XV Legion 'Thousand Sons': Origins & History (Warhammer 40K & Horus Heresy Lore)
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- Being a record of the scholar-warriors of Prospero, the scions of the Crimson King Magnus the Red, the XV Legion Astartes, Thousand Sons.
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The tragedy of the Thousand Sons is one of my favourite things in all of 40k.
"Things"??
God's amongst Astarte!
The Thousand Sons were really screwed no matter which side of the Heresy they came down on. The one case where MAYBE falling to Chaos really was the less terrible option.
@@AnIdiotsLantern, maybe.
Maybe it's been the only choice possible, if we suggest that a group of people has a collectively perceived equal to a survival instinct.
That's probably a question best left to the philosophers.
I grant you the favour to not report your words to my higher ups in the Ordo Haereticus.
Some day or never at all I might ask of you to return this favour, until then consider it a gift.
@@nixonsprguy3629 the God Emperor protects!
And, as the Apostle penitent Malechai has been enlighted through His visions of deliverance, He will walk again, ascended to His True Divinity as He reclaim his fallen sons from the false pantheon and subjugate the Empyrean as His sons on the material plane reclaim humanitys birthright with bolter and chainsword once more, led by His steward and heir practical, Robute Guilliman.
A Thousand Sons is one of my favorite books.
The problem is, the fall of Thousand Sons was never set in stone. Any number of factors could have prevented their fall. While I will not claim Magnus was faultless (he was quite reckless, if understandably given his inferiority complex and subsequent desire to prove himself), he DID have the best intentions in mind. Propero was probably the closest imperial realm to utopia, only rivaled in that regard by Ultramar. The Interex and Craftworld Aeldari demonstrate that civilizations of Psykers, possessed by knowledge of Chaos, could nonetheless be a stable society. Knowledge was not the enemy. Ultimately, if any of these groups had met the Thousand Sons before the tragedies that befell them and taught them restraint, then maybe tragedy would have been averted. If Magnus has stayed and delivered his message despite his blunder, perhaps the Emperor would not have delivered that fateful order, subsequently to be twisted by Horus. If Jaghatai Khan, Primarch of the similarly psychic White Scars, happened to be nearby to help temper his impetuous brother, maybe Magnus's recklessness would have been averted.
Alas, peace does not sell plastic miniatures, so we will never know.
Magnus did deliver his warming, Russ mentions it in Prospero Burns. And Horus never changed the orders, Russ gets them completely unchanged. Horus just sends one of his marines to convince Russ to kill Magnus, he doesn't change the orders.
Magnus was doomed the second he searched in the warp for the cure for the flesh change and ran into Tzeentch. Both he and his father are at fault. He should have known better, the Emperor should have told him.
Tzeentch wouldn't have had it any other way.
damn this just made me think, what if instead of horus's it was the thousand sons who made first contact with the interex
Fictional future space wars sells products but only peace can buy it
An hour of my favourite smooth irish voice accompanied by chants talking about one of my favourite Legions. Great day already!
Happy New Year Oculus ;)
Oculus is Canadian, just saying.
@@FaizanMunirKhanRajput really? I'm pretty sure I remember him confirming to be irish, but I wouldn't die on that hill to be honest^^
ps. found the tweet, he moved from Ireland to the US in 2013 and later on to Canada. My brain was right with the memory ;)
Dude…. This video series is showing its age the most.
I collect Iron Warriors (and listen to that video 1/month for lore/writing) and comparing the two I’m pretty jealous.
Nice Work!
I think the Pre Heresy Thousand Sons have one of the most beautiful Power Armor design, alongside the Emperor's Children and Luna Wolves.
I think the Ultramarine design also look very pretty. I also like the blue and white color scheme of the Warhound (12th legion) but they aren't the most clean bunch
@@axelNodvon2047 You have awesome points on that, Honorable Battle Brother. I agree.
TSons and Alpha Legion metallic schemes are things of pure beauty
M30: "We worship the sun." Astartes: "Die! In the name of the imperial truth!"
M40: "We worship the sun." Astartes: "No problem with that. But you have to refer to the sun as the embodiment of the god emperor okay?"
