Found a champion generator sitting at the end of a driveway on my way home from work. Stopped an asked the owner about it. He said its junk, won't run properly, take it, its yours. Brought it home and watched your video. Fixed the issue in 20 minutes. Little jet was plugged with debris. Generator runs like new now. I was pretty excited to get it working.
@@johnnysweekendsthank you so much bro! My RV generator with only 300 hours has had EVERY small engine part replaced and I was about to give up and look into a new one! Will try this before we get on the road again!
Great job! This video was clear, concise, and straight to the point. After watching other 'how-to' videos, this was the one that truly helped me. Thank you!
After cleaning the carburetor and still not solving the problem I discovered the Champion carburetor I needed was out of stock. Then I stumbled onto your page. You solved my problem! Thank you, thank you and Thank You!
Love the video!!! I bought a predator used from a guy a few weeks ago not ever running it until tonight when it started surging than shut down and would not start back up again!! I literally would have taken a hundred for it I was furious!! It would run smoothly for 3 min than starting to surging and than died would not restart again for 10 min. After following your instructions it works Awsome!!!
Yesss!! Glad it worked and the video helped. Predator is a good unit just keep the oil clean and spray run a fuel stabilizer or conditioner and your good. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment to let us know 💪🏼😀👊🏼
Worked like a CHAMP… fresh out of the box…WEN 3800.. surging idle…as the poster described… followed his exact directions … 10 minutes later .. generator is running smoothly.. big thanks
You Sir are a genius! This fix worked perfectly on our brand new Westinghouse iGen4500 DFc!!! Dang jet had the tiniest piece of blue plastic in it! Cleared it out just as you directed and now she's purring like a kitten and will be all set for our weekend camping trip! Thank you for saving the day and our trip!!
Good to know. Just fixed my old Coleman 5500 with a Yamaha engine. Almost 20 years old runs like a champ again. Have a new predator 5000. Will make sure to keep the gas clean...if not now I know how to fix it.
I want to say thank you. We rode through hurricane Ian overnight and lost power as expected. I woke up this morning to hook the important stuff up to my Cummins Onan 4900i, which we have used for camping and back up for the last year. I ran it yesterday for 2 hours to make sure everything worked and I had good gas in with out a hitch at all. I hooked it up today, and what you described is exactly what it did. I went through everything trying to find the problem for 3 hours in the rain. I had almost given up when I found your video. That was they exact problem. 5 minutes and she was running perfectly. Thank you for the video.
Yesssssssssss 👏🏼🙌🏼 so glad this was able to help you especially as you were getting ready to throw in the towel. I’m glad you are up and running and hope everyone is safe. Thanks so much for the comment and letting me know. 🙏🏼😊👍🏼
This started happening on my buddy’s predator whisper 9000 he let me borrow. This informative video made it an easy fix and probably saved a friendship. Cheers
Hello Johnny's... THANKS for the tips. With the knowledge in your post, I was able to fix my Champion model 75537i 3100/2800 watt which had developed the dreaded SURGING symptom. The ECO needle on this carb is BURIED. 1) Turn FUEL control to OFF, run till it quits to empty the carb and fuel line. Drain fuel from the carb bowl by loosening the Phillips screw near the bottom of the bowl. 2) Remove the plastic end of the unit (nearest the wheels). 3) Remove 4 bolts holding the heat sink. Rotate the assembly to allow removal of the air filter housing. 4) Remove air filter, remove the two nuts holding the carb to the engine. 5) Unplug the two carb wires at the plug end. 6) Remove the carb from the unit. Take it to a table or bench so that you don't loose any small parts. 7) Now is a good time to add a small in-line fuel filter in the fuel line between the tank and the carb. 8) Remove one flathead and two round head Phillips screws from the servo frame to separate the carb control unit from the main carb. 9) Remove the brass (or is in bronze?) needle. Clean it like Johnny mentions. 10) Clean the needle and the rest of the carb insides with spray carb cleaner. DRAIN ANY REMAINING CARB CLEANER FROM THE BOWL as in step 1. 11) Re-assemble the unit and check it out. IT WORKED FOR ME !!! Thanks again Johnny's
Uhh some of the champions are not fun..😂 But I’m glad this helped you out. And you did the full job!! Nice. Thanks for letting me know and sharing ..👍🏼😀
Thank you so much ! I was frustrated started a busy day with this problem. Watched video followed instructions 10 minutes later my geny is running smooth .
My Generac RS7000E did the same thing. Amazingly enough, the slow jet was almost exactly the type your first example showed. No more almost full choke to run smooth. Kudos!
WOW! Thank you so much. My generator behaved exactly like your example. I cleaned the jet with one strand of wire, counted the turns on the screw driver and BAM, it worked. Thanks again!!! i was about to install a new carb too!!!!
Going through several clips did not help. This is exactly what I am looking for. It solves problem quickly. After cleaning up carburetor, fuel line,... generator is still surge badly in running in idle mode or light load . Thanks a lot for your video
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!! Just got my WEN GN400i out to test and prep for Florida summer and it gave me all the typical issues. Wouldn't turn on... Got it to run but shut off when closed choke. Got it to stay running but then it was idling rough. This is the trick! 😀
Unboxed my new Champion and it started the surging thing immediately.. got on TH-cam found this post, went to the garage and fixed my generator.. now I’m back to say thanks
Thanks for the video! I spent the last few months trying to figure out why my Champion was pulsating. This fixed it in a few minutes….well after I recovered the screw out of the pan (like you warned about)!
OMG, thank you so much! I was having the exact same issue with my brand new predator and it was so frustrating since it was brand new. Tried everything including deep cleaning of carburetor and nothing worked. I found your video and fix the issue in 5 min. You are the best. Thanks!
Thank you. Had to dig my carb out of my Champion 2000 but found the low speed jet on the back side, plunged with wire as in your example, reassembled and now running like new.
