie Curie, France has never ceased to have a particular relationship with atome. Electricity in France is of majority nuclear origin. Submarines and aircraft carrier are nuclear. Today, the next nuclear central unities will be EPR, technic very expensive but also in despite very difficult to update. And if there is a country which has always had the concern to be independant in Europe, for energy and military, it is certainly France.
France also has never ceased to have a particular relationship... with the Anglo-Saxon world. 😂
@@jberlioz Yeah... but the same way as UK or US tries to push on France, you also tend to push your own agenda on others, for example on Hungary. France is great... but they only value the greatness in themself.
@@jberlioz Thanks for proving me right.
Honestly I do have to agree with France on this, when you keep in mind they were invaded in the bloodiest wars in human history and even before the 20th century when their 2:1 win record was upheld many battles occurred on french soil.
Yeah for France there really isn't that much of a difference between the major cities getting nuked in a day vs having your entire army slaughtered and population gulaged for being revolutionary and of course dying of an inevitable famine cause communism.
Mutual destruction basically ensures their sovereignty because well, france tried a purely defensive strategy and we all know how one oversight completely destroyed years of work.
French nukes were pretty capable to keep them out of booodbath in case WW3 going hot in Europe in 70-80-s while being mostly-conventional. If both USSR and USA somehow agree to not use their "doomsday arsenals" on eachother cities (and why bother to if most fight is happening in Europe and noone threatens each other territory), fight gets conventional with mostly small-yield tactical nuclear strikes, happening around the advancing/defending units. In such case France can just pull a neutrality card, declaring that it doesn't participate in this clusterfuck but would use nukes in case of their border violation, but if noone tries - noone's get hurt. Most likely, Soviets are to accept such a deal - it is quite beneficial to them. USA would be angry as fuck but what are they going to do, realistically?
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These animations are hilarious 😂
I swear Charles de Gaulle hates and doesnt care about anybody lol
The absolute gigachad
Probably not anymore since he's been dead for nearly half a century. lol
Just nazis, communists, anglo-saxons and independantist
"France has no friends, only interests" ~Charles De Gaulle
@@Matt-vh2ci *Napoleon has entered the chat*
France pioneering nuclear research with the Curies' discoveries was a factor too. The country wasnt starting from scratch.
effectivement même si ces recherches ont été emporté en Angleterre quand les allemands sont arrivés afin d'éviter qu'ils tombent entre leurs mains
Yes because nukes are fully French, we invented it in 1939 but never bulid or try it and USA just took the plan and say that was there idea. And we nether said it because, we are not glad of it (it killed more than 300 000 people)
The atom was first split in Manchester UK in 1917.
Robert Esnault too
France: USSR if you invade us you lose half of Ukraine and Belarus.
Chernobyl: Nah, I can do that just fine myself.
france is bassically now the quiet kid who got bullied, but bought himself an automatic rifle, so to avoid another shooting they leave it alone :P
Something I’ve always found interesting is how the US and UK feel like they can telling other countries they can’t have nukes even though we are the only country ever to use them
The U.S. invented the Bomb, so every other nuclear power is stealing American intellectual property. That is so dishonest.
@@OrdenJust its join experiment dumbass, and knowledge don't have master. The moment US patent the nuclear technology as their own other will try to learn them sooner or later, after all there is endless way but only one truth
@@OrdenJust and UKs * - The British had already conducted years of research into atomic bombs prior to the Manhatten project and gave that info to the USA, as well as providing multiple scientists that helped create it.
Nations that can, do. If the U.S. is unique it's in that we're in the position in the first place.
@@OrdenJust well the French discovered atomic energy, atoms and how to use it thanks to the Curie family, so did the US stole intellectual property ?
"Raditation doesn't care for borders"
My parents: Maybe I am radiation
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2:55 lmao I like how Mao is just lurking
Had an idea for a nuclear deterent that I also later saw in a super hero cartoon, I think it was the 90s xmen. Either that or one of the justice league. It was a device that could disable any nuclear bomb or radiation, effectively making the bomb useless apart from maybe falling onto someone's house. The danger of it was it could be used as a weapon by being thrown at the sun and turning it off, but that wasn't what I was interested in. Something that could stop a super weapon without loss of life, imagine.
thank you dude, you're one of the only youtubers who take time to explain the history of my country, and not only USA/UK
My favorite part of this channel is the amount of support this has been getting without ever having to put a single piece of music or jingle outside of an explosion or a thud.