This is not true.
The Astartes in general do not think of The Emperor as a god.
They consider him their general. They do not in general pray to The Emperor
@@markrtoffeeman tell that to the black templars
@@markrtoffeeman that is because He, has not yet Ascended fully to take His Divine place in the Empyrean reclaim his fallen sons and purging the false pantheon from all planes of existance!
@@markrtoffeeman mostly true for first founded foundings, but when founding fell entirely to the hands of high lords which fully integrated ecclesiarchy you can expect how that will turn out, and also you have folk like black templars which for some chapters definitely made appealing reputation
@@RogueSanta The Black Templars are an exception though. They always have been (well, probably not back in the Rogue Trader days or something but you get what I mean). In the 41st/42nd millennium, you are much more likely to have your world saved by a space marine chapter that doesn't consider the Emperor a god than by one that does.
Not even changing the serious academic tone for "if I may offer some 'gallows humor'" is just freaking hilarious.
Fastest click in the west
Now, listen here son...
No 👏one👏cares👏
@@enigma9273 oh have a bit of fun why don't ya
@@fancyteef maybe a sense of humour while they're at it?
If he had just packed his ship, and flown over to Terra, we could've avoided a lot of stuff.
Yeah,and get shanked from behind by immensely paranoid Constantin Valdor.
*chuckles in Eisenstein*
Being a nerd, they're my favourite legion. If I could only get into the least of Prospero's libraries, not even the Emperor could drag me out of there!
Sounds like heresy!
In Irish Mythology, the Ríastrad was Cúchulainn's fierce and terrifying transformation, in which his flesh contorted and he became hideous and berserk, but physically unstoppable. Though he wasn't Berserk all the time, there was that one time he fixed a castle's wall to its main hall after he walked through it. The point is, Ríastrad roughly translates for us to "Warp Spasm."
Cúchulainn was the Soul Son and reincarnation of the finest high king of the Tuatha Dé Danann, Lugh Lámhada. While this figure fought for the spiritual destiny of all of Ireland's people, his race & Tribe pre-dated humans, and thus despite being the stuff of righteousness and masculinity, his essence was what caused the changes in Cúchulainn, for both his prodigious strength but also his horrific rage and form.
Check out: Sláine simon bisley warp spasm
The Táin is a lot deeper than that
ransa ga shinda
His tribe predated humans. Think about that.
@@golkor9879 I predate my own birth. Think about that. lol
My bois 🥺
My precious little space librarians 🥺
The Thousand Sons should have been made aware of the dangers of Chsos and trained in the defense against it. The Flesh Change could only be the result of Warp corruption. A Legion warded at the genetic level would not have succumbed.
That in effect would have given us Red Knights.
@@piotrd.4850 Even better. They would have been a loyalist Legion with a Primarch who needed not make a Faustina bargain with Tzeentch. Magnus didn't want to go traitor after all. Everything the pact with Tzeentch to the edict of Nike to the burning of Prospero made it inevitable, though.
@@UncleMikeDrop you make a deal with the literal Devil, of old Terra
You get burnt.
Literally.
@@markrtoffeeman Yrah. This is why Magnus at least, should have been warned about the Ruinous Powers. He was a Primarch who was also the 3rd most powerful psyker in the Imperium.
@@UncleMikeDrop or 2nd I don't think they their is a consensus on who is the second strongest.
Magnus did several things wrong, but doing whatever it took to save his genesons wasn’t one of them.
While most Primarchs did indeed care deeply for their legions, few loved them with such zeal and depth as Magnus the Red for his Thousand Sons.
Sadly that doomed them to a fate worse than death.
53:58 "the thousand sons were no magpie hoarders" .... but they will be when some of them become Blood Ravens
Loyalist Word Bearers
The Ninth Legion exiting the depths of the Neptunian Volume with the friends they made along the way is so wholesome
the real friends were the brains we ate along the way
I simply love the atmosphere you apply to WH40K , great writing and presentation.