First time checking out your channel.. had to look to see if I was watching project farm.. I love his videos and you sound like lol good informational video here
Wow thank you 😀👍🏼 Yea I Love Todd, he is a wealth of knowledge for sure. Love his channel. If I can be compared to even a little that’s awesome 🤩 Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👊🏼👍🏼
I was just about to start looking around for a solution to my predator doing the same thing after a complete carb clean - you nailed it, i had no clue that was there. Ill check that and pretty sure itll solve my issue! Thanks man- now id love to tap into both ac windings to get a switched 230v 30amp breaker/outlet plumbed on there
Well done! It's amazing that almost none of the small inverter gens come with any inline fuel filter. Some of the Honda's have a screen on the inlet side of the fuel shutoff, but that's about it.
My Firman 3650 did this from day one. Any time the choke lever was set to run it would hunt. Mine was exactly the same as the first example and when I took it apart I couldn't see any issues and could blow through the jet. I followed the instructions with the wire and hit it with some brake cleaner. Now once it's warmed up for a minute I can put it in run and it idles smooth.
Johnny…I know you’re not a service channel, but I have the Genmax 3500 ied that you have recommended. It ran out of gas, and must’ve sucked up some small debris and now it keeps surging. You can’t get to the jet on this model like the ones you show in this video. Have you ever tried to do this (clean the jets) on a Genmax 3500 ied? Maybe something that would make a good video. Thanks.
Yea if I remember it’s on the inside of the carb which does make it a little more difficult. I think air intake tube comes off and propane line and I think you can get to it. If not it’s almost full carb removal. You have to remove enough stuff to get to it. It’s almost always the same jet if it idles bad or is hard starting or surges at very low loads. But middle and upper loads runs fine. That’s a sure way to know it’s a jet. Also don’t run them out of gas if you can especially with a load. That’s a quicker way to burn up inverters. 👍🏼 Let me know what ya find
have a brandnew champion dual fuel , never used gas, only lpg. on eco mode it waves up and down. not with some load. do you think i have to clean it on a brandnew one? does it apply to lpg at all? thx and keep on making that great videos!
Hello. A plugged carb will not effect lpg, so more of a carb adjustment problem out possibly bad spark plug. Cheap and easy try is a new ngk plug. Just need cross over off existing and close the a little from stated. So if it says .028-.032 set to .024-.027. Next would be carb adjust. There is a black screw and is plastic. Turn it in one turn at a time but mark where it is set now. Clint one turn try generator on eco then a load. If not running right try another turn in, and try eco and a load again. It shouldn’t take more then 5 turns unless watts off. Again count your turns. And run generator from start up to full load and back to idle. If runs normal then done. You’ll turn screw in, clockwise..👍🏼 Let me know
I have had new generators with a plugged low speed jet. Just because it’s new doesn’t mean the smallest bit of debris couldn’t get in there. Maybe in the tank…maybe in the line, who knows. Double check low speed jet to be sure, new spark plug, if not could be inverter problem if all else is good like compression.
hello john how about adding fuel filter to this system i have rato generator copy of champion with same engine.i added a small fuel filter just before carburater fuel inlet.
I just bought a brand new wen dual fuel inverter generator and it's surging with no load but fine with a load. Wen just sent me a brand new carburetor and said that's probably the issue. Do you think it may be what you described in this video? Should I at least try this first?
yes! I have new gens come with a plugged small jet. And if they send a new carb and you fix the orignal well now you have a spare. Go for it! nothing to loose. Report back !!
Johnny, Any chance you could check the Westinghouse’s number of turns for the idle screw. I have been searching the web for the last 2 days with no joy😢. Your videos are the best!
Ahh I don’t remember off the top of my head and I don’t have that unit anymore. But I think it was 5 turns 😬 But back it all the way out with it running and you will see the throttle bounce back and forth. Turn it in till it stops bouncing and then is running steady. Then shut of and on a couple times to make sure it operates like normal And thank you 😀👍🏼
I have a bohmer ag 4500i inverter generator surging trying to follow this video to fix as am living off grid use for electric fridge, charging appliance etc.. can't seem to locate the plastic idle screw is it possible that it on far side of carb which will require a complete dissasebly of the unit or it doesn't have one , can only notice brass scree which is horizontal has something to do with throttle as go's grazy high revs if it move it , any idea please?
Try to get a mirror and look around the carb. Most use the same two or three carbs it seems. Have you done the other basic maintenance items? Clean air filter? New spark plug? Clean spark arrestor?
@@johnnysweekends It was on a sale for $319 when I purchased last week. It's back up to $450ish now. I decided to take a chance. It appears to be identical to the Generac 2200 judging from some forum posts.
Yup it is. Could have a different inverter board but I doubt it. Most of these have a twin somewhere or even a triple depending how many companies want the model.
More then likely it’s the small jet or just a spark plug. Sometimes it’s the simplest things. Here is a video on the small jet. This will give you a idea on how to fix it. 👍🏼😀 th-cam.com/video/g219A_ywyHs/w-d-xo.html
Bummer, I tried you trick but it did not work. Do you think I need to replace the whole carb? I took it out clean the whole thing and did you tip as well and nothing. 😢 I may have to buy a new carb just hesitant bc the generator is bran new. Mmmmm?
If what ever unit is brand new then the first thing to do is return and get a refund. It may not be the carb it self but the stepper motors so refund/ return first
I have a predator 2000 inverter/ generator and my carburetor doesn't look anything like the one your show it runs from side not straight up and down like the one that you showing. I've taken both side panels off and neither side looks like the one in your video. So I still have have surging and running rough problem. I've tried running new gas in the tank but that did not fix it .if you would like I can send you a picture of it . By the way sometimes if I leave it in start position it will run find for a little but as soon as I put a load on it starts surging again
Yes your low speed jet is plugged if you are able to run it on choke for a bit. And it will probably run off eco on high idle.. These are the bigger models so yes the carb on the smaller models like your predator 2000 is different. You will have to remove the side panel where the air filter is and remove the air box and possibly the carb. Or at least slide it back to get to the jet. Unfortunately the smaller models are a little tougher.