Yeah the graphics are quite simple and usually repeats of graphics from other videos but the concepts are clear and make sense even in short videos.
0:13 let’s be real it’s the opsit way around
Questions that keeps me awake at night
"Nuclear radiation doesn't care for borders" - History Matters. best line this year
The French position on Chernobyl does not agree
@@jimmyneutron129What do you mean? All the *experts* and *official documents* agree: the cloud of nuclear dust just so happens to stop at the French border!
The government even made cool maps to inform everyone of the non-danger that they faced!
Hm that's why only France among the 1 world countries supported India's nuclear program
They know it's importance
Love to France from India ❤️😇
I respect India for leading the Third world (in the original sense, meaning non aligned with the soviets or Americans) during the 20th century. I really hope India can continue to rise and for the friendship between our nations to grow. Much love from France.
@@InnocentKhajiit Especially if they keep buying our aircrafts and ships
You guys made a good decision when buying the Rafale C for your air force. May we suggest the Rafale M for your navy ?
@@aftershok98 Hahaha commercial en toutes circonstances
@@InnocentKhajiit On fait bien ce qu'il faut
The Manhattan project was initiated with the British Tube Alloys Project before transferring to the USA. Nations involved were USA, Britain and Canada. Britain did not 'copy' the american bombs, they had full access at the time. In fact Britain had to give USA shaped charges to make them work.
French engineers are pioneers in nuclear engineering lol
Oh wow... this is new, I thought this was months or years old xD
Me too!!
US reaction: "We may not want the Soviets to have nuclear weapons, but we REALLY don't want the French to."
Well obviously because between the Soviets and the US things were standoffish.
The Cold War wasn't that cold. Lots of proxy conflicts across the globe.
France, and to the greater extent, Europe, did not wish to become a battlefield again.
Which lead to it instead becoming the parking lot for nuclear weapons. On both sides.
Which was deterrent and insured no side would try anything on that front. Not without risking global nuclear winter.
I don’t mind if they do. - American
France without nukes has to follow USA lead in WW3 breaking out in Europe. France with nukes is going to declare "fuck you all, I'm neutral" and it would work until USA and USSR start glassing each others' cities. In the latter case ofc French nukes wouldn't help them anyhow but USA and USSR may start destruction of modern civilization but may also not, holding themselves into the frame of "nearly conventional war in Europe and Pacific". In the second scenario avoiding taking part in it as a ground for the fight is WAY better than participation as one.
Anyway, point is that USA could strong-arm any state into accepting their protection from the evil Soviets (and making itself guaranteed target of nuclear strike if it finally comes to this) but it wouldn't have worked with any proper nuclear power because such one could ensure its protection and even neutrality without sacrificing souvereignity to someone. So, of course they were not happy with France going for the nukes.
@@mdokuch96 I doubt France to stay neutral in case of a WWIII. I base my opinion on De Gaulle action himself. During the cuuban missiles affair, DG was the first to call JFK and to inform him that France would stand right shoulders to shoulders with USA there. French navy of Atlantic left french port and has been put herself at the service of US navy.
De Gaulle wanted an independent France able to defend herself but there's no way a chance he was pro-communist. He was anti-commies like most of french military men. He knew and has done France to be in the western camp even if he didn't resist to pay back US/UK with leaving the integrating command of NATO (but REMAINED member of NATO) and He did a travel to Moscow to piss off Americans, and he did his famous speech in Quebec to piss off anglo-sphere as well :) To recall Anglos had began with FDR and his AMGOT, USA with not supporting France at Suez etc...
Oh and I forgot, France had 2 strong army corps in Germany after WWII. A non negligeable presence, behind USA and german army but far ahead other allies troops present (UK included).
URSS were well aware the problem a french nuke detterence (and its policy) was posing. In many plans, Red armies had for order to avoid contact with french troops in case of war with the west, because they were knowing what British and Americans would do with their nukes but for French, Russians were not sure that these damn frogs wouldn't use them even if Russian were doing only a conventionnal war.
Napelon is gonna have a fun time when he wakes up from his nap.
Catch the Terence and Philip wall portrait @ 1:56. Nice!
I love how all his videos about stuff that have never crossed my mind.
02:54 "(France) joined the club as its fourth member"
chairman Mao : SOON
LOL I saw that too