Bloody splendid
To our humble educator, Oculus Imperia of the Logos Historica Verita, will their be a thousands sons tactics and structure next? Also, would you please do a video on our cousins of the XIII Ultramarines origins and history and tactics and structure at some point? Even though they have been memed to heck, I still think they are a cool legion/chapter.
I'm not telling you anything official, but I expect that he's going to do a tactics and structures video next, or next in this "serries", and that then he's going to do the Space Wolves. He saved those two legions to be part of the Burning of Prospero serries. Likewise, I think he's saving the Ultramarines and the Word Bearers for the Betrayal at Calth serries. I don't know when he intends to do Calth, but I'm pretty sure he has a plan for it.
Nah... this looks like more serious stuff. Stariting with Avenging Son himself.
Looking back, how happy was I when the lost and the damned came out. The 2nd book of chaos for 40k. And the 1000 sons actually had an army list. From all those years ago, fast forward to now, and my fav 40k lore channel has finally come to the 1000 sons. What a great moment in time.
Perfect time !
I am building a new Thousand Sons légion !!
Thank you very much Iterator !!
May the Emperor bless you and your work
I enjoyed that, and it was an hour well spent. Learned quite a bit, and I thought I knew The Thousand Sons quite well.
The Thousand Sons and their star-crossed Primarch are, by a wide margin, my favorite Legion! Consequently, I'm very glad to see you finally tackling them and their history.
In order to report this,
Oculus must have the inquisitor who tried to stop him locked away in the basement.
Not bad. Another inquisitor might give him a promotion.
I can hear Kryptmann asking, "Perhaps we can use them against the Tyranids?"
In much wisdom is much grief. For he who increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
“The Thousand Sons were no magpie hoarder of lore.”
I missed this the first time watching the video. Second time my wife was concerned by the snickering and chuckling coming from the room I was in.
Best line in this video. I hope others caught the reference. Well played Occulus, well played.
Can you explain it to me?
@@bentaylor809 Magpies are members of the Corvus family of birds, which includes crows and more importantly, ravens. Those birds are noted for their intelligence and in particular for picking up lots of bits and odds and ends for making their nests and for tools; in other words, being hoarders.
For a long time it has been hinted and alluded to the the Blood Ravens Chapter are descended from the Thousand Sons. They are noted for their strong desire for knowledge and in many Warhammer memes, for their tendency to collect all sorts of relics and equipment that shouldn’t belong to them. So like their name sake, they are intelligent and have a tendency to hoard things.
The line from Occulus seems to be a nod towards the Blood Ravens and their connections to the Thousand Sons.
@@patrickdhamilton thanks! I appreciate your time :)
Is it me, or is our boy getting more melancholic, even nihilistic in their quest to educate us poor, ignorant fools?
I'm sorry, but I still can't call the Thousand Sons, and Magnus, the villains. I still love them all, as much as I love the Ultramarines.
The Inquisition would like to know your location
@@smp1017 sitting in the Sanctum Imperialis, having a serious talk with Inquisitor Lord Terran, about whether an Ultramarines company should be dispatched to bring you to me, or a Minotaurs company.
@@RobouteGuilliman-M41 Send the Marines Malevelant...
@@RobouteGuilliman-M41 Lord Heir, may this Host Penitant formerly of the XVII bring the deviant to face your judgement?
@@SonsOfLorgar you may.
Magnus did nothing wrong, and Big E is a terrible father, PROVE ME WRONG!
The Emperor WAS a terrible father. But Magnus did a lot of things wrong. Breaking into the Webway, trusting random warp entities and partnering them with his marines in the form of the tutelaries without telling his father etc. etc.
@@kremlguard9544 hey the giant floating space octopus that talks like something out of 1984 said it was a good idea.
Not gonna argue on the Emperor making a lot of costly mistakes, that is pretty much evident (unless he has some Big Brain plan since you know, Emperor), but Magnus absolutely DID a lot wrong. He should have known better than to explore the warp for the Flesh change cure, not bothering to learn about the very creatures offering help. He should have also known better than to SHATTER THE WARDS TO THE THRONE ROOM. Literally just send an astropathic message or deliver it yourself you arrogant red prick...