Yeah I tried all that. I literally ran around a half tank of gas through it and stored it with stable in it and started it every month but the last time I started it the battery was dead and it is surging.
Does it run better in eco mode on or off? Have you tried to run it with full choke or half choke to see if it will run normal? Unscrew gas cap maybe to see if it’s venting correctly
I have a brand new champion 4650 watt generator and when I turned it on it started shaking a lot so I turned it off and havnt used it since. Does anyone knows why is tht??
Manually operate the choke on the inside and see if anything changes. If not then very good chance the small jet just like in this video will need to be cleaned.
For some reason I think when they test run them somehow they are not getting them cleaned out. And the smallest piece of debris can clog that little jet. You’re one of many with this problem and doesn’t matter the brand. Just seems to happen. If you don’t wanna mess with it return it asap.
@@johnnysweekends ya was thinking about that. but it runs normally for hrs. I also pulled it to check and threads are striped on the tip. but ya I will try that as it cant hurt nothing.
@clamojoat1938 does it run on second start? Odd…but if it runs that what really matters. I have some that start and run for a couple seconds and dies and then pull again and away it goes
Bro people don’t need to know all the confusing names when people be asking for a clamp, snap, stat, Kelly, mosquitoe and more. Laymen terms bro, laymen 😂😂👍🏼😉
That didn’t work. My husband had 30 years of experience with generators and he has done everything beyond what most people would have done and it still power surges- running rough. This is brand new and it’s going back. A lemon
Mine didnt work either. Surging at idle but idles fine under load. Removed that needle, cleaned it, soaked it and put it back in, still surging. Spent $100 on a new jet ... SAME SURGING AT IDLE ... 🤷🏽♂️ Firman P03608 3650W Generator ..
@@johnnysweekends its odd because i use this generator to power my shed and i have been using this generator since 2017 ... 5 yrs now and it runs weekly so it always gets fresh ethanol free fuel every time it runs low. Just 2 weeks ago i power it up as i always do and then it starts to surge at idle .... Everyone on TH-cam and you all say its that jet ... well, not for me. Guess i will have to take it off and see if its clogged.
After a while these little carbs just turn to junk. Even on boats and more. They do eventually go bad no matter what you do. And it doesn’t take much. It could be a small piece of debris in a passage. Most are like $35 to replace a lot of these maybe you to $85.
Didnt work. Pulled that jet out, cleaned it, soaked it .... same surging on idle. Purchased a new one for $100 and the same surging at idle. Amazing how everything seems to work in TH-cam world but in real world, nothing works ...
So many people have done this technique and has worked for them. You can Red many reviews. It’s hard when I don’t know the age of the unit or the care and more. Have you checked the spark arrestor in the exhaust..? Or new plug?
@@johnnysweekends Trust me i KNOW that this has worked for many based on comments but it didnt work for me. I use this generator weekly and burn off 5 gallons a week for 5 yrs with ethanol free fuel from day 1 and last week i crank it up and gets idle surge. Pulled that jet, cleaned, soaked, nothing. Purchased a new one, same issue. The carburetor is identical to yours. Its not like it has been sitting for months or years and its old gas or clogged, its used weekly and burns off 5 gallons a week and its under constant load. It just does not make sense to me ...
I assume other items have been checked? New spark plug? Have you cleaned spark arrestor? Also carburetors can eventually just go bad. Shen I worked on boats and jet skis which I still do on the side, sometimes no matter how many times you clean a carb or even rebuild it, they just go bad. Very common in older marine vessels. Even my buddies weed whacker, just a few weeks ago I said just buy a new carb if you still like it, they are only $30. Said it runs like new now. Eventually they just go bad but are cheap to replace.
@@johnnysweekends i guess its just frustrating how 95% of the comments say this fixed their problem yet here i am saying it didn't ... Especially when this thing is ran weekly and i burn thru 5 gallons a week so its constantly running, it doesnt sit at all for the fuel to go old or to clog up the passage ways ... I dont recall seeing a fuel filter between the tank and the carb so maybe its possible a spec or something go into that pilot jet passage and it clogging it up 🤷🏽♂️ But at some point i will pull the carb and do a full cleaning on it, because it runs fine under load right now and thats all that matters now.
Well I also would say 90% percent of the people with this problem are the ones who just use there generators for emergencies or seasonal. You use it alot so things will wear out. Generator engines vibrate constantly so they can wear parts in the carburetor like the float bowl pin and more. So with your use a in line filter would be a good idea and if a fuel carb clean and maybe rebuild doesn’t do it, well a replacement may be needed.
what a weak design is the carburetor. Tiny little debris can foul them. Fuel injection solved most of the issues. I generally hate carburetors because they always need cleaning, adjusting, setting, or just a good cursing :-)
@@johnnysweekends Like it did on cars too ! My issue of carb today is a champion 2200 power inverter generator. Brand new, ran twice for 15 minutes. Last ran over the summer. Gas had stabilizer, but drained it anyway. It starts with choke on and dies within a second. I keep pulling, nothing. I let it sit for a minute, pull starts up, then dies won't start. I tried pushing the choke back, no luck. no start, no running. The darn thing is brand new. I checked plug, clean as a new plug should be. Bought it one year ago, tested, ran it for 15 min, all was good, loved it put it away. I tested it during summer, all was good, put stabilizer in, put it away. Snow storm coming, no start. I really hate it :-) Please help !
If it runs with the choke on oh at high rpm then the small jet is plugged and you’ll need to pull the jet out and clean it. You’ll instantly know if it’s the small jet if it runs with choke on or with eco off and some rpm because it will be on the main jet. You just have to get it running long enough. It’s always the stupid jet and I feel stabil doesn’t work as good as it should. I have switched back to Lucas which I used for years and now I seem to have no issues. I used stabil for several years and every year my lawn mower or weed eater wouldn’t start. So clean everything and good to go. Now with the Lucas stuff the last 3 years no issues with my lawn mower. It’s the last lawn care item I have that’s gas. When it dies or I find a smoking deal on a used ego it’s gone. Trying to simplify my life not add more issues and maintenance 😂👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends I can't get to the jet. This is a different model. Not so easy access. It looks like the carb has to come off or I do not know what to do. I do not see anything like on your video. This is mine : Champion Power Equipment 100692 2000-Watt Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight - The side access allows you to change air filter and see the chose side. There is a small electronic actuator that controls the idle. If I pull on the choke lever - full choke - the engine starts and the throttle lever supposed to add "gas" and take over. Well it does for a few seconds but then snaps back to zero position and engine stalls. There is a throttle adjustment screw on that lever but won't help.