@@risa123456789 awe come on! He just did the primarch equivalent of breaking a window…… into hell.
@@kremlguard9544 Wait wait what, I have heard nothing of these tutelaries. Where can I read about that?
For years I've seen and heard the whole "Magnus did nothing wrong" thing. That is just folly and wishful thinking at its worst. Poor Magnus. Brought down by his own hubris.
"by his own hubris" how is trying to be a good person hubris he fell because of the emperors hubris not his own
It all comes back to the Emperor, just like if you believe in a divine being having created everything all the flaws percieved in the everything comes back to the creator, but perhaps big E just work in mysterious ways eh?
It’s a short-hand for rebuffing people that blame Magnus for the fall of big Es plans. It’s 100% of the emperors fault in a ridiculous amount of ways by being a bad leader and father that Magnus causes the problems that messed things up.
In short…Magnus did nothing wrong.
@@bitharne It is nit just Magnus neither, big E treats all the primarcs the same, like babies and they are hundreds of years old, big E was a horrible leader and humanity payed the price.
Imagine being so wrong and so loud at the same time
I wonder if Leman Russ went into the Eye of Terror partly out of guilt for his dogged(pun intended) eagerness in the betrayal of Magnus. Might be he's looking for some way to restore his brother and the Emperor or he's attuning to his true nature as a warp-creature like Corax has done.
I'm not crying, there's just some dust in my eyes.....
Hey oculus, I know you’ve already done videos on power armor, but I was wondering if you planned to do a video on Terminator armor at some point. It’s what got me into 40K, space marines casually lumbering through torrents of gunfire, wielding miniguns with one arm, punching aliens with powerfists, like, terminator armor is just the damn coolest
58 minutes of heretical blasphemy to shit to. Thank you for your service to the Imperium.
I might suggest putting some fiber in your diet
@@Jpipooly >40K fanboys
>Able to know good dietary practices
Pick one
Unless if it's on the similar tiers around of Henry Cavill or Majorkill, they're mostly obnoxious LARPers with unfunny jokes repeated for a decade or so, if not for TTS or even questionably not-grimdark new lores, they'll never have new, remotely original and God-forbid, actually funny jokes and memes lol
Jeez you guys don't do jokes well
"You're not the only one cursed with knowledge..."
0:15 We are some of us, cursed with knowledge.... Aight Thanos!
I love the thousand sons there my favourite legion and faction in 40k. I've always thought that they should have been the most powerful legion but writers said no
Love your work so much!
Also 45:15 "kingson crim"
As he thinks of even thinking of the cursed cognitoform that is the ouroboris paradoxical, the Oculus feels his words slip away into a madness corrupting in its mere conception.
Magnus is a digrido master and superb warp crocilid wrangler and proud bike rider
My favourite legion on my birthday. Thank you Oculus ❤️🇨🇦
If I recall correctly Magnus got along best with Perturabo, due to their love and appreciation of information.
Perturabo and the Khan
@@SonsOfLorgar Such a weird combo. Besties with the most free spirited AND the most iron-handed.
@@randomcenturion7264 it was indeed quite the strange friendship
This was seriously good , i always love your legion videos 🤟
Question, do you OC think and or believe the" Thousand Sons " were supposed to hold the position of the "Grey Knights" ,but the Emperor after awhile said to Himself "meh"!! Due to that the problems of the "flesh change" that could have been removed became a serious problem. Do you think indirectly the supposed deal with the Chaos Gods were quietly kept above board?
im pretty sure thats true, the emperor even once offered magnus the chance to rejoin the imperium and he would be given an even better legion, wich was heavily implied to be the grey knights, but he refused because as the thousand sons couldnt be redeemed due to tzeench owning their souls or something magnus chose to stay traitor just to not abandon his marines
@@aguspuig6615 his sons those were his sons and he could not abandon them which is very sweet of Magnus
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle magnus was almost as empathic and loyal to his sons as Angron was to his chosen family on Numeria before the butchers nails.
@@aguspuig6615 A true father, unlike his creator.