Yea don’t turn the screw but yea that model you have to pull the yellow side panel off with the two screws. Remove air box then the two bolts for the carb to get to the jet. You may only have to remove the air box and maybe slide the carb back a little to get to the jet. Just depends on the model.
Hope this helped everyone a little with this problem..👍🏼
Great video, you are thorough and straight to the point.
Thank you, glad you liked it. And I try to just give the goods lol….
Thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
Found a champion generator sitting at the end of a driveway on my way home from work. Stopped an asked the owner about it. He said its junk, won't run properly, take it, its yours. Brought it home and watched your video. Fixed the issue in 20 minutes. Little jet was plugged with debris. Generator runs like new now. I was pretty excited to get it working.
Awesome dude!!! Scored 💪🏼👍🏼
You are the Mannn! We are prepping for a long RV trip and Champion was surging. You saved me a lot of time. Very well done!!!
Thank you, and glad I could help. Now you can be the man!! 👍🏼😀😂👊🏼
@@johnnysweekendsthank you so much bro! My RV generator with only 300 hours has had EVERY small engine part replaced and I was about to give up and look into a new one! Will try this before we get on the road again!
On boards can be a little different but you would be surprised what that small jet does or even a bad spark plug.
Let me know if it works 👍🏼
Great job! This video was clear, concise, and straight to the point. After watching other 'how-to' videos, this was the one that truly helped me. Thank you!
Yess! 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Thank you for that sir. I will definitely be doing this small repair on my genset as it has the same issue. Very helpful
Amazing, you fixed my problem!!!!! Great job, straight to the point. Keep up the good work
Yesss!!! 💪🏼👍🏼😀👊🏼
After cleaning the carburetor and still not solving the problem I discovered the Champion carburetor I needed was out of stock. Then I stumbled onto your page. You solved my problem! Thank you, thank you and Thank You!
Yessss 🙌🏼🙌🏼 so glad it helped. Now you can be awesome and help the next guy.
Be like, oh I can fix it, hold on 😁😂👊🏼
Phenomenal! Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! Champion 4500 runs like a champion again, thanks to you!! 😃
Glad it helped! 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Love the video!!! I bought a predator used from a guy a few weeks ago not ever running it until tonight when it started surging than shut down and would not start back up again!! I literally would have taken a hundred for it I was furious!! It would run smoothly for 3 min than starting to surging and than died would not restart again for 10 min. After following your instructions it works Awsome!!!
Yesss!! Glad it worked and the video helped. Predator is a good unit just keep the oil clean and spray run a fuel stabilizer or conditioner and your good. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment to let us know 💪🏼😀👊🏼
Worked like a CHAMP… fresh out of the box…WEN 3800.. surging idle…as the poster described… followed his exact directions … 10 minutes later .. generator is running smoothly.. big thanks
Awesome, so glad I could help. And thanks for watching 👊🏼👍🏼😀
You Sir are a genius! This fix worked perfectly on our brand new Westinghouse iGen4500 DFc!!! Dang jet had the tiniest piece of blue plastic in it! Cleared it out just as you directed and now she's purring like a kitten and will be all set for our weekend camping trip! Thank you for saving the day and our trip!!
AWESOME !! Glad it worked for ya. So simple right. Now you can help a friend and be the badass…!! 😉😁👍🏼
Good to know. Just fixed my old Coleman 5500 with a Yamaha engine. Almost 20 years old runs like a champ again. Have a new predator 5000. Will make sure to keep the gas clean...if not now I know how to fix it.
I want to say thank you. We rode through hurricane Ian overnight and lost power as expected. I woke up this morning to hook the important stuff up to my Cummins Onan 4900i, which we have used for camping and back up for the last year. I ran it yesterday for 2 hours to make sure everything worked and I had good gas in with out a hitch at all. I hooked it up today, and what you described is exactly what it did. I went through everything trying to find the problem for 3 hours in the rain. I had almost given up when I found your video. That was they exact problem. 5 minutes and she was running perfectly. Thank you for the video.
Yesssssssssss 👏🏼🙌🏼 so glad this was able to help you especially as you were getting ready to throw in the towel.
I’m glad you are up and running and hope everyone is safe. Thanks so much for the comment and letting me know. 🙏🏼😊👍🏼
This started happening on my buddy’s predator whisper 9000 he let me borrow. This informative video made it an easy fix and probably saved a friendship. Cheers
Lol that’s awesome, glad I could help. Now he will never know…. Well unless he reads this comment 🤔🤔😂👍🏼
Executed like Project Farm, clear and concise! Thank you Sir! 😎
😀 wow thank you !!! 👍🏼👊🏼 hope it helped !!
Hello Johnny's... THANKS for the tips. With the knowledge in your post, I was able to fix my Champion model 75537i 3100/2800 watt which had developed the dreaded SURGING symptom. The ECO needle on this carb is BURIED. 1) Turn FUEL control to OFF, run till it quits to empty the carb and fuel line. Drain fuel from the carb bowl by loosening the Phillips screw near the bottom of the bowl. 2) Remove the plastic end of the unit (nearest the wheels). 3) Remove 4 bolts holding the heat sink. Rotate the assembly to allow removal of the air filter housing. 4) Remove air filter, remove the two nuts holding the carb to the engine. 5) Unplug the two carb wires at the plug end. 6) Remove the carb from the unit. Take it to a table or bench so that you don't loose any small parts. 7) Now is a good time to add a small in-line fuel filter in the fuel line between the tank and the carb. 8) Remove one flathead and two round head Phillips screws from the servo frame to separate the carb control unit from the main carb. 9) Remove the brass (or is in bronze?) needle. Clean it like Johnny mentions. 10) Clean the needle and the rest of the carb insides with spray carb cleaner. DRAIN ANY REMAINING CARB CLEANER FROM THE BOWL as in step 1. 11) Re-assemble the unit and check it out. IT WORKED FOR ME !!! Thanks again Johnny's
Uhh some of the champions are not fun..😂
But I’m glad this helped you out. And you did the full job!! Nice.