My headcanon is that the Grey Knights are from Magnus' Geneseed cleansed of the Flesh Change mutation. Grey Knights being from Emperor's Geneseed sounds like "My OC is Perfect and Unbeatable" nonsense lol
YES. I was so looking forward to this legion
I feel obliged to insist that Magnus did nothing wrong.
Really enjoyed this one. Thousand Sons are such and interesting legion. Thanks and happy new year to you.
_They were no Magpies..._
You know, some of us aren't ready to give that up, no matter what GW thinks.
Great Video. Suprised how there were no mentions of Ahriman though.
The Kingson Crim he says.
Black Dragon "Look at them with their Flesh Change....lucky us , our gene seed is free of even the slightest mutation."
fastest click on Holly Terra
I still believe Magnus and the Thousand Sons did nothing wrong, although I will admit that Magnus did not do anything right either
As an older man, a high lord of Terra sits watching an opera in high gothic a far younger friend, an inquisition member, freshly minted but battle tested on more than one mission walks into his both "AH, yes young man sit a moment. He dismisses his aids as the sit back a moment and both form their thoughts the old man speaks. "Have you ever heard the tragedy of Horus Lupacau?" The young inquisition looks puzzled a moment and answers "no" candidly. "I thought not, it not a tale the inqiusitorious would tell."
I have to say I miss zegram's voice as Magnus
I quite adore the Thousand Sons. A Legion based off the twin themes culturally of ancient Egypt and Persia, with its motifs being sorcery and knowledge. And of course it's Terran roots in ancient Achaemenid lands which lending an eventual fate of tradegy, betrayal, and loss. Perhaps in the earliest days of human history the Emperor had been Zoroaster himself, to grant so many boons to the neophyte 15th Legion.
Cracked my screen hitting the “Like” button
Nice I wanted something to listen to before going to sleep
Hi there Oculus! Here's a non native English-speaker's advice non your videos: I love them all, but the narration is a bit to follow. May I suggest to make available the subtitles for the next videos on the channel? It will help a lot!
Well done, sir. Your videos are one of the things I look forward to most on TH-cam. I hope you get to make more videos in the years to come. Bless you.
"The Thousand Sons were no magpie hoarders of lore."- Me hearing that line, "Hmm yes, Blood Rave......stupid brain."
I really, truly hope we see a redemption and reforming of the shards, of the Crimson King. I want some non-heretical egyptian space wizards!
I disagree--not all wrongs need to be righted, and it would make the tragedy of the Burning less impactful. But, as someone who, like Oculus, loved the Alpha Legion and the Thousand Sons, and unlike Oculus, chose the latter as my legion, this video is a wonderful treat.
@@aearroyo talkin a lot of shit for someone within fireball range.
Not just Egypt but all of the cultures that utilized occult and archaic arts ,Persia Greece even India are part of their Legion culture🤔
Yes, Fury of Magnus confirms that all Shards are equal so there is hope
Good News! They exist, they're called the Blood Ravens! But, shhhh, it's so secret even they don't know it.
I've been binging your Astartes origins playlist and it has been such a treat to listen to how you have improved as a narrator over the years. Cool stuff man. :)
To grasp lightning is to wield the power of the god's, the Lord of lightning grasping thunderbolts in both hands, immolated by the power he wields, undying, unmoving.
I have been waiting a long time for this record. And I was not disappointed. Magnificent. Thank you :)
Ah, the Blood Rave... I mean, the Thousand Sons. My favorites!
Another most impressive record. These are always among the highlights of my day!
Magpie Hoarders, eh? The Blood Ravens would like to know your location.
I was thinking I haven't seen a video from your channel turns out TH-cam unsubed me
The great tradgedy of The 1,000 Sons is not that those with a vision for a better world were brought low by those who were jealous, ignorant and short-sighted. It is that those with a vision for a better world were gifted the power to make that world manifest but withheld from the use of that power.
From the moment the first son of Magnus conjured his first "familiar" in the form of the Tutelary, from the first moment Magnus grasped for the Flesh change cure, not caring where the help came from, their knowledge and power both were tainted and doomed to turn to dust.