Thanks for letting me know and sharing ..👍🏼😀
Thank you so much ! I was frustrated started a busy day with this problem. Watched video followed instructions 10 minutes later my geny is running smooth .
Dude yesssss!!!! Glad you got it going and this helped.
Thanks for letting me know and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
My Generac RS7000E did the same thing. Amazingly enough, the slow jet was almost exactly the type your first example showed. No more almost full choke to run smooth. Kudos!
Awesome glad this helped 😀👍🏼👊🏼
WOW! Thank you so much. My generator behaved exactly like your example. I cleaned the jet with one strand of wire, counted the turns on the screw driver and BAM, it worked. Thanks again!!! i was about to install a new carb too!!!!
Yessss!!! Glad it helped ya out. Now when you have a buddy or someone else has this problem, you to can be awesome !! 😂👊🏼👍🏼😀
Nice worked for my AiPower7100 from Costco. Very good video.
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This fixed mine right up! Thanks for the video!
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Heck yeah! This quick fix solved the surging problem on my Generac GP3000i. Thank you!
Yessss!!! Awesome glad it helped 😀👍🏼
That was great. I have an older Champion and it was wearing me out yanking the cord. Sat down, carb cleaner that bowl, poof- ran. Thanks, Subscribed.
Awesome!!!! So glad it helped out and thanks so much for the comment and sub..👊🏼👍🏼😀
Thanks so much. Trying to get ready for storm weather here in Florida. You save me.
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Just went through Hurricane Ian with a surging generator. Wish I saw this video about 2 hours ago because It is fixed now. Awesome man!! Thanks
Nice well now you know it’s a easy fix!!! Glad you are safe and powered up!! 👊🏼👍🏼
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Nice! My carb was different in that the jet was a brass screw type but I cleaned it out (with a brush bristle) and it now issues perfectly! Thank you.
Awesome glad it worked, and thanks for stopping by 👍🏼😀👊🏼
Going through several clips did not help. This is exactly what I am looking for. It solves problem quickly. After cleaning up carburetor, fuel line,... generator is still surge badly in running in idle mode or light load . Thanks a lot for your video
You’re welcome!! So did this work? Did you get it working correctly??
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!! Just got my WEN GN400i out to test and prep for Florida summer and it gave me all the typical issues. Wouldn't turn on... Got it to run but shut off when closed choke. Got it to stay running but then it was idling rough. This is the trick! 😀
Wow awesome so glad I could help and it was a simple fix. Enjoy your generator…😀👍🏼👊🏼
Unboxed my new Champion and it started the surging thing immediately.. got on TH-cam found this post, went to the garage and fixed my generator.. now I’m back to say thanks
Awesome!! Glad I could help. Even though you shouldn’t have to do that .
Enjoy your new generator
I just bought a brand new Predator 2000 and it has the smallest surge but i think I’m going to do the same.
This actually worked. Thanks alot! Generac 3000i fixed!
You’re welcome glad it worked. Normally not to hard.. 😀👍🏼
Thanks for the video! I spent the last few months trying to figure out why my Champion was pulsating. This fixed it in a few minutes….well after I recovered the screw out of the pan (like you warned about)!
Awesome glad it helped… and yup the abyss will get you 😂👍🏼
Trust the process - I had the same issue on my Craftsman 2500. Like the description said, "5 min fix" , awesome video. Thank you!
Awesome glad it worked and thanks for the feedback 😀👍🏼👊🏼
success! my generator is running smooth now and it was extremely easy. thank you.
That’s awesome so glad I could help…👍🏼😀
OMG, thank you so much! I was having the exact same issue with my brand new predator and it was so frustrating since it was brand new. Tried everything including deep cleaning of carburetor and nothing worked. I found your video and fix the issue in 5 min. You are the best. Thanks!
Awesome glad I could help 👍🏼
And thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
Yeah I have a new predator that started doing this after about 8 hours. I'm going to try it this weekend when I get to the shop.
Let me know if this fixes it ..👍🏼
my is a craftsman i3300 with the same problem and i fixed in 5 minutes thanks 🙏🏿
Dude!!! That’s awesome glad it helped C💪🏼👊🏼👍🏼
This fixed it for us! Thank you for sharing this great information in a easy to consume format.
You’re welcome glad it helped 😀👍🏼
Thanks for the tip. Had a similar suitcase generator surging in ECO and this fixed it, thank you.
Awesome glad it helped 😀👍🏼
well , this solved my problem of eratic running : after cleaning that part, the problem was goen. Thanks !!
Yess!!! 💪🏼👊🏼
Nice video. Helped me probably thousand others.
That’s what it’s for.. glad it worked👍🏼😀
Did this and bingo. Fixed the rough idle 😁 cheers for making this video 👍
Awesome glad it helped 😀👍🏼
Worked great, thank you
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THANKS! Fixed my idle in less than 10 minutes!
Awesome 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Thank you. Had to dig my carb out of my Champion 2000 but found the low speed jet on the back side, plunged with wire as in your example, reassembled and now running like new.
Awesome glad I could ..👍🏼😀
Johnny, thank you so much for this youtube! It worked like a charm on my Westinghouse
Awesome so glad this worked for you.!! 😀👍🏼👊🏼
Had to work on a generac iq3500 surging, dies wen in eco mode, cleaned carb and jet under throttle screw boom, good as new 👍
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Well narrated and hopeful
Running perfect now! 🎉
Yessss!!! Glad this helped and thanks for letting me know 😀👍🏼
Fixed my Champion 4500 dual fuel. Thanks!
Awesome, glad it helped. The champion has some stuff in the way 😂👍🏼
First time checking out your channel.. had to look to see if I was watching project farm.. I love his videos and you sound like lol good informational video here
Wow thank you 😀👍🏼
Yea I Love Todd, he is a wealth of knowledge for sure. Love his channel.
If I can be compared to even a little that’s awesome 🤩
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👊🏼👍🏼
I was just about to start looking around for a solution to my predator doing the same thing after a complete carb clean - you nailed it, i had no clue that was there. Ill check that and pretty sure itll solve my issue! Thanks man- now id love to tap into both ac windings to get a switched 230v 30amp breaker/outlet plumbed on there
Let us know if it works..👍🏼
same exact thing to me i will try it to see how it goes
Great video! Thank you so much
What a well done, informative video!
Great job on the video!
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Well done!
It's amazing that almost none of the small inverter gens come with any inline fuel filter. Some of the Honda's have a screen on the inlet side of the fuel shutoff, but that's about it.
There is a filter a mesh one inside the tank. But I think it still lets small contaminates through.
If you read the manual said Clean Air Filter every 100 hrs..!
This is mainly fuel related and not air… did I miss something?
Most times it is..👍🏼
Worked like a charm , thank you
Nice!!!!! Glad it helped and got ya going 😀👍🏼
My Firman 3650 did this from day one. Any time the choke lever was set to run it would hunt. Mine was exactly the same as the first example and when I took it apart I couldn't see any issues and could blow through the jet. I followed the instructions with the wire and hit it with some brake cleaner. Now once it's warmed up for a minute I can put it in run and it idles smooth.
Awesome glad this helped. The jet is so small that even the slightest piece of debris can make them run rough.
I used white out to mark the position of the jet ..My Honda manual said clean air filter every 100 hrs...! And has a inline fuel filter fuel tank..
Johnny…I know you’re not a service channel, but I have the Genmax 3500 ied that you have recommended. It ran out of gas, and must’ve sucked up some small debris and now it keeps surging. You can’t get to the jet on this model like the ones you show in this video. Have you ever tried to do this (clean the jets) on a Genmax 3500 ied? Maybe something that would make a good video. Thanks.
Yea if I remember it’s on the inside of the carb which does make it a little more difficult.
I think air intake tube comes off and propane line and I think you can get to it.
If not it’s almost full carb removal. You have to remove enough stuff to get to it.
It’s almost always the same jet if it idles bad or is hard starting or surges at very low loads. But middle and upper loads runs fine. That’s a sure way to know it’s a jet.
Also don’t run them out of gas if you can especially with a load. That’s a quicker way to burn up inverters. 👍🏼
Let me know what ya find
Man!! Thank you!! 🙌
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have a brandnew champion dual fuel , never used gas, only lpg. on eco mode it waves up and down. not with some load. do you think i have to clean it on a brandnew one? does it apply to lpg at all? thx and keep on making that great videos!
Hello. A plugged carb will not effect lpg, so more of a carb adjustment problem out possibly bad spark plug.
Cheap and easy try is a new ngk plug. Just need cross over off existing and close the a little from stated. So if it says .028-.032 set to .024-.027.
Next would be carb adjust. There is a black screw and is plastic. Turn it in one turn at a time but mark where it is set now. Clint one turn try generator on eco then a load. If not running right try another turn in, and try eco and a load again. It shouldn’t take more then 5 turns unless watts off. Again count your turns.
And run generator from start up to full load and back to idle. If runs normal then done.
You’ll turn screw in, clockwise..👍🏼
Let me know
Super helpful thank you
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Question. Old champion generator. I installed a new carb, and fresh gas in a new gas tank. First start up- started surging. Suggestion? Thanks.
I have had new generators with a plugged low speed jet. Just because it’s new doesn’t mean the smallest bit of debris couldn’t get in there. Maybe in the tank…maybe in the line, who knows.
Double check low speed jet to be sure, new spark plug, if not could be inverter problem if all else is good like compression.
Thank you. Will clean jets, change plug, and see what happens. Ty@@johnnysweekends
hello john how about adding fuel filter to this system i have rato generator copy of champion with same engine.i added a small fuel filter just before carburater fuel inlet.
Yes you can add an additional one to any of these if you want.
I just bought a brand new wen dual fuel inverter generator and it's surging with no load but fine with a load. Wen just sent me a brand new carburetor and said that's probably the issue. Do you think it may be what you described in this video? Should I at least try this first?
yes! I have new gens come with a plugged small jet. And if they send a new carb and you fix the orignal well now you have a spare. Go for it! nothing to loose. Report back !!
Fantastic video thanks
You’re welcome 😉
Johnny, Any chance you could check the Westinghouse’s number of turns for the idle screw. I have been searching the web for the last 2 days with no joy😢. Your videos are the best!
Ahh I don’t remember off the top of my head and I don’t have that unit anymore.
But I think it was 5 turns 😬
But back it all the way out with it running and you will see the throttle bounce back and forth. Turn it in till it stops bouncing and then is running steady.
Then shut of and on a couple times to make sure it operates like normal
And thank you 😀👍🏼
Thanks for the follow up Brother! Cheers
No problem hope you got it figured out
First comment! Thanks for the video
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Can you solve this for a Westinghouse IGEN2600? If there is a low speed jet I can't find it.
How do I do this on the ecoflow smart generator. Non duel fuel
It’s basically the same but jet is on far side of the carb so does make it harder and almost have to slide carb off.
Do you clean the pilot jet on the firman 3650 the same way as these?
I doing have a Firman. But the procedure should be the same as most of these all use the same two or 3 carbs it seems.
Cool stuff. This happens often cause they sit around to much not getting used.
Yes, use them at least once a month.
@@johnnysweekends Agree just fired mine up yesterday
I use mine every day and this is happening.
Did you clean it yet…?