Question: Who killed the most Xenos? (since the Heresy)
A) Imperial Guard
B) Imperial Navy
C) Adeptus Astartes
The answer to that is always the Guard. They're the first response, and often last since there's not enough Chapters to go around in a galaxy of millions of worlds, space stations, asteroid mining stations etc. Astartes also often come to break the spine of the enemy, leaving the Guard to sweep up the rest, i.e. the routing mass of enemy making the majority of their numbers. As for the fleets, their greatest kill count has to be Exterminatus, but however much this option is brought up, it is a matter of last resolve.
D: Kryptman and/or Yarrik.
This tragedy truly hits home,like some traitor legions. I don't understand why hasn't GW try to give them a redemption arc for them. Especially with all the primarchs POTENTIALLY returning . Well, the ones who are not dead lol. I know that's alot to ask for. BUT..
I really want him and his sons to be restored. Not to come back to the imperium, but At least in some way find redemption. If not for the emperor, at least for himself.
I would like to know when I'm going to die. It would help me make a clear timeline and set my expectations/make a bucket list.
It would drive me to complete my ambitions and ensure the prosperity of my progeny... A very strange thought.
Oh snap!! Many thanks for your diligent study on our behalves, noble Oculus. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
By the throne i love the way you write and speak occulus 🙂 so eloquent and engaging
"Hording magpies" >w>
methinks there's a blood raven somewheres
53:57 I see what you did there.
Magnus was a fool for thinking you could treat with Warp entities and not pay a cost.
The Emperor warned him of the differences of sorcery and psycharna.
Sorcery is making deals with warp entities.
The Emperor forbade.
Yeah. But the Emperor MADE the Thousand's Sons and Magnus to be the greatest (trans)human Psykers known apart from him. He KNEW what the risks were. He KNEW that Magnus was, as some like to call him, the Big Red Nerd. He KNEW knowledge and learning were among Magnus's defining personality traits. But he did not give them warning. He simply let them continue for a couple of centuries doing their thing and then suddenly turned around said "Stop doing the thing that I made you specifically to do." Of all the Primarch's who fell to Chaos, he bears the greatest greatest responsibility to Magnus. If he had bothered to take the time to explain himself (like had done for others like Constantin Valdor and Malcador) it might have been averted. But... he set Magnus up. Whether deliberately or by indifference, the Emperor bears the lion's share of the blame for Magnus's fall.
@@lsamaknight The Emperor did NOT create Magnus to treat with Warp entities
He created him to defeat them.
@@lsamaknight Okay. And what should the Emperor have done? How could he warn Magnus--who grew up believing demons to be "merely" familiars and the Warp to "merely" be an ocean to study--of the Warp's dangers?
"Son, these familiars of yours are dangerous demons, and their powers can harm you"?
"Son, these powers are dangerous and must be used with guarded caution"?
"Son, I alone know the true nature of things, and you most obey me"?
That's exactly what was said at the Council of Nikea. The first thing is exactly what was told of Magnus by Mortarian. The second by Leman Russ. It failed to convince Magnus, who brushed Mortarian off as ignorant and Leman as afraid of progress. The third Magnus himself brings up in his counterargument, and calls it folly.
It would have been no different for the Emperor. Magnus was doomed from the moment he landed on Prospero, and no amount of effort from the Emperor would have convinced Magnus otherwise. It is Magnus' nature, as you say, to be the Big Red Nerd who wants to learn. And Tzeentch hung Magnus with his own rope: The desire to know.
Magnus is inherently unsaveable. He cannot be redeemed because it is by his very nature and upbringing that he is damned. Magnus' piece is one that would always fall, without fail, and switch sides in the Great Game.
Magister amon, or Ben kingsley
How the buggery did Magnus not know about demons with his level of knowledge and psychic power? xD And if he did why did he not warn his sons about their pet demons that they don't seem to know are demons?
Imperial truth dictates there are no demons. Only phenomena awaiting scientific rationale.
@@ditmarvanbelle1061 The Imperial Truth wasn't what betrayed Magnus though. Magnus grew up on Prospero, where "demons" were just "familiars" and nothing to worry about it. He was defenseless against the machinations of Chaos long before he met the Emperor.