Did you change the spark plug…
Inspect flame arrestor?
Let me know
I have a bohmer ag 4500i inverter generator surging trying to follow this video to fix as am living off grid use for electric fridge, charging appliance etc.. can't seem to locate the plastic idle screw is it possible that it on far side of carb which will require a complete dissasebly of the unit or it doesn't have one , can only notice brass scree which is horizontal has something to do with throttle as go's grazy high revs if it move it , any idea please?
Try to get a mirror and look around the carb. Most use the same two or three carbs it seems.
Have you done the other basic maintenance items?
Clean air filter?
New spark plug?
Clean spark arrestor?
@@johnnysweekends yes done the rest, thanks for reply have new genny ordered going on 2 wks now have an old genny borrowed from a friend
Interesting only thing to look at is the stepper motor on the top of carb. Is it going back and forth and maybe hold it manually
Woow thanks just got done
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Can you review the Westinghouse 2200 generator? It looks really good for the price.
How much is it right now..?
@@johnnysweekends Around $ 650
@@johnnysweekends It was on a sale for $319 when I purchased last week. It's back up to $450ish now. I decided to take a chance. It appears to be identical to the Generac 2200 judging from some forum posts.
Yup it is. Could have a different inverter board but I doubt it. Most of these have a twin somewhere or even a triple depending how many companies want the model.
Can the jet get clogged with using only propane ?
Nope, it never goes into the jet circuits
Would you like to test propane quick connect fittings
Can you please do a video on i power generator 2000 watts how to clean the jets?
I have a ai yamaha sc2300i generator 2300 1800 blue it's surging can you show me please how to fix
More then likely it’s the small jet or just a spark plug. Sometimes it’s the simplest things. Here is a video on the small jet. This will give you a idea on how to fix it. 👍🏼😀 th-cam.com/video/g219A_ywyHs/w-d-xo.html
Are you able to provide guidance for doing it on a generac IQ2000?
Should be the same
Bummer, I tried you trick but it did not work. Do you think I need to replace the whole carb? I took it out clean the whole thing and did you tip as well and nothing. 😢 I may have to buy a new carb just hesitant bc the generator is bran new. Mmmmm?
If what ever unit is brand new then the first thing to do is return and get a refund.
It may not be the carb it self but the stepper motors so refund/ return first
@@johnnysweekends thank you very much. I will try that then.
great video
Thank you..😀👍🏼
Sir if I have only used propane in my dual fuel champion, do I still clean the jet…
No because the propane bypasses the carb circuits and just goes through the main carb throat
I have a predator 2000 inverter/ generator and my carburetor doesn't look anything like the one your show it runs from side not straight up and down like the one that you showing. I've taken both side panels off and neither side looks like the one in your video. So I still have have surging and running rough problem. I've tried running new gas in the tank but that did not fix it .if you would like I can send you a picture of it . By the way sometimes if I leave it in start position it will run find for a little but as soon as I put a load on it starts surging again
Yes your low speed jet is plugged if you are able to run it on choke for a bit. And it will probably run off eco on high idle..
These are the bigger models so yes the carb on the smaller models like your predator 2000 is different. You will have to remove the side panel where the air filter is and remove the air box and possibly the carb. Or at least slide it back to get to the jet. Unfortunately the smaller models are a little tougher.
@@johnnysweekends 0k thanks for the info, so I've got more work cut out for me.
Yea unfortunately. Sorry
what if I forget to count de turns unscrewing the plastic bolt?
Most seem to all be at 4-6 turns out.
Fire it up and run it at eco mode, and eco off and see if it runs correct.
Sorry but I tried this on my predator 3500 but it is still surging. What should I try next ?
Did you change your spark plug??
Is the spark arrestor dirty??
Check those two items and maybe inspect and clean air filter.
Yeah I tried all that. I literally ran around a half tank of gas through it and stored it with stable in it and started it every month but the last time I started it the battery was dead and it is surging.
Does it run better in eco mode on or off?
Have you tried to run it with full choke or half choke to see if it will run normal?
Unscrew gas cap maybe to see if it’s venting correctly
Tried to read the closed caption, but even that is hard to follow!
Johnny, I'm sure you can do better!
I am..the newer stuff is slower, thanks for the feedback though, it was mentioned when I first started. Finding you way can be hard lol
I have a brand new champion 4650 watt generator and when I turned it on it started shaking a lot so I turned it off and havnt used it since. Does anyone knows why is tht??
Manually operate the choke on the inside and see if anything changes.
If not then very good chance the small jet just like in this video will need to be cleaned.
@@johnnysweekends but why would it need to be clean if it’s new?? It’s never been used.
For some reason I think when they test run them somehow they are not getting them cleaned out. And the smallest piece of debris can clog that little jet. You’re one of many with this problem and doesn’t matter the brand. Just seems to happen.
If you don’t wanna mess with it return it asap.
@@johnnysweekends thanks
what about one that dies one 1st start but runs on 2nd?
Try putting a new plug in. Use a basic NGK only … if propane tighten gap .010ths more then spec says…
@@johnnysweekends ya was thinking about that. but it runs normally for hrs. I also pulled it to check and threads are striped on the tip. but ya I will try that as it cant hurt nothing.
@@johnnysweekends just did this and same shit dies on 1st start
@clamojoat1938 does it run on second start? Odd…but if it runs that what really matters. I have some that start and run for a couple seconds and dies and then pull again and away it goes
@@johnnysweekends ya 2nd start manual chocking. auto choking it takes 5 tries after 1st
JW!
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I just let tru fuel flow through system.
True fuel will not unplug a clogged jet…. Unless it’s very minimal.
So now we're calling surgical clamps pliers eh?
Bro people don’t need to know all the confusing names when people be asking for a clamp, snap, stat, Kelly, mosquitoe and more. Laymen terms bro, laymen 😂😂👍🏼😉
That didn’t work. My husband had 30 years of experience with generators and he has done everything beyond what most people would have done and it still power surges- running rough. This is brand new and it’s going back. A lemon
What unit is it..?
Mine didnt work either.
Surging at idle but idles fine under load.
Removed that needle, cleaned it, soaked it and put it back in, still surging.
Spent $100 on a new jet ... SAME SURGING AT IDLE ... 🤷🏽♂️
Firman P03608 3650W Generator ..
Not a fan of the firman models but yea something isn’t right and still no response from the OP..🤷♂️
@@johnnysweekends its odd because i use this generator to power my shed and i have been using this generator since 2017 ... 5 yrs now and it runs weekly so it always gets fresh ethanol free fuel every time it runs low. Just 2 weeks ago i power it up as i always do and then it starts to surge at idle ....
Everyone on TH-cam and you all say its that jet ... well, not for me.
Guess i will have to take it off and see if its clogged.
After a while these little carbs just turn to junk. Even on boats and more. They do eventually go bad no matter what you do.
And it doesn’t take much. It could be a small piece of debris in a passage.
Most are like $35 to replace a lot of these maybe you to $85.
Stabil,stabil or you'll be doing this everytime.
😁👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 I replied in FB 👊🏼💪🏼
Didnt work.
Pulled that jet out, cleaned it, soaked it .... same surging on idle.
Purchased a new one for $100 and the same surging at idle.
Amazing how everything seems to work in TH-cam world but in real world, nothing works ...
So many people have done this technique and has worked for them. You can Red many reviews.
It’s hard when I don’t know the age of the unit or the care and more.
Have you checked the spark arrestor in the exhaust..? Or new plug?
@@johnnysweekends Trust me i KNOW that this has worked for many based on comments but it didnt work for me.
I use this generator weekly and burn off 5 gallons a week for 5 yrs with ethanol free fuel from day 1 and last week i crank it up and gets idle surge.
Pulled that jet, cleaned, soaked, nothing. Purchased a new one, same issue.
The carburetor is identical to yours. Its not like it has been sitting for months or years and its old gas or clogged, its used weekly and burns off 5 gallons a week and its under constant load.
It just does not make sense to me ...
I assume other items have been checked? New spark plug? Have you cleaned spark arrestor?
Also carburetors can eventually just go bad. Shen I worked on boats and jet skis which I still do on the side, sometimes no matter how many times you clean a carb or even rebuild it, they just go bad. Very common in older marine vessels. Even my buddies weed whacker, just a few weeks ago I said just buy a new carb if you still like it, they are only $30. Said it runs like new now.
Eventually they just go bad but are cheap to replace.
@@johnnysweekends i guess its just frustrating how 95% of the comments say this fixed their problem yet here i am saying it didn't ...
Especially when this thing is ran weekly and i burn thru 5 gallons a week so its constantly running, it doesnt sit at all for the fuel to go old or to clog up the passage ways ...
I dont recall seeing a fuel filter between the tank and the carb so maybe its possible a spec or something go into that pilot jet passage and it clogging it up 🤷🏽♂️
But at some point i will pull the carb and do a full cleaning on it, because it runs fine under load right now and thats all that matters now.
Well I also would say 90% percent of the people with this problem are the ones who just use there generators for emergencies or seasonal.
You use it alot so things will wear out. Generator engines vibrate constantly so they can wear parts in the carburetor like the float bowl pin and more. So with your use a in line filter would be a good idea and if a fuel carb clean and maybe rebuild doesn’t do it, well a replacement may be needed.
what a weak design is the carburetor. Tiny little debris can foul them. Fuel injection solved most of the issues. I generally hate carburetors because they always need cleaning, adjusting, setting, or just a good cursing :-)
Lol I agree, simple throttle body injection would be just fine. 👍🏼😀
@@johnnysweekends Like it did on cars too ! My issue of carb today is a champion 2200 power inverter generator. Brand new, ran twice for 15 minutes. Last ran over the summer. Gas had stabilizer, but drained it anyway. It starts with choke on and dies within a second. I keep pulling, nothing. I let it sit for a minute, pull starts up, then dies won't start. I tried pushing the choke back, no luck. no start, no running. The darn thing is brand new. I checked plug, clean as a new plug should be. Bought it one year ago, tested, ran it for 15 min, all was good, loved it put it away. I tested it during summer, all was good, put stabilizer in, put it away. Snow storm coming, no start. I really hate it :-) Please help !
If it runs with the choke on oh at high rpm then the small jet is plugged and you’ll need to pull the jet out and clean it.
You’ll instantly know if it’s the small jet if it runs with choke on or with eco off and some rpm because it will be on the main jet. You just have to get it running long enough.
It’s always the stupid jet and I feel stabil doesn’t work as good as it should. I have switched back to Lucas which I used for years and now I seem to have no issues.
I used stabil for several years and every year my lawn mower or weed eater wouldn’t start. So clean everything and good to go. Now with the Lucas stuff the last 3 years no issues with my lawn mower. It’s the last lawn care item I have that’s gas. When it dies or I find a smoking deal on a used ego it’s gone.
Trying to simplify my life not add more issues and maintenance 😂👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends I can't get to the jet. This is a different model. Not so easy access. It looks like the carb has to come off or I do not know what to do. I do not see anything like on your video. This is mine : Champion Power Equipment 100692 2000-Watt Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight - The side access allows you to change air filter and see the chose side. There is a small electronic actuator that controls the idle. If I pull on the choke lever - full choke - the engine starts and the throttle lever supposed to add "gas" and take over. Well it does for a few seconds but then snaps back to zero position and engine stalls. There is a throttle adjustment screw on that lever but won't help.
Yea don’t turn the screw but yea that model you have to pull the yellow side panel off with the two screws. Remove air box then the two bolts for the carb to get to the jet. You may only have to remove the air box and maybe slide the carb back a little to get to the jet. Just depends on the model.
Johnny, what do you hope to accomplish by speaking so fast??
It's very hard to follow you when you are speaking a mile per second!
SLOW DOWN!!
All of my newer videos I do speak slower.
I was trying to rush my videos so they were shorter. But one minute extra hardly makes a difference