@@ditmarvanbelle1061 You don't have to call it a demon, I just find it hard to swallow the fact that he "wandered the great ocean" for so many years with his vast intellect and didn't see a warp entity.
@@blazednlovinit he did, however, he didn't connect the dots. And the warp entities of that era were not as visibly malicious as they become through the heresy.
Very jealous when my friends legion gets an hour long video and mine only get 10 minutes :D Great job! 😀
First things first I love you Oculus, never stop. That being said, at 45:14 you said "Kingsom Crim" I wouldn't normally point out something that small but it's really funny to me for some reason
My brain, excited to see another OI video
My body when watching it, This guy has a soothing voice time to sleep
One of these days I'll learn about the sons
Man. What if Magnus had come across Isha instead of Tzeench?
One word... Nurgle.
The thousand sons persevere in the Blood Ravens and we will watch them closely. The Wolves are always hungry and loyal.
You leave the Sanguinary Magpies OUT of this!
Another great video and this time about my favourite legion and primach. Keep up the fantastic work!
Do you think Magnus was made big and red and had those huge horns on his armor so he would look like the devil from "Legend" with Tom Cruise?
This channel is criminally underrated. You do amazing work my friend.
58 minutes! Yes. Please.
There are 1k likes! ;D
Nerdddddddd! Also great video
And so my farvorite of the original legions receive the attention of the Great Historitor.
45:14 All hail the Kingsom Krim!
"Magpie hoarder of lore"
*ANGRY BLOOD RAVEN NOISES*
XV Legio says what?
@@Deridus The Blood Ravens from the Dawn of War series are established to be rabid hoarders of lore & artifacts, to the point where they'll even steal from other imperials & space marine chapters,
Its earned them the nickname "Blood Magpies" among the fanbase, even their chapter name & banner looks like it was knicked from Blood Angels & Raven Guard.
(There's also a fair bit of evidence for them being a loyalist successor chapter of the Thousand Sons in some capacity.)
@@QuestionableObject Was mainly playing on the meme of the "Unknown Primarch" the Blood Raven keep chirping about. I'm one of the few 40k players I know that've actually read the book, "Dawn of War."
@@Deridus I had a total brain blank and the only part of your comment that registered was "what" lmao my bad
I've always wondered, we, the audience know that it was Horus who sent Leman Russ and the Space Wolves on the Thousand Sons under false pretenses to turn them traitor. Or at the very least neutralize a potentially troublesome Primarch and his legion. Magnus and the Thousand Sons weren't traitors. But in universe, does the Imperium know this? Do the Space Wolves know they were manipulated by Horus? Do they care if they know? From what I gather Magnus seems to know but doesn't care that the Space Wolves were under orders from Horus.
After the Burning of Prospero, Russ came to understand just how Horus had played him like a fiddle, and he was ashamed of having been fooled like that, but I don't think he ever fully understood Magnus' point of view.
Magnus on the other hand, knew what was going on, almost as soon as it happened, if not prior to the Burning of Prospero, then at the very least during it.
But it was only after it all happened, when he had, for lack of a better word, been "fractured" by these events, that he came to see the betrayal of Russ and the Emperor as being far greater than that of Horus, and therefor joined the forces of the Traitors just before the Siege of Terra. It was not out of ignorance that he did so, but out of desire for revenge.
@@Grubnar exactly…kind of absurd, to me, that people don’t seem to see how utterly negligent, disrespectful, and megalomaniacal the Emperor was on this.
Magnus, in short, is the epitome of denouncing your family for being shitty. I can’t stand people who have abusive family and defend them “because they’re family”…no cut them out. Magnus did just that and no Primarch has my respect more than him for that very thing. Righteous indignation is the purest of all emotion. Especially when it’s for big E and his arrogance.
These videos have made me want to start a HH Thousand sons force
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@45:13 Kingson Crim :'D
"Magnus was a dick" - Dan Abnett
Perfect timing, i needed something great after this workday
Great video and these Legion ones are my favorite. The amount of time and effort you put in shows.
Hell yeah I didn't want to do anything today anyways